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<v Speaker 1>I got gluten the worst I've ever been glutened in

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<v Speaker 1>Miami when I asked for gluten free pizza and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this pizza looks really good, is it? Are you sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's gluten free? And I made sure and they're like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>gluten free.

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<v Speaker 2>Ate the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been sicker, like projectile vomit that new job,

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<v Speaker 1>meeting new boss in an uber with him and had

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<v Speaker 1>to excuse myself after meeting him for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>to go just give me once.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'll be right there. You go yack my guts out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so they just straight up live.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, yeah, Oh that is no, there's no way they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless they made it on the same surface and

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<v Speaker 1>then put like flower on the dough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they were not thinking and they're like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>it's gluten free and then they just like plopped it right,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah right, regular flower is or they didn't care. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>either way, that's terrible, bad news, bad news. Wow, Hey, Ron,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Games About After Dark, episode two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one. What a cold open. Yeah, I'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>much of that I keep it. That was a fun conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm John Luke your host as always, and I'm joined

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<v Speaker 2>by the lovely Jacob McCourt. Hello. Hey, how's it going good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. You're moving, we're moving. Yes. So

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<v Speaker 2>for those who don't know, Jacob, you are a moderator, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Spot Discord. Do you moderate Giant Bomb as well? You

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<v Speaker 2>can hop on that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but there's there are some connected others like over

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<v Speaker 1>Maria doesn't both yeah, okay, and so we also speak

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So no, been a game Spot Discord moderator

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as the discord has existed.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you so much for keeping

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<v Speaker 2>that that thing going. Of course. Yeah, it means a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's it's uh, we need to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that discord at some point, I think because it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's just it's just kind of been

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<v Speaker 2>floating for a while. It's a cool place for cool people.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I think, yeah, there could be a renaissance.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, it could be. We'll have to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you also do video game trivia, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>you've you did one for us at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>last year. If you haven't listened to that episode, you should.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good. But you also do it at packs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you were at PA. I was did you do one

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<v Speaker 2>at pas? I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I did it twice actually, so for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time did it in a bar, which is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had like sixty people out for that, which

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<v Speaker 1>was wild. And I couldn't believe it, which is which

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<v Speaker 1>is rat because I'm not, you know, from Seattle. So

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy who's just sort of air dropping

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<v Speaker 2>It shared really well.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we did it uh at the con on

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<v Speaker 1>the first day of the con and had like a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely group of folks as a part of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the energy is just wild and wacky. There were costumes

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<v Speaker 1>this time, that's great, but the one from last west

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<v Speaker 1>is on Giant Bamba. Folks want to watch that and

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<v Speaker 1>that has uh that has Lucy and Jake on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, good, Yes, yes, I remember they were very

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like wasn't there like a Kingdom Heart's question that

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy Wift or something there was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny because I saw her right after the panel

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<v Speaker 1>and it was another video game voice acting question that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ended the panel. And so this time around

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<v Speaker 1>the question last year it was about Kingdom Hearts and

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<v Speaker 1>this time I'll have to pull up the question at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. But it was another question and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>her send it to her and she said and again

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<v Speaker 1>she did the same thing where it was an obvious

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<v Speaker 1>answer for her and she like guess the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then immediately it was like, oh no, no, actually

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<v Speaker 2>it's this person, but I'll pull it up. But she

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<v Speaker 2>did the same thing and it was it was glorious.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Yeah, oh, Lucy, I haven't seen her in

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<v Speaker 2>a hot minute, m because she was she went right

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<v Speaker 2>from Games Calm to the Packs and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was there any like overlap between those two or no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she like stayed in London a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>to catch up a family and then immediately went to

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle and so like, I haven't seen her at all

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<v Speaker 2>since then.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she needs to to stay and rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably right, yes, her aunt him. Yeah, they travel a

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<v Speaker 1>The final question was I'll ask you the final question

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<v Speaker 1>Ken packs West. This Hollywood actor played a villain for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in their career when they played Admiral

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<v Speaker 1>Sallin Kotch in Call of Duty Infinite Warfare named the actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Kevin Spacey. So it is not Kevin Spacey because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't That's that's the one. I haven't played. Switch Warfare.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Infinite Worfa. Oh no, no, no, because Advanced Warfare

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<v Speaker 2>is Kevin Spacey Infinite Warfare, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt kind of bad, like setting a Kevin Spacey trap.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, yeah you do. I realized that afterwards, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, has Kevin Spacey ever been in another video game?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think that's his only video.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably okay for the best. Okay, Infinite Warfare, though, give

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<v Speaker 2>you another chance, because I know that games. God, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the main guy, because the main guy's voice is

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<v Speaker 2>like I think he's like the voice of Eric or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you who it's not. So Lucy first guessed

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<v Speaker 1>Dominic Monaghan. Dominic Monahan is not Kit Harrington.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what a forgettable villain. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>play that game. That game's surprisingly good. That's not press

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<v Speaker 2>F to Pay Respects is a No. That was Advanced Warfare.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Space one. That's the Space one is press

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<v Speaker 2>AF because you you like, come home and your brother

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<v Speaker 2>has died or something. That's the only I remember about

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<v Speaker 2>that game is like press after pay respects and Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Spacey's in it. Yeah. No, Infinite Warfare is the like

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<v Speaker 2>full on Space one. It's got like chip combat and

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<v Speaker 2>zero gravity fights and there's like a robot companion. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty solid. Everybody's in space suits two And that

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that everyone hates did too, like it

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<v Speaker 2>had like it had a do you remember this had

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<v Speaker 2>It had the the most dislikes of any YouTube video

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. No, yes, because people were just over

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<v Speaker 2>like the space stuff with Call of Duty. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>looking back on it, it's like really novel and like

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<v Speaker 2>almost cute, like how angry people were about what You

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<v Speaker 2>look back on and you're like that was a really

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<v Speaker 2>whatever game like that. That game didn't really do anything offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't do anything, I mean, you know for Call

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<v Speaker 2>of Duty right, Like it was just but it was

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<v Speaker 2>just in space and people were over it to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where it became the most disliked trailer of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>While on YouTube, there's like crazy to think about because

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<v Speaker 2>it's so whatever. Now you're like, yeah, I think it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly, there's an era of Call of Dutys that I

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<v Speaker 1>just I can't tell you anything about them.

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<v Speaker 2>So McTavish, is is that a dude from the Call

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<v Speaker 2>of Duty? Oh yeah, Warfare too? Baby? Yeah? Yeah? Does

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<v Speaker 2>he die and then come back? He spoilers maybe spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 2>He dies in the original Modern Warfare three. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like a big moment high school me was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>my boy, soap. And then he's in the Modern Warfare

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<v Speaker 2>a reboot trilogy. He should also have been two for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happens to him in three because

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<v Speaker 2>I played like three missions of three and then was said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is awful and like stop playing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Price is the other dude, right, yeah, Prices in

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<v Speaker 1>all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Call of Duty minute from folks who don't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you play a lot of Call of Duties?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually played most of the Call of Duties. I

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<v Speaker 2>did play the Black Ops four Beta or six beta.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus not four? Is that the one from this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the one coming out this year. I played the

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<v Speaker 2>beta over the weekend with Jake Decker. I actually really

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<v Speaker 2>liked it. I hear the movements kind of thing's really fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it has this like omni directional movement and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like well what does that mean? So it basically means

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<v Speaker 2>you can sprint in any direct including backwards, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very smiled, and you can dive and slide in any direction,

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<v Speaker 2>including backwards or to the side. It's a little cumbersome

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<v Speaker 2>to get a handle on, especially on mouse and keyboard,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my fingers were doing a lot of aerobics to

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<v Speaker 2>make that work. But it was like, maybe I should

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<v Speaker 2>rebind these keys. But once you kind of get the

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<v Speaker 2>the rhythm of it and how to do it, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just doing like the dumbest shit where you're just like

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<v Speaker 2>jumping off of building's cost you're sliding everywhere. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>like walking through a hallway and like two dudes just

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<v Speaker 2>like Max Pain style like dived out of the quarter

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<v Speaker 2>and both just like pump me full of lead. And

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even like it was so funny. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just like it was incredible. So that at the at

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<v Speaker 2>its court, it's call of duty, yep, But just that

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<v Speaker 2>little tweak gave me a lot of fun at least

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<v Speaker 2>for that one day. We'll see how it goes from there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that in the human Shield stuff is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>new where you can whisper sweet nothings into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours the area. Yeah, I didn't get to experience that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, uh unfortunately, but that seemed very very fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I did watch, uh, Jake and and and Matt Paget

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<v Speaker 2>who we were playing with, grab some people and just

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<v Speaker 2>murder a bunch and yelling in the mics at them.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're like, hopefully they heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And are those like the two new

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<v Speaker 1>hot things?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, those seem to be the biggest hot things

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I mean, otherwise I was like, yep, these

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<v Speaker 2>Call of Duty weapons, the progression seems largely the same

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<v Speaker 2>to my knowledge. I still hate that UI. The like

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<v Speaker 2>the menu. I don't know if you've played inside the

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<v Speaker 2>game itself, like in the main menu, in the main menu,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've We've complained about this before

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast. Call of Duty menus continue to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the worst UI in video game existence, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's doubly bad on PC because on PC they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have Call of Duty games as a separate application anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They put them all in one application, Call of Duty HQ.

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<v Speaker 2>In theory, you're like, okay, that makes sense, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just becomes this awful men where I had to download

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty gigs to play a beta woof

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<v Speaker 2>just the beta, huh. I said, like, don't install anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like, that'll be one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>gigs and I'll be like, wow, that's ridiculous. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, you have to load into call GDHQ

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<v Speaker 2>and when I load in, it throws like five different

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<v Speaker 2>battle pass menus shorters have it optimized, so it's also

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<v Speaker 2>running out like five francs a second. So I like

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<v Speaker 2>this and open up a new application for the beta specifically, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, what couldn't you have just

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<v Speaker 2>why did. I didn't need to go through any of

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<v Speaker 2>that other nonsense to just get to the game. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's turned into like it looks like a YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 2>usually just a Fortnite font that you can like, Like

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<v Speaker 2>all of the game modes look like YouTube thumbs in Fortnite.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrible. It's really bad. It's for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They're used to YouTube, so just give them the YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know, and I was like, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to try the Lego mode. I don't need any of

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<v Speaker 2>this other credity. The Lego modes are right, the legomodes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty, it's pretty decent. There was no Fortnite

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<v Speaker 2>at packs West though, Wow. Crazy? Uh huh is that

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<v Speaker 2>a thing normally a pack i'n't been a packs on

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly, many years ago there was Fortnite Minigolf. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>like five years ago, like pre pandemic they had for

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<v Speaker 2>Does that did that take them a huge amount of space?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that? Was it? The most annoying thing at the

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<v Speaker 1>Of that packs because I think that was twenty I

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<v Speaker 2>booth that was like the annoying booth, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, Like I remember the uh there was the

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<v Speaker 2>Firefall booth yep, which just would be the booth that

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<v Speaker 2>just kept showing up every year. And I remember like

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<v Speaker 2>no one knew what that game was, but it would

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<v Speaker 2>only show up at packs, and everyone's like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a game that only exists to be on

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<v Speaker 2>pat packs as like, and it's not never going to

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<v Speaker 2>come out. Yes, I don't even did that game ever

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<v Speaker 2>come out. I don't even know idea there's merch for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, crazy that can exist. Did that game ever exist?

