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Speaker 1: You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every

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thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Do you wish to report a UFO over, Hey, we

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want to one.

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Speaker 1: Of those areas thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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of it?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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Speaker 3: Areas thirty one me neither.

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Speaker 2: There were seven one golf.

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Speaker 4: If it was anybody as above us to pass us,

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like thirty seconds ago.

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Speaker 3: We were sending one of golf negative.

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Speaker 2: Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's murder. Ten o'clock.

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Speaker 5: Yes, if you passed over, I got I don't know

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what it was.

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Speaker 6: But it's from at least to three thousand feet above us.

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Speaker 1: See, I passed out over the thought of us. Ninety

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one one.

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Speaker 5: You just called both to be be fours.

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Speaker 1: They're after staying the airplanes? Hey, is I to god

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on an unidentified object? Every liberty four call or calm

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on an unidentified flying object?

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll look it on.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their

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experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter,

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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Here we are

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on the last day of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: What a year.

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Speaker 4: It's been.

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Speaker 3: Well done you all for making it this far. I

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won't be expecting twenty twenty four to walk in the

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park either. But in the words of Ralph Wildo Emerson,

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it's not the destination, it's the journey. I'm Nick Hunter

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and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our last guest

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of the year is Deborah in Idaho, and she would

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be sharing some of her UFO science and paranormal encounters

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that have happened.

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Speaker 2: Over the last few years. Deborah is up mixed. But first,

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this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now on

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with the show. Hello, welcome to the podcast. Him next,

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it is wonderful to have you with us today and

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you're calling from Idaho.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am northern Idaho, right along the Canadian border

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and the Montana border.

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Speaker 6: Oh lovely, so you're right up there on that small

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strip of Idaho.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Moye Springs.

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Speaker 6: Okay, now, Deborah, you come here to share your experiences.

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Would you like to start at the beginning, please.

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Speaker 1: Ma'am, yes, thank you for having me. Next. My experiences

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begin in twenty sixteen. I think it began actually when

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I was born or soon after, but nothing really coalesced

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for being until twenty sixteen. When I started, I had

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my first sighting of a craft, and then I just

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have continued to have that see different crafts throughout the

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last seven years or so. Up until twenty sixteen, it

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was very busy raising my children. I was going to school,

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My sister was in medical school, and she had children

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at home that I was helping her with. Our husbands

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worked out of state. They were both did construction, and

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so we were just kind of on our own raising kids,

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going to school, and life was just a marathon at

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that point. And by the time I got to twenty

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sixteen April of twenty sixteen, I had my last board

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exam and my nose had just been stuck in a

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book forever, and once that board exam was over, it

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was like I was just kind of on my own

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little sabbatical. I could breathe a little bit. I had

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removed some really big things from my place that was

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just had become almost too much for me. So it

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was kind of an odd time. Everything was kind of

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settled down and slowed down. And I think I may

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have already said that we were living in living in

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Oregon at the time. We had just moved there. We

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didn't intend to be there very long. We were kind

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of in between spots, but we had been living in

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Oregon for a while. We'd lived in mcmnfield and also

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Salem when I first had When I had this first

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sighting in twenty sixteen, it was the daytime sighting and

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I got up, kept in the morning, took care of

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my animals. I began my morning routine, which was let

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my animals out that were going out and feeding the ones,

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feeding everybody, making my coffee, and it was just kind

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of a regular morning like that. I had one daughter

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at home at the time, and she was up. She

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was on the phone visiting with a family member, and

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it was everything. My coffee was finished, my chores were done,

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and so I had picked up my coffee and was

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going outside and the back patio smoke a cigarette and

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have my morning coffee, and I sat down at the back.

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It was a beautiful day in April. The flowers were

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bloomed out, the trees were bloomed out. There was a

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few little puppy clouds in the sky, and I was

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just very relaxed and just happy not to be sticking

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any more information into my head and really enjoying my

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time right then. And as I'm sitting there looking up

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into the sky, there's this one little puppy cloud that

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is just directly in front of me. This I think

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I said that my bored exam was in April, and

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this was in April, but this was I'm not sure

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if this was at the end of April or in May.

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I don't have a date for this one. It was

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just very nice out at that time. And as I'm

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looking up at the sky, I see a flying saucer

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come out from this cloud and it looks like your

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classic little flying saucer. There's a picture of one that

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was taken in Macmnsville, Oregon, years and years ago. I

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don't have the date right now. I would want to

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say it was the fifties, that I could be wrong

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forties or fifties, and it looked very, very similar to

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this UFOs that was in the picture and others that

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I've seen that it just came out from this little

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cloud and just stopped right there in front of me.

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and I thought it was just the funniest thing that

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I was seeing a flying saucer right then. I remember

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sitting there and just kind of giggling and thinking how

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funny this was, and not believing that it was alien craft.

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at was government craft, and that I was just having

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some kind of a funny little trick being played on

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me and the rest of the people that live there

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in that area. Because I'm thinking, you know, other people

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are saying this, it's not up that high, and it's

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definitely a flying saucer, So I'm excited to see it.

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I have no interest in going in the house and

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telling my daughter I don't think about it. I don't

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think about going and getting my phone, taking a picture.

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I'm just simply enjoying my coffee and my cigarette and

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enjoying looking at this flying saucer that's setting up there

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in the air in front of me. It's a really

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dark gray, it's not black. It's like a gun metal grave.

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than the bottom of it. The bottom of it is shallower.

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edges of it, but that's the only markings on it

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that I can see. These just look like little grooves

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that stap around the edges of it. Has the big

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bubble on top, and there's no windows. I don't see

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anything looking out. There's no movement, not going anywhere up

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or down, sideways. Nothing. And so I finished my cigarette,

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my coffee, and nothing has happened. It's still just setting

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up there in the sky. And I go back into

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the house. I'm like, well, I don't know, I don't

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know why I didn't respond any differently to this thing

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or think about it any differently, But I will go

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back inside and I start just doing a few more

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chores around the house. I put some laundry away, and

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I don't tell my daughter anything about it. I still

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don't go get my phone, but I can't get this

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thing out of my mind. And so approximately thirty or

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forty minutes to go by, maybe a little bit longer,

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and I'm still thinking about this thing. So like, well,

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I guess I'm I can't get this thing out of

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my mind, and I've decided I'm going to go back

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out there and see if it's still out there. So

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I go and get another cup of coffee, get my cigarettes.

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I walk back outside, and as soon as I can

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get to where I can look and see if it's

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still there, I look. I haven't sit down yet, and

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it's not there any longer. Really disappointed, my god, I

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really should have come out sooner and checked this out.

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I'm already out there with my coffee again, and so

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I sat down and I light a cigarette, looking up

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at this little puppy cloud. The same little puppy cloud

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is still there. It hasn't moved or gone anywhere. And

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as I'm watching it, the flying Sauca comes back out

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of this cloud, and there it is in front of

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me again. And as soon as it does, I'm just

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completely overwhelmed with this feeling of deja vous, and it's

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really unsettling. It's like, wow, you know, it was this

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thing waiting for me. I don't know. It was very odd,

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and I didn't really have a whole lot of time

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to dwell on this feeling I was having that was

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a little bit spooky. I almost immediately had a feeling

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that there was someone that was there with me, was

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very very close, like just in my face. Just a

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feeling of really extreme fear came old for me, and

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I remember thinking, deav just moves slow, act normal, pretend

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like you don't feel anything that's going on the presence

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that you're feeling that's there. And so I put my

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cigarette out and I picked up my coffee, and I

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tried to walk as normally as possible back inside, and

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I closed the sliding door and threw the drapes, and

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I did not go back outside to the back of

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the house again that day. If I went back out

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at all, I went to the front. It was just

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this very strange, unsettling experience. I never told anyone about it.

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I didn't talk to any of my children about it,

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which typically they hear all strange things from me that

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I just thought, No, they're never going to believe me.

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They're just going to think, well, mom's moms think she

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saw flying sausa. So that was my first experience. My

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second experience happened approximately a year later in an area

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between Chenie and Tyler, Washington, and we had moved there.

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My daughter was accepted into the university there. I was

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trying to get closer to Idaho, where I'm from and

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moving that directction, so I was happy to move there.

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We ended up renting a little place between Tyler and Cheenie, Washington,

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which is outside of Spokane, Washington. It was on a

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very large ranch and there were three other places around

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me to behind me and one off to the right.

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That was basically it. It was very much in the country

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and the close and accessible to the things that we needed.

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This Spokane International Airport was maybe twenty twenty five minutes away.

