Speaker 1: Indeed off of a weekend that it did not take
Virgil Ortees very long to.
Speaker 2: Dispatch ericson Lubin.
Speaker 1: We are ready to recap that fight and look ahead
to what's the future now that Ortiz has gotten that
devastating TKO.
Speaker 2: We'll go over the undercard.
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got an interesting convo with Big Dan Rayfield
and a guy who's challenging for the vacant WBO lightweight
title coming up on that big card in Saudi Arabia.
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with you off the weekend. And again, I think all
of this preamble was maybe longer than what Orties took
to dispatch Eric Sin Lugans Lubin. So the first thing is.
Speaker 2: Good to be with you.
Speaker 1: And how shocked were you that this is over that
quickly against the veteran and former world title challenging.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's a thing, t J. I'm not
surprised in any way, shape or form that Virgil Artis
Scortay knockout against eric Son Lubin. That was what I
thought would happen. I thought he would stop him, but
I did think that it would be a bit more competitive.
I thought it would go perhaps into the second half
of the fight before he got him out of there.
And so from the dispatch him, that's a great word,
dispatch him in the second round. That was pretty impressive.
I mean, I know there's some people I've been reading
with social media posts and people responding to my article
about the fight and this and that, who are Monday
Morning quarterbacking as usual saying Wow, Lubin was shot. Lubin
was not mutched. Blah blah blah. All I know is
this Ericson Lubin is and has been for a long
time a very quality contender. And even if you take
a look at the knockout losses and his only other
losses he suffered, they were by a devastating first round
knockout in the fight that we've discussed before against Charlot
when he challenged for the title. It is the belief
I think of most people that he was rushed into
that fight as a very young fighter, like twenty one
years old or something like that, not ready for the fight,
twenty two years old, not ready for the fight. I
don't mean physically ready, but just mentally ready to deal
with the even experience enough.
Speaker 2: And it got caught, got dropped, gone done right.
Speaker 3: And then he bounced back with a series of solid
wins and went on a nice little winning street there
and then he had the next fight where he lost.
That was for an interim title, vacant interim title against
Sebastian Fandora was one of the fights of the year
in I believe it was in twenty twenty two. They
put on tremendous battle as you mentioned there, and you
know in the end he took. He took a little
bit of a beating, but Fondora was not exactly off
the hook either. Both of those guys got knocked down,
and in the end, Ericson Lubin's trainer at the time,
which was Kevin Cunningham, a tremendous trainer, pulled the plug
and said he'd have enough. He'd have had enough, and
so they stopped it in that manner, and then again
he went on a nice little winning streak. He has
a good bunch of wins of consequence on his record,
and uh yeah, of course he was the underdog against
Virgil Ortiz, but I don't think most people thought he
was going to just get nuked out of there in
two rounds like that. That was You have to give
Virgil Ortiz some credit for the way he just took
care of business. Whatever you think about Ericson Lubin now
at thirty years old, having suffered a bad knockout like that,
and even when he's won recent fights like he did
stop for example rdre Al Holmes and the title eliminator
that he had in his most recent fight in the
eleventh round, it wasn't like he looked lights out in
that fight he did get to stop.
Speaker 4: But he did win obviously.
Speaker 3: And you go back before that, he had the decision
victory against against Ramos. That was a fight where myself
and many others felt that Hazers Romans was the right thing, right,
but again Virgil did what he what he was supposed
to do against a quality fighter. And those who are comparing,
because we're going to get the whole boots Ennis aspect
of this thing, comparing what he did against you know,
supposedly and nobody in Lubin and then what Ennis had
done against Lima. I will tell you that that Erics
and Lubanon, you know, on an off night, probably takes
care Alema with no problem. I mean, you know, there's
a there's a difference in the caliber of opponents. And
keeping in mind also that this was now the third
consecutive reputable quality can tender opponent in a row that
Virgil Ortiz has defeated. He had the tremendous fight of
the ear slug fest that he survived two knockdowns and
one close against boat Chuk. He came back. He scored
a clear decision against Israel Majimov, who gave Terrence Crawford
the best fight of his career, and then he comes
off of that fight and he apps so he destroys
Lubin in two rounds. You can certainly make the argument
that he's number one in the one foes even without
having a major title, even though he defended the interim
WBC belt in this fight.
Speaker 1: One thing here, because we talked about this with the
Worldly Fight a couple of weeks ago with Joseph Parker
about what's a good stoppage? You know, too soon, you
know too late, just right, et cetera. What did you
feel like here when we're early in the fight and
in in defense of Lubin, he had his guard upsal,
he was not firing back.
Speaker 2: There's not a knockdown.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that Ortiz wasn't going to
wipe him out in another ten seconds with a serious
shot he may have. What about that argument that maybe
it was a tad too soon on the range of
acceptable stoppages.
Speaker 3: What was just one hundred percent? Would say that the
stoppage is right on the money. That was a perfect
stoppage by the referee James Green, And I say that
because eric so Lubin was standing up unconscious. How do
you not stop the fight. He had taken some tremendous
bombs on the chin. He got whacked with a whole
bunch of punches, right hands and left hooks, and they
weren't just like you know, touching him. Virgil was turning
those shots over with deep leverage on the especially on
the on the last couple of right hands.
Speaker 4: Full force.
Speaker 3: I mean, not not grazing shots, or maybe he's rolling
with the shot like you know, if you take a
look at the Parker fight, But.
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying. He still got he
was rolling with those shots right, but he still got
his guard up there towards the agent.
Speaker 2: He's unconscious standing up.
Speaker 1: Listen, if he's unconscious standing up, he doesn't have his
guard up. He does have his guard up, and he
did take two. He took a couple of serious shots
even while he had the guard up. I'm not saying
it was a bad stoppage or wrong. So I just
point I just pointed it out, and it's over quick.
Speaker 3: There's nobody that I've seen in any capacity on social media,
people who I've texted with in the business who have
dogs in the fight on both sides. Comments on my
uh that that people you know posting on my social
media about you know, reading my article. This is one
of those times where there's no disagreement about this. Now,
he says, it's not a Joseph Parker situation. This was
a man who was you know that James Green saved
him perhaps from.
Speaker 4: A trip to the hospital.