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<v Speaker 2>As far as I'm concerned, it existed purely to be

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<v Speaker 2>a like Packs show flor thing. League of Legends Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>was oh worse. Yeah, every year because they would do concerts, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>they would do shoutcasting, they'd be given out free code,

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<v Speaker 2>so it would always be like people just swarming that

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<v Speaker 2>year COS players everywhere. And then I remember eventually they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, we're not going to Packs anymore because we

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<v Speaker 2>have our own convention or whatever. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>thank the Lord, I don't have to deal with these

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<v Speaker 2>freaking League of Legends players. And I was good friends

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<v Speaker 2>with some Legal Legends players all the time, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, sorry, but like y'all are annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think I hugged a LCS trophy

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<v Speaker 1>at the last East right by the Packs arena that

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<v Speaker 1>is always incredibly loud and you feel bad. So Rooster

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the demos that is right was right

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<v Speaker 1>near the packs arena. Yeah, and it's so loud and

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<v Speaker 1>there's tons of traffics, and I just felt so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>being like they're here for the ES Sports. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>your beautiful game, Rooster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that you're in the worst place in the whole conventions.

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<v Speaker 2>It sucks. Yeah. I remember Mega sixty four was next

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<v Speaker 2>to the League of Legends booth one year, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were they were taken with a good grain of salt,

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<v Speaker 2>being who they are, But yeah, that was always It.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Dunkin Donuts at East because they had a very

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<v Speaker 1>large donuts. Dunkin Donuts had a very large Boston uh

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<v Speaker 1>huh uh huh. They had a large booth that essentially

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<v Speaker 1>just had a camera pointing down when you would walk

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<v Speaker 1>into the booth, and so almost like the kiss cam

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<v Speaker 1>at an arena. Stuff would go on the screen where

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<v Speaker 1>you could like, you know, hug your friend or make

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<v Speaker 1>faces at the big.

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<v Speaker 2>Screen where you're like a recipe for disaster, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they would hand you a five dollars Duncan card.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why people would go by. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a fair exchange. Yeah, okay, five dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>make funny faces.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why not? You know, I'm sure there was a uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's like a Duncan in that convention you

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<v Speaker 2>could just go to after there's one right outside the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the convention's effect. See, that's just that's synergy. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>someone got a raise for that. That brilliant marketing strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't I don't think there was like a largely offensive

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<v Speaker 1>booth this time. I'm thinking of West on the floor. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't really a big offensive, dunkin donut sized booth

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<v Speaker 1>at this one.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of good. I feel like packs is back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've heard that from folks, but

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<v Speaker 2>no back, man. That makes me really want to go,

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<v Speaker 2>because again, I went from pretty consistently every year I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a PAX, whether it's Easter, I go to

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<v Speaker 2>West from I want to say, twenty eleven all the

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<v Speaker 2>way until like twenty nineteen. It's like nine years straight.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like a pretty good run. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>pandemic happened yep, and then I like haven't gone since yep,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would really love to go to another one.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is This was my eleventh, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>probably been to the same amount of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think I've been to.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe four or five South, four souths when South was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, oh yeah, and then unnplugged, and probably the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount of West and East.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just you know, we've probably crossed paths like

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<v Speaker 2>ships in the Niama. We probably have. We're probably both

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<v Speaker 2>at a giant bomb panel. I'm sure street passing in

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<v Speaker 2>the line God is the best? Is that still going

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<v Speaker 2>there is? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Zion that still does sort of a panel or.

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<v Speaker 2>A meetup that's just designed to street pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think everyone gets in a room and they

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<v Speaker 1>just street path pass with each other. That sounds great,

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<v Speaker 1>But the number of three DS is has definitely decreased.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not bring my three DS to a pack

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<v Speaker 1>SA that I went to East and West this year

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<v Speaker 1>did not bring us a three DS.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a thing that I think Nintendo needs to

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<v Speaker 2>really bring to the Switch to a great is some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know friend. Like I've said this many times,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Switch. I think that's the best games

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<v Speaker 2>like of it, Like as a pure library, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>one of Nintendo's best. It's like it's like crazy how

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<v Speaker 2>many good games are on that thing. The actual console

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<v Speaker 2>is like so rizless, like there's no thing to it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the UI is so boring. Yeah, there's no music

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<v Speaker 2>in any of it, like at all. There's no fun

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<v Speaker 2>little sound effects except for the The only good sound

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<v Speaker 2>effect is when you pull up your friends list, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes boom boop, boo boop, and see, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even about it. You don't even pu up

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<v Speaker 2>your friends often to see that that's the only sound

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<v Speaker 2>effect in that system that's interesting at all. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I need music, I need a fun you

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<v Speaker 2>why and you need to put a street pass style thing,

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<v Speaker 2>something that's like a may I passed someone who also

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<v Speaker 2>had one, and I got a puzzle piece or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, that shop is probably the worst shop just from

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<v Speaker 1>a pure optimization standpoint, like how it runs out runs

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like garbo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's saying something because there's been some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>bad ones over the years, but it's definitely the worst

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<v Speaker 2>current one.

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<v Speaker 1>And the amount of shovel wear on that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nintendo's definitely open the flood gates. Yeah, we're just like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even think there's a search algorithm there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is basically you can search from when was it

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<v Speaker 1>released or you can do a It does have.

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<v Speaker 2>An actual search bar. I have found that half the

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<v Speaker 2>time it doesn't work. I would like search a thing

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, I don't know what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it and I'm like, I know it exists, it came out today,

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<v Speaker 2>you tweeted about it. I'm trying to buy it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's married under twenty puzzle games or slide shuffle

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<v Speaker 2>anime girl games. Yep. Hopefully they fix it for the

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<v Speaker 2>switch to flee.

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<v Speaker 1>They do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be because I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of speculation about the switch and how they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it different from the current one switch to whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they end up calling it, And I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>the form factor is pretty good, So I think it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>make the experience of it more fun, make the presentation

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<v Speaker 2>like wow, Nintendo. I think people are excited for that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a long time where I thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get weird with backwards compatibility, m because they're always weird.

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<v Speaker 2>With back But I don't know. Lately, hearing some of

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<v Speaker 2>the scut about it, I'm maybe a little more hopeful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they kind of know that that might really

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<v Speaker 2>bite them. That would not people would be mad about

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<v Speaker 2>that because of how much people love their Yeah, there's switches.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about the WEU way more than an average

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<v Speaker 1>human being. Sure from multiple dimensions, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is you have a successful console in the Wii. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you name it the Wiu. But then your

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<v Speaker 1>marketing is so confused. Folks are like, wait, is it

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<v Speaker 1>just the tablet? Do I just buy the tablet?

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<v Speaker 2>See? I think Nintendo is terrified re peedia situation. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell they're just like, oh god, we can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that again. But also they're like, but the switch is

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<v Speaker 2>really popular, so we can't just call it the switch. You. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that Bowser is yelling on every conference call

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<v Speaker 1>he's on, being like, please, don't do the Wei again.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do this. Yeah, oh my gosh, Yeah, maybe what

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<v Speaker 2>else did you see it? Packs? What'd you do? I

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<v Speaker 2>played a lot of video games. There are a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a few bangers there, a few big bangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo was there, and for the first time at East

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<v Speaker 1>they had just a photo op for Scarlet and Violet

418
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<v Speaker 1>because it sort of came together really quickly on the

419
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<v Speaker 1>show floor outside of Nintendo line. It was weird, but

420
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<v Speaker 1>no sorry. Nintendo Live was last West. At least they

421
00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>just had a last minute photo op, whereas this time

422
00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.759
<v Speaker 1>they were showing off the new Legend Zelda game. The

423
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<v Speaker 1>line was the line was very long before it, I

424
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<v Speaker 1>can imagine, and Astrobot was there, So I did get

425
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<v Speaker 1>hands on a little bit with Astrobot.

426
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<v Speaker 2>I can talk about Astrobot, can you. Let's talk about Astrobot.

427
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<v Speaker 2>So the embargo lifted today as a recording. Hell, I'd

428
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<v Speaker 2>beaten that game. I played over the weekend. Tell me more.

429
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<v Speaker 2>It's so good. Yeah, it is delightful.

430
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<v Speaker 1>I saw the crash Bandicoot clips and said, oh, I

431
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<v Speaker 1>must play this.

432
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<v Speaker 2>Video game of media. Yeah, I so. I I've never

433
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<v Speaker 2>played the VR Astrobot, but I did play play Room,

434
00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.559
<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was just the most phenomenal thing.

435
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I like, legitimately and ironically think it's one of the

436
00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.519
<v Speaker 2>best things on the PS five you can play. I

437
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<v Speaker 2>agree with you, except now there's a better thing, and

438
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<v Speaker 2>it's called Astropod and it's generational. Uh what do you

439
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<v Speaker 2>mean it?

440
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<v Speaker 1>You know, some folks on the internet have said that,

441
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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're comparing it to Nintendo style platformers like

442
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<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Odyssey or Galaxy That good.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would. I would say it does hit that

444
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<v Speaker 2>bar of quality, you know, like it is a it

445
00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:21.519
<v Speaker 2>feels Nintendo like in its in its like execution and

446
00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.279
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, wow, this is just like everything about it.

447
00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like so tight and so like well crafted in

448
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<v Speaker 2>that very Nintendoy way that I feel like it's rare

449
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:32.119
<v Speaker 2>to see from studios outside of Nintendo. And then it's like, hey,

450
00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.200
<v Speaker 2>that's what happens when you just like let them cook,

451
00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:37.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, and make a make a good thing. But yeah,

452
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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting because there's like two elements to Astrobot. There's

453
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<v Speaker 2>the Astrobot part and then there's all the PlayStation nostalgia

454
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<v Speaker 2>branding stuff on top. I don't mind the PlayStation nostalgia

455
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<v Speaker 2>branding you. I feel like in my in theory, I

456
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<v Speaker 2>feel like i'd hate it because I normally do hate

457
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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. I think it does it just

458
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<v Speaker 2>well enough where it's more like, oh, this is kind

459
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<v Speaker 2>of fun and peaceful. There's a few things where I

460
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<v Speaker 2>won't spoil what they are, but they do have these

461
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:10.480
<v Speaker 2>hero levels that are like levels specifically themed after a

462
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<v Speaker 2>Nintendo game, and they're cool and if you like that

463
00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:15.519
<v Speaker 2>specific property, you're gonna be really into it. There's about

464
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<v Speaker 2>five of them. Three of them I would say are

465
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<v Speaker 2>exactly what you probably These are for Sony characters. Sony franchises,

466
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<v Speaker 2>think big franchise. So three of them are exactly what

467
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<v Speaker 2>you probably think that a rap of the rapper go

468
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<v Speaker 2>on exactly yep. Name the other two? Oh god?

