WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.120 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:05.879 this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring 3 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:08.720 you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen 4 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.880 something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to 5 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.719 quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, 6 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.719 and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:24.000 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. 8 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.440 To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.120 just might change the way you see the woods forever. 10 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:32.280 So stay with us at big for Society. We've got 11 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.359 the privilege of talking to Marie Dumont from down there 12 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:39.280 in Florida, Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group. How's it going tonight? Marie? 13 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:41.600 Very good? How are you, Jeremiah. 14 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:43.880 I'm doing great. I'm excited to chat with you. I 15 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:45.640 don't get to talk to a lot of people from 16 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:50.159 Florida on the podcast, but can you tell us a 17 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:54.000 little bit about the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group? Marie? 18 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.280 Oh boy? Okay, so. 19 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:01.479 I well, first of all, you can find the Mid 20 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:05.680 Florida Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. 21 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:07.400 And I also have a website. 22 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.359 It's mid Florida, mid Florida bigfoot dot com and there 23 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:16.000 you can see you know, research gallery, photos, you know, 24 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:20.519 press and media. There's facts about Florida. There's bios for 25 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.560 our team members, so you can get to learn a 26 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.040 little bit more about us if you like. But anyway, 27 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:32.959 I started the group five years ago. I've always I've 28 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.840 always been into the paranormal. I've been a paranormal investigator 29 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.959 for over thirty years. And it started out with ghost 30 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.159 hunting UFOs and then I had some friends who were 31 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:47.879 very interested in Bigfoot. So I wasn't really too interested 32 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:49.719 at the time, but I was like, yeah, let me, 33 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:55.280 you know, let me check this out. So it's because 34 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.280 of that that I started to go out with them 35 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.760 and we would go to the O'calla National Forest and 36 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:07.680 look around. And what really did it for me was 37 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.639 I was on a camp out with my friends and 38 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.560 a bunch of probably about fifteen other people. We were 39 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.680 in the Ukalan National Forest and just a primitive, just 40 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:20.800 a spot we just picked, and about one thirty in 41 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:26.479 the morning, we heard this huge vocalization, just one long, 42 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:33.199 lengthy It would be classified probably like the classic Ohio 43 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:37.960 big Foot call. It was unbelievable. And all this happened 44 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.240 on the coldest night of the year when we were camping, 45 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.680 like I said, at one thirty in the morning, and 46 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.680 that's what solidified it for me. That's when I was like, 47 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.520 I've got to look into this. I want to be 48 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.120 the one to prove that they do exist in Florida, 49 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:56.759 bigfoots and scumcapes. 50 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:03.680 So that's how the journey began. Then I started going 51 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.000 on Facebook. 52 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:09.599 Trying to find a group, a Florida group that specialized 53 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:13.639 in just Florida research, and at the time, I couldn't 54 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:17.280 find anything. So that was when I decided to start 55 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:21.280 my own group. And you know, like I said, I've 56 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.280 had her for five years. I have over seven thousand 57 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:30.360 members now and it's just wonderful. It's a place where 58 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:37.199 Florida researchers and individuals can go there not be ridiculed. 59 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:41.840 They can share their stories, they can share their evidence, 60 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.479 You share their knowledge, because that's what this is about. 61 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:48.240 That's what it's supposed to be about, sharing knowledge with 62 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:51.439 each other because we all have something to learn from 63 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:52.080 one another. 64 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:58.240 So that's why I do it, and it's it's been wonderful. 65 00:03:58.719 --> 00:03:59.719 And I have my. 66 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:04.560 Own research team and there's four of us. It's me 67 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:09.680 and Mike Aular, Ruby, Joe Brew and Chris Hensley, and 68 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:15.680 we are very dedicated, very serious Bigfoot in skun Gape researchers. 