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Speaker 5: and his name is Braiden.
Speaker 3: Braiden, how are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 6: I'm doing great. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing really well.
Speaker 5: And thanks for taking the time this afternoon to joyce
Speaker 5: to join us and share your story, and please do
Speaker 5: kick us off and introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 6: Oh, my name is Braiden. I'm twenty five years old.
Speaker 6: I'll be married two years this month. I'm a lubin
Speaker 6: tired technician and I really enjoy like music, film, photography,
Speaker 6: and then especially as of lately last year or two
Speaker 6: or so, learning particularly like with the Truth conspiracies and
Speaker 6: especially pertaining to biblical history has really piqued my interest lately.
Speaker 5: And you know, for somebody who's young, you know, there's
Speaker 5: a and I'm at fault as well, a misconception that
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of the Truth community is a
Speaker 5: little older. But I've had the privilege of you know,
Speaker 5: speaking to close to two hundred people just on this podcast,
Speaker 5: and many of them have been under third So tell
Speaker 5: me a little bit as you were. You can call
Speaker 5: it conspiratorial mindset, or your critical critical thinking skills.
Speaker 3: Where does that come from?
Speaker 6: I'm honestly not really sure, because I feel like from
Speaker 6: a young age I had it. I grew up religious
Speaker 6: in a Southern Baptist family, and I remember really young,
Speaker 6: I would not I don't want to say question, but
Speaker 6: kind of I would feel like, was I like believing
Speaker 6: in everything for the right reason? Like I almost felt
Speaker 6: like I was only believing because I was told. So
Speaker 6: I always feel like I kind of had, you know,
Speaker 6: the critical thinking was there. And then as I got older,
Speaker 6: you know, I got into reading more about politics and
Speaker 6: stuff and how the world works and how the government works,
Speaker 6: and then you know, I started to see kind of
Speaker 6: holes and some things, and then my questions grew. And
Speaker 6: then the more that I looked into it, the more
Speaker 6: I learned, and then the more, you know, the snowball
Speaker 6: just kind of growed or grew.
Speaker 5: Would you say, you're you're a young guy with a family,
Speaker 5: You work hard. Do you find that the way they've
Speaker 5: created this matrix, you know, working forty to fifty hours
Speaker 5: a week, does that take away? Do you find that's
Speaker 5: intentionally detrimental to people trying to investigate this kind of information?
Speaker 6: I do and I feel like one of the most
Speaker 6: frustrating things about waking up to the matrix is waking
Speaker 6: up to it like mentally, but you're physically still in
Speaker 6: the routine of it, because, like you know, you still
Speaker 6: have to go to work, you still have to pay
Speaker 6: the bills, you still have to provide for the family,
Speaker 6: all while knowing what's going on, and you know how
Speaker 6: how things are really operating. And that's that's the frustrating part.
Speaker 5: What was I guess I could ask you what age
Speaker 5: and kind of what was your first rabbit hole that
Speaker 5: you encountered that And I'm not just talking about like,
Speaker 5: you know, the things amongst you know, a normal conversation joking,
Speaker 5: whether it be like the moon landing or JFK, but
Speaker 5: what was the the first real thing that you came
Speaker 5: upon that you actually took the time to investigate and
Speaker 5: realized that the official narrative was completely different from the truth.
Speaker 6: So really it started kind of with like the state
Speaker 6: of politics and the government and the country. I got
Speaker 6: really into independent medias like YouTube shows and stuff about
Speaker 6: two three years ago and kind of got away from
Speaker 6: like the mainstream news, whether it's Fox, MSNBC, any of those,
Speaker 6: and I really liked the way that these independent medias
Speaker 6: they cited their sources, they would let you know where
Speaker 6: it came from, and they really dug deep into things
Speaker 6: and in between the lines that you didn't get from
Speaker 6: the mainstream media. So that is really when I realized, like, Okay,
Speaker 6: things are not, you know, as they have seemed up
Speaker 6: until this point to me. And then I went down
Speaker 6: that rabbit hole. And then it got even deeper for
Speaker 6: me when because when I met my wife, my wife
Speaker 6: is not religious, I guess you could say. When we met,
Speaker 6: she was an agnostic, and so I was, you know,
Speaker 6: I would tell her things about the Bible like that,
Speaker 6: and then I would realize because she would ask me
Speaker 6: questions about it that you know, maybe I don't know
Speaker 6: as much as I thought I did. So I was like,
Speaker 6: I'm going to read this thing cover to cover educate myself,
Speaker 6: because I was like, you know, who am I to
Speaker 6: teach somebody something if I don't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: So I started reading it, and the more I read it,
Speaker 6: the more questions I got from it, the more I
Speaker 6: became kind of confused, I guess, because there was a
Speaker 6: lot of things in it that I had never heard, like,
Speaker 6: you know, in church or in Sunday school, and I
Speaker 6: was kind of reading it. I ended up reading it
Speaker 6: with like, I guess you could say the wrong intentions,
Speaker 6: because by the time I got to the end of
Speaker 6: the Old Testament, I had so much doubt that I
Speaker 6: had kind of concluded like, maybe this is not right,
Speaker 6: maybe this is wrong. So I kind of, for like
Speaker 6: a year, was kind of on that path until I
Speaker 6: got kind of into the conspiracy stuff. And then one
Speaker 6: day I was sitting in bed with my wife and
Speaker 6: she was talking about a video she saw where a
Speaker 6: flat Earth researcher was talking about the point where the
Speaker 6: over thousands of years, you know, the Earth is rotating
Speaker 6: and orbiting and everything in space is moving around, but
Speaker 6: the stars stay in the same spot. The constellations are
Speaker 6: still there, they haven't moved, and that, like, I don't know,
Speaker 6: that did something to me, and I, like I couldn't
Speaker 6: stop thinking about that. So I dove into that, and
Speaker 6: then I found more and more things that just kind
Speaker 6: of fell into place that made so much sense that
Speaker 6: I've never thought about before, just because you know, like
Speaker 6: a lot of people do, I just took it that
Speaker 6: face value, Okay, they say it's round, okay, But then
Speaker 6: I started seeing all these things and it wasn't just
Speaker 6: with the Earth, it was with you know, all kinds
Speaker 6: of other things, archaeology finds of the Bible that I've
Speaker 6: never heard of that obviously don't get talked about, and
Speaker 6: there was just all kinds of things. The more I
Speaker 6: look around and the more I would learn to just
Speaker 6: point back to being you know, substance of the Bible,
Speaker 6: and then that's what really led me to where I'm
Speaker 6: at now.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that the Bible and not necessarily you know,
Speaker 5: books from the twentieth century sent you down that trail,
Speaker 5: because even I'm guilty. Even on my other podcast, when
Speaker 5: doing research get time, you can get wrapped up to
Speaker 5: things of this world. At the same time, you do
Speaker 5: really have to be cognizant of everything that's going on.
Speaker 5: I just spent two hours talking about germ theory on
Speaker 5: the radio, that there are a lot of deceptions. Again,
Speaker 5: it's up to everyone to do their own research and
Speaker 5: come to their own conclusions, but to see somebody be
Speaker 5: able to and again, everybody has their own walls, and
Speaker 5: you know how much they're bought into the matrix, how
Speaker 5: the ability to pull out and look, you know, from
Speaker 5: a distance, like you know, standing on a mountain and
Speaker 5: looking down at everything and getting a clearer picture of life.
Speaker 5: But to be able to discern that helio centrism is
Speaker 5: a lie at such a young age.
Speaker 3: I always find that.
Speaker 5: Just it warms my heart to see because when I
Speaker 5: was twenty five, I was a knucklehead, and if you
Speaker 5: would have told me the Earth was flat, I would
Speaker 5: have laughed at you and gone back to doing the
Speaker 5: things I did.
Speaker 3: So you know, first and foremost, you know, a tip
Speaker 3: of the cap to you.
Speaker 5: And next I would ask you, because everybody why I've
Speaker 5: interviewed had has had a different range of emotions post
Speaker 5: waking up to flat earth or biblical cosmology, however you
Speaker 5: would like to term it, what was yours?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 5: Was it just oh yeah, I should have known? Or
Speaker 5: was it something bigger than that?
Speaker 6: Mine was almost like exciting like it and it still
Speaker 6: is exciting every time I find excuse me, every time
Speaker 6: I find another video or article and learn another factor,
Speaker 6: another piece of evidence or something that I didn't learn before,
Speaker 6: it's like, it's it's exciting like and so I would
Speaker 6: say it was it was an exciting thing to realize
Speaker 6: and then also to because I feel like it came
Speaker 6: at a time when, like recently, because even when I
Speaker 6: was going through the period of like really doubting everything
Speaker 6: and concluding that there probably is no is no meat
Speaker 6: and potatoes or whatever to what the claims of the
Speaker 6: Bible are, I still every now and then would like
Speaker 6: kind of like pray for like a sign, like just
Speaker 6: you know, if you're there, if you're real, give me
Speaker 6: a sign. And so for me to now be awake
Speaker 6: to all these things, see the deception and see that
Speaker 6: there are signs that are kind of clear to see
Speaker 6: that are being hidden from people. That's what really did
Speaker 6: it for me. And I was like, Okay, this, this
Speaker 6: is this is more than just like a book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all great point because you know, we many
Speaker 5: people are tuned into the news twenty four to seven, right,
Speaker 5: and they buy into the fear porn. And I think
Speaker 5: a lot of the stories that have to do with
Speaker 5: space and NASA and rocketry, I don't think they've ever
Speaker 5: been intentionally written. Listen that the moon landing's notwithstanding just
Speaker 5: to kind of plant the seeds in the back of
Speaker 5: your mind subtly because they understand psychology, and as long
Speaker 5: as they continue to repetitively put these news stories out there.
