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a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
thirty one.
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of it?
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Speaker 1: See, I passed out over the thought of us. Ninety
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Speaker 1: They're after staying the airplanes? Hey, is I to god
on an unidentified object? Every liberty four call or calm
on an unidentified flying object?
Speaker 2: All right, we'll look it on.
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Speaker 1: What a year.
Speaker 4: It's been.
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park either. But in the words of Ralph Wildo Emerson,
it's not the destination, it's the journey. I'm Nick Hunter
and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our last guest
of the year is Deborah in Idaho, and she would
be sharing some of her UFO science and paranormal encounters
that have happened.
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with the show. Hello, welcome to the podcast. Him next,
it is wonderful to have you with us today and
you're calling from Idaho.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am northern Idaho, right along the Canadian border
and the Montana border.
Speaker 6: Oh lovely, so you're right up there on that small
strip of Idaho.
Speaker 1: Yes, Moye Springs.
Speaker 6: Okay, now, Deborah, you come here to share your experiences.
Would you like to start at the beginning, please.
Speaker 1: Ma'am, yes, thank you for having me. Next. My experiences
begin in twenty sixteen. I think it began actually when
I was born or soon after, but nothing really coalesced
for being until twenty sixteen. When I started, I had
my first sighting of a craft, and then I just
have continued to have that see different crafts throughout the
last seven years or so. Up until twenty sixteen, it
was very busy raising my children. I was going to school,
My sister was in medical school, and she had children
at home that I was helping her with. Our husbands
worked out of state. They were both did construction, and
so we were just kind of on our own raising kids,
going to school, and life was just a marathon at
that point. And by the time I got to twenty
sixteen April of twenty sixteen, I had my last board
exam and my nose had just been stuck in a
book forever, and once that board exam was over, it
was like I was just kind of on my own
little sabbatical. I could breathe a little bit. I had
removed some really big things from my place that was
just had become almost too much for me. So it
was kind of an odd time. Everything was kind of
settled down and slowed down. And I think I may
have already said that we were living in living in
Oregon at the time. We had just moved there. We
didn't intend to be there very long. We were kind
of in between spots, but we had been living in
Oregon for a while. We'd lived in mcmnfield and also
Salem when I first had When I had this first
sighting in twenty sixteen, it was the daytime sighting and
I got up, kept in the morning, took care of
my animals. I began my morning routine, which was let
my animals out that were going out and feeding the ones,
feeding everybody, making my coffee, and it was just kind
of a regular morning like that. I had one daughter
at home at the time, and she was up. She
was on the phone visiting with a family member, and
it was everything. My coffee was finished, my chores were done,
and so I had picked up my coffee and was
going outside and the back patio smoke a cigarette and
have my morning coffee, and I sat down at the back.
It was a beautiful day in April. The flowers were
bloomed out, the trees were bloomed out. There was a
few little puppy clouds in the sky, and I was
just very relaxed and just happy not to be sticking
any more information into my head and really enjoying my
time right then. And as I'm sitting there looking up
into the sky, there's this one little puppy cloud that
is just directly in front of me. This I think
I said that my bored exam was in April, and
this was in April, but this was I'm not sure
if this was at the end of April or in May.
I don't have a date for this one. It was
just very nice out at that time. And as I'm
looking up at the sky, I see a flying saucer
come out from this cloud and it looks like your
classic little flying saucer. There's a picture of one that
was taken in Macmnsville, Oregon, years and years ago. I
don't have the date right now. I would want to
say it was the fifties, that I could be wrong
forties or fifties, and it looked very, very similar to
this UFOs that was in the picture and others that
I've seen that it just came out from this little
cloud and just stopped right there in front of me.
When I saw it, I was just really excited and delighted,
and I thought it was just the funniest thing that
I was seeing a flying saucer right then. I remember
sitting there and just kind of giggling and thinking how
funny this was, and not believing that it was alien craft.
As far as I was concerned. What I was looking
at was government craft, and that I was just having
some kind of a funny little trick being played on
me and the rest of the people that live there
in that area. Because I'm thinking, you know, other people
are saying this, it's not up that high, and it's
definitely a flying saucer, So I'm excited to see it.
I think I have a funny response to it because
I have no interest in going in the house and
telling my daughter I don't think about it. I don't
think about going and getting my phone, taking a picture.
I'm just simply enjoying my coffee and my cigarette and
enjoying looking at this flying saucer that's setting up there
in the air in front of me. It's a really
dark gray, it's not black. It's like a gun metal grave.
It has bubble on top of it, like the classic UFOs.
The inverted bow of the top part is slightly deeper
than the bottom of it. The bottom of it is shallower.
It has rings that look like it's going around the
edges of it, but that's the only markings on it
that I can see. These just look like little grooves
that stap around the edges of it. Has the big
bubble on top, and there's no windows. I don't see
anything looking out. There's no movement, not going anywhere up
or down, sideways. Nothing. And so I finished my cigarette,
my coffee, and nothing has happened. It's still just setting
up there in the sky. And I go back into
the house. I'm like, well, I don't know, I don't
know why I didn't respond any differently to this thing
or think about it any differently, But I will go
back inside and I start just doing a few more
chores around the house. I put some laundry away, and
I don't tell my daughter anything about it. I still
don't go get my phone, but I can't get this
thing out of my mind. And so approximately thirty or
forty minutes to go by, maybe a little bit longer,
and I'm still thinking about this thing. So like, well,
I guess I'm I can't get this thing out of
my mind, and I've decided I'm going to go back
out there and see if it's still out there. So
I go and get another cup of coffee, get my cigarettes.
I walk back outside, and as soon as I can
get to where I can look and see if it's
still there, I look. I haven't sit down yet, and
it's not there any longer. Really disappointed, my god, I
really should have come out sooner and checked this out.