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There's an air Force base that is not too terribly

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far away that area. The country there where I had

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this sighting is known as the Polues. It has kind

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of rolling hills that go up and down, and most

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of it is planted with different crops that's raised there

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and the rest of it, there's a lot of ranch land,

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and the area we were living was a ranch, and

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it was the place that the home I was in

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was sitting on the top of one of these rises

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of the rising hills, and so it kind of gave

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a view of everything. It dropped down in the front

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of me where I would go out and sit in

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the mornings. There was a little port and there was

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an area of land that just kind of dropped down

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and was marshy, and then it was rolled back up

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into together different parts of the out west where I

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could see there was no other buildings around. On the

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morning that I had the second sighting, it was it

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started off just like any of my other mornings there.

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I got up and I let my animals out, and

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I walked outside, and it was just this really overwhelming day.

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It was like I walked into some different type of world.

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Everything was just crystal clear, and the colors were just

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unbelievably vibrant, and everything was magnified. It felt like it

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felt like all of my senses had been just turned up.

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It was a dial. It was like it was turned

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all the way as far as it would And I

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remember saying, remember thinking when I walked out there, Wow,

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this is this is a rare day. I've felt this before.

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It's something that I've felt maybe once, maybe twice in

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my life, but that's it. I've had this filling before.

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I've felt like this before. There was just this filling,

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a bliss and expectation of something really wonderful, like I

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was getting ready to spend time with my family do

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something fun. It was just overwhelming, and I had a

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tough time dragging myself back inside to do all of

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my chores that I had to do that morning, and

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some of the animals had gone out, and I had

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made I made my coffee. But usually if I make

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my coffee, by the time I'm finished with all of

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my chores, my coffee is done and then I can

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go outside and sit down. And I kind of had

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the same thing going on this summer. We had moved,

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We'd have a number of things going on. My daughter

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was away house sitting, my other daughter was still at

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college in Oregon, and so I was home by myself

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and just relaxing. No longer in a marathon, but just

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some little sprints now. So when this morning rolled around,

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it was it was just a nice relaxing morning, and

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I was really looking forward to just enjoying my day.

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So I went back inside and I started brushing around

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doing my chores, and my coffee was making, and because

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I had hurried through my chores so fast, my coffee

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wasn't done when it by the time I got done,

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and I remember remember mentally just trying to hurry my

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coffee up so that I could go outside and have

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my coffee. Anyway, I went outside and my coffee was

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finally done. I went outside and I sit down on

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this little porch that faces directly west, and I'm just

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overwhelmed with the day. And I remember thinking, God, if

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every single day was like this, it would be just

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heaven on earth. It was just so incredible. There was

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such an overwhelming feeling of perfectness, and it was like

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everything wonderful in your life was just rolled into this

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giant ball of bliss. I can't really describe it. It

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was just such a big feeling, and I really didn't

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question it except that it was something that I knew

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I had experienced before that it was very rare. And

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as I'm setting outside facing where a beautiful, beautiful day,

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no clouds anywhere, the sky is such a deep blue.

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I feel like I can look forever and ever up

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into the sky and just see for a long ways

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everything is just perfect. And as I'm sitting there enjoying

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this day, a little filled mouse runs out in the

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area in front of me, and one of my cats

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goes after it, and I'm just distracted for a second,

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and I'm thinking, nothing can die today. This little fillm

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mouse cannot be caught, and so I'm making sure that

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the little mouse is position in a way that he's

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not going to be caught. He goes under a wood pile.

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But I'm distracted at that point, and I'm not looking

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up at the sky. I'm not looking out sky in

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the countryside. I'm looking down at the cats in the mouse.

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And just in the few seconds that I'm distracted by

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the mouse was all it took for this craft to

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show up. And when I looked up, there was this

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massively huge craft in front of me, and it was

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so big that I could feel my mouth all open

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and i could feel my eyes just kind of pop

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out of my head. It was so gigantic. It stretched

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off to the right, and one end of it was

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directly in front of me, looking straight west, but the

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rest of this thing stretched off to my right going north.

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And I don't know how big it was. I've gone

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over this in my mind on the size, but the

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size was it was too much for my mind. The

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only thing I could think, and it sounds odd, but

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the only thing I could think was that is the

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biggest airplane they have ever made. And I was just

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stuck with that thought in my head. I could not

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move anywhere beyond that thought. That my mind froze there.

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It was so big that you could you could have

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taken very large passenger jets or just stacked them in

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this thing like match sticks. It would have held thousands

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and thousands of jets. I don't know how something, I

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don't know how big something has to be to do that.

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But it was very big, and I could only see

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like I could see the other end of it peripherally

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out of my peripheral vision that it was. It was

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big enough that I couldn't concentrate rate on the entire

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craft all at once. I had to kind of look

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at it in sections. Almost I could see the whole thing.

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That the park that was the nearest to me directly

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in front is what I could was really focusing on.

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It did not have any wings or tail fins, didn't

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have any markings windows. Remember staring at the cone part

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knows at the end of it and thinking, that's where

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the pilot's supposed to be setting. I should be able

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to see a pilot. This thing was gigantic, and it

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took a long time from my mind to get to

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the point where I could think about something besides the

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size of it and where the pilot should be setting.

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I had to just overcome the size first, and once

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I got to that, once I was able to comprehend

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the size of this things and I was able to

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start thinking about the fact that it wasn't moving, because

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I hadn't noticed that yet. My mind had not taken

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that part in. It was like too much to begin with,

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and it wasn't moving. It wasn't making any noise at all.

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It was white. It looked like if you was to

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take two passenger airplanes and cut them in half, and

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then just take the two noses and stick them together,

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make sure that there's no appendages anywhere, just this thing

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and make it really really big. That's what it looked like.

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No markings, no place for anyone to look out, just

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this really really giant long thing in the sky, and

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it wasn't up that high. It was just a little

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ways above the trees. So anyway, I don't know how

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long I sat there, just trying to take the this

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thing in a while, and then I started thinking, you know,

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I really need to get a picture of this. I

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would like to get a picture of this, and because

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otherwise no one's going to believe me. I didn't even

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know what I was looking at. I'm still kind of

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stuck in the airplane mode because I've never really my

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mind hasn't been able to break through the ice that

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this is alien craft. I am still stuck with this

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is the largest airplane they have ever made, even though

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it's not moving, it's not making any noise, and it

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has nothing sticking out on it, and it's way too

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big for an airplane that I'm thinking, I need to

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go in and get my phone, But I know I

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can't go in and get my phone because it had

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shown up so quickly. When I looked down at the

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mouse and the cat, my attention was averted only for

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a few seconds, and I knew that as soon as

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I turned my back on this thing, that there was

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a very good chance it was just going to be gone.

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I did not want to take that chance, and so

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I just was like I was settled in there. It

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was like, Okay, I'm not moving. I am not moving

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until I see this thing leave. I am going to

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see this thing leave. Somehow it got here, it showed up,

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it got to leave. And as I'm having this thought.

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Speaker 5: There's a flash of light on the very very top

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and center of it, and I'm thinking, oh, this is

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like a sparkle.

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Speaker 1: Off of chrome off of a car. I mean, that's

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what it looks like that there's nothing moving, that the

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craft didn't move. The center's coming up. It's about by

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this time, it's maybe ten o'clock in the morning. And

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now everything that I'm going to tell you happened really

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really fast. The first part of this story, it kind

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of is just a stretched out, weird story with how

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I felt and then this thing showing up. But this

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second part, it happened very quickly. There was a flash

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light on the top of it, and then as soon

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as there's a flash of light, the end of the

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craft that's right directly in front of me develops this

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fuzzy energy line type thing along the end of it.

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It runs from the top of the craft to the

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bottom of the craft. But as soon as it's made,

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this fuzzy energy line starts rushing towards the center of

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the craft. And the same thing is happening at the

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other end of this craft. And there's two fuzzy bars

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of energy like the heat wave you would see over

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the top of a highway. It looks like some kind

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of energy line. And as these two bars of energy

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that's the exit exact height of the craft and depth,

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are rushing towards each other, the craft itself is disappearing.

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As this fuzzy line passed over the craft, the craft

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is no longer there. And my mind is I did

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not know a mind could scream, but my mind just screams,

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it's shrinking itself. That's the only thing I could think.

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It is shrinking itself. These two bars of energy they

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slam together. There's no sounds that I can see that.

