Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
Speaker 1: quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
Speaker 1: So stay with us at big for Society. We've got
Speaker 1: the privilege of talking to Marie Dumont from down there
Speaker 1: in Florida, Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group. How's it going tonight? Marie?
Speaker 2: Very good? How are you, Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm excited to chat with you. I
Speaker 1: don't get to talk to a lot of people from
Speaker 1: Florida on the podcast, but can you tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group? Marie?
Speaker 2: Oh boy? Okay, so.
Speaker 3: I well, first of all, you can find the Mid
Speaker 3: Florida Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
Speaker 2: And I also have a website.
Speaker 3: It's mid Florida, mid Florida bigfoot dot com and there
Speaker 3: you can see you know, research gallery, photos, you know,
Speaker 3: press and media. There's facts about Florida. There's bios for
Speaker 3: our team members, so you can get to learn a
Speaker 3: little bit more about us if you like. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I started the group five years ago. I've always I've
Speaker 3: always been into the paranormal. I've been a paranormal investigator
Speaker 3: for over thirty years. And it started out with ghost
Speaker 3: hunting UFOs and then I had some friends who were
Speaker 3: very interested in Bigfoot. So I wasn't really too interested
Speaker 3: at the time, but I was like, yeah, let me,
Speaker 3: you know, let me check this out. So it's because
Speaker 3: of that that I started to go out with them
Speaker 3: and we would go to the O'calla National Forest and
Speaker 3: look around. And what really did it for me was
Speaker 3: I was on a camp out with my friends and
Speaker 3: a bunch of probably about fifteen other people. We were
Speaker 3: in the Ukalan National Forest and just a primitive, just
Speaker 3: a spot we just picked, and about one thirty in
Speaker 3: the morning, we heard this huge vocalization, just one long,
Speaker 3: lengthy It would be classified probably like the classic Ohio
Speaker 3: big Foot call. It was unbelievable. And all this happened
Speaker 3: on the coldest night of the year when we were camping,
Speaker 3: like I said, at one thirty in the morning, and
Speaker 3: that's what solidified it for me. That's when I was like,
Speaker 3: I've got to look into this. I want to be
Speaker 3: the one to prove that they do exist in Florida,
Speaker 3: bigfoots and scumcapes.
Speaker 2: So that's how the journey began. Then I started going
Speaker 2: on Facebook.
Speaker 3: Trying to find a group, a Florida group that specialized
Speaker 3: in just Florida research, and at the time, I couldn't
Speaker 3: find anything. So that was when I decided to start
Speaker 3: my own group. And you know, like I said, I've
Speaker 3: had her for five years. I have over seven thousand
Speaker 3: members now and it's just wonderful. It's a place where
Speaker 3: Florida researchers and individuals can go there not be ridiculed.
Speaker 3: They can share their stories, they can share their evidence,
Speaker 3: You share their knowledge, because that's what this is about.
Speaker 3: That's what it's supposed to be about, sharing knowledge with
Speaker 3: each other because we all have something to learn from
Speaker 3: one another.
Speaker 2: So that's why I do it, and it's it's been wonderful.
Speaker 2: And I have my.
Speaker 3: Own research team and there's four of us. It's me
Speaker 3: and Mike Aular, Ruby, Joe Brew and Chris Hensley, and
Speaker 3: we are very dedicated, very serious Bigfoot in skun Gape researchers.
Speaker 3: We are out in the field in the swamps and
Speaker 3: what's every single weekend and we have been for the
Speaker 3: past five years, every single weekend, sometimes more than one
Speaker 3: day of the weekend. So it's it's just been an
Speaker 3: incredible journey and I'm just so grateful.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So every pretty much you said every weekend
Speaker 1: of every weekend. Wow. Is this primarily an Okawa National
Speaker 1: Forest or do you guys have kind of go around
Speaker 1: to different areas.
Speaker 2: We go to different areas.
Speaker 3: We're mostly in central Florida, which I'm in Tampa, you know.
Speaker 3: Mike is in an area called Wesley Chapel More, North Tampa.
Speaker 2: So the places we go to are.
Speaker 3: I've been to Thecla National Forest, like I said, but
Speaker 3: typically we go to areas north of Tampa and Pascoe County.
Speaker 3: We go to the Green Swamp, which is over by Lakeland.
Speaker 3: We go outside of Tampa, which would be around Hillsboro
Speaker 3: State Park.
Speaker 2: Morris Bridge Road Highway three oh one, and so we
Speaker 2: just kind of rotate.
Speaker 3: You know, we have places that we have found be
Speaker 3: interesting and some of the places are very interesting.
Speaker 2: They never disappoint.
Speaker 3: Every time we go out there, we will find something
Speaker 3: very weird, and.
Speaker 2: So we just kind of rotate. We rotate around to
Speaker 2: these areas.
Speaker 3: But we do have one particular active research area that
Speaker 3: we've had now for over two years and you talk
Speaker 3: about crazy activity.
Speaker 2: It's been unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, probably maybe about ten places total
Speaker 3: in our area. And then we'll go down to the
Speaker 3: Everglades because David Chiley is an honorary team member. He's
Speaker 3: a skun Gate expert, so he's found the Everglades. We'll
Speaker 3: go down there and do research with him, or he'll
Speaker 3: come up to Tampa and go researching with us.
Speaker 2: So we work closely together with him as well. And so.
Speaker 3: But we've also been to other places in South Florida,
Speaker 3: depending on you know, if we're going to go on
Speaker 3: a camp out investigation or around Jacksonville, which is where
Speaker 3: we had incredible stuff happening there at Jennings State Forest
Speaker 3: in February.
Speaker 1: So Dave Sheeley is one of the individuals. I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to meet him. I'm actually looking forward to meeting
Speaker 1: him in Oakridge. I'm going to be out in Oakridge.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it.
Speaker 1: Should be a fun time. There's a lot of really
Speaker 1: cool individuals that are going to be there. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he is a person I have yet to meet. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. You'll like him.
