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Speaker 4: Home, Hey Dean, how are you?
Speaker 2: I am well, sir? How can I help you.
Speaker 4: Well? Last year, on one of my horizontal patio beans,
Speaker 4: I noticed a ball, like a water balloon behind the
Speaker 4: paint and I cut it open. A lot of water
Speaker 4: came out. The wood was very wet and rotted. I
Speaker 4: removed all the bad wood, let it draw and I
Speaker 4: used exterior spackle, sanded prime, and painted sain. Thing happened
Speaker 4: again this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're wondering what can you do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe spackle wasn't the idea or yeah, so okay,
Speaker 4: fifteen ft beam, it's a.
Speaker 2: How long is it? How long is it?
Speaker 4: It's fifteen foot and it's ten by six, so replacing
Speaker 4: it would be kind of hard.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now what are the members that are sitting on top
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 4: Also beams?
Speaker 7: The vertical beams?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is this is a This is the
Speaker 1: beam out of the front edge of a patio cover.
Speaker 4: It goes from the house out Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got you, Okay, got you? Got you?
Speaker 1: So those others that are tying into it, okay. That
Speaker 1: that's the question I have. Did you guys build this
Speaker 1: or is this just part of the house when you
Speaker 1: bought it.
Speaker 4: Part of the house when we bought it?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you really don't know how it was originally constructed.
Speaker 1: Here's the trick, my friend and I don't want to
Speaker 1: bring you, you know, more difficult news. But okay, so
Speaker 1: first of all, first of all, let's just address very
Speaker 1: quickly the fixing of the rotten wood. I wouldn't use spackle,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't use anything like that. What I would use
Speaker 1: and use the same thing that the pros use, use
Speaker 1: the same thing that a termite company would use. If
Speaker 1: they came out and found termite ridden areas and dry
Speaker 1: rot and so on. You're right. You dig out all
Speaker 1: the stuff that's rotten, anything that's soft, You dig it
Speaker 1: down until you hit hardwood again. And then what we
Speaker 1: do is we rebuild it with Bondo. Okay, not spakle.
Speaker 1: Spackle is porous spackle will allow water to flow through it. Bondo,
Speaker 1: like we're bondoing DNSE on a on a car and
Speaker 1: literally that. And now Bondo in recent years has made
Speaker 1: their own wood filler, and that's totally fine to use it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's an epoxy.
Speaker 1: You mix, you take out a glob of it and
Speaker 1: you mix it with the the activator of the catalyst,
Speaker 1: and then you've got so much time to get it
Speaker 1: in there and make it work. But Bondo will replace
Speaker 1: the missing wood with plastic essentially, and as a result,
Speaker 1: it's a much much better patch for exterior wood and
Speaker 1: so and it's standable and you can retexture it and
Speaker 1: it's paintable and all of those good things. So Bondo
Speaker 1: that's the key to restoring exterior wood. But here's my concern.
Speaker 1: My concern is that perhaps this patio cover was done
Speaker 1: like so many patio covers are, which is they built it.
Speaker 1: They put all the raw wood out there, they put
Speaker 1: that those beams out there, and then they built the
Speaker 1: other stuff on top of it, those intersecting beams, and
Speaker 1: then they painted it all, which was the wrong thing
Speaker 1: to do when something like exterior wood is being built,
Speaker 1: exterior wood structures.
Speaker 2: What we want to do is we want to.
Speaker 1: Make sure all of those pieces, all of the individual
Speaker 1: pieces are primed at least primed, if not painted, before
Speaker 1: we assemble them together, because what could very well be
Speaker 1: the case is that right next to that pocket of
Speaker 1: water that is forming underneath the paint, so moisture is
Speaker 1: getting underneath the paint and bulging it out. Right next
Speaker 1: to that pocket of water, you may have some other
Speaker 1: wood connecting with that wood. And my guess is I'd say,
Speaker 1: based on the way that most people build patio covers,
Speaker 1: there's a ninety percent chance that underneath that connection in
Speaker 1: that scene, it's just bare wood there, which means that
Speaker 1: any little crack in the paint, any little you know,
Speaker 1: any little opening at all, allows water to get in
Speaker 1: and sit there and then find its way to you know,
Speaker 1: a lower point and cause a problem, you know, a
Speaker 1: few inches away or down below it. So here is
Speaker 1: the thing bondo first, and if that solves your problem, great,
Speaker 1: But if you still are encountering this, what you may
Speaker 1: have to do is disconnect those intersecting pieces of wood
Speaker 1: from that beam, not not take the whole thing apart,
Speaker 1: but disconnect each one, lift it slightly and or slide
Speaker 1: out that piece, and then get both surfaces, the end
Speaker 1: of the intersecting wood and the beam where where it touches.