469
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<v Speaker 1>Uh guitar ro man, isn't. I just think of PSP

470
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<v Speaker 1>games a lot.

471
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<v Speaker 2>We know, we know what they are. Yeah, we know,

472
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<v Speaker 2>they're exactly you know what they are. And if you

473
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<v Speaker 2>like those games, cool, they're fun, they're they're very faithful

474
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<v Speaker 2>and trash panic. Yeah, you nailed it. Wow. Tokyo Jungle.

475
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<v Speaker 2>And that's the third one. Thank you, thank you. I'm

476
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<v Speaker 2>here all day. Although I will say there is actually

477
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<v Speaker 2>a Tokyo Jungle. Get out of here. It's a Tokyo jungle.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Uh no, is there a small dog? Yes? Okay, it's

479
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<v Speaker 2>it's the Pommes spoilers sing, I spoil one, I spoil one.

480
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<v Speaker 2>It's really good. There's even man Okay, we'll get back

481
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<v Speaker 2>to some of that in steah. But i'd say, those

482
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<v Speaker 2>three ones what you expect, and I was like, okay,

483
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.680
<v Speaker 2>it's fine, but there are two that I didn't expect. Actually,

484
00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>do pull more from the the you know, like oh okay,

485
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:20.599
<v Speaker 2>like hey, that one's cool, and like I really didn't

486
00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 2>expect you to reference that one. So that's awesome. If anything,

487
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I wish they did more of that, like just really

488
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<v Speaker 2>double down. But I get it. I get that they

489
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<v Speaker 2>have to represent like the big current ones, but those

490
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:33.759
<v Speaker 2>are just small parts of the game and the majority

491
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<v Speaker 2>of the game is just Astrobot being astrobought and honestly,

492
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<v Speaker 2>like remove all the PlayStation stuff does not change my

493
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<v Speaker 2>feelings on this game totally stands alone. You know, just

494
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:50.599
<v Speaker 2>incredibly tight platforming. Astrobot is absolutely adorable. Every level is

495
00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:54.079
<v Speaker 2>just full of whimsy and delight. And Mark Delaney talks

496
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<v Speaker 2>about the slot in his review where you gave him

497
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<v Speaker 2>nine and then's check that out GameSpot dot com or

498
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<v Speaker 2>YouTube dot com, slash games where I cut the video

499
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<v Speaker 2>review Hey ay plug. There is so much variety into

500
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the mechanics where they do that thing where they'll they'll

501
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>introduce a new ability or a new concept and in

502
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.559
<v Speaker 2>most games you'd think, Okay, they're gonna repeat this. They

503
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<v Speaker 2>do the Nintendo throw it away. They'll they'll have it

504
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:25.240
<v Speaker 2>appear just enough and then throw it away. Here's another thing,

505
00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:27.599
<v Speaker 2>or or they'll like throw it away and they'll bring

506
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 2>it back like way later, so you like so you

507
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>never get bored of anything, you know, Like some of

508
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.960
<v Speaker 2>my favorite levels, I'd be like, Wow, that was a

509
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.359
<v Speaker 2>really cool level. Never showed up again. They don't repeat

510
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that level at all, and I was like, Wow, that's crazy,

511
00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:42.079
<v Speaker 2>like like that was so cool and you could have

512
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<v Speaker 2>totally made five more levels of that, but they didn't.

513
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<v Speaker 2>So it feels like, I don't know, there's just like

514
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<v Speaker 2>this unbridled creativity and this sort of I don't know,

515
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 2>like I'm I'm shocked they were able to do that

516
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:01.880
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like that just goes against every rhythm

517
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>of like, well, we got to maximize this and iterate

518
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:07.440
<v Speaker 2>on this, and they just had either the ideas or

519
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>the ability or the money or what to just constantly

520
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 2>keep it surprising. So I mean I beat the whole

521
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<v Speaker 2>thing in one day.

522
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Well I was going to structurally ask that. I

523
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<v Speaker 1>think there's an overworld and then you go into levels. Yes,

524
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<v Speaker 1>what's the structure like in it?

525
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 2>So there's five galaxies plus a galaxy of like bonus

526
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.680
<v Speaker 2>levels six technically, and then each one has like four

527
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 2>levels and then Boss level, and then there's a couple

528
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>of hidden mini small levels that we can unlock. So

529
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>very Mario Galaxy is in that structure, and then each

530
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<v Speaker 2>the actual levels themselves kind of very where some are

531
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're all like five minutes long. They're super short.

532
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>You can speed through them very quick, but a lot

533
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.440
<v Speaker 2>of them you want to kind of sit there, take

534
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.079
<v Speaker 2>your time, explore, find all your little astrobots, find the secrets.

535
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>You know. Some will be a much more straightforward path.

536
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Some will kind of have this little almost like mini

537
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<v Speaker 2>hub area where it's like I'm gonna walk around and

538
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna interact with this and interact with that and

539
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>do that. So you get this fun mix of like

540
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 2>typical kind of like curated platforming, and then you get

541
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that astrobot's playroom, like this is

542
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 2>just a little playground. I have to like interact with

543
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>things and you know, punch stuff and see what moves

544
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.039
<v Speaker 2>around and everything is just moving all the time, Like

545
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>there's animals everywhere and everything's bouncing and they all have

546
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 2>faces and it's like and.

547
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<v Speaker 1>Some of the astrobots to collect are sony characters and

548
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 1>you can put them in almost like a little case

549
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<v Speaker 1>that is a dual sense controller.

550
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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that where they go? Yeah? Yeah, So

551
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>they'll like fly into your dual sense. That's charming, and

552
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>then you can like flip them and move them around,

553
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 2>and then you go back to what's called the crash site,

554
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>which is your I guess kind of hub area, and

555
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 2>that is where they will all live, and then you

556
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>can go around and and they'll just be like doing

557
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 2>their little thing. It almost has this like three D

558
00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.799
<v Speaker 2>museum kind of vibe the way Asterbom's playroom had. And

559
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 2>then there's like the Gotcha Machine, which was also in

560
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that game, and you can get a little collectibles for them.

561
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Because you collect coins throughout the world that exact powers

562
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>at Gotcha Pond.

563
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, so like for example, I'll use the example

564
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>that Mark used in his review where you can get

565
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>like Nathan Drake cool as an astrobot and he'll just

566
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of sit there and be like, hey, I'm Nathan Drake,

567
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>but I'm a little astrobot. But if you collect his

568
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>his a little like Gotcha item, it is a couch

569
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.319
<v Speaker 2>with like a TV, and then he's like playing a

570
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 2>little game. And then when you go back to him,

571
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>now he's like sitting there and he's playing it, and

572
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>if you like punch him he'll like react and do

573
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>like a little animation, and every character has one of those.

574
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>It's so cute and wonderful.

575
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>That just makes me want to go back and play

576
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<v Speaker 1>the VR game once, because I do plan on playing

577
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>it because it comes out as of recording.

578
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 2>It comes out today.

579
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, Yep, I am excited to

580
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>dive in, but I might go play the VR game afterwards,

581
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because I did play Astro's Playroom like you adored it, yeah,

582
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>but didn't play the VR. And I do have a

583
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<v Speaker 1>PSBR one somewhere.

584
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have some, We have them in the office.

585
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I should make you borrow and play it because yeah,

586
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I should.

587
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.599
<v Speaker 1>And probably not backwards compatible because isn't VR one and

588
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>VR two weird?

589
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you think you think Sony would have been like,

590
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 2>should port that game to the PSVR two? Yeah? Whatever,

591
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>especially before this very popular thing comes Uh, maybe it'll

592
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 2>help our thing that we haven't been promoting.

593
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the reviews on it are wild. I'm just

594
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm so pleased that everyone.

595
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Is loving it. Yeah, It's like I said, it's just

596
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 2>absolute delight. It's hard not to grin just the whole

597
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>time you're playing it and have a good time, especially

598
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're into that kind of like I guess if

599
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 2>you're maybe someone who's like, I'm not really in a platformer,

600
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 2>it's like, maybe Mario doesn't really do much for you,

601
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not if you kind of know that, like, hey,

602
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>this might not be your thing, but if you like

603
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, and if you're like if you

604
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 2>think about like the feelings and the vibes that you

605
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>get from when you play a new three D Mario

606
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>and how it's just like, oh, I just feel like

607
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a kid, or I feel like I'm just having a

608
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>good time, and it's just like it gives you that

609
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 2>same vibes, but with PlayStation, which I think is awesome

610
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>because PlayStation hasn't really had that yep, not minute.

611
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a thirty five year old man and I just

612
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>played Super Mario Otity for the first time in the

613
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>last year, and I was giddy like a child when

614
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I was playing some of some of those levels.

615
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So I think you'll absolutely feel the same way playing

616
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 2>And if you have any nostalgia for Sony or just

617
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 2>video games associated with PlayStation, you will you'll find one

618
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>of those little Astrobot references and you'll just be like,

619
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I know that.

620
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And such a wild contrast to think that the Concord

621
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 1>stuff happened in the same.

622
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Week that we put out Astrobot. Yeah not we collective we. Yeah,

623
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>it's probably a good idea that there is not a

624
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Concord reference in Asboto.

625
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although Concord, if I'm not mistaken, is in that

626
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<v Speaker 1>final level.

627
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Programs just secret level. It's the prime videos, the new

628
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>prime video thing from the Love, Death and Robots people, Yes,

629
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>which is a cool concept. I'm actually really into that.

630
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's a bummer. That's gonna be real awkward

631
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>when that that episode comes out. Yeah, if it even does.

632
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 1>My thought was Concord has to come out in version

633
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 1>two because of that deal they have on that program.

634
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I genuinely don't know. I don't even know, man, Yeah,

635
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 2>that that happened. When did that happened?

636
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that happened in the last in the last week. Yeah, gosh,

637
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that feels like a lifetime ago.

638
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think that happened literally like yesterday or two

639
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 2>days ago. That news was wild.

640
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, folks were still getting physical copies of the game

641
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and it is now being discontinued. Taken offline, I believe

642
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 1>on Friday, Friday or Saturday Saturdaylatday.

643
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I was very tempted to

644
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>order a physical copy just for the Lulls kind of

645
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, wouldn't it be really funny if

646
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 2>the only physical PlayStation five game I owned on my

647
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 2>shelf was Concord. That would be so funny, that would

648
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 2>be very funny. But I but then I didn't do it.

649
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>And then by the time I was like maybe I'll

650
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>actually look, it was already like you couldn't buy it

651
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>on Amazon or anything, and people were trying to like

652
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>upcharge it and sell it, and I was like, oh,

653
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 2>that's gross, Like I don't want that. Yeah, be part

654
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of that.

