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<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty two. Happy Wednesday to you, Judge Ennen of Platona.

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<v Speaker 1>One hour on tariffs and the legality of tariffs, at

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<v Speaker 1>least the way Donald Trump's doing it should be rather interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to that, it's the best one two punch in

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<v Speaker 1>Radio with Congressman Thomas Messi joining us to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Dual Loyalty Disclosure Act as well as the country

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<v Speaker 1>of origin labeling. Can we get that back and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get a comment or two on tariffs from him

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<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, Welcome back to the fIF You have

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Morning Show from Americans for Prosperity, Donovan and Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have you on, Brian, always good to be

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<v Speaker 1>with you. So we got a big event coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on Palm Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, we sure do. It's a fiscal sanity rally,

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<v Speaker 2>something I think our country is in dire need of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let me get your reaction real quick before we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the details on that. He saw all the

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<v Speaker 1>insanity going on over the weekend. Did you watch any

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<v Speaker 1>of the videos of the people at these crazy rallies

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<v Speaker 1>being in viewed and asked exactly what their problem was

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<v Speaker 1>with Elon Musk, the work that Doge is doing, or

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump generally. I mean, did you come across with

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<v Speaker 1>any clear idea of what the hell they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>or protesting about Donovan?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know one one no, and this is I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to wind up for something. There.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really clear. And you know, here's something I

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<v Speaker 2>think is important to keep in mind, right, especially as

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<v Speaker 2>you look at different election results that just came in.

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<v Speaker 2>There definitely is a number of folks out there who

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<v Speaker 2>are who are frustrated, who are upset or angry. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think here's what's key is they don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>they are. They're just being told from progressive organizations that

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<v Speaker 2>they should be upset with what's going on. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what we've got to make sure we're doing, Brian Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're a great megaphone for this in Southwest Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>is connects folks to the importance of what Doge, what

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<v Speaker 2>the President, what the new Republican majority Washington are getting

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<v Speaker 2>done right. They're raining and the spending, they're working to

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<v Speaker 2>create policies. They're going to put more money in people's

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<v Speaker 2>pockets and unleash opportunity here in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that the best way to combat that

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<v Speaker 2>that nonsensical frustration that some folks seem to be having

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<v Speaker 2>out there is connected to what these positive impacts are,

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<v Speaker 2>because I can tell you sure tech they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a clear vision for the future of this country, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's key as well. But I'm got to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure we're staying out there and staying on message, because

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<v Speaker 2>they got a lot of visibility over the weekend, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you scratch beneath the surface, it really ain't that great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, And I think the visibility didn't do a much

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<v Speaker 1>given much credibility because you know, I heard over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again one of the main criticisms on their pre

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<v Speaker 1>printed list of talking points, which didn't provide any really

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental explanation for why they were screaming about medicaid. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're going to take medicaid away for me,

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<v Speaker 1>they're taking Medicaid away. I mean, my retort has been

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<v Speaker 1>over and over no, look at what dough is uncovered.

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<v Speaker 1>One point three million and illegal immigrants got put in

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<v Speaker 1>the medicaid roles, and there's countless billions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>fraud in the Medicaid system which Doge is revealed. To

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<v Speaker 1>the extent you get rid of that illegal activity and

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<v Speaker 1>those fraudulent or erroneous payments, you are going a long

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<v Speaker 1>way to saving the program. I mean, Doge in the

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<v Speaker 1>administration is doing the exact opposite of what they're accusing

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<v Speaker 1>them of, which frustrates the living hell out of me

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<v Speaker 1>that they're so clueless that they don't realize.

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<v Speaker 2>That we all pay taxes, right, we all should expect

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<v Speaker 2>that the tax dollars that go to Washington, DC are

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<v Speaker 2>hard earned. Money that goes to Washington, DC is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be spent well and spent efficiently. Right nobody's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about ending these programs. Nobody's talking about cutting these programs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about making these programs run more efficiently so

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<v Speaker 2>that the population that depends on them, our neighbors and

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<v Speaker 2>friends who depend on these programs, have the ability to.

