WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:06.160 House Whisper on demand. 3 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:07.719 On the iHeart Radio app. 4 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:14.240 Hey, welcome home. I'm Dean Sharp the House Whisper. I 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.879 design custom homes and I build some custom homes too, 6 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.399 and I am your guide on the weekends to better 7 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:26.359 understand that place where you live. Today on the show 8 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:31.920 a continuation of yesterday. It is an all calls weekend. 9 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.960 That means you set the agenda with what's going on 10 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.759 in the show today. I love taking calls, love it, 11 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:41.200 and we do it every few weeks. We just clear 12 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.560 the decks so that you've got time to talk to 13 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.320 me about whatever's going on with your home. So, whether 14 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:50.520 it is a construction issue, a design issue, whether you 15 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.600 want to talk high and lofty architecture or just figure 16 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:58.079 out how to fix your leaky toilet, or anything in between. 17 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:00.840 I'm here for you to do my best. 18 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.399 So anything that's got you scratching your head about your home, 19 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.519 give me a call and we'll figure it out together. 20 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.959 I promise the number to reach me eight three three two. 21 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:15.000 Ask Dean eight three three the numeral two. Ask Dean 22 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.000 eight three three two. Ask Dean. It's just that simple. 23 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:21.640 What are we serving up for you today? Follow us 24 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.799 on social media. We only do the good kind. We're 25 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:29.959 on all the usual suspects, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, x home 26 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.439 with Dean, same handle for them all. And of course, 27 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:37.319 if your home is in need of some personal house 28 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:41.159 whisper attention, like you're thinking to yourself, Man, I really 29 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:43.879 need to get that guy standing in my kitchen staring 30 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:46.239 out that window telling me what the hell do I 31 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.640 do with that thing? That can be done too. You 32 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.359 can get a in home design console with me and 33 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.920 the tea here. Just go to house Whisperer dot design. 34 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.719 All right, let me introduce our awesome team to get 35 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:01.480 us started off. 36 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:03.760 Elmer, of course, is on the board. 37 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:09.159 Hello Dan, Hello man, doing good, Happy Sunday. I'm actually 38 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:11.759 excited for an all calls episode. You know, got to 39 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:12.520 hear the listeners. 40 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.560 That's right. Have you got big plans for Saint Patrick's 41 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:16.159 Day tomorrow? 42 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.000 No plans tomorrow, but like today, it's stacked up. I 43 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.919 have a bunch of stuff, so maybe tomorrow. 44 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.159 I love it. Got its stacked up. It's stacked up. Uh. 45 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:32.879 Producer Richie is as always. Oh he's busy taking calls 46 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.240 right now. The callboard is open. Richie is gonna take 47 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.240 your call. I'll tell you everything you need to know 48 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:41.120 before popping into the queue. Thank you, Richie for always 49 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:42.560 doing an outstanding job. 50 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:44.599 Cam here you go. 51 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.240 And speaking of outstanding jobs, Eileen Gonzalez is at the 52 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:51.840 news desk. Good morning, Eileen, Good morning, Dean. 53 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.639 How's it going. Good? Good, Good to be with you 54 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:58.039 on a Sunday. As always, you caught up with the 55 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:02.919 time change yet, know me neither, not at all, me neither. 56 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:05.199 It takes a little while for me. I was looking, 57 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.840 I was watching the sunset yesterday and I'm like, it's 58 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:08.719 seven thirty. 59 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:10.080 What I know. 60 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.599 I'm so confused, and my poor dog is confused. She 61 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.199 doesn't know when to eat, and it's just thrown everybody off. 62 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:17.680 Yeah, I just you know, I mean, I don't want 63 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.199 to get into the politics of it, because everybody's got 64 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.479 their opinion. But personally, I'm just saying, personally, I have 65 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.719 no I have no use for daylight savings. I just 66 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:30.639 wish we just let the seasons change the way they do, 67 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.639 let one thing roll into the next. 68 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:34.719 I would be perfectly happy with that. 69 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:40.800 Yeah, all right, somebody who's also with me sitting across 70 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.919 the table from me. Uh, my better half. I say 71 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:49.560 that every week only only because it's completely true. My 72 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.039 design partner, the co owner co founder of House Whismer 73 00:03:53.680 --> 00:04:01.080 Wismer Whismer Msmann Business msmeru wismers nothing, my best friend 74 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:02.199 in all the world. 75 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:04.080 Uh Tina is here? 76 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:06.719 Wow? 77 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:10.719 Clear, clear your throat with your mic off. Welcome home, 78 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.759 Good day have you. 79 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:14.280 You and me? 80 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:18.600 Babe? All right? Dang it, you know we're starting. 81 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.680 I have to talk to Jesus about taking up a 82 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:23.199 little too much time at the top of the hour 83 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.439 because we're already up for a break. 