655
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna put it in the museum or throw it

656
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 1>in the Smithsonian.

657
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put it next to lawbreakers, you know, radical heights.

658
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know name other should should have been well,

659
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean that one should have probably been free to play.

660
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

661
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Concord such a weird case study.

662
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel so bad for the development. Yeah, so genuinely,

663
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like I you know, I think because I think people

664
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>are like very unequivocally just making fun of that game,

665
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>and not to say that there aren't things that you

666
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 2>can definitely be like, wow, look at the way Sony

667
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 2>like company messed it up. But I do think a

668
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of it ends up very unfairly attacking the devs

669
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 2>who were just doing their job and trying to make

670
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 2>a cool thing with what they had, and a lot

671
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>of assumptions about like them that I think is just

672
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>very mean spirit and not Okay.

673
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I agree, you have to make you know, folks who

674
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.079
<v Speaker 1>were probably in the driver's seat for this call would

675
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have made the call to start working on this game five.

676
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Four or five years ago.

677
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure, right, so industry shift changes and folks don't like

678
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 1>hero shooters. But then also, while to see Valves Hero

679
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Shooter almost at the same time, it's not even out

680
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>yet and has Deadlock and has hundreds of thousands of players.

681
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that's an interesting case where I mean,

682
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>for one, that game structurally is obviously so different. It's

683
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to be more kind of mobile ish, but really

684
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>it's Deadlock is doing something very different, and where I

685
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>think Concord just felt from the get go very stale

686
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and very like, oh twenty sixteen, this is Battle Born. Yeah, yes,

687
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 2>battle Borns are real good comparison. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry,

688
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I have a physical copy of that? Wow?

689
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Did they do? I think? Think so? I'm gonna go

690
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>check later. Okay, there you go. Yeah, you can put

691
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>it next to Conk on your shelf. Put it in

692
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the Smithsonian. I guess the Smithsonian. Oh man, your box

693
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 2>is fine. There's they got Borderlands. They do. They've been

694
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>cranking on those. Have you watched the film? No, I

695
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 2>need to watch it. It's on It's on streaming now, right, Yeah,

696
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 2>so I can just watch it. Do I have to

697
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 2>pay for it still? Or can I just Is it

698
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 2>like to be your people?

699
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine it would be a seven six or

700
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>seven dollar rental.

701
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 2>At this time. I don't know. That might even be

702
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>too much of a stretcher. I'm gonna be honest. I

703
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>because I did watch I watched the Five Nights of

704
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Freddy's movie because it was like free on Peacock and

705
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that was hot garbage last year. But I did. It

706
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>was better than I thought it was gonna be, though,

707
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>but just just barely, like really wasn't It still was

708
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 2>not not great at all? Like there were elements bro

709
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, what tronics actually look pretty good,

710
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 2>and like that looks good. But then I like, tonally,

711
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I had no idea what I wanted to

712
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 2>do and it was not coherent, and.

713
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 1>I think I had the Matthew Lillard Lillard goggles on

714
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>where I was like, I sort of excused it of

715
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it since sure because Matthew Lillard, you.

716
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Know, and Matthew Lillard did kind of put his all

717
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>into it in a like, you know, like Jim Carrey

718
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 2>robotic kind of way. So it's like, you know what, like,

719
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>all right, props to him, but you're full ass into this,

720
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 2>thank you. But he wasn't in it enough. He was

721
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 2>just in in in the beginning. In the end. Yeah,

722
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 2>so it was kind of a spoilers first half and

723
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, spoiler's first and alph I mean also,

724
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 2>if you watch that trollery you knew anything about the

725
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>story of those games, you were like, I know who

726
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>he is. Yeah, this is so obvious. Duh uh. But

727
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>my wife really does want to watch Borlands because she

728
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 2>she's a hater, y certified hater. She loves to watch

729
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>things to hate on them. Yeah, and so she's like,

730
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna watch it, right, And I was like, I

731
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.719
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that. She's like, we're gonna watch it,

732
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>like I'm morbidly curious about it as well. She also

733
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>likes Borderlands. She's like a Borderland games. Yeah, she's a

734
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Borderlands defender. She's one of those I like Borderlands and

735
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if what you all say kind of thing.

736
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Is Jack black Claptrap in that?

737
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, man, he's getting all the video game movies. Because

738
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>the trailer for Minecraft Drop God, I thought that like

739
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 1>terrible too, Yeah, really bad.

740
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>He's in that too. Yeah. Nice Steve. Yeah, she's like

741
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 2>some version of Steve or something. I don't know. Did

742
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you watch that trailer? I did? Yeah, what do you think? Yeah?

743
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if they looked at the source

744
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 1>material apart from looking at what the characters look like

745
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 1>and what the world looked like.

746
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>But did they play the video game? I don't know,

747
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>because I mean the world even the problem with it

748
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.800
<v Speaker 2>is that it looks like, uh, it looks like the

749
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>movie CG equivalent of when you apply like overly realistic

750
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>detailed check textures on like a PS one game where

751
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, this looks horrifying, Like those pigs look terrible.

752
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.159
<v Speaker 2>They I'm going to see those in my nightmares kind

753
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 2>of like thing. So there's that, and then there's the

754
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 2>fact that you're like, okay, well, all the real actors

755
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>are just clearly on a green screen the whole movie.

756
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>So I immediately like, don't feel any like, I don't

757
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're connecting to what they are in at all.

758
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Everything feels horribly disjointed. And also pet peeve of mine,

759
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I hate isakai genre. You know, I don't like's genre.

760
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:33.079
<v Speaker 2>For those who don't know, means guy is a Japanese term.

761
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 2>It's essentially a it is people from the real world

762
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 2>who get transported to another world. So in in Japanese anime,

763
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>isaki is a very popular right now, things like sort

764
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>are online or you know, there's a bunch of stuff.

765
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Isakai also exists a lot in uh American cinema. There's

766
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the jaman Jack Black with Jack Black Jack Black King

767
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>of I think we can call it ye Jack like that.

768
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>That's an isakai. Uh this movie, it's an isakai like

769
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>And and I realized, like, I actually don't really like

770
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 2>those stories because I want a story about that fantastical

771
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>world YEP with people that live in that world and

772
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>take that world seriously. And whenever you do it in

773
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Isakai story where you take people from the real world

774
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and you put them in that world, they treat that

775
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>world very flippantly and they and they're they're just like, oh,

776
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>what's this. It's like it's for spoken. It's the first

777
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>spoken problem. It's like, I'm just a girl from Brooklyn

778
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm in this magical world. Whoa And everyone's

779
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>like this is obnoxious, and it's like, yes, I agree.

780
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Which is probably why folks appreciate and respect Persona so much.

781
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, is was would Persona?

782
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 1>I say this as a person who's not played it

783
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Persona game, but I assume that they're sort of being

784
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>transported into a mythical world.

785
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean yes and no ooh, that's a question. I

786
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>would say it's eat sakai ish. But the difference is

787
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>is that it's more that the world that they're the

788
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>world is still related to their current world. Like in

789
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Persona they go to like the metaverse and like, but

790
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 2>but the metaverse is like, it's not an alternate world.

791
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like a different part of our world. It's like

792
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like a different space Dimon world. Oh yes, because Digimon,

793
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say is aniakai okay, I would not go

794
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>out Digimon as ankai because it still is our world,

795
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and the those worlds interact with each other like things

796
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>they do in persona affect the real world, and they

797
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>they they got it are connected. Where I would say.

798
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>The thing with an Kai is it's completely different. It's

799
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 2>a it's it's an unconnected universe, okay, has nothing to

800
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>do with you know.

801
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 1>So I when I saw the Minecraft trailer, all I

802
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>thought of, to your point of upres scary textures was

803
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Cube of wore playing it on Dolphin.

804
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>That's all I thought. Oh sure, yeah, yeah, my mind

805
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>went to a weird place there. Yeah. Or remember that

806
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 2>here's a Ward two Tech demo with the meat Cube.

807
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 2>I do, Yeah, I do. Yeah, that's kind of what

808
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 2>it looks like, the meat Cube. Yeah. I don't want

809
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 2>to that's it's very high res cube of meat and

810
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look natural. And Jason Momo is your lead.

811
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.599
<v Speaker 2>It's just a lot of strangth. We love Jason Momo,

812
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>we stand in that man. But at the same time,

813
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why is he the lead of the Minecraft movie?

814
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 2>Because they couldn't get the Rock Fair Jumanji. Yes, Oh man,

815
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 2>they really just make one movie over and over again,

816
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>don't they? Yeah? Man, have you paid attention to kids movies?

817
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Clearly I haven't. Four decades. I clearly I have.

818
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a formula there is, so is Sonic three then

819
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna follow that that formula.

820
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Is like the weird one that kind of like actually

821
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>transcends it a little bit because I feel like each

822
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>movie because the first movie I think is okay, agreed,

823
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and the second movie I do think is better for

824
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>kids four kids. But here's the thing. I think as

825
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>those movies get on, they start to lean more into

826
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the sonicisms of this and less into the because the

827
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>first movie, I think where it falls apart is the

828
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 2>parts that are very like kids movie, where it's like,

829
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:19.079
<v Speaker 2>here's the all the human characters, here's the references to

830
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Olive Garden and like all this, like the pop music

831
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff that you're like, okay, like I

832
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 2>get it, this kid's movie. But then it's like, I know,

833
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 2>you're getting like more sonic with it. And then like

834
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the third one where it's like, oh they just got

835
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 2>shadow and like you know everyone, it's like are the

836
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>human characters. They're in it, but they're probably hopefully not

837
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna get much screen time, who knows. But I feel

838
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>like they're understanding, like, oh, we know what the Sonic

839
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>freaks want, and we're gonna give it.

840
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 1>The want Metal Sonic punching Shadow of the Hedgehog. Yes, yeah, yes,

841
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>exactly they want. They want that girl to get shot

842
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>with a gun, and they're gonna stand up and they're

843
00:40:58.840 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna cheer for it.

844
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They want Sonic to kiss a human girl? Yes?

845
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. Do you think they'll ever Now, I'm like, well,

846
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:08.199
<v Speaker 2>we get to the part where they will try to

847
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>adapt Sonic O six.

848
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like they'll wink a nod to it.

849
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Live and Learn will come on Shadow or Knuckles and

850
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Sonic will do the super saying thing and we'll live

851
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 1>and learn.

852
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Which one is that? From? Which ones Live and Learn? Actually?

853
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>From Sonic Adventure to Battle? Is that battle? Yeah? Have

854
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they done escape from the City yet? In I can't remember.

855
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they have. Well, they could do that

856
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 2>because that's Adventure too. Sonic was on a snowboard though

857
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>in the second one I believe, Okay, did they play

858
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:42.440
<v Speaker 2>it there? I couldn't they might again? Yeah? Right in

859
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>if you think they played the you could tell us

860
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>what's the podcast? Email GameSpot no after dark GameSpot dot com.