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They're just rushing at each other at a tremendous speed

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right in the center of the craft, right for that

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flash of light had been at the top. That's where

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these two bars of energy are going to meet. And

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they meet and as they meet. Now the craft is

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completely gone. As soon as they meet, they become a

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ball of light. And now this ball of light is

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sitting down lower because this craft was really big. So

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now this ball of light, it looks to me like

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it's now below the tree line, and it's big, and

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it's further down. Now. I'm looking off to my right

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because when this craft trunk itself changed itself, I had

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to look in that direction of that fuzzy bar of

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light ran in that direction along the side of the

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craft that I'm looking at. I can see this ball

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of light down there. Soon as it becomes a ball

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of light, it takes off at a tremendous speed south.

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It goes me. It goes a long ways, maybe a

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mile or two, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how

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far I can see, maybe a mile. It goes for

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a long ways and then it just shoots straight into

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the air. And this is such an amazing day. It's

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like I said, everything is magnified. The sky is just

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this deep, deep blue, and this ball of light just

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shoots straight up into the sky and I can see

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it for a long time. At this point, I'm standing

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up on the porch and I'm looking up the sky

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and it's just a teeny tiny pinprick of light up there,

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and then it's gone. And that was my second experience.

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And as soon as it was finished, I was just like,

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no one is ever going to belave me. They will

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never belave me. That was just true.

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Speaker 1: Then I moved again. This time I moved where I'm

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at right now. I moved to Moye spring I was

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here for I moved here at the end of twenty eighteen,

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and it was the end of twenty nineteen, so nearly

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two years went by, approximately two years before I had

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my third siding. My third sighting was here at Moye

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Springs on this December seventeenth of twenty nineteen. Siding I

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just spoke of was July twenty fourth of twenty seventeen.

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That second sighting I just spoke of. One of the

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things I forgot to mention is soon after that sighting

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took place, I told myself, I have to get a

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picture of an airplane or something right Therefore, I saw

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that I wanted to know exactly where I saw that

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craft stationed in the sky at that time, and I

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figured the only thing I could do to kind of

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keep that firm in my mind was to take a

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picture of an airplane there. And because the air force

481
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,720
base and the airport was so close it was, I

482
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,039
figured it would be simple enough to do that. And

483
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,640
it took a little bit of time, maybe an hour

484
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:55,480
hour or so. I took picture of a jet airplane

485
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,759
that was right there. And it was really disturbing to

486
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,960
look that picture after I took it, because it was

487
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,319
so tiny. It was like looking at just a teeny

488
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,039
tiny little thing compared to what I had been looking at.

489
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,759
It was unsettling. I had two other things that happened

490
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:17,200
there at that place before I move on to where

491
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,000
I'm at now in Idaho. My oldest daughter woke up

492
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,599
at one point and in the morning and she came

493
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,119
out she's mom. Looked at my stomach, and on her

494
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,640
stomach and just up over the edge of her rib

495
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,440
cage was a full handprint that was a bruise. If

496
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,359
I was to put my hand and just set my

497
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,640
hand on her, it was like if you was to

498
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,559
leave an entire handprint on her. It's very odd. I

499
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,359
didn't like it that. I didn't really want to say anything.

500
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,720
I definitely did not want to mention aliens and no

501
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640
contrust real beings or anything like that really get her

502
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,599
freak out. So I just kind of we just blew

503
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,240
it off as she hurt herself in the middle of

504
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,319
the night. As one of the stories we can tell ourselves.

505
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:10,960
I guess that at that time that's what we were

506
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,000
going with. Another night there, I woke up in the

507
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:20,880
middle of the night and my room was fully lit

508
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:25,239
it there was some kind of a light outside. I'm thinking,

509
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,760
is this the moon? Because this is like about the

510
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,800
brightest I've ever seen in my room. And I was

511
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,159
a little freaked out and spooked, and I refused to

512
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,920
get out of bed and looked so kind of buried

513
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,840
myself back in there and went back to sleep. But

514
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:46,519
that was a weird feeling, and the room was way

515
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:49,760
too bright to be like even a full moon. It

516
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,320
was just very, very bright, and the wind as a

517
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,199
curtains were drawn. So anyway, I moved to Moye Springs

518
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:04,400
and I'm now living there. It is December of twenty nineteen,

519
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,880
and I'm taking my dog out just before I go

520
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,519
to bed, and I go outside, and by this time

521
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:18,280
I've been doing some research on UFOs, and I've come

522
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,320
across your show and I'm thinking about talking to you

523
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,639
about this second experience that I've had, because it was

524
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:32,280
it just upended everything that I believed about this stuff.

525
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,079
I mean, I had kind of believed about that there

526
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:38,360
was something probably that I had not given it a

527
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,559
whole up thought. Anyway, when I went out, I had

528
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,679
been listening to a little more information on it and

529
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,760
was doing some research and not really expecting to see

530
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,800
anything else. And I went outside, walked towards the front

531
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,039
of where I'm living, and up in the sky were

532
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:03,280
two red orange balls just floating up there. And I

533
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,239
got the oddest sense of like, hey, guess what, we're

534
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,679
here too. And I was so shocked this time I

535
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,239
did not even hesitate. My phone was in the house,

536
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,719
it was plugged in that I'm like, nope, I'm getting

537
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,400
in my phone. This is too much. I'm going to

538
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,039
get a picture of this. So I went running back

539
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,599
in the house, yelled at my daughter. She happened to

540
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,800
be home, my youngest daughter, and I said go outside

541
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840
and with in the sky. I didn't want to tell

542
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,320
her what to look for because I was afraid she'd

543
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,280
be like, oh mom, So I went and grabbed my phone.

544
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,119
She ran outside, and there's these two red orange balls

545
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,320
floating up and down. As we get out there, one

546
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,480
of them begins to disappear and it just completely disappears.

547
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:55,480
The other one remains, and it's just kind of rising

548
00:36:55,679 --> 00:37:00,519
up and then dropping down. It's not going sideways, and

549
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,039
it looks like a weird energy ball. It's kind of

550
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,039
pulp stating. And so I start videotaping and my daughter

551
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,679
she's like, oh, Mom, can is this cold? Can I

552
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,360
go inside? And it is cold, it's winter time, and

553
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,000
there's no one ground. She really doesn't want to stand

554
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
out there and look at this red orange ball in

555
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:24,679
the sky. And so I'm like, yes, go ahead, go

556
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,960
ahead and go inside. I know you don't want to

557
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,800
be out here. And I just continued to videotape a

558
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,519
little bit. I tried to. It was really hard to

559
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,800
try to get a good clear picture, and I tried

560
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,079
to like zoom in slowly and getting as clear as possible.

561
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,920
And I did take a couple of videotapes and I finished,

562
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,760
and when I went to the house, that red orange

563
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,000
ball was still floating up and down in the sky.

564
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,760
And I didn't go back out to check and see

565
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,679
if it was still there or not. It was kind

566
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,840
of interesting the responses that we that I had to

567
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,320
this step. However, it makes me wonder why even I've

568
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,360
had some apathy to it. But my thought was after

569
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,440
seeing this, was I have got contact NIX because this

570
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,639
step is just these things are really starting to pile

571
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,639
up on me. And I was shocked to have this

572
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:27,599
good siding. Approximately two weeks later, fifteen minutes after midnight

573
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,519
on twenty twenty, my daughter and I had stayed up

574
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:36,280
to welcome into New Year, and she had gone to bed.

575
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,679
I was taking my dog out one more time. Where

576
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239
I went to bed, there was still a couple of

577
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,159
fireworks going off, and I look over towards this mountain

578
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,280
range that's a part of the Rocky mountains here that

579
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,400
I can see facing south and hanging over the top

580
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,880
of this mountain range of three red orange balls, just

581
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,880
like what I had seen two weeks prior on the

582
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,159
seventeenth of September. And so I go back inside and

583
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
once again I get the same feeling of hey, we're

584
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:14,559
here observing, just checking out the place. And I go

585
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:19,800
outside and I start videotaping one of them. Disappears. Another

586
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,280
one is there for a while, and then pretty student,

587
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,159
there's just two of them are visible for a while,

588
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,960
but then one of the second ones becomes dimmer and lower,

589
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,679
and then there's just the one remaining up there. But

590
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239
it stays there, and I do videotape for a bit

591
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,280
and I try to get the best picture I can,

592
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,639
but it is difficult. You can still see it there,

593
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,199
and then that is my four sighting. My fifth siding

594
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,119
is kind of interesting because this was my fifth side.

595
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,440
But since I've seen it, I've now seen it three

596
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,719
other times, and I've taken pictures each time. This happened

597
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:02,960
May whenning twenty meeting, sometime after the Red Orange Balls.