I'm already out there with my coffee again, and so
I sat down and I light a cigarette, looking up
at this little puppy cloud. The same little puppy cloud
is still there. It hasn't moved or gone anywhere. And
as I'm watching it, the flying Sauca comes back out
of this cloud, and there it is in front of
me again. And as soon as it does, I'm just
completely overwhelmed with this feeling of deja vous, and it's
really unsettling. It's like, wow, you know, it was this
thing waiting for me. I don't know. It was very odd,
and I didn't really have a whole lot of time
to dwell on this feeling I was having that was
a little bit spooky. I almost immediately had a feeling
that there was someone that was there with me, was
very very close, like just in my face. Just a
feeling of really extreme fear came old for me, and
I remember thinking, deav just moves slow, act normal, pretend
like you don't feel anything that's going on the presence
that you're feeling that's there. And so I put my
cigarette out and I picked up my coffee, and I
tried to walk as normally as possible back inside, and
I closed the sliding door and threw the drapes, and
I did not go back outside to the back of
the house again that day. If I went back out
at all, I went to the front. It was just
this very strange, unsettling experience. I never told anyone about it.
I didn't talk to any of my children about it,
which typically they hear all strange things from me that
I just thought, No, they're never going to believe me.
They're just going to think, well, mom's moms think she
saw flying sausa. So that was my first experience. My
second experience happened approximately a year later in an area
between Chenie and Tyler, Washington, and we had moved there.
My daughter was accepted into the university there. I was
trying to get closer to Idaho, where I'm from and
moving that directction, so I was happy to move there.
We ended up renting a little place between Tyler and Cheenie, Washington,
which is outside of Spokane, Washington. It was on a
very large ranch and there were three other places around
me to behind me and one off to the right.
That was basically it. It was very much in the country
and the close and accessible to the things that we needed.
This Spokane International Airport was maybe twenty twenty five minutes away.
There's an air Force base that is not too terribly
far away that area. The country there where I had
this sighting is known as the Polues. It has kind
of rolling hills that go up and down, and most
of it is planted with different crops that's raised there
and the rest of it, there's a lot of ranch land,
and the area we were living was a ranch, and
it was the place that the home I was in
was sitting on the top of one of these rises
of the rising hills, and so it kind of gave
a view of everything. It dropped down in the front
of me where I would go out and sit in
the mornings. There was a little port and there was
an area of land that just kind of dropped down
and was marshy, and then it was rolled back up
into together different parts of the out west where I
could see there was no other buildings around. On the
morning that I had the second sighting, it was it
started off just like any of my other mornings there.
I got up and I let my animals out, and
I walked outside, and it was just this really overwhelming day.
It was like I walked into some different type of world.
Everything was just crystal clear, and the colors were just
unbelievably vibrant, and everything was magnified. It felt like it
felt like all of my senses had been just turned up.
It was a dial. It was like it was turned
all the way as far as it would And I
remember saying, remember thinking when I walked out there, Wow,
this is this is a rare day. I've felt this before.
It's something that I've felt maybe once, maybe twice in
my life, but that's it. I've had this filling before.
I've felt like this before. There was just this filling,
a bliss and expectation of something really wonderful, like I
was getting ready to spend time with my family do
something fun. It was just overwhelming, and I had a
tough time dragging myself back inside to do all of
my chores that I had to do that morning, and
some of the animals had gone out, and I had
made I made my coffee. But usually if I make
my coffee, by the time I'm finished with all of
my chores, my coffee is done and then I can
go outside and sit down. And I kind of had
the same thing going on this summer. We had moved,
We'd have a number of things going on. My daughter
was away house sitting, my other daughter was still at
college in Oregon, and so I was home by myself
and just relaxing. No longer in a marathon, but just
some little sprints now. So when this morning rolled around,
it was it was just a nice relaxing morning, and
I was really looking forward to just enjoying my day.
So I went back inside and I started brushing around
doing my chores, and my coffee was making, and because
I had hurried through my chores so fast, my coffee
wasn't done when it by the time I got done,
and I remember remember mentally just trying to hurry my
coffee up so that I could go outside and have
my coffee. Anyway, I went outside and my coffee was
finally done. I went outside and I sit down on
this little porch that faces directly west, and I'm just
overwhelmed with the day. And I remember thinking, God, if
every single day was like this, it would be just
heaven on earth. It was just so incredible. There was
such an overwhelming feeling of perfectness, and it was like
everything wonderful in your life was just rolled into this
giant ball of bliss. I can't really describe it. It
was just such a big feeling, and I really didn't
question it except that it was something that I knew
I had experienced before that it was very rare. And
as I'm setting outside facing where a beautiful, beautiful day,
no clouds anywhere, the sky is such a deep blue.
I feel like I can look forever and ever up
into the sky and just see for a long ways
everything is just perfect. And as I'm sitting there enjoying
this day, a little filled mouse runs out in the
area in front of me, and one of my cats
goes after it, and I'm just distracted for a second,
and I'm thinking, nothing can die today. This little fillm
mouse cannot be caught, and so I'm making sure that
the little mouse is position in a way that he's
not going to be caught. He goes under a wood pile.
But I'm distracted at that point, and I'm not looking
up at the sky. I'm not looking out sky in
the countryside. I'm looking down at the cats in the mouse.
And just in the few seconds that I'm distracted by
the mouse was all it took for this craft to
show up. And when I looked up, there was this
massively huge craft in front of me, and it was
so big that I could feel my mouth all open
and i could feel my eyes just kind of pop
out of my head. It was so gigantic. It stretched
off to the right, and one end of it was
directly in front of me, looking straight west, but the
rest of this thing stretched off to my right going north.
And I don't know how big it was. I've gone
over this in my mind on the size, but the
size was it was too much for my mind. The
only thing I could think, and it sounds odd, but
the only thing I could think was that is the
biggest airplane they have ever made. And I was just
stuck with that thought in my head. I could not
move anywhere beyond that thought. That my mind froze there.
It was so big that you could you could have
taken very large passenger jets or just stacked them in
this thing like match sticks. It would have held thousands
and thousands of jets. I don't know how something, I
don't know how big something has to be to do that.
But it was very big, and I could only see
like I could see the other end of it peripherally
out of my peripheral vision that it was. It was
big enough that I couldn't concentrate rate on the entire
craft all at once. I had to kind of look
at it in sections. Almost I could see the whole thing.
That the park that was the nearest to me directly
in front is what I could was really focusing on.
It did not have any wings or tail fins, didn't
have any markings windows. Remember staring at the cone part
knows at the end of it and thinking, that's where
the pilot's supposed to be setting. I should be able
to see a pilot. This thing was gigantic, and it
took a long time from my mind to get to
the point where I could think about something besides the
size of it and where the pilot should be setting.
