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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Raise by Jina's Discussion. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>of the craziness that's been going on surrounding the Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>and producer and star of our documentary Is a Clockwork

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<v Speaker 2>with us about the strangeness around the Charlie Kirk assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Widner, welcome back to the show. It's good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, It's good to be here writer. How's it gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going well. We got a lot of craziness going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And really where I wanted to start this is back

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two with this suspicious death of Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Leedy in Pennsylvania, where Mark Leady worked as an oriel

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<v Speaker 2>driller and they would use this very powerful explosive material

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<v Speaker 2>called pet in, and Candice was the one that discovered this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know if she did or if her

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<v Speaker 2>followers did, but this is where I heard it. I

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<v Speaker 2>heard it from her, but it makes sense to me anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Leedy, this guy ends up dying from an explosion

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<v Speaker 2>from burning some papers at his house in a barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>The barrel exposed, the show upnol goes everywhere, and it

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<v Speaker 2>hits his neck and kills him. His family is really

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<v Speaker 2>shaken up. They don't really necessarily believe the official story.

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<v Speaker 2>They believe that there's more to it. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>where it gets weird because before his death, Mark Leady

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<v Speaker 2>had taken some pet in explosives from his job. He

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<v Speaker 2>stole some of the pet in and he had only

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<v Speaker 2>told one person that he had done this, and that

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<v Speaker 2>person was his best friend from high school. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>fast forward to twenty twenty four to the Butler, Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>assassination attempt on Trump. So a man and his family

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<v Speaker 2>bought tickets, bought regular tickets to the Trump Butler rally,

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<v Speaker 2>just general admission tickets, and to their surprise, once they entered,

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<v Speaker 2>a lady approached them and asked them if they would

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<v Speaker 2>like front row seats. They were super excited about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The family gets out escorted to the front row of

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump rally. I mean, how many times has that

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<v Speaker 2>really happened? Jay? How many times do you walk into

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<v Speaker 2>an event that you bought general admission tickets for and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're asked if you want to be front row?

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<v Speaker 2>That really only happens in you know, a dream scenario

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<v Speaker 2>or it happens in the movies, right, you get upgraded

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<v Speaker 2>to the front row seats at the event. Now, this man,

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<v Speaker 2>his name was coreytor Yeah, and this was the only

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<v Speaker 2>person that was shot and killed that day by the

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<v Speaker 2>would be assassin Thomas Crooks at the Trump rally right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was the best friend of Mark Leady that

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<v Speaker 2>he told his secret to about stealing the pet and

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<v Speaker 2>explosives from his job.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty damning.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to think of it, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>it gets even more crazier because sixty six stay later, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli government packed thousands of pagers and walkie talkies

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<v Speaker 2>with guess what pet and explosives that explos exploded simultaneously

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<v Speaker 2>across Lebanon and Syria, that injured I believe around fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people and killed forty two people and injured around

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand civilians.

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<v Speaker 1>Then net Yahoo gave Trump a golden pager think about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and he wasn't even president when that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, So that is very strange because you actually

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<v Speaker 1>found a link in a way between the Trump assassination

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<v Speaker 1>and the Charlie Kirk assassination. You think about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the factory in Tennessee that makes those things, those

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<v Speaker 1>pagers that it blew up, you killed like what seven

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<v Speaker 1>people something like that a few weeks after the Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk assassination. Yeah, it's like, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really stuck here in the Charlie Kirk, although I'm

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<v Speaker 1>leaning one way now more, but you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>two choices with it. Forget Tyler Robinson, he didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alex Jones was on Jesse on fire. Jesse on

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<v Speaker 1>Fire was on Alex Jones, and Alex Jones said to

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse that just days after Charlie Kirk got it, he's

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<v Speaker 1>being told by high ups in the military that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a squib, which is initially what I thought, because

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<v Speaker 1>the shirt goes up, you know, just like a squib

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<v Speaker 1>lit although you would normally in a boovie or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you take the shirt down so it doesn't fly all around. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a squib, it was an amateur working.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to do, and I got put

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<v Speaker 1>on put in wrong, and that's why it didn't work right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so or it was the Roadmike. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>explosive pt etn in it and and that was malfunctioned. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever put that in it could be like Candae so

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<v Speaker 1>that Charlie was leaned over a little bit. I caused

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<v Speaker 1>it to go this way out the neck like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be because again I mean in movies, when

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<v Speaker 1>you use a squib, you do seven or eight takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like you're doing one take, so

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be off and you have to do it again,

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<v Speaker 1>change your shirt and put the new one on, and

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<v Speaker 1>try it until you got looking good. So when you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing like Charlie and you only got one chance. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that it is faked. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's faked is because if it was faked,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Kirk would have contacted Candace by now and told

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<v Speaker 1>him told her to cool it, because she's blown apart

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<v Speaker 1>the whole organization right.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much ruined the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's ruined, and of course all the people on

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<v Speaker 1>the right are all mad at Candace for doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>But Canna is just trying to find the truth about

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<v Speaker 1>her friend. I mean, you can't blame her. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>at Tpusair acting so damn weird that, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't look into it the way they act. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I thought it was faked, because I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 1>at these guys going, yeah, these are just a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of nerds. I don't think they could kill anybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>I still, to a large degree think that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm leaning more towards the road microphone exploding and

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<v Speaker 1>fading away, especially the plastic and the glasses on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor of the car. Where's the blood though in the

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<v Speaker 1>car we got the pictures of seeing it all. How

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<v Speaker 1>could it not be any blood at all anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing that people are seeing is because

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<v Speaker 2>I did a video that there should have been some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of burn marks on Charlie from the mic exploding.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I was making that video, i'd woken up

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<v Speaker 2>that morning, I'd put it all together, and I'd woken

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<v Speaker 2>up and I worked on the video that entire morning

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<v Speaker 2>until around two pm, and then I released the video

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram and all the social media platforms, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, there should be some kind of burnmarks on

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie if the exploding microphone theory is correct. And how

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<v Speaker 2>you would know that is if you had the autopsy photos.

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<v Speaker 2>If you couldn't get access to the autopsy photos, and

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<v Speaker 2>the next person that would be able to identify that

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<v Speaker 2>would be the doctor that was trying to save Charlie's life.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you remember, we talked about this a lotlast

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<v Speaker 2>time we did a show on Charlie Kirk. The doctor

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<v Speaker 2>was being blocked from returning back in to check on

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie right to clean him up, for Erica Kirk to

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<v Speaker 2>get there. And the reason that he would be blocked

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<v Speaker 2>and that didn't really make a lot of sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they want to block the doctor from going

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<v Speaker 2>in and clean up Charlie. Well, the reason that they

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<v Speaker 2>would want to block him is because he could go

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<v Speaker 2>in there and identify that there was something else going

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<v Speaker 2>on with Charlie that could have led to his death.

