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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to report a UFO over, Hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those areas thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 3>Areas thirty one me neither.

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<v Speaker 2>There were seven one golf.

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<v Speaker 4>If it was anybody as above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 4>like thirty seconds ago.

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<v Speaker 3>We were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's murder. Ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, if you passed over, I got I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's from at least to three thousand feet above us.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I passed out over the thought of us. Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one one.

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<v Speaker 5>You just called both to be be fours.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes? Hey, is I to god

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<v Speaker 1>on an unidentified object? Every liberty four call or calm

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<v Speaker 1>on an unidentified flying object?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll look it on.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their

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<v Speaker 7>experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter,

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Here we are

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<v Speaker 3>on the last day of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>What a year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been.

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<v Speaker 3>Well done you all for making it this far. I

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<v Speaker 3>won't be expecting twenty twenty four to walk in the

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<v Speaker 3>park either. But in the words of Ralph Wildo Emerson,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the destination, it's the journey. I'm Nick Hunter

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our last guest

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<v Speaker 3>of the year is Deborah in Idaho, and she would

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<v Speaker 3>be sharing some of her UFO science and paranormal encounters

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<v Speaker 3>that have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the last few years. Deborah is up mixed. But first,

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<v Speaker 2>You can also find a link in the description of

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now on

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<v Speaker 2>with the show. Hello, welcome to the podcast. Him next,

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<v Speaker 2>it is wonderful to have you with us today and

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<v Speaker 2>you're calling from Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I am northern Idaho, right along the Canadian border

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<v Speaker 1>and the Montana border.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh lovely, so you're right up there on that small

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<v Speaker 6>strip of Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Moye Springs.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, now, Deborah, you come here to share your experiences.

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<v Speaker 6>Would you like to start at the beginning, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Ma'am, yes, thank you for having me. Next. My experiences

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<v Speaker 1>begin in twenty sixteen. I think it began actually when

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<v Speaker 1>I was born or soon after, but nothing really coalesced

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<v Speaker 1>for being until twenty sixteen. When I started, I had

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<v Speaker 1>my first sighting of a craft, and then I just

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<v Speaker 1>have continued to have that see different crafts throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>last seven years or so. Up until twenty sixteen, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very busy raising my children. I was going to school,

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<v Speaker 1>My sister was in medical school, and she had children

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<v Speaker 1>at home that I was helping her with. Our husbands

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<v Speaker 1>worked out of state. They were both did construction, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we were just kind of on our own raising kids,

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<v Speaker 1>going to school, and life was just a marathon at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. And by the time I got to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen April of twenty sixteen, I had my last board

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<v Speaker 1>exam and my nose had just been stuck in a

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<v Speaker 1>book forever, and once that board exam was over, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like I was just kind of on my own

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<v Speaker 1>little sabbatical. I could breathe a little bit. I had

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<v Speaker 1>removed some really big things from my place that was

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<v Speaker 1>just had become almost too much for me. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an odd time. Everything was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>settled down and slowed down. And I think I may

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<v Speaker 1>have already said that we were living in living in

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon at the time. We had just moved there. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't intend to be there very long. We were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in between spots, but we had been living in

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon for a while. We'd lived in mcmnfield and also

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<v Speaker 1>Salem when I first had When I had this first

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<v Speaker 1>sighting in twenty sixteen, it was the daytime sighting and

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<v Speaker 1>I got up, kept in the morning, took care of

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<v Speaker 1>my animals. I began my morning routine, which was let

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<v Speaker 1>my animals out that were going out and feeding the ones,

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<v Speaker 1>feeding everybody, making my coffee, and it was just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a regular morning like that. I had one daughter

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<v Speaker 1>at home at the time, and she was up. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on the phone visiting with a family member, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was everything. My coffee was finished, my chores were done,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I had picked up my coffee and was

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<v Speaker 1>going outside and the back patio smoke a cigarette and

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<v Speaker 1>have my morning coffee, and I sat down at the back.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a beautiful day in April. The flowers were

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<v Speaker 1>bloomed out, the trees were bloomed out. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>few little puppy clouds in the sky, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just very relaxed and just happy not to be sticking

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<v Speaker 1>any more information into my head and really enjoying my

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<v Speaker 1>time right then. And as I'm sitting there looking up

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<v Speaker 1>into the sky, there's this one little puppy cloud that

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<v Speaker 1>is just directly in front of me. This I think

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<v Speaker 1>I said that my bored exam was in April, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was in April, but this was I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if this was at the end of April or in May.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a date for this one. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just very nice out at that time. And as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking up at the sky, I see a flying saucer

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<v Speaker 1>come out from this cloud and it looks like your

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<v Speaker 1>classic little flying saucer. There's a picture of one that

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<v Speaker 1>was taken in Macmnsville, Oregon, years and years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the date right now. I would want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it was the fifties, that I could be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>forties or fifties, and it looked very, very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>this UFOs that was in the picture and others that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that it just came out from this little

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<v Speaker 1>cloud and just stopped right there in front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw it, I was just really excited and delighted,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was just the funniest thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I was seeing a flying saucer right then. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there and just kind of giggling and thinking how

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<v Speaker 1>funny this was, and not believing that it was alien craft.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I was concerned. What I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at was government craft, and that I was just having

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of a funny little trick being played on

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<v Speaker 1>me and the rest of the people that live there

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. Because I'm thinking, you know, other people

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<v Speaker 1>are saying this, it's not up that high, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a flying saucer, So I'm excited to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have a funny response to it because

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<v Speaker 1>I have no interest in going in the house and

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<v Speaker 1>telling my daughter I don't think about it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about going and getting my phone, taking a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just simply enjoying my coffee and my cigarette and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying looking at this flying saucer that's setting up there

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<v Speaker 1>in the air in front of me. It's a really

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<v Speaker 1>dark gray, it's not black. It's like a gun metal grave.

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<v Speaker 1>It has bubble on top of it, like the classic UFOs.

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<v Speaker 1>The inverted bow of the top part is slightly deeper

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<v Speaker 1>than the bottom of it. The bottom of it is shallower.

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<v Speaker 1>It has rings that look like it's going around the

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<v Speaker 1>edges of it, but that's the only markings on it

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<v Speaker 1>that I can see. These just look like little grooves

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<v Speaker 1>that stap around the edges of it. Has the big

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<v Speaker 1>bubble on top, and there's no windows. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anything looking out. There's no movement, not going anywhere up

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<v Speaker 1>or down, sideways. Nothing. And so I finished my cigarette,

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<v Speaker 1>my coffee, and nothing has happened. It's still just setting

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<v Speaker 1>up there in the sky. And I go back into

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<v Speaker 1>the house. I'm like, well, I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I didn't respond any differently to this thing

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<v Speaker 1>or think about it any differently, But I will go

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<v Speaker 1>back inside and I start just doing a few more

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<v Speaker 1>chores around the house. I put some laundry away, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tell my daughter anything about it. I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't go get my phone, but I can't get this

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<v Speaker 1>thing out of my mind. And so approximately thirty or

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes to go by, maybe a little bit longer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still thinking about this thing. So like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm I can't get this thing out of

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, and I've decided I'm going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>out there and see if it's still out there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I go and get another cup of coffee, get my cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 1>I walk back outside, and as soon as I can

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<v Speaker 1>get to where I can look and see if it's

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<v Speaker 1>still there, I look. I haven't sit down yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not there any longer. Really disappointed, my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>really should have come out sooner and checked this out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already out there with my coffee again, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down and I light a cigarette, looking up

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<v Speaker 1>at this little puppy cloud. The same little puppy cloud

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<v Speaker 1>is still there. It hasn't moved or gone anywhere. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm watching it, the flying Sauca comes back out

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<v Speaker 1>of this cloud, and there it is in front of

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<v Speaker 1>me again. And as soon as it does, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>completely overwhelmed with this feeling of deja vous, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really unsettling. It's like, wow, you know, it was this

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<v Speaker 1>thing waiting for me. I don't know. It was very odd,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't really have a whole lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>to dwell on this feeling I was having that was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit spooky. I almost immediately had a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that there was someone that was there with me, was

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<v Speaker 1>very very close, like just in my face. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of really extreme fear came old for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, deav just moves slow, act normal, pretend

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't feel anything that's going on the presence

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<v Speaker 1>that you're feeling that's there. And so I put my

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette out and I picked up my coffee, and I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to walk as normally as possible back inside, and

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<v Speaker 1>I closed the sliding door and threw the drapes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did not go back outside to the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the house again that day. If I went back out

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<v Speaker 1>at all, I went to the front. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>this very strange, unsettling experience. I never told anyone about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk to any of my children about it,

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<v Speaker 1>which typically they hear all strange things from me that

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought, No, they're never going to believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just going to think, well, mom's moms think she

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<v Speaker 1>saw flying sausa. So that was my first experience. My

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<v Speaker 1>second experience happened approximately a year later in an area

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<v Speaker 1>between Chenie and Tyler, Washington, and we had moved there.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter was accepted into the university there. I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get closer to Idaho, where I'm from and

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<v Speaker 1>moving that directction, so I was happy to move there.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up renting a little place between Tyler and Cheenie, Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>which is outside of Spokane, Washington. It was on a

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<v Speaker 1>me to behind me and one off to the right.

