Speaker 1: You've created everything. What's put a powerful being?
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 1: You did these things, but now you're in a human body.
Speaker 3: You forget the power you have.
Speaker 4: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 4: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 4: something the whole universe is doing in the same way
Speaker 4: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 1: Doing doing what. Welcome to metamistics where you don't know
Speaker 1: what you don't know? I forgot the other intro. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. This is the live show. My name
Speaker 1: is Jonathan, I'm Sean, and this is wonder Wizday. We
Speaker 1: have a very special guest tonight, Destiny aka Zevich, not
Speaker 1: to be confused with a B. That's A that's a
Speaker 1: double V. Yeah. So Destiny, you are somebody that actually
Speaker 1: like you're one of the first, uh really deeper spiritual
Speaker 1: kind of witchy taro wee people that I've ever really
Speaker 1: been accompanied with. And you gave me like a crazy
Speaker 1: tarot reading, like I don't know, it was like four
Speaker 1: or five years probably five years ago now, and.
Speaker 5: That past that kind of trips me out a little bit.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Yeah, it's like and it's one
Speaker 1: of it was one of those that really has stuck
Speaker 1: with me to this day and you know, really really insightful.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you're the best. That's why we wanted
Speaker 1: to have you on and it's been far too long.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, but tonight's the night, right right.
Speaker 3: Well, we're glad we finally got you on here. And
Speaker 3: also we have doctor Evil in the chat. It looks
Speaker 3: like or not in the chat, I'm sorry, but in
Speaker 3: the in the live here shout out, shout, white.
Speaker 1: Boy wizard said, I need me a witch. Hopefully there's
Speaker 1: a witch who needs a white boy wizard out there somewhere.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm almost certain of it. Yeah, I find you.
Speaker 2: Mind you some crystals up along the sidewalk, you'll catch one.
Speaker 3: I got plenty of them. I got plenty of them
Speaker 3: and putting them out tomorrow.
Speaker 2: First thing, catch me a little witch, you know, shake
Speaker 2: some herbs and a and a and a jar. She'll come.
Speaker 1: She'll be there if I'm not waking up to the
Speaker 1: smell of sage burning. So uh anyhow, Yeah, I mean, destiny,
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, what really got you into this?
Speaker 1: Especially living down in the Deep South, Just like I'm sure,
Speaker 1: you were kind of a you know, a black sheep
Speaker 1: of your time around your people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Everybody thought I was worshiping Satan and what I'm like, No,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in him, but okay, but whatever I have,
Speaker 2: it's a complex belief system that I have.
Speaker 5: Like it's really crazy, but like what got.
Speaker 2: Me into it initially, Like so my mom used to practice,
Speaker 2: but she doesn't do that anymore. She kind of reverted
Speaker 2: back to religion. But so I always like believed in it, right,
Speaker 2: And I did practice, like I said, when I was younger,
Speaker 2: but I was young and I didn't really have anybody
Speaker 2: to properly teach me because I wasn't going through my
Speaker 2: mom to learn like I was.
Speaker 5: She was the inspiration behind it.
Speaker 2: But whenever it was like I had a friend of
Speaker 2: mine that I had been known for ten years or so,
Speaker 2: and and we kind of like reconnected.
Speaker 5: On Facebook and we got close.
Speaker 2: We went on a date and he ended up dying
Speaker 2: like two weeks after that, and that kind of like
Speaker 2: like shifted the gear, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: it really it really like set the tone the mood
Speaker 2: for grief will do a lot to you, and and
Speaker 2: things were happening around me that I just could not explain.
Speaker 2: I'm like, the grippy socks, that's what's coming for me.
Speaker 2: I see that in my future. I'm not a psychic
Speaker 2: at the time, but that I was like, I see
Speaker 2: the grippy socks, the good meds in a white bouncy
Speaker 2: room is coming for me. And I was telling my
Speaker 2: friend about it and whatever, because it just I was
Speaker 2: experiencing a lot of stuff that involved the guy who died,
Speaker 2: and I kind of swan dived after that. I ended
Speaker 2: up meeting a psychic a month to the day after
Speaker 2: his death and she confirmed everything. She was like, so like, okay,
Speaker 2: so this has vividly if burned in my brain and
Speaker 2: I haven't recorded on a memo on my iPad. I
Speaker 2: had told my friend Shelby in confidence and in like privacy.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I hear him.
Speaker 5: I hear him.
Speaker 2: I hear him a lot. And it's not like like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's probably the grief talking. No, like I'm reacting to him,
Speaker 2: but it's in here. And I'm like, not sure how
Speaker 2: I didn't understand, and she had her eyes closed. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: I'm in the session. I'm like staring at her. But
Speaker 2: I have Shelby or I have like both of them
Speaker 2: kind of in peripheral when I'm going back and forth.
Speaker 2: But I'm like mouthing to her because my ear started ringing,
Speaker 2: and I'm right afterwards, I had gotten like goosebumps, like
Speaker 2: the biggest goosebumps I've ever had, and I was like, Shelby,
Speaker 2: you know, mouthing to her. I'm like, I can hear
Speaker 2: the ringing again, you know. And she the medium Leanne,
Speaker 2: She's great by the way she reacted in real time.
Speaker 2: She goes, oh, that's that's him. He says, that's me
Speaker 2: talking in your ear. I'm like, hey, like I'm getting
Speaker 2: chilled now. And then the goosebumps happened, and I did
Speaker 2: the same thing. I'm like, Shelby, look, and she goes,
Speaker 2: real time I'm watching her, She's like that he says
Speaker 2: that to me, that's me touching you. And I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: Like she's it's real, it's all really, it's real.
Speaker 5: Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: We're panicking, but this is like a good panic, you know.
Speaker 2: And after that, I kind of just when I tell you,
Speaker 2: not only did I deep dive down this rabbit hole,
Speaker 2: I became the rabbit hole, Like I'm one with that
Speaker 2: rabbit hole, and I just kind of went in ever since,
Speaker 2: and I began to experience a lot of things, working
Speaker 2: with the with the craft and experiencing it, working manifestation,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it's like it's crazy to me.
Speaker 2: It's like I can understand why people think it's not
Speaker 2: real because that's how we were born, and like we
Speaker 2: were born to believe or force fed the information that oh,
Speaker 2: it's not real, it's make believe. It's only stuff in
Speaker 2: like Hollywood. But that's what they want you to think,
Speaker 2: because if you're too powerful, then how can they control you?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that's my and that's
Speaker 1: and that's you know, growing up and I would you know,
Speaker 1: see magical shows like Harry Potter or you know, justgical
Speaker 1: kind of stuff like that, and uh, you would always
Speaker 1: see magic coming out of the magician's wand or some
Speaker 1: kind of bolts of lightning or some energy that is
Speaker 1: very clear, and I was always awesome colors and everything,
Speaker 1: and clearly that wasn't real, but you wanted it to
Speaker 1: be real, you know.
Speaker 2: No kind of like okay, and people can laugh at
Speaker 2: me all they want for this.
Speaker 5: It's not like that.
Speaker 2: But I have seen orbs of color fly out of
Speaker 2: my hand before, really and yeah, like I didn't catch
Speaker 2: the actual orbs on video, but I caught my reaction
Speaker 2: and it's on my TikTok. Actually, but my boyfriend he
Speaker 2: said that he was coming home from work one night
Speaker 2: when we were living I don't remember where we were
Speaker 2: living at, but he said he came in and he
Speaker 2: saw two colors orbs I think orange and purple fly
Speaker 2: out of my head into the TV. It was weird.
Speaker 5: Like, so it's it's not off.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, yeah, yeah, I mean it's just not as
Speaker 1: fantastic coal to the eyes for the most part, is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. It's it's not to say that, right,
Speaker 1: it's not to say that it's not happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: fox sake, we only have you know, access to point
Speaker 1: zero zero zero three percent of the light spectrum or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, so very well could be that shit
Speaker 1: is coming out of wands and out of hands and
Speaker 1: out of heads and all that kind of stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: But that's just the physical makeup of it.
Speaker 2: It's like more than stuff. But unfortunately, in this prison planet.
Speaker 5: We don't get that kind of luxury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean look, you really fascinated me with
Speaker 1: your ability to uh to look at tarot cards oracle
Speaker 1: cards and really just get like an amazing message and
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, like how did you start to
Speaker 1: learn about the tarot cards? Like what was it? I mean,
Speaker 1: like did you just do it? Like most people like
Speaker 1: cups means emotions because it's water and you know sword
Speaker 1: equals wind, you know what I mean? Like what was
Speaker 1: your Like how did you get it?
Speaker 5: So I don't learn like normal people do.
Speaker 2: I cannot sit down and study something and it stick
Speaker 2: in my head. Like I'm a kinesthetic learner, but.
Speaker 5: I like to use other ways and tools to.
Speaker 4: Learn.
Speaker 2: So my best learn And this is probably so scorpio
Speaker 2: coded for my like life, but I'm an learn by
Speaker 2: experience kind of person, like I.
Speaker 5: Need to like hands on, like go through it.
Speaker 2: So I kind of would do it as I went,
Speaker 2: and the more I did it, the more I was
Speaker 2: you know, it was sticking, you know. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this means this and oh you know, let me check
Speaker 2: my book and I want to I want to preface that,
Speaker 2: I'm want to add this like side note, that's so
Speaker 2: freaking important, Like whoever wants to learn terot, like because
Speaker 2: everybody has the ability to learn tarot. Because I used
Speaker 2: to be fascinated with terror readers. I'm like, how do
Speaker 2: they do it? Psychics too, how did they do it?
Speaker 2: And like I still to this day, I've been reading
Speaker 2: for what five years now, and I still sometimes have
Speaker 2: to reference my book because I'll have a brain fart
Speaker 2: because high human, you know, like I have like my flaws.
Speaker 2: But like for the most part, it's it's over time.
Speaker 2: It just kind of starts sticking with you. But you
Speaker 2: have to like understand like that you are like in
Speaker 2: sync with your Tarot cards, like that that spirit, you know,
Speaker 2: using this divination tool to guide you with these answers.