Speaker 3: He's buried down to earth. Nice guy and we're going.
Speaker 3: We're also going with him. Mike and I have been
Speaker 3: asked to speak at the Meddling Falls Bigfoot Festival, which
Speaker 3: is in Washington and that's on Father's Day weekend June fifteenth,
Speaker 3: so that's for a month from now, so we'll be
Speaker 3: going there and we'll be doing a presentation about bigfoots
Speaker 3: and skuncapes and flora. So if anybody is in that
Speaker 3: area going to that festival, please, you know, attend our
Speaker 3: presentation or if you see us walk around, stop by
Speaker 3: say hi, introduce yourself and you know it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: I wish I was going to the Oregon one too.
Speaker 1: Madeleine is one of those that always comes up as
Speaker 1: a one that's really worth it to make the trip
Speaker 1: out to. So that's pretty cool that you're able to
Speaker 1: uh to get out there to speak for that. There's
Speaker 1: there's something I've noticed that you've said a few times,
Speaker 1: and I want to I want to hone in on
Speaker 1: it just for a little bit because it's kind of
Speaker 1: something that's always been in the back of my mind too.
Speaker 1: About Florida. You've mentioned a few times the terms bigfoot
Speaker 1: in skunk cape in the same sentence. But if they
Speaker 1: are two different things, So I'm really curious about what
Speaker 1: your your your thoughts are as to UH, is SKUNCP
Speaker 1: bigfoot or is this two different creatures that we are
Speaker 1: seen there in Florida.
Speaker 3: Well, our team tends to believe that there are two
Speaker 3: separate species of you know. We have the reason why
Speaker 3: we believe that is the reports in different areas of
Speaker 3: Florida are different.
Speaker 2: So, say, for instance, Central Florida.
Speaker 3: To North Florida, the reports are the typical bigfoots a
Speaker 3: little smaller. They're usually six to nine feet tall, right,
Speaker 3: and they are you know, more muscular, they're beefy, they're
Speaker 3: you know, reddish brown hair, five toes and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: But once you listen, when you hear reports and eyewitness fightings,
Speaker 3: of what's down in South Florida what they've encountered. The
Speaker 3: they're very different, and it seems to be a smaller
Speaker 3: creature which is five the seven feet tall and very thin,
Speaker 3: and it has four toes, not five.
Speaker 1: Toes, four toes. That's interesting that that comes up in
Speaker 1: different places as well. Yes, have you found that the
Speaker 1: two one seems to be more aggressive? Is a skuncape
Speaker 1: a more aggressive creature or the big foot in the
Speaker 1: north of Florida more aggressive? Have you found anything like
Speaker 1: that in reports?
Speaker 2: Not that much, except that I would.
Speaker 3: What I don't know how to say this skuncapes, You know,
Speaker 3: there's the majority of them seem to be in the
Speaker 3: Everglades area. The Everglades area is about three million acres, okay,
Speaker 3: and so that's where it seems to be the biggest
Speaker 3: population is. So everything in the Everglades is out to
Speaker 3: kill you, Okay. So you've got Florida panthers, you've got
Speaker 3: Burmese pythons, you've got other dangerous killer snakes, you have.
Speaker 2: You know, you have.
Speaker 3: Coyotes, You've got all these things, the alligators, crocodiles. You know,
Speaker 3: it's very hard to you know, step into the swamps
Speaker 3: and the everglades and not encounter something that's out to
Speaker 3: get you. So that's why the skuncapes seem to be
Speaker 3: a little more aggressive, probably because they have.
Speaker 2: To be right. They have to be in order to
Speaker 2: survive when you're dealing with.
Speaker 3: All of those creatures, especially alligators and crocodiles and panthers, python, snakes. So,
Speaker 3: you know, but we do believe that the skunk cake
Speaker 3: could be a subspecies of bigfoots Now, there is a
Speaker 3: what's it called it, there's a rule called Bergman's rules,
Speaker 3: if you've ever heard of that before, that states that
Speaker 3: the closer you get to the equator, the smaller animals
Speaker 3: will be. So, for instance, deer deer and North Florida
Speaker 3: are big, but you go down to.
Speaker 2: Like the keys or whatever. We've got a key deer
Speaker 2: which are tiny.
Speaker 3: They're like the size of a dog, very small, but
Speaker 3: they have to be in order to survive because of the.
Speaker 2: Heat and humidity that is down there.
Speaker 3: You know, something big and bulky and huge cannot serve
Speaker 3: with all the muscle and the hair and stuff. It's hot,
Speaker 3: it's very humid, you know, the feel like temperatures can
Speaker 3: be over one hundred and ten degrees down there, so
Speaker 3: it's miserable. It's miserable here, it's more miserable down the Everglades.
Speaker 3: So that's that's why there seems to be a difference
Speaker 3: four toes versus five toes. Don't know, maybe there's been
Speaker 3: some inner breeding along the way, some kind of defect,
Speaker 3: geneic defit, or if you think about skunk apes, an ape,
Speaker 3: they probably need longer toes in order to climb the
Speaker 3: trees like in the Everglades, to get out of the water,
Speaker 3: which is always.
Speaker 2: A possibility as well.
Speaker 3: So maybe that's why they got these long four toes.
Speaker 3: But I'll show you right here. I have a it's
Speaker 3: a copy of a cast that what if I part
Speaker 3: time team members found down south.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll show it to you here if you can
Speaker 2: see it. Can you see it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well see the cour toes. Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's pretty cool. But that's the kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And this is a very narrow print as well, So
Speaker 3: maybe they are that way because they have to climb trees,
Speaker 3: and they need toes to be able to climb up
Speaker 3: a tree, you know, a cypress tree or whatever in
Speaker 3: the Everglades. When I was out there, with my team
Speaker 3: a few years ago. We were walking down this dry
Speaker 3: path where there's water on both sides. Right, it's the Everglades,
Speaker 3: and I looked over the left. I look up in
Speaker 3: the tree and it looks like a giant hammock about
Speaker 3: ten feet long, maybe eight feet wide, made with thousands
Speaker 3: of vines like they were all just like clumped together.