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<v Speaker 1>That was basically it. It was very much in the country

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<v Speaker 1>and the close and accessible to the things that we needed.

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<v Speaker 1>This Spokane International Airport was maybe twenty twenty five minutes away.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an air Force base that is not too terribly

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<v Speaker 1>far away that area. The country there where I had

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<v Speaker 1>this sighting is known as the Polues. It has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it is planted with different crops that's raised there

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of it, there's a lot of ranch land,

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<v Speaker 1>and the area we were living was a ranch, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the place that the home I was in

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<v Speaker 1>of the rising hills, and so it kind of gave

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<v Speaker 1>of me where I would go out and sit in

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<v Speaker 1>the mornings. There was a little port and there was

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<v Speaker 1>and was marshy, and then it was rolled back up

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<v Speaker 1>into together different parts of the out west where I

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<v Speaker 1>could see there was no other buildings around. On the

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<v Speaker 1>morning that I had the second sighting, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>started off just like any of my other mornings there.

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<v Speaker 1>I got up and I let my animals out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I walked outside, and it was just this really overwhelming day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like I walked into some different type of world.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was just crystal clear, and the colors were just

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievably vibrant, and everything was magnified. It felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like all of my senses had been just turned up.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a dial. It was like it was turned

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<v Speaker 1>all the way as far as it would And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember saying, remember thinking when I walked out there, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a rare day. I've felt this before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that I've felt maybe once, maybe twice in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, but that's it. I've had this filling before.

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<v Speaker 1>I've felt like this before. There was just this filling,

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<v Speaker 1>a bliss and expectation of something really wonderful, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting ready to spend time with my family do

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<v Speaker 1>something fun. It was just overwhelming, and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>tough time dragging myself back inside to do all of

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<v Speaker 1>my chores that I had to do that morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the animals had gone out, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>made I made my coffee. But usually if I make

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<v Speaker 1>my coffee, by the time I'm finished with all of

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<v Speaker 1>my chores, my coffee is done and then I can

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<v Speaker 1>go outside and sit down. And I kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing going on this summer. We had moved,

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<v Speaker 1>We'd have a number of things going on. My daughter

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<v Speaker 1>was away house sitting, my other daughter was still at

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<v Speaker 1>college in Oregon, and so I was home by myself

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<v Speaker 1>and just relaxing. No longer in a marathon, but just

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<v Speaker 1>some little sprints now. So when this morning rolled around,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was just a nice relaxing morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was really looking forward to just enjoying my day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went back inside and I started brushing around

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<v Speaker 1>doing my chores, and my coffee was making, and because

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<v Speaker 1>I had hurried through my chores so fast, my coffee

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't done when it by the time I got done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember remember mentally just trying to hurry my

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<v Speaker 1>coffee up so that I could go outside and have

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<v Speaker 1>my coffee. Anyway, I went outside and my coffee was

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<v Speaker 1>finally done. I went outside and I sit down on

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<v Speaker 1>this little porch that faces directly west, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed with the day. And I remember thinking, God, if

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<v Speaker 1>every single day was like this, it would be just

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<v Speaker 1>heaven on earth. It was just so incredible. There was

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<v Speaker 1>such an overwhelming feeling of perfectness, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>everything wonderful in your life was just rolled into this

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<v Speaker 1>giant ball of bliss. I can't really describe it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just such a big feeling, and I really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>question it except that it was something that I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I had experienced before that it was very rare. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm setting outside facing where a beautiful, beautiful day,

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<v Speaker 1>no clouds anywhere, the sky is such a deep blue.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can look forever and ever up

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<v Speaker 1>into the sky and just see for a long ways

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<v Speaker 1>everything is just perfect. And as I'm sitting there enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>this day, a little filled mouse runs out in the

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<v Speaker 1>area in front of me, and one of my cats

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<v Speaker 1>goes after it, and I'm just distracted for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, nothing can die today. This little fillm

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<v Speaker 1>mouse cannot be caught, and so I'm making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the little mouse is position in a way that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be caught. He goes under a wood pile.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm distracted at that point, and I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 1>up at the sky. I'm not looking out sky in

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<v Speaker 1>the countryside. I'm looking down at the cats in the mouse.

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<v Speaker 1>And just in the few seconds that I'm distracted by

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<v Speaker 1>the mouse was all it took for this craft to

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<v Speaker 1>show up. And when I looked up, there was this

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<v Speaker 1>massively huge craft in front of me, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so big that I could feel my mouth all open

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<v Speaker 1>and i could feel my eyes just kind of pop

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<v Speaker 1>out of my head. It was so gigantic. It stretched

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<v Speaker 1>off to the right, and one end of it was

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<v Speaker 1>directly in front of me, looking straight west, but the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of this thing stretched off to my right going north.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how big it was. I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>over this in my mind on the size, but the

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<v Speaker 1>size was it was too much for my mind. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I could think, and it sounds odd, but

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I could think was that is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest airplane they have ever made. And I was just

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with that thought in my head. I could not

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<v Speaker 1>move anywhere beyond that thought. That my mind froze there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so big that you could you could have

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<v Speaker 1>taken very large passenger jets or just stacked them in

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<v Speaker 1>this thing like match sticks. It would have held thousands

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<v Speaker 1>and thousands of jets. I don't know how something, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how big something has to be to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was very big, and I could only see

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<v Speaker 1>like I could see the other end of it peripherally

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<v Speaker 1>out of my peripheral vision that it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>big enough that I couldn't concentrate rate on the entire

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<v Speaker 1>craft all at once. I had to kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at it in sections. Almost I could see the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That the park that was the nearest to me directly

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<v Speaker 1>in front is what I could was really focusing on.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not have any wings or tail fins, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any markings windows. Remember staring at the cone part

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<v Speaker 1>knows at the end of it and thinking, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot's supposed to be setting. I should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see a pilot. This thing was gigantic, and it

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<v Speaker 1>took a long time from my mind to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where I could think about something besides the

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<v Speaker 1>size of it and where the pilot should be setting.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to just overcome the size first, and once

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<v Speaker 1>I got to that, once I was able to comprehend

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<v Speaker 1>the size of this things and I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>start thinking about the fact that it wasn't moving, because

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't noticed that yet. My mind had not taken

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<v Speaker 1>that part in. It was like too much to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't moving. It wasn't making any noise at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was white. It looked like if you was to

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<v Speaker 1>take two passenger airplanes and cut them in half, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just take the two noses and stick them together,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that there's no appendages anywhere, just this thing

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<v Speaker 1>and make it really really big. That's what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>No markings, no place for anyone to look out, just

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<v Speaker 1>this really really giant long thing in the sky, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't up that high. It was just a little

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<v Speaker 1>ways above the trees. So anyway, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long I sat there, just trying to take the this

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<v Speaker 1>thing in a while, and then I started thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really need to get a picture of this. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to get a picture of this, and because

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise no one's going to believe me. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was looking at. I'm still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in the airplane mode because I've never really my

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<v Speaker 1>mind hasn't been able to break through the ice that

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<v Speaker 1>this is alien craft. I am still stuck with this

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest airplane they have ever made, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's not moving, it's not making any noise, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing sticking out on it, and it's way too

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<v Speaker 1>big for an airplane that I'm thinking, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>go in and get my phone, But I know I

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<v Speaker 1>can't go in and get my phone because it had

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<v Speaker 1>shown up so quickly. When I looked down at the

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<v Speaker 1>mouse and the cat, my attention was averted only for

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<v Speaker 1>a few seconds, and I knew that as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I turned my back on this thing, that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a very good chance it was just going to be gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want to take that chance, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like I was settled in there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I'm not moving. I am not moving

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<v Speaker 1>until I see this thing leave. I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>see this thing leave. Somehow it got here, it showed up,

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<v Speaker 1>it got to leave. And as I'm having this thought.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a flash of light on the very very top

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<v Speaker 5>and center of it, and I'm thinking, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 5>like a sparkle.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of chrome off of a car. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it looks like that there's nothing moving, that the

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<v Speaker 1>craft didn't move. The center's coming up. It's about by

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<v Speaker 1>this time, it's maybe ten o'clock in the morning. And

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<v Speaker 1>now everything that I'm going to tell you happened really

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<v Speaker 1>really fast. The first part of this story, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is just a stretched out, weird story with how

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<v Speaker 1>I felt and then this thing showing up. But this

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<v Speaker 1>second part, it happened very quickly. There was a flash

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<v Speaker 1>light on the top of it, and then as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as there's a flash of light, the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>craft that's right directly in front of me develops this

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<v Speaker 1>fuzzy energy line type thing along the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It runs from the top of the craft to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the craft. But as soon as it's made,

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<v Speaker 1>this fuzzy energy line starts rushing towards the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the craft. And the same thing is happening at the

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<v Speaker 1>other end of this craft. And there's two fuzzy bars

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<v Speaker 1>of energy like the heat wave you would see over

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<v Speaker 1>the top of a highway. It looks like some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of energy line. And as these two bars of energy

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<v Speaker 1>that's the exit exact height of the craft and depth,

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<v Speaker 1>are rushing towards each other, the craft itself is disappearing.