Speaker 5: For instance, yesterday was all about intuitive machines and their
Speaker 5: probe landed on the moon, right, and the Independent people
Speaker 5: out of Austin when they showed their thing land on
Speaker 5: the moon a few days ago, it was just like
Speaker 5: the one in India.
Speaker 3: There's no camera.
Speaker 5: It was a graphic representation from there. It was awful,
Speaker 5: and the people just and there was like a thousand
Speaker 5: people in there, and there were high fives and hugs.
Speaker 5: I'm like, and once you're on this side of the wall,
Speaker 5: like when you understand the lies, it's cringe. It's like
Speaker 5: you just want to grab the people and shake them
Speaker 5: and say, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6: It is. It's like a bad Saturday Night Live skit.
Speaker 3: It really was.
Speaker 5: And I always think of that Indian President's waving his flag.
Speaker 5: You had no clue what was even going on. It's
Speaker 5: just all mockery, it really is.
Speaker 6: It's almost sad in a way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, because you know, while we're laughing about
Speaker 5: it and everything, this is intentionally like you know, going
Speaker 5: full circle. This is intentionally keeping God out of the
Speaker 5: equation and that's exactly what they want, right, that they
Speaker 5: want to keep God out of the equation. They want
Speaker 5: you invested in worldly things. And this is a long,
Speaker 5: multi generational process that was first put in books and writings,
Speaker 5: and then HG. Well's writings, and then you know, through
Speaker 5: movies and television and science fiction, which by the time
Speaker 5: nineteen sixties got here, you were open to believing it
Speaker 5: when just a few hundred years prior they didn't accept heliocentrism.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's it's those kind of things that really
Speaker 6: blow my mind because you don't think about these kind
Speaker 6: of things until you learn about it. But it makes
Speaker 6: so much sense, and it it does because it only
Speaker 6: takes a few generations for you know, once the older
Speaker 6: ones die off and there's nobody around to share the
Speaker 6: stories of what was anymore, and then you know, a
Speaker 6: couple of generations later, boom, everybody's on the same page
Speaker 6: where they want it.
Speaker 3: That's why it's so important.
Speaker 5: And I tell people create your own family handbook. You
Speaker 5: get a three ring binder with document protectors and write,
Speaker 5: print them off, put them in there. You know the
Speaker 5: truth about COVID, that the truth about heliocentrism. Insert you
Speaker 5: know what happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 5: Don't allow your your, your grandchildren's grandchildren's to.
Speaker 3: To fall to this lie. The deception.
Speaker 5: Is so monumental and the way we are, you know,
Speaker 5: so many of our you know, probably the other ninety
Speaker 5: five percent just buy into it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: You have a conversation about somebody about whether it's Tuesday
Speaker 5: night Trump addressing the nation or bo, did you see
Speaker 5: what you know Trump did is a Lenski? And then
Speaker 5: you say something about it and they're like, what are
Speaker 5: you just a crazy liberal?
Speaker 3: I'm like that.
Speaker 5: There's other ways that you are taught, your programmed to
Speaker 5: believe you are. You were either A or B right,
Speaker 5: and they don't want you to be an individual. They
Speaker 5: don't want you You just have to buy in to
Speaker 5: the system.
Speaker 6: Well, and that's one thing that frustrates me a lot,
Speaker 6: not just about the flat Earth or the Bible. Just
Speaker 6: you bring up any topic to somebody that's foreign, and
Speaker 6: instead of being intrigued or even being curious of what
Speaker 6: brought you to that conclusion, it's just, oh, you know,
Speaker 6: or you're crazy, or you're this or you're that. Like
Speaker 6: there was a time, you know, in my life too,
Speaker 6: when you know, I say that as if I'm not
Speaker 6: only twenty five years old. But when I was like
Speaker 6: in high school, you know, there was a time when
Speaker 6: if somebody told me they believed in flat earth, I
Speaker 6: would have probably myself thought it's a little crazy, but
Speaker 6: I would have still wanted to know how, you know,
Speaker 6: they got to that conclusion, what makes them believe that?
Speaker 6: Because you know, nobody's born knowing everything, so maybe somebody
Speaker 6: knows something that I don't. So like to I like
Speaker 6: to ask questions and listen to what other people have
Speaker 6: to say, even if at first it sounds a little
Speaker 6: insane to me, because everything that I know now would
Speaker 6: have sounded crazy to me at one point. But it's
Speaker 6: clear as day now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know a lot of people come on
Speaker 5: the podcast and vent their frustrations about not being able,
Speaker 5: you know, once we gain this knowledge, not being able
Speaker 5: to share it successfully with even people who are very
Speaker 5: close to us in our lives, people who have known
Speaker 5: us our whole lives, but not even you know, not
Speaker 5: being successful, but being completely shut down and being frowned
Speaker 5: upon when we're just trying to present just a little
Speaker 5: different view of something, even when you can certainly point
Speaker 5: out just a few years ago all the lies that
Speaker 5: were propagated against us. You think you'd be able to
Speaker 5: garner even a small audience, but it's very difficult.
Speaker 6: To do so, absolutely, And what blews my mind even more,
Speaker 6: And I think you talked about this on a recent episode,
Speaker 6: but it's that when you bring up something like the
Speaker 6: flat Earth, and you come even with like evidence from
Speaker 6: the Scripture, and you bring it to other Christians, when
Speaker 6: they're so quick to write the topic off. That's what
Speaker 6: kind of baffles me, because you're trying to show them something,
Speaker 6: and you're showing them that that's what it says in
Speaker 6: the Bible that you know they live by, they say
Speaker 6: they live by. So that's what I can't figure out
Speaker 6: is why is that such a taboo topic for them,
Speaker 6: even though you're trying to show them that it's exactly
Speaker 6: what it says in the text.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: That applies to a lot of different things out there.
Speaker 5: You look at Matthew twenty three nine, it talks about
Speaker 5: don't call anyone on Earth your father, and you know,
Speaker 5: if you look within Catholicism, you know that's its.
Speaker 3: Father, father father.
Speaker 5: Then you know there's verses out there that talks about,
Speaker 5: you know, women shouldn't be pastors. It's specifically in the
Speaker 5: New Testament and most dominations, even the Southern Baptist which
Speaker 5: was a big arguing point last summer when they had
Speaker 5: their conference, it's still the thing. So that is once again,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, pop culture or just whatever,
Speaker 5: it is creeping into the church, into the Bible and
Speaker 5: pushing the worldly ways against what we're taught in the Bible.
Speaker 5: And once you start manipulating and saying well, it didn't
Speaker 5: really mean this, or well it didn't really mean that,
Speaker 5: you're really getting into really murky waters and you're you're
Speaker 5: you're doing some dangerous stuff. Really when you start trying
Speaker 5: to manipulate the word to benefit.
Speaker 6: You, absolutely, And I just feel like, and maybe it's
Speaker 6: easier for me to see because I've gone through the
Speaker 6: journey of learning and figuring it all out, but I
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, when it's pretty black and white
Speaker 6: when it comes down to it, if you say you
Speaker 6: believe in the Bible and you are believing in Christ
Speaker 6: and in God, well then I feel like it's pretty simple.
Speaker 6: It's are you going to trust the Word? Are you
Speaker 6: going to trust man? Are you going to trust the
Speaker 6: scientists or are you going to trust the one who
Speaker 6: created everything? I feel like it's really simple when you
Speaker 6: put it down to those terms.
Speaker 3: It's a great example.
Speaker 5: And I'm not browbeating anyone by any way, shape or
Speaker 5: form with my next statement, because everybody was there was
Speaker 5: a lot of people who were put some pretty precarious
Speaker 5: positions during twenty twenty. But when they started, let's just
Speaker 5: use COVID as as an example, when they started pushing
Speaker 5: the fear porn, did we turn to God or did
Speaker 5: we turn and to the guy with a white lab
Speaker 5: coat that had MD at the end of his name.
Speaker 6: Everybody turned to that guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look how many people that it harmed. And
Speaker 5: you know, I the older I get, the more you
Speaker 5: do this, the more you read, the more you realize
Speaker 5: that just about everything is some type of conspiracy. That
Speaker 5: there's not a whole lot of things that we are
Speaker 5: taught or that we are told, whether it be on
Speaker 5: the medical side of the house or even even bigger
Speaker 5: our history. Right, you know, we're told that Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 5: was the greatest president ever. And if anybody would take
Speaker 5: five minutes, and you can even go in the state
Speaker 5: of Illinois Historical website and read the things that this
Speaker 5: guy said between nineteen fifty eight nineteen sixty two. It's
Speaker 5: just there. It's not George saying this.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: When I read something in the Bible, for instance, when
Speaker 5: it says if I say it in front of a
Speaker 5: group of people, well the Bible says a woman can't
Speaker 5: be a pastor, people get mad at me and I say,
Speaker 5: I didn't write it.
Speaker 3: I didn't write it, And it's the same with that.
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, frustrating, and a lot of it
Speaker 6: I can't figure out. I can't decide if it's like
Speaker 6: willful ignorance or if it's just if it's just comfortability
Speaker 6: and not wanting to change any way that you're sitting
Speaker 6: in your worldview. I can't figure out why it's I
Speaker 6: don't know. It's frustrating. I didn't and I don't want
Speaker 6: anybody to believe anything because they're told. Like I don't
Speaker 6: want to just tell someone the earth is flat and
Speaker 6: then okay, it's flat. I want them to understand why,
Speaker 6: and then you know why it's important that we know,
Speaker 6: because that's a big thing I get A lot is is, well,
Speaker 6: why does it matter what shape the Earth is, and
Speaker 6: I feel like it matters a lot, because especially if
Speaker 6: you look at arguments against Christianity or the Bible. That's
Speaker 6: a big one they like to bring up, is that,
Speaker 6: Oh it's it's a book written on like Bronze Age
Speaker 6: science with a flat Earth series in it. Uh, maybe
Speaker 6: there's a reason why. So let's you know, maybe you
Speaker 6: could look into why, and not to mention that a
Speaker 6: bunch of other societies from all over the world also
Speaker 6: have a flat earth model of the globe as well.