84 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:26.160 Uh. 85 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:30.879 So we're gonna do that. Will Jesus gets a pass though? No, no, no, no, 86 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:31.800 not on KFI. 87 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:37.240 Uh we uh, we are going to dive into calls. 88 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:38.920 Let me give you the number real quick. One more 89 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.480 time eight three three two. Ask Dean A three three 90 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:43.199 the numeral two. 91 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:43.759 Ask Dean. 92 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:48.040 It's an all calls Sunday morning. We will take the 93 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:49.639 first one right after us. 94 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.720 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 95 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:55.920 KFI A M six forty. 96 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.279 We are doing an all calls Sunday morning. 97 00:04:59.319 --> 00:04:59.519 Here. 98 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.399 It's all up to you. 99 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:03.120 You get to set the agenda for the show, and 100 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:04.959 we've got plenty of room on the board for you've 101 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.079 got some calls on the board, there's still more room 102 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.519 for you. And I select calls randomly, so it's not 103 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:12.959 like just because there are people who got there ahead 104 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.120 of you means that you're gonna be waiting in line. 105 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.879 It could be you could be the next call. 106 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:18.839 You know. 107 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:21.079 I mean you probably won't be, but you could be. 108 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.279 You could be, So why not give me a call? 109 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.079 Eight three three two, Ask Dean eight three three the 110 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:32.920 numeral two? Ask Dean eight three three two, Ask Dean. 111 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.040 Let's go to the phones. I want to talk to Tim. 112 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:38.040 Hey Tim, welcome. 113 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.560 Home, Hey Dean, how are you? 114 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.040 I am well, sir? How can I help you. 115 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:49.279 Well? Last year, on one of my horizontal patio beans, 116 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:52.560 I noticed a ball, like a water balloon behind the 117 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.000 paint and I cut it open. A lot of water 118 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.839 came out. The wood was very wet and rotted. I 119 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.600 removed all the bad wood, let it draw and I 120 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.879 used exterior spackle, sanded prime, and painted sain. Thing happened 121 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:05.639 again this year. 122 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.480 Yeah, so you're wondering what can you do? 123 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:17.720 Yeah, maybe spackle wasn't the idea or yeah, so okay, 124 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.240 fifteen ft beam, it's a. 125 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.519 How long is it? How long is it? 126 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:26.639 It's fifteen foot and it's ten by six, so replacing 127 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:27.759 it would be kind of hard. 128 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:29.000 Okay. 129 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.120 Now what are the members that are sitting on top 130 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:34.959 of it? 131 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:36.600 Also beams? 132 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:41.040 The vertical beams? 133 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:42.560 Uh? 134 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.879 Okay, so this is this is a This is the 135 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.240 beam out of the front edge of a patio cover. 136 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:54.319 It goes from the house out Yeah. 137 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:55.759 Oh, I got you, Okay, got you? Got you? 138 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.879 So those others that are tying into it, okay. That 139 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:01.759 that's the question I have. Did you guys build this 140 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:03.399 or is this just part of the house when you 141 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.560 bought it. 142 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:06.759 Part of the house when we bought it? 143 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.560 Okay, so you really don't know how it was originally constructed. 144 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.560 Here's the trick, my friend and I don't want to 145 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.600 bring you, you know, more difficult news. But okay, so 146 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:20.319 first of all, first of all, let's just address very 147 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:26.079 quickly the fixing of the rotten wood. I wouldn't use spackle, 148 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.439 I wouldn't use anything like that. What I would use 149 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.759 and use the same thing that the pros use, use 150 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:36.439 the same thing that a termite company would use. If 151 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:40.000 they came out and found termite ridden areas and dry 152 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.199 rot and so on. You're right. You dig out all 153 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.480 the stuff that's rotten, anything that's soft, You dig it 154 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.879 down until you hit hardwood again. And then what we 155 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:54.319 do is we rebuild it with Bondo. Okay, not spakle. 156 00:07:54.759 --> 00:08:00.560 Spackle is porous spackle will allow water to flow through it. Bondo, 157 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.759 like we're bondoing DNSE on a on a car and 158 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.600 literally that. And now Bondo in recent years has made 159 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.120 their own wood filler, and that's totally fine to use it. 160 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:12.560 You know, it's an epoxy. 161 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:15.240 You mix, you take out a glob of it and 162 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.519 you mix it with the the activator of the catalyst, 163 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:20.720 and then you've got so much time to get it 164 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.360 in there and make it work. But Bondo will replace 165 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.480 the missing wood with plastic essentially, and as a result, 166 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.000 it's a much much better patch for exterior wood and 167 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.240 so and it's standable and you can retexture it and 168 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.600 it's paintable and all of those good things. So Bondo 169 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:42.519 that's the key to restoring exterior wood. But here's my concern. 