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Dogman Encounters dot com Forward Slash podcast. Growing up, we've

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all been warned against doing various things for our own good.

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Your parents might have warned you about going to this

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place or that place. Don't do this for whatever reason.

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Wall Tonight's Guest had a grandfather who used to warn

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him about going to a particular water hole in Queensland,

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Australia where he grew up, because the local said that

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there was a monster that lived there and if you

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were there after dark, your safety was in jeopardy. Locals

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back then and still present day they would go to

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the water hole and swim and hang out and all

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that during the day, but once you got close to

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dusk they were packing up and heading out their big time.

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And then by the time that night had fallen, the

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place was a ghost town. And it's still that way.

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Like I said, and also, like I said, that's for

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a reason. But it's a reason that Tonight's guest is

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going to come on and tell us all about well

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without any further Ado. Let's bring him in here so

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he can do that. Tonight's guest is Sam Guisler. Sam,

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thanks so much for coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, jeez, Vick, nice to have me on Mike.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for being here. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Sam.

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Speaker 2: Please give us a brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wells Vick said me. I'm Sam. Grew up just

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south of Bunderberg, and growing up we always told from

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my grandfather not to camp at the Bunya Pole, which

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we didn't listen to and we found out. Yeah, I'm

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twenty nine year old. I've got a couple of kids

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and still go out in the bush now. Just love

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being out there, But since the experience, I'm a lot

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more wary on what goes on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand why you would be. How far

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did you grow up from the Bunya Pool.

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Speaker 1: So we were about three hour drives, so about one

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hundred and one hundred and sixty mile. I think it

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works out to be converting from kilometers.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you have to have a place like that around,

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I guess it's a lot better to be three hours

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from it by car then to be right next to it.

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So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely, Vick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely is. How iolated is the bunyip?

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Speaker 1: Paul?

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Speaker 2: You said it's about three hours from where you grew up,

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but how I slated?

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Speaker 1: Is it? So the town near it's got about it's

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probably a couple of thousand people lived. Oh, wouldn't even that,

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Maybe a thousand people spread out across a large area,

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small little harb if you blink when you going through

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the town, if you blink, you miss it. And it's

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about forty five minutes further out than that on a

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dirt road.

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Speaker 2: So it is pretty isolated. Then, well, we've already established

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the fact that your grandfather used to warn you about

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going there, But you think that might be because he

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might have had an experience there of his own with

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the bun yip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so after us talking on the print of view,

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I'm starting to believe that he did. On how much

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he warned us, and how angry he was that when

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I told him that I camped there and I saw something,

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and yeah, so I'm starting to believe that he he

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did have an experience in his youth.

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Speaker 2: You're starting to believe that he had one in his youth,

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or at least sometime now, But back then when he

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would tell you and try to warn you to stay

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away from the bunny pool, did you believe him?

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Speaker 1: Not? Really, we would not have kids. Oh, I saw

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the stories we were told were just just to put

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fear and the kids so that kids didn't gue down

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the crank and aught Tom and Dram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it could blame you for thinking that.

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I mean, parents, grandparents, They tell us so many things

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like that that aren't true, but to try and protect

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our safety, to try and protect us. So who could

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fault you for not believing that? I mean, after all,

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as we grow up, we're programmed to believe that there

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are no such things as monsters walking around out there.

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But unfortunately, you and your buddies you found out that's

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not true that one night when you decided to try

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your hand at camping there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we did, we definitely did. An I'm glad we

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had the rifle we had with us and that we

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were well enough mine to get out of there when

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we did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness for that. How long of stories about

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the Bunyan been around?

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Speaker 1: Do you know a long time? Mate? My grandfather would

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be seventy four, and the stories are around before him

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so they'd probably go back to Aboriginal time before the

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European colonization of Australia.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is a long time. I'm sure it's a

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long shot. But do you have any idea where the

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name Bunyip came from?

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Speaker 1: So the Bunyant name come from Aboriginal law. It's the

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man called Bunyip was taking the women and children from

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the Rainbow serpent. The rainbow sevens wives and children. The

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rainbow serpent cursed him into the Bunyant, into the bill Bong,

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and he was to forever live in the Bunyan as

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a Bunyan to take women and children.

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Speaker 2: When you've got a monster rooming around. There are certain

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names that really strike fear in your heart. But the

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name Bunya doesn't sound all that frightening when people, when

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locals hear that name, though, I'm sure it shakes them

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up pretty badly, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you got the old locals or the old

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the old copies yet there, you talk about the Bunya

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pole and they yeah, no, don't go there. And if

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you talk to the young ones, they are like, oh

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it's a great swimmen, how we go there all the time?

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Speaker 2: If people are that afraid of the Bunyip though. One

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thing I just can't wrap my mind around is if

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they know that there's a monster that is there at

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any time, whether it's normally just at night or whatever.

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It still gets me that so many of the people,

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so many of the locals, will actually still go there

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during the daylight hours. That's hard to wrap your mind around.

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Have you ever been to the Bunya Pole before you

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had that encounter that night?

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Speaker 1: We drove past it once when a kid.

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Speaker 2: How'd that go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Fine, we were just cruising along and we had

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my granddad in the car and he was drinking, and

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we're going out to where the old old families found

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used to be at there and hey, guys, that's the

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bunny poll there boy. And we just kept driving so huh.

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Speaker 2: Pretty uneventful. Thank goodness for that too.

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Speaker 1: It was probably about I don't know, and I just

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remember looking at them and they go, oh yeah, okay, cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you were in the car, so it's not

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like anything that notable could happen. So you're in a

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surprise there, all right, Sam, Please tell us all about

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this encounter now, give us ever last detail that comes

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to mind.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go back to when we were first ever

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told about it. As kids were sitting around with my

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grandfather and me and me two little brothers. He was drinking.

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We were just drinking their apple juice, sitting around the fire,

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rice and marshmall with him. He started telling us we

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go stories and all that of the bunyarp yew he's

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feather footch a man, all that sort of stuff. And

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we were listening to the one about the Bunyap and

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he said that no matter how hard you used to

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drive cattle to it, they'd always split up around it

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and meet up on the other side and continue on.

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And anyone that's worked with cattle before they know that,

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no matter how hard you push them, they go to water. Well,

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these cows that always split up and met on the

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other side of the water and not go near it.