598
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:07,000
I have a picture, so it's timestamps that I don't

599
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,159
have it in front of me right now. Anyway, I

600
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,559
walk outside once again. It was in the evening, and

601
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,639
here coming towards me from the west is this swing

602
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,239
of light that is just absolutely beautiful, and I'm my

603
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,559
first thought is this looks like a spring of pearls,

604
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,440
and it's just incredible, and I'm just awed by it.

605
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,880
And as it's crossing over the top of me, I'm

606
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,639
trying to run in and get my camera that I

607
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:41,760
had just plugged my phone in it was almost dead,

608
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,880
and this thing now has passed over the top of

609
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,480
my home. So I'm running out the other side and

610
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,360
I finally get just one quick picture of it before

611
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,760
it's gone, and I'm just amazed at what I'm seeing.

612
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,840
I can't believe I've seen a fifth raft after all

613
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,280
of this. So I go inside and I start looking

614
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,159
up Spring the Pearls because that's what I just saw. Now.

615
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:11,000
The oddest thing with all of these sightings that I've

616
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:16,559
had experiences is they all seem to come with some

617
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:20,599
type of an emotional response, and then there's all kinds

618
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:24,400
of synchronicities that come along with it. And so I

619
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:29,119
looked up to Spring the Pearls and it's like, supposedly Starlink.

620
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,599
I'm like, okay, well, I was a little bit disappointed,

621
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:38,800
but not really buying it completely because of how I

622
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,519
felt whenever I saw this thing. It was just so

623
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,280
incredibly beautiful. And it was just not long after that

624
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,559
I was listening to Jane's from the A Steady Ranch

625
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,639
talk about Starlink and he made the comment that Darlink

626
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,840
was the new swamp Gap or today, and I thought

627
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,639
that's interesting and maybe makes a little sense. Maybe starlink

628
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,679
was made to counterdictie Contradictee's rumors. Well, well, I guess,

629
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:15,679
but not rumors, because people are seeing starlink or swings

630
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:18,800
the pearls all over the place. But I think, I

631
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:24,039
think it's possibility that maybe these springs of pearls is

632
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:28,360
something that the government couldn't hide, knew that they couldn't hide.

633
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,840
Maybe starling was developed so that there was an excuse

634
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,719
to have these big strings of light follow the sky.

635
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,159
I don't know either way. I had another weird experience,

636
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,159
well exactly a year to the day and one day later,

637
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,719
and I was on the phone with my oldest son

638
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,920
and we were having a really good discussion about this

639
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,199
sort of thing. And I don't know if I was

640
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,119
still on the phone with him or if I had

641
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,599
gotten off the phone at that point that I was

642
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,400
still thinking about the subject. And I pulled up my

643
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:07,360
photo of the spring of pearls and I'm looking at it,

644
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,880
and I look at the date on it, and I'm like,

645
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,679
oh my goodness, this was like exactly one year and

646
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,199
one day right now. And so I go to my

647
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,519
window and I look out my window, and there is

648
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:23,920
the spring of pearls set and s guy and I

649
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,159
take a picture. It's just getting ready to disappear over

650
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,280
the eastward horizon. I take a picture, and I have

651
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,320
that photo. My third experience with the spring of pearls

652
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,599
happened in September of this year. I'm going to skip

653
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:43,079
around a little bit because I'm going to stick to

654
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,199
sift this particular graph and for now. And I walk

655
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,400
outside once again. I am on the phone with my

656
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:53,519
oldest son and we're visiting, not about not about this

657
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,079
sort of thing, I don't think, but were just visiting

658
00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:59,320
and having a good conversation. And I walk out onto

659
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,840
my front I look up, not even up up, because

660
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,000
my porch is elevated a little bit, and so I

661
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:10,360
just have a really nice view and Moya is there's

662
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,679
not a whole lot of light floating up here. And

663
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,039
as soon as I walk out, there is this beautiful

664
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,559
spring of pearls and it is It's just there. It

665
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,159
is not moving at all, it's not going anywhere, and

666
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,440
I'm just shocked. It's like, Okay, there's supposed to be

667
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,599
a satellite right now. I don't know anything about satellite.

668
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:34,920
Maybe they can make them stationary. I don't know, but

669
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:39,239
this thing is not moving. And I tell my son,

670
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,599
I'm like, hold on, there's something I've got to get

671
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,559
a picture of. And he's humoring me. He's like, Okay,

672
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,400
go ahead, mom, go get your phone. And so I

673
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,719
go inside and I grab my phone because I have

674
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,320
headphones in, and as soon as I grab it, I

675
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,119
open it up to the camera because I'm thinking, I'm

676
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,920
not going to get picture. It's going to be already

677
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,960
passed all the way over the house and gone by

678
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,159
the time I get out there. When I get out there,

679
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:08,599
my hand is still kind of moving when I take

680
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,519
the picture, so it's not the greatest, but it's still there.

681
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,719
I take one picture, I look down at my phone

682
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:19,079
and I look happen It's gone. And I'm thinking, this

683
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,639
doesn't seem like cal a satellite should be acting. But

684
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:27,719
I don't know enough about this. I saw this one

685
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,280
more time, and that was just this past month in

686
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,519
my Boysie, Idaho. It was actually at my parents' house

687
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,679
in Loser, Idaho. I happen to go out to my car.

688
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,559
This happened at like seven o'clock in the evening where

689
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,000
I'm at now with a specific time, so it had

690
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:51,039
been eight o'clock here in lloy Age. But I walked

691
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:56,119
outside to my car and coming over the horizon, is

692
00:45:56,159 --> 00:46:02,360
this just unbelievable string of pearls again? And so I

693
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,960
go in the house. I have my phone. I go

694
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:08,360
into house and I tell my mom and dad and

695
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,159
brother are all in there, and I tell my brother

696
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:14,079
he should come out and take a look at this.

697
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,960
I think you'll find it fascinating. And I don't want

698
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,880
to say too much to my parents that gets them

699
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,840
excited because my dad's been having some heart issues and

700
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:28,760
staying with my mom, so they're both in their early

701
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,639
to mid eighties. Anyway, So my brother comes out and

702
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:38,679
he immediately starts recording. He's just fascinated. And my parents

703
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,840
come out. My mom just sees the tail end of it,

704
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,440
and my dad he says, he says, wow, I've never

705
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,400
seen anything like that. And this time they reacted completely

706
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,000
different than all of the other times. The first time

707
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:58,119
it passed from half to horizons. The second time it

708
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:01,039
was just on the horizon and I got a quick picture.

709
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,599
The third time when it disappeared, it was instantly every

710
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:09,480
single light in that string of pearls disappeared at once.

711
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:13,760
This time, what happened was as this string of pearls

712
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,519
came up and reached the apex of the sky, each

713
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:21,920
one of them would go to the same spot and

714
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,760
just disappear, one after the other. So those are my

715
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,320
sidings of the string of pearls. I have some other

716
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:34,039
sidings that are kind of odd. There's a photo out

717
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,119
I took a screenshot of it. Something that was happened

718
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,760
in I see Las Vegas. There was a reaction to

719
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,239
it and it looked like a giant bubble. I'm not

720
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,599
exactly sure if who was supposedly launching it, but it

721
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:53,079
looks like a big bubble. So what I saw was

722
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,679
hot peak and it was out here in the front

723
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,559
and once again I was on the phone with my

724
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:03,519
oldest son and I was standing outside it the summertime.

725
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,920
I don't have a picture of this. It happens very fast,

726
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,800
but there was just suddenly this giant hot paint bubbles

727
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,480
that went by in front of me. And I can

728
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,719
mention one other siding that happened. There's been a few

729
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,440
other listenings too, but there's another one that happened in Pacchini.

730
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,000
And aside from the first one I had of the

731
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,760
flying saucer that boots me. This one also scared me,

732
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,559
and it was a little bit different. So I'm in Cheenie.

733
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:41,360
My daughter is living there and my son in law,

734
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:46,159
and she's finishing school. They have an apartment there. They're

735
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:49,199
no longer they're living there, but she's finishing school, and

736
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,960
I'm spending a night with them. They have a deck

737
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,679
on the back where they live, and it's a two

738
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,119
story place, so it's elevated, and I have a really

739
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,920
nice view. I'm looking out over just kind of an

740
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:08,880
edge of Cheenie, and I see this really bright light

741
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,760
and it's way way too low to be a star,

742
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,519
and I'm thinking, well, I don't think it's an airplane.