I had to just overcome the size first, and once
I got to that, once I was able to comprehend
the size of this things and I was able to
start thinking about the fact that it wasn't moving, because
I hadn't noticed that yet. My mind had not taken
that part in. It was like too much to begin with,
and it wasn't moving. It wasn't making any noise at all.
It was white. It looked like if you was to
take two passenger airplanes and cut them in half, and
then just take the two noses and stick them together,
make sure that there's no appendages anywhere, just this thing
and make it really really big. That's what it looked like.
No markings, no place for anyone to look out, just
this really really giant long thing in the sky, and
it wasn't up that high. It was just a little
ways above the trees. So anyway, I don't know how
long I sat there, just trying to take the this
thing in a while, and then I started thinking, you know,
I really need to get a picture of this. I
would like to get a picture of this, and because
otherwise no one's going to believe me. I didn't even
know what I was looking at. I'm still kind of
stuck in the airplane mode because I've never really my
mind hasn't been able to break through the ice that
this is alien craft. I am still stuck with this
is the largest airplane they have ever made, even though
it's not moving, it's not making any noise, and it
has nothing sticking out on it, and it's way too
big for an airplane that I'm thinking, I need to
go in and get my phone, But I know I
can't go in and get my phone because it had
shown up so quickly. When I looked down at the
mouse and the cat, my attention was averted only for
a few seconds, and I knew that as soon as
I turned my back on this thing, that there was
a very good chance it was just going to be gone.
I did not want to take that chance, and so
I just was like I was settled in there. It
was like, Okay, I'm not moving. I am not moving
until I see this thing leave. I am going to
see this thing leave. Somehow it got here, it showed up,
it got to leave. And as I'm having this thought.
Speaker 5: There's a flash of light on the very very top
and center of it, and I'm thinking, oh, this is
like a sparkle.
Speaker 1: Off of chrome off of a car. I mean, that's
what it looks like that there's nothing moving, that the
craft didn't move. The center's coming up. It's about by
this time, it's maybe ten o'clock in the morning. And
now everything that I'm going to tell you happened really
really fast. The first part of this story, it kind
of is just a stretched out, weird story with how
I felt and then this thing showing up. But this
second part, it happened very quickly. There was a flash
light on the top of it, and then as soon
as there's a flash of light, the end of the
craft that's right directly in front of me develops this
fuzzy energy line type thing along the end of it.
It runs from the top of the craft to the
bottom of the craft. But as soon as it's made,
this fuzzy energy line starts rushing towards the center of
the craft. And the same thing is happening at the
other end of this craft. And there's two fuzzy bars
of energy like the heat wave you would see over
the top of a highway. It looks like some kind
of energy line. And as these two bars of energy
that's the exit exact height of the craft and depth,
are rushing towards each other, the craft itself is disappearing.
As this fuzzy line passed over the craft, the craft
is no longer there. And my mind is I did
not know a mind could scream, but my mind just screams,
it's shrinking itself. That's the only thing I could think.
It is shrinking itself. These two bars of energy they
slam together. There's no sounds that I can see that.
They're just rushing at each other at a tremendous speed
right in the center of the craft, right for that
flash of light had been at the top. That's where
these two bars of energy are going to meet. And
they meet and as they meet. Now the craft is
completely gone. As soon as they meet, they become a
ball of light. And now this ball of light is
sitting down lower because this craft was really big. So
now this ball of light, it looks to me like
it's now below the tree line, and it's big, and
it's further down. Now. I'm looking off to my right
because when this craft trunk itself changed itself, I had
to look in that direction of that fuzzy bar of
light ran in that direction along the side of the
craft that I'm looking at. I can see this ball
of light down there. Soon as it becomes a ball
of light, it takes off at a tremendous speed south.
It goes me. It goes a long ways, maybe a
mile or two, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how
far I can see, maybe a mile. It goes for
a long ways and then it just shoots straight into
the air. And this is such an amazing day. It's
like I said, everything is magnified. The sky is just
this deep, deep blue, and this ball of light just
shoots straight up into the sky and I can see
it for a long time. At this point, I'm standing
up on the porch and I'm looking up the sky
and it's just a teeny tiny pinprick of light up there,
and then it's gone. And that was my second experience.
And as soon as it was finished, I was just like,
no one is ever going to belave me. They will
never belave me. That was just true.
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Speaker 1: Then I moved again. This time I moved where I'm
at right now. I moved to Moye spring I was
here for I moved here at the end of twenty eighteen,
and it was the end of twenty nineteen, so nearly
two years went by, approximately two years before I had
my third siding. My third sighting was here at Moye
Springs on this December seventeenth of twenty nineteen. Siding I
just spoke of was July twenty fourth of twenty seventeen.
That second sighting I just spoke of. One of the
things I forgot to mention is soon after that sighting
took place, I told myself, I have to get a
picture of an airplane or something right Therefore, I saw
that I wanted to know exactly where I saw that
craft stationed in the sky at that time, and I
figured the only thing I could do to kind of
keep that firm in my mind was to take a
picture of an airplane there. And because the air force
base and the airport was so close it was, I
figured it would be simple enough to do that. And
it took a little bit of time, maybe an hour
hour or so. I took picture of a jet airplane
that was right there. And it was really disturbing to
look that picture after I took it, because it was
so tiny. It was like looking at just a teeny
tiny little thing compared to what I had been looking at.
It was unsettling. I had two other things that happened
there at that place before I move on to where
I'm at now in Idaho. My oldest daughter woke up
at one point and in the morning and she came
out she's mom. Looked at my stomach, and on her
stomach and just up over the edge of her rib
cage was a full handprint that was a bruise. If
I was to put my hand and just set my
hand on her, it was like if you was to
leave an entire handprint on her. It's very odd. I
didn't like it that. I didn't really want to say anything.
I definitely did not want to mention aliens and no
contrust real beings or anything like that really get her
freak out. So I just kind of we just blew
it off as she hurt herself in the middle of
the night. As one of the stories we can tell ourselves.
I guess that at that time that's what we were
going with. Another night there, I woke up in the
middle of the night and my room was fully lit
it there was some kind of a light outside. I'm thinking,
is this the moon? Because this is like about the
brightest I've ever seen in my room. And I was
a little freaked out and spooked, and I refused to
get out of bed and looked so kind of buried
myself back in there and went back to sleep. But
that was a weird feeling, and the room was way
too bright to be like even a full moon. It
was just very, very bright, and the wind as a
curtains were drawn. So anyway, I moved to Moye Springs
and I'm now living there. It is December of twenty nineteen,
and I'm taking my dog out just before I go
to bed, and I go outside, and by this time
I've been doing some research on UFOs, and I've come
across your show and I'm thinking about talking to you
about this second experience that I've had, because it was
it just upended everything that I believed about this stuff.