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<v Speaker 2>And after he cleaned him up, then he would have

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<v Speaker 2>seen some kind of burdmark from an explosion somewhere around

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<v Speaker 2>his chest. And I was like, you would need to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the doctor because he would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>confirm if he saw anything, or the nurses or anybody

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<v Speaker 2>that was there that day to saul Charlie's body, they

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<v Speaker 2>would be able to identify if there's something else going

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<v Speaker 2>on with his chest. Right. And then little did I

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<v Speaker 2>know that Baron Coleman had posted a photo that shows

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of markings on Charlie's chancel, like right underneath

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<v Speaker 2>his breast from his bright nipple there. Now people were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say that that was blood, that that was

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<v Speaker 2>blood from people that were handling him and moving him,

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<v Speaker 2>which the way that they moved him to the vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>was criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Criminal. I just watched it today where I got on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I watched him carry his body. It was criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's cradling his neck, there's nobody's tending to the wounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's doing anything actually except holding him wrong, holding in

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<v Speaker 1>a fashion that's going to actually exacerbate everything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>What they should have done, I said this before, is

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<v Speaker 1>they should have taken off their shirts, plugged all the

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<v Speaker 1>plugged the whole that was on Charlie, and called a

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<v Speaker 1>damn ambulance. That's what they should have done. But there

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<v Speaker 1>were e MT people there. They tried to give the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the passenger seat of the van and EMP kit.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like that, yeah, we don't need that. We

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<v Speaker 1>cut slams the door on him. So you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>reject the e MT. They do not handle him in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form like you should handle somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>They it's just it's it's it's so weird and suspicious,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, for sure all the suspicions is going

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<v Speaker 1>to fall onto uh, all those people that were supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie's friends, I mean, that's what's going to happen here,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what is happening, and what else? Choice? What

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<v Speaker 1>the choice do you have except maybe he faked it.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, squibs do leave marks on your skin,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they do. And James Kahn and The Godfather in

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<v Speaker 1>that famous scene where he's shot like twenty five times

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<v Speaker 1>on the bridge, that's all one take and he was

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<v Speaker 1>equipped with twenty five squibs and went off and he

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<v Speaker 1>badly that they had to do emergency run to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>So squibs do can't hurt you and leave marks on you.

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<v Speaker 1>But so again it's two different paths down two different roads,

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<v Speaker 1>with the evidence supporting both.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, what would you need to destroy the microphone

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a squib though exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And why would you exactly why would you need to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the microphone? Well, we don't know if they destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the microphone, do we.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I personally believe that the microphone is at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the sug there's not really anything else that

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<v Speaker 2>can possibly be so exploded or someone that took Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>of evidence while they were in the van, because the

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<v Speaker 2>way that that microphone works is that it records the

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<v Speaker 2>entire time. I have the road I had the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same setup right here, the road Wireless Pro that I

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<v Speaker 2>I filmed a clockwork shining with them. We use them

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I filmed your part for a psychic Agent, the

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<v Speaker 2>gate program. You used it. I used it. Three other

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<v Speaker 2>people that were in the movie also used it, so

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<v Speaker 2>I know how these work. The actual microphone itself stays recording.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a setting that you can as soon as you

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<v Speaker 2>take it out of the case. It has this red

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<v Speaker 2>mark on it that means that it's recording. Now it

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<v Speaker 2>records directly to this. You don't need the receiver if

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<v Speaker 2>you're just doing audio. The receiver is a separate part.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I have the receiver hooked up to my

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<v Speaker 2>iHome because I'm using the Road Wireless Pro on me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's absolutely no reason that Charlie would ever need to

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<v Speaker 2>have the receiver on his body. And you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it wasn't a microphone, and we'll never put

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<v Speaker 2>the receiver on his body along with the microphone. The

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<v Speaker 2>receiver is going to be hooked up to a camera or.

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<v Speaker 1>Computer exactly, and they put the microphone under the shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>which you would never do period. No one would ever

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Nobody in the world. Maybe a twelve year

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<v Speaker 1>old that doesn't know anything, but put the microphone under

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<v Speaker 1>the shirt because it's gonna rup all the audio is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to be either thrown away or fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>Very difficult to fix that too, by the way, And

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<v Speaker 1>so that doesn't make any sense. So the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>you'd want to put the microphone under the shirt is

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an explosive. You're trying to hide it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you were, if you were using this, because there are

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that you know, you hook a microphone into

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<v Speaker 2>the actual top of the like the one that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>using right now. It's hidden because I'm using the cable

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<v Speaker 2>that has a little bush capacity and not capacitor, but

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<v Speaker 2>the spongy thing on the end of it that protects

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<v Speaker 2>you from all the noise of it under your.

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<v Speaker 1>Shirt, the sponge protector.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm using that, so it's hidden. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I was just using just the straight microphone, I would

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<v Speaker 2>never put it on the inside of my shirt. I

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<v Speaker 2>would just clip it to the outside. That's how everybody

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<v Speaker 2>wears these that uses just the road mic without the

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<v Speaker 2>attachment or without the cable. They put it on the

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<v Speaker 2>outside of their shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing that almost nobody who has talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>that it's such an unprofessional mistake to make that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to conclude that the person who put that

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<v Speaker 1>microphone on knew exactly what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's another thing that people.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Fonsworth, the guy that put the microphone on him,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that retrieved the SD card.

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<v Speaker 2>That I'm not too sure. I haven't know, Canda says,

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it, and she's named him a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's call for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be worth looking at the footage before he

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<v Speaker 1>starts talking and see who the guy is that put

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<v Speaker 1>that mic on him, because that guy no, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another thing though. It could be I know this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds really crazy, but it could be that they switched

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on the inside switched the original road with the

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<v Speaker 1>one with the explosives, and nobody knew it but him.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be it could be like an agent for

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<v Speaker 1>another kind of tree right, trying to get Charlie off

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of them can't figure out what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually is a very high possibility. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Tyler Robinson, what was he doing there? Who

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<v Speaker 1>invited him there? You know, he'd never been there before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all very strange, you know, in going to a

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<v Speaker 1>place you've never been, roaming around with a high powered

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<v Speaker 1>rifle and on a campus with kids at it, people attending,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he throws the he somehow makes the gun

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<v Speaker 1>back together and throws it in the chicken coop when

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<v Speaker 1>the bomb dogs come by, and they don't smell it

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<v Speaker 1>even it just got fire, supposedly, and you know, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of inconsistencies, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>problems with the entire thing, I mean, from the destroying

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<v Speaker 2>of evidence, from the keeping of evidence to the paving

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<v Speaker 2>over of the crime scene, to the immediate cleaning and

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<v Speaker 2>selling of the SUV vehicle that should have remained in evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>to the destroying of Charlie Kirk's shirt that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would indicate the MIC is the explosive mic is the

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<v Speaker 1>answer says you would want you to because you would

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<v Speaker 1>have bomb residue on the ground, you'd have to clean

