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<v Speaker 1>Thirty here I fifty bot KRC Detalk station, A very

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<v Speaker 1>heavy Wednesday to you. Always welcome the return of Donald

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<v Speaker 1>and Neil from Americans for Prosperity, helping you help us

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<v Speaker 1>get good positive things happening in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald and Neil, welcome back, my friend. Good to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from you today, Brian, great to be with you again.

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<v Speaker 1>And another great idea to save our salary Campaign AFPs

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<v Speaker 1>launched this to support a two point seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>flat tax. That sounds like a step in the right direction. Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>what's this going to mean if it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Past Well, yeah, so you know we've mentioned this on

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<v Speaker 2>the show before. Right, Ohio continues to be ranked in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the pack in the number of policy

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<v Speaker 2>areas economic competitiveness. Tax rates are one of those areas

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<v Speaker 2>where we're thoroughly mediocre, and we have the opportunity here

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<v Speaker 2>right to put through the state budget process. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing right now, to call in the state

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<v Speaker 2>Senate to get this done, to move Ohio from a

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<v Speaker 2>top marginal rate of three point five percent to a

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<v Speaker 2>flat tax of two point seventy five percent. It would

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<v Speaker 2>be the lowest in the region. It would put us

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<v Speaker 2>an competitive foothold, and most importantly, Brian for the promises

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<v Speaker 2>these politicians have been making for decades now would get

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<v Speaker 2>us best position to begin that march to a zero

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<v Speaker 2>percent income tax, so we can be like Texas, Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>and Florida and reap the benefits of good, sound, fiscal

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<v Speaker 2>conservative policies in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, you know there's arguments against this, and

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans dominate Columbus across the board, yet they typically don't

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<v Speaker 1>do the right thing, at least in terms of traditional

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<v Speaker 1>Republican party platform things, which would mean something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's the pushback coming from and what are the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that are articulated for the pushback, Like we can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford to cut this to two seventy five. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's making that argument.

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<v Speaker 2>Donovan. Well, that's the nice thing about our opponents on

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<v Speaker 2>this issue is their talking points, their tactics haven't changed.

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<v Speaker 2>The tactic is, yeah, it's hey, we can't afford this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got all these services we have to provide. It

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<v Speaker 2>would be catastrophic to the state. To those folks. What

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<v Speaker 2>I point out, especially on the state income tax, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your roads and bridges are already paid for, Brian through

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<v Speaker 2>your gas tax. Right, you're lost loop, Well, I'd like.

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<v Speaker 1>To see the numbers on that, Donovan O'Neill. How much

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<v Speaker 1>did they actually take in in taxes from the gasoline

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<v Speaker 1>tax which was raised by the wine if I recall correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>versus how much has actually spent out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>roads what they claim the total of projects are cost

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know a lot of complaints out in the

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<v Speaker 1>world about the situation on our roads out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but what I do know is they

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<v Speaker 2>keep working on this same stretch of highway by my

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<v Speaker 2>house over and over and over again every year. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where if they just can't get it

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<v Speaker 2>read the first time, or what it might be. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fair question the effectiveness of it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's an important reason why you also want a

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<v Speaker 2>flat tax. Right. The collection on a flat tax versus

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<v Speaker 2>a progressive tax, the compliance not just for the state

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<v Speaker 2>but for the taxpayer goes down significantly. Right, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>one flat rate two point seventy five percent. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you made I'm bad at math. I'm notoriously bad

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<v Speaker 2>at math, Brian, Right, but you made you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks in a year, two dollars and seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>cents is going to go to Columbus. You don't need

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<v Speaker 2>a CPA to tell you that. You just have to

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<v Speaker 2>do some very simple fourth grade maybe now seventh grade

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<v Speaker 2>math given our education quality this country. But well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the very simple math to figure that out. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the compliance costs for individuals, employees, businesses drops, the state

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<v Speaker 2>gets generally sees a higher share. We see this on

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<v Speaker 2>the federal level with the Trump tax cuts. When they

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<v Speaker 2>simplified the federal tax code, more money came in. Not

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<v Speaker 2>because people were happy to pay more taxes, it was

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<v Speaker 2>easier to comply, and so that the government the people

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<v Speaker 2>got a better share of the money that was needed

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<v Speaker 2>to be owed to the government. It's kind of walk crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it make it works. So that's the idea behind

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<v Speaker 2>this is simplify the tax code, make Ohio competitive, and

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<v Speaker 2>really put us on a path to excellence.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I trust all how it has a version

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<v Speaker 1>of the CBO of the the numbers and the impact

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<v Speaker 1>on two point seventy five percent versus I. Honestly, Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember what our current tax rate is

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're down to two brackets two point seventy five, well,

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<v Speaker 2>zero percent up to the first twenty six thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>you earn. After that you have a two point seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five percent rate up to around ninety seven ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars on the income for an individual or a

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<v Speaker 2>married filing jointly, and then above that ninety seven or

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<v Speaker 2>so thousand dollars is a three point five percent rate.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is something right too, that our opponents

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<v Speaker 2>will make arguments about in saying, well, this is only

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<v Speaker 2>going to benefit the wealthiest of the wealthy, right, the rich,

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<v Speaker 2>the rich folks, the twelve billionaires maybe we have living

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio, right, But the reality is, you can very easily,

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<v Speaker 2>in a simple family of four, right, a father who's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a police officer and a mother who's a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>with a few years of experience, easily get to that

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<v Speaker 2>top marginal rate right over ninety seven thousand dollars right

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<v Speaker 2>filing jointly. And so this getting to a flattox, the

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<v Speaker 2>two point seven percent truly helps allow highlands, especially those

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<v Speaker 2>working class middle of Highlands, middle class of Highlands who

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<v Speaker 2>are just trying to keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Their head above water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, coming out of four years of bidonomics.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and if it does cost some belt tightening and columbus,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's good. That's always a good thing. Donovan and Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>Americans for Prosperity Call to action. How can my listeners

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<v Speaker 1>help out and advance this in the Senate?

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<v Speaker 2>Buckeye Blueprint dot Com slash soo s Buckeye Blueprint dot

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for helping people get involved. Americans for Prosperities, Donovan

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<v Speaker 1>and Neil, Buckeye Blueprint dot com s slash soos. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to having another conversation. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>This moves forward and makes the state of Behigh more competitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for always having me, Brian, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it, man. I appreciate what you're doing out

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<v Speaker 1>there too. Seven thirty six Congressman Warren Davidson Ready to

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