Speaker 2: It would be the perfect.
Speaker 3: Place for something to get up there and sleep, to
Speaker 3: get up there and.
Speaker 2: Get out of the water.
Speaker 3: It was in the water, but it wasn't too far
Speaker 3: off the dry path. It's the perfect spot. It looked
Speaker 3: like a hammock, not saying that's what it is, but
Speaker 3: it could be used whether it's a skunkgate or.
Speaker 2: Maybe a panther.
Speaker 3: A panther could jump up there and sleep to get
Speaker 3: out of the water, you know, the watery conditions.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think when most people think of
Speaker 1: the skun cap, they probably think of the Mayaco photo. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you know that kind of has an orangutang, Yes,
Speaker 1: orangutan look to it. Have you found that in your
Speaker 1: reports that there's sometimes characteristics reports that are close to
Speaker 1: what orangutan would look like.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely, the majority of the Skunk Cape. Sightings
Speaker 3: are of a reddish brown creature and if you look
Speaker 3: at that picture of the you know, the Mayaka picture,
Speaker 3: it is reddish, you know, in color, but it has
Speaker 3: some white on its face and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But some people have said it kind of looks like amerangutang,
Speaker 2: but orangutang's you know, don't get to be five to
Speaker 2: seven feet tall, so we don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty fascinating.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Green Swamp earlier, and that's a location
Speaker 1: that is starting to come up in different bits of media.
Speaker 1: I've noticed different videos on YouTube, documentaries, et cetera. Have
Speaker 1: you experienced any things in that area?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's really interesting, we've had some like paranormal
Speaker 3: stuff happen out there really well bigfooting that's where the
Speaker 3: majority of the stuff has been. So, you know, we've
Speaker 3: found structures, we have found prints out there. Part time
Speaker 3: team member of doctor Bill Hewitt and Bigfoot Dave Miller.
Speaker 2: They were camping out there one night and.
Speaker 3: Dave was in a tent and his head something but
Speaker 3: large hands put their hands underneath his head and lifted
Speaker 3: his head up in the tent to where he was
Speaker 3: at an upright sitting position, and then it gently put
Speaker 3: him back down.
Speaker 2: That's not normal, that's not you know, pairs not going
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, how do you explain giant hands lifting
Speaker 3: his head through the tent?
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a whole new level of take
Speaker 1: you out if I wanted to.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely. But earlier in the day, they were hiking
Speaker 3: and they found a grapefruit tree, a wild grapefruit tree,
Speaker 3: and so they were like, oh cool. You know, they
Speaker 3: picked a couple of the grapefruits and they stuck it
Speaker 3: in the backpack, and then you know, when they were done,
Speaker 3: they went to the camp and that night is when
Speaker 3: this creature came to their camp site did what it
Speaker 3: did with Dave, and then it also.
Speaker 2: Opened up the coolers.
Speaker 3: It took out a stack of hamburgers, raw hamburgers, and
Speaker 3: so you know, there's paper between the hamburg patties. There
Speaker 3: was a trail of white square papers leading out of
Speaker 3: the campgrounds. So it was eating hamburgers, throwing the paper
Speaker 3: down ate the next burger while it's walking. It was
Speaker 3: just throwing down the paper. I was eating the hamburgers.
Speaker 1: Oh well, but.
Speaker 2: They checked the backpack. It had taken the grapefruits.
Speaker 3: It then zipped the backpack, took out the grapefruits, zipped the.
Speaker 2: Backpack closed again.
Speaker 3: So it saw them picking the grapefruits. It's probably his
Speaker 3: favorite tree, its favorite fruit or whatever food item, and
Speaker 3: he wanted it back. So he found them and got
Speaker 3: the grape fruits pack. He ain't got hamburgers in the.
Speaker 1: Process, right, so extra extra bonus for him. Were there
Speaker 1: any tracks found around the campsite. No, okay, wow, that's
Speaker 1: really weird.
Speaker 3: No, it's just hard, you know, it's just hard and
Speaker 3: leaves and pining needles and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Very trumpacted.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a loose you know, it wasn't loose such
Speaker 3: straight or anything.
Speaker 1: Has there been a time when you've been out researching
Speaker 1: in the field and just things got very intense and
Speaker 1: you're like, if I could get out of here, I
Speaker 1: could get out of here.
Speaker 2: I haven't. I have not. I have not.
Speaker 3: But team member Mike, he's been hit with infrasound about
Speaker 3: two or three times, so he has had that we
Speaker 3: got to get out of here. We got to get
Speaker 3: out of here, or he'll feel very physically ill, he'll
Speaker 3: have to sit down, he'll throw up, and so he's
Speaker 3: he's experienced in forsound about three times. I'm total while
Speaker 3: we've been out, I don't experience the fear. I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's because of my paranormal background. I've seen
Speaker 3: all kinds of strange things, so.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just not that fearful. But I'm sure something walked.
Speaker 3: If a bigfoot walked out in front of me, I'd
Speaker 3: probably be a little.
Speaker 2: Scared, but.
Speaker 1: Most people would, yeah.
Speaker 2: But also very fascinated.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. What do you think that the closest that you've
Speaker 1: been to a big foot Earth's gun Cape would be?
Speaker 2: Okay, the closest would have been.
Speaker 3: In February, my mo went camping at Jennings State Forest
Speaker 3: and that's by Jacksonville. We went on a weekend camp
Speaker 3: out there. We were meeting up with Mike fam a
Speaker 3: lot from Shadow, a big red eye, a good friend
Speaker 3: of ours, and he always comes down the floor and
Speaker 3: in the wintertime and we.