Speaker 1: Get those surfaces at least primed, if not painted, so
Speaker 1: that there's paint underneath all the joints, so that moisture
Speaker 1: just doesn't have an easy way to get past the
Speaker 1: paint and into the wood.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: All right, my friend. That is my best advice for
Speaker 1: you for that patio cover. And take note everyone who
Speaker 1: has a wood patio cover, whether you built it or
Speaker 1: somebody else built it. When we put together and normally
Speaker 1: we don't pre paint, okay, but we will pre prime everything.
Speaker 1: And that's a seiler in and of itself, and a
Speaker 1: level of protection when we put together like a patio
Speaker 1: cover structure or a pergola or anything like that, would
Speaker 1: that's going to be painted sitting out exposed to the elements.
Speaker 1: We inevitably will take all of the pieces, get them
Speaker 1: all pre primed before we start lapping them on top
Speaker 1: of each other. And that way we know at least
Speaker 1: we have one layer, at least one layer of protection.
Speaker 1: And then once those pieces go together, before we paint,
Speaker 1: we calk all of those seams, calk them all so
Speaker 1: that there's no opportunity for water to even at that.
Speaker 1: After years and years and years, you might have something,
Speaker 1: some level of intrusion, but that's the way you do
Speaker 1: it right, and that way your paint holds longest, would
Speaker 1: last the longest, and so on. I hope that makes
Speaker 1: sense to y'all. All right, more of your calls when
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Speaker 1: I want to go to Larry. Hey, Larry, welcome home.
Speaker 1: Good morning Dean, Good morning, sir. How can I help you?
Speaker 7: We just moved into a house here in San Clemente.
Speaker 7: It was built in about two thousand and two, and
Speaker 7: the backyard has a concrete patio about nine hundred square
Speaker 7: feet and it's in pretty good shape. That has some
Speaker 7: spider cracks and a few bigger cracks, none over a
Speaker 7: sixteenth of an inch and none are uneven, so I
Speaker 7: think those are repairable. But the surface is pretty discolored,
Speaker 7: looks like there's some iron stains from pots, and then
Speaker 7: it almost looks like a lichen type film that it
Speaker 7: gives it sort of a sand color. So I'm looking
Speaker 7: for your advice on options of how to resurface it
Speaker 7: or make it look more desirable. And I've heard of
Speaker 7: overlays and maybe paints, and I just know that you're
Speaker 7: the guy to give me the advice on what we
Speaker 7: might do to make it look better.
Speaker 2: Ah well, you're very very kind. Okay, So.
Speaker 1: A couple of things that a couple approaches that you
Speaker 1: could take. Now, of course, you know I'm not visually
Speaker 1: looking at it myself here, so it's not the easiest
Speaker 1: thing for me to be able to give you.
Speaker 2: Precise advice on.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: However, given that I'll give you two strong I think
Speaker 1: that are strong worthy suggestions, and in fact they might
Speaker 1: actually combine together into one when it comes to two.
Speaker 1: You know, rust stains, which can happen, by the way,
Speaker 1: for a number of different reasons. It could happen simply
Speaker 1: because of drainage. It can happen because something is rusting
Speaker 1: somewhere or carrying you know, that oxide with it as
Speaker 1: water flows off the roof and it settles on the
Speaker 1: concrete and then it just kind of soaks in. And
Speaker 1: the same with what looks like the lichen kind of structures.