Speaker 5: And while technology obviously has become more advanced, that doesn't
Speaker 5: necessarily mean by any stretch of the imagination, society as
Speaker 5: a whole has gotten smarter than it used to be,
Speaker 5: because we would agree, yeah, we're more apt to just
Speaker 5: believe what we're told without take, like you said, without
Speaker 5: taking the time to investigate it. And I say it
Speaker 5: all the time every podcast when I when I discuss
Speaker 5: these things, don't take my word, you know, for the
Speaker 5: end all be all. This is something that I hope
Speaker 5: that provokes thought and it motivates. It gives you enough
Speaker 5: curiosity to get on your browser or open some books
Speaker 5: and do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
Speaker 6: And that's why I feel like, really, it's almost like
Speaker 6: there's no excuse because for the reasons you just said,
Speaker 6: it's the easiest time now to find information. It's all there.
Speaker 6: You just have to go get it. And that's exactly
Speaker 6: what I did and what dream me to my conclusions. Like,
Speaker 6: for example, there was always a verse in Deuteronomy. It's
Speaker 6: twenty to eleven. I believe that says you shall not
Speaker 6: wear clothing combining woolen linen. I always wondered what that
Speaker 6: was about, and I had been learning about resonant frequencies
Speaker 6: and things like that, and then I learned that woolen
Speaker 6: linen have resonant frequencies of five thousand hurts, but they
Speaker 6: vibrate in opposite directions of each other, and five thousand
Speaker 6: hurts allegedly is like a beneficial frequency. It resonates like
Speaker 6: in harmony with the human body and promotes healing and
Speaker 6: things like that. But if you wear wool and linen
Speaker 6: at the same time, because they vibrate opposite of each other,
Speaker 6: they cancel each other out and there's no effect to
Speaker 6: the body. So there's a reason that Deuteronomy says not
Speaker 6: to wear wool and linen so they knew things like
Speaker 6: this back then. I believe that the other things that
Speaker 6: they're saying and there have substance to them too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the i'ma sure the same way they will wear
Speaker 5: linen or they will wear wool they're aware of these things.
Speaker 6: Well, and that's that's exactly why hospital sheets used to
Speaker 6: be i'll be linen for that same reason. But now
Speaker 6: they've swapped it over to all polyester, and we all
Speaker 6: know what that's based on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm so glad you brought that up, because
Speaker 5: I oftentimes tell us they're poisonous through the air, through chemtrails,
Speaker 5: through the water with fluoride, you know, through our food,
Speaker 5: with bioengineered products. But you know that's something we don't
Speaker 5: talk about enough. Is, by the way, the radio frequencies
Speaker 5: as well. But what you wear, the garment you wear,
Speaker 5: and it's right here right thou shouting out, wear a
Speaker 5: garment of sorts is woolen and linen together.
Speaker 3: Simple things like that.
Speaker 5: And then you look at the people who weren't touched
Speaker 5: by modern technology, a lot of homesteaders, a lot of amish.
Speaker 5: They they live their life, they don't worry about an
Speaker 5: asteroid hitting the earth. They don't worry about this, that
Speaker 5: and the other thing, and they follow the Bible and
Speaker 5: they live a very modest life, and people make fun
Speaker 5: of them. I'll look at that guy riding a horse
Speaker 5: and carriage. Yeah he doesn't have a cell phone, but
Speaker 5: look how happy they are. I have never personally seen,
Speaker 5: and I've been in and around the Amish community for
Speaker 5: thirty of my fifty five years, never seen an autistic
Speaker 5: Amish bird. Not saying that they're not out there by
Speaker 5: any stretch of the imagination. But they're young, they're healthy,
Speaker 5: They run around without their shoes on in the gravel,
Speaker 5: and you don't see any any real fat, overweight Amish people.
Speaker 5: They just get it and they live the way that
Speaker 5: I believe more so than we do, that God intended
Speaker 5: us to live.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I bet you know people in modern society
Speaker 6: laugh at them. I'm sure they look at us with
Speaker 6: our cell phones and laugh at us, like, you know,
Speaker 6: we're the ones that caught the disease and they stayed
Speaker 6: free from it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I talked to mister King down there and
Speaker 5: over where we get our feed.
Speaker 3: They never closed. They went to church every Sunday.
Speaker 5: They said, yeah, I'll never forget, he said, Yeah, some
Speaker 5: of us got sick, he said, but you know, everybody
Speaker 5: gets a little sick once a year or twice a
Speaker 5: year anyway, and we move on with their life.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 5: It's just ye, He's like, we don't vaccinate we you
Speaker 5: know obviously, you know, yeah, they do deal with things
Speaker 5: that we do, cancer and things like that, but they're
Speaker 5: different that Their view of medicine is what comes out
Speaker 5: of the ground and what they eat, what goes in
Speaker 5: your body, versus injecting themselves with vaccines or taking psychotropic
Speaker 5: medicines because you know their seven year old is anxious,
Speaker 5: Oh he has ADHD. Let's give him a pill, and
Speaker 5: you're altering a seven year old or ten year old's
Speaker 5: brain that isn't even fully developed. And man, that is
Speaker 5: a deep dark rabbit hole. Psychotropic medicines.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know when people can heal them things
Speaker 6: from the things that they grow in their own yard, yes,
Speaker 6: that's not profitable.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, and a healthy person doesn't make for a
Speaker 5: great business model for the medical industry either. We plant stinging,
Speaker 5: nettled dandelions, all kinds of stuff to help with with
Speaker 5: our own medicines.
Speaker 6: The Dandylione's a big one for me that when I
Speaker 6: found out that it was beneficial, it blew my mind
Speaker 6: because you know, I always see people spring weed killer
Speaker 6: all over them. So I was like, wow, Okay, this
Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense as to why we're told
Speaker 6: to kill it that.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm trying to pinpoint that time when the
Speaker 5: world flipped, when history was rewritten, when we were told
Speaker 5: good things are bad and bad things are good.
Speaker 3: Whether it was post World War two, A lot.
Speaker 5: Of people point eighteen seventy one, A lot of people
Speaker 5: point to you know, right after nineteen hundred. You know,
Speaker 5: you can go back and look at all kinds of
Speaker 5: books that were written in the early eighteen hundreds that
Speaker 5: talk about the benefits of dandelions and stinging nettle and
Speaker 5: mushrooms and all these other things. And then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, you're spraying dandelions with DDT. Not only are
Speaker 5: you being told that dandy lions are weeds and they
Speaker 5: make your yard look hideous, but you're actually spraying carcinogenics
Speaker 5: in your lawn and you're walking on it and your
Speaker 5: dogs are licking it, and just what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 6: I saw that a I forget where I read it at,
Speaker 6: but that the same pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical company that produces a
Speaker 6: drug for I believe it was some kind of lymphoma,
Speaker 6: they merged or they purchased or they bought the company
Speaker 6: that creates round up. So it's like they're selling the
Speaker 6: product and then they're also giving you the cure for
Speaker 6: the problem it creates.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, yeah, Bear, they've been around for a
Speaker 5: long long time, and Gadafi got a lot.
Speaker 6: I've read a lot about Bear.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 5: They're about as bad as Monsanto, and Gaddafi was killed
Speaker 5: for saying. One of the things he was killed for,
Speaker 5: other than trying to start his own monetary system, was
Speaker 5: that the USA right makes the problem and then creates the.
Speaker 6: Cure pure profit. Yes, evil, it.
Speaker 3: Is, it's it's it's awful.
Speaker 5: When you were doing your research for flat Earth, could
Speaker 5: you tell me your six silver bullets or some of
Speaker 5: the things that were overwhelmingly convinced you that we were
Speaker 5: being lied to about heliocentrism, Well, the.
Speaker 6: Number one thing is the stars. Just I feel like
Speaker 6: that's I don't know how you really refute that one.
Speaker 6: The fact that you know the Earth of supposedly rotates
Speaker 6: on its axis. It orbits the Sun. But the solar
Speaker 6: systems moving around the galaxy is moving around. Everything in
Speaker 6: space is moving around at insane amounts of speed. Yet
Speaker 6: the stars have not moved. I don't understand how you
Speaker 6: refute that one. I can't. I've tried. I can't that one.
Speaker 6: I think it's the formula they give us for the
Speaker 6: curve is eight inches per mile. I've seen countless videos
Speaker 6: with you know, the infamous icon P one thousand, and
Speaker 6: then the people in the videos will even also show
Speaker 6: you how far the camera is off the ground, how
Speaker 6: tall things that they're shooting the camera at is, and
Speaker 6: every time I can't wrap my head around how that
Speaker 6: could be faked or how they're incorrect in their statements.
Speaker 6: Another one would probably be a video I saw about
Speaker 6: air traffic controllers talking about how radar works with a
Speaker 6: line of sight, and that the distance that it's supposedly
Speaker 6: picking up these airplanes landing in other airports, it would
Speaker 6: have to shoot the radar through the Earth and out
Speaker 6: the other side to be able to pick up that airplane.
Speaker 6: And there were several air traffic controllers talking about this,
Speaker 6: and that was another thing and that's something you don't
Speaker 6: think about, because why would me and you really think
Speaker 6: about why and how a radar works unless you're employed
Speaker 6: in something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one hundred percent spot on.