Speaker 2: Always go out with him.
Speaker 3: So he picked Jennings because there's been reports there, and
Speaker 3: I really didn't.
Speaker 2: Know that much about the reports.
Speaker 3: But we went there on a Friday, and when we
Speaker 3: got there, it had rain, just lightly, not too much,
Speaker 3: and we became friends with a couple of volunteers who
Speaker 3: were doing like security. They were driving around the campground
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and so they took us out
Speaker 3: at night. You're not supposed to go out at night,
Speaker 3: but they took us out, and they took us to
Speaker 3: this one interesting spot by the power lines, and so
Speaker 3: we got out of the car and we're just like
Speaker 3: looking around as pitch black.
Speaker 2: You know, I have my little flashlight.
Speaker 3: We weren't really prepared to go out exploring, but they
Speaker 3: took us out here. So everybody was kind of like
Speaker 3: standing around talking and there was a like a forest road.
Speaker 2: It was all sand.
Speaker 3: It had been tilled, so it was, you know, really
Speaker 3: clumpy and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably.
Speaker 3: Tilled, you know, two weeks prior or something like that.
Speaker 3: And I had my flashlights. Saw one of the roads
Speaker 3: was really dark and creepy looking, and of course that's
Speaker 3: going to appeal to me. So I was like, screw it,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go take a walk down this
Speaker 3: path and just see what I can find. You know,
Speaker 3: it's sand, right, So I'm looking and I see what
Speaker 3: looks like a footprint, and I'm like, hmm, and then
Speaker 3: I'm looking for another one. I find another one and
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this isn't sugar sand, so it's not
Speaker 3: well defined, but it's enough that you can see the toast.
Speaker 2: You could see toes.
Speaker 3: And so I called the rest of the Mike and
Speaker 3: Chris over. Ruby was with me, and I said, take
Speaker 3: a look at this. I said, this looks like these
Speaker 3: look like prince and this looks like a trackway, and
Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, it does. And so we quickly did
Speaker 3: a measurement. The prince were sixteen inches long and the
Speaker 3: stride between the prince was fifty four inches. So that
Speaker 3: was like, this is amazing, but it's pitch black. It's
Speaker 3: like almost midnight. So we stuck a couple of sticks
Speaker 3: on the ground so we could come back the next
Speaker 3: morning and take a closer look at them. Right, so bye,
Speaker 3: We put the sticks out, and then we'd leave and
Speaker 3: we go back to our campground.
Speaker 2: Now, Ruby and I were at one campground.
Speaker 3: Mike and Chris we're at another campground next to us,
Speaker 3: and then mike family lot was at the last campground where.
Speaker 2: Ruby and I were at. Her and I were car camping.
Speaker 3: We were parked probably fifteen eighteen feet away from each other,
Speaker 3: so we gave each other plenty of privacy in room.
Speaker 3: But we were sleeping in our cars. And one thing
Speaker 3: about me is that whenever I go somewhere, I can
Speaker 3: never sleep on the first night ever.
Speaker 2: So here I am. I'm in my car.
Speaker 3: But prior to that, for some reason, I asked Ruby
Speaker 3: what time you get up in the morning.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I asked or that, but I did,
Speaker 2: and she.
Speaker 3: Says, I'm around four thirty or five, and I'm like, what,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. So anyway, so I'm in my car. Of
Speaker 3: course I'm trying to sleep and I'm just like, I
Speaker 3: can't and it's pitch black. I have shades on my
Speaker 3: windows and everything. And then probably around four or five
Speaker 3: in the morning, I hear something loud walking by Bailey.
Speaker 2: On the driver's side of my car.
Speaker 3: It's just boom boom, boom boom, and I'm like, is
Speaker 3: Ruby up? Why is she walking so loud? That doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense why she would be walking so loud. I
Speaker 3: just hear boom boom, boom boom, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just really weird. And then something bumped
Speaker 2: my car. I went, WHOA, like.
Speaker 3: That and I'm like, oh. I'm like, I'm still not
Speaker 3: believing it's anything weird. I'm still thinking it's Ruby, right,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, why is Ruby bumping into my car?
Speaker 2: Why is she getting that close to my car?
Speaker 3: It's like four or five in the morning, it's pitch
Speaker 3: black outside, and I was like, Wow, that's really weird.
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh, this is I'm not sure about this.
Speaker 3: So in the morning, when the light, when everything got light,
Speaker 3: I got out of my car, looked around, didn't see
Speaker 3: Ruby anywhere. I thought, okay, well, maybe she got up
Speaker 3: early and went for a hike. In the meantime, I
Speaker 3: walked down to where Mike and Chris were at their campsite.
Speaker 3: I wanted to eat breakfast, and so Mike comes out
Speaker 3: of his tent and he starts telling me about how
Speaker 3: he couldn't sleep at all that night either, and something
Speaker 3: bipedal and heavy walked around their tents and their campsite,
Speaker 3: and I was like, we had I had the same
Speaker 3: thing happened, The exact same thing happened, I said, but.
Speaker 2: It pushed my car, it bumped my car.
Speaker 3: So it was then that we're like, oh goodness, we
Speaker 3: have a bigfoot that's walking around, bumped my car, walked
Speaker 3: around Mike and Chris is tents. Chris didn't hear it
Speaker 3: because he was asleep. Amazing, amazing. So I go back
Speaker 3: to my campsite. Ruby gets out of her car and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, what are you doing? I said, did
Speaker 3: you just get up? She said, yeah, I just got up.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, so you didn't get up at
Speaker 3: four or five in the morning like you said. She's like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm just getting up now. And I'm like, it was
Speaker 3: definitely a big thing. So after breakfast, we got on
Speaker 3: the trucks. We went to where the trackway was and
Speaker 3: so we could get a better look at it.
Speaker 2: We brought casting material.
Speaker 3: We tried to cast two of the best ones we
Speaker 3: could find, but our mixture I think was too thick.