Speaker 1: And the problem is that these things are grabbing on
Speaker 1: because concrete by nature is porous in it's finish, and
Speaker 1: because of its porosity, they get a foothold, and they're
Speaker 1: not just sitting on the surface. They're likely at least
Speaker 1: a little bit under the surface as well. So that's,
Speaker 1: you know, a hurdle that has to be overcome. Cracking,
Speaker 1: you know, cracking is something that is gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: if you've got spider cracking, then that's fine, no reason
Speaker 1: to worry about that. You may not like the look
Speaker 1: of it. If you've got anything that could be filled
Speaker 1: at all, then you take a little epoxy crack filler
Speaker 1: and fill that. But exterior concrete, I'm gonna ward you
Speaker 1: away from paint just I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 1: painting concrete period, just because water. It is a porous
Speaker 1: material and water will get behind the paint and eventually
Speaker 1: push the paint off from the backside. So when you
Speaker 1: paint concrete, and you know there are people out there,
Speaker 1: like listen, if you do the right things, it'll last
Speaker 1: for a long time.
Speaker 2: Well that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you will be repainting it again, and
Speaker 1: you're not gonna want to repaint the whole thing just
Speaker 1: because a few flakes start to happen, which means then
Speaker 1: you're going to be living with, you know, ugly concrete
Speaker 1: for a while, until enough of it starts messing up
Speaker 1: that you just like, all right, let's just redo the
Speaker 1: whole thing again. Water gets behind surface concrete and will
Speaker 1: push the paint out from the backside. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Two things, your conditions with the rust deposits and maybe
Speaker 1: the lichen like stuff that's more than just like a
Speaker 1: surface stain. And so I wouldn't waste your time with
Speaker 1: something like, oh, get some tri sodium phosphate, some TSP,
Speaker 1: get out there and scrub it down and see if
Speaker 1: you can't, you know, get that out. I'm thinking no,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a lost cause as far as
Speaker 1: that goes. But here is the thing. Resurfacing that concrete
Speaker 1: would be probably my first step.
Speaker 2: And these days.
Speaker 1: That's actually not that tough, especially for exterior patio stuff,
Speaker 1: because you could run down to your local like a
Speaker 1: home depot or a rental yard and rent for a
Speaker 1: day to the tune of about I'm going to say
Speaker 1: about a little under three hundred dollars a concrete resurfacing machine.
Speaker 1: It's going to come in its own little trailer and
Speaker 1: it rolls out and it's about as easy to operate honestly,
Speaker 1: as like a floor waxer. It's heavy, but it's sitting
Speaker 1: on big wheels, and it's got a resurfacing diamond a disc,
Speaker 1: and you just kind of swish it back and forth,
Speaker 1: and you can take that top layer of concrete. We
Speaker 1: use these all the time to resurface, really, I mean
Speaker 1: grease ridden, messed up, unevenly cracked garage slabs in order
Speaker 1: to prepare them for epoxy coatings and all this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So resurfacing your concrete out there could number one,
Speaker 1: bring all of its texture to uniformity, will very very
Speaker 1: likely get past the lichen growth and the rust stains,
Speaker 1: and leave you with now a pretty fresh concrete surface
Speaker 1: with some cracking in it that you could patch with
Speaker 1: some epoxy. Then if you wanted to, and if for
Speaker 1: some reason they're still modeling and splotching in the concrete,
Speaker 1: which I wouldn't be surprised if there were, because it's
Speaker 1: exterior concrete and that tends to happen, then I would
Speaker 1: suggest that you approach the concrete at least invest the gate.
Speaker 1: Approaching it from a staining perspective, to stain concrete is
Speaker 1: essentially to do what the lichen and the rust has
Speaker 1: already done, which is to introduce it into the porosity
Speaker 1: of the concrete. Stains last a lot longer. They are
Speaker 1: not a surface coating. Therefore, water inside the concrete won't
Speaker 1: push them out and ruin that finish. It'll be a
Speaker 1: modeled kind of finish. The concrete will take it unevenly.
Speaker 1: But that's actually the look that most people who are
Speaker 1: staining their concrete are looking for anyway. And the cool
Speaker 1: thing about that is that it hides the modeling and
Speaker 1: the stains that are already there, just sort of incorporates
Speaker 1: it into a general sort of stylistically modeled effect, and
Speaker 1: it will eventually fade from UV light and you will
Speaker 1: redo it again at some point, but way way longer
Speaker 1: down the road than if you paint it. And so
Speaker 1: that would be that'd be my first guess.