69 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.839 We are out in the field in the swamps and 70 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:24.000 what's every single weekend and we have been for the 71 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.560 past five years, every single weekend, sometimes more than one 72 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.800 day of the weekend. So it's it's just been an 73 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.240 incredible journey and I'm just so grateful. 74 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:40.439 That's amazing. So every pretty much you said every weekend 75 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.399 of every weekend. Wow. Is this primarily an Okawa National 76 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.800 Forest or do you guys have kind of go around 77 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:48.000 to different areas. 78 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:49.759 We go to different areas. 79 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:56.680 We're mostly in central Florida, which I'm in Tampa, you know. 80 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.639 Mike is in an area called Wesley Chapel More, North Tampa. 81 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:03.519 So the places we go to are. 82 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.519 I've been to Thecla National Forest, like I said, but 83 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:14.959 typically we go to areas north of Tampa and Pascoe County. 84 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.439 We go to the Green Swamp, which is over by Lakeland. 85 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:22.319 We go outside of Tampa, which would be around Hillsboro 86 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:23.160 State Park. 87 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:30.160 Morris Bridge Road Highway three oh one, and so we 88 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:31.160 just kind of rotate. 89 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.480 You know, we have places that we have found be 90 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:42.240 interesting and some of the places are very interesting. 91 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:43.360 They never disappoint. 92 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.560 Every time we go out there, we will find something 93 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.199 very weird, and. 94 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:52.560 So we just kind of rotate. We rotate around to 95 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:53.680 these areas. 96 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:58.560 But we do have one particular active research area that 97 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.279 we've had now for over two years and you talk 98 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:07.959 about crazy activity. 99 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:09.480 It's been unbelievable. 100 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:18.560 And so, you know, probably maybe about ten places total 101 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.639 in our area. And then we'll go down to the 102 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.720 Everglades because David Chiley is an honorary team member. He's 103 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.959 a skun Gate expert, so he's found the Everglades. We'll 104 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.639 go down there and do research with him, or he'll 105 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.959 come up to Tampa and go researching with us. 106 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:41.879 So we work closely together with him as well. And so. 107 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.959 But we've also been to other places in South Florida, 108 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.759 depending on you know, if we're going to go on 109 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.560 a camp out investigation or around Jacksonville, which is where 110 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:59.959 we had incredible stuff happening there at Jennings State Forest 111 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:01.000 in February. 112 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:08.000 So Dave Sheeley is one of the individuals. I've always 113 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.560 wanted to meet him. I'm actually looking forward to meeting 114 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.439 him in Oakridge. I'm going to be out in Oakridge. 115 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:16.199 Yes, yes, it. 116 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.480 Should be a fun time. There's a lot of really 117 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.399 cool individuals that are going to be there. And yeah, 118 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:25.040 he is a person I have yet to meet. Oh, yeah, 119 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:26.199 it'll be a good time. 120 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:28.040 Yeah it is. You'll like him. 121 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:33.360 He's buried down to earth. Nice guy and we're going. 122 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:37.920 We're also going with him. Mike and I have been 123 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:43.879 asked to speak at the Meddling Falls Bigfoot Festival, which 124 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:48.800 is in Washington and that's on Father's Day weekend June fifteenth, 125 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.160 so that's for a month from now, so we'll be 126 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.720 going there and we'll be doing a presentation about bigfoots 127 00:07:55.759 --> 00:08:00.399 and skuncapes and flora. So if anybody is in that 128 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:05.399 area going to that festival, please, you know, attend our 129 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.279 presentation or if you see us walk around, stop by 130 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:14.120 say hi, introduce yourself and you know it's gonna be great. 