I mean, I had kind of believed about that there
was something probably that I had not given it a
whole up thought. Anyway, when I went out, I had
been listening to a little more information on it and
was doing some research and not really expecting to see
anything else. And I went outside, walked towards the front
of where I'm living, and up in the sky were
two red orange balls just floating up there. And I
got the oddest sense of like, hey, guess what, we're
here too. And I was so shocked this time I
did not even hesitate. My phone was in the house,
it was plugged in that I'm like, nope, I'm getting
in my phone. This is too much. I'm going to
get a picture of this. So I went running back
in the house, yelled at my daughter. She happened to
be home, my youngest daughter, and I said go outside
and with in the sky. I didn't want to tell
her what to look for because I was afraid she'd
be like, oh mom, So I went and grabbed my phone.
She ran outside, and there's these two red orange balls
floating up and down. As we get out there, one
of them begins to disappear and it just completely disappears.
The other one remains, and it's just kind of rising
up and then dropping down. It's not going sideways, and
it looks like a weird energy ball. It's kind of
pulp stating. And so I start videotaping and my daughter
she's like, oh, Mom, can is this cold? Can I
go inside? And it is cold, it's winter time, and
there's no one ground. She really doesn't want to stand
out there and look at this red orange ball in
the sky. And so I'm like, yes, go ahead, go
ahead and go inside. I know you don't want to
be out here. And I just continued to videotape a
little bit. I tried to. It was really hard to
try to get a good clear picture, and I tried
to like zoom in slowly and getting as clear as possible.
And I did take a couple of videotapes and I finished,
and when I went to the house, that red orange
ball was still floating up and down in the sky.
And I didn't go back out to check and see
if it was still there or not. It was kind
of interesting the responses that we that I had to
this step. However, it makes me wonder why even I've
had some apathy to it. But my thought was after
seeing this, was I have got contact NIX because this
step is just these things are really starting to pile
up on me. And I was shocked to have this
good siding. Approximately two weeks later, fifteen minutes after midnight
on twenty twenty, my daughter and I had stayed up
to welcome into New Year, and she had gone to bed.
I was taking my dog out one more time. Where
I went to bed, there was still a couple of
fireworks going off, and I look over towards this mountain
range that's a part of the Rocky mountains here that
I can see facing south and hanging over the top
of this mountain range of three red orange balls, just
like what I had seen two weeks prior on the
seventeenth of September. And so I go back inside and
once again I get the same feeling of hey, we're
here observing, just checking out the place. And I go
outside and I start videotaping one of them. Disappears. Another
one is there for a while, and then pretty student,
there's just two of them are visible for a while,
but then one of the second ones becomes dimmer and lower,
and then there's just the one remaining up there. But
it stays there, and I do videotape for a bit
and I try to get the best picture I can,
but it is difficult. You can still see it there,
and then that is my four sighting. My fifth siding
is kind of interesting because this was my fifth side.
But since I've seen it, I've now seen it three
other times, and I've taken pictures each time. This happened
May whenning twenty meeting, sometime after the Red Orange Balls.
I have a picture, so it's timestamps that I don't
have it in front of me right now. Anyway, I
walk outside once again. It was in the evening, and
here coming towards me from the west is this swing
of light that is just absolutely beautiful, and I'm my
first thought is this looks like a spring of pearls,
and it's just incredible, and I'm just awed by it.
And as it's crossing over the top of me, I'm
trying to run in and get my camera that I
had just plugged my phone in it was almost dead,
and this thing now has passed over the top of
my home. So I'm running out the other side and
I finally get just one quick picture of it before
it's gone, and I'm just amazed at what I'm seeing.
I can't believe I've seen a fifth raft after all
of this. So I go inside and I start looking
up Spring the Pearls because that's what I just saw. Now.
The oddest thing with all of these sightings that I've
had experiences is they all seem to come with some
type of an emotional response, and then there's all kinds
of synchronicities that come along with it. And so I
looked up to Spring the Pearls and it's like, supposedly Starlink.
I'm like, okay, well, I was a little bit disappointed,
but not really buying it completely because of how I
felt whenever I saw this thing. It was just so
incredibly beautiful. And it was just not long after that
I was listening to Jane's from the A Steady Ranch
talk about Starlink and he made the comment that Darlink
was the new swamp Gap or today, and I thought
that's interesting and maybe makes a little sense. Maybe starlink
was made to counterdictie Contradictee's rumors. Well, well, I guess,
but not rumors, because people are seeing starlink or swings
the pearls all over the place. But I think, I
think it's possibility that maybe these springs of pearls is
something that the government couldn't hide, knew that they couldn't hide.
Maybe starling was developed so that there was an excuse
to have these big strings of light follow the sky.
I don't know either way. I had another weird experience,
well exactly a year to the day and one day later,
and I was on the phone with my oldest son
and we were having a really good discussion about this
sort of thing. And I don't know if I was
still on the phone with him or if I had
gotten off the phone at that point that I was
still thinking about the subject. And I pulled up my
photo of the spring of pearls and I'm looking at it,
and I look at the date on it, and I'm like,
oh my goodness, this was like exactly one year and
one day right now. And so I go to my
window and I look out my window, and there is
the spring of pearls set and s guy and I
take a picture. It's just getting ready to disappear over
the eastward horizon. I take a picture, and I have
that photo. My third experience with the spring of pearls
happened in September of this year. I'm going to skip
around a little bit because I'm going to stick to
sift this particular graph and for now. And I walk
outside once again. I am on the phone with my
oldest son and we're visiting, not about not about this
sort of thing, I don't think, but were just visiting
and having a good conversation. And I walk out onto
my front I look up, not even up up, because
my porch is elevated a little bit, and so I
just have a really nice view and Moya is there's
not a whole lot of light floating up here. And
as soon as I walk out, there is this beautiful
spring of pearls and it is It's just there. It
is not moving at all, it's not going anywhere, and
I'm just shocked. It's like, Okay, there's supposed to be
a satellite right now. I don't know anything about satellite.