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<v Speaker 1>it all up, which they did, and paving it over,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that no one you didn't miss anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>then cleaning up the van where there's gonna be bomb

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<v Speaker 1>residue in the van, and the T shirt which is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the necklace, and the concern for the necklace. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are they so concerned about that necklace because that had

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<v Speaker 1>bomb residue on it. They wanted to make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>got it. And like Candace showed several witnesses and said

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<v Speaker 1>they saw the assassination and Charlie got hit here. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got hit right in the chest right, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really where you want to shoot somebody if you're doing assassination,

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<v Speaker 1>because the head's too small and dicey Sturnam is much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and fatter and easier to hit. But and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was where it was. The road mike was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do it, but somehow it got shifted or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it went off, it went off in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong direction. And it's very likely nobody there even knew

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<v Speaker 1>that that road mike had explosives in it. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>just in a panic state ever since because the don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought up the necklace because I have

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<v Speaker 2>an entire theory about that that I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>into hearing just a little bit, but I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to play a montage of a lot of the first

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<v Speaker 2>hand eyewitnesses that were there, that gave reports to news

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<v Speaker 2>agencies at that time. And it's so odd because they

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<v Speaker 2>they seemed like so happy and cheerful. Yeah, they're like

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<v Speaker 2>smiling and like kind of like laughing. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a very traumatic thing to have witness, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>if you hated the person or hated the individual, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>witnessing something like that firsthand is going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>damaging no matter who it is. So it's very suspicious

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<v Speaker 2>that these people are so happy, They're acting so happy

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<v Speaker 2>and smiling and like kind of like laughing and snickering.

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<v Speaker 2>Here where, let's watch this video. It's about a minute long,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty terrifying. Pably is scarius thing I've ever been a

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<v Speaker 2>part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely going to be seeing my counselor. I will

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of therapy on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm saying, you know, this is crazy, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually mentioned, like what if something really like crazy happened? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>not what if he got shot? I said, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy right there, This guy is saying, in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of this this event, what if Charlie got shot

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Like, why would you think that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then there's the problem of the last question

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<v Speaker 1>that Charlie answered was about transgender violence. That's quite the

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<v Speaker 1>coincidence since his shooter was designated as a transit not

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<v Speaker 1>trans but a trans lover. So I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, yeah, I don't know, man. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>with the FBI would have to be involved, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, they would would. I had to have been an entire

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<v Speaker 2>plant thing. And these people seem like that they're what

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<v Speaker 2>do those people called them insert themselves into an event actor.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a different name for it, not honey pots, but

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<v Speaker 2>crisis actors. Crisis actors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they're not very good actors, that's for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is strange the guy would be laughing like that,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we goes finishing this real quick, yea, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well now a few hours later, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with what you saw?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean it was a pretty traumatic experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've had friends around all day, which has really

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<v Speaker 1>been helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're definitely getting flashbacks every once in a while

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<v Speaker 3>from it, but we're just trying to deal with cope

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<v Speaker 3>with it. Well, a sudden just tons of blood gushing

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<v Speaker 3>right out where his heart is and then he like

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<v Speaker 3>fell over and slumped down, and everybody got down and

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<v Speaker 3>was screaming, and then we all ran out straight and

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie Kirk and that was it. And I think they

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<v Speaker 3>got him.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you see the person who fired the shot

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I just knew that it came to the right

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<v Speaker 3>of me and went just directly into his.

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<v Speaker 2>Heart, directly into his heart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's clearly that was part of the deal. It was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to come up off right here and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that person is a crisis actor, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had their lines and they read their lines not realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that they were wrong. I think she corrects herself later,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, like the next day she says, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>came out the next same girl, so you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>got talked to her where she saw what she was

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<v Speaker 1>doing wrong and fixed it. Yeah, there's there's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>what's his name that said that he did it right.

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<v Speaker 1>The older guy, how was he doing? And he threw

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<v Speaker 1>all the cops off from chasing anybody, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be done on purpose. So yeah, to eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>the the Tyler, Robinson and the squib theory, then there's

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<v Speaker 1>only one theory left, and that has to be that

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<v Speaker 1>this thing was planned way ahead of time as a

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<v Speaker 1>precise military operation. Absolutely actors, crisis actors, people designed to

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<v Speaker 1>push put you off the path of chasing things. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The only people that seem like they're honest in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing are the local police. They actually look like

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to solve a crime. But then the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI gets involved in Yeah, it's pretty damning. And I

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<v Speaker 1>you ever see Trump at the press conference when he's

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<v Speaker 1>asked about Charlie Kirk, he just ignored it question.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't see that.

422
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 1>I completely ignores it, didn't say anything. There's like a

423
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>couple of days after this assassination, very strange behavior by Trump.

424
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to bring this up because no one's

425
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 2>really talking about this. I think it's kind of kind

426
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>of flew under the radar because there was so much

427
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on at the time, and looking back, I

428
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>believe that this is very suspicious. Which is from the

429
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>day of the assassination, when that assassination happened to Charlie

430
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 2>kirk to Wing. Erica posted that video of her by

431
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the casket along with photos of Charlie, you know, in

432
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the casket, which everyone was kind of, you know, up

433
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 2>in arms about, like why would you post that video?

434
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a really intimate time that you're supposed to have

435
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:24.799
<v Speaker 2>with your deceased husband. But no one talked about how

436
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 2>short of amount of time that was from his assassination

437
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 2>to her posting that video in that photo. Do you

438
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>know how short of amount of time that was? That

439
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>was two days. The assassination took place on a Wednesday

440
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>on the tenth, and that video in photos of Erica

441
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>next to Charlie was posted on September eleventh. I know

442
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>about you, Jay, but that's suspiciously fast, Okay, With that

443
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>amount of time, you were asking the public to believe

444
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>that there was enough time for a thorough autopsy, cleaning

445
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>of the body, embalming, and then preparation of the body

446
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 2>for a casket reveal in just two days.

447
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty hard to believe. The thing about that video

448
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>also that flips me out is how small Charlie's hands are.

449
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>He was six foot five and his hands are like

450
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 1>those like a five foot ten man's hands really small,

451
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean like unnaturally small. So Eric, his hands are

452
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>bigger than his hands in that casket thing. And I

453
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 1>can't understand that. I can't, I can't can't understand it,

454
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why she even posted it. It

455
00:28:54.160 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>was really strange. And you know that it's likely he

456
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 1>hasn't even been buried yet.

457
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>No one knows where he's buried.

458
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>My Leianopolis said two months after it that he hadn't

459
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 1>been buried yet. Why wouldn't you bury somebody who had

460
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 1>been dead for two months? So that's very strange. And

461
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 1>probably you don't want to tell anybody where he's buried

462
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 1>because of all the crazy people go there and pee

463
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>on his grave and all that. So I understand that far,

464
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 1>but still it is strange.