131 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:16.360 I wish I was going to the Oregon one too. 132 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.399 Madeleine is one of those that always comes up as 133 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.959 a one that's really worth it to make the trip 134 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.120 out to. So that's pretty cool that you're able to 135 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:30.079 uh to get out there to speak for that. There's 136 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.799 there's something I've noticed that you've said a few times, 137 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.799 and I want to I want to hone in on 138 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.600 it just for a little bit because it's kind of 139 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:40.399 something that's always been in the back of my mind too. 140 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:46.399 About Florida. You've mentioned a few times the terms bigfoot 141 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:49.480 in skunk cape in the same sentence. But if they 142 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.039 are two different things, So I'm really curious about what 143 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:57.200 your your your thoughts are as to UH, is SKUNCP 144 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.240 bigfoot or is this two different creatures that we are 145 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.159 seen there in Florida. 146 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:09.919 Well, our team tends to believe that there are two 147 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:16.159 separate species of you know. We have the reason why 148 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:21.399 we believe that is the reports in different areas of 149 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.080 Florida are different. 150 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:27.080 So, say, for instance, Central Florida. 151 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:33.200 To North Florida, the reports are the typical bigfoots a 152 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.759 little smaller. They're usually six to nine feet tall, right, 153 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:43.080 and they are you know, more muscular, they're beefy, they're 154 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.399 you know, reddish brown hair, five toes and all that stuff. 155 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:55.240 But once you listen, when you hear reports and eyewitness fightings, 156 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.639 of what's down in South Florida what they've encountered. The 157 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.240 they're very different, and it seems to be a smaller 158 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:10.320 creature which is five the seven feet tall and very thin, 159 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.360 and it has four toes, not five. 160 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:21.440 Toes, four toes. That's interesting that that comes up in 161 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.720 different places as well. Yes, have you found that the 162 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.600 two one seems to be more aggressive? Is a skuncape 163 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.399 a more aggressive creature or the big foot in the 164 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.159 north of Florida more aggressive? Have you found anything like 165 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:37.159 that in reports? 166 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:42.639 Not that much, except that I would. 167 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.279 What I don't know how to say this skuncapes, You know, 168 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.480 there's the majority of them seem to be in the 169 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:58.200 Everglades area. The Everglades area is about three million acres, okay, 170 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:04.240 and so that's where it seems to be the biggest 171 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:12.240 population is. So everything in the Everglades is out to 172 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:17.399 kill you, Okay. So you've got Florida panthers, you've got 173 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:22.960 Burmese pythons, you've got other dangerous killer snakes, you have. 174 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:25.679 You know, you have. 175 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:30.399 Coyotes, You've got all these things, the alligators, crocodiles. You know, 176 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:35.399 it's very hard to you know, step into the swamps 177 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:40.480 and the everglades and not encounter something that's out to 178 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:47.200 get you. So that's why the skuncapes seem to be 179 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:50.120 a little more aggressive, probably because they have. 180 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.080 To be right. They have to be in order to 181 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.799 survive when you're dealing with. 182 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.639 All of those creatures, especially alligators and crocodiles and panthers, python, snakes. So, 183 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:09.200 you know, but we do believe that the skunk cake 184 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.759 could be a subspecies of bigfoots Now, there is a 185 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:21.159 what's it called it, there's a rule called Bergman's rules, 186 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:25.519 if you've ever heard of that before, that states that 187 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:32.840 the closer you get to the equator, the smaller animals 188 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:37.000 will be. So, for instance, deer deer and North Florida 189 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.399 are big, but you go down to. 190 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:43.120 Like the keys or whatever. We've got a key deer 191 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:44.600 which are tiny. 192 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:48.200 They're like the size of a dog, very small, but 193 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.080 they have to be in order to survive because of the. 194 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.240 Heat and humidity that is down there. 195 00:12:55.559 --> 00:13:00.320 You know, something big and bulky and huge cannot serve 196 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.360 with all the muscle and the hair and stuff. It's hot, 197 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:09.480 it's very humid, you know, the feel like temperatures can 198 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.480 be over one hundred and ten degrees down there, so 199 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:16.559 it's miserable. It's miserable here, it's more miserable down the Everglades. 