Speaker 2: So not second guessing yourself is probably like major because
Speaker 2: I'm the worst that second guessing, Like I will overthink.
Speaker 2: But they don't want you to do that. So once
Speaker 2: you kind of get that down on top of like
Speaker 2: just picking it up as you go.
Speaker 5: However it works for you to learn, then run with that.
Speaker 2: Don't let anybody tell you the probit like this is
Speaker 2: the only way to do it, because then one they're
Speaker 2: not really in the right confines of spirituality. That's not
Speaker 2: the point. You don't shame people for how they learn
Speaker 2: how to use divination tools. And also with the with
Speaker 2: the with the myth of this is the myth of
Speaker 2: you can't buy your own tarot cards is bs by
Speaker 2: the way, because if you don't have anybody else to
Speaker 2: buy them for you, I'm a spoil myself. Let me
Speaker 2: gets if you are not vibing with that deck, then
Speaker 2: it's not gonna it's not you gotta fill follow the
Speaker 2: vibe and stuff. You just go with the flow. The
Speaker 2: kids practice, but it works for.
Speaker 3: The It's not like you could force somebody into gifting
Speaker 3: them to you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I wouldn't recommend putting like twisting their
Speaker 2: arm or putting a pew pew to their head or anything.
Speaker 2: But you can insist, like and be like, what do
Speaker 2: you want for Christmas? Well? Uh, you know a deck
Speaker 2: would be nice, this deck particularly, like because I'm picky
Speaker 2: with my tarot. I'm very picky with my taro deck.
Speaker 1: What deck do you use? Actually, I use.
Speaker 2: The Witch's Tarot, my favorite deck. Actually, can see how
Speaker 2: worn it is, like it's falling apart. Even the cards
Speaker 2: are falling apart, and I used to have the pocket
Speaker 2: deck and it got lost and like the many times
Speaker 2: that I've moved, but I want to get like another
Speaker 2: pocket deck because like I have like problems with my
Speaker 2: hands sometimes, so if it's like a lot that I
Speaker 2: have to hold, it'll hurt my hands.
Speaker 5: So pocket deck is like perfect, awesome.
Speaker 3: Well we do a Tarot card reading, no, and it's
Speaker 3: just a one card pool, but maybe you can do
Speaker 3: that for us tonight at the end of the show.
Speaker 3: That'd be freaking awesome.
Speaker 5: What I'm expecting to like.
Speaker 1: The floor will be yours, right he yeah, yeah, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's so awesome too, because they usually
Speaker 1: sink right up with the show, like every single time.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we'll do a Tarot reading at
Speaker 1: the end of every show and it is spot fucking
Speaker 1: on every time, and you're like, what is really going on?
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, like I don't believe in we're coming
Speaker 1: up on episode three hundred already, Sean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 3: Know, I was not aware of this. Yeah, we got like.
Speaker 1: Five more episodes. We got like five more episodes till
Speaker 1: three hundred and it's like, you know, we've done damn
Speaker 1: near three or till three hundred. Rather, it's like, we
Speaker 1: got five more episodes until we've done this three hundred times,
Speaker 1: you know, And every and every single reading is always
Speaker 1: some are more on than others, Like some of them
Speaker 1: are more like, oh my god, you know, my mind
Speaker 1: absolutely blown. But usually they're all pretty much in sync.
Speaker 1: And so how many times does it need to be
Speaker 1: a coincidence for you to start to believe in it?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: It's kind of one of those things.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts as far as that goes, as
Speaker 3: far as like how how do you think the taro
Speaker 3: is working? Is it your inner world reflecting into the
Speaker 3: outer world? Like what are your thoughts on that? As
Speaker 3: far as being able to pull up a reading and
Speaker 3: kind of get some good information off of it.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it kind of depends on the person's
Speaker 2: like I don't know, Like that's a really good question, actually,
Speaker 2: and so I guess it would depend on one. The
Speaker 2: police system really does help, but it's like, okay, there
Speaker 2: we go. It's also what somebody is willing to admit
Speaker 2: about themselves or what's going on in their life. Because
Speaker 2: I've had people where I've done readings and I've I'm
Speaker 2: so confident in my readings because I really I very
Speaker 2: rarely miss, and when I miss, it's always because they're
Speaker 2: not admitting to something that's really going on or something
Speaker 2: shifted in the timeline, which is why I always put
Speaker 2: that in my spiel that you have free will, you
Speaker 2: have the option to change how your fate's gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: play out, And so I mean so it could change
Speaker 2: and it may not come to fruition. But as far
Speaker 2: as the trajectory goes from what I'm reading in current Energy,
Speaker 2: this is the path that's headed. So if you don't
Speaker 2: like it, then change it. But if somebody doesn't want
Speaker 2: to admit what's going on in their life, like it's
Speaker 2: a big thing. So for example, I wrote, I read
Speaker 2: for a friend and I love her pieces. This is
Speaker 2: no shade on her, but I and like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm very confident in my readings. So if I'm telling
Speaker 2: you like this is what's going on, and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: everything's fine, I'm like no, no, no, no, this is going on.
Speaker 2: Spirits very loud about it. I've pulled on it, I
Speaker 2: can pull again. The same cards are going to pull
Speaker 2: like regardless, spirit will scream it at you a thousand
Speaker 2: times if you choose to listen. That's only you. But
Speaker 2: don't complain if you're not listening and you know you're
Speaker 2: getting the same results and stuff like that, but you're
Speaker 2: refusing to acknowledge the problem and fixing the problem. So
Speaker 2: I was pulling three of swords, which is typically the
Speaker 2: heartbreak card cheating, and I was like, I hate to
Speaker 2: say this, but your husband's like not being faithful to you.
Speaker 2: And there's another woman and the other woman is scary.
Speaker 2: She wants to be you. It's dare I say, damn,
Speaker 2: near want to be like in your meat suit, want
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 5: You, like because you have. Yeah, it was scary, Like
Speaker 5: you need to watch out. I don't know who this
Speaker 5: woman is.
Speaker 2: You may not know her. She you might know her,
Speaker 2: but you don't know like how well she knows you,
Speaker 2: you know. And she's she wants the title of wife.
Speaker 2: She wants to be you because she finds you to
Speaker 2: be prettier than her. She finds you attractive. She wants
Speaker 2: to embody your essence, So watch out for destiny swapping,
Speaker 2: you know, like, so be careful. But she's like, no,
Speaker 2: me and my husband are good. He would never I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: like I'll do another reading for you, but like I'll
Speaker 2: ask for different information. But if Spirit presses on about it,
Speaker 2: I can't, you know, I can't tell Spirit like this
Speaker 2: is not what they want to talk about, because I've
Speaker 2: had instances where I'm like, Spirit, could we not bring
Speaker 2: this up because that's not what I want to do.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the middle of this.
Speaker 2: It's too close to home, like neighbors or something. They're like,
Speaker 2: we don't give it, like you're a swords like cheating, cheating, cheating,
Speaker 2: and this is with somebody you know, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I can see, like as you were saying,
Speaker 3: as far as like people denying something, you know, I
Speaker 3: can understand that if it's like something to do with themselves,
Speaker 3: you know, whether it's their shadow that they're they're kind
Speaker 3: of not really wanting to deal with at the moment,
Speaker 3: and if they only dealt with the shadow, then they
Speaker 3: can prevent whatever thing you're trying to tell them. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to you telling them about somebody else,
Speaker 3: it's like there's nothing they can do to prevent that
Speaker 3: from happening. I would think, you know, they'll.
Speaker 2: Have an equal problem with both, especially within themselves, but
Speaker 2: especially somebody they don't want to see as like.
Speaker 5: Oh, this person would never hurt me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, clearly you've never been hurt enough like to
Speaker 2: realize that anybody will hurt you, you know, So it's
Speaker 2: mainly the ones.
Speaker 5: Closest to you that'll do it.
Speaker 2: So it's like I hate to be the bearer of
Speaker 2: bad news, but it's literally my purpose and my job
Speaker 2: to be the messenger, you know, regardless of what the
Speaker 2: message is. But it's for your growth. It's part of
Speaker 2: your spiritual contract and if you want to if you
Speaker 2: want to continue the karmic loop, that's on you.
Speaker 5: That's why free will is a thing.
Speaker 1: What's so interesting about that is, though, is that how
Speaker 1: you were able to look at a couple of paper
Speaker 1: cards and determine that her husband was cheating on her
Speaker 1: and be right about it, like just out of curiosity,
Speaker 1: Like what cards? Would you know? If you got that
Speaker 1: kind of reading? You said that there was like swords mentioned,
Speaker 1: and that's usually in that direction.
Speaker 2: So if I'm doing taro, and especially if it's like
Speaker 2: it can be one card as simple as just the
Speaker 2: three of Swords, but if there's like a combination of
Speaker 2: cards like three of Swords, tennis swords, the Lover's reverse,
Speaker 2: two of Cups reverse.
Speaker 5: I know I'm missing a couple here.
Speaker 2: If you have like maybe any of the Kings, especially
Speaker 2: like the King of Wands in reverse and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: or the Night of Wands, that's typically like player f
Speaker 2: boy energy, like all the Nights are very immature energy.
Speaker 2: Or if they pop up and then another combo pops up,
Speaker 2: Like when I was rooting for a potential pregnancy at
Speaker 2: some point for actually myself, all the cards for pregnancy
Speaker 2: came out, and in my book it says, if, oh,
Speaker 2: what is it if the Empress obviously the Empress pops out,
Speaker 2: she's pregnant. But it doesn't always have to mean a
Speaker 2: child now, But if if like two of the aces
Speaker 2: pop out, was it the Ace of Wands and the
Speaker 2: Ace of Cups pop out together, and the four ones
Speaker 2: pop out together, you're pregnant, like baby, there's no there's
Speaker 2: no evans of but there's a child coming. And I
Speaker 2: actually had a pregnancy scare and I had like it
Speaker 2: was weird, like I was pregnant, but like it was
Speaker 2: more like the baby was trying to come in energetically
Speaker 2: and prepare me to be pregnant because I was having
Speaker 2: all the symptoms. My you know, cycle was acting up
Speaker 2: and I was genuinely having pregnancy symptoms, and I was
Speaker 2: in denial. I was like, I'm not pregnant. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be pregnant. No, thank you, like I'm good,
Speaker 2: I'll pass, like I'm good. The swerve on it like
Speaker 2: you know, double it and give it to the next person,
Speaker 2: like I'm good. I don't. But and then they were
Speaker 2: it was a spearbox was telling me I was pregnant.