Speaker 1: By all right, So Boots, Ennis was there and are
we getting this next?
Speaker 2: Can we have good things?
Speaker 1: What do we think now that now that this has happened,
he theorized it he bombed him out.
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn says, this is who we want. What do
you think?
Speaker 3: Well, Boots and Eddie did make the trip to the fight.
They were ringside for the fight. He was allowed and
invited into the ring after the fight Ennis, and in
his interview with Chris Mannix on his own he was
before he could even before Chris could even ask him
about Ennis, which is obviously the fight that everybody would
like to see.
Speaker 4: Next.
Speaker 3: It was Virgil Ortiz who saw him standing in the
ring a few feet away from and said, Boots, come
on over, you know. And so at that point Mannix
is like, Okay, well, I guess the answer to the
question is this is who you want next?
Speaker 1: And Virgil classic if you just said are we finding
one hundred and fifty four pounds or not? Or you
got another excuse like Antonio Tarbor my man Tarbar time
he got any other chooses? Royd and I, well, the
one thing we find in one fifty four? Are we
not fighting one fifty four? Let's sign I would have
loved that last time.
Speaker 3: That's the one thing that whatever issues there may be
to finalize the match. The weight probably won't be one
of those questions that's even up for debate because they
both have interim titles at one hundred and fifty four.
Virgil's now been there for a couple of years. Boots
made the very publicized move up to the weight class
in his last fight, you know, a month or so ago,
and scored that first round knockout. So weight's not an issue.
The question is are they gonna play games? Are they
gonna posturing? Is one thing, but teasing and playing games
and moving something and doing something else, that's what's gonna
irritate a lot of people. So I think that it
will happen, but I'm not convinced that's gonna happen. And
they say that for a few reasons. Number one, I
do think finally match Room and NS are quite serious
that they want that next, especially with the shit they've
been talking the last you know, few days about it.
I don't think they make the trip to Texas just
to go to have fun if they're not serious about
the fight, that's the first thing. And Boots, you know,
love the decision he made to blow off when they
had a deal back that should have been earlier this
year because he elected to take the defense. You know,
he took the unification fight against Danie Otis and then
took the fifty four pounds like let's get to know
the weight class fight against Lima that was so criticized.
At this point, I think he's like, in his own mind,
he's right, I'm ready to do anything against anybody in
this weight class. And I do believe that that's the
fight that Eddie Heron would like to make. I think
he truly believes that his fighter would win the fight.
And anytime you're making a matchup, you know, if you
truly believe their guy wins and there's that much money
that's going to be at stake, of course you do
the fight. Now that's their side. Now, if you listen
to what Mattroom that Eddie said and what said, we've
discussed this before their side with each other. Because people
have to remember, when you make a fight, there's not
just one contract. The two promoters have to agree. They
got to get their word, they get everything squared away
with their broadcaster, and the fighters have to make deals
with their promoters. So there's a bunch of separate agreements.
Mattroom and Eddie reiterated, and Boots said, yes, not his
head that when they did their new contract for the promotion,
that they signed a document that was the terms for
this fight. So the way that they positioned it that
you know, Eddie and Boots is that on our side,
we're done. Eddie basically said, we're done, only waiting for
Golden Boy to get done with its part. And also
it's at a level of a pay per view where
Golden Boy and Matchroom don't necessarily have to make a
deal with each other. They can go and each one
of them make a separate deal with his own. Now
they'll have to be certain things they'll have to agree on,
Like we're doing a pay per view, you know, you
get an under card fight, we get an undercard fight,
and maybe we do an undercard fight between our guys
or whatever. They're gonna have to divvy up, you know,
what's on the card, because I would think it's gonna
be a co promotion. They're they're and they're also gonna
obviously probably posture about who's the quote unquote a side,
which to me is nonsense because the reality is both
of them are in essence a side.
Speaker 4: Ish.
Speaker 3: They both have drawn good crowds at fights, they both
have elements of a title, they're both undefeated, they're both
part of the zone. Like there's nothing that truly distinguishes
one guy as the age.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've given us a bunch on the match
room in a sign, but I detect because I've been
doing this long enough with you skepticism that on the
Dala Hoya, Golden Boy or Tees side there may be
or Tees there may be a door number two.
Speaker 3: So that's the issue. So Virgil himself is like, in
the ring, I'll fight the guy.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: If you watch some of the videos of the of
the press converceas or the scrums afterwards, and he's asked,
he makes the point that his dream fight is Errol
Spence at Cowboys Stadium. They're both Dallas area fight. They're
now in the same way class. Uh, you know, because
if Spence does fight again, he would move up from
Welter Way where he got beaten by Terrence Crawford. You know,
I don't think that if he fought Errol Spent at
this stage of Errol's career, he would get a lot
of credit for beating him because most people view Arrows
kind of washed and he hasn't fought for what's going on?
Speaker 2: Can I tell you that's exactly it?
Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's You often talk about
the commercial viability. There is no commercial viability on an
Ortiz Spence fight on pay per view zero nine and
certainly has done nothing for two and a half years
after Crawford destroyed him.
Speaker 3: So then you can put the fight at Cowboys Stadium.
I mean, I've covered mega fighter at Cowboys team that's
I mean. It will draw some people fair enough because
they're local, but you might you.
Speaker 2: Might draw like eight thousand people, you might draw like sis.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot overstate he has disappeared after Crawford
destroyed him, and I don't know that there's anything there.
Even if Spence was in the I saw him in
the locker room. He was there five and high five
and Ortiz after the words and whatever.
Speaker 3: But the reason why I have my my issues about
whether it actually will happen or not, there's one way
that he can get nipped in the butt is if
Boots and us, assuming he was serious, he signed so
they're done, and if Virgil Ortiz ghost his people, meaning
Golden Boy, Oscar his manager Rick Marigian and says, listen,
don't come to me about another fight. Make the deal.
You know, here's what I need. Get the best deal possible.
I want this fight next, and go do it. And
that's what fighters can do because they're the ones that
have to get into the ring, and you know, their
their health and their careers, et cetera. Now Oscar was
posturing and talking about how you know it's got to
be he's the A side, and I hate when that
shit happens because it's really in this This is really
the epitome of a fight where there's no true A side.