Maybe they can make them stationary. I don't know, but
this thing is not moving. And I tell my son,
I'm like, hold on, there's something I've got to get
a picture of. And he's humoring me. He's like, Okay,
go ahead, mom, go get your phone. And so I
go inside and I grab my phone because I have
headphones in, and as soon as I grab it, I
open it up to the camera because I'm thinking, I'm
not going to get picture. It's going to be already
passed all the way over the house and gone by
the time I get out there. When I get out there,
my hand is still kind of moving when I take
the picture, so it's not the greatest, but it's still there.
I take one picture, I look down at my phone
and I look happen It's gone. And I'm thinking, this
doesn't seem like cal a satellite should be acting. But
I don't know enough about this. I saw this one
more time, and that was just this past month in
my Boysie, Idaho. It was actually at my parents' house
in Loser, Idaho. I happen to go out to my car.
This happened at like seven o'clock in the evening where
I'm at now with a specific time, so it had
been eight o'clock here in lloy Age. But I walked
outside to my car and coming over the horizon, is
this just unbelievable string of pearls again? And so I
go in the house. I have my phone. I go
into house and I tell my mom and dad and
brother are all in there, and I tell my brother
he should come out and take a look at this.
I think you'll find it fascinating. And I don't want
to say too much to my parents that gets them
excited because my dad's been having some heart issues and
staying with my mom, so they're both in their early
to mid eighties. Anyway, So my brother comes out and
he immediately starts recording. He's just fascinated. And my parents
come out. My mom just sees the tail end of it,
and my dad he says, he says, wow, I've never
seen anything like that. And this time they reacted completely
different than all of the other times. The first time
it passed from half to horizons. The second time it
was just on the horizon and I got a quick picture.
The third time when it disappeared, it was instantly every
single light in that string of pearls disappeared at once.
This time, what happened was as this string of pearls
came up and reached the apex of the sky, each
one of them would go to the same spot and
just disappear, one after the other. So those are my
sidings of the string of pearls. I have some other
sidings that are kind of odd. There's a photo out
I took a screenshot of it. Something that was happened
in I see Las Vegas. There was a reaction to
it and it looked like a giant bubble. I'm not
exactly sure if who was supposedly launching it, but it
looks like a big bubble. So what I saw was
hot peak and it was out here in the front
and once again I was on the phone with my
oldest son and I was standing outside it the summertime.
I don't have a picture of this. It happens very fast,
but there was just suddenly this giant hot paint bubbles
that went by in front of me. And I can
mention one other siding that happened. There's been a few
other listenings too, but there's another one that happened in Pacchini.
And aside from the first one I had of the
flying saucer that boots me. This one also scared me,
and it was a little bit different. So I'm in Cheenie.
My daughter is living there and my son in law,
and she's finishing school. They have an apartment there. They're
no longer they're living there, but she's finishing school, and
I'm spending a night with them. They have a deck
on the back where they live, and it's a two
story place, so it's elevated, and I have a really
nice view. I'm looking out over just kind of an
edge of Cheenie, and I see this really bright light
and it's way way too low to be a star,
and I'm thinking, well, I don't think it's an airplane.
It's stopped blinking that I'm really observing it, and it
just seems very very odd because it's too low to
be a star, and it's really really big and bright,
and so I'm watching it, and for some reason, I
typically don't think out towards these things, but this one
I did because they just kept getting brighter and brighter,
and finally I thought out towards it, Wow, you might
want to tone it down a bit there, brother, somebody's
going to notice you you're so bright. And instantly I
was given this feeling of just complete irritation and don't
tell me what to do, and you don't know bright.
This thing just blew up in size and just rushed
towards me. It became blue, kind of an odd glup
but not really a turquoise blue, but bleww, and it
just exploded towards me, and I blew out of my chair,
got to the front door. I had to go around
the apartment, and I got to the front and tried
to walk as normally as possible into the house without
alerting the kids to the fact that something had been
going on. So anyway, that's nick. That is pretty much
my sightings.
Speaker 6: Wow, interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've it's been interesting.
Speaker 6: You know, this has happened quite regularly over the last
few years.
Speaker 1: It did. I had never had anything like this happen
in my life. And it was like the minutes I
slowed down and took a breath and looked up because
my nose had been buried in a book for years.
I had been a mother and a wife at home
and decided to go back to school. Everything was just
really a grind. And when I got to twenty sixteen,
there had been a few things that were a lot better.
I had gotten rid of the school business, things were
going better for my kids. My marriage was on the
rocks and were divorced. Now that you know I was
dealing is some of the things that I had been
dealing with were better at that point. But when things
started in twenty sixteen, I have had just one siding
after another. I have no idea why that I just
keep seeing them.
Speaker 6: Was there anything in your past that really stands out?
Speaker 1: I have a number of things that happened to me
in my past, and I never really examined any of
those things and kill to this point, and and it's like, wow,
you know, some of this stuff makes a whole lot
more sense than what I'm looking at right or what
I was originally looking at, because I didn't that's just
that I didn't believe in UFOs. I was raised as
a Christian, that my thoughts of God is that God
is love and God is life. That's what God is
is life. And to me, it wouldn't It would only
seemed common sense that he would just like stuck the
universe of life. So the fact that there might be nonprest.
Real life wasn't something that I really dwelled on, but
I thought that there was a very good chance that
there was, and I did have some odd things happen
as I was growing up. I had times, like so
many of your guests, where all of my blankets would
be in the floor, or I would be upside down
in my bed. One night, when I was like about
sixteen years old, we had this full size bed and
it whatever reason, I don't know if it was a
homemade one or WoT, it was a wooden bed, but
it was set low to the ground compared to a
lot of the beds that you see, especially nowadays, I
don't know. It was very low to the ground. I
woke up in the middle of the night and I
was stuffed beneath this bed. There was absolutely no way
that I could have wriggened myself under this bed without
waking up, because I was fully jammed under there and
it was pressing down on me. How I got underneath
that bed, I have no idea things like that. What's
interesting is when I first moved to Oregon, I had
discovered these little tiny babies underneath my skin. While I
was living there at ms Mensville, and I don't even
know why I was pressing around on that side of
my leg, but it was almost like consciously I knew
that there was something there, and it felt like a
little tiny beeby bit. It was pretty deep down in
the muscle of my leg. And at another point, while
living in Salem, I found another one there. So I
had a couple of themen and I kept My thought
was that maybe I had a tumor and I was
dying because I did not think about implant and it
really bothered me to touch them. I did not want
to touch them, and so I pretty much ignored that
those things happened prior to my sighting. So there was
some things in my past that definitely could indicate something
was going on, and then also some bruising and some
things that your other guests have talked about, like gabbing
that looked like three little triangles. You had a guest
on at one point that said, we know for something.