170 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:46.759 My concern is that perhaps this patio cover was done 171 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:51.720 like so many patio covers are, which is they built it. 172 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:55.120 They put all the raw wood out there, they put 173 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.320 that those beams out there, and then they built the 174 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:01.480 other stuff on top of it, those intersecting beams, and 175 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.799 then they painted it all, which was the wrong thing 176 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:10.279 to do when something like exterior wood is being built, 177 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:11.720 exterior wood structures. 178 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.480 What we want to do is we want to. 179 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.519 Make sure all of those pieces, all of the individual 180 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:21.679 pieces are primed at least primed, if not painted, before 181 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.679 we assemble them together, because what could very well be 182 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.120 the case is that right next to that pocket of 183 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:33.360 water that is forming underneath the paint, so moisture is 184 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:39.360 getting underneath the paint and bulging it out. Right next 185 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:42.559 to that pocket of water, you may have some other 186 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:46.559 wood connecting with that wood. And my guess is I'd say, 187 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:49.159 based on the way that most people build patio covers, 188 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:52.720 there's a ninety percent chance that underneath that connection in 189 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.639 that scene, it's just bare wood there, which means that 190 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.440 any little crack in the paint, any little you know, 191 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:06.360 any little opening at all, allows water to get in 192 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.159 and sit there and then find its way to you know, 193 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.399 a lower point and cause a problem, you know, a 194 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:16.559 few inches away or down below it. So here is 195 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.720 the thing bondo first, and if that solves your problem, great, 196 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.440 But if you still are encountering this, what you may 197 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:30.120 have to do is disconnect those intersecting pieces of wood 198 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.240 from that beam, not not take the whole thing apart, 199 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:38.519 but disconnect each one, lift it slightly and or slide 200 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:42.080 out that piece, and then get both surfaces, the end 201 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:45.919 of the intersecting wood and the beam where where it touches. 202 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.679 Get those surfaces at least primed, if not painted, so 203 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:54.080 that there's paint underneath all the joints, so that moisture 204 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.679 just doesn't have an easy way to get past the 205 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:58.720 paint and into the wood. 206 00:10:58.799 --> 00:10:59.480 Does that make sense? 207 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:01.519 Absolutely? 208 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.840 All right, my friend. That is my best advice for 209 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:09.679 you for that patio cover. And take note everyone who 210 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.159 has a wood patio cover, whether you built it or 211 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:16.919 somebody else built it. When we put together and normally 212 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:21.679 we don't pre paint, okay, but we will pre prime everything. 213 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.120 And that's a seiler in and of itself, and a 214 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.759 level of protection when we put together like a patio 215 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:30.799 cover structure or a pergola or anything like that, would 216 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:34.279 that's going to be painted sitting out exposed to the elements. 217 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:39.080 We inevitably will take all of the pieces, get them 218 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.840 all pre primed before we start lapping them on top 219 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.320 of each other. And that way we know at least 220 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:49.480 we have one layer, at least one layer of protection. 221 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.840 And then once those pieces go together, before we paint, 222 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.919 we calk all of those seams, calk them all so 223 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.960 that there's no opportunity for water to even at that. 224 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:03.879 After years and years and years, you might have something, 225 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.320 some level of intrusion, but that's the way you do 226 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.639 it right, and that way your paint holds longest, would 227 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.480 last the longest, and so on. I hope that makes 228 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.879 sense to y'all. All right, more of your calls when 229 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:19.639 we return your Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper 230 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:20.639 on KFI. 231 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.039 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 232 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:26.919 KFI AM six forty. 233 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.080 Dean Sharp, the House Whisper Here at your service, we 234 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.240 are doing an all calls Sunday morning, which means you 235 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.360 get to set the agenda about what the show is about. 236 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:42.000 You just give me a call and we'll put our 237 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.480 heads together and figure out what's going on. What's got 238 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.200 you scratch in your head, about your home. The number 239 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:51.039 to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean eight 240 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:54.679 three three the numeral two Ask Dean eight three three 241 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:59.320 two Ask Dean. It's just that simple. Give me a call, 242 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.559 producer Rich. You will tell you everything you need to know. 243 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.799 Pop you into the queue, and then we'll figure it out. 244 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.240 We will, and we're going to figure it out right now. 245 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.080 I want to go to Larry. Hey, Larry, welcome home. 246 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:16.240 Good morning Dean, Good morning, sir. How can I help you? 247 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:21.080 We just moved into a house here in San Clemente. 