Speaker 7: And should I have someone do that? In other words,
Speaker 7: I'm I'm okay, DYI, but this sounds a little over
Speaker 7: my head. How do I find someone?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: You could talk to any concrete restoration company or just
Speaker 1: a concrete person in general, and uh, and they could
Speaker 1: give you a price for doing exactly that. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do the staining myself, unless you're just like
Speaker 1: gung ho full on into it, because there's a there's
Speaker 1: a bit of an art form to doing it. But
Speaker 1: but I think that's an approach that whether you do
Speaker 1: it yourself or whether you hire somebody, I think you'll
Speaker 1: be pleased with the way that you'll restore.
Speaker 7: That concrete, right, Because if I try to put an overlay,
Speaker 7: A lot of people are selling that idea that's, you know,
Speaker 7: another surface of like applied concrete on top and then
Speaker 7: they stamp it. I don't know, it just doesn't sound
Speaker 7: like a good idea.
Speaker 1: I am not in favor of that, I really and
Speaker 1: and there are companies I know that swear that, oh
Speaker 1: we'll do it and it'll last. But uh, I don't
Speaker 1: like stamp concrete to begin with. And I don't like
Speaker 1: the idea of overlaying concrete onto concrete. It's what we
Speaker 1: call a cold joint, meaning that there's a it's a
Speaker 1: very very difficult bonding process. And in my opinion, because
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of overlay patios down the line,
Speaker 1: they fail. They just fail. I'm not a favorite. I
Speaker 1: would rather try and integrate the existing concrete into a
Speaker 1: color and a style that you find acceptable, then try
Speaker 1: and put an overlay on top.
Speaker 7: I love it, Sean, thank you so much. You saved
Speaker 7: me tons of ours. Thank you so much again.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Larry, thank you for the call and
Speaker 1: for the praise, my friend. Keep listening and I very
Speaker 1: much appreciate it.
Speaker 2: All right. You see, you see what happens here on
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Home. This is our little program on Sunday mornings.
Speaker 1: Right here the we are having an all Calls Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite shows to do. No,
Speaker 1: it's not because I don't have to prepare. No, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have to prepare, but that's not why it's
Speaker 1: my favorite show. It's because I love taking calls. I
Speaker 1: love talking to y'all about what's going on with your homes.
Speaker 1: The number to reach me, by the way, callboards are
Speaker 1: open right now eight three three two Ask Dean eight
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Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Every few weeks we just clear the decks and we're like,
Speaker 1: we're just taking calls because calls are fun. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk to Marco. Hey Marco, welcome home.
Speaker 5: Hey dean, longtime listener. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. How can I help?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm curious. I am just back from a trip
Speaker 5: to the Palisades in Malibu, and our company installs homes
Speaker 5: out of steel framing, and I just wanted to get
Speaker 5: your opinion on steel studs versus wood studs as far
Speaker 5: as a framing material for a home.
Speaker 1: Steel studs are great. I love steel studs, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean they're more expensive than wood studs, generally speaking,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have misconceptions about steel studs.
Speaker 1: They'll see them, they're like, what do you mean more expensive?
Speaker 1: I saw them stacked up at home depot and they
Speaker 1: seemed pretty reasonable. Those steel studs there, as you know, Marco,
Speaker 1: are non structural partition studs. They're the kind of studs
Speaker 1: that go into a tenant improvement in a commercial building
Speaker 1: or when there's no weight bearing on them. So a
Speaker 1: steel stud home that is actually weight bearing, that's a
Speaker 1: whole different animal of stud much thicker, more expensive. But
Speaker 1: as a general rule, I mean, especially for a new build,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can afford it, I think steel
Speaker 1: studs are great. I am in favor of them, probably
Speaker 1: not for the reason that people might think since you
Speaker 1: mentioned the palisades and the fire, I'm not really concerned
Speaker 1: about building a home out of steel studs as a
Speaker 1: way to protect it against fire.
Speaker 2: And that may.
Speaker 1: Shock some people and like, what do you mean. Well,
Speaker 1: here's what I mean. Number One, if you're going to
Speaker 1: invest extra money in your home to make it fire hardened,
Speaker 1: you do that on the surface, not at the bone level.
Speaker 1: You do it on the skin level, so that fire
Speaker 1: doesn't get into the home to start with. If you've
Speaker 1: done that right, if you've protected the outer surface of
Speaker 1: your home in a way that keeps fire from getting in.