Speaker 2: They were like, you're pregnant, You're pregnant, You're pregnant. I
Speaker 2: had my boyfriend under estes and he was like, you're pregnant.
Speaker 2: They said that loud, and they were like you're having
Speaker 2: a son. Da da da dah. Like it was getting real.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god. I was making appointments.
Speaker 2: But I even had a positive is pregnant, Like it
Speaker 2: was a bank positive, but it was a positive pregnancy test.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I've never done that before. I've
Speaker 2: had scares instantly negative. This one was positive, and I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, so this might be real. And I
Speaker 2: went to the doctor's appointment like, oh, I waited a
Speaker 2: little longer than I probably should have just because everything
Speaker 2: was so weird, and I ended up not being pregnant
Speaker 2: in the long run, and spirits like we had to.
Speaker 5: You know, he renegotiated.
Speaker 2: I know it's going to sound crazy to some people,
Speaker 2: but he renegotiated his contract because of the timing wasn't right.
Speaker 2: Y'all have to be in a different like, not only mindset,
Speaker 2: but things need to be more peaceful in your life
Speaker 2: because when the kids and I'm like plural, which are
Speaker 2: the kids, So it's supposed to be a boy and
Speaker 2: then a girl, but they have to come in and
Speaker 2: it's going to be a time of peace, not chaos.
Speaker 5: So the timing was wrong.
Speaker 2: Wow, And my period is still acting up like my
Speaker 2: normally and I'm not trying to get too into it,
Speaker 2: but it does make.
Speaker 5: A lot of the story.
Speaker 2: My cycle has always been set same thing since I.
Speaker 2: You know, it regulated at a certain age where it
Speaker 2: was normal, like a normal set, and then going from there,
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, five days, heavy, painful, got
Speaker 2: it now it's three days and it was very light
Speaker 2: like period period home funny, but and but now it's
Speaker 2: still at three day. So it literally was energetic enough
Speaker 2: so heavily that it knocked my cycle into a weird flow,
Speaker 2: like it was so weird.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I would be we would not be
Speaker 1: talking to a witch if we were not talking about
Speaker 1: blood magic. You know what I'm saying. It's just gonna
Speaker 1: have to go there right.
Speaker 2: Oh and that's crazy too bringing that up. You know
Speaker 2: people when they do blood magic and they'll have to
Speaker 2: take it, you know, for the painful way. Why that's
Speaker 2: actually more low vibrational because there's pain involved in a
Speaker 2: sense you're forcing that pain. What I have to go
Speaker 2: through is natural. Is it painful? Yes, but it's just expected.
Speaker 2: Now that's natural blood coming out. It's more high vibrational
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and I've gotten confirmation on it. Like
Speaker 2: it's more potent magically to use a woman's but you
Speaker 2: have to obviously have her consent. You know, if you
Speaker 2: take it from her, that's not gonna work well for you.
Speaker 2: But but like if she's willingly given it to you
Speaker 2: or using it in her workings and stuff, like very
Speaker 2: very potent magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine just I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: I would imagine that you would have to have an
Speaker 1: agreement there if you're going to be working. Let's say
Speaker 1: I don't know you your boyfriend. Let's say you guys
Speaker 1: decide to get a little weird with some blood magic
Speaker 1: or whatever, but your boyfriend takes it from you and
Speaker 1: you don't know about it, or takes it against your will.
Speaker 1: Just a hypothetical situation. I would imagine that, like somewhere
Speaker 1: along the lines, maybe quantum entanglely, that that substance would
Speaker 1: not work as well in a in a magical spell, right, like.
Speaker 2: A kickback, it would be your you could have you
Speaker 2: want your your your magic to go this way, your
Speaker 2: intent to go this way.
Speaker 5: It's going to go this way. It's either not gonna work.
Speaker 2: But I think if you're choosing blood magic, you're going
Speaker 2: to get a response, so karma essentially, but it's gonna
Speaker 2: go like astray. So kind of like how I feel like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm us Well, I guess spirits
Speaker 2: like making me use this excuse because they want the
Speaker 2: message out there too, but they're like doing a love spell, right.
Speaker 2: I will never recommend anyone doing a love spell, because
Speaker 2: you're messing with somebody's free will, Like that's not okay.
Speaker 5: And if anybody's.
Speaker 2: Seeing the craft and they know, like how Sarah did
Speaker 2: that and that guy and he went psychowner and was obsessed,
Speaker 2: Like that's what you're gonna get. But what I recommend
Speaker 2: to a soulmate spell to find your soulmate that brings
Speaker 2: them to you instead of you efing around with somebody's
Speaker 2: free will.
Speaker 3: So that was gonna end up with you anyways. You
Speaker 3: know the process.
Speaker 2: Supposed to like will work your way to meet your soulmate,
Speaker 2: because not everybody's going to meet their soulmate in this
Speaker 2: lifetime because they choose to stay in their shadow side.
Speaker 5: They choose to not.
Speaker 2: Heal so or do the work to get there. Like
Speaker 2: if you stay in a toxic relationship and you refuse
Speaker 2: to leave that relationship, how are.
Speaker 5: You ever gonna meet your soulmate? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Now, Spirit wants you to be with that person, and
Speaker 2: there's a like like a purpose and just shit needs
Speaker 2: to be done in this in this realm and this
Speaker 2: time we need this to shift forward so this baby
Speaker 2: can be born and this can happen. Then we're gonna
Speaker 2: split them apart on like whether she likes it or not,
Speaker 2: divine intervention and we're gonna make her leave this person
Speaker 2: so we can move things along. We've got shit to do,
Speaker 2: like like you know what I'm saying. So some people's
Speaker 2: purpose is I don't want to stay grander than others.
Speaker 2: Some people just have a different vibration. I guess is
Speaker 2: a good way to put it. Of purpose.
Speaker 5: That's more. I'm trying to say it without saying like
Speaker 5: it's not more.
Speaker 2: Important, but it's impact impactful. I guess it's energetically this
Speaker 2: needs to be done like now, So it's it's not
Speaker 2: something that can be put on the back burner.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, these things need to
Speaker 5: be done. This is on. This is a musk too.
Speaker 5: We have a timeframe.
Speaker 3: We have time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if we need the greater good to happen
Speaker 2: or this to flow the right way, then this needs
Speaker 2: to we need to shut it down. So if spirit
Speaker 2: wants you away from that person, they'll rip it apart,
Speaker 2: they'll neow the bridge. You're not returning back.
Speaker 1: To that dude. I'll tell you what I did a
Speaker 1: little I did a little love spell once upon a time,
Speaker 1: and uh, I would be honest with you. I I
Speaker 1: thought that it didn't work. It was actually Uh we
Speaker 1: did a money Spell episode and it worked literally overnight.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, right and and then like it was
Speaker 1: like the episode after that, or a couple episodes after that,
Speaker 1: we did a love Spell episode, right, and and I
Speaker 1: ended up doing a love Spell. And I followed all
Speaker 1: the steps I set my intention. I meditated on the
Speaker 1: on the I think I put it inside of a bowl.
Speaker 1: It's like usually some sugar, some water and some other
Speaker 1: things that you put it up on a windowsill whatever, right,
Speaker 1: And and I left that. I left that bowl up
Speaker 1: on that window sill for I think like three months
Speaker 1: because I'm like, all right, if I empty it out,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work, so lo and behold I go
Speaker 1: and uh. I went to go empty it because I
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't gonna happen. You know, if it
Speaker 1: was going to happen, it would have happened already. It's
Speaker 1: been up there for three four months now.
Speaker 2: Whatever it emptying is what set it off because you
Speaker 2: let it out.
Speaker 1: Well, it was literally like two months after I emptied
Speaker 1: it emptied it out that that person came around.
Speaker 2: And so that's because when you had it in the jar.
Speaker 2: You were holding it in. Oh, you were containing that spell.
Speaker 2: When you released it and give it back to the earth,
Speaker 2: then it's able to grow. And you know, it's like
Speaker 2: planning a seed into the earth and letting it grow.
Speaker 2: But if you keep that seat in a jar, is
Speaker 2: it going to grow? No, it's not gonna grow.
Speaker 1: Not very fruitful. Yeah. Well, I will then just to
Speaker 1: just to say that I like to agree with you
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be doing love spells because that wasn't
Speaker 1: what I was hoping to happen, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into detail or anything, but uh,
Speaker 1: there was no happy enemy.
Speaker 2: It should not be like what you were hope like
Speaker 2: what you were intending it for it to be.
Speaker 5: Was it more toxic?
Speaker 1: It was pretty toxic. Yeah, I mean, and I think
Speaker 1: that most people in your minds, like you're always going
Speaker 1: to imagine some kind of fantastical version of reality, especially
Speaker 1: you know, if you're in love and you're hoping that
Speaker 1: love works out, and it's like, like, not to sound
Speaker 1: lame or whatever, but I've been watching Love is Blind
Speaker 1: and man like, of course that shit's never going to work.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying it's like it's just so
Speaker 1: funny seen it.
Speaker 5: But I imagine I agree. I'll agree with you though.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but but yeah, I think that there are
Speaker 1: definitely some spells out there that absolutely work though, Like
Speaker 1: that money spell absolutely worked, and I think that, I mean,
Speaker 1: sex magic definitely works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Like, oh, what I will recommend if you're
Speaker 2: going to do the love spell, do it for yourself.