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<v Speaker 1>As this fuzzy line passed over the craft, the craft

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer there. And my mind is I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know a mind could scream, but my mind just screams,

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<v Speaker 1>it's shrinking itself. That's the only thing I could think.

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<v Speaker 1>It is shrinking itself. These two bars of energy they

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<v Speaker 1>slam together. There's no sounds that I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just rushing at each other at a tremendous speed

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<v Speaker 1>right in the center of the craft, right for that

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<v Speaker 1>flash of light had been at the top. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>these two bars of energy are going to meet. And

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<v Speaker 1>they meet and as they meet. Now the craft is

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<v Speaker 1>completely gone. As soon as they meet, they become a

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<v Speaker 1>ball of light. And now this ball of light is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down lower because this craft was really big. So

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<v Speaker 1>now this ball of light, it looks to me like

423
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<v Speaker 1>it's now below the tree line, and it's big, and

424
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it's further down. Now. I'm looking off to my right

425
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>because when this craft trunk itself changed itself, I had

426
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 1>to look in that direction of that fuzzy bar of

427
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>light ran in that direction along the side of the

428
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 1>craft that I'm looking at. I can see this ball

429
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of light down there. Soon as it becomes a ball

430
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>of light, it takes off at a tremendous speed south.

431
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It goes me. It goes a long ways, maybe a

432
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>mile or two, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how

433
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>far I can see, maybe a mile. It goes for

434
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a long ways and then it just shoots straight into

435
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 1>the air. And this is such an amazing day. It's

436
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like I said, everything is magnified. The sky is just

437
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>this deep, deep blue, and this ball of light just

438
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 1>shoots straight up into the sky and I can see

439
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it for a long time. At this point, I'm standing

440
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 1>up on the porch and I'm looking up the sky

441
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's just a teeny tiny pinprick of light up there,

442
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>and then it's gone. And that was my second experience.

443
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And as soon as it was finished, I was just like,

444
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.559
<v Speaker 1>no one is ever going to belave me. They will

445
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>never belave me. That was just true.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Then I moved again. This time I moved where I'm

465
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>at right now. I moved to Moye spring I was

466
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>here for I moved here at the end of twenty eighteen,

467
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and it was the end of twenty nineteen, so nearly

468
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>two years went by, approximately two years before I had

469
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>my third siding. My third sighting was here at Moye

470
00:31:53.759 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Springs on this December seventeenth of twenty nineteen. Siding I

471
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>just spoke of was July twenty fourth of twenty seventeen.

472
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 1>That second sighting I just spoke of. One of the

473
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>things I forgot to mention is soon after that sighting

474
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 1>took place, I told myself, I have to get a

475
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 1>picture of an airplane or something right Therefore, I saw

476
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to know exactly where I saw that

477
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>craft stationed in the sky at that time, and I

478
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>figured the only thing I could do to kind of

479
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>keep that firm in my mind was to take a

480
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>picture of an airplane there. And because the air force

481
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>base and the airport was so close it was, I

482
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>figured it would be simple enough to do that. And

483
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it took a little bit of time, maybe an hour

484
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>hour or so. I took picture of a jet airplane

485
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 1>that was right there. And it was really disturbing to

486
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>look that picture after I took it, because it was

487
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 1>so tiny. It was like looking at just a teeny

488
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 1>tiny little thing compared to what I had been looking at.

489
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.759
<v Speaker 1>It was unsettling. I had two other things that happened

490
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>there at that place before I move on to where

491
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm at now in Idaho. My oldest daughter woke up

492
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 1>at one point and in the morning and she came

493
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 1>out she's mom. Looked at my stomach, and on her

494
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>stomach and just up over the edge of her rib

495
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>cage was a full handprint that was a bruise. If

496
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I was to put my hand and just set my

497
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>hand on her, it was like if you was to

498
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 1>leave an entire handprint on her. It's very odd. I

499
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't like it that. I didn't really want to say anything.

500
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I definitely did not want to mention aliens and no

501
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>contrust real beings or anything like that really get her

502
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.599
<v Speaker 1>freak out. So I just kind of we just blew

503
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it off as she hurt herself in the middle of

504
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the night. As one of the stories we can tell ourselves.

505
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess that at that time that's what we were

506
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>going with. Another night there, I woke up in the

507
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and my room was fully lit

508
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>it there was some kind of a light outside. I'm thinking,

509
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>is this the moon? Because this is like about the

510
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>brightest I've ever seen in my room. And I was

511
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 1>a little freaked out and spooked, and I refused to

512
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>get out of bed and looked so kind of buried

513
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>myself back in there and went back to sleep. But

514
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that was a weird feeling, and the room was way

515
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>too bright to be like even a full moon. It

516
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>was just very, very bright, and the wind as a

517
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 1>curtains were drawn. So anyway, I moved to Moye Springs

518
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm now living there. It is December of twenty nineteen,

519
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm taking my dog out just before I go

520
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 1>to bed, and I go outside, and by this time

521
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing some research on UFOs, and I've come

522
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>across your show and I'm thinking about talking to you

523
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 1>about this second experience that I've had, because it was

524
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 1>it just upended everything that I believed about this stuff.

525
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had kind of believed about that there

526
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>was something probably that I had not given it a

527
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 1>whole up thought. Anyway, when I went out, I had

528
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 1>been listening to a little more information on it and

529
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>was doing some research and not really expecting to see

530
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>anything else. And I went outside, walked towards the front

531
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.039
<v Speaker 1>of where I'm living, and up in the sky were

532
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>two red orange balls just floating up there. And I

533
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>got the oddest sense of like, hey, guess what, we're

534
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 1>here too. And I was so shocked this time I

535
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>did not even hesitate. My phone was in the house,

536
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>it was plugged in that I'm like, nope, I'm getting

537
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>in my phone. This is too much. I'm going to

538
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Speaker 1>get a picture of this. So I went running back

539
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 1>in the house, yelled at my daughter. She happened to

540
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>be home, my youngest daughter, and I said go outside

541
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and with in the sky. I didn't want to tell

542
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>her what to look for because I was afraid she'd

543
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh mom, So I went and grabbed my phone.

544
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 1>She ran outside, and there's these two red orange balls

545
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>floating up and down. As we get out there, one

546
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of them begins to disappear and it just completely disappears.

547
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>The other one remains, and it's just kind of rising

548
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 1>up and then dropping down. It's not going sideways, and

549
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.039
<v Speaker 1>it looks like a weird energy ball. It's kind of

550
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 1>pulp stating. And so I start videotaping and my daughter

551
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, Mom, can is this cold? Can I

552
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>go inside? And it is cold, it's winter time, and

553
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>there's no one ground. She really doesn't want to stand

554
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>out there and look at this red orange ball in

555
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 1>the sky. And so I'm like, yes, go ahead, go

556
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>ahead and go inside. I know you don't want to

557
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>be out here. And I just continued to videotape a

558
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I tried to. It was really hard to

559
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>try to get a good clear picture, and I tried

560
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 1>to like zoom in slowly and getting as clear as possible.

561
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>And I did take a couple of videotapes and I finished,

562
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and when I went to the house, that red orange

563
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>ball was still floating up and down in the sky.

564
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't go back out to check and see

565
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 1>if it was still there or not. It was kind

566
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of interesting the responses that we that I had to

567
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>this step. However, it makes me wonder why even I've

568
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>had some apathy to it. But my thought was after

569
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>seeing this, was I have got contact NIX because this

570
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 1>step is just these things are really starting to pile

571
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 1>up on me. And I was shocked to have this

572
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:27.599
<v Speaker 1>good siding. Approximately two weeks later, fifteen minutes after midnight

573
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 1>on twenty twenty, my daughter and I had stayed up

574
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to welcome into New Year, and she had gone to bed.