465
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>It's very strange for the most high profile political assassination

466
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>since jfk Ye that two days after he has been assassinated,

467
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>he's already ready and prepared in a tasket, and Eric

468
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>is posting photos and videos.

469
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.599
<v Speaker 1>See sometimes you bring up evidence and it looks like

470
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>he did fake it. You know that would be you know,

471
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that would be what you would do if you were

472
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>faking it. You get something out right away as fast

473
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 1>as you could to make everybody think he's dead. But

474
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Like I said, if he was still alive,

475
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 1>he would have called Candace or had an intermediary sent

476
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 1>her a mess. He's telling her to cool it, and

477
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 1>she would have done it because he was her friend.

478
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Now she would have known exactly why he faked it

479
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>because of you know who our greatest ally, you know,

480
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 1>and so to get away from them. But they also

481
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 1>could be the ones and some other ones that are

482
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>famous for creating explosive little devices.

483
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know.

484
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.839
<v Speaker 1>They very likely they're the ones who provided the road microphone,

485
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 1>or at least help provide it. So I don't know.

486
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they see there's some things that make sense

487
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>with that theory, and then there's some other things that

488
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>mixed with the with the other theory. And you know,

489
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>if if it was fake, then there's a lot of unknowns.

490
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>There's a there's too many questions that come up that

491
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>don't make any sense if it's fake. But if it

492
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 2>was some kind of they.

493
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't have ever had to clean the van or get

494
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 1>rid of it. They wouldn't have had to they would

495
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>have had to get rid of the shirt because it'd

496
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>be fake blood. But uh yeah, there are some things

497
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that don't make sense. The biggest thing ab all in

498
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>regard to Charlie faking it is there's no blood when

499
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>they're carrying him. There's no blood dropping from them. The

500
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>people handling him have hardly any blood on their hands

501
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 1>or feet or shoes, and there's no blood in the van.

502
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So that so you see, there's like this incredible disychotomy

503
00:31:53.200 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>going on here and probably never solve it.

504
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>It is strange. But then it's like, well, why is

505
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 2>the why is the microphone at the exploded at the

506
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the back of the suv? You know what

507
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like it doesn't some things answer some things

508
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>with one of the theories, and then I think that

509
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>some kind of explosion makes the most sense that happened

510
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to it.

511
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 1>But I can think of a reason why you would

512
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of that microphone and break it

513
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>up if it was a squib, because there'd be fake

514
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 1>blood all over it. Corns are up blood, right, and

515
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 1>so you know you might just thrown it down on

516
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the ground and smash it so that you know nobody

517
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 1>will ever be able to find it again, but yeah,

518
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it does look like it exploded. I'm sixty percent in

519
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 1>favor of exploding microphone, forty percent in favor of the squib,

520
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and zero percent favor that Tyler robin Uson had anything

521
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 1>to do with being violent that day.

522
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 2>And definitely zero percent on that one as well.

523
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, poor guy and Charlie did fake it and he's

524
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>railroading Tyler Robinson and Charlie, you're ashmark. So you know,

525
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>if you if you're railroading an innocent guy and you

526
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 1>can stop it, then I don't know what kind of

527
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>person you are. So again that favors that the exploding

528
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>microphone theory, because I don't think Charlie's a guy that

529
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 1>would let somebody, you know, take a hit like that.

530
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 1>And he said, man, he just doesn't seem that kind

531
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 1>of guy, So you know, I don't know. Definitely, the

532
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>FBI is involved in this, and definitely JD. Vance is

533
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>involved in this, and Erica knows what's going on, and

534
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>she's definitely lying. She has been caught lying several times.

535
00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Why lie if Charlie was still alive, I lie, right,

536
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you were involved in his death, then you

537
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 1>would lie.

538
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then when you think about the Butler Pennsylvania thing

539
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>as well, and that investigation basically being shut down with

540
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Parker Carlson basically said that Trump was the one responsible

541
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>for shutting down that investigation.

542
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's what Joe Kent said. Yep. And yeah, so

543
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>what is all all about? I mean, did Trump even

544
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>get shot that day? You know, they got the Secret

545
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Service person moving the photographers in right at the right moment.

546
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Why would you be moving photographers into position to take

547
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 1>a photo if you thought there was a shooter behind you,

548
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>still active in shooting, you wouldn't You wouldn't think that.

549
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>The Secret Service had already taken him out by that time.

550
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that they took him out as soon as

551
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 2>the shot hit.

552
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Trumps off before the sniper hit him, So it was

553
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>like about eight seconds or so he had to shoot

554
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>eight shots. Why he was allowed to shoot eight shots,

555
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.559
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Since the sniper was clearly already

556
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>on him, they could have stopped him at any point.

557
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>That's another part of this. It doesn't make any sense.

558
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:33.199
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's pretty weird that that guy got asked

559
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to sit right behind Trump. And hmm, there's so many

560
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 1>things about Butler. That don't make sense. The two guys

561
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that were supposed to be watching the roof where Crooks

562
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>was at they both split from their position so they

563
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't see him. There's two snipers clearly saw him this

564
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 1>film with them before he shot. They're looking at him

565
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>through their scopes, but they didn't do anything. And other

566
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>people say they heard shots coming from the water tower.

567
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>The people in the audience. Crooks trained at the same

568
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 1>facility as the FBI and the Secret Service train at

569
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 1>for firearms, I mean, and they washed the roof off

570
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the next day. The FBI did wow. And there's another

571
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 1>thing about that whole thing that I've looked into that

572
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really talked much about. But in Butler, there

573
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was a pro Ukrainian advocate, a person that was pro

574
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Ukrainian in the Ukraine War, about twenty two years old,

575
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>really adamant about his support for Ukraine, very radical, radical leftists,

576
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and he had Facebook and ex account and all this,

577
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>and they all went silent. On that day. I went

578
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>on the Butler They've never gone back, and he was

579
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 1>threatening Trump because Trump was going to get out of

580
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.519
<v Speaker 1>the Ukraine War. He was on social media threatening Trump.

581
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I've read the threats. He should have been visited by

582
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 1>the Secret Service, but it doesn't look like he was,

583
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and he disappeared completely the same day that Trump got shot.

584
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget the second assassination attempt on Trump

585
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 1>and the golf course was also a Ukrainian activist, a

586
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 1>person who wanted to kill Trump for his position on

587
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 1>the Ukraine War. So you can see that there's just

588
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot going on there, and it's just like it's

589
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways similar to the Charlie Kirk assassination.

590
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You can't figure out if it's fake or real. A

591
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 1>guy dies, so that immediately makes you think that it's real,

592
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 1>But then you find out that the guy's probably a

593
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>witness to some pretty horrendous crime in the past and

594
00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe knows a lot of stuff that he shouldn't know,

595
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, you conveniently get rid of him,

596
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and the rest of it's all fake. It could be.