Speaker 2: Good idea, a love spell for you, you know, so
Speaker 2: self exactly, because that's another way that'll bring you to
Speaker 2: your person is like pouring that back into yourself. Because
Speaker 2: like if you if your mental health is not in
Speaker 2: the right like headspace, if you're not you know, if
Speaker 2: you don't have self confidence, then you don't love yourself
Speaker 2: and you're not showing yourself that you're the baddest bitch
Speaker 2: on the block, you know, then you deserve like top
Speaker 2: quality love. Then you're only gonna find spouses that treat
Speaker 2: you the way that you feel about yourself. So it
Speaker 2: reflects it manifests, like people don't realize how they manifest
Speaker 2: on a regular basis in or everything we do is
Speaker 2: spell work.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, everything just.
Speaker 5: Speaking is spell work.
Speaker 2: Like I learned the other day about how there's certain
Speaker 2: ways that like, like the English lan I had like
Speaker 2: this put together and it was Dakota, my boyfriend. He
Speaker 2: showed me something, this guy about how we speak, like
Speaker 2: if we intake.
Speaker 5: Certain words are more light than the hard words.
Speaker 2: So you know how, And this is no offense to
Speaker 2: anybody that lives up north, so don't take offense.
Speaker 5: Sorry, guys, I love y'all.
Speaker 2: But you know how they have that really like horr
Speaker 2: tone and it's very like short, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: It's just harsh, harsh tone. Well, I figured and I
Speaker 2: put all this together at some point that the way
Speaker 2: that the English language was set up. You know how,
Speaker 2: if you take someone from a foreign country and you
Speaker 2: translate into English, it sounds very old world, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. So then you add our English language,
Speaker 2: which kind of like puts these like negative like pieces
Speaker 2: in it. So the universe does not clock what you're doing.
Speaker 2: So you can say, oh, I don't want this to happen,
Speaker 2: and the universe heard everything, but that one word that
Speaker 2: flips it on its head.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: So instead of what you're manifesting, you get the opposite
Speaker 2: because the universe didn't catch that one word that you use.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact like like details of it.
Speaker 2: But so the Southern draw we we we kind of
Speaker 2: like have this more flow with it. So that's how
Speaker 2: it's manifesting, but that the English language is pretty much
Speaker 2: like stop.
Speaker 3: Stop right, not allowing it to resonate properly.
Speaker 2: Basically, It's crazy how when you speak it's spelling for
Speaker 2: a reason, it's spell work. It's manifesting, putting it into
Speaker 2: the universe, saying it out loud, calling it what is it?
Speaker 5: Speaking it into existence?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just calling shot at that point. And I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, just out of curiosity, just to
Speaker 1: throw this out there, because I know that there's going
Speaker 1: to be people that listen, because we post these episodes
Speaker 1: on the Cult of Conspiracy too, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of religious people that listen over there. So just to
Speaker 1: throw it out there. Uh, whenever you're doing any kind
Speaker 1: of magic or terror reading or divining, or whenever you're
Speaker 1: listening to what you say as spirit are is this
Speaker 1: anything to do with demons at all?
Speaker 2: No? I mean unless you want it to like obviously,
Speaker 2: Like okay, So I always hated the the phrase though
Speaker 2: it's all demons. That doesn't literally make sense because that's
Speaker 2: such an imbalance. It's literally it's like, okay, let's take
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a scale, right, and we're gonna put
Speaker 2: demons versus non demons. All right, it's just gonna tip it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, off the fucking table. If
Speaker 2: you can't, you can't have one without the other. Granted,
Speaker 2: can demons come on over? Yeah, if you allow it
Speaker 2: to and you don't protect yourself the right way, But
Speaker 2: can you imagine? So let's take the people who actually
Speaker 2: believe that. Okay, let's say that they got put facts
Speaker 2: in front of them saying it's not demons. Your Grandma
Speaker 2: Esther has really been sitting by you trying to give
Speaker 2: you information and stuff because they love you, you know,
Speaker 2: and that's what they're there to do. And you've just
Speaker 2: been telling Grandma Esther off, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you're just like whatever, you know, likean.
Speaker 5: This whole time I knitted you that.
Speaker 2: All right, you're throwing souls at them and you're just
Speaker 2: Grandma is just hitting Grandma and they're just like, what
Speaker 2: do you want me to do?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'll leave if you just want me to leave,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Those butter Scotch candies I gave you. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: trust me now.
Speaker 2: But to me, it's always been crazy to think like
Speaker 2: it's just such the imbalance alone. And maybe that's my
Speaker 2: libra moon speaking. I don't know, but I just to
Speaker 2: have so much of one and none of the other. Logically,
Speaker 2: that just doesn't make sense to me. And if you
Speaker 2: do that, like, I'm sure if you make it a
Speaker 2: mathematical term too, it wouldn't come out or equate to
Speaker 2: the right answer either.
Speaker 5: And I'm bad at math.
Speaker 1: You know, that's something that people just love to jump
Speaker 1: right forward to that if you're doing anything outside of
Speaker 1: their beliefs, that of course it's demonic. You know, all
Speaker 1: the old gods demonic, the Greek God's demonic, the Norse
Speaker 1: God's demonic, the flying spaghetti monster he hangs around long
Speaker 1: enough demonic. You know, it's like, these things are crazy,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's not a logical mind whatsoever.
Speaker 2: It's toxic. And then it's okay also too. If all
Speaker 2: you're saying is demon this, demon that demon this, guess
Speaker 2: what you're manifesting.
Speaker 5: You're literally calling it to you.
Speaker 2: And what's so funny is that these people I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to go on a tangent here, but it's like
Speaker 2: and they can get mad at me all they want,
Speaker 2: but it's like you really have to sit down and
Speaker 2: think blind following something so blindly, and they will lead
Speaker 2: you off a cliff, you know, like how are you
Speaker 2: you know, how are you not able to use logic
Speaker 2: and thinking like, Okay, that doesn't make sense, that's contradictory.
Speaker 2: And if they really started looking into things where it's
Speaker 2: like all the greatest women in the in the Bible,
Speaker 2: they were demonized for being smart, independent, self thinking women,
Speaker 2: and it's like you got to really think about like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if they're doing all these things and it's clearly for
Speaker 2: a position to keep power and fear, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, then there's there's a problem there because if
Speaker 2: you really want to sit there and argue, the Book
Speaker 2: of Psalms nothing but spell work.
Speaker 5: That's all it is. Spells, all right, They used crystals in.
Speaker 1: The Bible, that's what the Haitians were using.
Speaker 5: Or are you using they use crystals in the Bible.
Speaker 2: I've seen one of the things I saw them get
Speaker 2: he gave somebody to go around. I don't remember what
Speaker 2: worked for it, but they went around the city, and
Speaker 2: he gave him like Lapis lu Zuli. I don't remember
Speaker 2: all the old that was the one that I remember
Speaker 2: the most. But he go dorned in with crystals for
Speaker 2: all these other properties that they have. And then Jesus,
Speaker 2: do you madam me any one? He was a witch,
Speaker 2: he was a necromancer.
Speaker 1: And you're talking about the uh, the chest plate that
Speaker 1: had all the different crystals on it exactly.
Speaker 2: And then the three wise men that came to him,
Speaker 2: they followed a star, like, come on, it's right there.
Speaker 2: So why is it okay for them to have people
Speaker 2: that they seek to interpret their dreams and do all
Speaker 2: these other predictions or cools and whatnot. Why was it
Speaker 2: okay only in the Bible? You're thinking that those are
Speaker 2: the only times that those kinds of people are going
Speaker 2: to exist.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm starting to have a little bit more
Speaker 1: sympathy for people that have those beliefs and not necessarily
Speaker 1: trying to judge them so much anymore, because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to just come from a realm of understanding. It's like, look,
Speaker 1: if you are a believer of that religion. That's what
Speaker 1: that religion teaches you. Unfortunately, that is part of it.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe you want to take it all
Speaker 1: the way. I mean, it goes back way farther than this.
Speaker 1: But dude, just by looking at the King James Bible
Speaker 1: and everything that was going on around that time, King
Speaker 1: James wrote the book on Demonology, he was the one
Speaker 1: trying witch.
Speaker 2: In the other tower, trying to convert his piss.
Speaker 5: In the gold or something like that.
Speaker 2: Story.
Speaker 5: Well, they had a witch in another tower doing some stuff.
Speaker 1: It was all about how to hunt a witch and
Speaker 1: how to spot a witch and throw you know, hie,
Speaker 1: a millstone to a witch's foot and if she drowns,
Speaker 1: then then she's not a witch. But hey, she's already
Speaker 1: dead anyway. But if she comes back up, then she
Speaker 1: is a witch. And I'm pretty sure that never happened.
Speaker 2: Tell me a witch broke your heart without telling me
Speaker 2: a witch broke your heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we all. We all love a little crazy
Speaker 1: love from time to time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I but to hate a whole group of people, especially
Speaker 2: ones that are healing you in the community. So and then,
Speaker 2: oh wait, go back to the point for team. It's
Speaker 2: just two seconds. Didn't even talk about any of that.
Speaker 1: King Solomon, Yeah, well they'll say he's the mad King though.
Speaker 2: Okay, but y'all still talking about him and he's in
Speaker 2: the book though.
Speaker 1: Oh I agree. They only like to talk about good
Speaker 1: King Solomon, not mad King Solomon though, you know.
Speaker 5: Oh no, you got to take all of it bad carry.
Speaker 1: Tike no no, oh yeah, dude, there's solemn the solomonic
Speaker 1: solemonic magic out there, and dude, it's like really precise,
Speaker 1: like some of that some of the Solomon I don't
Speaker 1: know how to say that fucking word, but solomonic magic
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called, is like crazy deep and it's
Speaker 1: almost like it's like very similar. I'm pretty sure actually
Speaker 1: Aleister Crowley was real into solomonic magic.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, how do you think the Stairway Oh
Speaker 2: you know how the Stairway to Heaven song got wrote?
Speaker 1: Huh that was in Crowley's house, I think, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: They channeled and he said that I'm getting goosebumps on confirmation.
Speaker 5: They were channeling.