200 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:21.799 So that's that's why there seems to be a difference 201 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:25.840 four toes versus five toes. Don't know, maybe there's been 202 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:30.240 some inner breeding along the way, some kind of defect, 203 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:37.519 geneic defit, or if you think about skunk apes, an ape, 204 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.639 they probably need longer toes in order to climb the 205 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.279 trees like in the Everglades, to get out of the water, 206 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.200 which is always. 207 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.159 A possibility as well. 208 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.159 So maybe that's why they got these long four toes. 209 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:55.000 But I'll show you right here. I have a it's 210 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.360 a copy of a cast that what if I part 211 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:02.360 time team members found down south. 212 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.960 Okay, I'll show it to you here if you can 213 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:06.879 see it. Can you see it? 214 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.679 Oh yeah, well see the cour toes. Yeah. Interesting. 215 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:18.279 Yeah, so it's pretty cool. But that's the kind of thing. 216 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.480 And this is a very narrow print as well, So 217 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:25.039 maybe they are that way because they have to climb trees, 218 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.159 and they need toes to be able to climb up 219 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:33.600 a tree, you know, a cypress tree or whatever in 220 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.679 the Everglades. When I was out there, with my team 221 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.080 a few years ago. We were walking down this dry 222 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:45.159 path where there's water on both sides. Right, it's the Everglades, 223 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:50.360 and I looked over the left. I look up in 224 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:56.399 the tree and it looks like a giant hammock about 225 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:00.879 ten feet long, maybe eight feet wide, made with thousands 226 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:06.080 of vines like they were all just like clumped together. 227 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.000 It would be the perfect. 228 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:12.960 Place for something to get up there and sleep, to 229 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:14.039 get up there and. 230 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:14.799 Get out of the water. 231 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.919 It was in the water, but it wasn't too far 232 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:22.320 off the dry path. It's the perfect spot. It looked 233 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.720 like a hammock, not saying that's what it is, but 234 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.679 it could be used whether it's a skunkgate or. 235 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:30.440 Maybe a panther. 236 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:35.720 A panther could jump up there and sleep to get 237 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.399 out of the water, you know, the watery conditions. 238 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.600 So you know, I think when most people think of 239 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:49.159 the skun cap, they probably think of the Mayaco photo. Yes, 240 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:53.200 and you know that kind of has an orangutang, Yes, 241 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.120 orangutan look to it. Have you found that in your 242 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:01.080 reports that there's sometimes characteristics reports that are close to 243 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:03.480 what orangutan would look like. 244 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:08.879 Yes, yes, absolutely, the majority of the Skunk Cape. Sightings 245 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:13.879 are of a reddish brown creature and if you look 246 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:18.519 at that picture of the you know, the Mayaka picture, 247 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.360 it is reddish, you know, in color, but it has 248 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.039 some white on its face and stuff like that. 249 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:30.360 But some people have said it kind of looks like amerangutang, 250 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.039 but orangutang's you know, don't get to be five to 251 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.320 seven feet tall, so we don't know what it is, 252 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:40.919 but it's pretty fascinating. 253 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:47.120 You mentioned the Green Swamp earlier, and that's a location 254 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:52.759 that is starting to come up in different bits of media. 255 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:59.240 I've noticed different videos on YouTube, documentaries, et cetera. Have 256 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:02.159 you experienced any things in that area? 257 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.519 Yeah, And what's really interesting, we've had some like paranormal 258 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:14.079 stuff happen out there really well bigfooting that's where the 259 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:20.160 majority of the stuff has been. So, you know, we've 260 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:26.160 found structures, we have found prints out there. Part time 261 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.440 team member of doctor Bill Hewitt and Bigfoot Dave Miller. 