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Ourboriginals will not camp there, they will not stay there.

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They will go swimming there during the day, but as

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soon as that sun starts going down there out. So

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that's that's the backstory to it. It was about two

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thousand and twenty thirteen, some of twenty thirteen, was it yeah, thirteen.

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It was after all the floods, So it was we're

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out that way the radio, just me and one of

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my mates, Chris, were out there. Met a few girls

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from out there we've met a couple of times running

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around the radio stuff, and we were talking about the

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buny Pie. I don't even remember how we got on

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the subject of it, you mate. Chris had never heard

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of it. He grew up in Shielder's area. So we're like, oh,

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we've got camping there, and the girl's like, oh no,

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don't camp there. Rather stories. I'm like, I'm just trying

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to be tough and trying to repress them, like nothing

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scares us. We were right, we've got the rifle with

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us and it comes out. So the weekend, after we've

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loaded up the yute, I mean, Chris gone out there,

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picked up the girls on the way out, got out there,

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set up camp, swimming, drinking, hunting pigs. It was a

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great time. It was a beautiful day, really warm, so

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we spent a lot of time in the water the

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whole time during the day. Did not get a weird

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feeling once. It was just you're just sitting in straight

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out back, drinking beer and swimming. It was a great time.

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We had really really good time. Then the sun start

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going down. We went for another little bit of a hunt,

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got a few more pigs, come back to the camp,

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got the fire going, sitting around, cooked up, cooked up

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some dinner, and then about eleven o'clock at night, everything

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went quiet, like dead quite everything, the fire, even the

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fight that sat out, the crackle of the fire, even

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that went really quiet. That all the cadas in the bush,

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they all died off, all of everything. And I've just

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looked at you, mate, Chris, and I'm like, what's going

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on here? Just got the feeling inside that something's wrong,

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We're not safe. And then we've just pushed through, like yeah,

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should be right, sh be right? Then, about fifty meters

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down from where we were sitting. So yeah, a bit

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forty five fifty yards away from where we were sitting.

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of the bloody water hole on all fours. And we

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thought it was someone that was with us earlier, just

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trying to stir us up. So I'm like, oh, yeah, right,

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a smart a hahaha, you real thought, sorry, right, smarty,

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you're real funny grabbed the rifle where it was two

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two three rifle led around off in the air. This

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thing stood up. And when this thing stood up, the

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feeling I had inside my stomach was we are in danger,

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but something is This thing is here to hurt us.

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So it stood up. It's got bright amber eyes and

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black like it was blacker than black. You could see

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it like it was a full moon night. You could

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see it and it was glowing and it was that black,

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And that makes sense, like it was just just staring

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at us. The easiest way I can explain how it looked.

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you put another meter and a half another another four

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foot taller, same with shoulders, just massive bloke just standing

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there and you hear this crowd. And at that point

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I've just put one in the chamber and sent it

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straight down at it, got it in the chest, probably

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out there. I've hit it with the with the round

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and it's made it's gone from a ground like a

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low grow to a raw and I've just gone to mate,

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get in the car. He's jumped in the ute. The

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girls that we had with us, they it was like

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they were in a trance. They just they were nothing.

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They couldn't see, They didn't know why we were stressing

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or why we were shooting. They couldn't see or feel anything.

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They were just in a trance and felt like going

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for a swim is what they was. Literally what Michelle said,

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she wanted to go for a swim. So we've put

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them in the car. I've jumped in the tray of

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the yute. I've got the spotlight on the roof of

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the ute swung around at it, and that's when I

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saw it in everything. It was the have you caught

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fur or hair on It was glowing like it was

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just shiny, black, pristine, like when you get a dog

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and you feed a dog heaps of eggs to get

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their coat shiny. That's what the coat looked like on

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this scene, the teeth on it, the claws, everything. And

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I've just let loose the gun we had with us,

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had at five rounds in the magazine. I've let another

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two go at it. CRUs has taken off in the

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car and the yute and I'm just bouncing in the

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back of the trail with the spotlight shining. The thing's

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chasing us, and I'm just letting rounds go as quick

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as I can load them. When I run out on

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the fifth one, we've hit the dirt road the main

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road and just high tailed it out there with Yeah,

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pupping ourselves would be the best way to explain how

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we're feel them. It was. Yeah, Well I didn't mention before,

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but the smell when it come out of the water,

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the smell, it smelt like a cheap motel, like real moldy,

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real musky, mildewy, sort of just you walk in your

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Oh Jesus Christ. But yeah, that's so. That's the basic,

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basically the gist of my first experience. We've had a

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couple more, not anything like that, but a couple more

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times I've seen stuff in the bush. One was a yowie.

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One could have been another buny of experience, but I

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didn't see it. Just felt something in the smell, just

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felt the the same, what primal, primal knowledge of you're

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in trouble. I've come face to face with crocodiles, coastal

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coastal type hands, brown snakes on a daily basis, and

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I've never been scared of them. I've never been How

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I was that, Yeah, that's that's about the gist of it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's intense. What more can you tell us about

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that other experience you.

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Speaker 1: Had so another time? So I'm just that's brought back

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memories I didn't think were there.

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Speaker 2: No take your time, there's no rush.

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Speaker 1: So back to the abaginal law of it. The bunnet

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live in little bongs or water holes, and they all

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the water holes that they live in attached to the

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Argisina basin, and so any water hole around could have

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one in it. There's been a few times we've been

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out hunting near near a creek or near a billabong

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and you'll get that smell and that feeling again and

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just nothing like that grow but similar. And here's a

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good deep growl off in the distance. And since that experience,

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I just I don't go looking now. If I hear something,

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I'm say, yep, no worries. You stay over there, bruss

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And I'm going to keep going this way and we'll

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continue on. And yeah, the he's wanted the yeah we

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experienced some to tell that one is well made.

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Speaker 2: Sure please do.

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Speaker 1: So we're out with Danny h rou shooting one of

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one of my dad's friends. Just he's got a license

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to cold the kangaroos that are in throughout areas to

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keep the population down so they don't outbreed themselves and

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end up killing themselves and destroying all the farmer's crops

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and eating their way through everything. So we're out there

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shooting rus. We skin them because he used those cells

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the skins. You need to sell skins on meat that

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time of year, and that sort of great conditions of

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meat in them are no good because there's full of worms.