Speaker 2: They were doing a session of some sort and the dude,
Speaker 2: I think the whole band started hearing it. In their
Speaker 2: head and they just would not leave their head, and
Speaker 2: that's how the whole song got written.
Speaker 5: And I mean as Alisair Crowley is such.
Speaker 2: A unique and for me, I respect both in light
Speaker 2: and dark. I'm you know, I respect the balance sure,
Speaker 2: because I'm not a full light witch, like I'm going
Speaker 2: to balance in between, you know, like people.
Speaker 1: And some people will argue that there is no such
Speaker 1: thing as light or dark anyway, it's just energy that
Speaker 1: you're dealing with.
Speaker 2: Well, then that doesn't make sense, like, because then how
Speaker 2: would you differentiate what's good versus evil.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's kind of the point, is that you
Speaker 1: know what's good for you may be evil to somebody
Speaker 1: else and vice versa.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, saving the children I think is across
Speaker 2: the board of being a good thing or healing somebody. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe not healing like Hitler, but you know, but I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, I guess it's I guess that's
Speaker 2: where like that road de Hell was paid good intentions.
Speaker 2: But I mean, it is debatable through all aspects. But
Speaker 2: as long as you're calling in from a place of
Speaker 2: light and you're like, show me how to do this
Speaker 2: in the highest you know, vibration for the highest good
Speaker 2: of all.
Speaker 5: Then the guidance.
Speaker 2: There really should have should be towards something, and if
Speaker 2: somebody is disagreeing with that, then you need to question
Speaker 2: that person.
Speaker 1: You know, right well, I mean sticking on that topic,
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking a little dark magic. I went
Speaker 1: over to your apartment one time and pretty sure I
Speaker 1: saw you doing some kind of hex action going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like you did something, you put something in
Speaker 1: the freezer and you were like, yeah, that's a hex
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 3: Don't even don't even worry about.
Speaker 1: That, just curiosity. I mean, I'm gonna I'm not going
Speaker 1: to put a curse or a hex on anybody. I
Speaker 1: just like learning how it's done. But how did you
Speaker 1: go about doing that?
Speaker 2: So it's not a hex per se, it's it's called
Speaker 2: the freezer spell, and you don't have to you can
Speaker 2: do it on people, but you can also do it
Speaker 2: for other things too, So like if you want to
Speaker 2: like freeze your rent, or if you have an addiction,
Speaker 2: you want to freeze your addiction, or you want to
Speaker 2: freeze just anything that's like ailing you at that point
Speaker 2: or stressing you out or whatever. And that includes people
Speaker 2: you know you put them in the freezer, and what
Speaker 2: you do is there there's a couple of different ways
Speaker 2: you can do it. So you take a you take
Speaker 2: a bottle or a container of sorts that is capable
Speaker 2: of freezing with water in it. So I've had some
Speaker 2: stuff cracked before, you know, because I wasn't thinking it through.
Speaker 2: And you know, science, you got to put that in
Speaker 2: if science and magic would just anyway, so.
Speaker 3: The same thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they hand in hand.
Speaker 2: So well, so you take that and you put your
Speaker 2: petition in, like you put the name of whatever, the
Speaker 2: person or why you're freezing what you're freezing. Make sure
Speaker 2: you're specific, like, do not and I cannot stress this enough,
Speaker 2: do not leave room for interpretation at all, because the
Speaker 2: universe will take it and run a mile, run a
Speaker 2: galaxy with it, and do it.
Speaker 1: So and I'll have you, Oh, you're asking for a
Speaker 1: thousand bucks? Are you?
Speaker 2: Where are you getting that money from?
Speaker 1: Well, I would just referring to deer really, but that's.
Speaker 2: Actually my reference is Let's say you're manifesting money, and
Speaker 2: this is still going to apply to using the intention.
Speaker 2: Let's say you're menaging.
Speaker 5: Don't want a million.
Speaker 2: Dollars, right, or five hundred thousand dollars, just a quick
Speaker 2: little five hundred thousand, right, Okay, cool, here you go, Okay, cool, thanks,
Speaker 2: Oh ring ring ring. Oh hi, your great aunt Gertrude,
Speaker 2: she died last night, but she lets to see you
Speaker 2: in the will.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's what And that's what you hear too.
Speaker 1: From what you hear too is that you know, most times,
Speaker 1: whenever people are trying to manifest something or do a
Speaker 1: spell or some kind of magic or a ritual or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, and then their their spell, ritual, magic or
Speaker 1: whatever actually comes to fruition, most people just pass it
Speaker 1: off as a coincidence because they're like, oh, well, that
Speaker 1: happened the natural way, because they're expecting fucking you know,
Speaker 1: like the Hunger Games hamage just sending down some ointment
Speaker 1: from the heavens or something like that, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: happen like that.
Speaker 2: You know, the magic works is that you're calling a
Speaker 2: force to give it to you in a way that
Speaker 2: comes to you, like, how do you expect? Just like
Speaker 2: those people that don't want to bring their kids to
Speaker 2: the hospital, we're just gonna pray about it. You pray
Speaker 2: that this doctor who is specific in this medicine brought
Speaker 2: you in and he's good at this, and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it for free, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, try try praying a two fake away. All right,
Speaker 3: you're gonna go to the dentist.
Speaker 2: They would bring them to the person to help them
Speaker 2: because God, a divine source being whatever sent that to you.
Speaker 1: So get it out of you, dude. Well look, let's
Speaker 1: get over to the chat here real quick. Nick said,
Speaker 1: I introduced my girl to shrooms two nights ago. Went beautifully.
Speaker 1: We woke one another up.
Speaker 5: Hell, nice, beautiful.
Speaker 2: I love that for you.
Speaker 5: I think it's a great tool too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would love to do psychedelics with somebody
Speaker 1: who I'm like intimate with. You know, I've never done
Speaker 1: that actually, Like I've never done it with a girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Just become one, you know, I think.
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, I mean and and I've I've done psychedelics
Speaker 1: with I mean my favorite people, to be honest with you, like,
Speaker 1: I've done it with Sean. I've done it with Jacob
Speaker 1: one time. And actually he was a fucking Debbie Downer
Speaker 1: the entire time, and it was just bad energy. He
Speaker 1: was just judging. He was judging himself so hard the
Speaker 1: entire time. I'm like dude, I get it that you
Speaker 1: know you're going inward and you're not kind of used
Speaker 1: to that. But man, you're ruining my vibe right now, and.
Speaker 2: Let's do we do it right right right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, it's uh. I would I would love that.
Speaker 1: That sounds beautiful.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: We should all get together and a Sheldon Cody. Y'all
Speaker 2: love him, you know we could do that. That's fine.
Speaker 2: And then what I recommend, because I'm going to advocate
Speaker 2: for my zodiac, find you a scorpio to do that with.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, there's always been something about scorpios
Speaker 1: that I.
Speaker 2: Just Oh, there's plenty of them from out there. I'm
Speaker 2: looking for a good man with a good and have
Speaker 2: a good time. I promise you there's scorpio women out
Speaker 2: there and they will blow your mind.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm aware, Yeah, I'm aware. I actually have a
Speaker 1: Scorpio moon. So just to throw that out there.
Speaker 2: Oh see, that's what we get along.
Speaker 1: So well, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 2: Along.
Speaker 1: So Nick said, after doing the mushrooms, the sex was incredible.
Speaker 1: I can imagine yep, I can imagine that. Good on you, dude,
Speaker 1: brit said, do you think this destiny I think this
Speaker 1: is for you. Uh, do you think demons exist? And
Speaker 1: if they do, do you think they're bad? What do
Speaker 1: you think they really are or what they are for
Speaker 1: and can do?
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is like I love this question, by
Speaker 2: the way. So demons are they real?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I yeah, I've met one, you know, a few, a
Speaker 2: couple of times. I had one attached to me for
Speaker 2: like fifteen years before I even got into this stuff.
Speaker 2: I had one attached to me after playing with the
Speaker 2: Wigi board. And I'm not knocking weigi boards. They're just
Speaker 2: not for me.
Speaker 3: I mean, after forgetting the demon, I imagine that wouldn't
Speaker 3: be for you.
Speaker 5: No, definitely not.
Speaker 2: But it's like my vibration and who I am as
Speaker 2: I guess as a witch and a spiritual person that
Speaker 2: I'm not meant to align with it. I have a
Speaker 2: story behind that too, with the psychic she pulled us
Speaker 2: out of. I'll tell that story, just remind me after
Speaker 2: I go into this. But they're all right. So it's
Speaker 2: a mixed bag. I believe that like some demons are
Speaker 2: just pure brought you know, there's levels to it. I
Speaker 2: believe that some demons are just misunderstood, like Lilith. She
Speaker 2: was labeled, she was demonized, but she's she's not like
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But if you're gonna call
Speaker 2: me what it is, then I'll I'll show you a villain,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'll show you the demon
Speaker 2: because I can. I can go on demon time. I can.
Speaker 2: If somebody's gonna make me, yeah, I'm gonna be with
Speaker 2: you know, I'll be your worst nightmare. But I really
Speaker 2: just don't have any intentions of doing any harm. Just
Speaker 2: don't come for.
Speaker 5: Me, you know, Like that's just kind of how it is.
Speaker 2: So I think some of them do bad, you know,
Speaker 2: because they're considered bad. So if you're gonna label them
Speaker 2: that way, I don't think there's any escape from it.
Speaker 2: But I feel like some of them are, you know,
Speaker 2: they are tricksters. Some of them are kind of like
Speaker 2: in the middle. They're just they're not good, they're not bad,
Speaker 2: but you know, they kind of just do whatever, you know.