Speaker 5: And I'm glad you brought that up because there's actually
Speaker 5: a video that I recently came upon, and this is
Speaker 5: something that I should have picked up because I've mentioned
Speaker 5: before when I was in Wheeler Army Airfield in Hawaii,
Speaker 5: we were in a black Hawk unit. We had seven
Speaker 5: Blackhawks and the TM specific the training manual specifically states
Speaker 5: or the whatever the manual is, the Instruction Manual Technical
Speaker 5: Manual TM.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 5: Specifically stated that to treat that, you know, you're training
Speaker 5: treated as a flat, non rotational earth, and you know
Speaker 5: in the Army you're taught to quote fight as you train.
Speaker 5: But if we're living on a globe with the earth,
Speaker 5: the Earth is spinning one thousand miles per hour, why
Speaker 5: aren't we training that way? Why are we treating the
Speaker 5: earth like it's flat and non rotational? Well, because if
Speaker 5: you know, you get in the helicopter and you go
Speaker 5: up a few hundred feet and you just float there
Speaker 5: without moving, well you should be able to land if
Speaker 5: you stay there for an hour, you should be able
Speaker 5: to land one thousand miles somewhere else, right, if I
Speaker 5: do the math correctly.
Speaker 6: And that's something I've always wondered, even before I came
Speaker 6: to the conclusion of the flat as was how can
Speaker 6: a helicopter hover but the ground not move underneath it?
Speaker 5: And the same with airplane travel. If you're flying, if
Speaker 5: it's you know, moving counter clockwise, all the travels should
Speaker 5: have to go clockwise. Why would you even try to
Speaker 5: catch up with the Earth If you're going five hundred
Speaker 5: miles per hour the Earth is spinning one thousand miles
Speaker 5: pern hour, You're never going to catch up. You're never
Speaker 5: even going to be flying that way.
Speaker 6: Or the fact that they they don't have to dip
Speaker 6: their nose to calculate for the curve, which makes no
Speaker 6: sense because the more you fly, you would just gain
Speaker 6: altitude until you left the atmosphere. If it was a.
Speaker 5: Ball, right, the engines would shut down because of the
Speaker 5: altitude and you would just go down. But that's just
Speaker 5: not the fact that you can ask any pilot, do
Speaker 5: you make an adjustment? You know, do you do turn
Speaker 5: the nose down? Anything that has to do with iliocentrism,
Speaker 5: and they'll say no.
Speaker 3: However, insert Bill Nye explanation here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And funny enough, one of my closest friends is
Speaker 6: an airline pilot, and we have these conversations and I'll
Speaker 6: ask him, you know, do you have to dip the
Speaker 6: nose down for the curve? And he'll say no, and
Speaker 6: then I've have some explanation or this and that. And
Speaker 6: one thing I've noticed not him in particular, because he'll
Speaker 6: talk to me about it, but he'll mention me and
Speaker 6: what I bring up to him to other pilots, and
Speaker 6: pilots in particularly get very defensive about the shape of
Speaker 6: the Earth. I've noticed for some reason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do. There's even a channel on YouTube. I
Speaker 5: can see the guy now, a real skinny guy. Very
Speaker 5: oh man. What's the guy who's always you know, if
Speaker 5: you put anything on YouTube about flat earth?
Speaker 3: Professor Dave. I think his name is not David.
Speaker 6: I've come across him before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Professor Dave.
Speaker 5: And he'll basically tell you that he's a super smart
Speaker 5: guy and anybody who believes flat earth is a cave man.
Speaker 5: And he'll come up with some things, some talking points
Speaker 5: that apparently he doesn't even write and he doesn't even
Speaker 5: have a master's degree. And again this is what I'm
Speaker 5: I'm told, I hear who knows who these people are?
Speaker 5: I completely forgot where I was going here. I completely
Speaker 5: lost my train, and I've thought, how how Yeah, Professor
Speaker 5: Dave and that those type of people who get into
Speaker 5: it and you know that they're quick to use science
Speaker 5: as their answer and that and that's the other problem
Speaker 5: we have, kind of a brief segue away from my
Speaker 5: mind fail there is that when people, you know, I
Speaker 5: mentioned I think last week on the podcast of how
Speaker 5: what is frustrating is if you have a conversation with
Speaker 5: somebody and you actually finally get that seed planted. I've
Speaker 5: made it a point to tell them, if you're going
Speaker 5: to research this, please don't go to Google and look
Speaker 5: at the first two answers, because that really goes to
Speaker 5: show how you know AI the algorithms, because you know,
Speaker 5: if you they do go home.
Speaker 3: And say, well this, you know what?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: I always had questions about water sticking the ball and
Speaker 5: then they put in, you know, the truth about flat
Speaker 5: earth or whatever they do. And Professor Dave and the
Speaker 5: likes are the ones who are going to come up
Speaker 5: and you know, that's the results that YouTube is going
Speaker 5: to give them, that's the results that Google is going
Speaker 5: to give them. And it's very frustrating that once we
Speaker 5: send them off to do their homework, all they're going
Speaker 5: to come upon, unless they're creative, they're going to come
Speaker 5: on things that, you know, the earth or flat Earth
Speaker 5: is archaic, and people like Professor Dave Well.
Speaker 6: Two things that really bother me about that is that
Speaker 6: it's very plainly obvious they google cherry picks answers for
Speaker 6: the narrative because I use the andex which I found
Speaker 6: out because of your show, and I will search be it,
Speaker 6: you know, flatter Earth, politics, anything. I will search the
Speaker 6: same thing on yandex and the same thing on Google.
Speaker 6: And it's very clear that Google gives you curated results
Speaker 6: when yandex is purely giving you the search based off
Speaker 6: of the text you typed into the bar, which is
Speaker 6: what a search engine should do.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 5: And so for me, if for the listeners, if I
Speaker 5: want to find something on YouTube, I'll put in say
Speaker 5: flat earth, but then I'll go to let me go here,
Speaker 5: I'll go to let me just type in flat earth,
Speaker 5: all right, hit enter, and then on the right side,
Speaker 5: you'll see filters. So like I put in Flat Earth,
Speaker 5: Enter a Flat Earther explains time zones and it's mockery.
Speaker 5: One of the best flat Earth fail compilations yet.
Speaker 3: There's Professor Dave.
Speaker 5: Does the Bible actually describe the bab the Bible the
Speaker 5: Earth is flat?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 5: And you know what's interesting this is from answers in Genesis.
Speaker 5: These are the people who say, yes, the Earth is
Speaker 5: only sixty five hundred years old, but they mock flat earthers,
Speaker 5: which to me is really hard to overcome.
Speaker 3: These are the people who are responsible.
Speaker 5: They're in Kentucky and they're the ones who built the arc,
Speaker 5: who like remade the Big Arc, and.
Speaker 6: I didn't know they were the ones that did that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the answer of Genesis. One of the guys who
Speaker 5: is part of it. He's part of And I hope
Speaker 5: I'm getting this right, but I'm not. And I'm sure
Speaker 5: that I'm right about that. The Founded Earth Brothers, who
Speaker 5: I had way on early in this podcast a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago, about four or five months ago, he
Speaker 5: made the trick down there and they had like a
Speaker 5: Q and A and when he stood up in and
Speaker 5: even started to mention the words flat Earth. He was ridiculed,
Speaker 5: and he was very frustrated about that. You know, it's
Speaker 5: because they're spot on that you know the timeline. It's
Speaker 5: not a million years old, it's sixty five hundred years old. However,
Speaker 5: if you try to have a flatterth conversation with the
Speaker 5: folks from Answers and Genesis, they laugh at you.
Speaker 6: Well, then my I guess my question to them would be,
Speaker 6: if they're gonna go as far as to recreate the
Speaker 6: arc from the flood Store, then you know, you got
Speaker 6: to give credit to the entire story. You can't pick
Speaker 6: and choose which parts of the story that you want
Speaker 6: to say are true and what are not. So it
Speaker 6: clearly says in the story that the firmament was open
Speaker 6: to flood the earth. So that would be my question
Speaker 6: to them then, is what about that part of the story.
Speaker 5: And again the problem is they won't even listen to
Speaker 5: the question. They won't even give you the time of day.
Speaker 5: But you know what's a little refreshing if you look
Speaker 5: at the comments. This video that they put on there
Speaker 5: came out ten months ago, says does the Bible actually
Speaker 5: describe the Earth as flat?
Speaker 3: They have over a quarter.
Speaker 5: Of a million views, But I love the comments. What
Speaker 5: people don't understand it's not a floating disk in space,
Speaker 5: right because this guy, what's his name, doctor Danny Faulkner,
Speaker 5: He probably went to the Flat Earth Society website and
Speaker 5: saw that that, you know, flat earths say that the
Speaker 5: Earth is on a floating in space moving up eight
Speaker 5: miles an hours.
Speaker 3: I forget what they say, but yeah they do.
Speaker 5: They have the Arc encounter right behind him talking, so
Speaker 5: that is certainly the people. But it's refreshing to see
Speaker 5: there's eighty two hundred comments and people put some nineteen
Speaker 5: one in the comments. Looking into flat Earth allowed God
Speaker 5: to open my eyes. So there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: who are awake. Even while this doctor, who is a
Speaker 5: early Earth you know, sixty five hundred years believes the
Speaker 5: Arc was the true story, won't tolerate biblical cosmology.
Speaker 6: And that's one thing that gives me hope. Also is
Speaker 6: that I do know there are a lot of other people,
Speaker 6: even of my age, that are coming around to the truth.