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So we'll skin them and sleute the carcasses in the

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in the bloody round yards we had there, and you'll

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use the carcasses to get pigs in to get rid

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of the wild pigs. It was about three o'clock in

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the morning. We've just finished skinning in the last three

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there's probably about one hundred carcasses there we had, and

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we hear this off in the distance scream, and this

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old old original fellow we had with us, Hey, guys,

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Nina boys, was get out of here. Get then we've

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jumped in the utes and taken off what not in

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fear or anything. We've just if an old original fellow

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sold us you it's time to get out of there.

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It's time to get out of there. They know more

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about the Australian outpack than we will ever know. So

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we've all jumped in the utes and taken off and

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off in the distance, probably between fifty and fifty and

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eighty yards away from us, you can see these two big,

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probably ten foot tall figures moving across the bush, coming

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into where the round yard is. We've gone back in

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the morning. There's one hundred dead roofs that are all

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just vanished, gone, nothing left, not a bone or a scrap, nothing,

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And then just yeah, similar to the similar to the

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other Bunya experience I've had out in the bush and

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you just hear like a whoop or a groan or something,

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and you just hear rocks beIN thrown or sticks being

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thrown or something on two legs walking through the bush,

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and you just not much here in Australia, that big

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that's going to make those sorts of noises.

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Speaker 2: No, I'd seen not. And after having the bun you've

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encounter and then later on you go on and have

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a year encounter or encountered to Yawie's. You had to

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be wondering, am I a magnet for this sort of thing?

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Or what?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I'll put it down to open myself

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in silly situations. So I just I wouldn't grin called

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silly situations. You know, thetral bush is at VARs. There's

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that much audy that we don't really know about. And

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if you spend a little time out there, there's a

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fair chance you're going to come across something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say apparently so after your experiences, that's intense.

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When the bunyip stood up, how close was it to you?

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Speaker 1: About fifty yards?

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Speaker 2: I bet that felt like five feet.

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Speaker 1: He felt like he's down on top of us. If

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it come out closer, I don't think we would have

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made it out of there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I bet it felt that way after you shot it, though,

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how close did he get to you? Before you guys

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were actually able to leave the area.

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Speaker 1: After I shot it, it didn't move to start with.

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It just stood there and then roared. And once it

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roared and not and didn't go down, that's when we've

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got everyone in the car and bailed out. And as

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soon as we're in the back of the car, it

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was almost it was almost like it was giving us

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a chance to get away. Like you guys in America,

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do you guys have hide and Seek tiggy, so hide

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and seek tag where you play you someone goes hide

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for hide and seek and then you're fine and you

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gotta give a chance to run then chase them. Oh yeah,

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it was like that. It was like it gave us

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a chance to get into the car and then it

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was on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that fits a normal way of doing things, or

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make you think that they're going to come after you

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and rip you apart. But in almost every keys it

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becomes clear that they're just trying to either drive you

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out of the area or just trying to get a

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response out of you. So what happened that night it

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definitely fits. Now, after you drilled it in the chest

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with that round, it's hard to say what it would

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have done. But like you said, after you shot it,

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it still didn't advance on you.

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Speaker 1: It was well, it was almost like it had a

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look of surprise, like no one had shot it before.

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It was. Yeah, it was like it boots in the

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chest and then it just looked down and then looked

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up and then rolled and from when it roared to

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ut in the car was not very long.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is intense. And just to get this clear,

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you said it was about maybe a meter or so

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taller than Eddie Hall. Is Eddie about six six or

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is he close to seven?

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Speaker 1: I think six to six mate, So I put another

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full foot on top of Eddie Hall.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, that's big. They get bigger than that. Sounds

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like it was ten feet maybe here over ten feet tall.

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They do get bigger than that, right around the twelve

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foot range. But yeah, I mean a ten footer ten

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and a half footer. That seemed like the Eiffel Tower

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standing there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm only five ten and it was a

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lot bigger than what I am. Oh fot, I forgot

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dad before it come out, went really quiet. We heard

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bubbling in the creek like it was almost like it

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was boiling with the blah blah blooh. I don't know

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there was a thing to do with it, but if

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something's coming off the bottom of a creek, it's going

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to put air bubbles in the mud. So I don't

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know if they live, like if dog men or anything

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like that live in water, or it was just around

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the water and they come across, or they have their

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dens near the water or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I can't explain what happened that night, but I've got

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a possibility that I want to put out there for you.

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It just might explain what you witnessed. People claim to

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have seen underwater caves that sasquatch you've made, and I

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don't see why dogmen wouldn't be able to utilize them

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as well. It might be looking at a situation where

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it had access to a cave where it could travel

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from one place to the other, and then it knows

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about an opening someplace underwater so it can get into

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the water, come up and appear like it just came

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from the pond, from the water hole, like it's living

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in the water hole, when in fact it just used

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an underground cave to access the water. It walked up

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out of the pond, because that's basically the exit it

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was using for the cave system. And then for you guys,

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it seemed like it just magically appeared out of the water.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's well. That the bunyapolt itself is really deep.

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Like jumping off the top of the gum tree into

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the creek, you weren't touching bottom.

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Speaker 2: Are there any keeves in that area that you know.

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Speaker 1: Of, Yeah, there's a few. There's a few up in

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the bush there up in the hills. Well, no, nothing

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like the massive, big long caves or I think there's

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a few probably forty meters deep caves that I know of.

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But in saying that again, it's that vast out there

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and you wouldn't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a big area. How close would you see?

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The closest keve is that you know of to the bunyipaw.

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Speaker 1: Probably about eight hundred meters so quarter of them all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have to keep that close to the

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Bundy Pool, wouldn't be surprised if one of the caverns

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does lead underneath the water to the Bundy Pole. Yeah, yeah,

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that would definitely explain it. Then you said that it

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made the bubbling sound or you heard the bubbling sound

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as it surfaced, and then also when you drilled it

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with that bullet, how it roared at you. But in

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between the time when you first saw it and when

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you shot it, did it ever make any sounds that

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you heard?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Growl? Just the best waking spiners. We were fries

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all and walked up on a ding guy one tolament

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great us. It was just like a defensive you know

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when you walk up and solid dog and a greyous

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to let you know, don't come near me. Ollo. That

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was the only noise it made before it roared.