Speaker 3: I wish it was a little more watery where it
Speaker 3: would possibly pick up the toes better. But Mike has
Speaker 3: an iPhone and there is a app there called scan Verse,
Speaker 3: and you could do a three D scan of the prints,
Speaker 3: and so he did and it turned out amazing. You
Speaker 3: could definitely see the toes. It's cool because you can
Speaker 3: it's interactive, you can move it around, you can look
Speaker 3: at it from different angles, you can see how deep
Speaker 3: it was, and it was a deep The prints were deep.
Speaker 2: They were probably about three inches deep.
Speaker 3: And like I said, the stride was fifty four inches
Speaker 3: sixteen inch prince and they went for about a quarter
Speaker 3: of a mile and ended at a creek. So what
Speaker 3: an amazing weekend, amazing four hours? Right?
Speaker 1: That is wild? It was that was talked about in
Speaker 1: the Bigfoot Times.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, and that's on my wall back there.
Speaker 1: I can see it right, Yes, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yes, Bigfoot Times March twenty twenty four edition. We made
Speaker 3: the cover and because Daniel Perez reached out to me
Speaker 3: and he's like, who found the Prince, and I said
Speaker 3: I did, and he's like, I want to talk to you.
Speaker 3: And so he interviewed me and I sent him pictures
Speaker 3: and he put us on the cover of the March issue,
Speaker 3: which was a huge achievement for us. And it was
Speaker 3: quite an honor to be recognized in that way. And
Speaker 3: it's an unbelievable story. So much happened that one night,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So definitely, if listeners haven't heard of The Bigfoot Times
Speaker 1: and you like to nerd out about Bigfoot, you need
Speaker 1: to look that up and get a subscription to it.
Speaker 1: It's a print news letter that comes to you in
Speaker 1: the mail every month and talks about all the bigfoot
Speaker 1: stuff that you won't hear anywhere else. That's very cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the lais is the greatest news in the bigfoot community.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He does a great job with it.
Speaker 2: He does a great job.
Speaker 3: So yes, So that was That was the closest that
Speaker 3: I've really ever been to a bigfoot him outside my car.
Speaker 1: Which is awesome. Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty close.
Speaker 1: Like you can your car is actually sounds like it
Speaker 1: was jostled back and forth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was bumped from the back, It was bumped.
Speaker 2: On the back.
Speaker 1: Okay. Have you been back to that area since at
Speaker 1: that time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, not yet, probably next winter, just because it's getting
Speaker 3: too hot now and it's about for us three and
Speaker 3: a half hour drive to get there, and but this
Speaker 3: time of year it's not good for camping. It's just
Speaker 3: too buggy, it's too hot and miserable. But next winter
Speaker 3: we probably will.
Speaker 1: Okay. Have you heard of similar situations or sightings in
Speaker 1: that same area? Is that something you've looked into?
Speaker 3: Well, I I heard I heard a story or read
Speaker 3: about a story like a couple of weeks ago of
Speaker 3: somebody who went to.
Speaker 2: They knew about the.
Speaker 3: Area, and they said, what's common The common reports there
Speaker 3: are a creature that jumps over the roads.
Speaker 2: And hangs around the campgrounds.
Speaker 1: M jumps over the roads. That's a jump over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jumps over the roads and goes in the campgrounds.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know any of this beforehand. I found
Speaker 3: this out afterwards. So when I heard they go on
Speaker 3: the campgrounds, I'm like, oh, yeah, here, that's exactly what
Speaker 3: happened to us.
Speaker 2: So we were very lucky right place at the right time.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been able to talk to me guessing
Speaker 1: Iowa we call him d n R. Any any forestry
Speaker 1: workers or any any officials state park employees about about
Speaker 1: big fight activities? Has that ever come up? Or is
Speaker 1: a thing where.
Speaker 2: It's in that area or just in Florida?
Speaker 1: Just I guess in any of your any of your
Speaker 1: areas that you.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, We've befriended a park ranger and he's totally
Speaker 3: in the Bigfoot, which is awesome because you never think
Speaker 3: about park rangers being into that, you know. And so
Speaker 3: it was funny because Ruby and I were out doing
Speaker 3: an investigation over around where were we at Morris Bridge
Speaker 3: Road outside of Tampa, and I came back to Mike
Speaker 3: O was Chris came back to the car and there
Speaker 3: was a teeny tiny little bigfoot figurine that was left
Speaker 3: by my door handle on my window, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: What is this? And the truck pulls up.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, I saw your bigfoot stickers and I
Speaker 3: thought i'd leave your presence.
Speaker 2: So he was a park ranger. So then we started talking.
Speaker 3: We talked to him for like an hour and a half,
Speaker 3: sharing stories, things he's heard, things we've heard, just compared notes.
Speaker 3: Amazing stuff, absolutely amazing, and so we're good friends with
Speaker 3: him now, which is awesome. And some of the there's
Speaker 3: been reports around outside of Tampa in his area, and
Speaker 3: he's heard of three reports of a whitish grayish bigfoot's
Speaker 3: been seen, and so one of the reports is a
Speaker 3: lady in my group, and then another guy in my
Speaker 3: group came forward with a similar story. So I told
Speaker 3: the park ranger that, so now he knows there's four
Speaker 3: reports of a whitish grayish bigfoot that's been seen outside
Speaker 3: of Tampa in the swamps, and it's been most of
Speaker 3: the reports have been in a ditch off the side
Speaker 3: of the road, a very busy road, but it's been
Speaker 3: very early morning hours that they've been seeing. So it's
Speaker 3: fun to be friends with a park ranger guy who
Speaker 3: can get that information. I asked him, I said, what
Speaker 3: do you guys do with the information? If somebody tells
Speaker 3: you a bigfoot story or report, what do you do
Speaker 3: with it? Do you report it to your superiors or whatever?