They're both A sides. And you've got Rick Marigian, who
I have ample respect for. I've known Rick his entire
career as a boxing manager, starting out years ago as
the manager for Jose Ramier. When he signed him at
the Olympics. He made a post on his social media
and then I texted a little bit with them earlier,
and he wrote, I think that Ortiz spens a Cowboys stadium,
biggest All Texas matchup in history, and Charlote versus Boots
as the Comaine and the winners fight each other just
might be fire whatever. And Charlo is at the fight.
I mean, so I'll disagree with Rick. I mean, when
you know, Eddie even used the words and I don't
often agree with that Hearon, but I'll agree with him
on this one. He basically said, we don't want to
marinate this. Let's do the fight next right, And the
two fighters have been talking about it, so that's all
there is to it. Lubin is out of the way,
a Lima is out of the way. They're both the
top among the top couple guys in the way, class
two three guys in the division. There's been a movement
the fans want to see it. I had a lot
of people more than I've seen in a while, about
a potential match. More are genuinely excited about this fight.
A fight, there's a deep division where I've seen a
ton of people like I'll look on my Twitter feed
TJ and one person will say, oh, you know, Boot's
gonna knock him out, and the next tweet is like, oh,
Virgil's gonna destroy him. Like there's a true back and
forth about who you think is going to win the fight,
and and that makes a really good matchup. It's you know,
in boxing, you make a mixed match an American Hispanic
against an American Black. That adds to it because he
step fan basis. One guys from deep in the heart
of Texas. One guy's from Philadelphia. So you've got different.
Speaker 2: Regions all but can punch.
Speaker 4: Both are now.
Speaker 3: In genuinely in the same way class as you said,
both are good punchers. They're not old and washed. Boots
Ennis is twenty eight years old in his prime. Virgil
Ortiz is twenty seven years old in his prime.
Speaker 4: Like let's do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And as I made point, the point A,
they're gonna make a lot of money for the fight,
and b whoever loses the fight in their career is
not over. Guys lose I mean that's what happens when
you get to this level. So you know they're to
be great. You're gonna make millions of dollars regardless of
the outcome of the fight. You know, if you can't
agree on how to split up the money. I've always
maintained I'm not just saying it for this fight. It's
prize fighting. You make it where it's like, you know,
whatever you want to do, you do forty five percent,
forty five percent, and the winner gets the extra you know,
of the the remaining percentagere something like that, and it's fair.
They're good crowd. There's a lot of places you can
put the fight. And I just don't want to hear
any more nonsense from anybody in the executive suite of
this fight. I don't want to hear from the managers
promoting other fights. I don't want to hear anything from
Oscar or Eddie, because Eddie, even though he said we're done,
we have options, and he mentioned Charlot and he mentioned
Danny Garcia.
Speaker 4: You know what that, Yeah, Garcia.
Speaker 3: You make Virgil RTIs against Boots Ennis and let's have
one of the biggest fights in American boxing in a while.
And it'll be in the same time frame. We're gonna
get your Corse Stevenson against Tiafimo Lopez probably in the
early part of the year in January, to another great
all American kind of fight. Let's do this shit and
stop fucking around, man.
Speaker 2: I'm with him, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go over the undercard, which look it
says right on my rundown. We can briefly talk about
what turned out to be a terrible undercard. Darius Fulgum
did have a draw, and then I know Joshua Edwards
the heavyweight was victorious.
Speaker 2: What else on this undercard? Nothing? Nothing of h too much.
It was disappointed, not noteworthy, right, I.
Speaker 3: Actually thought going into the fight, And you know, I
don't even blame like Golden Boy because you make the match.
There's always multiple ways to assess a fight, how it
looks on paper, on what actually happens.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Number one, the original co feature, which was your boy
Floyd's goofield against Jojo Diaz, got canceled because of the injury.
Well was it not a very good fight to begin with?
But fulgam and Stevens I thought would be like decent TJ.
This turned out to be like absolute fucking horrible, terrible, terrible,
boring fight. You know, even the commentators after about like
the fourth or fifth round were talking about how it's
so bad, like, you know, it could go either way,
it's probably gonna be a draw. And in the end
it actually did turn out to be a draw. And
let's just all you know, do like the hula dance
and the rain dance and the prayer dance to make
sure they don't have a rematch. It was that bad,
so that that was very unfortunate, just a garbage fucking
fight whatever. Amari Jones, who is the middleweight that has
long been associated with Devin Hainey, who has recently signed
with Golden Boy, had his first fight with Golden Boy.
He looked pretty good against a fairly nondescript opponent name
Shady Ghuer, who was basically the big thing about him
was Roy Jones as his trainer. But Ami Jones looked
really good in that fight. He stopped him in the
third round. Joshua Edwards, who was the American heavyweight in
the Paris Olympics, making his way as a young, a
young prospect. He did score a stoppage. It was kind
of a weird stoppage. Not a particularly scintillating fight, but
he got the job done and the disappointing. Another fight
that was disappointing was he had Robin so Far, the
undefeated cruiserweight who had pummeled on Sergey Sergei Kovalev. This
was his I think this was his first fight since
signed with Golden Boy. Also maybe it was his second fight.
He took on the undefeated Derek Miller, and while he
won handily, he should have had him out of it.
Speaker 4: He won a decision.
Speaker 3: There was no reason why he didn't step on the
gas a little bit more and get the guy out
of there in about four rounds instead of went ten
rounds because he was pummeling the shit out of him,
but he never really threw that extra punch to make
sure that the end of the fight. So all in all,
if you tuned in just for the main event, you
didn't anything.