861
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Please write and say right and let us know. You'll

862
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>know nothing about Sonic the movies?

863
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, please?

864
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Do we want your thesis about Sonic One and Sonic

865
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 1>too the movies.

866
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Probably correct that we don't know anything. But Rus the Bat?

867
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Do you think she'll show up at any point? Oh man,

868
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 2>there's so many characters? Yeah? And who do you get

869
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 2>to play Rouge the Bat?

870
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Because Rouge the Bat in two thousand and six would

871
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>have been voiced by Ali Larder if you remember, like

872
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Ali Lurer from from Heroes, She's the perfect voice.

873
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>For Rouge the Bat. But you get Pink is Pink

874
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Rouge the Bat singer Pink? Because I'm trying to think

875
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.320
<v Speaker 2>because they've been they've definitely been leaning more into the whole.

876
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>They had a lot of success with Eater s Elba

877
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>and then he said we gotta go bigger. Yep, we

878
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 2>got we got a shadow And you're like, okay, that's fine. Yeah,

879
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>who do you get for Rouge? They haven't done Amy either. Actually,

880
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>now that I think about it, we haven't got Amy,

881
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 2>we haven't got.

882
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many I need chaotics in the Yeah,

883
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>who would play Rouge the Bat because in my mind,

884
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you need sort of a gruff voice. You need something

885
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like the person has smoked.

886
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, fatal who smoked a lot? Yes? Charlie sure? Or Uma? Okay? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

887
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah. Is it with Thurman doing anything? Not sure?

888
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Why not? Yeah? Get her in, call her up? Yeah?

889
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, that'd be great.

890
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Is that the only big because I feel like story

891
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Kitchen is essentially taking all the I P there's a

892
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Dredge movie coming out as you as you probably know.

893
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>That's Yeah, there's some weird ones that I was like, oh, okay, like,

894
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, cool game and and like, uh what is

895
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that game that? Uh? It was the Max Pain like game.

896
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I heard that's Getting Scaffold Yeah, and it's la Keith

897
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Stanfield is playing the main character of that.

898
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was like, okay, like that could actually

899
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>be good. But I was like, what a weird poll. Yeah,

900
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that game's cool, but you know, m hmm.

901
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Salivan Nelson at Strange Gaffold builds cool worlds. Yes, I

902
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've played Clickholding yet, I've.

903
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Been meaning to. Yeah, that game looks I've not played.

904
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>It's half an hour. I've not played it yet.

905
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>For those who have not seen it, it is a

906
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 1>strange man in a hotel room in the dark with

907
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a mask on, and then you just click one of

908
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 1>those number counters a whole bunch and then stuff happens

909
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the video game.

910
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that sounds great. Yeah. Also incredible name. Yeah, top tier.

911
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I definitely can't.

912
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't read it right, Yeah, I mean their names

913
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>four games. I Am Your Beast is coming out imminently,

914
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>which is another strange caffold that's coming out in the

915
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.360
<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks.

916
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, mm hmm. Man, is there anything you're

917
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to game the rest of the year, because

918
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 2>we're in the thick of it.

919
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>We are, we are in the thick of it. I mean,

920
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>apart from Astrobot. I got really excited today with the

921
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Bilatro mobile announcement. Okay, I was like, oh no, I'm

922
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>just gonna play blatchrowhere, including the toilet.

923
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of the few people that has not fully

924
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>gotten onto the Blockchrow train. I bought it on PC

925
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>load up on my Steam deck. I tried to play it. Yep.

926
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I think my mindset wasn't there, so I just I

927
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 2>don't want to like trying to understand like card games

928
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and board games type of rules. It's like very difficult

929
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>for me. And I thought. I was like, man, I

930
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 2>don't want to I can't figure this out right now.

931
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try it later. And I like quit it

932
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>out midtatorial because I just let it back up. I

933
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 2>loaded back up, the tutorial does not pop up again.

934
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, So now I don't know how to play

935
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that game. No, And I was like, should I look

936
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>up a video or something?

937
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, there are tons of strat videos

938
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>out there.

939
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.400
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of screwed myself because I don't. I

940
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>just like, I don't know how to play that game,

941
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 2>so now I don't come back to it up on

942
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>my phone.

943
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>There are some folks that have been like I don't

944
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 1>fully understand this game, and there's a weird I mean,

945
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 1>maybe not now that it's the most popular game.

946
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm being facetious, but like that it's.

947
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Very popular, but there was this weird thing of like

948
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand gambling. I don't want to play bare

949
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 1>then you.

950
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Have to scream with them and be like, it's actually

951
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 2>not about gambling, It's not about at all. No, that's

952
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.800
<v Speaker 2>just the scoring mechanism for your addiction to balatro. I

953
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 2>feel like I would like it, Like I'm not trying

954
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to be like a blatro. It's more just the weird

955
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 2>situation I put myself in. I was like, oh, it's

956
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>too late.

957
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm probably most excited for like Microsoft's first

958
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 1>party Indiana Jones is still this year.

959
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Right it is? It's like December ninth, which I'm not

960
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>feeling good about that date. I mean, so I think

961
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the average person doesn't have to care about this because

962
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:39.920
<v Speaker 2>they're like it's fine, Like I'll play it on Christmas

963
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and it'll be great, right, perfect. This is a I'm

964
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 2>a games journalist who works for a company that has

965
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 2>game of the Year, and I'm.

966
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Like, when's the cutoff? What date is the cutoff?

967
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>The cutoff is usually like the last week of November.

968
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh god. And we've had weird situations where we've had

969
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to come back. And I think we mentioned this last

970
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, Like Halo Infinite was a one where

971
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 2>it was like Jordan's the only one who's played it.

972
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Jordan. Jordan's like, it's real good,

973
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 2>we should put it on the list. We're like, oh, okay,

974
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Jordan's you know, like you have to kind of trust

975
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the word of.

976
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Like have a weird single player multiplayer where one came

977
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 1>before the.

978
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Other multiplayer came out first. So that was a weird

979
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 2>one where everyone there had played the multiplayer, but Jordan

980
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 2>was the only one who had played the campaign, And

981
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>to be fair, I think everyone liked the multiplayer enough

982
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 2>that we all wanted it to be on the list

983
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>just for the multiplayer. And then Jordan's like, I also

984
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 2>think the campaign's good. We're like sold. But that was

985
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>a weird one. I think Smash Brothers also was a

986
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 2>December weird Oh yeah, and Ultimate Yes, yeah, yeah, that

987
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 2>was one. Although we a good amount of us played

988
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 2>it because one of us who got the code just

989
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 2>like set it up on the TV. Everyone played it

990
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 2>all the time, constantly. We played so much of that

991
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>game in an office. But yeah, games like that, it's

992
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>always either a you know, if it misses the cutoff,

993
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>what we say is it's eligible for the next year,

994
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 2>but you always forget about it. But then it always

995
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 2>gets forgotten. Yeah, you know when it's kind of a bummer.

996
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>That's the Game Awards has that same problem, sure, where

997
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the eligibility is probably November thirtieth because you have to

998
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 2>cut off somewhere. Yeah, on that game, Like, the only

999
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>way it wouldn't get forgotten is if it was like

1000
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Elder Ring levels of incredible, right, right, And you're probably

1001
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:24.519
<v Speaker 2>playing it weeks before it comes out anyway, Sure, so

1002
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 2>you know that it's very good exactly.

1003
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Apart from Astrobot, very excited about Mario and Luigi. The

1004
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>new one that's coming out over the holidays. I still

1005
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>don't really know who is making it because Alpha Dream

1006
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 1>is no longer a studio that exists. I don't know

1007
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 1>what team is working on it. But if it has

1008
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>the same charm as other Mario RPGs, I'm sure it

1009
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>will be rad. And then beyond that, it's really just

1010
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>playing the backlog.

1011
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 2>It is. I've not played Children of the Sun yet.

1012
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 2>That's a great one. You can do that one in

1013
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:55.639
<v Speaker 2>one setting. Great Sick seems a perfect pop it on

1014
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 2>on the evening. It's like psychedelic Hitman or psychedelic Sniper Elite, right,

1015
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the vibe Okay, it's it's wonderfully weird and gnarly

1016
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and and I love that game. Yeah, that's real good,

1017
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>it works great on scenebeck as well.

1018
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Good, Yeah, I have that, and I have Yellow Taxi

1019
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Go Room loaded up on my heard of this one. Okay,

1020
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>So the pitch for that one is take Super Mario

1021
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>sixty four and Crazy Taxi and smash them together.

1022
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sold me? Yeah?

1023
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Yeah, that one came out and sort of I

1024
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know, say under the radar, but I think it's

1025
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>PC only, and so.

1026
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>That's why, folks, Okay, it would crush on switch. But

1027
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>there is a character in the game called Morio who

1028
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>is a parody of Mario, which is why it's probably

1029
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>not unintendedly interesting. What are you most excited for Stalker two?

1030
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm a huge fan of the original Stalker games.

1031
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to that Euro jank. It's gonna be good.

1032
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely picking up on PC because I expect one.

1033
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I expect that game and probably be pretty buggy because

1034
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>that's coming in a hot It's kind of the vibe

1035
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I get. And I'm gonna mod the heck and you

1036
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 2>know the mods are gonna be wild for that one,

1037
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 2>So definitely looking forward to that. I think that's gonna

1038
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:14.599
<v Speaker 2>be great. I am also looking forward to oh what

1039
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 2>is it? There was? There was another one that I

1040
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, old, a dragon Age dragon Age. So I

1041
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 2>mentioned a few times on the podcast. I've been playing

1042
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 2>dragon Age Origins. I finally beat it this weekend. Technically,

1043
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 2>my wife played it. She had never played a dragon

1044
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Age before, but really like Boulder Skate three last year,

1045
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and that was kind of her her on ramp to

1046
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 2>this one. Yes, and and like that was her full

1047
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 2>like intro to like, hey, I actually like RPGs and

1048
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I like fantasy. And I was like hell yeah, rubbing

1049
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 2>my hands. So I was like, you should try dragon Age.

1050
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 2>She loved it, super into it, thought the world building

1051
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 2>was fantastic. Like, replaying that game reminded me, have you

1052
00:50:58.480 --> 00:50:59.719
<v Speaker 2>ever played Original dragon No?

1053
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.519
<v Speaker 1>I have, and I've been thinking about it. So I

1054
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>played through all the mass EVEVECT games. Okay, but I

1055
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 1>think the next huge RPG, you know, I said earlier,

1056
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna play I played a persona game. Persona

1057
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>for Golden is probably the next big RBGI player, but

1058
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Origins is.