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, we tell him, but nothing's ever
Speaker 3: done with you know, anything that said. But he himself,
Speaker 3: you know, keeps his stored up here because he's totally
Speaker 3: into all that. And and then you know, he'll tell
Speaker 3: me stuff that as it reported or as it.
Speaker 2: Happens or whatever. So that's a that's a good connection
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the kind of that's the kind of guy
Speaker 1: we all need to have. A reminds me of like
Speaker 1: John Hickinbottom from Salt Fork State Park. He's a naturalist
Speaker 1: up there, but he's also totally into bigfoot. He's a
Speaker 1: great guy. I know, he listens. Have you ever heard
Speaker 1: a report or an account from someone where if it
Speaker 1: happened to you, you would probably not be going back
Speaker 1: out into the field.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard all those kinds of stories before.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I I'm sure it's possible, you know, I mean, but
Speaker 3: I'm also not that fearful. So even though I've had
Speaker 3: other creepy, weird things happen, and when I was a
Speaker 3: paranormal investigator, you know, maybe I'm a little more immune
Speaker 3: to weird stuff. But again, I've never had one walk
Speaker 3: up to me. I'm hoping someday I'll see you one
Speaker 3: walk in front of me at least. But there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people are very fearful. Just the thought of
Speaker 3: bigfoot is scary to them, and then if they see anything,
Speaker 3: you know, they're just going to freak out.
Speaker 2: I'm not that way. I'm not that kind of person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good discussion to have because
Speaker 1: I know that I see that come up in other places.
Speaker 1: And do you think it's something that we need to
Speaker 1: be afraid of whatever this creature is, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: something else we should have, maybe a healthy respect.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we need to have a healthy respect,
Speaker 3: but we also have to protect ourselves. You know, we
Speaker 3: have to stay on alert because they're all creatures, right,
Speaker 3: we don't know what they're doing, what they're thinking, what
Speaker 3: they're thinking about us. You know, I'm sure they're scared
Speaker 3: of humans, right. You know, they know we kill animals.
Speaker 3: They know we tear down trees. You know, we're not
Speaker 3: a very pleasant species, and we're destroying their habitat.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And here in Florida there's development going up all over
Speaker 3: the place and there's places that you know, they they've
Speaker 3: become landlocked, Like there'll be a swamp and then they'll
Speaker 3: be housing communities all around the swamp. Right, So then
Speaker 3: the creatures in the swamp, you know, they just they
Speaker 3: live there. They can't go anywhere without being seen because
Speaker 3: they're developments houses everywhere.
Speaker 2: So we've really messed up to their habits at. Their
Speaker 2: food supplies have been affected, and it's just that good.
Speaker 2: So you know, these are big creatures.
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, you see an alligator, you're
Speaker 3: not You shouldn't go up to an alligator to try
Speaker 3: and pet it now, because most likely that thing is
Speaker 3: going to attack to you because it's gonna it's thinking
Speaker 3: that you're attacking him. So you just need to have
Speaker 3: a healthy respect for these animals, these creatures. Be on
Speaker 3: alert and protect yourself carry protection if you feel you
Speaker 3: need that. You know, it's just the best way to
Speaker 3: go about that.
Speaker 1: Have there been any reports of big foot or skunkate
Speaker 1: being seen in areas where it's developments because the developments
Speaker 1: were made just on the edge of a you know,
Speaker 1: swamp area or habitat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, our active research area is in one of those
Speaker 3: areas that's very land. You know, it's totally surrounded by development.
Speaker 3: So you have this big swamp and that's where we
Speaker 3: have a lot of activity going on. And when I
Speaker 3: say activity, you know, we you know, we have some
Speaker 3: stuff that we you know, we leave gifts, we leave toys,
Speaker 3: we leave experiments out there. You know, we just want
Speaker 3: to see what happens. We've had all kinds of crazy
Speaker 3: stuff happened.
Speaker 2: You know. One of the things is we brought a
Speaker 2: teddy bear.
Speaker 3: And the teddy bear had you know, normal stuffed animals
Speaker 3: have a white tag hanging off them, right, and it's
Speaker 3: impossible to tear it off. You normally have to use
Speaker 3: scissors to do it. And so when we put that
Speaker 3: out for the first time a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: we put it out. We'll go back to the area
Speaker 3: like once a month, every four to six weeks, we
Speaker 3: just see what's new, what's going on. The teddy bear
Speaker 3: has been moved. We're flanging on the ground. Face first,
Speaker 3: the tag was ripped off the teddy bear and then
Speaker 3: ripped in half. So it did two things, ripped it
Speaker 3: off and then ripped the tag in half.
Speaker 2: You know how hard it is to rip one.
Speaker 3: Of those tags off a stuffed animal and then try
Speaker 3: to rip it in half.
Speaker 2: It's very, very very difficult. But that's what happened.
Speaker 3: So every single time we go out there, we'll still
Speaker 3: put the teddy bear. We put the teddy Bear facing out,
Speaker 3: We'll put it up against a big vipress tree. We'll
Speaker 3: just kind of like wedget down there, and every single
Speaker 3: time we go out there check on it.
Speaker 2: Four weeks later. It's always turned around. It's always moved
Speaker 2: and turned around, so its face is up against the tree,
Speaker 2: kind of like it doesn't like it.
Speaker 3: It's like a little game that we play. We fix
Speaker 3: it and it changes it every single time. Now people
Speaker 3: are like, well, do you put trail cams out there,
Speaker 3: which we all know if you're a bigfoot researcher, we
Speaker 3: know that trail camps do not work, and sure enough,
Speaker 3: the moment I put out trail cams, all activity stopped,
Speaker 3: everything absolutely stopped. And then we're like, this is ridiculous,
Speaker 3: we can't do this, So we remove the trail cams.
Speaker 3: Now everything's back to normal. We get activity all the time.
Speaker 3: We have found prints out there. We had a chicken
Speaker 3: egg shell left on top of a Cyprus knee.