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Speaker 2: It was trying to get a point across, and yeah,

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they're really good at doing that. This might seem like

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a strange question, but did you ever see any spots

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on it?

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Speaker 1: Any spots like in the color?

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Speaker 2: That's right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and no, it was full black.

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Speaker 2: It was full black. How about a men and a teal?

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Did you see the one?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I didn't even take notes of its legs. I didn't.

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I thought I was more noticing from here up around

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the head. It was real bushy, like timing up with

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his neck. I hate to sound like everyone else. I

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hate to say like everyone else, but you know, like

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a German shepherd, when a German shepherds got one and

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it stands up in the her like its coats, real

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thick up near his head, that's what it looked like.

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I wouldn't say like a lion's mane where they got

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the big thing around and come down. There was nothing

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like that. It was just real puffy up near the head.

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And then from about midway down its head so where

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the ears so tell out the neck, it was very

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up to there, and then you had the ears up here,

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and then coming down was just short, per down to

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like a snout.

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Speaker 2: What position were its series in when you saw.

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Speaker 1: It straight up? Just straight up? Oh?

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Speaker 2: That did you know anything strange about it? Sears?

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Speaker 1: They were pointing straight at us like it was listening

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and taking note of everything we done.

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Speaker 2: Would you compare them to German shepherd eers, dobrimmin ears

474
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,079
or something else.

475
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Romano's bullet hair? Yeah, so like a staffy.

476
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: They had like a cropped luck.

477
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a short just not real long, just short

478
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:14,720
and just hiring on whatever hearing I see.

479
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of eyewitnesses report seeing ears like that

480
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,400
on them, so that fits.

481
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: Well.

482
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,759
Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the questions the listeners have

483
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,559
for you. The first one is from Monique, and her

484
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200
question is was the water clear or murky?

485
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,359
Speaker 1: Murky? Just just a muddy water?

486
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,559
Speaker 2: Well that just makes it that much creepier. That does

487
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,400
looks like Andreas Carrizales is the next one. He wants

488
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,480
to know was the waterhole always different? Where did the

489
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:46,160
stories just start happening?

490
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:52,359
Speaker 1: Oh? What what do you what do you mean by that? Man?

491
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: That makes two of us?

492
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the stories have always been around that section of

493
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
the river, that section of the creek. It's always been

494
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,079
around that area of the creek, so the cattle will

495
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,960
drink either end. I forgot to add in driving up

496
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,359
to it. But when we're driving up to it, you'll

497
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,359
get cow patties everywhere, like cattle tracks going through the

498
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,799
bush everywhere, kangaroo tracks everywhere. And the second you get

499
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:25,240
within a couple hundred meters of it, it all stops.

500
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,720
It's just grass, no cow poo or kangaroo poo or

501
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,880
anything like that. Just everything stops to git closer to it.

502
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,359
Speaker 2: Because they're all keeping away. That makes sense. Truth quest

503
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,519
wants to know, was this a bun yip where a

504
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,720
dog man? Well, apparently it's basically a nickname if they

505
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,759
have for an Australian dog man.

506
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. So after hearing a few of Vick stories and

507
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,119
then I sort after hearing a few of Vig's episodes

508
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,559
and another cryptic podcast, I listened to There's another Guy

509
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,000
in Australia and he was the one that gave me

510
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,279
the reference between the bunyip and the dog man, because

511
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,319
if you look at the pictures of the dog man, ah,

512
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,119
the pictures of the bunyanp it looks very similar to

513
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,759
what a dog man would look like like. It looks

514
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:21,599
it's got a dog shaped heads and massive, big, musty body.

515
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: Have you heard any stories about it actually attacking anyone?

516
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,039
Speaker 1: Nothing personal, nothing that I know, or someone being attacked,

517
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,640
but averaginal law is it takes women and children and

518
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,759
takes them to the bottom of the creek and drowns

519
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:43,960
them and all that sort of stuff. There is a

520
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,920
there is a song. I can't remember these things. It's

521
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,640
called the Bunyanp Hunter, and it's a story about an

522
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160
old stockman being attacked and taken by a bunyanp.

523
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: Not the kind of song that's going to give you

524
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:58,039
the warm and fuzzies.

525
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,559
Speaker 1: No, definitely, not when you bring chills up the spawn.

526
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,359
I just can't remember the name of it right now.

527
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say it would. Well, that's okay, because I've

528
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,319
another question for you, and this one is from truth Iris.

529
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,119
They want to know what was the caliber of the ammunition?

530
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,160
I think you told us.

531
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,559
Speaker 1: Already two two three.

532
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:20,839
Speaker 2: Two two three. Wow. Yeah, encountering something that big, I'd

533
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:22,799
hate to only have a two two three in my hands.

534
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,079
But you guys weren't expecting to have to do that,

535
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:26,559
so that makes sense.

536
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 1: No, it's big enough of pigs indeed, but that's a bit.

537
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get the job done with them. Not a

538
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:38,680
bunyip though. Looks like I've another question for you from

539
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:41,839
truth quest and he wants to know did it look

540
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,480
like it always stayed in water?

541
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:53,599
Speaker 1: Um? No, it didn't have gills. It looked it was Yeah, yeah,

542
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:58,759
it was very I didn't have gills, didn't have fish feet,

543
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,279
didn't have like duck cans or anything like that. It

544
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:05,680
looked like it was a bit of barth.

545
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: A lot of the listeners are posting questions without putting

546
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,840
them in all caps. It's making me hard. It's making

547
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,679
it hard for me to not miss some of them.

548
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,119
So yeah, if you have a question for Sam, please

549
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,800
do you type it in all caps for me. This

550
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,679
next one up is from Disney Mom next thirty five,

551
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,320
and she wants to know when it stood up, did

552
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960
you hear any popping or cracking sounds?

553
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:39,199
Speaker 1: No, nipopin n cracking. It was very, very smooth movements.

554
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well they don't always make popping and cracking sounds

555
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,280
when they stand up, so yeah, that doesn't have to

556
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,800
always be the case. This next question is from Jay

557
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Whitti's and they want to know. Of course, you told

558
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:59,800
us that you smelled that old hotel room smell after

559
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,199
you saw it, but they want to know, could you

560
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,679
smell anything before you saw the bun.