1059
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.960
<v Speaker 2>On the leaps too. Okay, if you do play it, yeah,

1060
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:17.760
<v Speaker 2>how do you play it in twenty twenty four? So

1061
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I tried playing it on PC. Unfortunately, it's got some

1062
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:26.840
<v Speaker 2>issues on PC that kind of prevent it. The big

1063
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.320
<v Speaker 2>thing is there was like a memory that came as

1064
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a memory leak. Oh no, that never got patched. You

1065
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.320
<v Speaker 2>had to turn off every thirty minutes, yes, and you

1066
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.760
<v Speaker 2>have to like set it to low so it doesn't

1067
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>crash and then reload it back up. And then the

1068
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>longer you play, the shorter it takes before it keeps crashing.

1069
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>So what I ended up doing instead because it was

1070
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 2>like this is gonna be I barely have the patience

1071
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 2>for this, and my wife will absolutely this is this

1072
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 2>is the easiest way to make her not like this game.

1073
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 2>You threw spaghetti in the PC. We threw some spaghetti

1074
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and the PC and that just like sewed it all up.

1075
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 2>The no more leaks. We bought on Xbox because it's

1076
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 2>backwards compatible. Okay, so if you have an Xbox, you

1077
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 2>know you can you can just play it on that.

1078
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 2>It does cost more. Unfortunately, if you want to buy

1079
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 2>all the DLC, which is kind of a bummer, it's

1080
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.639
<v Speaker 2>like there there's no game of the edition for that

1081
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 2>there was, but it was a disc only, so if

1082
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>you buy it, you know digitally, you have to buy

1083
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it all piecemeal still, which like really sucks.

1084
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And can you even buy Didn't they shut down the.

1085
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Three sixty store as well? No, well, they shut down

1086
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.960
<v Speaker 2>the store on three sixty, but any games backwards compatible

1087
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.239
<v Speaker 2>on a modern Xbox can still be bopped, so you

1088
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 2>can still buy three sixty games that you can play

1089
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 2>on your modern Xbox, So you can do that and

1090
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 2>it will. It does have built in frame rate boost,

1091
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>so it plays sixty yeah, is awesome. It doesn't have

1092
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.719
<v Speaker 2>a resolution boost, so it kind of looks real crunchy,

1093
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 2>And I would say that game visually does not hold

1094
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 2>up the best because it's kind of rough looking and

1095
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the controls are pretty okay. The combat of that game

1096
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 2>is fun, but it might not be everyone's cup of tea.

1097
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I would say, if you're not feeling it, just put

1098
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it down to easy and you can kind of just

1099
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 2>grind through most of that game. You're really there for

1100
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the story and the characters in the world. That stuff

1101
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 2>holds up so incredibly well, like the world building and

1102
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.679
<v Speaker 2>just the level of thought that buyer were put into

1103
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 2>that universe. It's like it even fifteen years later, I'm like, wow,

1104
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 2>this holds up like just so well, like just like

1105
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 2>every little detail they thought of of, like this world

1106
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and not just like the continent you're like the country

1107
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 2>you're on and it's relationship with other countries and like

1108
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>you're a grey Warden and like the history of the

1109
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:34.559
<v Speaker 2>grey Wardens and what they do and like all this

1110
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>and that, and then like she was like, wow, this

1111
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>reminds me of like it's like Witcher levels of just

1112
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like the thought and the care and the attention to

1113
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 2>these little elements that you don't even necessarily come into

1114
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 2>play but are just there to make the world feel

1115
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.960
<v Speaker 2>real holds up so well.

1116
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I want buy Away to win so much for vil Guard.

1117
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there is there is a triple A

1118
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 1>studio this Q four that I'm cheering for.

1119
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Now than them. I agree that I want them to

1120
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.960
<v Speaker 2>have a win. Yeah, because there was a time where

1121
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 2>I would unequivocally say, bar where is my favorite studio

1122
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.440
<v Speaker 2>all time? And they've they've been letting me down recently.

1123
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And did you play Anthem? I did? I did play Anthem.

1124
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there was world building in that one. No, yeah,

1125
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean there was. I don't think it was told

1126
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.039
<v Speaker 2>in a way that was I didn't retain any of it.

1127
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was interesting. I don't. I couldn't

1128
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you anything about the world building. Like dragon Age,

1129
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not just like because it's not enough to just

1130
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:32.719
<v Speaker 2>say we have lore. It has to actually be told

1131
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in the context of it needs to be like engaging

1132
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 2>and like make sense and relate back to you. And

1133
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember any of that stuff in Anthem. I

1134
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 2>just remember, man, the flying around with the robot suits

1135
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:46.239
<v Speaker 2>was kind of cool. Yeah, the Tony Stark park, Yeah,

1136
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 2>the Iron Man part it was nice. And that's about it. Uh.

1137
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.039
<v Speaker 2>And then I really didn't like Andromeda. I thought that

1138
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 2>game was huge displint.

1139
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 1>I was literally gonna say, like the Matt the world

1140
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 1>building in one to three was really fantastic, and again

1141
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.960
<v Speaker 1>taking it out of the codec and just you know,

1142
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 1>talking to folks with your side missions, yeah, learning about them.

1143
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>If Dragon Age is anything like the original Mass spect trilogy.

1144
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 2>That definitely is. Yes, if that's if you're looking for

1145
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 2>that vibe, because playing it gave me that, like, man,

1146
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 2>this this reminds me so much of like night Stale

1147
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Republic One, the original. It has that spirit, has that

1148
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>buyoware vibe to it. So if you have a love

1149
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 2>for those games, like go play Dragon Age Origians.

1150
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 1>It keeps moving up my list of when am I

1151
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>going to play this video game?

1152
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.559
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a wonderful time. She loved it. We're going

1153
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to play the expansion Awakening next. We're just taking a

1154
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:37.159
<v Speaker 2>small break and then we're going to play two, and

1155
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 2>then we're going to play Inquisition leading up to Vilguard.

1156
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Gotta hope that game is good. Also, you're running out

1157
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>of time. Isn't it coming out in like seven weeks

1158
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>right Halloween? So to be fair, we probably won't make that.

1159
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:53.480
<v Speaker 2>That's okay. I'll probably play my own playthrough with my

1160
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 2>my save, and then when we're done, we'll have we'll

1161
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:00.440
<v Speaker 2>do a second play through with her. What was your

1162
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>play through? Time wise? Like thinking about investment, I'm like,

1163
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 2>can I so again, we played on easy, so we

1164
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 2>were able to kind of like cruise through most of

1165
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 2>the fights.

1166
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Yep, fifty hours okay to beat the game. I put

1167
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>seventy in a rebirth this year.

1168
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did fifty and that was doing all the DLCs,

1169
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.360
<v Speaker 2>not counting the expansion, like okay, like all the DLCs

1170
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 2>that you can do within the base game, which are

1171
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:29.880
<v Speaker 2>to be very short. That yeah, if you played on

1172
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 2>normal with the actual because that game was combat is

1173
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 2>actually quite difficult. I remember my original playthrough took me

1174
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like ninety hours. It's a long ass game because that

1175
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 2>games combat it's pretty brutal. But I would really just

1176
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:43.280
<v Speaker 2>recommend playing on easy and just flying through it.

1177
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I think you've moved up this game. It

1178
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 1>is on my pile of shame. You've moved it up.

1179
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.159
<v Speaker 2>It's good. There's some great man. Some of the characters

1180
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in that game are so so good. Who's the is

1181
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the bull Man? What's their name? That's the Iron Bowl?

1182
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 2>The Iron Bowl? Yes, everyone talks about the Iron Bowl.

1183
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Freddy Princh Junior. He's in the third one,

1184
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 2>so not not the first one, but the first one.

1185
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Is Morgan, she's the iconic witch lady from the series It.

1186
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Scott Alistair, he's great. Sten. They're pretty much all great

1187
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 2>except for Agron. Agron sucks. But what does Agron suck?

1188
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Because Agron is is He's so He's a dwarf character

1189
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>whose whole character is uh, he's constantly drunk, and he's

1190
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:31.679
<v Speaker 2>constantly making sexual advances of oh no, and just being

1191
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 2>a rude, gross boy. Okay, and that's the whole character.

1192
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 2>And I don't you're not the game isn't saying isn't

1193
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:45.079
<v Speaker 2>this guy cool? Actually the game knows he's a loser. Yep.

1194
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of it. Okay, Like you're just like, Okay, hey,

1195
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 2>here's a guy. He sucks, and I'm like, great.

1196
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>You have me have fun drunk, and then you said

1197
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the second thing and I was like, no, no, thanks.

1198
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's like they don't go they keep

1199
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 2>it light enough, it's not like yeah, but it's it's

1200
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.079
<v Speaker 2>still like I don't like you. And then you're like

1201
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and the game's like, yeah, isn't he the worst? I'm like, cool,

1202
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:10.559
<v Speaker 2>is he gonna do something with that? And they're like

1203
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 2>not really, he's just gonna continue to be the worst,

1204
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, great, well, then I'll never use him

1205
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to talk to him. Party characters

1206
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 2>A party character, yes, And unfortunately he's one of the

1207
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.639
<v Speaker 2>only party characters that is also in the expansion, like

1208
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like they they want you to play with him. I

1209
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>don't get it. Someone there was really championing Augrin. He's

1210
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 2>voiced by Steve Blum too, who actually does a job,

1211
00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and really it's a good voice. He doesn't he does

1212
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 2>a really good performance as a loser, But what does

1213
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:47.159
<v Speaker 2>a loser sound like? I'm putting you on the spot

1214
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>for an impression. I'm I'm'm not gonna even try that.

1215
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.079
<v Speaker 2>My voice cannot hit that kind of industry as a

1216
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.039
<v Speaker 2>as a Steve Blum. But yeah, I mean the expansion

1217
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 2>has like some great new characters in it that are awesome.

1218
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 2>And then and also they're like, and we put Augron

1219
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.440
<v Speaker 2>back in. I'm like, why why you could have put anyone?

1220
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 2>There must be one fan somewhere somewhere there is an

1221
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Augron fan. They're furiously typing an email right now. Yeah,

1222
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:13.000
<v Speaker 2>after dark it came from.

1223
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Man, someone's gonna look at the inbox in a few

1224
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>weeks and be like, what the hell are you are

1225
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 1>y'all doing?

1226
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's probably my big one. Okay, I'm very

1227
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 2>excited for Yeah, I'm I'm I'm really hoping that one's good. Yeah,

1228
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 2>there is no studio. I'm cheering for more, I know, Yeah,

1229
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 2>it'd be nice I'd like to win this year because

1230
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:36.239
<v Speaker 2>it's it's been kind of rougher game devs. Yeah, and

1231
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if my heart could take it. If

1232
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.239
<v Speaker 2>if Byre were also, uh, you know, something happens to them.

1233
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 1>For a long time, I was like, what is Eya

1234
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 1>besides FIFA print money machine and they don't feel that. Yeah,

1235
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Dice hasn't made a game since twenty forty two and nineteen.

1236
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I think it's been a long time for them as well.

1237
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 2>They have they're winning off Frostbite, I'm sure right. Uh,

1238
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Apex Legends still trucking along. A lot of people are

1239
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 2>very unhappy because they've been doing some weird monetization stuff

1240
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.400
<v Speaker 2>with that that's gross or whatever. I just know people

1241
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:13.679
<v Speaker 2>are mad about it. Yeah, sure that sounds right.