575
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I was taking my dog out one more time. Where

576
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I went to bed, there was still a couple of

577
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 1>fireworks going off, and I look over towards this mountain

578
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 1>range that's a part of the Rocky mountains here that

579
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I can see facing south and hanging over the top

580
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of this mountain range of three red orange balls, just

581
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like what I had seen two weeks prior on the

582
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 1>seventeenth of September. And so I go back inside and

583
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>once again I get the same feeling of hey, we're

584
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 1>here observing, just checking out the place. And I go

585
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>outside and I start videotaping one of them. Disappears. Another

586
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>one is there for a while, and then pretty student,

587
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 1>there's just two of them are visible for a while,

588
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but then one of the second ones becomes dimmer and lower,

589
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.679
<v Speaker 1>and then there's just the one remaining up there. But

590
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>it stays there, and I do videotape for a bit

591
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and I try to get the best picture I can,

592
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 1>but it is difficult. You can still see it there,

593
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 1>and then that is my four sighting. My fifth siding

594
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 1>is kind of interesting because this was my fifth side.

595
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But since I've seen it, I've now seen it three

596
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>other times, and I've taken pictures each time. This happened

597
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>May whenning twenty meeting, sometime after the Red Orange Balls.

598
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a picture, so it's timestamps that I don't

599
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 1>have it in front of me right now. Anyway, I

600
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 1>walk outside once again. It was in the evening, and

601
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 1>here coming towards me from the west is this swing

602
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>of light that is just absolutely beautiful, and I'm my

603
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 1>first thought is this looks like a spring of pearls,

604
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's just incredible, and I'm just awed by it.

605
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And as it's crossing over the top of me, I'm

606
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 1>trying to run in and get my camera that I

607
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>had just plugged my phone in it was almost dead,

608
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and this thing now has passed over the top of

609
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>my home. So I'm running out the other side and

610
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I finally get just one quick picture of it before

611
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it's gone, and I'm just amazed at what I'm seeing.

612
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I've seen a fifth raft after all

613
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of this. So I go inside and I start looking

614
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 1>up Spring the Pearls because that's what I just saw. Now.

615
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>The oddest thing with all of these sightings that I've

616
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 1>had experiences is they all seem to come with some

617
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 1>type of an emotional response, and then there's all kinds

618
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of synchronicities that come along with it. And so I

619
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 1>looked up to Spring the Pearls and it's like, supposedly Starlink.

620
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, well, I was a little bit disappointed,

621
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>but not really buying it completely because of how I

622
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 1>felt whenever I saw this thing. It was just so

623
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.280
<v Speaker 1>incredibly beautiful. And it was just not long after that

624
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.559
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to Jane's from the A Steady Ranch

625
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 1>talk about Starlink and he made the comment that Darlink

626
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>was the new swamp Gap or today, and I thought

627
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting and maybe makes a little sense. Maybe starlink

628
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 1>was made to counterdictie Contradictee's rumors. Well, well, I guess,

629
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 1>but not rumors, because people are seeing starlink or swings

630
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the pearls all over the place. But I think, I

631
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:24.039
<v Speaker 1>think it's possibility that maybe these springs of pearls is

632
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>something that the government couldn't hide, knew that they couldn't hide.

633
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe starling was developed so that there was an excuse

634
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to have these big strings of light follow the sky.

635
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know either way. I had another weird experience,

636
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 1>well exactly a year to the day and one day later,

637
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was on the phone with my oldest son

638
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and we were having a really good discussion about this

639
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.199
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. And I don't know if I was

640
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 1>still on the phone with him or if I had

641
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 1>gotten off the phone at that point that I was

642
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>still thinking about the subject. And I pulled up my

643
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>photo of the spring of pearls and I'm looking at it,

644
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and I look at the date on it, and I'm like,

645
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, this was like exactly one year and

646
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:17.199
<v Speaker 1>one day right now. And so I go to my

647
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 1>window and I look out my window, and there is

648
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the spring of pearls set and s guy and I

649
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 1>take a picture. It's just getting ready to disappear over

650
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the eastward horizon. I take a picture, and I have

651
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that photo. My third experience with the spring of pearls

652
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 1>happened in September of this year. I'm going to skip

653
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 1>around a little bit because I'm going to stick to

654
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 1>sift this particular graph and for now. And I walk

655
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>outside once again. I am on the phone with my

656
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 1>oldest son and we're visiting, not about not about this

657
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, I don't think, but were just visiting

658
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and having a good conversation. And I walk out onto

659
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>my front I look up, not even up up, because

660
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>my porch is elevated a little bit, and so I

661
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>just have a really nice view and Moya is there's

662
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of light floating up here. And

663
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 1>as soon as I walk out, there is this beautiful

664
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 1>spring of pearls and it is It's just there. It

665
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 1>is not moving at all, it's not going anywhere, and

666
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just shocked. It's like, Okay, there's supposed to be

667
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.599
<v Speaker 1>a satellite right now. I don't know anything about satellite.

668
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they can make them stationary. I don't know, but

669
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>this thing is not moving. And I tell my son,

670
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hold on, there's something I've got to get

671
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 1>a picture of. And he's humoring me. He's like, Okay,

672
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, mom, go get your phone. And so I

673
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>go inside and I grab my phone because I have

674
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>headphones in, and as soon as I grab it, I

675
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 1>open it up to the camera because I'm thinking, I'm

676
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>not going to get picture. It's going to be already

677
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>passed all the way over the house and gone by

678
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 1>the time I get out there. When I get out there,

679
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 1>my hand is still kind of moving when I take

680
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.519
<v Speaker 1>the picture, so it's not the greatest, but it's still there.

681
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I take one picture, I look down at my phone

682
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 1>and I look happen It's gone. And I'm thinking, this

683
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like cal a satellite should be acting. But

684
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about this. I saw this one

685
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 1>more time, and that was just this past month in

686
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 1>my Boysie, Idaho. It was actually at my parents' house

687
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 1>in Loser, Idaho. I happen to go out to my car.

688
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 1>This happened at like seven o'clock in the evening where

689
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm at now with a specific time, so it had

690
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 1>been eight o'clock here in lloy Age. But I walked

691
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:56.119
<v Speaker 1>outside to my car and coming over the horizon, is

692
00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>this just unbelievable string of pearls again? And so I

693
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>go in the house. I have my phone. I go

694
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>into house and I tell my mom and dad and

695
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 1>brother are all in there, and I tell my brother

696
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 1>he should come out and take a look at this.

697
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll find it fascinating. And I don't want

698
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to say too much to my parents that gets them

699
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 1>excited because my dad's been having some heart issues and

700
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>staying with my mom, so they're both in their early

701
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 1>to mid eighties. Anyway, So my brother comes out and

702
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 1>he immediately starts recording. He's just fascinated. And my parents

703
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>come out. My mom just sees the tail end of it,

704
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and my dad he says, he says, wow, I've never

705
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 1>seen anything like that. And this time they reacted completely

706
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>different than all of the other times. The first time

707
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 1>it passed from half to horizons. The second time it

708
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 1>was just on the horizon and I got a quick picture.

709
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 1>The third time when it disappeared, it was instantly every

710
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>single light in that string of pearls disappeared at once.

711
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>This time, what happened was as this string of pearls

712
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 1>came up and reached the apex of the sky, each

713
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>one of them would go to the same spot and

714
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>just disappear, one after the other. So those are my

715
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 1>sidings of the string of pearls. I have some other

716
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:34.039
<v Speaker 1>sidings that are kind of odd. There's a photo out

717
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I took a screenshot of it. Something that was happened

718
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in I see Las Vegas. There was a reaction to

719
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>it and it looked like a giant bubble. I'm not

720
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 1>exactly sure if who was supposedly launching it, but it

721
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 1>looks like a big bubble. So what I saw was

722
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 1>hot peak and it was out here in the front

723
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 1>and once again I was on the phone with my

724
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 1>oldest son and I was standing outside it the summertime.

725
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a picture of this. It happens very fast,

726
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but there was just suddenly this giant hot paint bubbles

727
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that went by in front of me. And I can

728
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>mention one other siding that happened. There's been a few

729
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>other listenings too, but there's another one that happened in Pacchini.

730
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And aside from the first one I had of the

731
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>flying saucer that boots me. This one also scared me,

732
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.559
<v Speaker 1>and it was a little bit different. So I'm in Cheenie.

733
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 1>My daughter is living there and my son in law,

734
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and she's finishing school. They have an apartment there. They're

735
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 1>no longer they're living there, but she's finishing school, and

736
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm spending a night with them. They have a deck

737
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.679
<v Speaker 1>on the back where they live, and it's a two

738
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 1>story place, so it's elevated, and I have a really

739
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>nice view. I'm looking out over just kind of an

740
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>edge of Cheenie, and I see this really bright light

741
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's way way too low to be a star,

742
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, well, I don't think it's an airplane.