262 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:34.160 They were camping out there one night and. 263 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.519 Dave was in a tent and his head something but 264 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:44.599 large hands put their hands underneath his head and lifted 265 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:48.880 his head up in the tent to where he was 266 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:54.160 at an upright sitting position, and then it gently put 267 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:55.160 him back down. 268 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.400 That's not normal, that's not you know, pairs not going 269 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:00.960 to do that. 270 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:06.039 No, I mean, how do you explain giant hands lifting 271 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:08.119 his head through the tent? 272 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:13.599 You know, that's that's a whole new level of take 273 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:14.720 you out if I wanted to. 274 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:21.319 Absolutely, absolutely. But earlier in the day, they were hiking 275 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.240 and they found a grapefruit tree, a wild grapefruit tree, 276 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.519 and so they were like, oh cool. You know, they 277 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:31.559 picked a couple of the grapefruits and they stuck it 278 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:35.319 in the backpack, and then you know, when they were done, 279 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:38.119 they went to the camp and that night is when 280 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:43.119 this creature came to their camp site did what it 281 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:46.920 did with Dave, and then it also. 282 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.440 Opened up the coolers. 283 00:18:51.920 --> 00:19:00.519 It took out a stack of hamburgers, raw hamburgers, and 284 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.440 so you know, there's paper between the hamburg patties. There 285 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.759 was a trail of white square papers leading out of 286 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:12.519 the campgrounds. So it was eating hamburgers, throwing the paper 287 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:16.400 down ate the next burger while it's walking. It was 288 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:20.200 just throwing down the paper. I was eating the hamburgers. 289 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:21.880 Oh well, but. 290 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:28.559 They checked the backpack. It had taken the grapefruits. 291 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.839 It then zipped the backpack, took out the grapefruits, zipped the. 292 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:36.440 Backpack closed again. 293 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:43.440 So it saw them picking the grapefruits. It's probably his 294 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:48.599 favorite tree, its favorite fruit or whatever food item, and 295 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.200 he wanted it back. So he found them and got 296 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.160 the grape fruits pack. He ain't got hamburgers in the. 297 00:19:55.119 --> 00:20:00.440 Process, right, so extra extra bonus for him. Were there 298 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:05.240 any tracks found around the campsite. No, okay, wow, that's 299 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:05.960 really weird. 300 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.839 No, it's just hard, you know, it's just hard and 301 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.119 leaves and pining needles and stuff like that. 302 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:12.319 Very trumpacted. 303 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.920 It wasn't a loose you know, it wasn't loose such 304 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:16.880 straight or anything. 305 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:23.359 Has there been a time when you've been out researching 306 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:28.119 in the field and just things got very intense and 307 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.839 you're like, if I could get out of here, I 308 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:32.200 could get out of here. 309 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:36.799 I haven't. I have not. I have not. 310 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.960 But team member Mike, he's been hit with infrasound about 311 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:45.519 two or three times, so he has had that we 312 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.160 got to get out of here. We got to get 313 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:51.039 out of here, or he'll feel very physically ill, he'll 314 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:55.240 have to sit down, he'll throw up, and so he's 315 00:20:55.599 --> 00:21:01.279 he's experienced in forsound about three times. I'm total while 316 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:06.880 we've been out, I don't experience the fear. I don't 317 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:10.720 know if it's because of my paranormal background. I've seen 318 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.720 all kinds of strange things, so. 319 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:15.880 I don't know. 320 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:20.359 I'm just not that fearful. But I'm sure something walked. 321 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.680 If a bigfoot walked out in front of me, I'd 322 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:24.599 probably be a little. 323 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:25.559 Scared, but. 324 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:28.960 Most people would, yeah. 325 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.079 But also very fascinated. 326 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:35.480 Absolutely. What do you think that the closest that you've 327 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:38.240 been to a big foot Earth's gun Cape would be? 328 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.480 Okay, the closest would have been. 329 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:48.319 In February, my mo went camping at Jennings State Forest 330 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:54.480 and that's by Jacksonville. We went on a weekend camp 331 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:56.920 out there. We were meeting up with Mike fam a 332 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.480 lot from Shadow, a big red eye, a good friend 333 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.039 of ours, and he always comes down the floor and 334 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:04.359 in the wintertime and we. 335 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:05.519 Always go out with him. 336 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.880 So he picked Jennings because there's been reports there, and 337 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:11.960 I really didn't. 338 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:13.240 Know that much about the reports. 