597
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 1>It really could be, And Alex Jones and Jesse on

598
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Fire certainly think that, and they're not alone. There's a

599
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of military guys on the Internet that are wondering

600
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>what's really going on there. So I don't know.

601
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that it's more likely that it may have

602
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 2>been a set up to kill this guy that was

603
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 2>a witness to the guy that said that he was

604
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>stealing all this explosive material, and it was set up

605
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 2>to kill him, But it was also a set up

606
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to kill Trump. And they didn't kill Trump. They missed Trump,

607
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 2>but they got him, and Trump wasn't supposed to survive,

608
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>so then that became like a threat to him. And

609
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>then since he survived, it's kind of like, hm, it's

610
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 2>eyes White shot all over again. Right when when Tom

611
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Cruise enters into the Secret Society and then the hooker

612
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>girl that he saved her life earlier in the movie

613
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>from Odin up in Ziegler's apartment, right then sacrifices herself

614
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>for Tom Cruise so that he can get out of

615
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 2>the cult. Right, That's kind of like what And that

616
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 2>person that sacrificed himself for Trump was Charlie Kirk. I

617
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 2>know that sounds crazy, It sounds like a wild, made

618
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 2>up thing, but it makes sense to me, like somebody

619
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 2>has to die and Trump survived, and so therefore they

620
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.679
<v Speaker 2>switched it over to Charlie Kirk and someone had to

621
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 2>get asked, and that person to get acted. Was Charlie Kirk.

622
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>It was a ritual. It was a ritual sacrifice.

623
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with you because it certainly

624
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>looks like that, and and that would mean that the

625
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 1>TPUSA is all in on it. And they got what

626
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 1>how much money did they get like seven million dollars

627
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>in donations right after Charlie died? I think it was

628
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>worn't that Actually it was more like twenty million. So

629
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they had their sacrifice and they got their giant payoff.

630
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's like a double cross on Trump. Like Trump

631
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to die, they were supposed but he didn't

632
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>know that, right He might have been involved and knew

633
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 2>that something was going to happen and that somebody was

634
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.960
<v Speaker 2>going to you know, that's why they gave him the

635
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 2>pager because that guy that died at Butler was connected

636
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 2>to the guy that they got the explosives for for

637
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the Lebanon pagers, and they Trump was a part of

638
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 2>this deal to get rid of him because he was

639
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.079
<v Speaker 2>a he knew more than what he was supposed to know,

640
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and little did he know that he was also great.

641
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>It was like a double crossing thing. They were going

642
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>to take out Trump and take out this guy, right.

643
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 1>That makes total sense actually, and then and then that's

644
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>did Trump pretty much, you know, change his positions on

645
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of big subjects after that, after the shooting,

646
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you know, he wasn't for the

647
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Epstein file release, well before, he was, all of a

648
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>sudden he wasn't didn't want to get involved in wars,

649
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but he allowed himself to get involved, really in two

650
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Iran wars, the Twelve Day War and the one that's

651
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>going on right now. And he can't get out. He

652
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 1>can't get out because if he tries to get out,

653
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Israel just start shooting at everybody again. They'll all start

654
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 1>up again. So there's no way to get out of it.

655
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>He knows there's no way to get out of it.

656
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, He's doing all sorts of desperate measures and

657
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 1>none of them are working. Iran's laughing their ass off

658
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 1>at us, and there's nothing we can do. And we

659
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>got involved in all of this because our greatest ally,

660
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, forced our hands in it, and because they're

661
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 1>actually not our greatest valet, there are our greatest enemy.

662
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And uh. And then Charlie was adamantly against the Iran war,

663
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 1>argued successfully for it. Had Tucker argue with Trump about it.

664
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 1>He argued with Trump about it. That kept us out

665
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of it. Uh. And then as soon as Charlie dies,

666
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>now we're in a full scale war, which he would

667
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 1>have been the largest opponent too, of everyone on earth.

668
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>He would have been the large law, the loudest person

669
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>speaking against it, cause it would have caused a big,

670
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>huge drift between his wing of the party and Trump.

671
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I think you might be right.

672
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 2>So Charlie was the one that convinced him just to

673
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 2>do that bombing of the nuclear facilities and Iran to

674
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 2>begin with, and not turn it into the big, huge

675
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 2>thing than after he was dead. It's like the Long War.

676
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I ran every day because more and more obvious

677
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 1>why he got killed, because he would have been the

678
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>biggest opponent to this thing. But speaking out, I mean,

679
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big opponent, but I'm nobody, you know, but Shirely,

680
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he would have been on Fox everywhere and it would

681
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>have been spectacular. Actually, I wish I could have seen it.

682
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>They took that away from us, but we probably wouldn't

683
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>have gotten in the Iran war Charlie had he got died,

684
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 1>because he yeah, you know, and then look at TPUSA,

685
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.159
<v Speaker 1>it's completely destroyed. They have no they have a mission,

686
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but they can't do their mission. Why because their mission

687
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is to go out and talk to college students. If

688
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:49.679
<v Speaker 1>they go out and talk to college students, they're going

689
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to have to answer up a lot of questions that

690
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>they refuse to answer about all of the Charlie kirk assassination.

691
00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So they are essentially done. There's nothing they can do that.

692
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>The whole mission is you go out and talk to

693
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 1>people and try to create a you know, alliance between

694
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 1>different groups, and they can't open themselves up to questions,

695
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>so it's not going to happen. So it's over. There's

696
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 1>like no point even giving any money to There's nothing

697
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.639
<v Speaker 1>they can do. I mean the fun elections, I guess

698
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 1>with all that money, But other than that, I don't

699
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>see what the whole point of it is, and they

700
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 1>don't see the whole point. The radio show that Charlie Kirkshaw,

701
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they keep naming it that. That's

702
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of weird. But the radio show isn't like any

703
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of spectacular cutting edge radio show either. Your show

704
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 1>is more cutting edge. So I don't know what they're doing,

705
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and all they're going to do is agree with the

706
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>official line that Tyler Robinson did it and not even

707
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>have hours of curiosity about all the weirdness going on.

708
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Then I can only conclud that they're involved.

709
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what evidence they actually have that Tyler

710
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Robinson really did this. All of the evidence has been destroyed, Jay,

711
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>all of it's been destroyed or is missing anything they

712
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 2>can then to link Tyler Robinson they're actually doing this

713
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>is gone?

714
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Do they do gun a gunpowder residue test on the guy?

715
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.360
<v Speaker 2>No? What?

716
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you probably took a shower or something and in

717
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the in between. But again, I have never seen any

718
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 1>evidence and they seem like they're holding it from Tyler

719
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Robinson's attorneys what evidence they have so they want to

720
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 1>arena'ty been showing it? And you know, outside of the

721
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.639
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous confession to his free lover over the text, which

722
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>nobody would ever do. You just shot somebody and you're

723
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 1>telling you everything on text about what you did. Nobody

724
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>would do that, nobody. And I think that's all they

725
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>got is the texting and just go to groc and

726
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 1>ask if somebody can fake a text message on your

727
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>phone and they'll tell you exactly how to do it.