Speaker 1: All right, one and we're going to get to Abdulla
Mason here in just a second. One other fight of
note a Friday night pro box fight with Welterway Tiger Johnson,
the former US Olympian in twenty twenty. He got a
main event win here in Florida a little bit on
that please in the recap mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's with Top Rank And as you know
and everybody that follows this know, is that in the
time where they don't have a broadcast deal, they have
been making deals to have their fighters fight on other
promoters cards. They've done it with most recently Tiger Johnson
on Friday Night. They did the previous week with Mikhaela
Mayer fighting in Montreal on a I of the Tiger card,
and so they've been, you know, doing that to keep
their guys busy. But they took a little bit of
a gamble with Tiger Johnson against Nicholas Flass, a Puerto
Rican fighter who was with Probox, who was fifteen and
two with ten knockouts going into the fight, had looked
pretty good, had been, you know, getting a lot of
activity on these Pro Box events, and Probox does a
very good job of putting on competitive fights. You know,
in my mind that that the Probox series is kind of,
in large measure sort of replaced what the old Friday
Night Fights was on ESPN two, where you see a
lot of good matchups, even if not big names with
the occasional eliminator title fight once in a blue moon,
But anyway, this was a nice fight. I was like, Okay,
let's see what Tiger can do. I thought this was
absolutely his biggest test. He didn't just pass the test,
DJ he literally just he just outclass flaws. Like when
people talk about there are levels in boxing, you know,
you could show them this fight and explain to them
what that means, because this is a good amateur that
was on our Olympic team for the United States in
twenty twenty. And it feels to me like, and I've
said this before, I've watched virtually all of Tiger Johnson's fights.
He's now seventeen, you o. He was on every one
of those fights, was on you know, ESPN Plus, Undercard,
Preliminary Action, et cetera. I felt like he was good,
but he just he always left me wanting more, Like
he just never showed me that like that he can.
He's in neutral, Like he didn't go to the next.
Speaker 1: The next step to be a world class fighter. You
haven't seen that next step.
Speaker 3: When I watched this fight against Flas, who was not
a you know, an unreputable opponent. He was a pretty
decent opponent. I feel like I'm watching the fight and
it was like something I feel like clicked in Tiger Johnson.
That like like a light went off, or like he
just something clicked and he's now more dynamic or whatever.
I mean, maybe the opponent has something to do with
that too. I mean, that's certainly a possibility. But he
looked really, really good in this fight. He stopped Flaws
in the fourth round. He could not miss with his
right hand. His jab was very strong, and he basically
did what he wanted and he scored a knockdown, and
then he heavy knockdown in the final seconds of the
third round, and then you know, the Flaws got up
but there the time right now, so he couldn't throw
another punch, so the round ended. He went and had
his rest period, and then in the fourth round he
hit him with a monstrous right hand, hit him with
another right hand. It was sort of window dressing, and
he was already fallen on the mat. And when he
got off to Flaws, his credit, he showed a lot
of balls and hard. He got up to his feet.
He did beat the count, but he was all over
the place. He like wobbled into the back, you know,
to the post and the referee had no choice stop
to fight right at the end of that round. It's
like literally the time the official time was three minutes
of the fourth round. But that was a big win
for Tiger Johnson. That was the best win of his career.
Like I can now see him competing against like solid
quality guys at one hundred and forty pounds as he
and again he's only seventeen to oh so it's just
like the learning curve is still going on. But that
to me was a big win for him and made
me more of a believer. And congratulations to him. It
was a fun fight to watch and he did a
hell of a job to get to win.
Speaker 2: All right, Recap mode fulfilled.
Speaker 1: Let's talk in the preview mode now about November twenty
second and Abdullah Mason, another top ranked fighter, will fight
for the vacant WBO lightweight title with England Sam Noakes.
You do not have to wait to get any more
build up on this fight. You're gonna get it right here,
right now from Big Dan.
Speaker 3: Well, it's my great pleasure to be joined on our
podcast this week by no other than the lightweight contender,
Abdullah Mason. Abdullah I will let it everybody know what
you have coming up. You're going to be challenging for
the vacant WBO lightweight title, taking on fellow undefeated Sam Noakes.
It'll take place November twenty second on the Ring Magazine
pay per view that Turkey al Chik is putting on
in read Saudi Arabia, and I wanted to start off
by saying, first of all, welcome. I'm very much looking
forward to this event. I think your fight is it's
a deep card, but this is this is a really
interesting matchup on that show was four years ago, almost
to the day that we're doing this interview. You were
seventeen years old when you turned professional. You were boxing
on an undercard on a terrific fight between MICHAELA. Mayer
and Maivahamadus to unify two of the titles in one
hundred and thirty pound division for the women. I was
ringside for that fight in Las Vegas. I had been
hearing about you before your professional debut. I've been knowing
Brad Goodman from Top Rank for like thirty years and
telling me to take a look at this kid. He's
going to be something else. He scored a second round knockout,
you look really good, and four years later, here you
are right on the verge of fighting for our world title.
So I wonder if you could just, like briefly you
just sort of sum up that journey from pro debut
on a deep you know, deep on an undercard now
going off to Saudi Arabia fight for a world championship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a It was definitely That's something I've
been thinking about too. You know how what four years
ago you said that was almost like to this exact
date where I first turned pro, and right now, I
would say it kind of feels the same way in
a sense, you know, competing going overseas, competing for this
world championship, you know, going from those amateurs to that
pro debut, it was like a different experience, and going
from where I'm at now to this world championship, it
kind of feels the same way in a sense. That's
what I mean, Like, it's gonna be different experience for
me fighting overseas. You know, my first twelve rounder, a
different crowd. So my main thing is just keeping the
same focus through you know, the differences, and making sure
I'm doing the same thing when it comes to my performance.
Speaker 3: So as a young prospect, you got a lot of buzz,
A lot of people picked here as the prospect of
the year over the last couple of years. And like
you said, now here, you are getting ready to fight
for world titles. So you've got nineteen fights, nineteen wins,
seventeen knockouts. How do you feel as though you've been
brought along and prepared for this moment?
Speaker 5: Oh? I feel like I've been prepared perfectly. You know,
I've been with a great team, you know, j Prince
Management Top Rank Boxing, and my team, my trainers, my father,
my head trainer, and my brothers as well. You know, everybody.
Every fight that I go through, they've been pushing me
to be better or you know, tweet this, tweak that,
and every fight I've you know, been through, its getting
better and better and better. So with each opponent they've
put in front of me, I end up doing the
same thing, you know, or better, you know, even though
the opponents are getting better and better. So Sam Noaks
is the best opponent to date. You know, he'll be
the best opposition for me, and I feel like this
performance will be even better.