Speaker 1: For instance, the thing I talk about every single week,
Speaker 1: which is ember PROOFVNS so that embers don't get into
Speaker 1: the attic one hour fire rated materials on the out
Speaker 1: outside of the home, which are code in southern California anyway,
Speaker 1: And there are better and more resilient versions of that,
Speaker 1: and weaker and less resilient versions of that. But if
Speaker 1: you've really taken the care to protect the shell of
Speaker 1: the house, and new builds in California I require fire
Speaker 1: sprinklers on the inside, then you have taken the effort
Speaker 1: to protect the interior of the house as well, then
Speaker 1: the bones of the house in terms of fire not
Speaker 1: my primary concern. But that being said, let's just put
Speaker 1: fire aside. So yeah, Dean just said, it doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter to me whether you build out a wood or
Speaker 1: steel in terms of fire protecting your home, because fires
Speaker 1: don't burn from the studs out. They burn from the
Speaker 1: outside in and from the bottom up. Okay, So protect
Speaker 1: the outside from a bones perspective though as a builder, Okay,
Speaker 1: as an old framer, which is what I am. Then
Speaker 1: here's why I love steel studs, same reason I love
Speaker 1: laminated wood studs, new engineered wood studs. They're perfectly straight.
Speaker 1: I mean there's no bows, there's no bends, there's no warps.
Speaker 1: I like steel studs from the perspective of termite invasion
Speaker 1: because there's nothing there for bugs to eat in your walls.
Speaker 1: I like steel studs because they're perfectly straight, and they
Speaker 1: make everything else installed, from dry wall to moldings to
Speaker 1: everything else just fly in perfectly. Now, they're not the
Speaker 1: easiest thing to remodel down the road, but we're talking
Speaker 1: about a new build, so hopefully you know you get
Speaker 1: your design right, and you're not planning on remodeling anytime soon.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, they have a wonderful, wonderful place
Speaker 1: Marco in the world of residential home construction, and people
Speaker 1: should seriously consider it if it's within their budget price point.
Speaker 1: And in the Palisades, I have no doubt that there
Speaker 1: are people who have plenty of people who have the
Speaker 1: budget for steel studs. I just don't worry about it
Speaker 1: from the fire threat perspective. I think of it about
Speaker 1: the overall quality of the home for everything from termites
Speaker 1: to just beautifully straight finishes.
Speaker 2: How's that for an answer.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a great answer. I would like to make
Speaker 5: one comment where you said if you take care of
Speaker 5: the exterior, there's no problem with the interior. What I
Speaker 5: did notice while I was at the Malibu and the Palisades,
Speaker 5: a lot of the fires blew out the windows, went
Speaker 5: in the window and lit not only the interior on fire,
Speaker 5: but also the roof. I saw one building that was
Speaker 5: actually built completely out of steel, but they had a
Speaker 5: would osb roof with a standing scene metal roof on top,
Speaker 5: so people would go, oh and protect it. I've got
Speaker 5: a standing seam metal roof on the top. Unfortunately, when
Speaker 5: the fire blew through the window, it went up totally
Speaker 5: burned the OSB plywood un left the standard seam roof
Speaker 5: where it completely slid down and was laying in the backyard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would so absolutely, I absolutely agree with you
Speaker 1: on that. There's no question about that whatsoever. But again
Speaker 1: you mentioned the windows. See for me, part of the
Speaker 1: ensuring spending the extra money on the shell of the
Speaker 1: house includes the windows, in other words, fully tempered fire
Speaker 1: rated windows, because yeah, that's one of the areas I
Speaker 1: don't want anything penetrating through the windows and getting inside
Speaker 1: the house. And in a new build with fire sprinklers
Speaker 1: inside the house, if anything were to get through one
Speaker 1: way or the other, then it would be doused as
Speaker 1: well and not have that same opportunity. So I'm still
Speaker 1: holding to my same position that for fire safety, steel
Speaker 1: studs aren't the most important thing. Certainly they could help,
Speaker 1: but they're not the most important spend. But I love
Speaker 1: metal studs in terms of all the other benefits they
Speaker 1: bring to the building aspect. Marco, thank you for your
Speaker 1: call and for your comments. I appreciate you, my friend,
Speaker 1: and keep listening to the show. Really appreciate it, all right,
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