248 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:23.559 It was built in about two thousand and two, and 249 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:27.519 the backyard has a concrete patio about nine hundred square 250 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.200 feet and it's in pretty good shape. That has some 251 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.559 spider cracks and a few bigger cracks, none over a 252 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.600 sixteenth of an inch and none are uneven, so I 253 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:40.279 think those are repairable. But the surface is pretty discolored, 254 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.919 looks like there's some iron stains from pots, and then 255 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:49.519 it almost looks like a lichen type film that it 256 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:52.720 gives it sort of a sand color. So I'm looking 257 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:57.120 for your advice on options of how to resurface it 258 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:00.440 or make it look more desirable. And I've heard of 259 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:04.440 overlays and maybe paints, and I just know that you're 260 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.399 the guy to give me the advice on what we 261 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.279 might do to make it look better. 262 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.200 Ah well, you're very very kind. Okay, So. 263 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.679 A couple of things that a couple approaches that you 264 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:18.759 could take. Now, of course, you know I'm not visually 265 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.159 looking at it myself here, so it's not the easiest 266 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.039 thing for me to be able to give you. 267 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:26.360 Precise advice on. 268 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:28.039 Right. 269 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:33.679 However, given that I'll give you two strong I think 270 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:36.600 that are strong worthy suggestions, and in fact they might 271 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:42.720 actually combine together into one when it comes to two. 272 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:46.360 You know, rust stains, which can happen, by the way, 273 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.879 for a number of different reasons. It could happen simply 274 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:55.840 because of drainage. It can happen because something is rusting 275 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:01.759 somewhere or carrying you know, that oxide with it as 276 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.000 water flows off the roof and it settles on the 277 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.159 concrete and then it just kind of soaks in. And 278 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.639 the same with what looks like the lichen kind of structures. 279 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:17.480 And the problem is that these things are grabbing on 280 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:22.759 because concrete by nature is porous in it's finish, and 281 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:25.960 because of its porosity, they get a foothold, and they're 282 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.919 not just sitting on the surface. They're likely at least 283 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:32.840 a little bit under the surface as well. So that's, 284 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.200 you know, a hurdle that has to be overcome. Cracking, 285 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.919 you know, cracking is something that is gonna happen. And 286 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.799 if you've got spider cracking, then that's fine, no reason 287 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.799 to worry about that. You may not like the look 288 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.039 of it. If you've got anything that could be filled 289 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.960 at all, then you take a little epoxy crack filler 290 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.320 and fill that. But exterior concrete, I'm gonna ward you 291 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.600 away from paint just I'm not a big fan of 292 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:06.600 painting concrete period, just because water. It is a porous 293 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.279 material and water will get behind the paint and eventually 294 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:14.399 push the paint off from the backside. So when you 295 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.159 paint concrete, and you know there are people out there, 296 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.600 like listen, if you do the right things, it'll last 297 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:20.120 for a long time. 298 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:21.440 Well that's fine, that's fine. 299 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.840 I'm just saying you will be repainting it again, and 300 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.639 you're not gonna want to repaint the whole thing just 301 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.639 because a few flakes start to happen, which means then 302 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.919 you're going to be living with, you know, ugly concrete 303 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:38.039 for a while, until enough of it starts messing up 304 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:40.039 that you just like, all right, let's just redo the 305 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:45.159 whole thing again. Water gets behind surface concrete and will 306 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.000 push the paint out from the backside. So here's the thing. 307 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:55.679 Two things, your conditions with the rust deposits and maybe 308 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.600 the lichen like stuff that's more than just like a 309 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:03.600 surface stain. And so I wouldn't waste your time with 310 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.039 something like, oh, get some tri sodium phosphate, some TSP, 311 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.799 get out there and scrub it down and see if 312 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:12.839 you can't, you know, get that out. I'm thinking no, 313 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:17.119 I think that's probably a lost cause as far as 314 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.759 that goes. But here is the thing. Resurfacing that concrete 315 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.160 would be probably my first step. 316 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:25.880 And these days. 317 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.119 That's actually not that tough, especially for exterior patio stuff, 318 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:32.839 because you could run down to your local like a 319 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.839 home depot or a rental yard and rent for a 320 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:38.839 day to the tune of about I'm going to say 321 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:43.599 about a little under three hundred dollars a concrete resurfacing machine. 