Speaker 6: And I see a lot of it on the YouTube
Speaker 6: videos I watched. They'll have clips from tiktoks and stuff
Speaker 6: of young guys you know, my age or around my
Speaker 6: age talking about the same things we're talking about, trying
Speaker 6: to get the word out there, and it's exciting to
Speaker 6: see younger generation is being way more open minded and
Speaker 6: not just believing what we're told by powers that be.
Speaker 6: That is really really refreshing to see and it gives
Speaker 6: me hope for the future.
Speaker 5: Indeed, there are a lot of people and again we
Speaker 5: talk about technology being a double edged sword. Like you
Speaker 5: mentioned earlier, you know this is we're living in a
Speaker 5: timeline where there's no excuse for at least having the
Speaker 5: resources to at least look into something. Obviously, you have
Speaker 5: to be careful of where you're getting the information from.
Speaker 5: That goes without saying. But when I was growing up,
Speaker 5: if I wanted to do research, we had a set
Speaker 5: of encyclopedes in our house that we're twenty years old,
Speaker 5: where we went to the library, you know, and now
Speaker 5: literally histories at our fingertips. Again, once again, you have
Speaker 5: to be very cognizant of where you're getting the information,
Speaker 5: who's providing the information, take that information to do further research.
Speaker 5: You can't read one article and make a decision based
Speaker 5: off of that one an article, but there's so much
Speaker 5: info out there and you know, I am saying, like
Speaker 5: you said, more and more people using their discernment to
Speaker 5: come to their their thoughts.
Speaker 6: And I feel like that's not that's not a coincidence.
Speaker 6: I feel like if it was such a wild concept
Speaker 6: and such a preposterous idea, that there wouldn't be so
Speaker 6: many people a, you know, coming to this conclusion, and
Speaker 6: b not only coming to the conclusion, but coming with
Speaker 6: reasons and with evidence and facts that show you why
Speaker 6: they came to that conclusion. So it's not just a
Speaker 6: bunch of people that are, oh, I believe this because
Speaker 6: I was told to or because it looks cool. It's
Speaker 6: people that believe it because they truly believe it. And
Speaker 6: that's what I think is makes it so powerful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, spot on.
Speaker 5: And I was just pulling up an article that I
Speaker 5: wanted to read really quickly, the you know, the with
Speaker 5: the answers in Genesis. So ken Ham has a blog,
Speaker 5: He's the one behind the arc encounter, et cetera. There
Speaker 5: was an article he wrote August second, twenty nineteen from
Speaker 5: his blog and he still e goes the same sentiments
Speaker 5: in the past. I would hear atheists argue that the
Speaker 5: Bible supposedly teaches a flat earth, and therefore we can't
Speaker 5: trust anything it says about science. But now it's not
Speaker 5: just atheists arguing the Bible teaches a flat earth. Listen
Speaker 5: to this, Okay, it's some Christians too who have sadly
Speaker 5: fallen for flat earth arguments and now believe that's what
Speaker 5: the Bible teaches. And then he goes to say flat
Speaker 5: earthers will frequently bring up poetic passive. So do you
Speaker 5: see what he's saying here? These are poetic passages talking
Speaker 5: about job. Yeah, job, which is what is the if
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, that's the one under the clay, right
Speaker 5: under the clay, under the seal. And then psalms, which
Speaker 5: is obviously nineteen one. But that's only two. There's many,
Speaker 5: many more. Just read Genesis chapter one. But he goes
Speaker 5: on to say that because the phrases like ends of
Speaker 5: the Earth were references to a setting sun up here,
Speaker 5: but those passages are poetry.
Speaker 6: Well, anybody that would refer to specifically the Genesis creation
Speaker 6: story as quote unquote poetic, I feel like that you
Speaker 6: would lose a lot of credibility just by that statement.
Speaker 6: With me anyway.
Speaker 5: It's very frustrating, but Unfortunately, you know, you have these
Speaker 5: guys Danny Faulkner, who is part of the answers in Genesis.
Speaker 3: Who do you want to get he has? Do you
Speaker 3: want to guess what his PhD is in?
Speaker 6: I have no idea. I'm afraid to know.
Speaker 3: Astronomy.
Speaker 6: Of course it is.
Speaker 5: So he's not going to tolerate the conversation of flat Earth, right.
Speaker 5: He believes in the Biblical flood, he believes in the
Speaker 5: arc story, he believes in Young Earth. But if you
Speaker 5: dare challenge what he spent, you know, he's a master.
Speaker 5: So with six years at the University of Indiana in astronomy.
Speaker 3: That's.
Speaker 5: You know, we talk about the education system and how
Speaker 5: dangerous it is, and they can't see past it because
Speaker 5: he literally has a PhD in astronomy.
Speaker 6: And I feel like that that's to me, to me,
Speaker 6: being him in his position, having a degree in astronomy
Speaker 6: and trying to share the word like he does, that's
Speaker 6: like being a firefighter that's an arsonist, Like it just
Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense. It counteracts and it's not you know,
Speaker 6: I know a lot of the Bible people can say
Speaker 6: is up for interpretation, but there's a lot most of it,
Speaker 6: I would say is is written pretty pretty clear to see,
Speaker 6: and it states things like the firmament. It states the
Speaker 6: waters above separated from the waters below, so that right there,
Speaker 6: I don't know how you can say you're a believer
Speaker 6: of that but then also be as student of astronomy.
Speaker 3: It was really.
Speaker 5: I'd listen to Kemhn for a while and I try
Speaker 5: not to be the guy to throw the baby out
Speaker 5: with the bath water, But when you see some things
Speaker 5: like what was the argument he used that Psalm's twenty
Speaker 5: three to two God does not literally lie us down
Speaker 5: in green pastures as per Psalm twenty three to two,
Speaker 5: it's very frustrating, especially when you have a guy who
Speaker 5: was into astronomy and they turned it into If you
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Speaker 5: So they turned it into sellings.
Speaker 6: Something, which is how you know the intentions aren't.
Speaker 3: Pure exactly, And.
Speaker 5: It's very frustrating when when there's somebody that's close right
Speaker 5: you take the flood literally? Do you take Genesis six?
Speaker 5: Do you take Genesis nine, the Tower of Babel. Was
Speaker 5: that literal or was that a poem?
Speaker 3: Right? And the flood, where did the ring? Did it?
Speaker 3: Just Raine? Where did the water come from?
Speaker 5: Because if you read the Bible, it came from the firmament, right,
Speaker 5: So what is poetic about that?
Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought up the Tower of Babel because
Speaker 6: that's one thing that recently I've been thinking about was,
Speaker 6: you know, everybody knows the story of the Tower of Babel.
Speaker 6: They were trying to build the tower to get to God,
Speaker 6: but God knocked it back down because we aren't supposed
Speaker 6: to get there. So if we can't build a tower
Speaker 6: to get just as high as they did when they
Speaker 6: did that, why would we be able to take a
Speaker 6: rocket and go any higher than that?
Speaker 3: Of course? And that's my point.
Speaker 5: It's really evil and angering when you think about it,
Speaker 5: because I think when I first first started the podcast,
Speaker 5: I mentioned that these people were trying to get into
Speaker 5: heaven and now they're using your tax dollars. That's what
Speaker 5: really at the end of the day, NASA and this
Speaker 5: is all about. They're trying to They were doing it
Speaker 5: in the fifties with Operation fish Bowl or dominic whatever
Speaker 5: it was. So you're literally financially supporting these people trying
Speaker 5: to overthrow God.
Speaker 6: I mean, what is it, sixty seventy million a day
Speaker 6: they get.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like seventy million dollars every single day. And
Speaker 5: then you have your SpaceX and they tell you Elon
Speaker 5: Musk runs that, but he also works for the government.
Speaker 5: And one of the biggest no nos in the world
Speaker 5: and contracting is no government official can be allowed to
Speaker 5: have a government contract.
Speaker 3: But people still believe that that that's real. It's just not.
Speaker 5: You know, Trump says I'm going to take the Panama
Speaker 5: Canal and Blackrock buys it yesterday, and people clap that
Speaker 5: that black Rock has yet another thing under them. It's
Speaker 5: it's important, and and again it's very frustrating to know
Speaker 5: that your tax dollars is going they're trying to get
Speaker 5: through the firmament. They're trying to they're using your money
Speaker 5: that you work so hard for to a like overthrow
Speaker 5: God and to be to lie to people to make
Speaker 5: them believe that, you know, we're going to go to Mars,
Speaker 5: We're going back to the moon. And like we talked
Speaker 5: about just a little while ago, they show these videos
Speaker 5: of you know these sorry like atari six hundred graphic representations.
Speaker 5: Oh look, we just landed on the moon again. And
Speaker 5: these adult grown adults are hugging and clapping and high
Speaker 5: fiving and dancing. It's so cringe and it's hard for
Speaker 5: me to to grasp and digest the level of cog
Speaker 5: of dissonance that we're living in.
Speaker 6: It is, and once you once you're aware and you
Speaker 6: can see it, it becomes so obvious that, like you
Speaker 6: said before, it is it makes it cringey to almost
Speaker 6: look around and and it almost makes you feel bad,
Speaker 6: like not in like a not in like a holier
Speaker 6: than that way, but like like a feel bad like
Speaker 6: as for these other people that they're they're caught up
Speaker 6: in the lies and that they live their life by
Speaker 6: a lot of these lives, and their lives have been
Speaker 6: formed around these lives. And that's what that's what's really
Speaker 6: sad to me and almost sickening.
Speaker 5: It's a good way to put it, because it's you know,
Speaker 5: for many people, even people who are wide awake in
Speaker 5: the truth community, they do get upset by it. But then,
Speaker 5: like you said, and I think you're the first person
Speaker 5: to ever put it this way, and I applaud you
Speaker 5: for saying it that way, Like, our minds are awake
Speaker 5: and are out of the matrix, but our bodies are not. Right,
Speaker 5: We're still doing the things right. Our mind has left
Speaker 5: the matrix, but our bodies are still in.