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01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But there and there are no real EA originals lately.

1243
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the last one would have been Hazes Light

1244
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 1>last game Tails of CANCERA oh, that would have been

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01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>an EA original.

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01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Was original, was very good, and unfortunately I don't think

1247
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 2>that game did Super Bowl because they had to lay off, yeah,

1248
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people on their team, which really sucks

1249
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 2>because I thought that game was really cool and I

1250
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:40.119
<v Speaker 2>hope that team can bounce back because man, a surgeon studios. Yes,

1251
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>that was like such an amazing first effort for a studio,

1252
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, man, they could really build on

1253
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:47.960
<v Speaker 2>this and like the next game could just like knock

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01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>it out of the park. So I hope they get

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01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the chance to do that. I'm really rooting for them too.

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01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what is the Haze light game? That's not a

1257
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>way out? The one with the two folks who become

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01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 1>toys or become Oh it takes to thank you, Jeff,

1259
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 1>it takes two, yes, of course, right, I mean, look.

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01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I said that, but it's a it's a good video

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01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 2>but it is a good video game. Was it the

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<v Speaker 2>best video game of that year?

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01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was, really think it was, but

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01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.119
<v Speaker 1>definitely in the in the should be in the top five.

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01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Sure yeah, yes, yeah, very much a contender, But the

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01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:21.559
<v Speaker 2>best video game of that year? I don't think it was. No,

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01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 2>what was? What? What else was that year? Though? What

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01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.400
<v Speaker 2>year was that? Twenty two? Twenty two? Oh my gosh,

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01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:29.320
<v Speaker 2>look on twenty two. It's weird. I have like a

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01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:31.440
<v Speaker 2>very good memory for video game. Like you could like

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01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.719
<v Speaker 2>name a video game and I'd be like nine two

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01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:36.159
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight, or whatever. But the last couple of years

1273
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 2>have been a weird blur, probably because of the pandemic. Yeah,

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01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:42.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, that would have not that that had been.

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01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Pre No, twenty two was the elden Ring year, so

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01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 1>that might have actually been twenty one.

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01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Sould have been twenty one now because yeah, yeah, twenty

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01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 2>two was elden Ring year. So twenty one was Death Loop.

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01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>It was Psychoonot's two that was the best game of

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01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that year. I wholeheardly agree with you. It was Psychodots

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01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.760
<v Speaker 2>two that was the best game. Yeah, here's here is

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01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:02.199
<v Speaker 2>the list.

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01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was it takes two to one death Loop,

1284
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:09.440
<v Speaker 1>as you said, Metroid Dread, Psychonots two, Rift Apart, Resident

1285
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Evil Village where where.

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01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 2>The six titles? Yeah it was. It was Psychoonats too.

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01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.440
<v Speaker 2>That was the best game of the year. It was Yeah,

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01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.679
<v Speaker 2>such a good game. What a game?

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01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Have you watched the final episode of the two player

1290
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Productions documentary?

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01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Now? I have not, but I did order that Blu

1292
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:25.719
<v Speaker 2>ray box.

1293
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:28.719
<v Speaker 1>So did I, and I was like, I don't need this.

1294
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't need it. I absolutely don't need it, but

1295
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 2>I feel obligated to have it.

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01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I had a group chat with like two friends that

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01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 1>are big fans of that documentary as well, and we

1298
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>were all like, ah, we don't need.

1299
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:42.880
<v Speaker 2>This, but like what if it was just on the.

1300
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Shelf, Yeah, we could be like, look it next to

1301
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:48.320
<v Speaker 1>our you know, double fine art book. And then I

1302
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:50.079
<v Speaker 1>said I don't need it. And then later that day

1303
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I just bought it.

1304
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I just bought it, and I was like, yeah, you know,

1305
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's someone who works in the games media,

1306
01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:00.400
<v Speaker 2>who has made a couple of video game docs. It's

1307
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 2>like I gotta I gotta support my fellows.

1308
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Because nothing will like it shouldn't have happened.

1309
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It's unbeatable. Honestly, it's like why even try, you know,

1310
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>when they like that, you can't even I mean, there's

1311
01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 2>many reasons to try and stories in that. But I

1312
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, Wow, they did it. They did the thing

1313
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that like is a once in a lifetime project, Like

1314
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 2>how do you? I don't even know.

1315
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Part of me wants them to win because I think

1316
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the Emmys are coming up, so part of me went,

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01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 1>can we nominated? I don't know because how the eligibility works,

1318
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:40.440
<v Speaker 1>but either I was struck by this should win an Emmy,

1319
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:43.199
<v Speaker 1>This should win, should give it a bath to can

1320
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 1>we give it something? So it is a report documentary,

1321
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:49.079
<v Speaker 1>not a video game documentary.

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01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's just a great Yes, it's like the

1323
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:55.400
<v Speaker 2>level of depth and and like attention, like is it's

1324
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:57.119
<v Speaker 2>not just like, oh, they were there the whole time

1325
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's long. It's like it's also good and compelling

1326
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:03.079
<v Speaker 2>and interesting and and and that that length like really

1327
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:09.280
<v Speaker 2>brings something to the understanding of like the people and

1328
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the game development process in a way that you really

1329
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:16.159
<v Speaker 2>can't get from just like, uh, you know, hey, we

1330
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 2>talked to them for like a few days. It's just

1331
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:18.719
<v Speaker 2>not possible, right like.

1332
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>And it ends and flows and you see again, I

1333
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1334
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:28.960
<v Speaker 2>The pandemic happens in it. Like there's so many acquisition happens. Yes,

1335
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and you get oh my god, like.

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01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:33.920
<v Speaker 1>The Matt Booty meeting incredible, Oh my god, that I

1337
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it made it into the final.

1338
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 2>It really is a microcosm of like everything that could

1339
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:45.159
<v Speaker 2>possibly happen to like a game, you know, with the

1340
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.000
<v Speaker 2>exception of it like getting like a shut down or

1341
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:51.039
<v Speaker 2>like right like, but yeah, it's it's incredible. It really

1342
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:54.320
<v Speaker 2>it deserves I think it deserves more attention outside the

1343
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:58.800
<v Speaker 2>sphere of just like game enthusiasts and and I agree,

1344
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like that should be on like Netflix or something.

1345
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 1>And beyond having some low lows, there are some beautiful

1346
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 1>moments in it of you know, people starting families and

1347
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.719
<v Speaker 1>then even Tim realizing that some of the employees that

1348
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 1>have been there for very long time have equity and

1349
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.440
<v Speaker 1>then him going, hey, guys, it turns out you have

1350
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:20.440
<v Speaker 1>equity and you're gonna get money from this acquisition, which

1351
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 1>is just so beautiful when it happens.

1352
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I uh, yeah, yeah, the part where one of the

1353
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 2>people working on the dock except like yeah, participating the

1354
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 2>game jam and then their concept is in the game

1355
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I think, so, yeah, Like that's awesome, like like somebody twists?

1356
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Where's kiln oh Man? Yeah, if you haven't seen that

1357
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.719
<v Speaker 2>and you like docs, you really should go look it up.

1358
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:51.639
<v Speaker 2>What's the name of it? It's like, uh, psychotic psychoticsy.

1359
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:53.719
<v Speaker 2>You can it's all up on YouTube. You don't need

1360
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to go pay two hundred dollars for a I mean

1361
01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.599
<v Speaker 2>there is a limited amount, so you probably can't anymore. Yeah,

1362
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.880
<v Speaker 2>but wasn't LRG that was? Who did that? Was that?

1363
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I am a bit put that one out. I think

1364
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 2>it might be.

1365
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 1>I am a bit yeah, yeah, because I know they're

1366
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 1>sort of connected with DAA the dev's yea, yeah, yes, yes,

1367
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it was them, not not uh Limited Run

1368
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:21.320
<v Speaker 1>doing some cool stuff too. They got that Alan Wake physical.

1369
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I ended up getting.

1370
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.119
<v Speaker 1>So they were at packs and had the normal booth

1371
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know they're they're I believe they're doing game

1372
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:27.360
<v Speaker 1>publishing too.

1373
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 2>They have the Johnson Gun from uh do you know

1374
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.559
<v Speaker 2>about this? I from Shouts of the Damned. They have

1375
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.519
<v Speaker 2>a full scale replica of of the Big Boner. I

1376
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think. I don't think I saw it there. Man,

1377
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:40.519
<v Speaker 2>what a shame.

1378
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I ended up getting Rocket Knight Adventure resparked, okay there

1379
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:47.800
<v Speaker 1>because I have not touched Rocket Knight in a very

1380
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 1>long time and it has I believe three titles on

1381
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it and uh but no, they always have a really

1382
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 1>compelling lineup and they had a couple of games. So

1383
01:06:57.559 --> 01:07:00.199
<v Speaker 1>they're publishing the rug Racks game, so they had that on.

1384
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm is that out yet? I'm very it's.

1385
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Out on the tenth or eleventh, I believe.

1386
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to I want to take it and

1387
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:10.159
<v Speaker 2>uh have you heard about this? How? Because it got

1388
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 2>co op right, yes, but if I'm correct, this is

1389
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the one that also like has the like sness ness mode. Right. Yeah,

1390
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.400
<v Speaker 2>so you can just take the ROM out of the

1391
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:23.519
<v Speaker 2>file and you can just put that into your emulators

1392
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.000
<v Speaker 2>or in my case, my ever Drive cartridge. Yeah, and

1393
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I could just play it on my CRT and I

1394
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 2>really wanted That's why.

1395
01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, weren't they going to produce an yes cartridges or

1396
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe or maybe I'm just imagining that.

1397
01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:39.079
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a thing they would do.

1398
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that one was out. They have a game

1399
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.559
<v Speaker 1>called Ghosts that they were demoing, which is a first

1400
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 1>person horror game that the demo is very short, but

1401
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.519
<v Speaker 1>at one point, like bodies are just piling on top

1402
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of you. But it it parodies Night Traps. So it's

1403
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you're watching a bunch of FMV characters in the

1404
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:00.079
<v Speaker 1>world and you're.

1405
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Pressing buttons to change between cameras and then just wild

1406
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.440
<v Speaker 2>hit starts happening, where a bunch of mannequins will fall

1407
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:08.000
<v Speaker 2>on you, or you'll start hallucinating.

1408
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Or you'll go outside of the production you know, create

1409
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're in and oops, you're in a mythical world.

1410
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:17.520
<v Speaker 1>This it was, it was wild. It was one of

1411
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:20.079
<v Speaker 1>the wildest thing things I played when I was at West.

1412
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Even the demo.

1413
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.680
<v Speaker 1>The demo was really short to it, just a couple

1414
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of minutes. The Rugrats demo is also a couple of minutes,

1415
01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but it it got it told me exactly what it is.

1416
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yes, I'm gonna play that video game.