Speaker 3: So when you had the fight with Johan Vasquez in
November of twenty twenty four. You scored a second round
knockout against him, but before he knocked him out, obviously,
you know, the the headline, I guess was that he
knocked you down two times in the first round. And
after that fight there was a lot of people that
had sort of hyped you up there We're like, well,
maybe we're not so sure about this guy. He got
dropped twice and there was some criticism. I sort of
looked at it the other way. I've seen a lot
of you know, guys get dropped and come back, you know,
with a raging theory and go on to greatness.
Speaker 4: Not that big of a deal. It's boxing.
Speaker 3: You get hit, So I sort of looked at it
from the other perspective, like, hey, you know, we've seen
the young man deal with adversity and he came through
it like the champ and you know, ended up getting
the knockout. I wonder what was that experience like for
you and maybe dealing with some of the criticism that
came along with that, especially as a very young fighter.
Speaker 5: I think, well, the experience for me, it was a
I would say overall, it was an amazing experience. And
at the time it was shocking. But for myself and
for those who know Box and I feel like we
all saw it the way you've seen it as it
was a great thing to happen as far as you know,
going through the adversity and coming out the way that
it did. It shows a lot of growth, a lot
of goodness and just the way we prepare or you know,
just where I'm at in my career, and uh, there's
always going to be critics, so there's not too much
to you know, to pay attention to on that side,
so you've got to I just got to make sure
I'm doing what I'm doing no matter what, you know,
keep growing or you know, learning from that. But it
was definitely a great, great learning experience and uh, like
I say, it was a turning point for the better.
Speaker 3: So you have won three fights in up since then,
so obviously it's not been any you know, impact certainly,
and you're still n defeated in fighting for the title.
As I mentioned, uh before this fight with No because
I guess your biggest fight, your biggest name, your biggest
win must have been I think anyway, your fifth round
knockout of the very battle tested Uh, you know contender
Jeremiah Nakatilla back uh, you know, two fights ago, and
he was a guy that had fought you know, some
quality fighters. He had lost to them fair enough, but
they were guys that that boxing fans know, of course, Stevenson,
Miguel burt Chelt, you know people along those lines, Raymond Maritaya,
even the prospect Tito Mercado. So what do you think
that win did for you in terms of your thoughts about, Hey,
you know what I can compete with these experienced veterans
whose only losses have come against guys that have gone
on to you know, become champions or you know, people
that boxing fans know, or even like Mercado, top prospect
like yourself.
Speaker 5: One thing about me is anytime I kind of get
in a ring with somebody with more experience or you know,
even in the past before I turned pro sparring with
like world champions. Every every time I step in the
ring with someone like that, it's more of a solidification
of what I have. You know, in my mind, I'd
be like, Okay, it shows me what I have. Okay,
I'm good at this, I'm good at that, or I'm
at this level or Okay, that was kind of easier.
I could step it up a little more or whatever
the case may be. Oh I got to work a
little harder. But it's usually silification, letting myself know, you know,
and letting my team know that what we have is
is something good and there's something that we're definitely grateful
for it, but it's something that we've been working on
the right things.
Speaker 3: I understand that that fight I mentioned against Nakatiya, originally
that was going to be the co feature. The main
event that night was te Shn Davis supposed to be
defending the WBO lightweight title against Edwin Dale Los Santos.
You know, anybody that follows boxing knows what happened there.
He came in four pounds plus overweight. The fight got canceled.
Top rank you know, decided to keep the show on
when they couldn't work it out. Obviously, you got elevated
into the main event. What was sort of like, you know,
your thoughts about, Okay, now I'm in the main event
was did it add any pressure to you or nerves
or just feel like, you know what, I got an
opportunity now as the main event. Maybe this show myself
to a greater audience.
Speaker 5: Perhaps for myself, I would say I was more excitement involved, like, Okay,
I'm excited, it's my main event. You know I've in
here before. As far as that's that was the same
Virginia at the same time where I had the other
big fight, you know what Vasquez. I was excited to
be able to come back and main event there. But
it was also composure because I know that it's the
same thing as any other fight. You know, you got
to stay focused and stay composed to that. You know,
even being the main event. You know, people might be
crazy excited or want me to go crazy in there
and try to knock his head off. But for me
it's you know, I got to keep my composer and
do the same thing, you know, main event or not.
Speaker 3: So when when even going into that fight, you know
where you're rated in the WBO, you know that you're
getting close to being perhaps a mandatory Obviously, once the
title was stripped from him, the WBO, like the organization Zoo,
they look at their top rated contenders. It was you
in one position and Sam Noaks in another position, and
you became the fight for the vacant title.
Speaker 4: But the title.
Speaker 3: Shot kind of came out of the blue because nobody
expected that Keshan would miss way and be stripped of
the title. So this is probably coming a lot quicker
in terms of the title opportunity for you than maybe
originally expected. So when what was like your reaction when
you realized I'm getting my title shot in the next fight.
It's not against you know, Keishawn Davis, but it's gonna
be against Sam Noaks for a vacant title. But how
did you feel when you realized, Okay, title is stripped,
I'm getting the shot at this vacant help.
Speaker 5: Again, it was excitement. You know, being a world champion
or contenting for a title is a huge step up
in boxing from anything else, you know, from from Olympics,
from you know what, multiple time national champion as an amateur,
or you know, any of these smaller titles as a pros.
You know, being a world champion is I'm huge. So
being able to contend for that and not just being
ranked at the number one spot but actually contending for
the world title, it's like, I don't know, I would
say it's just something that I'm looking forward to now
like once once once that was once that was right
there in front of me. It became my reality.
Speaker 3: Kind of like kind of pinch yourself a little bit,
you say, what kind of like have to pinch yourself
a little bit, like I'm I'm I know my position,
but now I'm actually getting the.
Speaker 5: Fight right right? No, for sure? Yeah, yeah, because I
knew I was creeping up on it. You know, I
was already ranked number two at the time. I was
about to fight for it. But you know, uh, being
able to forward, to turn over and for me to
you know, content for that right now is like I said,
It's also involved composure, but I'm also excited. So you know,
we just uh we can't wait for it, man, like
two three weeks now to come.
Speaker 3: So, so what do you think about Sam Oaks. I've
seen him fight a few times. You guys have a
very similar record. He has seventeen fights. You have nineteen fights.