Speaker 6: And that that's that's probably the hardest part of it
Speaker 6: is being like it's like you, I went from being
Speaker 6: a non self aware government pawn or whatever to a
Speaker 6: self aware pawn. And that's the frustrating part is now
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, now I know what the system is
Speaker 6: and what I'm a part of. But now it's like,
Speaker 6: how do you get out? And that's the hard part
Speaker 6: because it's purposely been made to where you really can
Speaker 6: get out of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, it is frustrating.
Speaker 5: And then you know, the big question comes after it, Right,
Speaker 5: if I bring up a problem, I was always taught
Speaker 5: if you're gonna, you know, say hey, there's a problem,
Speaker 5: you should be prepared to be asked, well, what's your
Speaker 5: what do you think the solution should be? And I
Speaker 5: always try to think, well, what is the solution? How
Speaker 5: do we break the matrix? Right in the movie, he
Speaker 5: just went on the roof and shot the satellite and
Speaker 5: that broke the matrix right, and everybody woke up and
Speaker 5: saw the Reptilians for what they were. But you know,
Speaker 5: I think it does start with, you know, spreading the
Speaker 5: ultimate truth first, and that's getting people invested in the
Speaker 5: Gospel of Jesus Christ. But then to actually get them
Speaker 5: to wake up all the way and break the matrix.
Speaker 5: Because I can just go back seven minutes to when
Speaker 5: we were talking about you know, ken Ham, doctor Faulkner,
Speaker 5: these people who are Christians and are saved by God
Speaker 5: but completely buy into science and astronomy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just in one one hand, I feel like
Speaker 6: I can understand because there was a time when I
Speaker 6: bought into all of it. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: I still asked questions and I didn't take everything, you know,
Speaker 6: at purely faced value. So for people to really just
Speaker 6: you know, be able to see one piece of information
Speaker 6: or get told one thing by one person and then
Speaker 6: that's that's their whole reality that I can't wrap my
Speaker 6: head around that because I personally have never been that way.
Speaker 5: Have you had any success of sharing this with with others?
Speaker 3: That's the big go ahead.
Speaker 6: Some members of my family I have not entirely like
Speaker 6: they're like Oh, okay, I'm on the same page as you.
Speaker 6: But I've definitely got the ball rolling by using scripture
Speaker 6: videos I've found of them going through and detailing the
Speaker 6: down to like the translation from Hebrew the Genesi Historian
Speaker 6: why it's, you know, the firmament and how like you know,
Speaker 6: some translations will say he stretched the skies, but broken
Speaker 6: down to his truest translation, it is the firmament. And
Speaker 6: so with things like that, a couple of members of
Speaker 6: my family I've gotten to to start thinking about it,
Speaker 6: but for the most part, it's usually just you know, like, oh,
Speaker 6: why does it matter? You know? And things like that,
Speaker 6: which my favorite way I've heard it put an answer
Speaker 6: to the why does it matter? Question? Is probably I
Speaker 6: think we mentioned that already, the who are you going
Speaker 6: to trust the Creator or mankind?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: And the Bible is very clear about that in Psalms
Speaker 5: one eighteen eight and many other verses. You got to
Speaker 5: put your trust in the Lord, not in demand.
Speaker 6: It's that simple, and I just I feel like if
Speaker 6: if there was a way to get that to click
Speaker 6: with more people, that that would That's probably a good
Speaker 6: way to go about it is starting with that and
Speaker 6: getting the ball run in that way, because I will
Speaker 6: always preface the conversation by asking you believe in the
Speaker 6: Bible correct, and of course it's always yes, you believe
Speaker 6: it's the true divine word, yes, And then I show
Speaker 6: them where it, you know, the firmament the earth is
Speaker 6: stationary and shall not be moved. And then that's when
Speaker 6: the questions and stuff come in. So that's I'm still
Speaker 6: trying to get through in that point. But really, outside
Speaker 6: of my family, I haven't really tried to talk to
Speaker 6: anybody about it, just because I'm not sure. I'm not
Speaker 6: really sure how to bring it up without immediately getting
Speaker 6: met with like total skepticism and shut down. So I
Speaker 6: guess in a way, I'm kind of like practicing with
Speaker 6: my family.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in a in a public setting, sometimes it can
Speaker 5: be difficult.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you hope when you're when you're chatting with someone,
Speaker 5: you just hope that maybe the conversation will go somewhere
Speaker 5: near space or something like that where you can kind
Speaker 5: of slide it in. Like, you know, I heard this
Speaker 5: podcast the other day and they brought up flat earth.
Speaker 5: But you're right, if you just try to come out,
Speaker 5: you know, hey, Jim, what'd you do this? Weekend. Now
Speaker 5: you went fishing. Hey, did you know the earth was flat?
Speaker 5: It's just it's it's because of the way the system
Speaker 5: has been implemented, in the way that the propaganda has
Speaker 5: been used against us since we were tiny little babies
Speaker 5: with the solar system above our crib. It's a hard
Speaker 5: nut to crack.
Speaker 6: It's also hard because when you know, especially anytime I
Speaker 6: learn something new about it, or when I first, you know,
Speaker 6: my mind clicked on it, I was excited and I
Speaker 6: want to tell everybody, and it's like, I'm just you know,
Speaker 6: you you've learned this truth and you you're jones and
Speaker 6: to get it out there. But you you know that
Speaker 6: it's going to be met with that kind of of criticism,
Speaker 6: and that that's the hard part, because it's that you
Speaker 6: want to talk about it. And another thing, too, is
Speaker 6: that I guess it's easier to think that it's going
Speaker 6: to be well recepted because you understand it. But this
Speaker 6: was like a two year long thing for me that
Speaker 6: brought me to this point. So it's I forget sometimes
Speaker 6: that it's going to take more than probably just me
Speaker 6: having one conversation with somebody for them to fully understand
Speaker 6: what I understand.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's a great point. But you know, they always
Speaker 5: do disclose the truth. And that's the part that it
Speaker 5: can be frustrating because when you when you come upon
Speaker 5: any particular abbit hole and then you think back to
Speaker 5: all the different times in your life that you actually
Speaker 5: questioned it, but you stopped there, you didn't take that
Speaker 5: extra step. For instance, I'm reading a book now, William
Speaker 5: Trebbing's Goodbye Germ Theory.
Speaker 3: How many times when we went to the.
Speaker 5: Doctors growing up or even as adults, when we got
Speaker 5: our monthly you know, before sports, like for us it
Speaker 5: was August. We had to go see the doctors before
Speaker 5: to get our physical signed right, and we would get
Speaker 5: our flu shot.
Speaker 3: That's just it was what it was.
Speaker 5: You saw the doctor in August, he signed your slip,
Speaker 5: gave your your flu shot, and then you went and
Speaker 5: played football or soccer whatever it was for the year.
Speaker 5: But how many times has anyone ever asked the doctor,
Speaker 5: you know, what's in that vaccine? For instance, you know,
Speaker 5: there's something called indemnity, and they put the side effects
Speaker 5: of every vaccine in the packet inserts that comes with
Speaker 5: the vaccines. And if you, for instance, take DPT, the
Speaker 5: inside of the pack will say as clear as day,
Speaker 5: the side effects are a severe temperature over one hundred
Speaker 5: and five degrees or more, collapse, autism, hyper So people
Speaker 5: need to stop with the autism as a conspiracy theory,
Speaker 5: because if you look on the insert of a DPT vaccine,
Speaker 5: it clearly says that is a possible side effect, unconsciousness,
Speaker 5: focal neurological symptoms, all these other things in black and white.
Speaker 3: But when has anyone in their.
Speaker 5: Life actually the doctor pulled out the side effects and
Speaker 5: read it to him before getting a vaccine.
Speaker 6: Well, there's a reason we never get our hands on
Speaker 6: the packaging.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, which I feel like.
Speaker 6: If then maybe I'm wrong. I'm not a medical professional,
Speaker 6: but I feel like with something as minute as like
Speaker 6: a like a flu vaccine, if somebody could administer themselves
Speaker 6: a say, like a insolent shot, couldn't I administer myself
Speaker 6: a little shot like that, or at least let me
Speaker 6: get a hold of the package, and you know, to
Speaker 6: look at what is coming in. But anytime I've ever
Speaker 6: gotten one, you know, the nurse comes in with the tray,
Speaker 6: everything's already unwrapped out on the table, no labels in sight.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: There was a very famous video in twenty twenty one
Speaker 5: of a guy who went to a CVS or a
Speaker 5: Walgreens and he asked for the insert to the COVID
Speaker 5: vaccine and the guy just wouldn't do it. Then he
Speaker 5: went into another one he got the insert and it
Speaker 5: was blank. It was a giant, blank piece of paper.
Speaker 5: And of course, I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you why.
Speaker 5: They don't want you giving yourself a vaccine. They want
Speaker 5: to send you to the doctor. So not only will
Speaker 5: you walk out with the vaccine, but if you're lucky enough,
Speaker 5: you can walk out with some you know, psychotropic pills.
Speaker 5: How you feel today, George, I don't know, doctor, I'm
Speaker 5: just you know, things aren't going really good. Oh you
Speaker 5: may have an insert, you know, depression, So we're going
Speaker 5: to give you a le pro or something like that, celebres,
Speaker 5: you know, whatever they're called. And man, if you think
Speaker 5: the side effects on vaccines are bad, go look at
Speaker 5: psychotropic medicines and what they've done to the world.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I think there's over one hundred million people who take
Speaker 5: psychotropic medicines every day, and over a third of them
Speaker 5: are right here in the United States, including.