743
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:19,000
It's stopped blinking that I'm really observing it, and it

744
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,679
just seems very very odd because it's too low to

745
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,719
be a star, and it's really really big and bright,

746
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,320
and so I'm watching it, and for some reason, I

747
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,159
typically don't think out towards these things, but this one

748
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,480
I did because they just kept getting brighter and brighter,

749
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:41,880
and finally I thought out towards it, Wow, you might

750
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,559
want to tone it down a bit there, brother, somebody's

751
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:50,559
going to notice you you're so bright. And instantly I

752
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:56,320
was given this feeling of just complete irritation and don't

753
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239
tell me what to do, and you don't know bright.

754
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,000
This thing just blew up in size and just rushed

755
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,360
towards me. It became blue, kind of an odd glup

756
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:12,559
but not really a turquoise blue, but bleww, and it

757
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,559
just exploded towards me, and I blew out of my chair,

758
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000
got to the front door. I had to go around

759
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,760
the apartment, and I got to the front and tried

760
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,039
to walk as normally as possible into the house without

761
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:32,280
alerting the kids to the fact that something had been

762
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:37,400
going on. So anyway, that's nick. That is pretty much

763
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,800
my sightings.

764
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 6: Wow, interesting stuff.

765
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've it's been interesting.

766
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:48,679
Speaker 6: You know, this has happened quite regularly over the last

767
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:49,599
few years.

768
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: It did. I had never had anything like this happen

769
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,719
in my life. And it was like the minutes I

770
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,800
slowed down and took a breath and looked up because

771
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,400
my nose had been buried in a book for years.

772
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,559
I had been a mother and a wife at home

773
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:11,039
and decided to go back to school. Everything was just

774
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:17,000
really a grind. And when I got to twenty sixteen,

775
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,599
there had been a few things that were a lot better.

776
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,440
I had gotten rid of the school business, things were

777
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,360
going better for my kids. My marriage was on the

778
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,559
rocks and were divorced. Now that you know I was

779
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:32,920
dealing is some of the things that I had been

780
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,880
dealing with were better at that point. But when things

781
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,280
started in twenty sixteen, I have had just one siding

782
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,639
after another. I have no idea why that I just

783
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,599
keep seeing them.

784
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 6: Was there anything in your past that really stands out?

785
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,599
Speaker 1: I have a number of things that happened to me

786
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:56,079
in my past, and I never really examined any of

787
00:51:56,119 --> 00:52:00,880
those things and kill to this point, and and it's like, wow,

788
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,679
you know, some of this stuff makes a whole lot

789
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,920
more sense than what I'm looking at right or what

790
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:12,639
I was originally looking at, because I didn't that's just

791
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,719
that I didn't believe in UFOs. I was raised as

792
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:23,199
a Christian, that my thoughts of God is that God

793
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,119
is love and God is life. That's what God is

794
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:31,880
is life. And to me, it wouldn't It would only

795
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,039
seemed common sense that he would just like stuck the

796
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:40,519
universe of life. So the fact that there might be nonprest.

797
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,119
Real life wasn't something that I really dwelled on, but

798
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,679
I thought that there was a very good chance that

799
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,760
there was, and I did have some odd things happen

800
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,719
as I was growing up. I had times, like so

801
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,639
many of your guests, where all of my blankets would

802
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:59,960
be in the floor, or I would be upside down

803
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,280
in my bed. One night, when I was like about

804
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,880
sixteen years old, we had this full size bed and

805
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,079
it whatever reason, I don't know if it was a

806
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:13,079
homemade one or WoT, it was a wooden bed, but

807
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:16,400
it was set low to the ground compared to a

808
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,800
lot of the beds that you see, especially nowadays, I

809
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,519
don't know. It was very low to the ground. I

810
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:24,280
woke up in the middle of the night and I

811
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,440
was stuffed beneath this bed. There was absolutely no way

812
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,800
that I could have wriggened myself under this bed without

813
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,440
waking up, because I was fully jammed under there and

814
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,760
it was pressing down on me. How I got underneath

815
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,440
that bed, I have no idea things like that. What's

816
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,079
interesting is when I first moved to Oregon, I had

817
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:54,639
discovered these little tiny babies underneath my skin. While I

818
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,960
was living there at ms Mensville, and I don't even

819
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,599
know why I was pressing around on that side of

820
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:04,000
my leg, but it was almost like consciously I knew

821
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,119
that there was something there, and it felt like a

822
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:11,159
little tiny beeby bit. It was pretty deep down in

823
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:16,079
the muscle of my leg. And at another point, while

824
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:19,800
living in Salem, I found another one there. So I

825
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,639
had a couple of themen and I kept My thought

826
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,960
was that maybe I had a tumor and I was

827
00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:30,719
dying because I did not think about implant and it

828
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,840
really bothered me to touch them. I did not want

829
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,840
to touch them, and so I pretty much ignored that

830
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:41,360
those things happened prior to my sighting. So there was

831
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:46,840
some things in my past that definitely could indicate something

832
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,880
was going on, and then also some bruising and some

833
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,039
things that your other guests have talked about, like gabbing

834
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:59,039
that looked like three little triangles. You had a guest

835
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:04,280
on at one point that said, we know for something.

836
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,800
Typically we know something even if we think we don't

837
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,679
know anything, And so I thought one day after I'd

838
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,800
listened to that show, I thought, you know, do I thought,

839
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
do I know? And the only thing I could think

840
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,599
of that I knew was that I was waking up

841
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,400
at three h three or three thirty three in the morning,

842
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:32,800
and so I started writing down I had not kept

843
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,760
track of any of the dates, so I started just

844
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,039
writing down the dates. And I didn't tell anyone what

845
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:39,960
I was doing. It was like, you know what, I'm

846
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,239
not even going to speak this out loud. I'm just

847
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,280
going to write it down and keep track of it.

848
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:50,280
And over the next few months, I kept track of

849
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,880
it for not quite a year, quite about a nine

850
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,360
month period. And when I went back and looked one day,

851
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,440
because I'd kind of write things down all over in

852
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,639
this notebook, I went back and looked and my day

853
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,599
dates were all of the seventh of the month, and

854
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:09,840
I thought, oh, so, yeah, this is this is kind

855
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,679
of weird. Maybe I do know something. And then situations

856
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,519
waking up with large bruises, like I have a picture

857
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:24,360
that I took of just this really big bruise on

858
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,239
my leg and once again it was on the seventh

859
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,800
of July. I think, I do want to mention one

860
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,519
thing that is kind of odd. So I do have

861
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:37,800
some people I can kind to talk to this about.

862
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,159
I haven't really gone way way in depth with especially

863
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,320
the emotional parts of it, like the feelings I'm getting

864
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,320
from these crafts or these experiences almost like a communication.

865
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:54,280
I haven't really gone into that. Sometimes I think it's

866
00:56:54,360 --> 00:57:00,480
easier for people to accept maybe something solid they can

867
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:05,880
look at, rather than somebody talking about their feelings. Anyway,

868
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:10,960
I was talking to somebody that is very very close

869
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,119
to me about the siding, the second siding I had,

870
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,800
and I haven't talked to anybody about this. I mean,

871
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,519
I kind of mentioned it to my kids that, like

872
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:24,800
my daughters, they felt like a kind of a look

873
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,280
of fear in their eyes. And I don't know if

874
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,440
that was just because I was talking about aliens or

875
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,760
you know, they're also the concerns for their mother's mind.

876
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,519
I don't know, but I didn't want to scare my kids,

877
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:41,039
and so I try to just discuss this with people

878
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:43,840
who are a little bit more open to it. And

879
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,000
this person is much more open to these things, and

880
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:53,000
we have just some really enjoyable conversations like I do

881
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:56,599
with my older son. And not that I don't have

882
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:59,719
great conversations with all of my kids, but I typically

883
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:03,760
don't discussed aliens a huge amount with my girls. But

884
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,400
my boys are more open, and then I do have

885
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,599
a couple of friends that I can discuss these things with,

886
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:13,960
one more so than the others. But even way this day,

887
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,400
I was having a discussion with one of those friends,

888
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,320
and it was the day before the fourth of July,

889
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:24,920
so this took place on those that July. And this

890
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:30,159
person is a member of one of the three Letter

891
00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:34,840
agencies here in America, and they have some fairly high

892
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,559
level clearance. And I just kind of assume that anytime

893
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:44,239
I'm visiting or hanging out with this person, that will

894
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:49,199
probably being observed and listened to, and not because of me,

895
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,639
but because of the high security work that he does

896
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:56,440
and what he's involved in. And so I just take

897
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,280
that for granted. But as far as talking about UFOs

898
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,760
or anything like that, that I never proved myself. And

899
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:08,480
so anyway, I had this discussion with him about this,

900
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:10,840
and we had a really good discussion about it, and

901
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,679
I told him most of my stories that I really

902
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:19,800
didn't go into the emotional part of it, Like I'm

903
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,559
not really sure how much I did to stay, but

904
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,360
I did not really get into that. I might have

905
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,440
touched on a little bit, and I didn't spend as

906
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:30,480
much time on the citing itself the experience of stuff.