But you're twenty one years old. He's twenty eight year
old's a little bit older, a little bit of a
later start or uh you know, in terms of how
he's been brought along. Uh your I looked at your
record just to clarify. It feels to me like you
faced roughly similar kind of opposition. You know, he in
the UKU and the United States. What is your take
on him? What do you what do you think about him?
Speaker 5: I feel like sa is a He's a worthy opponent.
You know, me and him are, like you said, we
have faced similar opposition in a sense, and we're in
the same places in both of our careers. So it'll
be just as much of a test for him as
it is for me. You know, we both undefeated, uh
right there, closing in on twenty fights, So it's a
perfect test for us both, and it's going to show
uh boxing. I guess you know a lot about you know,
whoever's going to be this next world champion.
Speaker 3: So when the bell rings, what kind of style fight
do you see it? I am assuming that either yourself
certainly your team have taken a look at some of
the videos to sort of get a take on what
he's all about. And when you when you think about it,
how do you feel like the fight goes in terms
of the style.
Speaker 5: In terms of the style, I feel like this is
gonna be a fun fight. That's all I'm gonna say is, Yeah,
that's that's the style of it. It's gonna be really
fun for y'all, it's gonna be fun for us.
Speaker 4: No one's going to be running around the ring. I
don't believe.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: So this is kind of a big thing that I
think about. If you win this fight, you become, at
age twenty one, the youngest active male world champion in boxing.
Of all the guys that titles, I mean, I don't
know if you knew that the youngest presently is your
fellow top rank fighters Anders Ayas, who was twenty two
years old when he won his world title. He is
now twenty three years old. Did you realize that was
going to be the case if you're the winner, and
if so, what does that mean to you that you could,
you know, create that kind of history.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did realize that that's that's something that's huge
for boxing, but not just for boxing, but also for Cleveland, Ohio.
You know, to have not won a world champion, but
to that world champion, being the youngest active male world champion,
it's something he used to bring back to my hometown
and to be able to want to contend and have
a fight in Cleveland again. I don't know when that
would be, but soon I would love to do as soon.
But that'd be a huge thing, and I'm just excited
for that because it's something that you hear what Mike
Tyson has become world champion at what like twenty years
old or something or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was not only not only the youngest champion
of boxing at time, but in the history of boxing
had become the youngest heavyweight champion at that age.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's that's huge, that's huge. You know, I'm
excited for it.
Speaker 4: Well, certainly if you are the champion.
Speaker 3: I'm sure having been the covering top rank for a
long time, they know how to bring their guys home
for the hometown fight. They've done it a million times
with lots of their their championship fighters. I wanted to
just wrap up with this, but when you found I mean,
you knew you were gonna be fighting Oaks for the
vacant title, but I don't know if you necessarily knew
that it was gonna be uh in Riad, Saudi Arabia.
So I'm wondering what were your thoughts about, uh, you know,
making the trip to Saudi Arabia to have this opportunity
with all of your other fights obviously have taken place
in the United States.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Once, once you learned it was gonna be in Saturday, Arabia,
we knew it was gonna be different, and we knew
it was gonna be something big, you know, like this
is a huge car for world championship fights on the
same fight card. Originally we had thought it might have
been on the Crawford Canelo undercart, but for some reason
it was pushed back a while because I think that
was a good date to have it at the time.
But everything happens for a reason, and right now number
twenty second, I feel like it's be the time for
me to shine.
Speaker 3: Are you excited in any way to be fighting, you know,
in that sort of environment, you know, different than what
you're used to, and to make that trip overseas for
the fight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, for sure. But the first things first
is you got to handle business, so you know, wherever
I go to fight, you know, the first thing on
my mind is handing on of that business. And then
I could be excited about the results.
Speaker 3: After totally get that, Abdullah, I appreciate that time. I
wish you the best of luck in the fight, and
hopefully we get a chance to talk after the fact.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. Thank you, Dan. It's great to
learn that you were at my pro debut because when
you first mentioned it, I'm like, man like, he's sound
like he was there. You know a lot about it,
but you being ringside is something exciting as well. So
I appreciate you for your support along the way. You
bet best of luck to you, Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1: So we repeat, that's going to be an awesome card,
going to build it up more. It's not this coming weekend.
It's the weekend of the twenty second and two weekends.
B aranxious Ford and I know Abdulla Mason has been
on the rise. Sam Noakes is on the rise in England.
Compelling fight, not the biggest fight on this card, but
compelling fight.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 3: Listen, this is a very good card. There's other fights
on the on the lower part of the card, but
in terms of the four main fights on the show,
they're all interesting. You've got the main event David Benabiddie's
defending the WBC light heavyweight title against Anthony Yard. Two
good punchers, high stakes obviously, Brian Norman against Devin Haney.
Brian Norman defending the w BO welterweight title. Another excellent matchup.
I think this is my favorite fight on the card
is the Jesse Bam Rodriguez fight against Fernando Puma Martinez.
That's a three belt unification fight in the junior banhamweight division.
And then Abdulla Mason against Sam Oaks. They're fighting for
the vacant title, which was the belt that was tripped
from the overweight Kishon Davis, which was ironic and obviously
Abdulla Mason. I talked about this on the night that
it should have been Keishon Davis defending the title but
had been stripped the previous night and ended up having
to fight canceled because he was like four pounds plus overweight.
Abdullah Mason was in the co feature that night. In
his fight got bumped up to the main event. He
scored a win, and because the title had become vacant,
the next two top contenders in the WBO ratings were
ordered to beat for the vacant title. That happened to
be Abdullah Mason and Sam Noakes. This is a very
good fight two undefeated guys. Mason, as we discussed, also,
he's only twenty one years old. If he wins the fight,
he will become the youngest active male world champion in boxing.
The youngest champion right now is Xanders Ayas, who is
twenty three, and this will be even a couple years
younger than that. So Sam Oaks is a little bit
older at twenty eight, but he's got They both have
a similar number fight, so this is a good matchup.
I'm super excited about this. I've been watching Mason from
the beginning. I attended his professional debut and he's looked
very dynamic and you know, he's a That's the first
time I've had a formal interview with him, even though
I met him a few times. Really nice kid, and
I give him a lot of extra points because he
was punctual. If you're punctual for interviews, you get bonus
points and raykios both. So my appreciation for the organizers
of that interview at top Rank for hooking that up,
Evan Corn and An Abdullah forgiving me the time time
for it.