743
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It's stopped blinking that I'm really observing it, and it

744
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.679
<v Speaker 1>just seems very very odd because it's too low to

745
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>be a star, and it's really really big and bright,

746
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm watching it, and for some reason, I

747
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.159
<v Speaker 1>typically don't think out towards these things, but this one

748
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I did because they just kept getting brighter and brighter,

749
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and finally I thought out towards it, Wow, you might

750
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.559
<v Speaker 1>want to tone it down a bit there, brother, somebody's

751
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 1>going to notice you you're so bright. And instantly I

752
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was given this feeling of just complete irritation and don't

753
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>tell me what to do, and you don't know bright.

754
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>This thing just blew up in size and just rushed

755
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>towards me. It became blue, kind of an odd glup

756
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 1>but not really a turquoise blue, but bleww, and it

757
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 1>just exploded towards me, and I blew out of my chair,

758
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>got to the front door. I had to go around

759
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the apartment, and I got to the front and tried

760
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:28.039
<v Speaker 1>to walk as normally as possible into the house without

761
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:32.280
<v Speaker 1>alerting the kids to the fact that something had been

762
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>going on. So anyway, that's nick. That is pretty much

763
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>my sightings.

764
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 6>Wow, interesting stuff.

765
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've it's been interesting.

766
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 6>You know, this has happened quite regularly over the last

767
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 6>few years.

768
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It did. I had never had anything like this happen

769
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in my life. And it was like the minutes I

770
00:50:56.280 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>slowed down and took a breath and looked up because

771
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>my nose had been buried in a book for years.

772
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I had been a mother and a wife at home

773
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 1>and decided to go back to school. Everything was just

774
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>really a grind. And when I got to twenty sixteen,

775
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 1>there had been a few things that were a lot better.

776
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I had gotten rid of the school business, things were

777
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>going better for my kids. My marriage was on the

778
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 1>rocks and were divorced. Now that you know I was

779
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>dealing is some of the things that I had been

780
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>dealing with were better at that point. But when things

781
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:40.280
<v Speaker 1>started in twenty sixteen, I have had just one siding

782
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.639
<v Speaker 1>after another. I have no idea why that I just

783
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 1>keep seeing them.

784
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 6>Was there anything in your past that really stands out?

785
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I have a number of things that happened to me

786
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 1>in my past, and I never really examined any of

787
00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>those things and kill to this point, and and it's like, wow,

788
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of this stuff makes a whole lot

789
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>more sense than what I'm looking at right or what

790
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 1>I was originally looking at, because I didn't that's just

791
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't believe in UFOs. I was raised as

792
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:23.199
<v Speaker 1>a Christian, that my thoughts of God is that God

793
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.119
<v Speaker 1>is love and God is life. That's what God is

794
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>is life. And to me, it wouldn't It would only

795
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.039
<v Speaker 1>seemed common sense that he would just like stuck the

796
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:40.519
<v Speaker 1>universe of life. So the fact that there might be nonprest.

797
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Real life wasn't something that I really dwelled on, but

798
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I thought that there was a very good chance that

799
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 1>there was, and I did have some odd things happen

800
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>as I was growing up. I had times, like so

801
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 1>many of your guests, where all of my blankets would

802
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>be in the floor, or I would be upside down

803
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 1>in my bed. One night, when I was like about

804
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, we had this full size bed and

805
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 1>it whatever reason, I don't know if it was a

806
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 1>homemade one or WoT, it was a wooden bed, but

807
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it was set low to the ground compared to a

808
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of the beds that you see, especially nowadays, I

809
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It was very low to the ground. I

810
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>woke up in the middle of the night and I

811
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was stuffed beneath this bed. There was absolutely no way

812
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that I could have wriggened myself under this bed without

813
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>waking up, because I was fully jammed under there and

814
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it was pressing down on me. How I got underneath

815
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that bed, I have no idea things like that. What's

816
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.079
<v Speaker 1>interesting is when I first moved to Oregon, I had

817
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:54.639
<v Speaker 1>discovered these little tiny babies underneath my skin. While I

818
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>was living there at ms Mensville, and I don't even

819
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 1>know why I was pressing around on that side of

820
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>my leg, but it was almost like consciously I knew

821
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 1>that there was something there, and it felt like a

822
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 1>little tiny beeby bit. It was pretty deep down in

823
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:16.079
<v Speaker 1>the muscle of my leg. And at another point, while

824
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 1>living in Salem, I found another one there. So I

825
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.639
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of themen and I kept My thought

826
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>was that maybe I had a tumor and I was

827
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 1>dying because I did not think about implant and it

828
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 1>really bothered me to touch them. I did not want

829
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to touch them, and so I pretty much ignored that

830
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>those things happened prior to my sighting. So there was

831
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>some things in my past that definitely could indicate something

832
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 1>was going on, and then also some bruising and some

833
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 1>things that your other guests have talked about, like gabbing

834
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.039
<v Speaker 1>that looked like three little triangles. You had a guest

835
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 1>on at one point that said, we know for something.

836
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Typically we know something even if we think we don't

837
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 1>know anything, And so I thought one day after I'd

838
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>listened to that show, I thought, you know, do I thought,

839
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>do I know? And the only thing I could think

840
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.599
<v Speaker 1>of that I knew was that I was waking up

841
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.400
<v Speaker 1>at three h three or three thirty three in the morning,

842
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I started writing down I had not kept

843
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>track of any of the dates, so I started just

844
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.039
<v Speaker 1>writing down the dates. And I didn't tell anyone what

845
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I was doing. It was like, you know what, I'm

846
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 1>not even going to speak this out loud. I'm just

847
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.280
<v Speaker 1>going to write it down and keep track of it.

848
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:50.280
<v Speaker 1>And over the next few months, I kept track of

849
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it for not quite a year, quite about a nine

850
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 1>month period. And when I went back and looked one day,

851
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>because I'd kind of write things down all over in

852
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:03.639
<v Speaker 1>this notebook, I went back and looked and my day

853
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.599
<v Speaker 1>dates were all of the seventh of the month, and

854
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, so, yeah, this is this is kind

855
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 1>of weird. Maybe I do know something. And then situations

856
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 1>waking up with large bruises, like I have a picture

857
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that I took of just this really big bruise on

858
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>my leg and once again it was on the seventh

859
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of July. I think, I do want to mention one

860
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:35.519
<v Speaker 1>thing that is kind of odd. So I do have

861
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 1>some people I can kind to talk to this about.

862
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really gone way way in depth with especially

863
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the emotional parts of it, like the feelings I'm getting

864
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.320
<v Speaker 1>from these crafts or these experiences almost like a communication.

865
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I haven't really gone into that. Sometimes I think it's

866
00:56:54.360 --> 00:57:00.480
<v Speaker 1>easier for people to accept maybe something solid they can

867
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>look at, rather than somebody talking about their feelings. Anyway,

868
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to somebody that is very very close

869
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to me about the siding, the second siding I had,

870
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't talked to anybody about this. I mean,

871
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I kind of mentioned it to my kids that, like

872
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>my daughters, they felt like a kind of a look

873
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of fear in their eyes. And I don't know if

874
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that was just because I was talking about aliens or

875
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're also the concerns for their mother's mind.

876
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I didn't want to scare my kids,

877
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:41.039
<v Speaker 1>and so I try to just discuss this with people

878
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.840
<v Speaker 1>who are a little bit more open to it. And

879
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>this person is much more open to these things, and

880
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we have just some really enjoyable conversations like I do

881
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 1>with my older son. And not that I don't have

882
00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 1>great conversations with all of my kids, but I typically

883
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:03.760
<v Speaker 1>don't discussed aliens a huge amount with my girls. But

884
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>my boys are more open, and then I do have

885
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 1>a couple of friends that I can discuss these things with,

886
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.960
<v Speaker 1>one more so than the others. But even way this day,

887
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I was having a discussion with one of those friends,

888
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was the day before the fourth of July,

889
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 1>so this took place on those that July. And this

890
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:30.159
<v Speaker 1>person is a member of one of the three Letter

891
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>agencies here in America, and they have some fairly high

892
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.559
<v Speaker 1>level clearance. And I just kind of assume that anytime

893
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm visiting or hanging out with this person, that will

894
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 1>probably being observed and listened to, and not because of me,

895
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.639
<v Speaker 1>but because of the high security work that he does

896
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and what he's involved in. And so I just take

897
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that for granted. But as far as talking about UFOs

898
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, that I never proved myself. And

899
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, I had this discussion with him about this,

900
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and we had a really good discussion about it, and

901
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.679
<v Speaker 1>I told him most of my stories that I really

902
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't go into the emotional part of it, Like I'm

903
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 1>not really sure how much I did to stay, but

904
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I did not really get into that. I might have

905
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>touched on a little bit, and I didn't spend as

906
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>much time on the citing itself the experience of stuff.