Typically we know something even if we think we don't
know anything, And so I thought one day after I'd
listened to that show, I thought, you know, do I thought,
do I know? And the only thing I could think
of that I knew was that I was waking up
at three h three or three thirty three in the morning,
and so I started writing down I had not kept
track of any of the dates, so I started just
writing down the dates. And I didn't tell anyone what
I was doing. It was like, you know what, I'm
not even going to speak this out loud. I'm just
going to write it down and keep track of it.
And over the next few months, I kept track of
it for not quite a year, quite about a nine
month period. And when I went back and looked one day,
because I'd kind of write things down all over in
this notebook, I went back and looked and my day
dates were all of the seventh of the month, and
I thought, oh, so, yeah, this is this is kind
of weird. Maybe I do know something. And then situations
waking up with large bruises, like I have a picture
that I took of just this really big bruise on
my leg and once again it was on the seventh
of July. I think, I do want to mention one
thing that is kind of odd. So I do have
some people I can kind to talk to this about.
I haven't really gone way way in depth with especially
the emotional parts of it, like the feelings I'm getting
from these crafts or these experiences almost like a communication.
I haven't really gone into that. Sometimes I think it's
easier for people to accept maybe something solid they can
look at, rather than somebody talking about their feelings. Anyway,
I was talking to somebody that is very very close
to me about the siding, the second siding I had,
and I haven't talked to anybody about this. I mean,
I kind of mentioned it to my kids that, like
my daughters, they felt like a kind of a look
of fear in their eyes. And I don't know if
that was just because I was talking about aliens or
you know, they're also the concerns for their mother's mind.
I don't know, but I didn't want to scare my kids,
and so I try to just discuss this with people
who are a little bit more open to it. And
this person is much more open to these things, and
we have just some really enjoyable conversations like I do
with my older son. And not that I don't have
great conversations with all of my kids, but I typically
don't discussed aliens a huge amount with my girls. But
my boys are more open, and then I do have
a couple of friends that I can discuss these things with,
one more so than the others. But even way this day,
I was having a discussion with one of those friends,
and it was the day before the fourth of July,
so this took place on those that July. And this
person is a member of one of the three Letter
agencies here in America, and they have some fairly high
level clearance. And I just kind of assume that anytime
I'm visiting or hanging out with this person, that will
probably being observed and listened to, and not because of me,
but because of the high security work that he does
and what he's involved in. And so I just take
that for granted. But as far as talking about UFOs
or anything like that, that I never proved myself. And
so anyway, I had this discussion with him about this,
and we had a really good discussion about it, and
I told him most of my stories that I really
didn't go into the emotional part of it, Like I'm
not really sure how much I did to stay, but
I did not really get into that. I might have
touched on a little bit, and I didn't spend as
much time on the citing itself the experience of stuff.
I was a little more constent. But either way, the
next morning, when I got up, at some point in
the morning, I was outside and I looked down on
my arm, and on my right arm I had I
had aught looked like an IV brue. And I haven't
spent a lot of time at the hospital, but I
have been there when I had my babies, and it
looked exactly like an IV bruise, with a little bit
of scabbing and a couple of puncturemarks. So anyway, I
just thought that was the strange just thing. I didn't
like it. It's I don't like the idea of anything
or anyone coming into my home in the middle of
the night. So yeah, that was a little bit spooky.
It was like, Wow, this is I don't don't know
what to make of this. I don't know if I've
really even talked to this person about that. I do
plan on bringing a depth just to see what his
thoughts on. I don't know what feel safe, but I
just thought it was really odd that I had this
conversation and then the next morning I wake up and
I have got a bruise on the inside of my
right arm that looked like an IV bruthe with Marx
in it. I did take a picture, so I have
a picture of that. Also.
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Speaker 6: It's interesting that you seem to have like an emotional
connection to all your sightings, have different mixed feelings and
emotions that come with it. These aren't just lights in
the sky that you have seen.
Speaker 1: Y've all been kind of odd that the first one,
the saucer, for whatever reason, it scared me with that
feeling that someone was right there. I went from Okay,
I'm having deja vu to somebody is right there with me.
They're staring at me, if they're looking at me, if
they're close. And I don't know why that spooked me
so bad that it really did, and I really don't
know what to make it up. First sighting, it's like, Okay,
I seeing a flying saucer. I have no idea why
I saw it. I don't know what it means. I
don't know. I don't know what any of it means.
But I have felt like I am being shown craft, obviously,
and I think that the well, they're all really interesting.
That second sighting, that feeling that that I had experienced
that sense of with before, that I had felt that before,
but I have no memory of ever seeing any kind
of craft, so that part of it was way out
of the blue. I've never seen red orange balls. But
I think it's interesting that I got the sense of hello,
and we're here and we're just hanging out and observing.
And then with the string of pearls the starling, there's
four different experiences right there, and all four of them
are completely different. It would be one thing if I
had saw it all four times and I saw it
in exactly the same manner, moving across the sky, not
ever stationary, not ever just completely disappearing, not disappearing one
light at the time. And then, of course the when
I had in Cheenie where the craft just felt really
irritated and it just felt it felt like the bully.
It felt like a bully. And if like, well, and
I've given that some thoughts too, because we're hearing step
about Hyer frequencies and you know all of this. You
know that didn't feel real high frequency to me. And
so I think that just because something has a little
more power, a little more knowledge, doesn't necessarily make it
a step about me or you or anyone else. I
think that a lot of that's determined by how we
treat each other and other beings.
Speaker 6: So anyway, now, aside from these sciens, do you ever
recall any experiences of the paranormal kind? But whether it's
more present day or when you're a.
Speaker 1: Child, I have had paranormal experiences, and I have one
really occurring dream that I had from my earliest memory.