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<v Speaker 1>Access to them.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about whether these programs should exist in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place of the time. Right now, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about making sure these programs are run efficiently. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's something every tax paying American citizen should applaud.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally happening for the first time in ages in Washington DC.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, approaching government the way private businesses would approach it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got too many of these departments. We've got too

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<v Speaker 1>much middle management. It's costing the shareholders a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>We can run a more efficient operation, provide the same,

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<v Speaker 1>if not better goods and services with less, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>allocate the money to better products and goods and services.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how a successful business runs. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that is not how government runs. And

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<v Speaker 1>this administration, at least for seeming the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>my lifetime, is revealing that and doing something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've got the big event coming up on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to talk about that. We'll bring Donovan and

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<v Speaker 1>Neil for Americans for Prosperity back working with Restoring Liberty

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<v Speaker 1>dot Us seven fifty five KARCD talk station. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>having a half e Wednesday, Thomas Massey after the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the air news Judge and Paulatano at eight thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and then doctor j Russo, my good friends doing a

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<v Speaker 1>making America Healthy Again power you seminar tonight and you

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<v Speaker 1>can join it. I'm sorry tomorrow night you can join

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<v Speaker 1>in the fund with that. We'll learn about that coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, Donovan and Neil for Americans for Prosperity

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<v Speaker 1>teaming up at Restore Liberty dot Us. The rally that

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<v Speaker 1>we're having this Sunday. Where is it when the door

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<v Speaker 1>opens and what are we going to be talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are we going to be hearing from? Donovan and'neil

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<v Speaker 1>dan Well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're partnering with the great folks at Restore Liberty and

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<v Speaker 2>George I've been on the show talking about and I

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<v Speaker 2>know you know George Well, they got a one heck

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<v Speaker 2>of an operation there with Restore Liberty. These folks are

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<v Speaker 2>getting together working hard to ensure conservative liberty oriented principles

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<v Speaker 2>are happening in Southwest lives. So we're partner with them,

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<v Speaker 2>partners empower you and Americans for Prosperity to offer a

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<v Speaker 2>fiscal sanity rally and the lead up to that day

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<v Speaker 2>that every bureaucrat marks on the calendar and counts down

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<v Speaker 2>for Tax Day April fifteenth, But we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>together April thirteenth. They're at the Double Tree in blue

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<v Speaker 2>Ashelan Kemper Road. Double Tree in Blue Ashland, East Kemper Road.

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<v Speaker 2>Doors open at four point thirty. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>dinner buffet. Program will begin at six o'clock and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get together again talking about fiscal sanity, recognizing that we're

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<v Speaker 2>at a critical inflection point with this country, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at our national debt, you're looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>waste and abuse in our in our federal government, even

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<v Speaker 2>on the state local level, making sure we're remaining fiscally

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<v Speaker 2>sane at those levels as well. We're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it all. It's gonna be a great opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>get plugged into what's going on, identify some action items

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<v Speaker 2>that you can as a you know, as a participant,

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<v Speaker 2>take part in to make sure that from our state, local,

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<v Speaker 2>federal government levels, we're driving fiscal sanity up and down

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<v Speaker 2>the ladder. Because this is about the future of our

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<v Speaker 2>our country. It's about the future of our our for

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<v Speaker 2>our children, and that's what we're gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this Sunday. There's a double Tree on East Kemper Road,

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<v Speaker 2>doors open at four thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'm looking at the notes from Restored

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty dot us and in explaining what's going on on,

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<v Speaker 1>you left out a critical word when you were referring

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner buffet. It says complementary dinner buffet. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to get people in the doors man, you can. It's

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<v Speaker 1>free food and all this wonderful discussion about fiscal responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just trying to increase the num. Reveal who

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<v Speaker 1>can make it, and I'll be honest with you. George

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<v Speaker 1>Brunneman from Restoring Liberty dot Us did invite me, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a Palm Sunday meal at my mom's that

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<v Speaker 1>was already on the calendar and family comes first, So

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<v Speaker 1>sadly I will not be able to make it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's going to be an extraordinary event. Any

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<v Speaker 1>and George and others.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're putting together a number of locals. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they've fully released the list yet, at least they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't given it to me yet, but I would say register,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get updates. We're expecting a packed house, a good crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>a great program, and if you care about fiscal sanity,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to get in a fight and help

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<v Speaker 2>push back against some of the craziness that you saw

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend around Entry, this is the place to

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<v Speaker 2>be we're gonna be We're gonna be talking fiscal sanity,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be talking making the Trump tax cuts permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the kind of stuff we need to

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and of course that's going to require engagement from

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the whole process with the reconciliation, and

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<v Speaker 1>you do you have any insight or thoughts about that

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so we've always known it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a tenuous situation, right when you bring Congress is famous

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a tenuous situation here. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know, the House is done, it's vote. Senate

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<v Speaker 2>it's done, it's vote. It's a long winding road to

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<v Speaker 2>work through this convoluted reconciliation process. Congress and Vassy can

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<v Speaker 2>key is is everything's moving along as need and with

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<v Speaker 2>a number of our staff at an annual retreat and