561
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:13,559
Speaker 1: Yep, no, just denied a smoke from the campfire and

562
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,880
that was it. And then once it went quiet, when

563
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,519
we saw smelling stuff. When that smell coming, it's just

564
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:23,920
like it wafted on the breeze.

565
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:28,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must have smelled awfully bad. This next question

566
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,719
is from Vladimir Seysil I believe this is his last name.

567
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,440
He wants to know how can be a hole in water?

568
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,079
How can there be a hole in water? I think

569
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,159
is what he means without being flooded. Well, it's the

570
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:47,360
same principle as a trap, like a trap under your sink.

571
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,639
If you have a cave system where the entrance dips

572
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,039
down and then comes back up high enough, then yeah,

573
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,639
you can have a situation like that where there's a

574
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,320
pond there and the cave system doesn't flood. I don't

575
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,599
know what that area is like around the Bunya pole,

576
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,199
but these guys, I'm sure they can hold their breath

577
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,679
for a long time, So it just depends on how

578
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440
far back that cave might be flooded away from the

579
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:21,400
Bunya pole, But it's definitely possible, it sure is. Were

580
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,079
you more strongly affected by that encounter? Sam or your friends.

581
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: Whenever sparked to the girls again, my Mike Chris Hey,

582
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:38,400
I haven't seen him for years now, probably year after

583
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,920
that was a lost on a saurium. I don't even

584
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:46,039
know where he is anymore. Hey went on some rampage

585
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,039
on when he wanted to go to Fall. Every cryptid

586
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,719
and striving wanted to catch him. Improved there existed just like, yeah,

587
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,440
let's leave alone.

588
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:58,079
Speaker 2: You know what they say about curiosity and cats, So

589
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:02,280
I can understand you seeing that looks like Disney Mo.

590
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,199
Next thirty five is another question for you. She wants

591
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,239
to know did you think it was flesh and blood

592
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,679
or something supernatural?

593
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,599
Speaker 1: Man? We had a conversation without this in the printerview.

594
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:23,360
I don't know. I I'm in two minds on that.

595
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,559
I think it's both, to be honest, I think they're

596
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:32,000
from I think they're from a different realm, and I

597
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,800
think they come here and leave here and come and

598
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,519
go as they please. They can take us from our realm,

599
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,559
but we can't take them. If that makes sense.

600
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,199
Speaker 2: You just might be right about that. Yeah. They do

601
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,559
so many things that are so hard to explain away conventionally,

602
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,800
so yeah, maybe they can do that. You just might

603
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,320
be right.

604
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: There's something the size of that and the weapons that

605
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,719
had on it, like the claws, the teeth, eyes, the

606
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,079
sheer body mass of it. It should have torn us apart.

607
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,320
It should have caught the you. It should have well,

608
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,440
the old, the old highluk. Shoot, she didn't do more

609
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,880
th naty ks. Now she was a slow old beast.

610
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,079
It should have grabbed hold of us and tore me

611
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,559
out of that train and ripped me with limb to limb.

612
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:21,840
But it didn't. So I don't I don't know what

613
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:26,760
they are. Yes, yeah, but when that bullet hit it

614
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,480
hit it some.

615
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,079
Speaker 2: It was probably so surprise that you actually shot it. Yeah,

616
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,639
but it's hard to see on that. You never really know.

617
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:41,760
It looks like the next question is up from Pemma,

618
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,480
and she wants to know. Did it communicate with you telepathically?

619
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: No? No, I've heard that. I've heard people say that

620
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:58,119
if you consider, well, if you consider feeling something, feeling

621
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:02,159
that you're in danger, feeling you are not welcome. I

622
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:08,239
guess you could say that's technically communicating telegone telepathically, but

623
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,440
apart from that, not really looks like.

624
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: The next one up is from Jimmy Murray, and Jimmy

625
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,840
wants to know, did you ever see glowing eyes in

626
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,360
the dark or heard of this from others.

627
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: At that situation at that time, or have I seen

628
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,760
lowne eyes in the past, Because I've seen lone eyes

629
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,840
in the past and that situation, it was weird. They

630
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:37,199
were real amber and they weren't glowing. It was like

631
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,679
a dull eye shine because of the full moon, but

632
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,119
like they were just like real yellowy, ambery eyes. And

633
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,360
then the second we hit it with the spotlight on

634
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,079
top of the ute, they lit up.

635
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: Did its head look disproportionately large for its body or

636
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:55,760
did it just fit size wise?

637
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Fit size was pretty much like it was. It wasn't

638
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480
what the head was so small or so big it was.

639
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:11,599
Everything looks like it was like a nervous like a newbis.

640
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: I see. Well. This next one is up from Andres Carizalez,

641
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,559
and he wants to know did the old timers ever

642
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,199
just ignore or flat out dismiss the stories.

643
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: I told the story from Old Thomas and Kao cockys

644
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,639
won't go there either, So kawkocky is the old old

645
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:34,760
cattle farmers. They won't go there. My grandfather he told

646
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,119
me about it, and he he was up me for

647
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:38,239
the rent for going there.

648
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: You said they're called cal cockers.

649
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Kaw cockys, So I just just cattle farmers.

650
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Huh. That's a funny name for him. I've never heard

651
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,440
that before.

652
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:56,079
Speaker 1: I guess you'd call them ranches over there.

653
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,639
Speaker 2: We do, Yeah, we do. Truth, I just wants to

654
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:02,800
know what was your first thought when you saw it.

655
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: My first thought was I saw it. Probably not. I

656
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:11,599
can't really say on here because it's not appropriate, but

657
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,320
it was if you pick up what I'm saying, that

658
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:14,880
was it.

659
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I understand. I get it. Looks like truth.

660
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,840
Quest wants to know. Also, so it's possible the dog

661
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,360
man has the den underwater tree root and it can

662
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,320
prey on what comes to drink.

663
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:37,159
Speaker 1: Could Well that's their crocodile's hunt, so I'm guessing so

664
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,760
might if they can hold their breath, Well, you look

665
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,079
at a hippopotamus. Hippopotamus can hold their breath, Yeah, like

666
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:46,079
a crocodile. Cap over just sort of comment comes to then, Yeah,

667
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,360
like a crocodile cave. Yeah, very much like you look

668
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,519
at the hippopotamus. How big their lungs are and how

669
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,519
people can hold their breath. This thing's a lot bigger

670
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,079
than us, but not as big as hippo. So I

671
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,119
reckon they can hold their breath for a very long time.