Speaker 6: And I feel like with the medicines like that. That's
Speaker 6: another case of cause of creating the problem to sell
Speaker 6: the solution, because I feel like if you look around
Speaker 6: and look at the state of the world and the
Speaker 6: fact that being living paycheck to paycheck and almost being
Speaker 6: poor is like the new normal, at least in America,
Speaker 6: that would put making almost anybody depressed, especially if you're
Speaker 6: working as hard as most people do and feel like
Speaker 6: you're chasing a moving goalpost. So I feel like it's
Speaker 6: it's like they're just medicating us to keep us happy
Speaker 6: and the depressing system they've created, and that's what it
Speaker 6: feels like to me, like, just take your happy pill
Speaker 6: and continue working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, that's a great point.
Speaker 5: And shortly after the National Vaccine Act was passing eighty six,
Speaker 5: taking you big Pharma off of the the loop, you know,
Speaker 5: not being able to sue them, the vaccine schedule went
Speaker 5: through the roop, and I remember that through the roof.
Speaker 3: Pardon me.
Speaker 5: There was a paper written right around nineteen ninety where
Speaker 5: the pharmaceutical companies were making at that point five billion
Speaker 5: dollars a year, but they were making like fifty billion
Speaker 5: a year off of the side effects from the five billion,
Speaker 5: right so they were actually making ten times more on
Speaker 5: treating the side effects than the initial treatment.
Speaker 6: Well, I believe it was what Rockefeller that that stripped
Speaker 6: the medical teachings of all the natural remedies yep, and
Speaker 6: then instilled his petroleum based pills and then created the
Speaker 6: National Cancer Association when those started giving everybody cancer.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: So it's it's a it's a pattern that's been going on,
Speaker 6: and it's once you see it, it's it's clear as day.
Speaker 3: It really is. It really is.
Speaker 5: And you know, when we have these conversations, there are
Speaker 5: so many rabbit holes, and and that really goes to
Speaker 5: point that you know, Satan's greatest tool is deceit. And
Speaker 5: you know, if you think they're lying about everything except
Speaker 5: we're on a spinning ball hurtling through a never ending space,
Speaker 5: that I mean, come on, we got to do better
Speaker 5: in that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if they're going to lie to you
Speaker 6: about one thing, what's stopping them, why wouldn't they lie
Speaker 6: about other things? What's going to stop them?
Speaker 3: There? Yep?
Speaker 5: And that again, it's getting people invested in worldly things.
Speaker 5: That's like astronomy and you know, landing on Mars, and
Speaker 5: if you talk bad about it it's like, Wow, you're
Speaker 5: you're just you're you're crapping all over man's great accomplishments.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: I saw somebody comment maybe it was an email I
Speaker 5: got from somebody, because to me that the moon landing
Speaker 5: both biblically and you know, worldly, it is the one
Speaker 5: of the easiest things to poke holes in. Right, it's
Speaker 5: just a joke, but there's there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: who hold that very near and dear to their heart.
Speaker 5: They get very upset and they say that you're disrespecting
Speaker 5: mankind's accomplishments.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't see this really.
Speaker 6: I mean, that just shows how deep the brainwashing goes.
Speaker 6: And it's, you know, all the plan you get everyone
Speaker 6: together to watch this big event together, and then you're
Speaker 6: gonna have that emotional connection to it. And that's the
Speaker 6: key right there, I think is the emotional connection is
Speaker 6: where the brainwashing really takes hold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a pretty good point. And that takes
Speaker 5: me back to I guess eighty six the Challenger. They
Speaker 5: just happened to roll a TV into every single class
Speaker 5: in the United States and we all sat there together
Speaker 5: and watched that happen.
Speaker 8: That was just more an indoctrination, I believe, yeah it was,
Speaker 8: and it was also you know, if you question it,
Speaker 8: how dare you disgrace those people? All the world's of
Speaker 8: stage and the guy who wrote that never even existed
Speaker 8: Shakespeare and never even existed.
Speaker 5: It was Francis Bacon. So when you peel back all
Speaker 5: the layers of the onions, it's just all of it
Speaker 5: is theater, all of it is deception, and that the
Speaker 5: easiest way is just to stop watching TV, turn off
Speaker 5: your CNN, you know, stop paying for your propaganda, stop
Speaker 5: paying for your brainwashing, right, investing in your your Netflix and.
Speaker 3: Rotting your brain.
Speaker 5: Pick up a book, take a walk, or's so many
Speaker 5: other good things to do.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean most of the time. I mean,
Speaker 6: my wife and I will watch a movie or a
Speaker 6: you know, a show every now and then, But most
Speaker 6: of the time, if we're watching TV, it's it's some
Speaker 6: kind of documentary or it's a compilation of like educational
Speaker 6: clips about you know, it might be conspiracy, typed it
Speaker 6: might just be purely something learning about how something works.
Speaker 6: But we we've noticed too that since we've adopted this,
Speaker 6: like not I don't know if you've ever heard the
Speaker 6: term doom scrolling. Yeah, yeah, people just scrolling through TikTok
Speaker 6: at mindless, meaningless crap. And since we've kind of cut
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff out and we just watch stuff
Speaker 6: that's beneficial to the mind, it's like you you almost
Speaker 6: physically feel better doing that.
Speaker 3: Oh ah.
Speaker 5: And to me, you know, we're all the same way.
Speaker 5: We'll all you know, we get stressed out. We just
Speaker 5: need because even in this being down the rabbit holes
Speaker 5: always say you have to come up for her sometimes
Speaker 5: and you do have to do mindless things or you know,
Speaker 5: like for us, our thing is gone bowling once a week,
Speaker 5: just to get out and do something together fun as
Speaker 5: a group. But you know, again, I was someone who
Speaker 5: also you know, I'd paid for the propaganda because you
Speaker 5: go to the movies, Family of Four, popcorn everything, you know,
Speaker 5: you pay sixty seventy bucks and then you go you
Speaker 5: it down and you have propaganda push down your brain.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It starts with universal the moon or whatever outer space,
Speaker 5: and then you know, my wife was big into science
Speaker 5: fiction for a long time. And then you come to
Speaker 5: realize because you know, she was right on board with
Speaker 5: me many years ago with flat Earth. And then you
Speaker 5: start connecting the dots. And while all this really just
Speaker 5: wasn't entertainment, it was to get you to to buy
Speaker 5: off and even defend helio centrism.
Speaker 6: And that's another thing I really noticed that I learned
Speaker 6: from listening to your show was the how much the
Speaker 6: globe appears in movies and TV. And I noticed it
Speaker 6: so often now that it'll be a show has nothing
Speaker 6: to do with space or the premise of Earth at all.
Speaker 6: It could be, you know, a drama about a murder
Speaker 6: and for some reason, then multiple shots there'll be a globe,
Speaker 6: or they'll be for some reason an explanation of the globe.
Speaker 6: And I noticed that now almost in everything I watched
Speaker 6: that it's they stick it somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: And for me, I started noticing it, you know, I
Speaker 5: started going back, and it was probably the mid fifties
Speaker 5: when it really started to become prevalent in all the
Speaker 5: TV shows except for you know, the old westerns, Bonanza
Speaker 5: or whatever. But I bet you could find one or
Speaker 5: two in there at some point.
Speaker 6: And I have noticed that as well, because I do
Speaker 6: like watching older films from the thirties forties, and I
Speaker 6: noticed that it's different then it's I do notice sometimes
Speaker 6: there is propaganda in there, but it's a lot different
Speaker 6: than the way it is now. It almost I know
Speaker 6: it still is, but it almost seems like it was
Speaker 6: less sinister than than it is now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 5: Now, there was some in the twenties, there was a
Speaker 5: lot of propaganda that came out of YMR Germany, but
Speaker 5: that that was squelched obviously in the thirties. And you're right,
Speaker 5: I too, will watch movies from the thirties, forties, and fifties,
Speaker 5: and then once the sixties kind of when it turned
Speaker 5: into the sixties, I think that's really when they started introducing,
Speaker 5: pardon me, the debauchery that the science fiction like started
Speaker 5: going full you know, full speed ahead and bringing on
Speaker 5: I get you if you want to call it the
Speaker 5: new World Order, or you know, pushing that agenda towards
Speaker 5: the new World order, you know, the brainwashing, the propaganda,
Speaker 5: and the debauchery. Which is really a big part of
Speaker 5: the sixties and forward is normalizing the things we hear
Speaker 5: on the radio today, that we see on the TV today,
Speaker 5: a lot of things that shouldn't be anywhere near our children.
Speaker 6: No, and that that's a big issue too. I have
Speaker 6: with I feel like there's definitely the moral of decay
Speaker 6: of society, which you know, ties into everything we've been
Speaker 6: talking about. But that is one thing I've noticed just
Speaker 6: since I feel like I've been around that I feel like,
Speaker 6: you know, coming up as a kid, I feel like
Speaker 6: even I noticed that that people act different. The things
Speaker 6: that come on TV or the radio. They used to
Speaker 6: the sensors would have gotten knocked down nowadays. The stuff
Speaker 6: that they let fly is insane to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've even normalized the F word now, which is
Speaker 5: just crazy to me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not telling anybody how to live, how
Speaker 5: to talk, but that's one thing that turns me off
Speaker 5: if I listen, try to listen to a podcast and
Speaker 5: they just curse, not stop. It just takes I'm trying
Speaker 5: to learn something from my list entertained, sure, but I
Speaker 5: heard enough of that in my twenty four years in
Speaker 5: the Army. I don't really want to hear it anymore. Again,
Speaker 5: I'm not playing holier than now. We all get upset
Speaker 5: and say something every now and then, but the way
Speaker 5: it's become normalized is what I'm trying to get to.