728
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's if that's all they got, they've

729
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>got nothing. If they railroad that guy, that's a real tragedy.

730
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:29.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the first thing that they did with Oswald and

731
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the JFK assassination is they gave him a what is

732
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 2>that called a paraffin yet yep.

733
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we put a little bits of candle wax on

734
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you and they strip it off and they look at

735
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the microscope to see if there's any gunpowder residue on it.

736
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 1>And they should have done that. They have a much

737
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>more sophisticated test nowt it. That should have been the

738
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.159
<v Speaker 1>first thing because even if you take a shower, it's

739
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>still like in your hair, and you know what I mean.

740
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 1>So we shoot a gun like that, you're gonna get

741
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>it in your hair. You know, there's no doubt about it.

742
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, it's a It will never be solved,

743
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and we can bet cash Hotel is not gonna help

744
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 1>at all. Anyway. He's already quit and so that the

745
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Utah law enforcement officers are in charge of this case.

746
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>We're out of here, so they're already out of the case.

747
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, anything to do with it. He's giving it

748
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>back to the law enforcement. And in Utah, who would

749
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>probably you know, a bunch of corrupt Mormons, right, And

750
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 1>let's not forget the number one religion that the CIA

751
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>recruits from is the Mormon religion. Yeah, after the FBI

752
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>goes in and screws everything up, destroys the evidence, doesn't

753
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>put evidence into cassody, then they give it back to

754
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>the police.

755
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Here you go, screw all this up. Here, you can

756
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>have this shut show.

757
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 1>And of course we can figure out anything on the

758
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Utah lawnforcement side anymore. And they screwed it all up.

759
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>And they're probably perfectly meaningful people be If you're get

760
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>in bad evidence, it's not going to work. So that's how. Yeah,

761
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I'd believe that there is a serious connection between Butler

762
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 1>and the Charlie Kirk assassination. I don't know what it is.

763
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I think you found part of it with the fact

764
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that that guy knew the other guy, and with the

765
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 1>explosives and the destruction of the explosive factory in Tennessee

766
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 1>also leads me to believe that there's some kind of

767
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>massive cover up. And the other thing I can't figure

768
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>out is why the video of Tyler Robinson coming into

769
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 1>the police station is missing. I don't understand that part.

770
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. Why would they not want that

771
00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:01.079
<v Speaker 1>to be seen? And can't figure it out. But it

772
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:06.239
<v Speaker 1>would indicate that the Utah that Sheriff's Department is part

773
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 1>of it. Something shady as hell.

774
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like with the moon landing. It's kind

775
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.880
<v Speaker 2>of like with you know a lot of other things.

776
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>The footage just goes missing. We don't know where it is.

777
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 2>It was destroyed, you know what I mean. Like it's

778
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just a coincidence that the exact thing that we

779
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.039
<v Speaker 2>need to prove something is now missing or has been destroyed.

780
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I agree. And all the moon landing video is gone.

781
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>All it's telematory data that the NASA guy has gone.

782
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Why would they do that because it's not real and

783
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody in the future will look at it and say

784
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:51.119
<v Speaker 1>this is real. You're trying to say here, boy, By

785
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm going to be probably in a new

786
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>TV show that it's going to do a trial of

787
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.039
<v Speaker 1>moon landings. It's gonna be a trial. The guy that

788
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.280
<v Speaker 1>is directing it, he did the O. J. Simpson trial.

789
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.599
<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that ran out all the cameras and

790
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 1>everything and is financed by some wealthy guy in Chicago.

791
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.760
<v Speaker 1>And the first episode is gonna be did the moon

792
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 1>landings really happen? And I'm gonna be on the side

793
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>of course that they didn't happen, and then there's gonna

794
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>be two other experts on the other side that says

795
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it does happen. It's going to go before a jury.

796
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>They're going to show the jury deliberating, and then the

797
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>judge is going to make a ruling. It's a real judge.

798
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's going to be super interesting. I'm excited for that.

799
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be really awesome because, like we were

800
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>mentioned mentioning before, I was like, you know, I don't

801
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 2>know who they're going to get to argue on before

802
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the four the four that we went, because I mean,

803
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 2>if you look into the evidence of the alternative theories,

804
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 2>then can't walk away still believing that we went.

805
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting thing because both sides

806
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>are gonna get equal time. I don't think that's ever

807
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>happened before. When is that supposed to be shooting in August?

808
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Perfect?

809
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it probably be out this fall. I think

810
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>they said Netflix is interested. We're gonna do everything, do

811
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 1>global warming, They're gonna do climate change, They're gonna do

812
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 1>all these subjects and have experts on both sides. So

813
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it's time for a show like that because

814
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 1>we're all kind of talking past each other right now, right,

815
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and to have a show that forces everybody to have

816
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to listen to the other side. You know. My theory

817
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.039
<v Speaker 1>about where America is watching two movies right now, you know,

818
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.519
<v Speaker 1>and one movie is going and half the people are

819
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 1>watching it, and the other movie is going half to

820
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>watching it, and this half will never watch this movie,

821
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and people will never watch this movie. So nobody's watching

822
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 1>the other side movies. So everybody's caught in little their

823
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.159
<v Speaker 1>own little world. And I think it's time now for

824
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>us to, you know, start talking to each other.

825
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a good thing, absolutely, I agree. Well,

826
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 2>to wrap up here, I want to present a different

827
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 2>type of theory that I think makes a lot of sense,

828
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and it involves Charlie Kirk's necklace.

829
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Right.

830
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So, Charlie Kirk's necklace was reportedly given to Charlie by

831
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Erica while they were dating, likely sometime between twenty nineteen

832
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:49.679
<v Speaker 2>and twenty twenty before they married in twenty twenty one. Now,

833
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.840
<v Speaker 2>what's interesting about the necklace that you brought up earlier

834
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:57.920
<v Speaker 2>in the conversation was the FBI's interest in the necklace, right,

835
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I was very concerned after Charlie had been killed about

836
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the necklace and they were looking for it. Now, why

837
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 2>would the FBI care so much about the necklace? To

838
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Charlie was wearing under his shirt. This was never outside

839
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 2>of his shirt. He always wore it on the inside

840
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 2>of his shirt, which I find very odd. I mean,

841
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 2>I wear a necklace on the inside of my shirt too.

842
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.280
<v Speaker 2>It's actually made of shung guy that nobody knows about.

843
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>But the strange thing is is the FBI knew about

844
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the necklace. Right. That would be like if something happened

845
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.039
<v Speaker 2>to me Jay, And then then the FBI said, where's

846
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Ryder's necklace? You know, first off, how do you know

847
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>about the necklace? Secondly, what does the necklace have to

848
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:51.119
<v Speaker 2>do with anything? And I'm going to give you my theory,

849
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>but I want to get your thoughts first on what

850
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.559
<v Speaker 2>the deal is with the necklace and why the FBI

851
00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:59.679
<v Speaker 2>was so concerned with the.