907
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I was a little more constent. But either way, the

908
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:38.159
<v Speaker 1>next morning, when I got up, at some point in

909
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the morning, I was outside and I looked down on

910
00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>my arm, and on my right arm I had I

911
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>had aught looked like an IV brue. And I haven't

912
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time at the hospital, but I

913
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.440
<v Speaker 1>have been there when I had my babies, and it

914
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 1>looked exactly like an IV bruise, with a little bit

915
00:59:56.000 --> 01:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of scabbing and a couple of puncturemarks. So anyway, I

916
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 1>just thought that was the strange just thing. I didn't

917
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like it. It's I don't like the idea of anything

918
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>or anyone coming into my home in the middle of

919
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 1>the night. So yeah, that was a little bit spooky.

920
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>It was like, Wow, this is I don't don't know

921
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 1>what to make of this. I don't know if I've

922
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:27.480
<v Speaker 1>really even talked to this person about that. I do

923
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 1>plan on bringing a depth just to see what his

924
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on. I don't know what feel safe, but I

925
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:35.559
<v Speaker 1>just thought it was really odd that I had this

926
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 1>conversation and then the next morning I wake up and

927
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 1>I have got a bruise on the inside of my

928
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:44.800
<v Speaker 1>right arm that looked like an IV bruthe with Marx

929
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in it. I did take a picture, so I have

930
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a picture of that. Also.

931
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<v Speaker 6>It's interesting that you seem to have like an emotional

943
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:55.400
<v Speaker 6>connection to all your sightings, have different mixed feelings and

944
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.880
<v Speaker 6>emotions that come with it. These aren't just lights in

945
01:01:57.880 --> 01:01:59.039
<v Speaker 6>the sky that you have seen.

946
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Y've all been kind of odd that the first one,

947
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the saucer, for whatever reason, it scared me with that

948
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 1>feeling that someone was right there. I went from Okay,

949
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:17.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm having deja vu to somebody is right there with me.

950
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>They're staring at me, if they're looking at me, if

951
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 1>they're close. And I don't know why that spooked me

952
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 1>so bad that it really did, and I really don't

953
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:31.679
<v Speaker 1>know what to make it up. First sighting, it's like, Okay,

954
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I seeing a flying saucer. I have no idea why

955
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. I don't know what it means. I

956
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know what any of it means.

957
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 1>But I have felt like I am being shown craft, obviously,

958
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 1>and I think that the well, they're all really interesting.

959
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:56.400
<v Speaker 1>That second sighting, that feeling that that I had experienced

960
01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that sense of with before, that I had felt that before,

961
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:04.199
<v Speaker 1>but I have no memory of ever seeing any kind

962
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 1>of craft, so that part of it was way out

963
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 1>of the blue. I've never seen red orange balls. But

964
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting that I got the sense of hello,

965
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 1>and we're here and we're just hanging out and observing.

966
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:27.039
<v Speaker 1>And then with the string of pearls the starling, there's

967
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 1>four different experiences right there, and all four of them

968
01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:35.440
<v Speaker 1>are completely different. It would be one thing if I

969
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.679
<v Speaker 1>had saw it all four times and I saw it

970
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:43.639
<v Speaker 1>in exactly the same manner, moving across the sky, not

971
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:51.039
<v Speaker 1>ever stationary, not ever just completely disappearing, not disappearing one

972
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 1>light at the time. And then, of course the when

973
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I had in Cheenie where the craft just felt really

974
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 1>irritated and it just felt it felt like the bully.

975
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:07.519
<v Speaker 1>It felt like a bully. And if like, well, and

976
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:11.559
<v Speaker 1>I've given that some thoughts too, because we're hearing step

977
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 1>about Hyer frequencies and you know all of this. You

978
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:19.960
<v Speaker 1>know that didn't feel real high frequency to me. And

979
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 1>so I think that just because something has a little

980
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:30.880
<v Speaker 1>more power, a little more knowledge, doesn't necessarily make it

981
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a step about me or you or anyone else. I

982
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of that's determined by how we

983
01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:39.920
<v Speaker 1>treat each other and other beings.

984
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 6>So anyway, now, aside from these sciens, do you ever

985
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:49.239
<v Speaker 6>recall any experiences of the paranormal kind? But whether it's

986
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 6>more present day or when you're a.

987
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Child, I have had paranormal experiences, and I have one

988
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:04.199
<v Speaker 1>really occurring dream that I had from my earliest memory.

989
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about my reoccurring dreams first, if you like,

990
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 1>and then tell you about my paranormal experiences. My reoccurring

991
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:17.639
<v Speaker 1>dream tied in just a little bit more with the

992
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 1>sidings that I've had, I think, and with everything that's

993
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:24.199
<v Speaker 1>gone on in the past. I started having this dream

994
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.519
<v Speaker 1>when I was well. I've had it as far back

995
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.159
<v Speaker 1>as I can remember. I stopped having it when I

996
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was about eleven years old. So when I was a baby,

997
01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 1>even being put down for a nap, a lot of

998
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.239
<v Speaker 1>times I had to have this dream. And I hated

999
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:43.639
<v Speaker 1>having the dream. It was scary, it was unsettling, and

1000
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I always woke up stick from this dream. In my dream,

1001
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I am on some kind some kind of a landscape

1002
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 1>where I'm just jogging and running along. Everything is rusty

1003
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 1>colored brand The rocks are brownish reddish rays, the dirt

1004
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the same color. The sky is the same color, a

1005
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:12.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit lighter, but everything is the same color, just

1006
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:17.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of a rust color. And there is no vegetation,

1007
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:23.800
<v Speaker 1>no live any kind anywhere. There's only rubble and rocks

1008
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and dirt. And in my dreaming, I am running. I

1009
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know what direction I'm running, but off to my

1010
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:37.079
<v Speaker 1>left is a more heels. I'm on the side of

1011
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a hill and they're rising up and it rises up

1012
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:44.360
<v Speaker 1>there for the back of those mountains that the mountains

1013
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.639
<v Speaker 1>look exactly like the land I'm on right now, just

1014
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:54.320
<v Speaker 1>this rusty reddish brown gray dirt and rocks. And off

1015
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to the right of me going down the hill is

1016
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Everything looks exactly the same. It's just rubble,

1017
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and all of the country, all of the land, is

1018
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:11.280
<v Speaker 1>got these little tiny narrow paths running on them. There

1019
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:15.280
<v Speaker 1>are about the width of a railroad crass and these

1020
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:20.519
<v Speaker 1>paths have just been ground into a really fine calcum

1021
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.920
<v Speaker 1>powder like dust. And in my dream, I'm always exactly

1022
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the same age. I'm about maybe six years old. I

1023
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 1>have on what feels like cotton top and bottom, and

1024
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:38.920
<v Speaker 1>they're white. I have on the white cotton shorts that

1025
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:42.400
<v Speaker 1>comes just above my knees. I have on a white

1026
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.840
<v Speaker 1>cotton T shirt that because of all of the dust,

1027
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I am all dusty and dirty too. I can see

1028
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:53.760
<v Speaker 1>that it's white. It should have been white. That I'm dirty.

1029
01:07:53.960 --> 01:08:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And in my dream, I'm always jogging or moving at

1030
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the very least, and looking around. In my dream, the

1031
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:09.039
<v Speaker 1>only thing that is in my dream besides myself are

1032
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:13.840
<v Speaker 1>these giant white schools. And that's what I call them,

1033
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:17.079
<v Speaker 1>is schools, because I think that's the only thing in

1034
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 1>my baby mind that I maybe could have seen at

1035
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:23.439
<v Speaker 1>some point that I could identify these things with like

1036
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:26.439
<v Speaker 1>a school of threads laid on its side and rolling.

1037
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what these things looked like, only they were the

1038
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.079
<v Speaker 1>size or as tall as like a Max truck. They

1039
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 1>were very very tall, that they were skinny enough to

1040
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 1>roll down these paths, and these schools were all over

1041
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the place. I could see them behind me, and in

1042
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 1>front of me. I could see them down further down

1043
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the landscape, up going up towards the mountains. They never

1044
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.079
<v Speaker 1>went fast, and they never went sprow They all looked

1045
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.079
<v Speaker 1>like they were moving in exactly the same speed, just

1046
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:10.479
<v Speaker 1>rolling methodically along. They never ever stopped rolling, and I

1047
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:14.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what they were. They were just very, very scary.