907
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:34,519
I was a little more constent. But either way, the

908
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:38,159
next morning, when I got up, at some point in

909
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:41,199
the morning, I was outside and I looked down on

910
00:59:41,239 --> 00:59:43,960
my arm, and on my right arm I had I

911
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,840
had aught looked like an IV brue. And I haven't

912
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,039
spent a lot of time at the hospital, but I

913
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:52,440
have been there when I had my babies, and it

914
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,960
looked exactly like an IV bruise, with a little bit

915
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,320
of scabbing and a couple of puncturemarks. So anyway, I

916
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,559
just thought that was the strange just thing. I didn't

917
01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:09,239
like it. It's I don't like the idea of anything

918
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:13,480
or anyone coming into my home in the middle of

919
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,519
the night. So yeah, that was a little bit spooky.

920
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,039
It was like, Wow, this is I don't don't know

921
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:24,119
what to make of this. I don't know if I've

922
01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:27,480
really even talked to this person about that. I do

923
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:29,639
plan on bringing a depth just to see what his

924
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,480
thoughts on. I don't know what feel safe, but I

925
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:35,559
just thought it was really odd that I had this

926
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:39,320
conversation and then the next morning I wake up and

927
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,039
I have got a bruise on the inside of my

928
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:44,800
right arm that looked like an IV bruthe with Marx

929
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,840
in it. I did take a picture, so I have

930
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,760
a picture of that. Also.

931
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:59,400
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942
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Speaker 6: It's interesting that you seem to have like an emotional

943
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:55,400
connection to all your sightings, have different mixed feelings and

944
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,880
emotions that come with it. These aren't just lights in

945
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,039
the sky that you have seen.

946
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: Y've all been kind of odd that the first one,

947
01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:08,000
the saucer, for whatever reason, it scared me with that

948
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:12,599
feeling that someone was right there. I went from Okay,

949
01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:17,079
I'm having deja vu to somebody is right there with me.

950
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,840
They're staring at me, if they're looking at me, if

951
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,800
they're close. And I don't know why that spooked me

952
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,239
so bad that it really did, and I really don't

953
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,679
know what to make it up. First sighting, it's like, Okay,

954
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,360
I seeing a flying saucer. I have no idea why

955
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,599
I saw it. I don't know what it means. I

956
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,920
don't know. I don't know what any of it means.

957
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:46,280
But I have felt like I am being shown craft, obviously,

958
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,679
and I think that the well, they're all really interesting.

959
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:56,400
That second sighting, that feeling that that I had experienced

960
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,000
that sense of with before, that I had felt that before,

961
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,199
but I have no memory of ever seeing any kind

962
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:08,239
of craft, so that part of it was way out

963
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,199
of the blue. I've never seen red orange balls. But

964
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:17,960
I think it's interesting that I got the sense of hello,

965
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,519
and we're here and we're just hanging out and observing.

966
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:27,039
And then with the string of pearls the starling, there's

967
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:32,440
four different experiences right there, and all four of them

968
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,440
are completely different. It would be one thing if I

969
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:38,679
had saw it all four times and I saw it

970
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:43,639
in exactly the same manner, moving across the sky, not

971
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:51,039
ever stationary, not ever just completely disappearing, not disappearing one

972
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:53,880
light at the time. And then, of course the when

973
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:59,800
I had in Cheenie where the craft just felt really

974
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:03,599
irritated and it just felt it felt like the bully.

975
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,519
It felt like a bully. And if like, well, and

976
01:04:07,559 --> 01:04:11,559
I've given that some thoughts too, because we're hearing step

977
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:16,440
about Hyer frequencies and you know all of this. You

978
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,960
know that didn't feel real high frequency to me. And

979
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:25,280
so I think that just because something has a little

980
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,880
more power, a little more knowledge, doesn't necessarily make it

981
01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:34,320
a step about me or you or anyone else. I

982
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,280
think that a lot of that's determined by how we

983
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,920
treat each other and other beings.

984
01:04:40,039 --> 01:04:44,079
Speaker 6: So anyway, now, aside from these sciens, do you ever

985
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:49,239
recall any experiences of the paranormal kind? But whether it's

986
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:51,760
more present day or when you're a.

987
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:58,199
Speaker 1: Child, I have had paranormal experiences, and I have one

988
01:04:59,239 --> 01:05:04,199
really occurring dream that I had from my earliest memory.

989
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:08,159
I'll tell you about my reoccurring dreams first, if you like,

990
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,599
and then tell you about my paranormal experiences. My reoccurring

991
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:17,639
dream tied in just a little bit more with the

992
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,880
sidings that I've had, I think, and with everything that's

993
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,199
gone on in the past. I started having this dream

994
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,519
when I was well. I've had it as far back

995
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,159
as I can remember. I stopped having it when I

996
01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:33,039
was about eleven years old. So when I was a baby,

997
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:35,760
even being put down for a nap, a lot of

998
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,239
times I had to have this dream. And I hated

999
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,639
having the dream. It was scary, it was unsettling, and

1000
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,000
I always woke up stick from this dream. In my dream,

1001
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,880
I am on some kind some kind of a landscape

1002
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:59,039
where I'm just jogging and running along. Everything is rusty

1003
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:04,400
colored brand The rocks are brownish reddish rays, the dirt

1004
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:08,760
the same color. The sky is the same color, a

1005
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,360
little bit lighter, but everything is the same color, just

1006
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:17,079
kind of a rust color. And there is no vegetation,

1007
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:23,800
no live any kind anywhere. There's only rubble and rocks

1008
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,360
and dirt. And in my dreaming, I am running. I

1009
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,119
don't know what direction I'm running, but off to my

1010
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,079
left is a more heels. I'm on the side of

1011
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:41,400
a hill and they're rising up and it rises up

1012
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,360
there for the back of those mountains that the mountains

1013
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,639
look exactly like the land I'm on right now, just

1014
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:54,320
this rusty reddish brown gray dirt and rocks. And off

1015
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,320
to the right of me going down the hill is

1016
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,079
the same thing. Everything looks exactly the same. It's just rubble,

1017
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,239
and all of the country, all of the land, is

1018
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,280
got these little tiny narrow paths running on them. There

1019
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,280
are about the width of a railroad crass and these

1020
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,519
paths have just been ground into a really fine calcum

1021
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:24,920
powder like dust. And in my dream, I'm always exactly

1022
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,960
the same age. I'm about maybe six years old. I

1023
01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:35,320
have on what feels like cotton top and bottom, and

1024
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,920
they're white. I have on the white cotton shorts that

1025
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:42,400
comes just above my knees. I have on a white

1026
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,840
cotton T shirt that because of all of the dust,

1027
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,199
I am all dusty and dirty too. I can see

1028
01:07:50,239 --> 01:07:53,760
that it's white. It should have been white. That I'm dirty.

1029
01:07:53,960 --> 01:08:00,719
And in my dream, I'm always jogging or moving at

1030
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,880
the very least, and looking around. In my dream, the

1031
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:09,039
only thing that is in my dream besides myself are

1032
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:13,840
these giant white schools. And that's what I call them,

1033
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,079
is schools, because I think that's the only thing in

1034
01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:20,319
my baby mind that I maybe could have seen at

1035
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,439
some point that I could identify these things with like

1036
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,439
a school of threads laid on its side and rolling.

1037
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,720
That's what these things looked like, only they were the

1038
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,079
size or as tall as like a Max truck. They

1039
01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:38,119
were very very tall, that they were skinny enough to

1040
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:43,600
roll down these paths, and these schools were all over

1041
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,840
the place. I could see them behind me, and in

1042
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,880
front of me. I could see them down further down

1043
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,680
the landscape, up going up towards the mountains. They never

1044
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,079
went fast, and they never went sprow They all looked

1045
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:02,079
like they were moving in exactly the same speed, just

1046
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:10,479
rolling methodically along. They never ever stopped rolling, and I

1047
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,359
didn't know what they were. They were just very, very scary.