852
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Neck outside of a bomb residue. I can't think of

853
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 1>any reason why they would give the crap about the necklace.

854
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>They even sent what's his name, Frank Turk back to

855
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the van that's where he found it. Why did that?

856
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean just a necklace, you know. So I don't know.

857
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I really don't outside of the bomber residue. What's your theory.

858
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, Erica Kirk is now in possession of the necklace.

859
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 2>She now has a necklace and reportedly wears it every day,

860
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 2>just like Charlie Kirk award every day. So I'm gonna

861
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 2>play the video in slow motion of what was going

862
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:50.559
<v Speaker 2>on underneath Charlie Kirk's shirt at the moment of the assassination. Here,

863
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and you've seen this a lot. Everyone has seen this.

864
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:01.440
<v Speaker 2>His shirt lifts up, looks like the necklace is lifting

865
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 2>up out of his shirt from underneath his shirt. It

866
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like that. It doesn't look like the microphone, right,

867
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the microphone isn't lifting. It's the necklace that's lifting under

868
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:19.119
<v Speaker 2>his shirt. And the FBI wasn't after the after the microphone, right,

869
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 2>They didn't say where's the microphone at we need Charlie's microphone. No,

870
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.119
<v Speaker 2>it was his necklace. They wanted to know where his

871
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 2>necklace was. Okay, so what's the chances that it wasn't

872
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the microphone that exploded. The explosive device was inside of

873
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Charlie's necklace.

874
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 1>And it blew the mic up, and it blew.

875
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 2>The mic up, that's why the mic was destroyed. Yes, boom.

876
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Well that is a really good way to cause a distraction,

877
00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:00.119
<v Speaker 1>isn't it, because everyone would think it would be in

878
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the mic right or well then wowike, I don't know

879
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>what to think about that theory. But if you are right,

880
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 1>because isn't there a shot of the of the necklace,

881
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:21.599
<v Speaker 1>like coming out the back of the neck underneath the shure.

882
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is is that if it was the

883
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:30.079
<v Speaker 2>mic explosion that's on his right side. Well, what's the

884
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 2>chances that that's not close to his heart that's going

885
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to hit him in the right side where the mic is.

886
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:37.440
<v Speaker 2>That's not going to be a fatal woe. I mean,

887
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 2>it's going to hurt him. If that was their goal

888
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 2>was to explode the mic that's on the right side.

889
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>You would want the mic in the center or to

890
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:48.079
<v Speaker 2>the left by his heart, right, but it's on the right.

891
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.880
<v Speaker 2>So if you have the necklace, the necklace that hangs

892
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:54.079
<v Speaker 2>down into the center of his chest, right where his

893
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:58.039
<v Speaker 2>heart is. If you explode the necklace, the necklace lifts up, turns,

894
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.239
<v Speaker 2>shoots out the side, hits him right up the.

895
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Neck, and then Charlie like he might have leaned over

896
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 1>and it was like slipped this way a little bit

897
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>or something right and then went out through the neck,

898
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.719
<v Speaker 1>which is quite possible. Actually, you wouldn't want to do

899
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.599
<v Speaker 1>that with the squib, that's for sure. So you couldn't

900
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>fake the squib with a necklace. It's impossible, But you

901
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>could put a bomb in the necklace, which means that. Yeah, Eric,

902
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>have you seen the video of the palm pistol Pete,

903
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 1>You know the guy every way says it shot the

904
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 1>palm pistol. You know that right five minutes before he

905
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>does this. Yeah, he goes like that, puts hand up.

906
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Four minutes, he does this, three minutes, he does this,

907
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.159
<v Speaker 1>two minutes, one minute. I think he's the guy that

908
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>ignites the explosion. I think that's what he's doing. It's

909
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>not a polem pistol, it's the ignition switch.

910
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And everybody that's running towards Charlie after it happens

911
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 2>is putting stuff in their pockets like they're they're more

912
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:14.920
<v Speaker 2>concerned with grabbing things off the table and putting them

913
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>in their pockets instead of like checking on Charlie.

914
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>What is doing to Charlie? And then his hands stands up.

915
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:30.079
<v Speaker 1>You see that one. Charlie's hand goes up? What are

916
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 1>we doing here? Right? And that must be what it is?

917
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Didn't they necklace break? Did the chain break? Is that?

918
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Did I hear that? Right?

919
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that there was that it either broke

920
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>off in the car or somehow got out from around

921
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Charlie's knakin was in the vehicle, because that's where they

922
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 2>found it was in the vehicle and they retrieved it.

923
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:01.079
<v Speaker 2>And then Erica is the one that ended up getting

924
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 2>the necklace. But it's the only thing.

925
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>The bottom of his shirt or out completely.

926
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 2>So the necklace would have been the thing that calls

927
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 2>the explosion. And when you look at the necklace it

928
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:18.400
<v Speaker 2>has it's like the circular type of necklace that comes

929
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 2>out at four sides, right, so one side this way,

930
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:24.000
<v Speaker 2>one side down. It's a cross. It's across the necklace

931
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and the one side could have shot to the right,

932
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:33.000
<v Speaker 2>hit the microphone exploded the microphone, but not to the

933
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:36.119
<v Speaker 2>point that it would like that it was in that

934
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>it would fall out of his shirt or whatever. But

935
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:41.320
<v Speaker 2>whenever they're lifting them into the van, they're carrying him

936
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:44.119
<v Speaker 2>by his legs, so they're carrying him like flat into

937
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the suv, so there wouldn't have been much time for

938
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:49.559
<v Speaker 2>it to actually slip out of his shirt. And then

939
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that's what is because I had this theory and I

940
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 2>was watching it and then I was like, well, it

941
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any sense because how did the microphone get

942
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 2>exploded at the bottom of the floorboard on the suv?

943
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, well, if it was the necklace,

944
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the next necklace calls the explosion and hit the mic,

945
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's why it's lay And that's why the FBI

946
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 2>is so concerned with the necklace. If there was the

947
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 2>microphone that exploded, there would be more concerned with where's

948
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the microphone. Let's get up all the microphone pieces. But

949
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the microphone was the symptom of the necklace exploding.

950
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a pretty good explanation for it because it

951
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:33.559
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like it could be the mic when the

952
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>mic is up here, I mean, yeah, well, definitely something

953
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:46.199
<v Speaker 1>happened underneath that shirt, and and it was enough to

954
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 1>break the necklace, which is pretty weird to break the

955
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:52.360
<v Speaker 1>chain of a necklace. How could that happen? A gun certainly,

956
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.800
<v Speaker 1>but shot couldn't do that. It hit the necklace. And

957
01:00:56.840 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the concern about the necklace is concerning candasis and asked

958
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>herself this, how come Canada sized and said, wait a minute,

959
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 1>if the microphone's up here, how do you get shot

960
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>over here? Right?