Speaker 5: Like every fifth word is an F bomb or something.
Speaker 5: I don't want to listen to a podcast that is
Speaker 5: full of that.
Speaker 6: No. And I feel like that there's reasons that these
Speaker 6: words have the power that they do because people, you know,
Speaker 6: I've always heard like, oh, well, the reactions give the
Speaker 6: words power. But I've read I've read articles and seen
Speaker 6: videos going back into like frequencies where they would take
Speaker 6: these microscopic water molecules and they would they would speak
Speaker 6: different things at them, and certain phrases or words like
Speaker 6: I love you or words of like endearment or love
Speaker 6: would would create like these beautiful patterns with the water.
Speaker 6: But then like curse words or words like hate or
Speaker 6: negative words would make the water molecules have these like
Speaker 6: kind of horrible looking deteriorated patterns. And it didn't matter
Speaker 6: what language or what tone they were saying these things
Speaker 6: in it was the good things were resulting in beautiful patterns,
Speaker 6: the bad things were resulting in broken looking patterns. And
Speaker 6: I feel like that too, could makes so much sense
Speaker 6: going back to the Bible, because especially I like to
Speaker 6: look at it as like, you know, God spoke everything
Speaker 6: to existence, So the fact that everything at its it
Speaker 6: breaks down to a frequency, to me, that's also proof
Speaker 6: that he's the creator because it's like we're you know
Speaker 6: they talk about in space, there's still the cosmic background
Speaker 6: radiation from the Big Bang. Well, it's almost like the
Speaker 6: fact that us and everything around us at its or
Speaker 6: is a frequency. It's like we are the like you know,
Speaker 6: vibration from his voice from all that time ago. And
Speaker 6: that's how I like to look at it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's very beautifully said. And for the listeners, I
Speaker 5: will tell you I'm gonna put in the show notes
Speaker 5: make sure you check this out. And I think it's
Speaker 5: come up two or three times in previous engagements with
Speaker 5: the listeners. But I think it was called the Impossible
Speaker 5: Rice Experiment, and it was done over two months. That
Speaker 5: was three jars, one marked with love, one with hate,
Speaker 5: and one that was just ignored, and put Rice in
Speaker 5: each one and the positive energy and the love jar
Speaker 5: caused it to grow healthy.
Speaker 3: And then the hate jar it died. It's just it's
Speaker 3: pretty pretty amazing.
Speaker 5: And if you imagine, you know, if you change out
Speaker 5: the rice for children, think about that for a second,
Speaker 5: Like you talk to rice with love, you talk to
Speaker 5: rice with hate. One you know, just grows exponentially, does
Speaker 5: what the other one just turns and fades not now
Speaker 5: replaced that with children and how important it is to
Speaker 5: treat a child with love. And of course I'm not
Speaker 5: saying not the discipline a child, right a child with
Speaker 5: no discipline is going to be a little terrorist running around.
Speaker 6: But those those who spare the rod hate their.
Speaker 5: Kids exactly, exactly, and that that is something that we
Speaker 5: once again the world has gotten in the way with
Speaker 5: that they tell you.
Speaker 3: How you're supposed to raise your children, et cetera.
Speaker 5: But it's a very interesting and I actually had someone
Speaker 5: who redid this experiment the way it was done, and
Speaker 5: she said the same results as this guy.
Speaker 3: It's just amazing.
Speaker 6: And I firmly believe all of that to be fact.
Speaker 6: And that's one thing that worries me about today, is
Speaker 6: because I truly believe that they have They know obviously
Speaker 6: how frequencies and stuff like that can affect mood and
Speaker 6: mind in the body. And you know, with things like music,
Speaker 6: especially the mainstream music nowadays, that not only the celebrities
Speaker 6: that these kids look up to and the way they act,
Speaker 6: but the lyrics that are in the music, the things
Speaker 6: that they put in the music, be it subliminal or whatever.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's one of the largest weapons that
Speaker 6: they're using against us, in the fact that you know,
Speaker 6: teenagers and people that are still of malleable ages are
Speaker 6: some of the biggest consumers of the mainstream popular music. Now.
Speaker 6: That is really concerning to me, and I feel like
Speaker 6: a big cause of the moral decay and the seems
Speaker 6: like backwardsness of society.
Speaker 5: Well said, we have a few minutes left. I wanted
Speaker 5: to talk to you a little bit about your new
Speaker 5: journey and it's called des Television or D's TV. And
Speaker 5: I'm going to have the link to your new YouTube channel,
Speaker 5: part of a YouTube channel that'll be kicking off here
Speaker 5: in the near future. You can go ahead in and
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Speaker 5: starts publishing material which I just subscribe to tell us
Speaker 5: a little bit about what your plans are, what you
Speaker 5: want to talk about, and what's the future with DCTV.
Speaker 6: Thank you, So yeah. I basically it's an avenue that
Speaker 6: I can kind of talk about things like this without
Speaker 6: having to to deal with, like you know, the the
Speaker 6: immediate shutdown, and I feel like doing it that way too.
Speaker 6: I can kind of curate the videos in a way
Speaker 6: that can kind of like peak an interest instead of
Speaker 6: just you know, jumping into a conversation, somebody will have
Speaker 6: to see the video, be interested and click on it.
Speaker 6: So I feel like doing something like that is a
Speaker 6: good way to kind of get the word out there,
Speaker 6: or at least get the seed planting in people's mind
Speaker 6: without being so abrupt and having to do it in conversation.
Speaker 6: And also, I just I love to talk about and
Speaker 6: research all kinds of stuff like this, so it's it's
Speaker 6: just something that I've been wanting to do for a
Speaker 6: really long time. So I'm excited to finally be getting
Speaker 6: that out there.
Speaker 3: Now. Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 5: I hope everybody subscribes to his channel, and I look
Speaker 5: forward to your content. I've already subscribed to it, so hopefully.
Speaker 3: I'll get that. I appreciate that absolutely.
Speaker 5: I got the notification bell all charged up, so I'll
Speaker 5: be notified hopefully, you know, once you start dropping your
Speaker 5: YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: I really look forward to that.
Speaker 5: Was there anything else that you wanted to mention that
Speaker 5: we haven't touched on before we go?
Speaker 6: No, we pretty much touched on everything. I was excited
Speaker 6: to come on the podcast. I've been looking forward to
Speaker 6: having a conversation like this with somebody else that sees
Speaker 6: things like I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Likewise, I feel very spoiled and very privileged to be
Speaker 5: able to have this conversation every week with like minded people,
Speaker 5: and every episode that goes by. It should be more
Speaker 5: comforting to people to know that there are plenty of
Speaker 5: people out there who think the same way we do.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's definitely a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll give you the final word, my friends, to
Speaker 5: address the audience and promote your channel again.
Speaker 6: Oh well, thank you so much and thank you for
Speaker 6: having me on. The channel is going to be D's TV,
Speaker 6: and it's going to be focused around anything from conspiracies,
Speaker 6: biblical history, the cover ups, pretty much anything that would
Speaker 6: be talked about on this podcast we'll talk about on
Speaker 6: the channel. And that's all.
Speaker 5: I have great stuff. Your great guests brought a lot
Speaker 5: of knowledge on Thank you. Thank you you got people.
Speaker 5: Uh you know, I love having these type of conversations
Speaker 5: and willing to touch on every subject because the conspiracy is.
Speaker 3: Far and deep.
Speaker 5: So thanks again, God bless you and your family, my friend,
Speaker 5: and to the listeners, thank you so much for your
Speaker 5: continued support, and again God bless you.
Speaker 3: Keep your head on a swivel. And until we meet again,
Speaker 3: my friends, we will see you.
Speaker 9: I know it's been a struggle. I don't know if
Speaker 9: you've had. I'm gonna feel tired. Hell don't by all
Speaker 9: the way? Yeah, I know you feel more.
Speaker 10: You smile.
Speaker 1: Ain't the same. I saw you wall go from you
Speaker 1: feel like you've lost your way. Don't give up.
Speaker 7: No, don't give it and never this home. Don't let
Speaker 7: call the primise. It ain't done yet. He's got up plaid.
Speaker 7: Why it's away time got up? Many come?
Speaker 4: Why wait?
Speaker 1: God y called?
Speaker 9: I can see the straight beside you.
Speaker 1: Child's are putting up five.
Speaker 6: Oh, you're stronger than a thing. C Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 6: be all right.
Speaker 1: You're accepting a dead found.
Speaker 4: Beautiful.
Speaker 6: You're shoving ride.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're live and breathing. Move you can hold your
Speaker 11: head a pie. Don't give up. No, don't give in,
Speaker 11: never lose home. Don't let gone on the Primies.
Speaker 4: It ain't Donet's God, I'm letting wats away down, the
Speaker 4: God of Merica.
Speaker 1: Don't give up.
Speaker 6: No, don't give in.
Speaker 4: You never love home.
Speaker 6: Don't let go on the Primies.
Speaker 3: It ain't God of life.
Speaker 6: It's worth live, man.
Speaker 4: What's a way down the.
Speaker 1: Ways?
Speaker 4: A pray down the God? Oh yeah, what a bray
Speaker 4: down the God? Baby call, oh yeah, got TV call.
Speaker 1: Don't give up, No, don't give in. Never do they
Speaker 1: go off?
Speaker 10: The primis I mean and dumb yas got up playing
Speaker 10: watch dog kind of in Colts. Don't give no dog giving,
Speaker 10: never home. Don't they got the crimes?
Speaker 1: It ain't done. Others both living. What's a god of
Speaker 1: very coors ah, the god of needles? What's done?
Speaker 6: God of a.
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