I'll tell you about my reoccurring dreams first, if you like,
and then tell you about my paranormal experiences. My reoccurring
dream tied in just a little bit more with the
sidings that I've had, I think, and with everything that's
gone on in the past. I started having this dream
when I was well. I've had it as far back
as I can remember. I stopped having it when I
was about eleven years old. So when I was a baby,
even being put down for a nap, a lot of
times I had to have this dream. And I hated
having the dream. It was scary, it was unsettling, and
I always woke up stick from this dream. In my dream,
I am on some kind some kind of a landscape
where I'm just jogging and running along. Everything is rusty
colored brand The rocks are brownish reddish rays, the dirt
the same color. The sky is the same color, a
little bit lighter, but everything is the same color, just
kind of a rust color. And there is no vegetation,
no live any kind anywhere. There's only rubble and rocks
and dirt. And in my dreaming, I am running. I
don't know what direction I'm running, but off to my
left is a more heels. I'm on the side of
a hill and they're rising up and it rises up
there for the back of those mountains that the mountains
look exactly like the land I'm on right now, just
this rusty reddish brown gray dirt and rocks. And off
to the right of me going down the hill is
the same thing. Everything looks exactly the same. It's just rubble,
and all of the country, all of the land, is
got these little tiny narrow paths running on them. There
are about the width of a railroad crass and these
paths have just been ground into a really fine calcum
powder like dust. And in my dream, I'm always exactly
the same age. I'm about maybe six years old. I
have on what feels like cotton top and bottom, and
they're white. I have on the white cotton shorts that
comes just above my knees. I have on a white
cotton T shirt that because of all of the dust,
I am all dusty and dirty too. I can see
that it's white. It should have been white. That I'm dirty.
And in my dream, I'm always jogging or moving at
the very least, and looking around. In my dream, the
only thing that is in my dream besides myself are
these giant white schools. And that's what I call them,
is schools, because I think that's the only thing in
my baby mind that I maybe could have seen at
some point that I could identify these things with like
a school of threads laid on its side and rolling.
That's what these things looked like, only they were the
size or as tall as like a Max truck. They
were very very tall, that they were skinny enough to
roll down these paths, and these schools were all over
the place. I could see them behind me, and in
front of me. I could see them down further down
the landscape, up going up towards the mountains. They never
went fast, and they never went sprow They all looked
like they were moving in exactly the same speed, just
rolling methodically along. They never ever stopped rolling, and I
didn't know what they were. They were just very, very scary.
Probably about the worst thing about this stream that I
really disliked the most was how I would feel when
I would wake up from it. And from the very
very beginning, when I was really small, I think I
can probably remember having the dream back to the ages
at least two, and I remember having the dream taking
naps in the car wherever. I mean, I had to
dream a lot, and any time I woke up from
having this stream, I would be really fix my stomach,
very very mistauxious, and I would be that way all
day long. As the day would went on, this feeling
of being nauseus would slowly wear off, and then by
the time I went to bed that night, it would
be almost gone, and the next morning it would be gone.
But yeah, so fast forwards to today, and I'm digging
through all of this information on aliens and UFOs and
going down all of these different rabbit holes, and plus
we're getting all of these pictures bat from NASA of
the Martian landscape, and I have to say that my
dream looks exactly like the Martian landscapes. All you need
to do is add some paths and these giant white schools.
So I got to thinking the other day, Like I said,
I haven't given this a lot of thought, but now
with all of this happening in my life, I've rigged
salmon things and I came across well, somebody made a
comment about spiders on Mars, and I started think about
schools and schools and spiders, and I decided to look
up drones and I found rolling spider growns and they
look exactly like what was rolling around in my dreams.
I don't know exactly what that center school, that the
parks that connected the two wheels. I was always pretty
far away from these things in my dreams. Every once
in a while, somehow one of them would manage to
get close to me. I don't know how they would
get close, but I was a little girl, and I
don't know. Maybe I would be sidetracked or something. But
either way, occasionally one of those things would get closer
than what I would normally allow, and it would just
be very big. But when I saw these rolling spider drones,
I'm thinking, I think that's what was in my dream
was was drones. That's the only thing that I can
make sense of anyway. I mean, that's what they look like.
They looked the same. They were white, and the wheels
was the same. They just looked very, very big, and
they seem to be doing their thing, and they would
have got me. I think if they could have got me,
they would have killed me. And I don't know, maybe
that's how this little person died out there. The other
thing I came across while doing this digging for information
on all of this is some of the physicists or
physicists that believes that Mars has a nuclear signature that
can only be found when there has been a nuclear
device set off. And I just find it interesting that
I have this dream. I'm not someone that really believes
in reincarnation, but there's been a ton of stories and
a lot of interesting stuff out there. I just find
it interesting that it compares to the Martian landscape. There's
the drones, and then there's this feeling of being so
sick afterwards, which can definitely be attributed to radiation plasing.
As far as my paranormal experiences go, I have had
a situation I've been talked about with like the shadow figures,
and I did experience that back in my mid twenties
when I was pregnant with my first child, and that
was something I just really really thought. I did not
want to have anything to do with it. Man, I
went through my apartment. Anything I thought might be offensive
to God. It was like gone, and so I had
to deal look out for a little while. But somehow,
I don't know, I got through that. And I don't
know real problem with that because being raised as a Christian,
for me that the shadow figures were more like a
demonic thing. Now when I look at it, I don't know.
Maybe not a person is. When I was drifting off,
it would be like during the day and I would
lay down to take a naps because I'd be so tired,
and it's almost like you're kind of in a different
state of mind between sweep and being awake, and maybe
there's a chance to have an interaction with different dimensions
or something. I don't know, or it could have been demons.
I have no idea. It was very, very scary, and
I didn't like it. I've had a number of paranormal experiences,
but I will talk about the foremost pertinent ones. The
first one I had was when I was seventeen years old,
and this happened with both of my sisters, who at
that time were fourteen and fifteen, and we were living
in a very old place back in the mountains in Idaho,
and my dad was working out of state, and my
mom at that time was working some kind of a
little night just job at a restaurant, and so she
was getting home pretty late, and we had I had
a very small brother and sister, so an older girl
would take turns sleeping downstairs with the brother and the
sister that were really little. They were like maybe two
and four, two and five, and we did not have
night lights. When the lights went out, it was very dark.