Speaker 2: But then there are ones that are low vibrational, heavy hitters,
Speaker 2: you know, like powerful and if they they just do
Speaker 2: whatever they want, you know. But a lot of them
Speaker 2: are low level in a sense of like negativity, embodiment
Speaker 2: of evil. But I think some of them are just misunderstood,
Speaker 2: you know. I think he just kind of have to gauge.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I'm not saying seek it out, you know,
Speaker 2: because if you're gonna call it out, like, you're gonna
Speaker 2: probably call the worst to you. And I've met the
Speaker 2: the two that I've met personally, like the one that
Speaker 2: was attached to me, he he didn't have good intentions
Speaker 2: at all, and he's I'm not gonna lie ugly like
Speaker 2: as sin, you know, he's so ugly. And I'm at
Speaker 2: the point now where I'm like, I dare you, you know,
Speaker 2: because I think he was trying to make his way
Speaker 2: back to me the other day because I was talking
Speaker 2: about him so much, because I mean, we've been in
Speaker 2: printed with each other for fifteen years, so we know
Speaker 2: each other's energy, and he's he's definitely trickster energy for
Speaker 2: sure on the negative aspect of it, because he's like
Speaker 2: I know his pattern. That's how well I know him
Speaker 2: is because of his pattern. Now, the one that I
Speaker 2: met after him, he was worse, he was scarier, and
Speaker 2: and it's like I try not to go into the
Speaker 2: fear aspect of it. Because when you realize that you're
Speaker 2: also like sovereign powerful in your own right, then that's
Speaker 2: where they get scared. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: when you start realizing that you yourself are basically and
Speaker 2: this is my theory I have, I would love to
Speaker 2: go into it, but we are essentially gods in a meat.
Speaker 1: Soup, dude. And that's that's so funny that you bring
Speaker 1: that up to because a long time ago, people you know,
Speaker 1: would would I heard Jacob's whole demon story and that
Speaker 1: whole thing, and I was like, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like most of the time, it's it's like the common
Speaker 1: concept is that there's always a lot of fear involved
Speaker 1: every single time, and.
Speaker 2: You are feeding that in of course you're manifesting that's.
Speaker 1: And they're just eating that shit up like it's cocaine,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just a fucking fiend drug.
Speaker 1: And you know, and I always thought, man, you know
Speaker 1: what's funny is is that the demons always want to
Speaker 1: allegedly from the stories, they always want to attach themselves
Speaker 1: to you. But why is it that we never want
Speaker 1: to attach ourselves to a demon? Was because we don't
Speaker 1: envy a demon? A demon may envy us, right, and
Speaker 1: so if they envy us, then that means that like
Speaker 1: we're kind of better than they are, and so the
Speaker 1: like I would have, I would imagine we're fucking more
Speaker 1: powerful than they are then at that point, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was never really worried about whole the whole demon thing,
Speaker 1: you know, my whole life. I've never really had a
Speaker 1: lot of fear about that personally. So real quick, you
Speaker 1: said that you had these experiences with this demon, So
Speaker 1: like what if you could explain like what you were experiencing.
Speaker 2: So let's see. So for a while, before I even
Speaker 2: got back into the witchy wou side of things, I
Speaker 2: was with my ex who was very abusive and hit
Speaker 2: that demon amplified that he came out of the Luigi
Speaker 2: when I was fourteen. But so I guess initially like
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Nothing happened when we played with the
Speaker 2: Weedi board, nothing happened, and I'm like, well this blows,
Speaker 2: you know, like I was kind of hoping for something
Speaker 2: and you know, but nothing happened, and.
Speaker 5: He led dormant a lot.
Speaker 2: But what my first initial notice of him was whenever
Speaker 2: I had went I told the girls because we were
Speaker 2: having a slumber party at my house. I was told
Speaker 2: the girls to go inside, and I was gonna go
Speaker 2: put the Wigi board up because it was my friends
Speaker 2: who let me borrow it. And whenever I go over
Speaker 2: on the side of his trailer by the porch, you
Speaker 2: cannot see me. And this is back in the day,
Speaker 2: not everybody had like cameras everywhere, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like this was like early, like two thousands, and so
Speaker 2: I shimmied under his porch and he had a nice
Speaker 2: little gap that would fit the board. Because well, we
Speaker 2: weren't in the best neighborhood and they would literally people.
Speaker 5: Would just steal shit, just to steal shit.
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to be responsible, you know, have
Speaker 2: that on me on my conscious that somebody stole it
Speaker 2: because I wasn't, you know, like smart or respectful enough
Speaker 2: to like put it somewhere. I was just gonna tell
Speaker 2: them where it was in the morning. Because cell phones
Speaker 2: didn't exist in or but they weren't like they no,
Speaker 2: I don't even think maybe like the big chunky ones
Speaker 2: in the cars, but I don't think cell phones were
Speaker 2: even a big thing, right, Like I didn't have a
Speaker 2: flip phone at that time, I know that kid cat
Speaker 2: she's I guess talking to spirit. But anyways, the next morning,
Speaker 2: we get woke up, or like a few hours later,
Speaker 2: we got woken up because my neighbor across the street.
Speaker 2: Next to the neighbor I borrowed the Ouiji boy from
Speaker 2: her brothers were waking her up because they had to
Speaker 2: go somewhere or whatever, and they were like banging on
Speaker 2: my window and I'm like what. Because I'm not a
Speaker 2: morning person, I'm like what, you know, Like what, why
Speaker 2: don't bang? What? Stop? What? They were like, hey, tell
Speaker 2: Jocelyn to come on or whatever, and I want to
Speaker 2: hope she's doing well.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen her since then.
Speaker 2: Anyways, they were like, oh and we found we found
Speaker 2: this in front of in front of your in front
Speaker 2: of your window. And I'm like, a pardon, where did
Speaker 2: you find that at? Where did you get that from?
Speaker 2: And They're like it was literally sitting in front of
Speaker 2: your window. And I'm like there's no way cause my
Speaker 2: friend hadn't even woken up yet, he's still sleeping. Nobody
Speaker 2: knew where I put it, you know, I was. I
Speaker 2: didn't make a peep when I put it under the porch.
Speaker 2: Nobody knew the.
Speaker 5: More upon inspecting.
Speaker 2: The board, right, that thing, Oh god, I'm getting chills.
Speaker 2: It looked like it had been beaten to hell. It
Speaker 2: had been tore up, burned, scort, scratch, spin on, runover.
Speaker 2: It looked like it had been ripped to pieces. Damn near.
Speaker 5: You couldn't even use it.
Speaker 2: It was beaten up so bad. And it was laying
Speaker 2: in front of my window.
Speaker 5: Like, look, I've got chills.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what I mean you believe that, like
Speaker 1: a demon had something to do with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then coincident, and we don't believe in coincidences
Speaker 2: in this house.
Speaker 5: I'm just using it as irony and a joke.
Speaker 2: But coincidentally, when I turned seventeen, I was like, supposed
Speaker 2: to go to my friend's house. She was late, right,
Speaker 2: and I ended up falling asleep. She woke me up
Speaker 2: and she was like, do you want to still come?
Speaker 2: You can go back to sleeping. When I'm like, hell no,
Speaker 2: I'm seventeen. Let's party, you know, let's go.
Speaker 5: And I left.
Speaker 2: That night my house burnt down, Like yeah, my house
Speaker 2: burnt down. The electrical core, the electric socket next to
Speaker 2: my bed caught fire quick my room, they said my
Speaker 2: room was up in flames, like.
Speaker 5: Faster than it should have been. And no, they really
Speaker 5: couldn't find.
Speaker 2: What caused it. They said they know where it came from,
Speaker 2: but there were no electrical issues right whatsoever. And my
Speaker 2: brother could have died if he would have been sleeping
Speaker 2: in his room and he was only a few months old,
Speaker 2: like I mean, he was only like no, no, no, at seventeen,
Speaker 2: he was a couple. He was a baby still, so
Speaker 2: he could have died. My parents could have died if
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have gotten woken up, you know, like I
Speaker 2: could have lost everyone. And what's funny is just.
Speaker 1: Like curiosity though, like whenever you guys, whenever you were
Speaker 1: working on the Ouiji board, did you call upon anybody
Speaker 1: in specific that maybe opened that portal to allow an
Speaker 1: entity that you weren't expecting in We.
Speaker 5: Followed from what I remember, and I don't remember, like
Speaker 5: too too much because that was just so long ago.
Speaker 2: But I believe we followed the rules because I know
Speaker 2: I was very very eminently, very serious about that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know the risks of playing with
Speaker 2: the weaving board because for some reason, as a kid
Speaker 2: and even into an adult, I was always very careful
Speaker 2: with my decisions because I know that there's you know,
Speaker 2: a kickback on things. If you do it this way,
Speaker 2: you're you're asking for trouble, so, you know, and making
Speaker 2: my decisions, I'm thoroughly thinking things through. So I'm like
Speaker 2: making sure we're doing it right or we you know,
Speaker 2: closing it right and properly opening it properly. But I
Speaker 2: don't know what it was that we did. Now, granted
Speaker 2: it was multiple people there, it was a few of
Speaker 2: us girls doing it, so that may have played a
Speaker 2: factor in the fact that not everybody may have had
Speaker 2: the same intention or mindset, which is definitely like important
Speaker 2: that on the level of it. Now, I'm never going
Speaker 2: to recommend to play the bard alone. Like I'm never
Speaker 2: going to recommend that if you do it on you,
Speaker 2: that's your decision. Just please use as much protection, like
Speaker 2: go above and beyond on protection. Okay, like more than salt,
Speaker 2: brick dust, eggshell dust, combine it, you know, get make
Speaker 2: black salt, all of it, gets all the clear quartz
Speaker 2: crystals on it, you know, tormaline, just everything. I don't
Speaker 2: care if you have to chisel a tourmaline in casing
Speaker 2: to put a dome on top of you, something like,
Speaker 2: just make sure you're taking the proper precautions so you
Speaker 2: don't have that because you don't know, you don't know
Speaker 2: what's gonna come through. And frankly, I think I got lucky,
Speaker 2: and that saysn't that's saying a lot, because that demon
Speaker 2: did a lot of like crazy shit to me. But
Speaker 2: I mean, you can invite something worse, you know. Well
Speaker 2: after that, it lied dormant for a long time, and
Speaker 2: whenever I was eighteen and we were in our new trailer,
Speaker 2: I ended up meeting my ex Brandon, and I should
Speaker 2: say his name loud and proud, because you know, he
Speaker 2: was an abusive person and he deserves the call out.