1048
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,520
Probably about the worst thing about this stream that I

1049
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,000
really disliked the most was how I would feel when

1050
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,720
I would wake up from it. And from the very

1051
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,800
very beginning, when I was really small, I think I

1052
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,720
can probably remember having the dream back to the ages

1053
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:38,680
at least two, and I remember having the dream taking

1054
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,560
naps in the car wherever. I mean, I had to

1055
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,039
dream a lot, and any time I woke up from

1056
01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:48,399
having this stream, I would be really fix my stomach,

1057
01:09:49,079 --> 01:09:53,359
very very mistauxious, and I would be that way all

1058
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,720
day long. As the day would went on, this feeling

1059
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,319
of being nauseus would slowly wear off, and then by

1060
01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:05,359
the time I went to bed that night, it would

1061
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:09,000
be almost gone, and the next morning it would be gone.

1062
01:10:09,359 --> 01:10:16,479
But yeah, so fast forwards to today, and I'm digging

1063
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,720
through all of this information on aliens and UFOs and

1064
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,000
going down all of these different rabbit holes, and plus

1065
01:10:25,039 --> 01:10:28,840
we're getting all of these pictures bat from NASA of

1066
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:32,760
the Martian landscape, and I have to say that my

1067
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,680
dream looks exactly like the Martian landscapes. All you need

1068
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,239
to do is add some paths and these giant white schools.

1069
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,159
So I got to thinking the other day, Like I said,

1070
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:47,960
I haven't given this a lot of thought, but now

1071
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,159
with all of this happening in my life, I've rigged

1072
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:55,680
salmon things and I came across well, somebody made a

1073
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:00,760
comment about spiders on Mars, and I started think about

1074
01:11:01,119 --> 01:11:07,439
schools and schools and spiders, and I decided to look

1075
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:13,319
up drones and I found rolling spider growns and they

1076
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:18,119
look exactly like what was rolling around in my dreams.

1077
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,680
I don't know exactly what that center school, that the

1078
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,279
parks that connected the two wheels. I was always pretty

1079
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:29,600
far away from these things in my dreams. Every once

1080
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,880
in a while, somehow one of them would manage to

1081
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,920
get close to me. I don't know how they would

1082
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,640
get close, but I was a little girl, and I

1083
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,119
don't know. Maybe I would be sidetracked or something. But

1084
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,680
either way, occasionally one of those things would get closer

1085
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,039
than what I would normally allow, and it would just

1086
01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:56,439
be very big. But when I saw these rolling spider drones,

1087
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,600
I'm thinking, I think that's what was in my dream

1088
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,039
was was drones. That's the only thing that I can

1089
01:12:04,119 --> 01:12:07,800
make sense of anyway. I mean, that's what they look like.

1090
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,439
They looked the same. They were white, and the wheels

1091
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,199
was the same. They just looked very, very big, and

1092
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:18,439
they seem to be doing their thing, and they would

1093
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,680
have got me. I think if they could have got me,

1094
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,600
they would have killed me. And I don't know, maybe

1095
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,159
that's how this little person died out there. The other

1096
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:32,520
thing I came across while doing this digging for information

1097
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,279
on all of this is some of the physicists or

1098
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:42,079
physicists that believes that Mars has a nuclear signature that

1099
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,840
can only be found when there has been a nuclear

1100
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,560
device set off. And I just find it interesting that

1101
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,199
I have this dream. I'm not someone that really believes

1102
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:59,319
in reincarnation, but there's been a ton of stories and

1103
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:03,720
a lot of interesting stuff out there. I just find

1104
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:09,119
it interesting that it compares to the Martian landscape. There's

1105
01:13:09,279 --> 01:13:12,760
the drones, and then there's this feeling of being so

1106
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:18,520
sick afterwards, which can definitely be attributed to radiation plasing.

1107
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:25,039
As far as my paranormal experiences go, I have had

1108
01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:29,479
a situation I've been talked about with like the shadow figures,

1109
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,199
and I did experience that back in my mid twenties

1110
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:37,560
when I was pregnant with my first child, and that

1111
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,439
was something I just really really thought. I did not

1112
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,560
want to have anything to do with it. Man, I

1113
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,239
went through my apartment. Anything I thought might be offensive

1114
01:13:47,359 --> 01:13:52,239
to God. It was like gone, and so I had

1115
01:13:52,239 --> 01:13:55,199
to deal look out for a little while. But somehow,

1116
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,319
I don't know, I got through that. And I don't

1117
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:03,199
know real problem with that because being raised as a Christian,

1118
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:07,840
for me that the shadow figures were more like a

1119
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,000
demonic thing. Now when I look at it, I don't know.

1120
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,720
Maybe not a person is. When I was drifting off,

1121
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,680
it would be like during the day and I would

1122
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,960
lay down to take a naps because I'd be so tired,

1123
01:14:22,319 --> 01:14:25,720
and it's almost like you're kind of in a different

1124
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,560
state of mind between sweep and being awake, and maybe

1125
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:37,199
there's a chance to have an interaction with different dimensions

1126
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:40,640
or something. I don't know, or it could have been demons.

1127
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,560
I have no idea. It was very, very scary, and

1128
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,479
I didn't like it. I've had a number of paranormal experiences,

1129
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,760
but I will talk about the foremost pertinent ones. The

1130
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,119
first one I had was when I was seventeen years old,

1131
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,600
and this happened with both of my sisters, who at

1132
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,439
that time were fourteen and fifteen, and we were living

1133
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,000
in a very old place back in the mountains in Idaho,

1134
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:12,720
and my dad was working out of state, and my

1135
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,239
mom at that time was working some kind of a

1136
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:21,000
little night just job at a restaurant, and so she

1137
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:24,720
was getting home pretty late, and we had I had

1138
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,800
a very small brother and sister, so an older girl

1139
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,560
would take turns sleeping downstairs with the brother and the

1140
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,760
sister that were really little. They were like maybe two

1141
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,880
and four, two and five, and we did not have

1142
01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:45,640
night lights. When the lights went out, it was very dark.

1143
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,279
There were there were no other buildings around. This was

1144
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,199
ranch country, and so there was some other ranches in

1145
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:57,000
the local area that mile a few miles away. And

1146
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:01,920
so anyway, I pick up in the middle of the

1147
01:16:02,039 --> 01:16:07,359
night and I can hear this sobbing coming from the

1148
01:16:07,399 --> 01:16:11,319
sofa because where I'm at in the living room, there's

1149
01:16:11,359 --> 01:16:15,760
two bedrooms upstairs, and there is a bed in the

1150
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,800
living room at one end of it, and that's where

1151
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,600
I'm sleeping with my brother and sister. I hear this sobbing,

1152
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,840
and I'm thinking, well, I'm thinking it's got to be

1153
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,479
one of my sisters. I do not think goes But

1154
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,760
right next to the bed where I'm sleeping, on the

1155
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,239
other side of the room, there is a doorway that

1156
01:16:36,359 --> 01:16:40,279
goes up the stairs to the other two bedrooms, and

1157
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,199
so it's kind of it's an old house, so that

1158
01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:49,439
stairways stairs is enclosed. And as I'm listening to this

1159
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:56,000
woman sobs, I hear my one of my sisters say, Debbie,

1160
01:16:56,079 --> 01:17:01,000
what's wrong? And I said, oh, I thought it was

1161
01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:06,319
one of you girls, and immediately the sobbing stopped, and

1162
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,039
it was not me, and it was neither one of

1163
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:14,399
my sisters. There is a story that there was people

1164
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,239
that there was a cabin that was built on that

1165
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:22,399
property that was nearby at some earlier point had burned

1166
01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:25,640
down and a child, a baby, had burnt up in

1167
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,800
that fire, and it may be true. I think that

1168
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,880
definitely was true, but that I kind of wonder if

1169
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,399
that was the connection with this sobbing woman that we

1170
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,560
had there in our home that night. That was the

1171
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,000
only connection I could make to it was we had

1172
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:48,159
heard that story about the house fire and the baby,

1173
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:53,359
and then we all three of us girls experienced this

1174
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:59,279
woman crying in our house. My next paranormal experience happened.

1175
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:03,319
I was living in Montana and my boys were little.