Speaker 1: And as the Brits say, is that going to be
a cracker? Let's see if that one's a cracker on
that undercard more time in the preview mode, but good stuff.
Grabbing that some news before we are gone you've been
talking about the top ranked fighters and who's going to
fight next and where? And Xander Ziez who is right
now the answer to the trivia question, he's the last
top rank headliner on the last show they did on
the ESPN deal. He is now going to get the
opportunity to fight the WBA Junior middleweight champion. Give me
the details on when we're going to have this fight
coming actually in the new year.
Speaker 3: So we will be fighting a boss Burrow. This is
the guy that had been elevated from the second tier
level when Terrence Crawford was stripped and or vacated when
the Canelo Alvarez fight took place. Remember, Burrew had been
in that awesome fight against the o Nsks that was
just a super you know, a tremendous battle back. I
believe it was in August scored a knockdown and like
the literally the last punch he threw of the fight
to if you had any doubt that he already should
have been the winner, that pretty much stealed it up,
even though he should have been ahead at that point.
And to Xandersias's credit, when he won the title, he's
been talking about this ever since. He won the belt
back in July. That a couple of things. One, he
wanted to have a home, go back home to Puerto Rico.
He lives in South Florida, but he was born in
Puerto Rico, even though he spent most of his life
living in Florida. But he wanted to have a fight
in Puerto Rico to defend the title. And he didn't
want to fight just a nobody. He wanted a quality
of pony. Wanted either a champion or you know, some
significant fight and top rank. There were some at the
company that didn't want to do that fight. They were
wanting to match him with somebody that maybe was a
little bit lesser or not a champion, or however you
want to describe it. But the kid was pretty steadfast
and they were able to make the deal with the
boss Beru and they're doing that fight. It's going to
take place January thirty first in San Juan. Top Rank
hasn't formally announced the fight, but they have a press
conference gied for the Arena in San Juan on Wednesday
where this fight will take place. I confirm the fact
that it is happening with people at Top Rank because
and also with the WBO, who obviously has to give
their blessing to the fights of this fight is happening,
and it's a good matchup. And the thing about it
is I have detailed in discussed a thousand times DJ
about the lack of the Top Rank broadcast platform. It
is the belief by a sawm at Top Rank that
with this fight being scheduled for January thirty first, and
there being a little breadcrumbs and hints that they're getting
close to some type of deal, it seems to me
that I would think that it would not be unreasonable
to say that when this fight happens, this will be
the main event of the first card of whatever their
new deal is, because they're not making this fight like
the fights we've been talking about, whether it's Raphael Spinosa's
upcoming defense or the one that just happened with michaela
or Tiger Johnson fighting on Probox, or whatever other fight
you want to talk about. The Brian Norman is also
on this card with Abdula Mason that's being bankrolled by
Turkey Al Sheik. Their fighters are fighting, but they're not
fighting on Top rank card. This is being positioned as
a Top Rank only card. Meaning they're going to bear
the brenth of all expenses for the event, not just
maybe having a kick and a few dollars for one
of their fighters, or however you want to describe it,
for like maybe to meet their minimum, that type of thing.
So I would be rather surprised if they weren't going
to do a fight, that they would do a fight
of this caliber and not have some financial backing from
a broadcaster. So we'll see how that plays out. But
in terms of the fight itself, good matchup, you can't
you know, they may not be household names, but if
you tell me, you can make a unification fight. And
both of the guys deserve credit because they're doing this
in their first defense, not taking soft touches, because they
both won their titles in their last fights in July
for Xander in August four Burrew, and you know what,
they're going into the most makeable unification that they can take.
The other champions are otherwise occupied. Martaz Laiev is fighting
Josh Kelly Fondora supposed he's going to get rescheduled against
Keith Thurman, and so that leaves these two guys as
the other two with the titles to fight each other.
Speaker 2: We just said at the beginning of this post cast.
Speaker 1: You've got Jaron Ennis, You've got Virgil Ortiz, You've still
You've got maybe Tim Zoo if he can get back
on the company. You got plenty of compelling names. I
don't know about a Charlow name. I don't know about
a narrow Spence name. They again have been gone for
too long.
Speaker 2: Let's see. But if one fifty four is definitely compelling,
and add this to the list for James, this.
Speaker 3: Is a good matchup for that division. And then you know,
if you've watched Xander in his recent fights and you
saw the Barrew fight against Tees, he made an excellent,
exciting fight.
Speaker 2: All right, A couple more things.
Speaker 1: WBA bandamweight title holders say, yas assume me in Japan
will now be fighting. My gosh, he's still around. He's
still fighting as a bandam weight. He's got a challenge
for the title again. Donito Donair and give the give
the deats, give the particulars here.
Speaker 3: Forty two years young for Nono Donair already a guy
who's won world titles in the flyweight division, the bantamweight division,
Junior Featherwate and featherweight. I've been fighting primarily at banda
weight for the last two years, last few years when
he dropped back down. Uh now he he In his
last fight, he went to Argentina and he won the
WBA interim title. Who was unfortunate the fight was short
circuit to buy a headbutt. It wound up being a
ninth round technical decision. He was coming off for that fight.
He hadn't fought for almost two years, a twenty three
month layoff. But he got the interim belt and now
he's got the opportunity to fight for the full title
by going to Tokyo to do this fight against Assumi.
In every fight that he fights could be the end
of his career. He's obviously a short fire Hall of
famer if you get get into the minutia of the belts.
Remember Sasumi had won the title. Afterwards he had to
have eye surgery, and so the WBA made him a
champion in recess because he was going to be out
for a little bit, and they elevated the other title
there Antonio Vargas, the American fighter who was an Olympian
for the US, who was at a Kissimi, Florida. They
elevated him to the full champion and sort of around
the same time frame, Susumi was cleared to return to health.
You know, he was healthy, was cleared to return to
the ring on Unfortunately, Antonio Vargas his mother passed away
and he decided, I'm going to take some time off,
so they reinstated Sasume. He's coming back. They put Vargas
in recess to deal with his personal situation with his
family tragedy, and so SUSUMEI is back as the champion.