1048
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Probably about the worst thing about this stream that I

1049
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:23.000
<v Speaker 1>really disliked the most was how I would feel when

1050
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I would wake up from it. And from the very

1051
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.800
<v Speaker 1>very beginning, when I was really small, I think I

1052
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.720
<v Speaker 1>can probably remember having the dream back to the ages

1053
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:38.680
<v Speaker 1>at least two, and I remember having the dream taking

1054
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 1>naps in the car wherever. I mean, I had to

1055
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 1>dream a lot, and any time I woke up from

1056
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:48.399
<v Speaker 1>having this stream, I would be really fix my stomach,

1057
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:53.359
<v Speaker 1>very very mistauxious, and I would be that way all

1058
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 1>day long. As the day would went on, this feeling

1059
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 1>of being nauseus would slowly wear off, and then by

1060
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:05.359
<v Speaker 1>the time I went to bed that night, it would

1061
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:09.000
<v Speaker 1>be almost gone, and the next morning it would be gone.

1062
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so fast forwards to today, and I'm digging

1063
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.720
<v Speaker 1>through all of this information on aliens and UFOs and

1064
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:25.000
<v Speaker 1>going down all of these different rabbit holes, and plus

1065
01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:28.840
<v Speaker 1>we're getting all of these pictures bat from NASA of

1066
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the Martian landscape, and I have to say that my

1067
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 1>dream looks exactly like the Martian landscapes. All you need

1068
01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 1>to do is add some paths and these giant white schools.

1069
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:46.159
<v Speaker 1>So I got to thinking the other day, Like I said,

1070
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't given this a lot of thought, but now

1071
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:51.159
<v Speaker 1>with all of this happening in my life, I've rigged

1072
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:55.680
<v Speaker 1>salmon things and I came across well, somebody made a

1073
01:10:55.800 --> 01:11:00.760
<v Speaker 1>comment about spiders on Mars, and I started think about

1074
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:07.439
<v Speaker 1>schools and schools and spiders, and I decided to look

1075
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 1>up drones and I found rolling spider growns and they

1076
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:18.119
<v Speaker 1>look exactly like what was rolling around in my dreams.

1077
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what that center school, that the

1078
01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.279
<v Speaker 1>parks that connected the two wheels. I was always pretty

1079
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.600
<v Speaker 1>far away from these things in my dreams. Every once

1080
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.880
<v Speaker 1>in a while, somehow one of them would manage to

1081
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.920
<v Speaker 1>get close to me. I don't know how they would

1082
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:40.640
<v Speaker 1>get close, but I was a little girl, and I

1083
01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I would be sidetracked or something. But

1084
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:46.680
<v Speaker 1>either way, occasionally one of those things would get closer

1085
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 1>than what I would normally allow, and it would just

1086
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:56.439
<v Speaker 1>be very big. But when I saw these rolling spider drones,

1087
01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, I think that's what was in my dream

1088
01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:04.039
<v Speaker 1>was was drones. That's the only thing that I can

1089
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:07.800
<v Speaker 1>make sense of anyway. I mean, that's what they look like.

1090
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.439
<v Speaker 1>They looked the same. They were white, and the wheels

1091
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.199
<v Speaker 1>was the same. They just looked very, very big, and

1092
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:18.439
<v Speaker 1>they seem to be doing their thing, and they would

1093
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have got me. I think if they could have got me,

1094
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:24.600
<v Speaker 1>they would have killed me. And I don't know, maybe

1095
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:28.159
<v Speaker 1>that's how this little person died out there. The other

1096
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:32.520
<v Speaker 1>thing I came across while doing this digging for information

1097
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 1>on all of this is some of the physicists or

1098
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:42.079
<v Speaker 1>physicists that believes that Mars has a nuclear signature that

1099
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 1>can only be found when there has been a nuclear

1100
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:50.560
<v Speaker 1>device set off. And I just find it interesting that

1101
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I have this dream. I'm not someone that really believes

1102
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 1>in reincarnation, but there's been a ton of stories and

1103
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of interesting stuff out there. I just find

1104
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:09.119
<v Speaker 1>it interesting that it compares to the Martian landscape. There's

1105
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the drones, and then there's this feeling of being so

1106
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:18.520
<v Speaker 1>sick afterwards, which can definitely be attributed to radiation plasing.

1107
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 1>As far as my paranormal experiences go, I have had

1108
01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:29.479
<v Speaker 1>a situation I've been talked about with like the shadow figures,

1109
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:34.199
<v Speaker 1>and I did experience that back in my mid twenties

1110
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 1>when I was pregnant with my first child, and that

1111
01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.439
<v Speaker 1>was something I just really really thought. I did not

1112
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:42.560
<v Speaker 1>want to have anything to do with it. Man, I

1113
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:47.239
<v Speaker 1>went through my apartment. Anything I thought might be offensive

1114
01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to God. It was like gone, and so I had

1115
01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:55.199
<v Speaker 1>to deal look out for a little while. But somehow,

1116
01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I got through that. And I don't

1117
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:03.199
<v Speaker 1>know real problem with that because being raised as a Christian,

1118
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:07.840
<v Speaker 1>for me that the shadow figures were more like a

1119
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:12.000
<v Speaker 1>demonic thing. Now when I look at it, I don't know.

1120
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not a person is. When I was drifting off,

1121
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it would be like during the day and I would

1122
01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:21.960
<v Speaker 1>lay down to take a naps because I'd be so tired,

1123
01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's almost like you're kind of in a different

1124
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:30.560
<v Speaker 1>state of mind between sweep and being awake, and maybe

1125
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:37.199
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance to have an interaction with different dimensions

1126
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:40.640
<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't know, or it could have been demons.

1127
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. It was very, very scary, and

1128
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like it. I've had a number of paranormal experiences,

1129
01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>but I will talk about the foremost pertinent ones. The

1130
01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:55.119
<v Speaker 1>first one I had was when I was seventeen years old,

1131
01:14:55.960 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and this happened with both of my sisters, who at

1132
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:04.439
<v Speaker 1>that time were fourteen and fifteen, and we were living

1133
01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in a very old place back in the mountains in Idaho,

1134
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and my dad was working out of state, and my

1135
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:16.239
<v Speaker 1>mom at that time was working some kind of a

1136
01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:21.000
<v Speaker 1>little night just job at a restaurant, and so she

1137
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 1>was getting home pretty late, and we had I had

1138
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a very small brother and sister, so an older girl

1139
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 1>would take turns sleeping downstairs with the brother and the

1140
01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sister that were really little. They were like maybe two

1141
01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and four, two and five, and we did not have

1142
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:45.640
<v Speaker 1>night lights. When the lights went out, it was very dark.

1143
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 1>There were there were no other buildings around. This was

1144
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 1>ranch country, and so there was some other ranches in

1145
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the local area that mile a few miles away. And

1146
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:01.920
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, I pick up in the middle of the

1147
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:07.359
<v Speaker 1>night and I can hear this sobbing coming from the

1148
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:11.319
<v Speaker 1>sofa because where I'm at in the living room, there's

1149
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:15.760
<v Speaker 1>two bedrooms upstairs, and there is a bed in the

1150
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:17.800
<v Speaker 1>living room at one end of it, and that's where

1151
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sleeping with my brother and sister. I hear this sobbing,

1152
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking, well, I'm thinking it's got to be

1153
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:29.479
<v Speaker 1>one of my sisters. I do not think goes But

1154
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:32.760
<v Speaker 1>right next to the bed where I'm sleeping, on the

1155
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.239
<v Speaker 1>other side of the room, there is a doorway that

1156
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.279
<v Speaker 1>goes up the stairs to the other two bedrooms, and

1157
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.199
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of it's an old house, so that

1158
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:49.439
<v Speaker 1>stairways stairs is enclosed. And as I'm listening to this

1159
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:56.000
<v Speaker 1>woman sobs, I hear my one of my sisters say, Debbie,

1160
01:16:56.079 --> 01:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong? And I said, oh, I thought it was

1161
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:06.319
<v Speaker 1>one of you girls, and immediately the sobbing stopped, and

1162
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.039
<v Speaker 1>it was not me, and it was neither one of

1163
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:14.399
<v Speaker 1>my sisters. There is a story that there was people

1164
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:17.239
<v Speaker 1>that there was a cabin that was built on that

1165
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:22.399
<v Speaker 1>property that was nearby at some earlier point had burned

1166
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:25.640
<v Speaker 1>down and a child, a baby, had burnt up in

1167
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that fire, and it may be true. I think that

1168
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:34.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely was true, but that I kind of wonder if

1169
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.399
<v Speaker 1>that was the connection with this sobbing woman that we

1170
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.560
<v Speaker 1>had there in our home that night. That was the

1171
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:45.000
<v Speaker 1>only connection I could make to it was we had

1172
01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:48.159
<v Speaker 1>heard that story about the house fire and the baby,

1173
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and then we all three of us girls experienced this

1174
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:59.279
<v Speaker 1>woman crying in our house. My next paranormal experience happened.