1176
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,399
It was not long after my first divorce and my

1177
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,560
boys were like two and five, and I moved into

1178
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:17,039
this mobile home that was on just a small piece

1179
01:18:17,079 --> 01:18:19,680
of land and had like a building at the back

1180
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,119
and trees and stuff. It was a great place for

1181
01:18:22,199 --> 01:18:25,119
the kids and for somebody like myself that was just

1182
01:18:25,359 --> 01:18:30,800
trying is single and trying to survive. And anyway we

1183
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,079
found out soon after we moved in there said the

1184
01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:38,399
previous person that had lived there, a young man and

1185
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,079
a young woman with this really small children. That the

1186
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:46,880
woman had died like a terrible cancer, and he had

1187
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,840
been widowed and left with two children. And so I'm

1188
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,199
living there. I would see somebody in the house. I

1189
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:57,760
would see a woman. There were times when I would

1190
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,600
go and put my boys to bed, especially my youngest son,

1191
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and when I would put them down to sleep or

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01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,199
put them down for the night, a lot of times

1193
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:10,079
I'd be back out in the living room and I

1194
01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:14,319
would hear the door to the bedroom pop open. And

1195
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,079
you really had to pull that door closed to get

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01:19:17,079 --> 01:19:21,680
it closed. It was one of those it latched. It

1197
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,000
had a nice tight latch to it. It was a

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01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:28,119
little bit too tight. So anyway, whenever it would pop open,

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01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:31,880
I would think, oh, here it comes. The baby is up,

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,960
you know, And I would stit in the living room

1201
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,880
and wait and try to be quiet, thinking one of

1202
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,720
them was going to be coming out very soon, and

1203
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,399
then nobody would come out. And it got to be

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,199
every time I would lay like I said, especially my

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01:19:48,359 --> 01:19:51,600
youngest down in the back, could not close the door.

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01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,239
If I closed the door. When I put them to bed,

1207
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,319
the door would be opened back up. And one night

1208
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:00,760
my sister was there and she was sleeping out on

1209
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,239
the front self thing. I was in the back and

1210
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,359
very small place, and I hear her out there chatting

1211
01:20:08,399 --> 01:20:11,479
and visiting and pretty see. I'm like, who are you

1212
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,079
talking to and she was, well, I'm talking to you,

1213
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:16,960
and I said, I laughed, and I said, well, I'm

1214
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,880
in bed in the back, and she goes, no, you're not.

1215
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:23,960
You're sitting out here in the dining area. I was

1216
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,359
not sitting in the dining area. She had seen a

1217
01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:29,720
woman sitting in the dining area and that's who she existed.

1218
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:34,880
I think it was probably the energy of the woman

1219
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,000
that had been there. These last two, our last two

1220
01:20:39,039 --> 01:20:43,720
paranormal events were both had to do with men and

1221
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:49,279
their homes. The third one happened in Tennessee and we

1222
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:52,159
had bought my husband was working on the East coast

1223
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:55,159
at that point and we had bought an acreage at

1224
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:58,439
East Tennessee that had this very old home on it,

1225
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:03,960
leap little Cabins house, and part of it was newer

1226
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,479
than the other part. Part of the foundation had logs

1227
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,560
for foundations, and either way when I first moved in there,

1228
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,279
it was like, almost immediately, like a second night that

1229
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:20,479
I was sleeping there was I could hear a man

1230
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:26,439
walking across the wooden floor. Men's work boots are They

1231
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,600
have a unique sound on a hardwood floor. They kind

1232
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,399
of slumped and it was just like punk clung, just

1233
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,600
kind of a slow, measured pace, and I got an

1234
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:45,199
immediate thought of I'm not leaving, just a very obstinate

1235
01:21:45,279 --> 01:21:49,520
feeling like I'm here, i am not leaving. This was

1236
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,560
my home, this is my plan, I'm a part of this.

1237
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,199
It was like a kind of all ball together and

1238
01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:01,479
I'm like, okay, I didn't I don't want to mess

1239
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,279
with those. I don't like to deal with their so

1240
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,880
I pretty much avoid all paranormal type things and aside

1241
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:15,880
from UF posts anyway, Yeah, I heard this person occasionally

1242
01:22:16,039 --> 01:22:19,279
during the few years that we lived there, and I

1243
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:25,239
never heard this energy in any other rooms except the

1244
01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:29,399
very oldest, and pretty much that's all I ever was

1245
01:22:29,399 --> 01:22:32,560
was just a walking through the house. We heard that

1246
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:38,199
originally that property was owned back in the early eighteen

1247
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:42,560
hundreds by someone that had a little trading post there.

1248
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,880
I don't know, but the man that was there felt

1249
01:22:46,039 --> 01:22:53,920
very determined and unmovable and very much planted in that spot.

1250
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,279
My last that I'll tell you about as far as

1251
01:22:57,319 --> 01:23:02,479
my paranormal experiences, was in Levenon, Oregon, where the first

1252
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,439
where the saucer siding took place. And I was at

1253
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,640
that house. We were having holidays there, don't I think

1254
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,079
it was Thanksgiving. I don't think it was Christmas. I

1255
01:23:14,079 --> 01:23:18,520
think it was Thanksgiving. And all of the guys were

1256
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,399
in the back part. All of the women were out

1257
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,479
in the living room, and most of the men, all

1258
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,239
of the men there were six foot or over. They're

1259
01:23:27,239 --> 01:23:30,359
all big guys. And I had got up in the

1260
01:23:30,399 --> 01:23:33,560
living room, walked into the kitchen and got a cut

1261
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,279
of coffee, and was walking back into the living room.

1262
01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:38,079
I was standing in the living room. I had not

1263
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:42,800
set down. I was standing behind the chair where I

1264
01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:48,239
was setting and I felt somebody suddenly standing right there,

1265
01:23:48,279 --> 01:23:51,880
really close to me, almost touching, but just not white.

1266
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,199
And the person was really big, and I thought I

1267
01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:58,640
thought it was my oldest son, because he's he was

1268
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,600
the biggest guy in the house, and they were all

1269
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,119
big guys, but this person was really big, and I

1270
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:08,359
could see out the corner of my eye my peripheral

1271
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:14,520
vision dip. He had on a black and yellow buffalo

1272
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:19,840
check work shirt like the logging shirt, and the Lebanon

1273
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:24,279
area of Oregon is an old logging community. This person

1274
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,800
was just so pleased and so happy to have all

1275
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,680
of the family there in that home. That's what he

1276
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,960
was about. He was about all of his family just

1277
01:24:37,119 --> 01:24:43,000
being together and being happy. He was so pleased. Yeah,

1278
01:24:43,279 --> 01:24:50,239
it was just my paranormal experiences with men have been

1279
01:24:51,079 --> 01:24:55,319
men and their homes and lands like just really tied

1280
01:24:55,359 --> 01:24:59,119
to that part of their life. And with the women

1281
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:03,039
it's been and women and those children. So yeah, those

1282
01:25:03,079 --> 01:25:05,640
are my paranormal experiences.

1283
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,119
Speaker 6: Wherever you go there seems to be something which is

1284
01:25:09,159 --> 01:25:09,640
around you.

1285
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: It does seem like that. But all of my life

1286
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:16,319
I've been able to just kind of pick up on

1287
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,720
feelings from people. I call it skilling people because I can,

1288
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,720
like so many of the guests that you have on

1289
01:25:24,359 --> 01:25:29,720
there is the ability to pick up emotions and good

1290
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,800
energies and dark energies.

1291
01:25:32,279 --> 01:25:35,399
Speaker 6: It is something which will sometimes go hand in hand

1292
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:40,600
with these experiences. That's wonderful. Deborah, I don't understand how

1293
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:41,960
you were nervous.

1294
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have thought most of it was worn off

1295
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,600
throughout today, but it really hung on there. Thank you

1296
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,960
very much. Nick. I really really appreciate it, and I

1297
01:25:53,119 --> 01:25:54,840
really enjoyed visiting with you.

1298
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,359
Speaker 6: Debra. I really appreciate having you on. It was wonderful

1299
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,319
you to join us today and it's such an interesting story.

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01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Nick.

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01:26:03,359 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 6: That's all right, keep in contact and I will be

1302
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:06,359
in touch.

1303
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 7: All right.

1304
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,079
Speaker 6: You enjoy the rest of the day.

1305
01:26:08,119 --> 01:26:11,119
Speaker 1: You have left, so I will stay in contact next

1306
01:26:11,239 --> 01:26:12,399
Thank you, Nick, good.

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01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 3: Night, take care, bye bye. That is all for this year.

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Keep updated and connected with the show on x Facebook

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01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:21,960
and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd

1310
01:26:22,039 --> 01:26:24,520
like to share on the podcast, you can email me

1311
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,800
at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can

1312
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,000
reach out to me via the contact page on my

1313
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:35,199
website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you

1314
01:26:35,319 --> 01:26:37,800
to Deborah and all our guests that I've shared for

1315
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,800
twenty twenty three, and a massive thank you for your

1316
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:45,079
continued support because without you guys, this show wouldn't be possible.

1317
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A very happy new Year to you all.

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Speaker 6: I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe

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01:26:53,119 --> 01:27:54,600
and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.