672
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot longer than we can. You already touched

673
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,360
on this. I think you pretty much answered this, But

674
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:09,920
just to cover my bases in case he's asking in

675
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,159
a different way than I'm thinking, Fred, I'm sorry. Fried

676
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,440
Iceberg wants to know was the eye shine reflective or

677
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,239
do you feel it was emanating directly from its size?

678
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,280
He said that the moon made its eyes shine more,

679
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,119
I think, But do you think they were actually emanating?

680
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:32,199
Speaker 1: Wit or I couldn't tell him, mate that the hell

681
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:34,719
how the moon was at not how broad it was

682
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,880
in the sky. It could have been emanating from the eyes,

683
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400
or it could have been showing off the moon. I

684
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,360
couldn't tell you, to be honest.

685
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,119
Speaker 2: Well, you do have so much on your mind. You're

686
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:47,480
doing good to know your own name, so you can't

687
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,880
be faulted for that. Andras Kirizalees wants to know. Was

688
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,280
the subject about the dog Man ever taboo to talk about.

689
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: Honestly, Matte, I didn't even know about the dog Man

690
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,880
until about twelve months ago. First ever heard, the first

691
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,519
one I ever heard was on Tony Merkle and then

692
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:08,400
that's led me down a let me down a rabbit

693
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,760
hole and let me de Vic's shows. And that's when

694
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,679
I've really started hearing about dog Men.

695
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: Well, it goes with that thing. I'm so glad you

696
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,360
found out about me and about the show. That's a

697
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,559
good thing. Pema has another question for you. She wants

698
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:25,039
to know do you have dreams about it or does

699
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:26,800
it basically leave you alone?

700
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,639
Speaker 1: Until I messaged Vic the other day about it to

701
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:36,400
bring my story out there, I hadn't really given it

702
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,800
much thought. After a message Vic about it is when

703
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,719
I really started remembering it and dreams of coming back.

704
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,159
And it's no longer dreams of that note, it's dreams

705
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:48,679
of me and my daughter out in the bush and

706
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,440
it coming out.

707
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:52,599
Speaker 2: Wow, that's not a good kind of dream to have.

708
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:58,639
Speaker 1: No knowing my terror of a daughter. She'll see and go.

709
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:04,679
Speaker 2: Oh, puppy, Yeah, hopefully not that wouldn't be good. The

710
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:08,079
next one on deck is from Moniqua, and she wants

711
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,320
to know did the girls ever snap out of their

712
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,920
trance that night and comment on what had just happened.

713
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: They snapped out their trance when we were favored away

714
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,480
from there, over a few k's away, they'd snapped out,

715
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,440
And even the next day we got back to one

716
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,639
of their places, it a bit an air and a

717
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,960
half off from where the Buny poll itself is, and

718
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,880
she doesn't remember anything. She just reckoned. We just got scared,

719
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,599
she has, Oh, I had big tough boys. You got

720
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,760
scared of a little the noise, And we're like, no,

721
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,280
did you not see that? Did you not? You know what?

722
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:47,960
We don't know what you're talking about.

723
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,559
Speaker 2: Huh, Yeah, that's a strange way to try and deal

724
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,400
with the experience. Or yeah, maybe she didn't see it.

725
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,880
It's hard to believe that she didn't see it, considering

726
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,320
all that happened, but I guess it's possible. Fried Iceberg

727
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,800
wants to know any thoughts as to whether this is

728
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,280
an engineered hybrid or a natural evolutionary animal.

729
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a long answer. I think both. I

730
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:24,280
think that there was something like my theory on them

731
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,679
that they are from another dimension, possibly Biblical, possibly from

732
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,039
the fallen angels, possibly from the Nephlin. Do I think

733
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,519
that there is governments in the world today that have

734
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:42,280
re engineered these and made something in the lab Do

735
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,840
that's basically gist there? It's they could be. There could

736
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,880
be a number of things. Mate. They I don't believe

737
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,039
they have always been engineered because there's too many stories

738
00:45:55,039 --> 00:46:01,199
about them from the past. Myth don't become missed because

739
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,079
someone has a well imagination. Myths become missed because there's

740
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:05,559
something there to start the myth.

741
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 2: I totally agree with everything you said. Yeah, a lot

742
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,360
of people try to explain this way. Is it being

743
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,920
a situation where all dog men were created in a laboratory,

744
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,960
But yeah, you consider all the order encounters that have

745
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,239
been documented. The first documented encounter with a dog man

746
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,679
stretches all the way back to eighteen eighty seven in

747
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,599
Wexford County, Michigan. You're going to tell me for those people,

748
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,679
Are you going to tell me that we're actually able

749
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,880
to create dog men in a test tube back then?

750
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,440
No way, we just didn't have the technology to do that.

751
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,960
But yeah, just like you said, I do believe today

752
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,639
present day, we've got dog men that have been around

753
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,239
from the beginning, and then you also have dog men

754
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,440
that were actually created in a test tube in a laboratory.

755
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: So the stories when they actually attack people, I believe

756
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,000
they're the ones that were genetically engineered.

757
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: You might be right. I'd be right about that. The

758
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,239
next one up is from truth Quest and they want

759
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,159
to know have you heard of the encounter on the

760
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:10,400
Barkley Range in Lisa's encounter in crumbin Valley.

761
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: That's episode forty crumbin Valley. I haven't heard the episode,

762
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,599
but I have heard of stuff in crumbin Valley near

763
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:21,360
the Gold Coast.

764
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:26,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lisa was the eyewitness for episode forty where she

765
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:28,480
came on and talked about several encounters that she and

766
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:31,360
her family had had in the crumbin Valley. If you

767
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,320
haven't listened to it yet, i'd recommend you check it

768
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,440
out Episode forty.

769
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,679
Speaker 1: Oh write that on next week at work. But I'll

770
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,599
definitely go back if there's someone in the Queens End

771
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,719
region that's had them like the Crumb and crumbin Valley's

772
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,679
Gold Coast. I think because I've only I've moved to Brisbane,

773
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,719
the Brisbane area in the last twelve months. But if

774
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,800
there's someone in the Gold Coast area, I'd love to

775
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,400
get in contact with him and talk to him.