Speaker 2: Crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: Sticks shoved in the ground at thirty degree angles, three
Speaker 3: sticks laid parallel next to each other.
Speaker 2: On the ground across the stick. We've had big sticks
Speaker 2: that have been bent around trees and secured. That's not normal.
Speaker 3: Treefall branches don't do that when they fall straight down.
Speaker 3: They don't bend themselves and ledge themselves very tightly around
Speaker 3: other trees. Just insane stuff, Absolutely insane stuff.
Speaker 1: That's some really weird stuff happening in that area. And
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the you know, when you talk about gifting,
Speaker 1: you know, I've talked to a lot of researchers about that,
Speaker 1: but you mentioned doing like experiments, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: a new a new thought to have for me. Is
Speaker 1: that is that like what you did with a teddy
Speaker 1: bear or does that involve other things you were doing
Speaker 1: when you talk about experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Teddy Bear is one of them.
Speaker 3: Another thing is I brought up some rocks and I
Speaker 3: put them in a circle and I had a blue
Speaker 3: rock in the center of it.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if they would.
Speaker 3: Stack them, because stacking rocks seems to be a northern thing,
Speaker 3: Like some researchers in Minnesota, even maybe in the Pacific
Speaker 3: Northwest will find the stacks of rocks and these streams and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're thinking of the same guy in Minnesota. Yeah right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like Randy.
Speaker 2: So I put the rocks.
Speaker 3: Now, this is going to sound really weird, but we
Speaker 3: don't have that many rocks in Florida. Okay, all right,
Speaker 3: it's shells, it's you know, just stuck. We don't have
Speaker 3: these nice river rocks that you'll find in a stream
Speaker 3: up north from the Pacific north West or even in
Speaker 3: the Carolinas. So but I had some and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the heck? I put them out. I want to
Speaker 3: see if they stack them. They've never done anything with
Speaker 3: the rocks. I also put out an experiment. Somebody had
Speaker 3: recommended this. As I'm painted, I took these paint sticks,
Speaker 3: painted them like three of them red. I painted three
Speaker 3: of them yellow and three of them green. So I
Speaker 3: laid out three of the yellows and I put a
Speaker 3: food item on top of that, and then I just
Speaker 3: piled up the stick next to it. I want to
Speaker 3: see if it's going to copy what I did. And
Speaker 3: that's a new thing that I've done. I've tried so far,
Speaker 3: nothing has happened. Sticks have been moved a little bit,
Speaker 3: but not substantial, not enough to say, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 3: is really interesting.
Speaker 2: But we're just trying these different little experiments just to
Speaker 2: see what they do, if they'll do.
Speaker 3: Anything, you know, we don't know it's worth trying, right,
Speaker 3: So it's all fascinating. But the Teddy Bear is the
Speaker 3: biggest experiment and it's the most fascinating one.
Speaker 2: It's fun. It's like a game. Like I said, it's like.
Speaker 3: We turn we correct it, it turns it around.
Speaker 2: We correct it, it turns it around.
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: Are you.
Speaker 1: Do you keep your Facebook group up to date with
Speaker 1: the things that happened from your experiments.
Speaker 3: Or oh, well I did with the teddy Bear.
Speaker 2: I posted that on I think Monday. I did even like.
Speaker 3: A side by side of comparison just to show you
Speaker 3: that this is what it looked like three weeks ago
Speaker 3: when we put it out. This is what it looked
Speaker 3: like when we went out there. And we also have
Speaker 3: done like some videos on YouTube about it, and I'm going.
Speaker 2: To keep track of it more.
Speaker 3: We have a app that Chris created for us that
Speaker 3: allows us to dot to track to capture document everything
Speaker 3: that we find in the location where we found it,
Speaker 3: so that you know, we.
Speaker 2: Could put it on a map.
Speaker 3: We can see what areas are more active certain times
Speaker 3: of the year.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have our own like database.
Speaker 3: Right where we're you know, documenting, documenting if we find
Speaker 3: a print, if we find a structure, if we hear
Speaker 3: a sound, a knock, whatever. So we have our own
Speaker 3: little database where we're just even dragon all this stuff
Speaker 3: for future reference. Like I said, so we did identify
Speaker 3: what places are hot certain times of the year.
Speaker 1: So that's that's great that you you are doing it.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you probably have data from a lot
Speaker 1: of different parts of Florida. Yes, since you guys are
Speaker 1: you know, going to multiple different places. But have you
Speaker 1: ever thought or what is your thought as to what
Speaker 1: Bigfoot actually is? I know there's there's many different viewpoints
Speaker 1: in the community about what we are dealing with.
Speaker 3: Obviously, ah, you know, a primate creature, I truly flesh
Speaker 3: and blood. But I really think that they have special
Speaker 3: abilities that we would consider to be paranormal. Does that
Speaker 3: make sense, Okay, So let's say the ability to cloak
Speaker 3: for humans that would be supernatural, the ability to disappear. Right, So,
Speaker 3: there's orbs associated with bigfoot sightings. You know, we've had
Speaker 3: EVPs happen while we've been you know, out big footing.
Speaker 2: But I so maybe it's possible. You know, just think
Speaker 2: of chameleons.
Speaker 3: You know, if you would have told somebody two hundred
Speaker 3: years ago, yeah, there's a million that if it stands
Speaker 3: on a blue piece of paper, it'll turn blue, they
Speaker 3: would think you're crazy, right, But look at chameleons. They
Speaker 3: have their masters of camouflage. Whatever they stand on, their
Speaker 3: skin will change the color to match it. So bigfoots
Speaker 3: could very well have something like that.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about. I think there's also some
Speaker 1: octopus that are able to do that as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, they'll change their skin color to match the rocks,
Speaker 3: the coral that they're on.
