Speaker 1: Thirty here I fifty bot KRC Detalk station, A very
Speaker 1: heavy Wednesday to you. Always welcome the return of Donald
Speaker 1: and Neil from Americans for Prosperity, helping you help us
Speaker 1: get good positive things happening in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Donald and Neil, welcome back, my friend. Good to hear
Speaker 1: from you today, Brian, great to be with you again.
Speaker 1: And another great idea to save our salary Campaign AFPs
Speaker 1: launched this to support a two point seventy five percent
Speaker 1: flat tax. That sounds like a step in the right direction. Donovan,
Speaker 1: what's this going to mean if it's.
Speaker 2: Past Well, yeah, so you know we've mentioned this on
Speaker 2: the show before. Right, Ohio continues to be ranked in
Speaker 2: the middle of the pack in the number of policy
Speaker 2: areas economic competitiveness. Tax rates are one of those areas
Speaker 2: where we're thoroughly mediocre, and we have the opportunity here
Speaker 2: right to put through the state budget process. This is
Speaker 2: what we're doing right now, to call in the state
Speaker 2: Senate to get this done, to move Ohio from a
Speaker 2: top marginal rate of three point five percent to a
Speaker 2: flat tax of two point seventy five percent. It would
Speaker 2: be the lowest in the region. It would put us
Speaker 2: an competitive foothold, and most importantly, Brian for the promises
Speaker 2: these politicians have been making for decades now would get
Speaker 2: us best position to begin that march to a zero
Speaker 2: percent income tax, so we can be like Texas, Tennessee
Speaker 2: and Florida and reap the benefits of good, sound, fiscal
Speaker 2: conservative policies in the state.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know there's arguments against this, and
Speaker 1: Republicans dominate Columbus across the board, yet they typically don't
Speaker 1: do the right thing, at least in terms of traditional
Speaker 1: Republican party platform things, which would mean something like this.
Speaker 1: So where's the pushback coming from and what are the
Speaker 1: reasons that are articulated for the pushback, Like we can't
Speaker 1: afford to cut this to two seventy five. I'm sure
Speaker 1: somebody's making that argument.
Speaker 2: Donovan. Well, that's the nice thing about our opponents on
Speaker 2: this issue is their talking points, their tactics haven't changed.
Speaker 2: The tactic is, yeah, it's hey, we can't afford this.
Speaker 2: We've got all these services we have to provide. It
Speaker 2: would be catastrophic to the state. To those folks. What
Speaker 2: I point out, especially on the state income tax, you know,
Speaker 2: your roads and bridges are already paid for, Brian through
Speaker 2: your gas tax. Right, you're lost loop, Well, I'd like.
Speaker 1: To see the numbers on that, Donovan O'Neill. How much
Speaker 1: did they actually take in in taxes from the gasoline
Speaker 1: tax which was raised by the wine if I recall correctly,
Speaker 1: versus how much has actually spent out there on the
Speaker 1: roads what they claim the total of projects are cost
Speaker 1: Because I know a lot of complaints out in the
Speaker 1: world about the situation on our roads out there.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but what I do know is they
Speaker 2: keep working on this same stretch of highway by my
Speaker 2: house over and over and over again every year. So
Speaker 2: I don't know where if they just can't get it
Speaker 2: read the first time, or what it might be. But
Speaker 2: that's a fair question the effectiveness of it. And I
Speaker 2: think that's an important reason why you also want a
Speaker 2: flat tax. Right. The collection on a flat tax versus
Speaker 2: a progressive tax, the compliance not just for the state
Speaker 2: but for the taxpayer goes down significantly. Right, if it's
Speaker 2: one flat rate two point seventy five percent. You know,
Speaker 2: if you made I'm bad at math. I'm notoriously bad
Speaker 2: at math, Brian, Right, but you made you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred bucks in a year, two dollars and seventy five
Speaker 2: cents is going to go to Columbus. You don't need
Speaker 2: a CPA to tell you that. You just have to
Speaker 2: do some very simple fourth grade maybe now seventh grade
Speaker 2: math given our education quality this country. But well, it's
Speaker 2: the very simple math to figure that out. And so
Speaker 2: the compliance costs for individuals, employees, businesses drops, the state
Speaker 2: gets generally sees a higher share. We see this on
Speaker 2: the federal level with the Trump tax cuts. When they
Speaker 2: simplified the federal tax code, more money came in. Not
Speaker 2: because people were happy to pay more taxes, it was
Speaker 2: easier to comply, and so that the government the people
Speaker 2: got a better share of the money that was needed
Speaker 2: to be owed to the government. It's kind of walk crazy,
Speaker 2: but it make it works. So that's the idea behind
Speaker 2: this is simplify the tax code, make Ohio competitive, and
Speaker 2: really put us on a path to excellence.
Speaker 1: All right, I trust all how it has a version
Speaker 1: of the CBO of the the numbers and the impact
Speaker 1: on two point seventy five percent versus I. Honestly, Donovan,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what our current tax rate is
Speaker 1: in Ohio.
Speaker 2: Well, we're down to two brackets two point seventy five, well,
Speaker 2: zero percent up to the first twenty six thousand dollars
Speaker 2: you earn. After that you have a two point seventy
Speaker 2: five percent rate up to around ninety seven ninety eight
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on the income for an individual or a
Speaker 2: married filing jointly, and then above that ninety seven or
Speaker 2: so thousand dollars is a three point five percent rate.
Speaker 2: And so this is something right too, that our opponents
Speaker 2: will make arguments about in saying, well, this is only
Speaker 2: going to benefit the wealthiest of the wealthy, right, the rich,
Speaker 2: the rich folks, the twelve billionaires maybe we have living
Speaker 2: in Ohio, right, But the reality is, you can very easily,
Speaker 2: in a simple family of four, right, a father who's
Speaker 2: maybe a police officer and a mother who's a teacher,
Speaker 2: with a few years of experience, easily get to that
Speaker 2: top marginal rate right over ninety seven thousand dollars right
Speaker 2: filing jointly. And so this getting to a flattox, the
Speaker 2: two point seven percent truly helps allow highlands, especially those
Speaker 2: working class middle of Highlands, middle class of Highlands who
Speaker 2: are just trying to keep.
Speaker 1: Their head above water.
Speaker 2: Yep, coming out of four years of bidonomics.
Speaker 1: Well, and if it does cost some belt tightening and columbus,
Speaker 1: then that's good. That's always a good thing. Donovan and Neil,
Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity Call to action. How can my listeners
Speaker 1: help out and advance this in the Senate?
Speaker 2: Buckeye Blueprint dot Com slash soo s Buckeye Blueprint dot
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Speaker 1: Thanks for helping people get involved. Americans for Prosperities, Donovan
Speaker 1: and Neil, Buckeye Blueprint dot com s slash soos. I'll
Speaker 1: look forward to having another conversation. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Speaker 1: This moves forward and makes the state of Behigh more competitive.
Speaker 2: Thanks for always having me, Brian, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it, man. I appreciate what you're doing out
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