He's going to defend that against non No don't Air.
Originally they were they wanted to be Sussume against Vargas
to consolidate you know, the two bell or the interim recess,
however you want to describe it. But anyway, anytime Nondo
Dunair is going to get an opportunity against an undefeated
champion like s Assume, you got to be interested because
this is a guy that's, you know, gonna be a
first ballot Canastota International Boxing Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: On don't Air.
Speaker 3: You know, he's always been one of my favorite fighters
for a long time, a wonderful guy. We'll see if
he's got anything left in Thoh's old legs at forty
two years old. It is not like the most experienced
you know, battle test and fighter out there. Even though
he's he's only twelve to zero with three three draws
and eight knockouts, he's already twenty nine years old. Sheelse
all right, December for that one December seventeenth and December
seventeenth in Japan. And one more nugget with Claressa Shields.
Don't snicker when I read what you wrote, which is
undisputed women's heavyweight champion. Is there another women's heavyweight that
is of any relevance right now? No, while she's the
undisputed women's heavyweight champion. Anyway, Claressa Shields.
Speaker 2: Has a new deal.
Speaker 1: Her deal it expired, and it's a lucrative deal. I
for one, when I saw the numbers before we're even
going to talk about it now, went okay, really, But
in any event, good for her if you can get
the bag like the kid get the bag.
Speaker 3: By the way, when you mentioned that she was the
undisputed women's heavyweight champion, when I sent you that on
the rundown, it was not sent as a matter of opinion.
It's just what she is factually, but she's also and
maybe it's not factual because people could potentially have a
dad heard of opinion, but I think most people viewer
as also the number one female boxer pound for pound,
which in some ways is more relevant than her being
and undisputed champion in the heavyweight division. But nonetheless, CLARESSA.
Shields is a the you know, to me anyway, the
best female boxer in the world. Unfortunately at the moment,
does not have a lot of competition to fight because
she is fighting at a weight class it is so
to use a word we love so much on the pod, bereft. Yeah,
and she has said many times she certainly could make
the lower weight that she wanted to. So I would
personally like to see her fight uh in the in
the little in the in a little bit of the
lesser weight class to get a little more competition, like
against you know, she could do a rematch against Franchion
Cruise Desern, which would be good. They fought in their
pro debuts against each other years ago. She could fight
to Dasa Green, another fighter who's got reputation who has
never fought her before.
Speaker 4: But whatever.
Speaker 3: But the main thing here is her. She had been
promoted for the last several years by Dimitri Salita and
his Salida Promotions company. That contract was up and she
was in free agency, and in the end, uh, I
guess she went and she talked to different people see
what her value was or what else was out there,
and in the end she went back to Dmitri and
brought on some group called Win Records, which is this
is their first athlete. I guess they're going to be
involved with, and they signed her to a co promotion
deal that they announced as being worth a minimum guarantee
at eight million dollars, which has to be front of it.
I don't know if it's this. I can't say what
the what the records were because I don't know what
Katie Taylor and Amanda have been making in recent fights.
But it's certainly among the biggest deals ever for a
female boxer, without question.
Speaker 1: Call what the skeptic in me on how are they
ever going to make that kind of money back with
her fighting? Well anything else they're doing. And I know
a few things about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, where they come, where they get it's not
eight million dollars per fight. Keep in mind, it's eight
million dollars over the course of I think it's like
four fights. She does actually pretty good numbers on his
own by all accounts, and they do pay a good
license fee for her events because they draw numbers relatively speaking.
She also has done an excellent job when she fights
at home and basically has made the Little Caesars Arena
in Detroit almost like her home away from home. She's
from Flint, but that's a major arena where the NHL
team plays in Detroit, the Red Wings, and they've done
very I think they're sold out for their last show
they had up there, and so they do nice gates
for her. She does garner some sponsors, so it's not
out of the realm of possibility for them to do
something with those type of numbers. She's not fighting on
pay per view, so that's not an issue. They don't
have to worry about that part of it. For the
most part, the question is who can they get her
to fight that people are not going to get sick
er sick of her fight a fighting people that not
only are given no chance before the fight, but then
get in the ring and can't win a single round.
But again, that's nothing to you don't blame thar Usa.
She goes in there and does the job. She's a
great fighter, all respect her. I've always liked watching her
fight for the most part. And so good first she
she is getting paid a tremendous amount of money, you know,
and and the women at the top level are starting
to at least catch up to some degree with some
of the men who are making a lot of money.
Speaker 2: So good for them, all right.
Speaker 1: I think we have sufficed here on the recap mode
with the or Tees win. We also heard from Abdullah Mason,
and now we get ready for Chris Ubank Junior and
Connor Ben rematch fight week later on.
Speaker 2: In this week. You and I are anxious to build
that fight up.
Speaker 1: We got some you know, we got some more compelling
fights coming here in November, which we like. So we
start heading down and closing out the year. Anything else
or are we good?
Speaker 4: I think we're good.
Speaker 3: I have to say though, as far as that you
just mentioned with you Bank and Ben the rematch, I
still think at this moment in time that the first
fight that they had earlier in the year is probably
the fight of the year so far. It's not whether
the rematch can can match that or exceed that. Obviously
remains to be seen, but the stage is set. I
think it will be compelling and it just goes to
show you that you don't need a world title or
a major world title to make a big event. And
what I didn't mention we were talking about Ennis. The
prospect of Boots Ennis against Virgil Ortis is they're both
interim title holders, but it would be a very significant
fight without a major world title at stake. And to me,
there's nothing wrong with that. You know, belts do matter
and they're important, but you don't have to have a
belt for every single fight that ever happens. Would it
be ideal if there were?
Speaker 4: Sure? But who cares. You want to see the matchup.
Speaker 3: You want to see the two best guys or two
of the best guys in that weight class, and they're
gonna fight each other. I don't think anybody is going
to be upset if there's no major world title. I
joked around, like, are we going to get a if
they make the matchup and it's offishal a, we're going
to get the interim championship unification?
Speaker 4: Oh please?
Speaker 2: All right on that note, let's have a good week.
Speaker 1: We'll reconvene later in the week looking more at you
Bank Junior beIN the rematch.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan, Rayphiel.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I am merely TJ.
Speaker 2: Reeves.
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