961
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I think she's got so much stuff going on that

962
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>it's hard for her to keep track of everything. People

963
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:19.639
<v Speaker 2>are emailing her all the time with saying things, and

964
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 2>she's just trying to, you know, do the best that

965
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.239
<v Speaker 2>she can. She's got so much information going on. But

966
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:27.159
<v Speaker 2>it's the only thing that makes sense, because you wouldn't

967
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:31.760
<v Speaker 2>plant an explosive planning on hitting somebody in the chest,

968
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 2>because that's all that was obviously the goal.

969
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Of the plant.

970
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:39.400
<v Speaker 2>We just listened to the lady that was a witness

971
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 2>there on the news station that it hit him in

972
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the chest, and then a couple of hours later she's like, no,

973
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I hit him in the neck. So you would never

974
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 2>plant the explosive on a non fatal side of the

975
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.000
<v Speaker 2>body that you're planning on hitting them in the chest

976
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 2>because this is a non fatal side. The right side

977
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 2>is a non fatal side. I mean, it's going to

978
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 2>be damaging and if you're don't get to the hospital

979
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:04.920
<v Speaker 2>in time, then you're probably going to bleed out, but

980
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be vital, like the thing is

981
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.800
<v Speaker 2>hanging in the center of your chest.

982
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Damn, Charlie got killed by his wife's president and it's

983
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 1>a crucifix. He was a devout Christian. Wow, So I

984
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:32.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know enough about it, but the if it was

985
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.079
<v Speaker 1>a shape charge at the back of the crucifix, I

986
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:38.880
<v Speaker 1>guess yeah, it would work, and then it would spring

987
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.239
<v Speaker 1>up from doing that, just like it does in the shirt.

988
01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, springs up, twist, twists a little bit from the explosion,

989
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and then because right as it happens, the shirt lifts up,

990
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 2>and then I would imagine that the necklace inside of

991
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 2>his shirt turns just a little bit, and it doesn't

992
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the explosion that's coming out the It would be the

993
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:11.159
<v Speaker 2>left side of the necklace in it. It explodes out,

994
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>twists a little bit, and then boom hits them right

995
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:14.199
<v Speaker 2>in the side of the neck.

996
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There is a video of the necklace, the chain

997
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.360
<v Speaker 1>coming out of the neck of the top of his shirt.

998
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 1>So whatever the force was, it was enough to push

999
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:31.039
<v Speaker 1>that necklace chain like out out the back of the

1000
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:32.000
<v Speaker 1>shirt for a second.

1001
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's what I think. Nothing that that's

1002
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 2>the most plausible explanation of what happened.

1003
01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And tips at candas dot com write her and tell her.

1004
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Tips the candles.

1005
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:53.039
<v Speaker 1>You should tell her because I mean, it's it actually

1006
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:55.719
<v Speaker 1>helps her theory make more sense.

1007
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe sure, watch this go to of us talking

1008
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 2>about it. And I think she's on break right now.

1009
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 2>I think she'll be back for a couple of weeks

1010
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 2>or so, so maybe she'll get time to watch it.

1011
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 2>When I'm sure she gets so many theories and so

1012
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.719
<v Speaker 2>many people talking that it becomes a blur. But I

1013
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:22.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's very plausible and it really makes a lot

1014
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>of sense when you think about it.

1015
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It's the only thing that makes sense when you think

1016
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:32.760
<v Speaker 1>about it. Actually, the microphone theory doesn't really hold water

1017
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 1>at this point because it's not anywhere near the wood,

1018
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.920
<v Speaker 1>so how could it even be happening. It has to

1019
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.559
<v Speaker 1>be the necklace. It has to be, and that would

1020
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:48.199
<v Speaker 1>explain why they're in such a rush. And of course

1021
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the necklace must have some damage to it too.

1022
01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's see that necklace.

1023
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 1>It could be a completely different necklace by now.

1024
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.079
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, I would definitely be fixed and repaired

1025
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and all that by now for sure.

1026
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Well that's a wild one, super wild one.

1027
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.039
<v Speaker 2>But that's what I think happened. And I think it's

1028
01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:22.000
<v Speaker 2>highly palmusible when you think about it, when you look

1029
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 2>at the footage, how it happens. Something's going on underneath

1030
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the shirt makes sense that it exploded outward, and I

1031
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.199
<v Speaker 2>don't believe. And of course I'm not a ballistics expert

1032
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:37.039
<v Speaker 2>like people that you know talk about. You're not a

1033
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.400
<v Speaker 2>ballistic expert, so you can't talk about this stuff. Yeah

1034
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.239
<v Speaker 2>we can. We can all put two and two together

1035
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.400
<v Speaker 2>here when things don't make sense. I don't need to

1036
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.639
<v Speaker 2>be a freaking ballistics expert to put two and two

1037
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:53.599
<v Speaker 2>together to realize exactly what's going on. Okay, nobody does so,

1038
01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:57.880
<v Speaker 2>But a thirty odd six is I don't think it's

1039
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 2>going to create that much wain and from a singular

1040
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:05.639
<v Speaker 2>bullet to lift his shirt all the way up like that,

1041
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:08.800
<v Speaker 2>in his necklace out the back and his necklace up

1042
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:09.840
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's just not.

1043
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a ballistic expert, but I know it ain't

1044
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:19.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. It's not it's no anything. If anything,

1045
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that shirt's going to go inward, not outward. So it's

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01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 1>going to push in so no, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>The shirt is the secret to the whole entire crime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. It's a good thing he's wearing a white

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01:06:37.679 --> 01:06:39.519
<v Speaker 2>shirt too, because if it would have been a black shirt,

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01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 2>we know that they love doing the black shirt thing.

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01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 2>They did the same thing with Oswald. They switched him

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<v Speaker 2>into a black shirt so whenever he was shot, you

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01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:49.599
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see any blood.

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<v Speaker 1>No blood. No, it's curious that he's wearing a white

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<v Speaker 1>shirt that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, because it would have been very it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot more difficult to see exactly what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on in the movement of the shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was a black shirt, yeah you would. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well that's a thing's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Pardon me.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I think is going on. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's solid to.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it up in a video. Put it on, let's

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01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:27.719
<v Speaker 1>let the world see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well, Jay, thanks so much for coming on and

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<v Speaker 2>talking with me about this. Can you let people know

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01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:35.400
<v Speaker 2>where they can find you.

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01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got My new film will be coming out soon,

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01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Invisible Universe. You can find me on YouTube, reality check

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01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and Jay Widner dot com has all my free writing

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01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 1>and all my films are up on Amazon or Gaya.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Thank you very much. For everyone else, please be

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<v Speaker 2>sure to hit the thumbs up button out the channel

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01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.400
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<v Speaker 2>as well for notifications, and we'll see you guys next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm