Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray WBS he constant radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much as we move into our ten
Speaker 2: o'clock hour here on a Tuesday night. Folks have waited
Speaker 2: too long, so we're going to get to the calls
Speaker 2: as quickly as we can. Tom in West Virginia. Tom,
Speaker 2: I know you're a Trump guy, but I'll be very
Speaker 2: interested to see if you feel he is following a
Speaker 2: good political strategy here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually I do.
Speaker 4: He I mean constitutionally, no, he cannot order a private institution.
Speaker 4: You can't take in foreign students. Okay. However, what he
Speaker 4: is doing is he's shining a spotlight on Harvard University
Speaker 4: as well as the IVY League. I'm sure you know
Speaker 4: that countries like Saudi Arabia, Katar, United Arab Emirates, and
Speaker 4: other Arab ridge oil states in the last few years
Speaker 4: have donated eleven billion dollars to Ivy League schools.
Speaker 2: I would not dispute that figure.
Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, So here's the point. I'm old enough to
Speaker 4: remember if I go back to my twenties in the
Speaker 4: early nineteen eighties, Harvard's students would be holding protests in
Speaker 4: favor of Jews in this country. If there was some
Speaker 4: sort of the usual suspects of neo Nazis or Christian
Speaker 4: nationalists that despised Jews that they used to use the
Speaker 4: term zog Zionist to occupy government. Those college kids back
Speaker 4: to good guys, these college kids that now are nothing
Speaker 4: more than lem and you had a previous college. We
Speaker 4: have to fight basically a culture war. And that is
Speaker 4: what Trump is doing. And need I remind you Joe
Speaker 4: Biden was told in twenty twenty three that he cannot
Speaker 4: forgive student loans. What did Biden do at the end
Speaker 4: of his administration after the Supreme Court told his administration
Speaker 4: you can't do that. He forgave student loans.
Speaker 2: He tries through the He tried to forgive student loans
Speaker 2: in as many different ways as possible. There's no question
Speaker 2: about that. There's no question about that.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But he did it.
Speaker 3: But Dan, he did it after.
Speaker 4: The fact, near the end in January of his administry,
Speaker 4: I know the last Okay, So he defied a Supreme
Speaker 4: Court order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And here's well, what happens in those situations, okay,
Speaker 2: is someone someone looks at an order and they'll say, well,
Speaker 2: the court says you cannot do this. You cannot do
Speaker 2: a B and C. But but the court, even though
Speaker 2: you and I know the purpose of the order as layman, is,
Speaker 2: don't do it period. Some smart lawyer is going to
Speaker 2: look at it and say, but there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of an exception that we might drive a truck through. Okay.
Speaker 2: At the same time, he's doing that on his final
Speaker 2: few days in office, his election has lost, he has
Speaker 2: been removed as president, has lost the election. Okay. What
Speaker 2: Trump is doing now, in my opinion, is setting himself
Speaker 2: up so that he is his losses will continue. I
Speaker 2: think that there are issues. Good lawyers pick issues you
Speaker 2: can win, and I'm just what I don't understand is
Speaker 2: he's getting in a fight with Harvard. How do you
Speaker 2: what is more important to you? The success of this
Speaker 2: game of chicken with tariffs? What's more important that or
Speaker 2: whether or not Harvard accepts some foreign students?
Speaker 4: You what you had, Breck, The game of chicken of
Speaker 4: tariffs is much more important.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: And Trump is probably spending maybe ten ten minutes the
Speaker 4: day of dealing with this situation of Harvard with regards
Speaker 4: to the tariff. He's probably working on that majority of
Speaker 4: the time. And I'm thankful that he's doing this because
Speaker 4: we have been letting these foreign countries wen Europe. So
Speaker 4: let me ask you they're taken advantage of us.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, What is more important that
Speaker 2: somehow this Russian Ukraine bloodbath stops in terms of the
Speaker 2: United States's prestige or foreign students are prevented from attending Harvard?
Speaker 4: Of course, ending the war in Rain is much more important.
Speaker 2: Tom, Look, you're right, but what he's doing Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go through the list. All I'm just
Speaker 2: saying is that this is what we'll get the publicity.
Speaker 2: This is what will be on the front page and
Speaker 2: influence public opinion because all of these we're going to
Speaker 2: stop research? What what type of research? Cancer research? Oh,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's a winner politically, I mean, oh, Dan, you.
Speaker 4: Know you know, you know, you know that Harvard that
Speaker 4: when they receive federal money. Okay, does it necessarily go
Speaker 4: to what they say it's going to go to? Probably not.
Speaker 2: Where's the overtre But y are you asking a question?
Speaker 2: Are you making a state? If you're a megan a statement,
Speaker 2: I'll shut up. If you're really asking me a question.
Speaker 4: I'm that do we really know that when Harvard gets
Speaker 4: five hundred million dollars to do a research grant for
Speaker 4: uh cancer. All of that five hundred million goes exactly
Speaker 4: for that research. Yes, sir, I seriously doubt it.
Speaker 2: Well, don't don't. Don't doubt it, because when it's earmarked
Speaker 2: for something like cancer research, it goes to a to
Speaker 2: a hospital in Massachusetts, probably in Boston, that is associated
Speaker 2: with Harvard, that is doing cancer research. But we'll say that. Look,
Speaker 2: the bottom line is I think he's he's making huge
Speaker 2: mistakes politically here, and you disagree with me. So guess
Speaker 2: what six months from now, if we got to we'll
Speaker 2: continue this conversation periodically. And I think he could have
Speaker 2: taken that letter from Harvard, Tom and claimed victory. There's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with occasionally, if you have an argument with
Speaker 2: a friend, you know, take the victory and walk away.
Speaker 2: And even if you have an argument with someone you
Speaker 2: don't like, take the victory and walk away and fight
Speaker 2: again another day. In my opinion.
Speaker 4: All right, so in November, bring this topic back up,
Speaker 4: you bet, Pa.
Speaker 2: Well, in November, of course, the critical time. We'll bring
Speaker 2: it absolutely, Tom right back at you. We will bring
Speaker 2: it up many times between now and November. The critical
Speaker 2: will be November of twenty twenty six. Uh, that will
Speaker 2: be that will tell the tale, that will tell the tale.
Speaker 2: Hey buddy, we'll talk to him. Thank you, Tom, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Tom is a is a great called, challenging, opinionated exactly
Speaker 2: what we like.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: The only line that's open, Tom's line has just filled.
Speaker 2: The only line that's open is six one, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying this tonight. I hope you are as well,
Speaker 2: because we're talking political tactics. Uh, and we will at
Speaker 2: some point. I mean, if if Trump stays on this
Speaker 2: course and he has a smashing victory and picks up
Speaker 2: fifty seats in the House and five seats in the Senate,
Speaker 2: then he has been proven correct. Uh. You know, but
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen. We're back on Nightside,
Speaker 2: coming back on nightside right after.
Speaker 1: This night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you, Boston's news.
Speaker 2: Radio guys are going to ask everybody to tighten up
Speaker 2: a little bit here if you can. I I could
Speaker 2: easily say everybody gets three minutes. I don't want to
Speaker 2: do that, so let's try to let's try to keep
Speaker 2: it under five Okay, let's go to Lou Lou and
Speaker 2: Belmont next Lou.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Good evening, Dan, Dan. I'm going to
Speaker 6: tell you that I totally agree with what you said.
Speaker 6: A good president would be focusing on a lot more
Speaker 6: issues than Havid University. But what I think he's attempting
Speaker 6: to do is bring the best university in the country,
Speaker 6: perhaps the world, to its knees, so he can say
Speaker 6: to all of the other colleges and universities, you better
Speaker 6: fall into line. You're going to end up like COVID
Speaker 6: because he's a psychopath and he wants to control Congress,
Speaker 6: the courts, law firms, the media, and now what universities think,
Speaker 6: what their policies are.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you if you have described his motives accurately,
Speaker 2: and I hope you're wrong that he's doing failure because
Speaker 2: a president, as powerful as the office is, is not
Speaker 2: intended to do that. The president is supposed to set
Speaker 2: domestic policy and conduct foreign policy. And right now we
Speaker 2: have tariffs, we have the Middle East, we have what's
Speaker 2: going on between India and Pakistan break out into some
Speaker 2: form of exchange of nuclear weapons. I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff on his plate. And to focus on this.
Speaker 2: And again the letter that I did. You listen to
Speaker 2: some of the letter that I read last hour to
Speaker 2: his lawyers. There were concessions galorey made by Harvard that
Speaker 2: he could that he could refer to and say, look,
Speaker 2: this battle is won. I accept them. I accept the
Speaker 2: concessions they have made, and I appreciate those concessions. I'm
Speaker 2: going to monitor those concessions and six months or a
Speaker 2: year from now, we'll see how many of those promises
Speaker 2: have been kept. You know, I'm a promise has made,
Speaker 2: promises kept guy, not only for myself but for Harvard. Now.
Speaker 2: I think there were so many ways he could go
Speaker 2: and turn it into a political plus, both short term
Speaker 2: and long term, and he seems to not be interested
Speaker 2: in doing that.
Speaker 6: I think I think a logical person would do exactly
Speaker 6: what you're saying. Okay, I don't think he's getting the
Speaker 6: kind of advice he should be getting because he's surrounded
Speaker 6: himself with incompetent people that I'm thinking, like you or
Speaker 6: a good lawyer would, and he's behaving in this manner.
Speaker 6: Christy Nomes is homely Insecurity secretary came out and said
Speaker 6: we're going to go after you other universities if you
Speaker 6: don't fall into line. So I think that he has
Speaker 6: a master plan to now control colleges and universities and
Speaker 6: what they're thinking, what their policies are, without having either
Speaker 6: of the force are the knowledge to realize the damage
Speaker 6: he's doing to the country.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're wrong, but guess what. I think
Speaker 2: that eventually we will be able to look back at
Speaker 2: the comments you've made, the comments that Tom made, the
Speaker 2: comments that Ed from Worcester made, uh and and in
Speaker 2: the passage of time will say that you were right
Speaker 2: or wrong. Simple as that, simple as that. I just
Speaker 2: think that I have no idea who his and I
Speaker 2: don't think he's somebody who who who takes a lot
Speaker 2: of advice from advisors? Okay I don't. I get that,
Speaker 2: And a lot of it is his own gut instinct.
Speaker 2: But he is still surrounded by some people who have
Speaker 2: political experience. It's to me, it's mystifying. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that you take a win when you can, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, But who you might be the most accurate
Speaker 2: analyst tonight?
Speaker 6: Oh thanks, Dan, But I gotta tell you, I go
Speaker 6: way back. My wife and I used to sit at
Speaker 6: your booth at the front page many years ago in town.
Speaker 2: That was a great restaurant.
Speaker 6: Wasn't it that we watched you on television. We enjoyed
Speaker 6: your pieces on television.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, and I hope you enjoy the program
Speaker 2: night side. I really want to get as many different
Speaker 2: points of view, and I am on this one. I
Speaker 2: want every president to be successful. I wanted Joe Biden
Speaker 2: to have been successful. Do I think Joe Biden was
Speaker 2: competent in the last few years of his presidency. No,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, And I think that there were
Speaker 2: fundamental mistakes that were made, and I think Tump now
Speaker 2: is making more for other fundamental mistakes. So thanks so
Speaker 2: much for listening, and thanks so much for being us
Speaker 2: such a supporter of the program. Well, I hope you
Speaker 2: continue to call more often.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, thank you, Yeah, I always. I always tune
Speaker 6: you in. I like these segments where we talk about
Speaker 6: politics or the country. I find that fascinating.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, beg you, Lou, appreciate your time so much.
Speaker 2: We'll talk soon. Okay, good night, good night, Luke. Talk
Speaker 2: to you soon. They've got that call in in five.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Jim, Jim, you are next on Nightside.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Jim, and thanks for taking my lou ate
Speaker 7: into my three minutes. I'm kidding.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 7: Look, I've ever heard the phrase, if you're looking at
Speaker 7: the cards, you're missing the trick. That's the deal. If
Speaker 7: you're looking at the cards, you're missing the trick. And
Speaker 7: I'll give you two examples of it. First of all,
Speaker 7: just by boxing things up the way he has, he's
Speaker 7: already did come accomplish what he says he wanted to accomplish,
Speaker 7: which is people are not signing up to come to
Speaker 7: school here because they don't know for sure whether they'll
Speaker 7: be able to. And the other thing is this golden
Speaker 7: dome thing. The idea behind the golden dome never was
Speaker 7: to stop the bullets. The idea behind the golden domes,
Speaker 7: it's just make it infinitely less likely that a ballistic
Speaker 7: attack against the US will be effective than if they
Speaker 7: made it on Mexico or Canada.
Speaker 2: And then let's try to let's try to stay where
Speaker 2: we're talking tonight.
Speaker 5: We can as we are.
Speaker 7: We are where we're talking. I'm just telling you, if
Speaker 7: you're you're always trying to just look at the way things.
Speaker 7: It's not necessarily what it what it appears to be.
Speaker 7: It's it's if you're looking at the cards, you're missing
Speaker 7: the trick.
Speaker 2: All right, I got it. Okay, I got it. I
Speaker 2: got it. Thanks, Jim, appreciate it. That was quick. Let
Speaker 2: me go next to Ken in Waltham. Ken, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're looking at the cards missing the trick,
Speaker 2: but what's your thought.
Speaker 8: Well, let me acknowledge this is I heard this first
Speaker 8: from Jake Russian Cloth if I'm pronouncing his name.
Speaker 2: Right now, from the fourth Congressional District. Yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I want to give him credit, and I
Speaker 8: hope I don't misrepresent what he said, but it was.
Speaker 8: It was when Trump first started talking about pulling funding
Speaker 8: from Harvard, and what the congressman said was that he'd
Speaker 8: been working for with Harvard for quite a while and
Speaker 8: they've really changed. You know, he's a Harvard alum. He's
Speaker 8: also Jewish. They've changed a lot of their policies. He
Speaker 8: was very happy about that. What he and he said
Speaker 8: Harvard was happened actually, and he referred to it as
Speaker 8: kind of a win win for everybody. And his opinion
Speaker 8: was as far as the Trump mentality is that Trump
Speaker 8: doesn't see he sees everything as winners and losers and
Speaker 8: somebody just has to be a loser in his mind,
Speaker 8: and applying it to this case, I guess maybe he
Speaker 8: thinks and going back to was that who's the guy
Speaker 8: you talked to a lot from Harvard and he was
Speaker 8: talking about Trump? Harvey? Yes, you know, Harvey gave the
Speaker 8: kind of Trump's motivation, but I I potentially anyway, my
Speaker 8: thought about this is maybe Trump thinks Harvard hasn't lost
Speaker 8: enough and that's that's why he's not gonna stop and
Speaker 8: then and in his view it's it's not I'm not
Speaker 8: sure how much Trump cares about political capital as much
Speaker 8: as he cares about you know, maybe people he wants
Speaker 8: to hurt, or entities he wants to hurt.
Speaker 2: I guess that's one way of looking at looking at it.
Speaker 2: But his political capital, political capital is is a precious commodity,
Speaker 2: just like the money that you and I have in
Speaker 2: the bank. Now. If we decided to take all of
Speaker 2: our money and get on an airplane tomorrow and go
Speaker 2: to Vegas and bet it on a roulette wheel, and
Speaker 2: we're either going to win big or lose big. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's something that any of us would be
Speaker 2: swanted in doing. I mean, I just think this is
Speaker 2: that this is his legacy saying this is his legacy.
Speaker 2: Is he going to be a transformational president? Or is
Speaker 2: he going to be considered a guy who had two
Speaker 2: bites of the apple and missed both times. That's That's
Speaker 2: where I'm coming from.
Speaker 8: No, I, I this is where I think lou Actually,
Speaker 8: I think Loui's ideas might be better or more accurate,
Speaker 8: I'm sorry to say, than the ones I'm presenting. But
Speaker 8: you know, I think what lou was saying is Danny
Speaker 8: He's he doesn't think like you.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty obvious.
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank goodness, right, Yeah, I think Yeah, I guess
Speaker 8: what I'm saying is his his retribution kind of revenge
Speaker 8: emotion just may overwhelm his you know, desire to have
Speaker 8: you know, his political Yeah.
Speaker 2: If that's true, then then he will have an early
Speaker 2: come uppance in November of twenty twenty six. He will
Speaker 2: lose the House, he'll lose the Senate. Uh, and he
Speaker 2: will be a double lane duck president.
Speaker 8: I don't know if that this is correct, by the way,
Speaker 8: I I you know, I think a lot of this
Speaker 8: is beyond my capability to figure out how Trump things.
Speaker 8: But but I think that what you just said too
Speaker 8: is what's dangerous for like what Ed and Worcester said about,
Speaker 8: you know, the government take nationalizing these universities and things, because.
Speaker 2: The whole concept of nationalizing it's like, come on, I mean,
Speaker 2: but isn't there something in the back of isn't there
Speaker 2: something in the back of your head when you use
Speaker 2: that word like the National Socialist Party of Nazi Germany?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 8: Well, but but not only that. You know, the Democrats
Speaker 8: will be in control one day, and then if they
Speaker 8: have control of the of the university, is what's going
Speaker 8: to happen? You know? I mean, I don't think that's
Speaker 8: necessarily I do ad outcome either, but I think Ed
Speaker 8: would be upset about, no.
Speaker 2: Doubt, and I would be as well. Then I would
Speaker 2: be as well. Ken love your calls, man, I gotta
Speaker 2: let you run here. You got it in on the
Speaker 2: five as well. Thanks tuck soon, right, good night. Six
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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on YOUBS Boston's
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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here as we head towards
Speaker 2: the eleven o'clock hour. Next up is Jack Newton. Jack,
Speaker 2: you sent me an email today. I almost responded to it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're listening because I knew we were going
Speaker 2: to talk about this tonight. And I'm glad you called
Speaker 2: Garret ahead.
Speaker 5: Jack Porter. Yeah, I've been an affiliated with Harvard for
Speaker 5: like forty three years, going back to nineteen eighty two
Speaker 5: and this is the it's it's never been more united,
Speaker 5: you know, against the president tickets really wasting his time.
Speaker 5: He's not going to destroy Harvard and he's going to
Speaker 5: ruin Republican chances. Yeah, he should concentrate on the economy
Speaker 5: and getting the hostages back and the wars in Ukraine
Speaker 5: and Gaza. One thing he has done is he's reunited
Speaker 5: all the schools you know there was all and a
Speaker 5: lot of alumni like Bill Ackman, and has limited his
Speaker 5: criticism and President Summers, who was very critical of what
Speaker 5: President Kay and the others did. Everyone's very united on this,
Speaker 5: you know, in this fight against what.
Speaker 2: Okay, having seen that, why do you think Trump doesn't
Speaker 2: understand Harvard wrote this letter which I read last hour,
Speaker 2: and I hope you've seen it. You probably saw it
Speaker 2: before I did, uh, in which they made many concessions.
Speaker 2: They really did. They made many concessions. Uh, And and
Speaker 2: concessions in writing which he could have used. That's the
Speaker 2: point I was trying to make Jack, you know. And
Speaker 2: why would he not be smart enough to say, well,
Speaker 2: I got Harvard, We've won this, and we're gonna we're
Speaker 2: going to stay on top of it, and we're going
Speaker 2: to make sure that that they follow through on their promises.
Speaker 5: Well, I think one theory is I can't explain his
Speaker 5: mind totally. He really hate he hates Pemmy Pritzker and
Speaker 5: the family, and he's just a vendetta against her because
Speaker 5: they suit him and over some development in Chicago and
Speaker 5: they brought him out and he didn't pay his portion
Speaker 5: of it. There's a whole story, part of part of
Speaker 5: it could even be that, I mean, I'm not I
Speaker 5: wouldn't put it past them, you know, for to turn
Speaker 5: this into a personal thing, so that that could be
Speaker 5: one reason why he's going after Harvard. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I don't think anyone really understands
Speaker 5: why he's doing this. Uh well, you know the students,
Speaker 5: he thinks they're terrorism. Come on, this is craziness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I was appalled at what happened
Speaker 2: at Columbia. Uh, Columbia was far worse than than Harvard.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Bad stuff happened at Harvard. They were Jewish kids who
Speaker 2: were who were assaulted, they were Jewish kids who were impeded.
Speaker 2: All of that. And guess what Harvard has acknowledged that
Speaker 2: they've admitted it. It's like, take the victory and go home.
Speaker 2: Take the victory.
Speaker 5: Anybody who reads the task Force written by my friend
Speaker 5: Professor Pencler and others, it's an excellent set of recommendations.
Speaker 5: Antisumitism has come down after Semitic incidents have totally disappeared.
Speaker 5: Everything was going great until mister Trump starts to salvo
Speaker 5: against Harvard. Now he just reunited everybody you know against him,
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a marvelous talent. He has to coalesce
Speaker 2: his political appodents.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't. I don't take Creus. You know,
Speaker 5: he's he he can't run again. And the Republicans if
Speaker 5: they run a lot of them are going to lose
Speaker 5: in November. And what does he care?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, yeah, he may not lose, but his
Speaker 2: legacy will be in shambles. But whatever, I mean, that's fine.
Speaker 5: With the second term is it's horrible, it's horrible. Let
Speaker 5: them concentrate on stopping the war in Ukraine, in Israel,
Speaker 5: the hostages ISRAELI.
Speaker 2: I think I would be focused on Iran.
Speaker 5: What they're doing, Okay, running.
Speaker 2: Very close, they're getting very very close to having a bomb. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you know as well, as that those lunatics will
Speaker 2: take that bomb and throw it in on Israel tomorrow
Speaker 2: if they got it tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Right, you know, I'd have to ask the question. I
Speaker 5: don't know who asked it. Was it Bush or somebody?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: Do you feel safer now than you were four years ago? No?
Speaker 5: I do you feel economically better off now than you were?
Speaker 5: I mean he's just giving everything over to the Democrats only.
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, they need no I.
Speaker 2: Would say this. I would say this. The Ukraine War
Speaker 2: did not start on his watch. It started on on
Speaker 2: Biden's watch. Did not start on his wall.
Speaker 5: Even before Biden. It goes way back.
Speaker 2: Well I know that, but but but the troops were
Speaker 2: massed on the border and Biden said don't, don't, don't,
Speaker 2: don't invade, and Putin invaded. So I don't know. I look,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm going to look at this a little different
Speaker 2: historically than you. I'm not. I don't think Biden was
Speaker 2: was was a good president at all. And I think
Speaker 2: he was a disastrous president.
Speaker 5: Well he was. He was weak. But but President Trump
Speaker 5: can cannot stop puton either.
Speaker 8: What is he going to do?
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, we'll see. I think the jury is
Speaker 2: still out on that chat. Okay, let's talk to me
Speaker 2: about that three months from now, six months ago. Okay.
Speaker 2: And to say that Trump can't stop him, I think
Speaker 2: you could work some sort of a deal with Putin.
Speaker 2: With Putin, I mean, Putin's not gonna walk away and
Speaker 2: leave everything on the table. Uh. So there has to
Speaker 2: be some accommodation to end this. In my opinion, Jack,
Speaker 2: we've covered the waterfront. I gotta let you run.
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks man, all right, thank you, all rank you soon.
Speaker 2: All right, let me keep rolling here. Okay. Theodore in Baltimore, Theodore,
Speaker 2: and you're next on nightside, Theodore. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: right now, you got five minutes. Everybody's getting five to
Speaker 2: this hour. Go ahead.
Speaker 9: The word for Trump is an abomination. Now, I'm alf
Speaker 9: an American. So I'm an outliner, outliner on your station
Speaker 9: because you don't get many many people like myself calling.
Speaker 2: I think I get more calls than you want to acknowledge.
Speaker 9: To be really honest with you, Well, well maybe I'm
Speaker 9: wrong then, but you know I hate to use the
Speaker 9: word naive to You'll call us and to you, you're naive.
Speaker 9: You're not eve about what Donald Trump wants to do
Speaker 9: Project twenty twenty five. Their stated goal. It's a disrupt
Speaker 9: what they call the administrative state and basically take over
Speaker 9: everybody in the government who's ah uh uh who oversees
Speaker 9: uh these agencies, the uh inspected generals, he's fired them.
Speaker 9: Everybody who oversees voting, he's fired them. And in reference
Speaker 9: to people thinking like yourself, well it's just going to end,
Speaker 9: I no, No. He wanted to stop this war in
Speaker 9: Ukraine because he tried in part he's still trying to
Speaker 9: equal mister Obama. He wants a he wants the Peace
Speaker 9: Prize for his so called.
Speaker 2: Making hold on Theatre. Barack Obama was given a Peace Prize,
Speaker 2: was voted the Peace Prize before he became president. So
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can look at that award
Speaker 2: and say, oh, that was a deserved award. Number two,
Speaker 2: the the invasion of Crimea.
Speaker 9: Which happened on me AMA's watch, I understand.
Speaker 2: And what did we do about it? Nothing?
Speaker 9: Didn't do anything. Nothing, because well, once again, once again
Speaker 9: I just said he wants to get I didn't say
Speaker 9: the award was deserved. However you look at it, he
Speaker 9: wants to get one. He wants to get one because
Speaker 9: he hates people like me. Donald Trump is a racist,
Speaker 9: and he's proven it with all the things that he's
Speaker 9: done to me.
Speaker 2: Now, you, Theodore, tell me about all the black guys
Speaker 2: like you who voted in greater number for Donald Trump
Speaker 2: than any other Republican president since then, you know, probably
Speaker 2: since the turn of the century, well the center of
Speaker 2: the twentieth century.
Speaker 9: Miss Hurris got ninety five percent of the black vote.
Speaker 9: She got the overwhelming majority of black men the.
Speaker 5: Voting for her.
Speaker 9: You got a little, He had maybe five to mister Trump.
Speaker 2: Go check it out.
Speaker 9: I'm checking on amplictly, approximately ninety. No, miss Harrison, another thing,
Speaker 9: you get a number in our community we call in
Speaker 9: Theatore Weekend community.
Speaker 2: If you want. If she had gotten ninety five percent
Speaker 2: of the black foes, we would be calling her today,
Speaker 2: Madam President.
Speaker 9: No, sir, no, sir, what do you get the what
Speaker 9: poll are you citing there?
Speaker 5: For me?
Speaker 2: Theaterre you're you're convinced of that.
Speaker 9: I'm looking at a Quinney pac Poe. I'm looking at
Speaker 9: the ABC CNN poll.
Speaker 2: I will look at those tomorrow.
Speaker 10: He didn't get a few more.
Speaker 9: Fact, I'm gonna look at.
Speaker 2: I'm going to look at those polls. I'm going to
Speaker 2: look at those polls during this break, and we're going
Speaker 2: to go to break right now, and I will read
Speaker 2: you some of those polls when we get back on
Speaker 2: the other side.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all.
Speaker 2: Right, thanks, I appreciate your call. Good night, We'll be
Speaker 2: back right after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, Theodore, if you're still listening, please go to
Speaker 2: Navigator Research dot org post election survey amongst Black voters,
Speaker 2: Harris did not get ninety five percent, as I said.
Speaker 2: If she had, she would now be called Madam President.
Speaker 2: She got eighty one percent. Trump got fourteen percent of
Speaker 2: Black voters, and he did better amongst black men than
Speaker 2: he did amongst black women. So amongst black men, Trump
Speaker 2: got twenty four percent of Black men who voted for
Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty four. Now, again, you don't win elections.
Speaker 2: Black men were seventy one to twenty four. So every
Speaker 2: fourth black guy you see in Baltimore, he's racist. And
Speaker 2: by the way, black men under the age from the
Speaker 2: age of eighteen to fifty four voted for him twenty
Speaker 2: one percent. Twenty one percent Black men fifty five and over,
Speaker 2: older black men like yourself voted only three percent for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. They voted ninety three percent. So again, your
Speaker 2: figures are so far off. You know, Vice President Harris
Speaker 2: would have become would have become the next president of
Speaker 2: the United States. Okay, let's keep rolling here. I know
Speaker 2: it gets it gets controversial. I'm simply saying he's making
Speaker 2: a mistake. All of you want to say, it's just
Speaker 2: in his gut. That's fine. Next up, Bob is in Nevada, Bob,
Speaker 2: you are next on Nightsiger, right.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Yes, Dan, good evening. Formerly Bob from California.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome ear in another state. Yes, that's that's that's
Speaker 2: that's close.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Bob, Yeah, exactly. I agree with's what President
Speaker 3: Trump is doing. I do not think he's overreaching ninety
Speaker 3: five percent. I'm guessing of Americans get narrow benefit from
Speaker 3: these colleges. Okay, if they want to send their children,
Speaker 3: they pay, They pay to the nose. Yep. So I
Speaker 3: think you know, the bigger question is why are these
Speaker 3: colleges under a five h one seed nonprofit status. Solve
Speaker 3: the whole problem by letting them or making them pay
Speaker 3: taxes Okay, that's that's number one. Number two that Harvard
Speaker 3: talks about all this research. What research, okay, what research?
Speaker 2: Well, the research. There are a lot of hospitals that
Speaker 2: are associated with so called teaching universities such as Harvard,
Speaker 2: so that money does flow through Harvard to MGH and
Speaker 2: Harvard affiliated hospitals and by the way, to bok out.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. I think that for example,
Speaker 2: in Boston, you have all these colleges that take up
Speaker 2: all of this land space and all they do is
Speaker 2: they make a payment to the city of Boston, but
Speaker 2: they are on property which they have property taxes. Boston College,
Speaker 2: Boston University, Northeastern, Emerson, all of these great schools Suffolk.
Speaker 2: But it's never going to happen because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people who who would be apposed to that. I
Speaker 2: just think that's a political non starter for either party
Speaker 2: in my opinion. We'll disagree, we can we can agree
Speaker 2: to disagree on that.
Speaker 3: Well, I know, I think you might be right. It
Speaker 3: might be a non starter. Unfortunately, but you know, the
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical companies, okay, they get a lot of benefit. They
Speaker 3: get free research courtesy of the American tax payers. Okay,
Speaker 3: at Harvard and these other universe especially Harvard. Okay, the
Speaker 3: pharmaceutical companies says, you know, I'm making billions people pay
Speaker 3: through the nose for these prescription drugs. My point to
Speaker 3: that is you use there at national ice A while ago,
Speaker 3: I do believe we should naturalize the pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker 2: Well again, the problem, the problem with that language is
Speaker 2: that there's some bells in the back of my head
Speaker 2: when I hear people talking about national anything that makes
Speaker 2: me think of uh Germany National Socialist Party in Germany
Speaker 2: that nationalized industry, nationalized universities, nationalized everything by this little guy,
Speaker 2: this little pip squeak called Hitler. And I just don't
Speaker 2: think that's a great I think that's apathetical to what
Speaker 2: we're supposed.
Speaker 3: To be about, right right, But okay, maybe that's the
Speaker 3: wrong word. But the pharmaceutical like I said, this research
Speaker 3: is does it benefits interests like the pharmaceutical companies? Okay,
Speaker 3: it just.
Speaker 2: Which arguably, arguably, Bob, you know, arguably the argue. The
Speaker 2: argument is that when someone comes up with a miracle
Speaker 2: drug that does this or that, the people who are
Speaker 2: ultimately benefited are the people who can use that drug
Speaker 2: and extend their lives or make their lives more comfortable.
Speaker 3: That's the argument, right, right, But yeah, yeah, no again.
Speaker 3: But in terms of Harvard, make them pay taxes. End
Speaker 3: of the story, you were.
Speaker 2: You are, you were, you were. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: convince you on that, So I'm gonna I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: you runk. I'm going to try to get a couple
Speaker 2: more in. Okay, thanks man, love you call Love. Thanks tonight.
Speaker 2: Margie and Plymouth. Margie's gonna get you in here, but
Speaker 2: you gotta be quick for me. Go ahead, Margie.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree with the last caller. I am getting
Speaker 11: really sick. I paid my way through our PI.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a tough school.
Speaker 11: By the way, my bunnet to go and pay off
Speaker 11: my last little bit of money, working ninety eight hours
Speaker 11: a week between Boston, Bedford and Chelmsford and all these
Speaker 11: people that think that they deserve No, we can do
Speaker 11: a lot better with them with our money and to
Speaker 11: take care of our people from the United States by
Speaker 11: using by cutting a lot of stuff. And I do
Speaker 11: agree with what he's doing cutting. I've worked for the government.
Speaker 5: I was in the.
Speaker 11: Military, I was in several civilian and they where's the
Speaker 11: whole hell of a lot of money, and if he
Speaker 11: can go and cut it and go and get money
Speaker 11: to where it's needed as compared to just going and
Speaker 11: puffing up a budget, I am all for.
Speaker 2: It, all right, Margie, I got you in and you
Speaker 2: said it, well, thank you, thank you very much. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you and calm night, thank good night. All
Speaker 2: I got John, you're going to be the last caller.
Speaker 2: I only got a couple before you go for it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to interrupt.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, John, Sure, just a couple, just a couple
Speaker 10: questions here that are on the top of my mind.
Speaker 10: I mean, number one is a convicted fella in office.
Speaker 10: It's his obsession with Harbor, taking down Harvard and distract
Speaker 10: him from the important social media tasks, maintaining his feud
Speaker 10: with Bruce Springsteen and Taylor Swift, and also his social
Speaker 10: media duties is do his duties such as yesterday, like
Speaker 10: wishing all Americans a happy Memorial Day, you know, including
Speaker 10: the scum as he put it, the radical left scum
Speaker 10: and the corrupt lunatic judges. And then also the second
Speaker 10: point is well his obvious heartfelt ah zeala stance against
Speaker 10: anti Semitism. Well, it caused him to do the unthinkable
Speaker 10: and return the big, beautiful bowen jumbo jet that Qatar,
Speaker 10: the former sponsor of hamas Uh was was so gracious
Speaker 10: as to give. I mean, I mean the American people
Speaker 10: as a free and clear gift, no strings attached, no
Speaker 10: favors expected.
Speaker 2: Yeah again, you know, the questions you ask are rhetorical questions.
Speaker 2: I think the last one is a little ridiculous. I
Speaker 2: felt it was a mistake for him to accept that gift,
Speaker 2: whether it's to the Defense Department or to himself. At
Speaker 2: the same time, the argument, which I do at least understand,
Speaker 2: is that he is trying to bring some of those
Speaker 2: smaller Arab nations into line with the Abraham Accords, which
Speaker 2: are a much more important resolution to benefit peace in
Speaker 2: the Middle least as well as Israel, if he's ever
Speaker 2: able to pull that off, which I have no idea
Speaker 2: if he will, John, I owe you time next time.
Speaker 2: But you know you can read the clock as well
Speaker 2: as I can. Thank you for the rhetorical questions, and
Speaker 2: I thank you it's always for listening and calling.
Speaker 3: Have a good one, got a good night, Good.
Speaker 2: Night, to the callers in the line. Sorry, I have
Speaker 2: a guest coming up after eleven, if you'd like to
Speaker 2: stay there. We're going to talk about empathy to concept
Speaker 2: probably you've never heard of, but I think you're going
Speaker 2: to understand it, and I think you might enjoy the
Speaker 2: conversation coming up on the other side of the eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock news. Stay with us, everybody,