Speaker 1: I mean to imagine a creature the size of a
Speaker 1: bigfoot having the ability to maybe kind of be like
Speaker 1: a chameleon in a sort of way. That's that's even
Speaker 1: more frightening to me. I mean, a massive animal that
Speaker 1: could just blend into anything. Yeah, it's pretty wild to
Speaker 1: think about. But I don't it's not out of the question.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything's.
Speaker 2: Out the question.
Speaker 3: Anything's possible. Maybe they can turn a certain way in
Speaker 3: their hair and make it look like they disappear, you know,
Speaker 3: like a gilli suit or something.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I do believe they do have
Speaker 3: special abilities that, like I said, we would consider paranormal.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Have you have you done any research outside of
Speaker 1: Florida or are you just sticking inside the state so far.
Speaker 2: I'll research wherever I go.
Speaker 3: So I did some research in Utah when I went
Speaker 3: to Phenomicon, the Phenomicon conference over in Vernal, Utah, and
Speaker 3: I met up with a bigfoot researcher there, and he
Speaker 3: took us out into the forests outside of Vernal and Yeah,
Speaker 3: sure enough, I found a tepee structure. Amazing, amazing, And
Speaker 3: it was so crazy that we were driving down the
Speaker 3: road and I saw I was looking at some bushes
Speaker 3: and I was looking through the bushes and I saw
Speaker 3: some stick, some clusters, and I said, stop the car,
Speaker 3: stop the car, and they're like what I said, I
Speaker 3: need to go over here and take a look. I
Speaker 3: get out of the car, go take the look behind
Speaker 3: the bushes. Sure enough, there's a tepee structure. And it
Speaker 3: was just incredible. So I found a tepee structure and
Speaker 3: one area that had a lot of arches. Didn't see
Speaker 3: any prints, but the tepee structure was the coolest thing
Speaker 3: that I found over there in Utah. And I'm hoping
Speaker 3: to go again and go back in the woods over
Speaker 3: there and take a look around a little bit more so.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I'm in Tennessee, I'll go. You know,
Speaker 3: I'll take whatever time I can get to go exploring.
Speaker 2: I'll go out on my own. I'll drive around, or
Speaker 2: I'll just get out of the car and just start walking.
Speaker 1: Is Vernal out by? Is that by the you went
Speaker 1: to Basin it.
Speaker 2: All Skillwalker Ranches?
Speaker 1: Okay? I had. I was like, I have a feeling
Speaker 1: it's close. Wow, that's really interesting. I know those guys
Speaker 1: are all involved with phenomenon, at least they have been
Speaker 1: in the last year. Or two. But were you able
Speaker 1: to go out in that area at all or to
Speaker 1: go to the ranch?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: No, I wish you can't just walk on? Yeah, who
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to go Skinwalker Ranch?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would be to the gate. Yeah, I've been to
Speaker 2: the gate. Okay, I've been to the gate.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, I don't know that. That freaks me out
Speaker 1: with the whole U Thomas Winterton, the stuff he went
Speaker 1: through with it. Yes, he had some serious cranial things
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I had. I walked up.
Speaker 3: The reason why I got to go to the gate
Speaker 3: was I was on I took a I paid for
Speaker 3: a tour perimeter tour of Skinwalker Ranch, where you drive
Speaker 3: around the bus with some of the cast members from
Speaker 3: the show. So I had Dragon on my bus at
Speaker 3: one point, and then I had Thomas. And Dragon is
Speaker 3: hilarious on the show. He's all tough and looks mean
Speaker 3: and stuff, but he's the funniest guy on all the
Speaker 3: team and he's a coot. He's hilarious and Thomas is
Speaker 3: wonderful too, So they switched off, so we got to
Speaker 3: hang around and go around with both. But part of
Speaker 3: the thing is they park they allow you to walk
Speaker 3: up to the gate. That's as far as you can get.
Speaker 3: And then doctor Travis Taylor met us at the gate
Speaker 3: on the other side. He pulled up in the Red
Speaker 3: Cheap and so he was talking to us through the
Speaker 3: gates and yeah, which was which was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love I love it there. I love Vernal.
Speaker 2: But the forest is wonderful. Lots of sasquatch reports.
Speaker 3: There absolutely in the woods, the forests outside of Bernal,
Speaker 3: lots of sasquatch reports.
Speaker 1: How far aways are those forests and woods from the
Speaker 1: ranch area, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would probably get about maybe twenty miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, I just I just love And this is
Speaker 1: where it's the end of the show where we're kind
Speaker 1: of rabbit trailing and it's all right because it's a
Speaker 1: locker ranch. But I love the old story about how
Speaker 1: they see the portal open up and the big foot
Speaker 1: type creature comes out of the portal on Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1: Says that's one of my favorite anecdotal stories. And I mean,
Speaker 1: you can only imagine and hope that there would be
Speaker 1: more bigfoot stories at some point on that property. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but hey, if anyone listening knows, let
Speaker 1: me know.
Speaker 3: I think they actually one of the guys, he's one
Speaker 3: of the ute.
Speaker 2: Deputies, the first guys. I think he even captured a
Speaker 2: vocalization out there of a bigfoot, so a sasquatch. So
Speaker 2: it's fascinating.
Speaker 3: But and when we go to Medaaling Falls, we're going
Speaker 3: to be spending a week there, so we're going we're
Speaker 3: going to be going out in the woods every single day.
Speaker 3: We have some researchers who want to meet up with
Speaker 3: us and take us out, which is awesome because we
Speaker 3: know nothing about the area.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, hopefully you got some some
Speaker 1: local researchers. It's it's going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: different than Florida for sure.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, it's going to kill us because we're used
Speaker 3: to flat land, not mountains. But it's going to be
Speaker 3: a wonderful time and we're hoping. We already have plans
Speaker 3: to meet up with a few researchers who want to
Speaker 3: take us out or they want to meet us for
Speaker 3: lunch or dinners, so it'll be great.
Speaker 2: It'll be really awesome.
Speaker 1: That's very cool, Maria. I want to say thank you
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