There were there were no other buildings around. This was
ranch country, and so there was some other ranches in
the local area that mile a few miles away. And
so anyway, I pick up in the middle of the
night and I can hear this sobbing coming from the
sofa because where I'm at in the living room, there's
two bedrooms upstairs, and there is a bed in the
living room at one end of it, and that's where
I'm sleeping with my brother and sister. I hear this sobbing,
and I'm thinking, well, I'm thinking it's got to be
one of my sisters. I do not think goes But
right next to the bed where I'm sleeping, on the
other side of the room, there is a doorway that
goes up the stairs to the other two bedrooms, and
so it's kind of it's an old house, so that
stairways stairs is enclosed. And as I'm listening to this
woman sobs, I hear my one of my sisters say, Debbie,
what's wrong? And I said, oh, I thought it was
one of you girls, and immediately the sobbing stopped, and
it was not me, and it was neither one of
my sisters. There is a story that there was people
that there was a cabin that was built on that
property that was nearby at some earlier point had burned
down and a child, a baby, had burnt up in
that fire, and it may be true. I think that
definitely was true, but that I kind of wonder if
that was the connection with this sobbing woman that we
had there in our home that night. That was the
only connection I could make to it was we had
heard that story about the house fire and the baby,
and then we all three of us girls experienced this
woman crying in our house. My next paranormal experience happened.
I was living in Montana and my boys were little.
It was not long after my first divorce and my
boys were like two and five, and I moved into
this mobile home that was on just a small piece
of land and had like a building at the back
and trees and stuff. It was a great place for
the kids and for somebody like myself that was just
trying is single and trying to survive. And anyway we
found out soon after we moved in there said the
previous person that had lived there, a young man and
a young woman with this really small children. That the
woman had died like a terrible cancer, and he had
been widowed and left with two children. And so I'm
living there. I would see somebody in the house. I
would see a woman. There were times when I would
go and put my boys to bed, especially my youngest son,
and when I would put them down to sleep or
put them down for the night, a lot of times
I'd be back out in the living room and I
would hear the door to the bedroom pop open. And
you really had to pull that door closed to get
it closed. It was one of those it latched. It
had a nice tight latch to it. It was a
little bit too tight. So anyway, whenever it would pop open,
I would think, oh, here it comes. The baby is up,
you know, And I would stit in the living room
and wait and try to be quiet, thinking one of
them was going to be coming out very soon, and
then nobody would come out. And it got to be
every time I would lay like I said, especially my
youngest down in the back, could not close the door.
If I closed the door. When I put them to bed,
the door would be opened back up. And one night
my sister was there and she was sleeping out on
the front self thing. I was in the back and
very small place, and I hear her out there chatting
and visiting and pretty see. I'm like, who are you
talking to and she was, well, I'm talking to you,
and I said, I laughed, and I said, well, I'm
in bed in the back, and she goes, no, you're not.
You're sitting out here in the dining area. I was
not sitting in the dining area. She had seen a
woman sitting in the dining area and that's who she existed.
I think it was probably the energy of the woman
that had been there. These last two, our last two
paranormal events were both had to do with men and
their homes. The third one happened in Tennessee and we
had bought my husband was working on the East coast
at that point and we had bought an acreage at
East Tennessee that had this very old home on it,
leap little Cabins house, and part of it was newer
than the other part. Part of the foundation had logs
for foundations, and either way when I first moved in there,
it was like, almost immediately, like a second night that
I was sleeping there was I could hear a man
walking across the wooden floor. Men's work boots are They
have a unique sound on a hardwood floor. They kind
of slumped and it was just like punk clung, just
kind of a slow, measured pace, and I got an
immediate thought of I'm not leaving, just a very obstinate
feeling like I'm here, i am not leaving. This was
my home, this is my plan, I'm a part of this.
It was like a kind of all ball together and
I'm like, okay, I didn't I don't want to mess
with those. I don't like to deal with their so
I pretty much avoid all paranormal type things and aside
from UF posts anyway, Yeah, I heard this person occasionally
during the few years that we lived there, and I
never heard this energy in any other rooms except the
very oldest, and pretty much that's all I ever was
was just a walking through the house. We heard that
originally that property was owned back in the early eighteen
hundreds by someone that had a little trading post there.
I don't know, but the man that was there felt
very determined and unmovable and very much planted in that spot.
My last that I'll tell you about as far as
my paranormal experiences, was in Levenon, Oregon, where the first
where the saucer siding took place. And I was at
that house. We were having holidays there, don't I think
it was Thanksgiving. I don't think it was Christmas. I
think it was Thanksgiving. And all of the guys were
in the back part. All of the women were out
in the living room, and most of the men, all
of the men there were six foot or over. They're
all big guys. And I had got up in the
living room, walked into the kitchen and got a cut
of coffee, and was walking back into the living room.
I was standing in the living room. I had not
set down. I was standing behind the chair where I
was setting and I felt somebody suddenly standing right there,
really close to me, almost touching, but just not white.
And the person was really big, and I thought I
thought it was my oldest son, because he's he was
the biggest guy in the house, and they were all
big guys, but this person was really big, and I
could see out the corner of my eye my peripheral
vision dip. He had on a black and yellow buffalo
check work shirt like the logging shirt, and the Lebanon
area of Oregon is an old logging community. This person
was just so pleased and so happy to have all
of the family there in that home. That's what he
was about. He was about all of his family just
being together and being happy. He was so pleased. Yeah,
it was just my paranormal experiences with men have been
men and their homes and lands like just really tied
to that part of their life. And with the women
it's been and women and those children. So yeah, those
are my paranormal experiences.
Speaker 6: Wherever you go there seems to be something which is
around you.
Speaker 1: It does seem like that. But all of my life
I've been able to just kind of pick up on
feelings from people. I call it skilling people because I can,
like so many of the guests that you have on
there is the ability to pick up emotions and good
energies and dark energies.
Speaker 6: It is something which will sometimes go hand in hand
with these experiences. That's wonderful. Deborah, I don't understand how
you were nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have thought most of it was worn off
throughout today, but it really hung on there. Thank you
very much. Nick. I really really appreciate it, and I
really enjoyed visiting with you.
Speaker 6: Debra. I really appreciate having you on. It was wonderful
you to join us today and it's such an interesting story.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Nick.
Speaker 6: That's all right, keep in contact and I will be
in touch.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 6: You enjoy the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: You have left, so I will stay in contact next
Thank you, Nick, good.
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