Speaker 2: But I think in a sense, like people might say, oh,
Speaker 2: the demon made that happen, it just made it worse.
Speaker 2: It was not.
Speaker 5: It would have happened regardless, but it.
Speaker 2: Just made it worse. And the thing is is that
Speaker 2: even though me and that man will never like each other,
Speaker 2: you know, I will never have anything positive with him,
Speaker 2: There's one thing that I can say that me and
Speaker 2: him would agree on is that we both experienced supernatural
Speaker 2: things involving that demon, and I had actually I've got
Speaker 2: an e VP on YouTube on my foot phone, and
Speaker 2: I caught his voice very creepy. But when he popped
Speaker 2: up around that time, I used, I used to have
Speaker 2: a picture of him. I caught him in my closet.
Speaker 2: By the way, closets are portals. It's just like monsters,
Speaker 2: inc Just to put that out there, but he was,
Speaker 2: you know, amplifying the violence. Things started moving like like
Speaker 2: I think the first the very first supernatural event that
Speaker 2: involved him. When me and him were together, I'm getting
Speaker 2: chills from head to toe and filling it in my cheeks,
Speaker 2: which means it's like really intense. So babe, hey, bab
Speaker 2: can you light the incense do red dragon's blood just
Speaker 2: for protection?
Speaker 3: Please you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That calls them back, by the way, because he we're
Speaker 2: familiar with each other's energy.
Speaker 5: Like if I if I talk about him for.
Speaker 2: To too too much, you know, and I'm too into it,
Speaker 2: then he'll he'll find me again. And I've banished him
Speaker 2: a few time. I've gotten rid of him a few times.
Speaker 2: Maybe not the right banishment enough, that's too permanent, but
Speaker 2: I'm going to figure it out. Anyways, we were laying
Speaker 2: in bed and I'm like between his legs like laying down,
Speaker 2: you know, and we're like falling asleep, and how am
Speaker 2: I like room with that. I'm trying to like figure
Speaker 2: out how to do it to where y'all understand what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's like I have my bed and
Speaker 2: like I have the wall, and then I have my
Speaker 2: window over here, and I hear on the wall side
Speaker 2: I'm talking clear as day, not in my head out loud.
Speaker 2: I hear like somebody in my ear destiny, like really loud.
Speaker 2: But it was a whisper. It was so weird. I reacted.
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything, but I reacted. And Brandon jumps
Speaker 2: up and he goes, what the fuck? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm trying not to cuss, but he goes,
Speaker 2: what the you know? And I'm like, what did you hear?
Speaker 2: And he's like, I heard your name and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're on the same page, got it?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I both heard it.
Speaker 2: Mmh. He jumps off the bed, He goes outside, looks
Speaker 2: at the perimeter around and he's like, didn't find nobody.
Speaker 5: And he said and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, the whisper didn't come from the window. You can't
Speaker 2: whisper through a window that came from the wall, and
Speaker 2: then it clicked, you know. He was like, oh hmmm,
Speaker 2: you're right, and I'm like okay. You know, after that,
Speaker 2: just other things started happening. My mom had gotten a
Speaker 2: new desktop, and because Brandon was such a good like
Speaker 2: like person to be on like you know, like hacker style,
Speaker 2: he taught himself a lot of like how to do
Speaker 2: all the technical stuff on computers that you know, most
Speaker 2: basic people wouldn't know unless you like learned like he
Speaker 2: can get in the back door and just just do
Speaker 2: all the inner works of the computer like a hacker
Speaker 2: or whatever. And one day we're cooking lunch and I
Speaker 2: was basically a living nanny from my mom and he
Speaker 2: didn't work, you know, but he he was cooking chicken,
Speaker 2: and I was cleaning up something, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: like the computer turned on. Mind you, the fresh out
Speaker 2: the box computer. There's nothing on this computer. We don't
Speaker 2: even have the Internet browser programmed yet. Okay, so there's
Speaker 2: literally nothing stored on this computer. It is like factory reset,
Speaker 2: fresh out the box. All of a sudden, this fuck
Speaker 2: this piano melody plays through the speaker loud on a
Speaker 2: loop three times, shuts off by itself, chills and me
Speaker 2: and him are just like, what is that? You know? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm like no, So we freaked out about that. He
Speaker 2: looks on the computer. He sees nothing. There's no source.
Speaker 2: He can't even find it. There's no source. You can't
Speaker 2: find anything on a computer anything, there's no source. He
Speaker 2: doesn't know where the music came from, what the music was,
Speaker 2: We don't know nothing. Next day, computer pops on again,
Speaker 2: same time, but this time, Oh, this is so creepy.
Speaker 2: I had this on video. I'm gone, but I had
Speaker 2: it on video. Look at the goosebumps. I don't know if
Speaker 2: y'all can see him, but who So anyways, it does
Speaker 2: it again. It turns on, but this time it's speaking
Speaker 2: in a different language and it's praying. And I have
Speaker 2: a natural ear for linguistics. Say it was I want
Speaker 2: to say, aramic, Oh interesting, I have a tent. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I have an ear for linguistics. I can
Speaker 2: kind of pin point what regent all that stuff where.
Speaker 2: It's just a natural talent.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Nobody taught me that.
Speaker 2: And it played on a loop three times and stop
Speaker 2: and nothing happened on the computer. After that, then my
Speaker 2: cat started freaking out. And mind you, she was a
Speaker 2: very savage cat. She was a Siamese. She was scared
Speaker 2: of nothing, but all of a sudden, if she's been
Speaker 2: there for years, mindude, this happened over the course of
Speaker 2: like six years, you know, so she's never scared of anything,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, she's hyper fixated, and I mean terrified.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen the look of
Speaker 2: terror in and animal's eyes, but she was terrified of
Speaker 2: my ceiling span, not the other four in the house,
Speaker 2: mine out of it. She's been with me in that
Speaker 2: house for years at this point, and she's never been
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. Now she's scared, terrified. She won't eat
Speaker 2: in the room. She's like always doing that, like hunch down,
Speaker 2: low to the ground, like she's trying to get away
Speaker 2: from it, staring fixated. Her eyes will not break off
Speaker 2: with that fan if it's in her sight. We had
Speaker 2: to move her food bowl in parts of the room
Speaker 2: or outside of the room to where she couldn't have
Speaker 2: a visual of it because she was that scared. She
Speaker 2: wouldn't sleep in the bedroom with us, and that was
Speaker 2: a big deal because she was attached to me, so
Speaker 2: attached to me. And I don't know what Brandon did this,
Speaker 2: but it was kind of like I guess because we were
Speaker 2: uncertain of it, and and sounds cruel when I say it,
Speaker 2: but we picked he picked her up and he put
Speaker 2: her closer to the fan just to test the theory.
Speaker 2: Oh God, you would have thought we were murdering her.
Speaker 2: She did not. There was something on that fan or
Speaker 2: in that area. And then that went on for about
Speaker 2: six months and then it stopped. She would come in
Speaker 2: look at it like hmm, it's not there anymore, and
Speaker 2: then she was back to normal.
Speaker 3: And you didn't you didn't do and you didn't do
Speaker 3: anything to the fan, like change anything about it. There
Speaker 3: wasn't like light bulbs out and you replace them or
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 2: No, like we were messing with the fan in general.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is it was a fan. Then
Speaker 2: why isn't she scared of the other five or four
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There was something with this fan for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, we were tinking we were doing different We were
Speaker 2: I think if I recall, we were like different settings,
Speaker 2: changing the light bulb just to see if something with
Speaker 2: the fan was, She's still it didn't change. She was
Speaker 2: terrified of the fan. If we could have taken the
Speaker 2: fan off the ceiling, we didn't. We couldn't, but if
Speaker 2: we could, I mean, we probably could have really tried,
Speaker 2: but it's Louisiana. You don't want to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, I think she still would have been
Speaker 2: scared of that spot, because then why is it she's
Speaker 2: all of a sudden scared of it and six months later,
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, she's not scared of it anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's super strange.
Speaker 1: Well, that leaves us to Britt's question. Britt said, is
Speaker 1: is that how you got rid of the demon because
Speaker 1: you realized your power because you were and earlier you
Speaker 1: said I wish a demon would fuck with me kind
Speaker 1: of thing?
Speaker 2: Right? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that kind of like how you got rid of
Speaker 1: it in the first place?
Speaker 5: Kind of that played a huge, huge part in it.
Speaker 2: So whenever you have something negative like that, you do
Speaker 2: want to command it, like if it's in your space,
Speaker 2: that's part of it. I would recommend just looking up
Speaker 2: certain always follow your intuition on what is guided to
Speaker 2: get rid of it, because there's different ways to get
Speaker 2: rid of it depending on what kind of demon it is,
Speaker 2: what the end, you know what it's, you know just
Speaker 2: what it is energy wise, But having that get the
Speaker 2: out of my house, you little motherfucker. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You are not welcome here, and it's weird
Speaker 2: energy that you want to be somewhere where no one
Speaker 2: likes you. We're laughing at you know, just really you're
Speaker 2: the dominant one. You have to assert your dominance using
Speaker 2: you know, putting up wards helps as well, but there are.
Speaker 5: Certain banishment techniques that you can do.
Speaker 1: My friend, I feel like, is it possible that if
Speaker 1: you're not giving into the fear, you're almost starving it
Speaker 1: of its energy that it feeds on.
Speaker 2: We tried to ignore it, and that just was like,
Speaker 2: let me amp it up a little bit, because when
Speaker 2: me and Brandon tried to ignore it, that's when the
Speaker 2: shades started swooping from side to side, and my mom's
Speaker 2: door was flinging open when nobody was in the house
Speaker 2: but me, and you know, then the nightmares, the nightmares
Speaker 2: that freaked me out. I had the same nightmare consecutively
Speaker 2: for three weeks straight. You see the pattern of three right,
Speaker 2: It was like a Freddy Krueger thing. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to sleep because at any time I shut my eyes,
Speaker 2: it was the same dream, and I see it in
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 5: It was the same dream.