1175
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I was living in Montana and my boys were little.

1176
01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:08.399
<v Speaker 1>It was not long after my first divorce and my

1177
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.560
<v Speaker 1>boys were like two and five, and I moved into

1178
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:17.039
<v Speaker 1>this mobile home that was on just a small piece

1179
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of land and had like a building at the back

1180
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and trees and stuff. It was a great place for

1181
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the kids and for somebody like myself that was just

1182
01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 1>trying is single and trying to survive. And anyway we

1183
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:35.079
<v Speaker 1>found out soon after we moved in there said the

1184
01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:38.399
<v Speaker 1>previous person that had lived there, a young man and

1185
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:42.079
<v Speaker 1>a young woman with this really small children. That the

1186
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:46.880
<v Speaker 1>woman had died like a terrible cancer, and he had

1187
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:50.840
<v Speaker 1>been widowed and left with two children. And so I'm

1188
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:54.199
<v Speaker 1>living there. I would see somebody in the house. I

1189
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>would see a woman. There were times when I would

1190
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.600
<v Speaker 1>go and put my boys to bed, especially my youngest son,

1191
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and when I would put them down to sleep or

1192
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:08.199
<v Speaker 1>put them down for the night, a lot of times

1193
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:10.079
<v Speaker 1>I'd be back out in the living room and I

1194
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:14.319
<v Speaker 1>would hear the door to the bedroom pop open. And

1195
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:17.079
<v Speaker 1>you really had to pull that door closed to get

1196
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it closed. It was one of those it latched. It

1197
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:24.000
<v Speaker 1>had a nice tight latch to it. It was a

1198
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>little bit too tight. So anyway, whenever it would pop open,

1199
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I would think, oh, here it comes. The baby is up,

1200
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I would stit in the living room

1201
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and wait and try to be quiet, thinking one of

1202
01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>them was going to be coming out very soon, and

1203
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:44.399
<v Speaker 1>then nobody would come out. And it got to be

1204
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>every time I would lay like I said, especially my

1205
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.600
<v Speaker 1>youngest down in the back, could not close the door.

1206
01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:54.239
<v Speaker 1>If I closed the door. When I put them to bed,

1207
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the door would be opened back up. And one night

1208
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:00.760
<v Speaker 1>my sister was there and she was sleeping out on

1209
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the front self thing. I was in the back and

1210
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:08.359
<v Speaker 1>very small place, and I hear her out there chatting

1211
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.479
<v Speaker 1>and visiting and pretty see. I'm like, who are you

1212
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:14.079
<v Speaker 1>talking to and she was, well, I'm talking to you,

1213
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I laughed, and I said, well, I'm

1214
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.880
<v Speaker 1>in bed in the back, and she goes, no, you're not.

1215
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.960
<v Speaker 1>You're sitting out here in the dining area. I was

1216
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.359
<v Speaker 1>not sitting in the dining area. She had seen a

1217
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>woman sitting in the dining area and that's who she existed.

1218
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it was probably the energy of the woman

1219
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that had been there. These last two, our last two

1220
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:43.720
<v Speaker 1>paranormal events were both had to do with men and

1221
01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:49.279
<v Speaker 1>their homes. The third one happened in Tennessee and we

1222
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:52.159
<v Speaker 1>had bought my husband was working on the East coast

1223
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 1>at that point and we had bought an acreage at

1224
01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>East Tennessee that had this very old home on it,

1225
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>leap little Cabins house, and part of it was newer

1226
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>than the other part. Part of the foundation had logs

1227
01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:12.560
<v Speaker 1>for foundations, and either way when I first moved in there,

1228
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:16.279
<v Speaker 1>it was like, almost immediately, like a second night that

1229
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I was sleeping there was I could hear a man

1230
01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:26.439
<v Speaker 1>walking across the wooden floor. Men's work boots are They

1231
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:29.600
<v Speaker 1>have a unique sound on a hardwood floor. They kind

1232
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:34.399
<v Speaker 1>of slumped and it was just like punk clung, just

1233
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of a slow, measured pace, and I got an

1234
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:45.199
<v Speaker 1>immediate thought of I'm not leaving, just a very obstinate

1235
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>feeling like I'm here, i am not leaving. This was

1236
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my home, this is my plan, I'm a part of this.

1237
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:57.199
<v Speaker 1>It was like a kind of all ball together and

1238
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, I didn't I don't want to mess

1239
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:04.279
<v Speaker 1>with those. I don't like to deal with their so

1240
01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much avoid all paranormal type things and aside

1241
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:15.880
<v Speaker 1>from UF posts anyway, Yeah, I heard this person occasionally

1242
01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:19.279
<v Speaker 1>during the few years that we lived there, and I

1243
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:25.239
<v Speaker 1>never heard this energy in any other rooms except the

1244
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:29.399
<v Speaker 1>very oldest, and pretty much that's all I ever was

1245
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>was just a walking through the house. We heard that

1246
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:38.199
<v Speaker 1>originally that property was owned back in the early eighteen

1247
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>hundreds by someone that had a little trading post there.

1248
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but the man that was there felt

1249
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>very determined and unmovable and very much planted in that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>My last that I'll tell you about as far as

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<v Speaker 1>my paranormal experiences, was in Levenon, Oregon, where the first

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<v Speaker 1>where the saucer siding took place. And I was at

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<v Speaker 1>that house. We were having holidays there, don't I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Thanksgiving. I don't think it was Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Thanksgiving. And all of the guys were

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<v Speaker 1>in the back part. All of the women were out

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<v Speaker 1>in the living room, and most of the men, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the men there were six foot or over. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all big guys. And I had got up in the

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<v Speaker 1>living room, walked into the kitchen and got a cut

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee, and was walking back into the living room.

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing in the living room. I had not

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<v Speaker 1>set down. I was standing behind the chair where I

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<v Speaker 1>was setting and I felt somebody suddenly standing right there,

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<v Speaker 1>really close to me, almost touching, but just not white.

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<v Speaker 1>And the person was really big, and I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was my oldest son, because he's he was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest guy in the house, and they were all

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<v Speaker 1>big guys, but this person was really big, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could see out the corner of my eye my peripheral

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01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>vision dip. He had on a black and yellow buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>check work shirt like the logging shirt, and the Lebanon

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01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.279
<v Speaker 1>area of Oregon is an old logging community. This person

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<v Speaker 1>was just so pleased and so happy to have all

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<v Speaker 1>of the family there in that home. That's what he

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01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>was about. He was about all of his family just

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<v Speaker 1>being together and being happy. He was so pleased. Yeah,

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01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it was just my paranormal experiences with men have been

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01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:55.319
<v Speaker 1>men and their homes and lands like just really tied

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<v Speaker 1>to that part of their life. And with the women

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01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:03.039
<v Speaker 1>it's been and women and those children. So yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>are my paranormal experiences.

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<v Speaker 6>Wherever you go there seems to be something which is

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<v Speaker 6>around you.

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<v Speaker 1>It does seem like that. But all of my life

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01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I've been able to just kind of pick up on

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01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>feelings from people. I call it skilling people because I can,

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<v Speaker 1>like so many of the guests that you have on

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01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>there is the ability to pick up emotions and good

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01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>energies and dark energies.

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<v Speaker 6>It is something which will sometimes go hand in hand

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<v Speaker 6>with these experiences. That's wonderful. Deborah, I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 6>you were nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have thought most of it was worn off

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01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>throughout today, but it really hung on there. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Nick. I really really appreciate it, and I

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01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed visiting with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Debra. I really appreciate having you on. It was wonderful

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<v Speaker 6>you to join us today and it's such an interesting story.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. Nick.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all right, keep in contact and I will be

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<v Speaker 6>in touch.

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<v Speaker 7>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>You enjoy the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You have left, so I will stay in contact next

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Nick, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Night, take care, bye bye. That is all for this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep updated and connected with the show on x Facebook

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<v Speaker 3>and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to share on the podcast, you can email me

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<v Speaker 3>at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can

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01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:31.000
<v Speaker 3>reach out to me via the contact page on my

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01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:35.199
<v Speaker 3>website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you

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<v Speaker 3>to Deborah and all our guests that I've shared for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, and a massive thank you for your

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<v Speaker 3>continued support because without you guys, this show wouldn't be possible.

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<v Speaker 3>A very happy new Year to you all.

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<v Speaker 6>I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe

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<v Speaker 6>and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.