776
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't be surprised, It wouldn't surprise in the

777
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,119
least someone from that area is listening to your show

778
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:07,280
and does one actually contact Yeah, if anyone listening is

779
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,280
in that area who would like to speak with Sam,

780
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,960
then yeah, please shoot me an email. Please send the

781
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:20,480
message to contact at Dogmanencounters dot com. The next one

782
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,079
on deck is from Donna Huff and she wants to

783
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:26,760
know before his encounter, did Sam ever feel eerie when

784
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,079
he would go to the Bunyapol.

785
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: No. So, the first one went there, we didn't actually

786
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,599
stop there. We drove past it. Second time I went there,

787
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:39,119
when we had the encounter during the day, there was

788
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:44,840
no eerie feelings. There was no no fee, there was nothing.

789
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,760
It was a really great time an en You're all

790
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,199
guys with a few girls with us and having a

791
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,719
really good time. We were feeling on top of the world.

792
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,639
We felt like we were invincible. A little bit of

793
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,360
showing off doing backflip off gum trees in the creek,

794
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:04,840
just being young young.

795
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: Men, just having a good time until the bunyip showed up.

796
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,280
It looks like truth. Quest wants to know have you

797
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,079
told other people about it or do you worry about ridicule.

798
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: I've told a few people's SAME's down. My grandfather told

799
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,960
me sitting here in the fall, drinking beers ghost stories,

800
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,000
telling them some people believe you, some people don't. My partner,

801
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:35,719
she's she blizing ghosts. Yeah he's, but I don't believe

802
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,800
in that because she's never seen it.

803
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was seeing us believing.

804
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's I said, just what. I'm happy you

805
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:44,840
don't believe him because I don't want you to see it.

806
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 2: I've got a general question about dog men. I'm normally

807
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,119
not going to post questions like that. I want the

808
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:53,639
questions to be focused on the actual eye witness, but

809
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,320
I'll go and answer this one. This time. It's from

810
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Lydia Surpa. She wants to know where are the big

811
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,039
slash strongest dog men located the north or the south.

812
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,599
You'll find that the bigger dog men that are seen

813
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,480
normally are up north. There are big ones that have

814
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:16,440
been seen down south, but normally the biggest ones are

815
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:20,079
up north and Sam, you can't have any snacks unless

816
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:27,000
I can have some too, so pass it over. Sorry

817
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,960
I couldn't help myself there. I'll be good from now on.

818
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,000
The next question up is from Andres Carrizales, and Andres

819
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,119
wants to know how open are people about the supernatural

820
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:39,920
in Australia.

821
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:45,159
Speaker 1: Well, I guess my Sime is over there. You got believers,

822
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:46,920
and you got nun believers, and you've got people that

823
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,800
were like me, and they're on the fence and a

824
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,719
lot my potter. If it's in front of you, they believe.

825
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,679
If it's not though, maybe.

826
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, like I said before, seeing us believing in Australia,

827
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:02,760
it's really conservative. Please. I would think if you had

828
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,760
a cryptan encounter, that would have to be one of

829
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,760
the places where it would be most difficult to share

830
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,360
it openly with other people because of how conservative the

831
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,039
police is.

832
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, if you go to the Aboriginal Aboriginal people in Australia, yeah, well,

833
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:22,960
if you go to the elders or him of that,

834
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:29,239
every death in the Aboriginal Aboriginal culture is supernatural. They

835
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,039
don't believe anything. Girls like that. If you pass away,

836
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:36,519
it's because Featherfoot's touched you or something like that. So

837
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:42,119
it's the original. People are very superstitious and very supernatural believing.

838
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,559
But apart from that, a lot of people are just

839
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,559
you'll get the guys that are fall into it, and

840
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:51,800
you'll get the guys that are like, there's no way

841
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,639
that's possible, and then you get the guys in the

842
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:57,559
middle they just go maybe.

843
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it runs a gamut. To me,

844
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,280
it sounds wayde Truth has a great question. He wants

845
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,199
to know, did you notice any distortion of the area.

846
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,519
Speaker 1: Around it, around the bip.

847
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: I think that's what he wants to know. No, No,

848
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,880
some of my witnesses report seeing that sort of an effect.

849
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,800
Most don't, but some do. And I apologize for that

850
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,800
noise in the background. I think my audio is feeding

851
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,239
back through your phone and playing back again or something

852
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,559
like that. Well let's see how it does.

853
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting on the bench, so it could have been

854
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,760
echoing through that.

855
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. And for anyone listening the podcast

856
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,559
versions of the show are always cleaned up. You're not

857
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:46,920
going to have any issues with audio problems like this.

858
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,840
So if the audio issues like this, when they happen,

859
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,639
bother You then highly recommend you just listen to the

860
00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:57,360
podcast version on your favorite podcast platform. Moving on to

861
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,039
the next question. This one is from g Black Sheep

862
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:03,360
and they want to know what other kinds of cryptids

863
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,360
exist near you.

864
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:14,599
Speaker 1: Bunyip Yeah we I guess you could say the man

865
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:21,280
and feather foot. You've got the black cats of Australia,

866
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:29,760
You've got the Tasmanian. I define a cryptid like there's

867
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,960
stories on everything. There's stories on people seeing the scene,

868
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,440
which is the Australia Tasmanian tiger and the bush still

869
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:45,599
there's the main ones are drop. The main ones are

870
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:55,519
the the bunyip, the yaoi, the ya yamba, yamagari, which

871
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:59,920
is like a troll that looks like a frog. Just

872
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,559
descriptions of it, rainbow serpent, but that's mythological. I don't

873
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,719
do you call it cryptid. But yeah, there's a lot

874
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,880
of there's a lot out there.

875
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, I didn't know, yeah that many

876
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,679
cryptis running around there, or supposedly running around. But Australia

877
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,840
is a big place. There's a lot of open area

878
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,000
for them to roam without being seen. So yeah, that

879
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,599
would fit hudras Carrizales wants to know, are there any

880
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:31,239
attacks like the LBL massacre legends or myths?