322 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.559 It's going to come in its own little trailer and 323 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:52.599 it rolls out and it's about as easy to operate honestly, 324 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.079 as like a floor waxer. It's heavy, but it's sitting 325 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.880 on big wheels, and it's got a resurfacing diamond a disc, 326 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.240 and you just kind of swish it back and forth, 327 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:08.720 and you can take that top layer of concrete. We 328 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.720 use these all the time to resurface, really, I mean 329 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:17.240 grease ridden, messed up, unevenly cracked garage slabs in order 330 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.000 to prepare them for epoxy coatings and all this kind 331 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:25.000 of stuff. So resurfacing your concrete out there could number one, 332 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:29.160 bring all of its texture to uniformity, will very very 333 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:33.759 likely get past the lichen growth and the rust stains, 334 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:39.200 and leave you with now a pretty fresh concrete surface 335 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:41.359 with some cracking in it that you could patch with 336 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.799 some epoxy. Then if you wanted to, and if for 337 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.400 some reason they're still modeling and splotching in the concrete, 338 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.559 which I wouldn't be surprised if there were, because it's 339 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.119 exterior concrete and that tends to happen, then I would 340 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.359 suggest that you approach the concrete at least invest the gate. 341 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:05.279 Approaching it from a staining perspective, to stain concrete is 342 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.000 essentially to do what the lichen and the rust has 343 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.960 already done, which is to introduce it into the porosity 344 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:15.880 of the concrete. Stains last a lot longer. They are 345 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.720 not a surface coating. Therefore, water inside the concrete won't 346 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:22.920 push them out and ruin that finish. It'll be a 347 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.200 modeled kind of finish. The concrete will take it unevenly. 348 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:28.440 But that's actually the look that most people who are 349 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.960 staining their concrete are looking for anyway. And the cool 350 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:35.079 thing about that is that it hides the modeling and 351 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:38.079 the stains that are already there, just sort of incorporates 352 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:43.759 it into a general sort of stylistically modeled effect, and 353 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.880 it will eventually fade from UV light and you will 354 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:53.279 redo it again at some point, but way way longer 355 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.200 down the road than if you paint it. And so 356 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.119 that would be that'd be my first guess. 357 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:02.480 And should I have someone do that? In other words, 358 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:06.400 I'm I'm okay, DYI, but this sounds a little over 359 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.119 my head. How do I find someone? 360 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:09.480 Uh? 361 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:14.440 You could talk to any concrete restoration company or just 362 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.519 a concrete person in general, and uh, and they could 363 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.559 give you a price for doing exactly that. And yeah, 364 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.400 I wouldn't do the staining myself, unless you're just like 365 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.799 gung ho full on into it, because there's a there's 366 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.119 a bit of an art form to doing it. But 367 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:30.599 but I think that's an approach that whether you do 368 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.839 it yourself or whether you hire somebody, I think you'll 369 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:36.599 be pleased with the way that you'll restore. 370 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.079 That concrete, right, Because if I try to put an overlay, 371 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:43.200 A lot of people are selling that idea that's, you know, 372 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:47.039 another surface of like applied concrete on top and then 373 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.839 they stamp it. I don't know, it just doesn't sound 374 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:50.599 like a good idea. 375 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.400 I am not in favor of that, I really and 376 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:56.119 and there are companies I know that swear that, oh 377 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.519 we'll do it and it'll last. But uh, I don't 378 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.039 like stamp concrete to begin with. And I don't like 379 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.759 the idea of overlaying concrete onto concrete. It's what we 380 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:10.960 call a cold joint, meaning that there's a it's a 381 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.039 very very difficult bonding process. And in my opinion, because 382 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.680 I've seen a lot of overlay patios down the line, 383 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.079 they fail. They just fail. I'm not a favorite. I 384 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:27.160 would rather try and integrate the existing concrete into a 385 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:32.319 color and a style that you find acceptable, then try 386 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:33.480 and put an overlay on top. 387 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.039 I love it, Sean, thank you so much. You saved 388 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:40.160 me tons of ours. Thank you so much again. 389 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:42.880 Oh my gosh, Larry, thank you for the call and 390 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.319 for the praise, my friend. Keep listening and I very 391 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:47.079 much appreciate it. 392 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:48.880 All right. You see, you see what happens here on 393 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:50.079 the program, give me a call. 394 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:54.279 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 395 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:55.920 KFI AM six forty. 396 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:02.759 Welcome to Home. This is our little program on Sunday mornings. 397 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:06.799 Right here the we are having an all Calls Sunday morning, 398 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.759 which is one of my favorite shows to do. No, 399 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:15.759 it's not because I don't have to prepare. No, well, 400 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.480 I don't have to prepare, but that's not why it's 401 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:20.960