1417
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh that sounds lovely, man, That's my thing I miss

1418
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 2>about packs the most, the little the Indian area. Yeah,

1419
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.039
<v Speaker 2>little tiny games. You're like, oh, when is that coming out?

1420
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And then it doesn't come out for another ten years

1421
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:42.760
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Yeah.

1422
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 1>One of the highlights was seeing I don't know if

1423
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.159
<v Speaker 1>you follow like East Bread, I think that's how you

1424
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 1>say Estpread games. They published Valhalla, a published World of

1425
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Horror and they have a fantastic track, and they're publishing

1426
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Demon School. Oh and so at West they had two

1427
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 1>more games. So they had Love Eternal and they had

1428
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Ever Deep Aura Ever Deep Aurorra is like a game

1429
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Boy Color SteamWorld dig but it's got big gibli vibes

1430
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to it, both in graphics and in sound.

1431
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay coming next year.

1432
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:16.359
<v Speaker 1>And then they also had a So Love Eternal was

1433
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:19.600
<v Speaker 1>if do you remember VVVVV back in the day that game,

1434
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's a gravity game, but then also it's a

1435
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:23.159
<v Speaker 1>psychological horror game on.

1436
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Top of that.

1437
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yeah, so it's finding stuff like that at

1438
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:30.960
<v Speaker 1>West That is the best part. The other one that

1439
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I found didn't know anything about it beforehand, was called

1440
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:36.399
<v Speaker 1>tether Geist.

1441
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I think is the name of it. But essentially it

1442
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is a like hardcore platform or where you're a character

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01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:46.520
<v Speaker 2>who can separate their spirit from your body and you

1444
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:50.279
<v Speaker 2>use that the ghost part is tethered to you, and

1445
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:53.720
<v Speaker 2>you'll essentially use the ghost to go through walls or

1446
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:57.600
<v Speaker 2>spikes or obstacles. Oh that sounds really Yeah. Yeah.

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01:09:57.680 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 1>That one has a demo and Steam if you want

1448
01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:01.199
<v Speaker 1>to try it, But and that one has no date.

1449
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 1>But it's stuff like that you just find out on

1450
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the floor and you're.

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01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Like, give it to me immediately, I need it now. Yeah. Yeah.

1452
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:13.800
<v Speaker 2>But what's cool now is that you get you kind

1453
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:15.720
<v Speaker 2>of get an online version of that with things like Steam,

1454
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Next Fest and stuff like that. So I feel like

1455
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.640
<v Speaker 2>where it used to be only places like packs would

1456
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 2>be the opportunity to experience that, there is at least

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01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:25.439
<v Speaker 2>now a way for other people to do that without

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01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:27.439
<v Speaker 2>having to like I have to go to Seattle, or

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01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I have to go to Boston or whatever.

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01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a good friend of mine got COVID for

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01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 1>East and canceled his trip. And again they have those

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01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 1>third party events to Steam now and they have an

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01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:40.840
<v Speaker 1>official East and an official West one and it'll say,

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01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:42.439
<v Speaker 1>here are all the demos that were on the floor.

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01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's rad. I think it only runs.

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01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 1>During packs, that makes sense, but you can you know,

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01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Steam is not the you can't find games on Steam.

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01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's not as bad as Nintendo, but sometimes it's

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01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:56.079
<v Speaker 1>hard to find those events when there's sort of a marque.

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01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Event going on on Steam. Yeah, but I was.

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01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Still able to find it in the web browser and

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01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.760
<v Speaker 1>it just shows you, Hey, here's everything that was on

1473
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the floor. You're the demos that were on the floor.

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01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Here were the packs exclusive. Yeah, it's it's rad. Oh

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01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that's so cool man. Yeah, wow, that's great.

1476
01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:12.880
<v Speaker 2>So you can go to packs, going to pack.

1477
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.039
<v Speaker 1>You cannot smell the smells and it's still play the games.

1478
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I want to put it that way. That sounds that

1479
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.800
<v Speaker 2>sounds kind of nice. Yeah, but you don't want to

1480
01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:25.640
<v Speaker 2>smell the smells. Ah, you know what I think I've

1481
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you smelled enough smell, smelled enough smells smelliest gaming event

1482
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you've ever been to. Oh god, strying to put you

1483
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:44.880
<v Speaker 2>on the spot on the spot smelliest smell smelling probably

1484
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a PAX, But I can't like recall. The thing is,

1485
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't recall like a specific They all meld into

1486
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:54.399
<v Speaker 2>one smell of like just like horrible, putrid, like awfulness,

1487
01:11:54.439 --> 01:12:00.199
<v Speaker 2>like Kurt experienced that games calm. Apparently you have in

1488
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the last episode to hear about that. So yeah, I guess.

1489
01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess we're probably just like a packs or something.

1490
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Most to be fair, I feel like

1491
01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I try and avoid the really bad ones, someones that

1492
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.720
<v Speaker 2>are just like, oh, I know this is gonna be yep. Rough.

1493
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:17.079
<v Speaker 1>It seems like Summer game Fest now has very pleasant smells,

1494
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.560
<v Speaker 1>just from seeing what it looks like now, well, this is.

1495
01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Probably very pleasant, yes, because our games Fest is a

1496
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 2>small event that's just for the industry, like people who

1497
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>work there, people were there to do a job, and

1498
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:34.039
<v Speaker 2>ideally people who are also adults that know how to shower, right,

1499
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's like there's like enough thresholds of like barriers

1500
01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:40.159
<v Speaker 2>to entry. That's like you're probably someone who like takes

1501
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:42.359
<v Speaker 2>care of their hygiene if you're here, which is nice.

1502
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I agree, Pack or not packs. Summer game Fest is

1503
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe my favorite. Like I have to work their event

1504
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:50.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's actually like I feel like I could do

1505
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 2>my job. But it's a very different vibe, you know

1506
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:58.319
<v Speaker 2>than a PAX or something. Yeah, because them bodies are

1507
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>getting thrown into the convention her and sometimes she's smelly.

1508
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but yeah, Jacob, this has been lovely.

1509
01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for having me, Thank you for being

1510
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:11.359
<v Speaker 1>here as you is this the last podcast that will

1511
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:12.560
<v Speaker 1>ever happen in this room?

1512
01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:16.199
<v Speaker 2>It is actually the last podcast. Hell, we're gonna be

1513
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:18.079
<v Speaker 2>tearing apart this like right after.

1514
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Will there be podcasts after this one?

1515
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:23.439
<v Speaker 2>You know what? That is a question I was literally

1516
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:28.079
<v Speaker 2>thinking about while we were talking. Oh boy, So let's

1517
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.319
<v Speaker 2>let's let me break it down for you folks. What's

1518
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:36.079
<v Speaker 2>going to be happening Next week is a normal week,

1519
01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:38.840
<v Speaker 2>but we're going to be packing up the studio, so

1520
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:40.880
<v Speaker 2>we can't do a podcast here. So if we do

1521
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 2>do a podcast would have to be remote. The week

1522
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.920
<v Speaker 2>after that, I have a work trip, so does Jake.

1523
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be doing a thing, so they're probably Chris

1524
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:53.399
<v Speaker 2>secret can't talk about it very exciting, So there won't

1525
01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:56.199
<v Speaker 2>be a podcast that a week unless I do something

1526
01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 2>really weird and out of pocket and like we record

1527
01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a podcast like on trip or something, which would be

1528
01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of maybe stupid and silly. Maybe we'll do that.

1529
01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. These are all ideas floating in my head. No, no,

1530
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.159
<v Speaker 2>this is concrete, and don't take any of those gospel

1531
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.720
<v Speaker 2>we'll get back. I immediately have to go to a

1532
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 2>wedding the next week. Oh no, definitely won't be a

1533
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:21.359
<v Speaker 2>podcast that week. So we're already like one podcast. Definitely

1534
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:26.920
<v Speaker 2>not to probably not so at this point, the whole

1535
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:31.680
<v Speaker 2>month of September is like completely like probably not gonna happen.

1536
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:37.560
<v Speaker 2>We move into our new office the first of October

1537
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:42.079
<v Speaker 2>as when we get the keys, however, nothing will be

1538
01:14:42.119 --> 01:14:44.840
<v Speaker 2>set up there. There will be no internet, there will

1539
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.079
<v Speaker 2>be building they'll be putting in the internet that first week,

1540
01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:49.800
<v Speaker 2>so we probably won't be able to do anything in

1541
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:54.399
<v Speaker 2>that office that week, and then they're going to be

1542
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 2>working on our studio during the month of October, so

1543
01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 2>we won't be able to out. What I would say

1544
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:05.039
<v Speaker 2>is as far as a proper studio podcast where hey,

1545
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:08.279
<v Speaker 2>like shocker, we are actually gonna start doing this live

1546
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 2>again on camera. That's gonna be don't expect that until

1547
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 2>like the end of October, because they have to build

1548
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the studio and then I need to like set up

1549
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the equipment and I need to test it and like

1550
01:15:20.199 --> 01:15:21.680
<v Speaker 2>there's so many things I have to get done. So

1551
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:24.399
<v Speaker 2>don't expect any of that for at least two months.

1552
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Whether or not there will be any episodes of this podcast,

1553
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I would like to try and at least get something

1554
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:34.520
<v Speaker 2>out so that there's not a complete lull for two

1555
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:39.159
<v Speaker 2>months straight. They're gonna be a little ridiculous. But bear

1556
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:43.520
<v Speaker 2>with me because I cannot promise you anything. We're trying

1557
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.039
<v Speaker 2>our best. We're trying our best. You're trying your best.

1558
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying word, I'm like, I'm just gonna leave it.

1559
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, you're just going home. You don't have to

1560
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:53.319
<v Speaker 2>do anything. Yeah, I finally get to go home. It's great. Oh,

1561
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy for you. All right. Well, Jacob, thank you

1562
01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:59.159
<v Speaker 2>very much for coming on the episode, for having me.

1563
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Where can people find you they want to take it out?

1564
01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You can find me on the Twitter machine. I won't

1565
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:05.520
<v Speaker 1>call it the other thing. Uh, you can find me

1566
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:08.079
<v Speaker 1>at Jacob McCourt j A c O B M C

1567
01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 1>c O U R T. And that's where everything I

1568
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:11.800
<v Speaker 1>do will be.

1569
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:12.119
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1570
01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I host a couple of podcasts, I write words about

1571
01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.840
<v Speaker 1>video games, and then do video game trivia at any

1572
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:17.840
<v Speaker 1>convention that'll have me.

1573
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:21.520
<v Speaker 2>So maybe you'll have to be on it in a future. Pah,

1574
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.479
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to gotta go to a packs. You gotta

1575
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.279
<v Speaker 2>do it. Sounds like you have a reason though, Yeah, exactly,

1576
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I I have to go. You're welcome it. Thank you

1577
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:32.079
<v Speaker 2>all right, everybody, Thank you so much for listening, and

1578
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we will see you all next time.