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<v Speaker 2>some of our federal government affairs. For folks who lobby

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<v Speaker 2>on the Hill, what they've been saying is this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually moving along a bit faster than folks were expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's a good sign. The grassroots

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<v Speaker 2>pressure is key here right continuing to send the message

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<v Speaker 2>to Washington, to your elected officials, this is what we

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<v Speaker 2>sent you there to do, to unleash energy abundance, to

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<v Speaker 2>secure and front our border, and most importantly, unleash prosperity

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<v Speaker 2>by making permanent the Trump tax cuts, the one big

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful bill of Senate got done, you know, started to

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<v Speaker 2>have a vote procedural vote on over the weekend. Move

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<v Speaker 2>that ball down the line, gets that much closer to

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's desk, And ultimately what's important is relief, much

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<v Speaker 2>needed relief for Americans who have experienced four years of

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<v Speaker 2>Bidenomics and are ready for that to end.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I'll tell you what one thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>and not only restore liberty, but restore senate our energy policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Trump's embraced this all the above approach, even

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<v Speaker 1>talking about bringing back coal. But abundant and inexpensive energy

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't cost as much to you know, heat and

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning your house. That frees up money which otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>can go to the economic engine of this country. And

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<v Speaker 1>we have stood in the way of energy policy for

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<v Speaker 1>so long under this climate change crap. And my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>favorite point on that is just standing in the way

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<v Speaker 1>of pursuing modular nuclear technology, which is, you know, it's efficient,

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<v Speaker 1>it's small footprint, it generates just infinite amounts of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many of these environmental alarmists standing the

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<v Speaker 1>way of nuclear keeps screaming about three mile Island in

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<v Speaker 1>Cherniobil as if the technology is the same as it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the nineteen seventies. No, it's not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the answer to their concerns about carbon dioxide

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<v Speaker 1>aka tree food, and it exists now and we can

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what they're screaming about in terms

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, who was against cheap abundant energy, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that modular nuclear is the right thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know in Columbus they're working on energy legislation. Here

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio, we're going to have once this legislation gets

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<v Speaker 2>to the governor's desk. The goal here is to get

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<v Speaker 2>site approved within forty five days. So if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>state of Ohio, the state of Ohio on its end

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<v Speaker 2>of the approval process, we'll get that done in forty

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<v Speaker 2>five days. The bet there is to put more pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on the federal government. And we've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>allies at that level now, right, But yeah, put that

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on the federal government to get these products, to

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<v Speaker 2>fix the EPA, to fix its federal permitting processes so

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<v Speaker 2>we can get energy generated, bring down that cost for Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a big key part of manufacturing too, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>how to have abundant, affordable energy to make manufacturing makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense in the United states again, and so across the board,

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<v Speaker 2>consumers to manufacturers to business. It all matters. Energy is

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly is. And I had a conversation on the

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<v Speaker 1>Morning show the other day with vivig Ramaswami, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he is on board with everything you've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, So he sounds like the right man for

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<v Speaker 1>the job. He's all in favor of lowering taxes, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully getting rid of income taxes in the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio to level the playing field with those other states

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<v Speaker 2>It warms my heart brand to here folks this early

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<v Speaker 2>in the process talking about the future Ohio in such

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<v Speaker 2>a way right where we're going to yes, well that

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation isn't about how much we're going to grow

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<v Speaker 2>government the state of Ohio. The conversation looking at twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six is about what are we going to cut,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we going to change, what are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to do to transform Ohio to b the economic engine

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<v Speaker 2>not just as the Midwest but of the country, and

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<v Speaker 2>most importantly moved from middle in the Midwest to number

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<v Speaker 2>one in the nation. These big, bold ideas that folks

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about, I think we're critical and we like it.

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<v Speaker 1>At AFP.

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<v Speaker 2>We like the fact that folks are talking about elimiting

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<v Speaker 2>the income text because that's what we think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to take to really put Ohio on the map and

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<v Speaker 2>make folks look here to site their projects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed so Double Tree Blue Ash sixty three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>we always end, if folks want to get engaged, get

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<v Speaker 1>want to turn them to, Donovan, Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to go to protect prosperity dot com. Protect prosperity

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. That's the key for all the stuff we're

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<v Speaker 2>working on on that national level, like we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about today, Protect prosperity dot com. Until we talk again, donald'neil,

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<v Speaker 2>have a wonderful event on Sunday. I'll look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>our next conversation and keep up the great work with AFP.

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<v Speaker 2>Really appreciate it. Thanks Brian, take

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<v Speaker 1>Care of my brother seven fIF