339 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:17.240 But we went there on a Friday, and when we 340 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:21.759 got there, it had rain, just lightly, not too much, 341 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:28.319 and we became friends with a couple of volunteers who 342 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.759 were doing like security. They were driving around the campground 343 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.400 and stuff like that, and so they took us out 344 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:37.759 at night. You're not supposed to go out at night, 345 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:42.240 but they took us out, and they took us to 346 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:46.519 this one interesting spot by the power lines, and so 347 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:48.920 we got out of the car and we're just like 348 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:50.880 looking around as pitch black. 349 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:52.599 You know, I have my little flashlight. 350 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:57.480 We weren't really prepared to go out exploring, but they 351 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:02.160 took us out here. So everybody was kind of like 352 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:08.000 standing around talking and there was a like a forest road. 353 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:09.400 It was all sand. 354 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:13.200 It had been tilled, so it was, you know, really 355 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:14.880 clumpy and stuff like that. 356 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:16.559 Yeah, it was probably. 357 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:19.920 Tilled, you know, two weeks prior or something like that. 358 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:26.279 And I had my flashlights. Saw one of the roads 359 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:31.079 was really dark and creepy looking, and of course that's 360 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.400 going to appeal to me. So I was like, screw it, 361 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:35.680 I'm just going to go take a walk down this 362 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.359 path and just see what I can find. You know, 363 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:43.079 it's sand, right, So I'm looking and I see what 364 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:47.839 looks like a footprint, and I'm like, hmm, and then 365 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:51.599 I'm looking for another one. I find another one and 366 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.799 I'm like, okay, this isn't sugar sand, so it's not 367 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.720 well defined, but it's enough that you can see the toast. 368 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:00.920 You could see toes. 369 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.279 And so I called the rest of the Mike and 370 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.200 Chris over. Ruby was with me, and I said, take 371 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.319 a look at this. I said, this looks like these 372 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:14.599 look like prince and this looks like a trackway, and 373 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:19.079 they're like, yeah, it does. And so we quickly did 374 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:23.480 a measurement. The prince were sixteen inches long and the 375 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:31.039 stride between the prince was fifty four inches. So that 376 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.519 was like, this is amazing, but it's pitch black. It's 377 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.440 like almost midnight. So we stuck a couple of sticks 378 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.319 on the ground so we could come back the next 379 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:45.480 morning and take a closer look at them. Right, so bye, 380 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.200 We put the sticks out, and then we'd leave and 381 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:50.079 we go back to our campground. 382 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:53.920 Now, Ruby and I were at one campground. 383 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.119 Mike and Chris we're at another campground next to us, 384 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.359 and then mike family lot was at the last campground where. 385 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:05.839 Ruby and I were at. Her and I were car camping. 386 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:11.480 We were parked probably fifteen eighteen feet away from each other, 387 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:14.400 so we gave each other plenty of privacy in room. 388 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:19.400 But we were sleeping in our cars. And one thing 389 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.960 about me is that whenever I go somewhere, I can 390 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.440 never sleep on the first night ever. 391 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.039 So here I am. I'm in my car. 392 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.759 But prior to that, for some reason, I asked Ruby 393 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:36.319 what time you get up in the morning. 394 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.799 I don't know why I asked or that, but I did, 395 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:39.599 and she. 396 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:42.039 Says, I'm around four thirty or five, and I'm like, what, 397 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:46.799 that's crazy. So anyway, so I'm in my car. Of 398 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.839 course I'm trying to sleep and I'm just like, I 399 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.519 can't and it's pitch black. I have shades on my 400 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.279 windows and everything. And then probably around four or five 401 00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:03.119