881
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:39,679
Speaker 1: No, so legends and myths, Yes, legends and myths. Definitely,

882
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:44,519
there's a lot of legends like the Three Sisters that

883
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,400
was there were these three girls being chased in the

884
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,559
Blue Mountains by Bunya brand the witch doctor turned him

885
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:56,760
into a mountains so that Bunya couldn't eat them. And

886
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,280
then just local stories onion coming out, never anyone being

887
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,440
attacked and ripped the pieces like that LBL story of

888
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,639
the family got taken in the camp. I think it was,

889
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:11,000
wasn't it.

890
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: That's right, and the LBL lean between the leagues. That's

891
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,039
what's been said. It does make you wonder if it's happened.

892
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,960
There are some incredible people out there who claim that

893
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,880
it did, so it really does make you wonder.

894
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's the next thing about Australia is the bushy.

895
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,679
I live in suburbia in a Brisbane ips which so

896
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,719
just outside of Brisbane. If I go five minutes that way,

897
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,840
like five minutes west of my house, it's three hundred

898
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,440
k' is a dense spot three hundred square long. Was

899
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,800
a dense Australian bush people go missing here all the time,

900
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,239
saying they go missing over there.

901
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: Like I said, perfect habitat.

902
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know. And there's that many wild pigs dingoes everything.

903
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,679
Even if there was bits and pieces left over, they

904
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:00,719
wouldn't be after that.

905
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say not Sam All, I'm a little confused

906
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,599
about something. You're still strongly affected by that encounter. But

907
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,880
what I can't wrap my head around is do you

908
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,199
still have trouble going out after dark by yourself, especially

909
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,159
being out in the bush by yourself after dark maybe?

910
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,679
Or are you at a point where you can do

911
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,800
that now without too much trouble.

912
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,119
Speaker 1: I'll still go out after dark. I'll make sure I

913
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:34,679
got a lot with me not walking around, mainly for

914
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,840
the snakes, but I'm very not on edge to the

915
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,599
point where the small snoil is going to make me

916
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:43,559
jump to the roof. I'll be very wary of my

917
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:48,320
surroundings and take note of what's going on. I won't

918
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,519
go out without either a bow or a rifle.

919
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,159
Speaker 2: If you are able to go out, how much time

920
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:56,519
had to pass before you actually could do that?

921
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: Well? Hunting the weekend after Wow?

922
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:03,639
Speaker 2: Were you alone at the time when you went hunting,

923
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,079
or did you have people with.

924
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: You had paper with me?

925
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,519
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that would definitely help.

926
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: Then I don't like solid hunting. I don't think it's

927
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,480
a smart idea because there's too much and go roll.

928
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:17,679
You can fall and twist your ankle. If you buy yourself,

929
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,679
you're a small injury can end in a laugh and

930
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,920
it could be life ending if you buy yourself.

931
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it could be not just there, but over here.

932
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,199
Happens to people here all the time. Also, so yeah,

933
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:38,840
it does happen. Well, seem I think it is. It's

934
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,639
going on noon Saturday, There isn't it.

935
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's SMA quarter past known.

936
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,519
Speaker 2: Now quarter past noon. Okay, well we're gonna call it.

937
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,599
We're gonna wrap it up and get out of here.

938
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:53,000
But before we do that, you definitely close in comments

939
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:53,760
you'd like to share.

940
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,679
Speaker 1: Just if anyone has an experience, talk about it, don't

941
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fall up, don't hide about it. If you message Vic,

942
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he is very understanding and will go through it with you.

943
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Just don't let a small thing control the rest of

944
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your life. Understand the fact you saw it, you survived it,

945
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you were Okay, I'm not saying that it's a good thing,

946
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you know what I mean, Like it's you made through it.

947
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Don't let the rest of your days be controlled by

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one thing.

949
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's really good advice. Yeah, it's traumatic in most

950
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cases when you have a dog mean the counter, but

951
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it really would be a shame to let an experience,

952
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any experience, ruin the rest of your life. So yeah,

953
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the advice you gave it couldn't be better. I'm really impressed.

954
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Speaker 1: If you enjoy being out in the bush or hit

955
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the pines or whatever it is you guys call it

956
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over there, do it. Be smart about it. Don't make

957
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unnecessary risk. If you have a feeling that you're being watched,

958
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or you have a feeling that you're in danger, act

959
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on that feeling. Don't just push past it or push

960
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through who you end up as a full on one.

961
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Speaker 2: It's always good to be cautious and take precautions, but

962
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you still have to live your life. If you've had

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an encounter andre having trouble coming to terms with it,

964
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then of course don't put too much weight on a

965
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young back. But eventually that goal should be to be

966
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able to get back out and live life the way

967
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you used to live. For that encounter and of course,

968
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if you need help with an encounter and you haven't

969
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spoken with me yet about it, then all I have

970
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to do is just go to dogmanencounters dot com submit

971
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a report, and if you do that then I'll be

972
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more than happy to schedule a conversation with you on

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the phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Vick is very very accumminating well on complete

975
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different time zones, and Vic worked around me to make

976
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this work. I really appreciate it.

977
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know, you're welcome. Yeah. Talked to eyewitnesses at

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all hours. You wouldn't believe. I've had conversations at two,

979
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it went all the way up to like two or

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three in the morning. I've had five hour conversations with eyewitnesses,

981
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some in the morning, some in the day, some at night.

982
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So yeah, I mean, I just try to stay flexible.

983
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But having said that, Sam, thanks again so much for

984
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coming on and sharing those experiences with us. I really

985
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,599
do appreciate it, and please remember, if you ever do

986
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:27,719
need more help from me, please let me know.

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Speaker 1: I definitely will might any more if I have any

988
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more experiences, I'll definitely let you know. I straight away.

989
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Speaker 2: Well, that sounds good to me. You know, I'll be

990
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there for you well, thanks again so much for your

991
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time and have a great weekend.

992
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Speaker 1: Toys you might, you two and everyone else di SI

993
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,880
ipe out there and have fun.

994
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Speaker 2: Huh. Thanks, We'll see you well everyone. Like I said,

995
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I can't thank you enough for tuning into the show

996
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,960
as always and listening. I really do appreciate you, and

997
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like I've told you several times, you're never going to

998
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know the difference you make in these eyewitnesses live and

999
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for that, of course, I can't thank you enough. But

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having said that, thanks again so much and have a

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great night.