Speaker 2: I'm in a Puritan house and there's nothing in there.
Speaker 5: It's all wood.
Speaker 2: There's like a table and a cauldron, but the cauldron's
Speaker 2: like in the fire pit cook and the fire was
Speaker 2: lit and there was nobody in the room.
Speaker 5: And I would go to try to go out the door.
Speaker 2: The door's not opening, and I turn around and it's
Speaker 2: filled with people in black cloaks like it was scary,
Speaker 2: and they were all mumbling and I could not understand them.
Speaker 2: But then the one that seemed to because I'm getting chilled,
Speaker 2: and the one that was the leader, he would speak
Speaker 2: for the group, and it was the same message, every
Speaker 2: single time. We have you, we're going to get you.
Speaker 2: You're you're we're pretty much your ours, you know, And
Speaker 2: I'm like fuck, you know. And funny enough, I prayed
Speaker 2: about it, like right, like I hit my knees one
Speaker 2: night and I was like, God, I mean, you don't
Speaker 2: you know with each other like that.
Speaker 5: I'm not perfect, but you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you make it stop? I can't deal with
Speaker 2: this anymore. And it's so weird because my theories on
Speaker 2: God and stuff are so different now. So I don't
Speaker 2: think I think who I prayed to was not the
Speaker 2: Christian God, think it was the original source, because I
Speaker 2: think the Christian God is uh demi urge albeo. I
Speaker 2: could go into a whole thing on that, but that's
Speaker 2: not the point of right now. I had a dream
Speaker 2: that night that I was in a nunnery and I'm
Speaker 2: sitting in like this, it's like a walk breezeway, and
Speaker 2: it's beautiful. It's like stone, you know, and it's like
Speaker 2: it's this like stone, but on the sides like grass
Speaker 2: and like little like stone benches with like cutouts with
Speaker 2: like like Mary and New York candles, like just little
Speaker 2: like statues of like those kinds of people or then
Speaker 2: like deities or whatever, like saints and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And I'm just sitting there chilling, you know. I felt
Speaker 2: very serene, and this woman, this nun comes up to me.
Speaker 2: She's in a gray habit and she's like kind of
Speaker 2: a she's probably in her sixties, you know. She's kind
Speaker 2: of like a thicker grandma. She looks like she bakes
Speaker 2: the best cookies. You know. She just was a very
Speaker 2: sweet face and she's like, hey, you know my child.
Speaker 2: He says he heard you, and you're fine, You're okay,
Speaker 2: You're good. No more, You're not gonna have to deal
Speaker 2: with it anymore. And I never had that nightmare again,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, holy crap, like what But then it
Speaker 2: came back like years later, and it's broken up a
Speaker 2: lot of my relationships, friendship stuff like that. I think
Speaker 2: it became like it was like obsessed with me kind
Speaker 2: of in a sense, like it didn't want me to
Speaker 2: have It was like an abusive relationship. It didn't want
Speaker 2: me to have a connection with anybody, especially meant it
Speaker 2: did not want me to have any relationship with a
Speaker 2: man whatsoever. It was jelly, so very jelly.
Speaker 3: Real quick. He said, when you in the dream to
Speaker 3: go back to that, you would turn around and there
Speaker 3: would be a bunch of people in black cloaks. So like,
Speaker 3: in your understanding, since it's been so long, you having
Speaker 3: this dream over and over, like what is your interpretation
Speaker 3: of the imagery of seeing these black cloaks?
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Like, like, who who would those people be? Are they deemed?
Speaker 3: Are they who wore the black people.
Speaker 2: I believe they were all demons. Like it was like
Speaker 2: they're like the minions, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 2: it was like a click, like a group, because they
Speaker 2: didn't feel human. They did not feel human. They were
Speaker 2: all oh. And I forgot this crucial detail of the
Speaker 2: the the dream. Their eyes they would be normal and
Speaker 2: flick to black, like solid black, like for the ones
Speaker 2: that I could see their faces. I couldn't see all
Speaker 2: their faces, but especially the main guy. They looked human.
Speaker 2: They looked very human, but they weren't like their eyes.
Speaker 2: They would look at me and then it would just
Speaker 2: flick to black and it would just back and forth,
Speaker 2: like they were psyching me out, you know. They were
Speaker 2: just like I don't remember. I was terrified, terrified because
Speaker 2: at the time I wasn't I was not a practicing
Speaker 2: which my mom had already converted back to Baptists, you know,
Speaker 2: and she was pushing me to do it, and I
Speaker 2: was trying so hard to convert myself back to that faith,
Speaker 2: and I just I didn't know, you know, what was
Speaker 2: going on. I was so beating myself up. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what did I do to deserve this? You know?
Speaker 5: I get the Oigi board thing. But you know, like
Speaker 5: I feel like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know I did something else that was wrong, you know,
Speaker 2: I just I shamed myself a lot when I was
Speaker 2: like in the when I was religious, I was there
Speaker 2: was a lot more fear mongering when religion was involved.
Speaker 2: And I think when religion is involved, I think it's
Speaker 2: almost like you're opening yourself up more to that because
Speaker 2: of the battle between that good versus evil thing. You know,
Speaker 2: like they almost for the right picking, you know, like
Speaker 2: you you're full of sin and they wanted like devour
Speaker 2: your soul, and so you almost make yourself vulnerable to
Speaker 2: that because of the religion. I think.
Speaker 5: You know, that's just a personal opinion.
Speaker 1: It's quite possible.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's something that I think too. I mean, just if
Speaker 1: everything's on a pole, you know, like there's going to
Speaker 1: be the positive and the negative on that pole.
Speaker 2: So if there is a good, they're teaching you that
Speaker 2: you're full of sin and no, no, no, and it's like.
Speaker 3: You were born that way. Actually, yeah, right, I.
Speaker 2: Think you're open.
Speaker 1: Well at that point, you're almost a magnet to demons
Speaker 1: if you believe that exactly.
Speaker 2: The fear mongering to have you in fear and under
Speaker 2: that thumb you're wide open. Yeah, but if you realize
Speaker 2: that you're sovereign and you're powerful and you are that power,
Speaker 2: then that kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: I would think, So, yeah, all right, we need to
Speaker 1: I want to get over to a couple of the
Speaker 1: chats here because there's a.
Speaker 5: Bunch of people that properly I don't know if I.
Speaker 1: Got oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure experience. There's a
Speaker 1: bunch of people asking you questions, so I want to
Speaker 1: make sure we get to them. Benjamin said, DESI have
Speaker 1: you ever looked into a crystal ball? And if so,
Speaker 1: what did you experience?
Speaker 5: Actually, no, I've never looked into a crystal ball.
Speaker 2: And that's one of my favorite things to like doodle actual,
Speaker 2: hold on, where's my Like?
Speaker 5: I love drawing them crying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never scrat I want to because I know
Speaker 2: that I've been told that other but psychics that I'm
Speaker 2: I would actually be like really good at that form
Speaker 2: of divination. But honestly, I think as as much as
Speaker 2: I put on like for the most part, I do
Speaker 2: have that, Like I don't I'm not scared really much
Speaker 2: of anything. It's more or less like I don't I
Speaker 2: don't like gore, and I'm kind of scared of to
Speaker 2: see the gross stuff, you know, like the things that
Speaker 2: are just not because I mean, when you scry, of
Speaker 2: course your intention should be there, so you're scrying for
Speaker 2: certain things.
Speaker 5: I need to try it.
Speaker 2: But I think every time that I tried to scry,
Speaker 2: like something happened or something got in the way of
Speaker 2: me scrying. But like, I need to get an obsidian
Speaker 2: mirror because I really would love to do that. But
Speaker 2: I've never looked into a crystal ball, but I'm aware
Speaker 2: of of what. I honestly think I could do a
Speaker 2: lot when I look into that, like because if I
Speaker 2: can look at the cards and tell the future.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're cousins at that point pretty much.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's all. It's all divination tools and with
Speaker 2: the crystal ball or water or obsidian mirrors and like
Speaker 2: the obsidian mirrors and stuff like, it's just it's pretty
Speaker 2: much like a like a TV.
Speaker 1: You know, right, channeling channeling into the program.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: You know, you just got to learn how to tune
Speaker 5: that in.
Speaker 1: But well, speaking of divination, brit said, what's so different
Speaker 1: about a Wiji? Board versus a pendulum, So.
Speaker 2: A Wiji board is okay. So like I guess it
Speaker 2: depends because with the pendulum you can have different boards
Speaker 2: with different I mean, you can do basic yes, no questions.
Speaker 2: With pendulums, you can do boards with different answers on them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Like with the Wigi board,
Speaker 2: it's alphabetical, so it's gonna spell it out. I know
Speaker 2: that probably doesn't sound too much of a difference. I
Speaker 2: personally think the Ouiji board when it was created, it
Speaker 2: didn't have good intentions when it was created. I feel
Speaker 2: like it was birthed out of a lower vibration. That's
Speaker 2: personal opinion. I feel though that that what that is.
Speaker 2: Because I mean everything that I'm drawn to in the
Speaker 2: realm of divination, magic, the witchy Wu, I go by
Speaker 2: my intuition and my spirit. If it does not sit
Speaker 2: right with my spirit, it is not aligned for me,
Speaker 2: and I will not force it. And I have not
Speaker 2: missed yet. And that's following anything. If if a phrase
Speaker 2: that somebody like Hallmark, phrases that people speak on that
Speaker 2: don't hit right with me, I'm not gonna I don't
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 5: I'll argue with it.
Speaker 2: But I guess with pendulums, I don't know people can
Speaker 2: manipulate pendulums to more than Wigi boards. I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: I know people can manipulate Ouiji boards like with their fingers,
Speaker 2: but with pendulums like you can shake. I would recommend
Speaker 2: getting a tool that holds the pendulum so you don't
Speaker 2: have to, you know, like worry if you're shaking too
Speaker 2: much or not. But essentially it's like there's difference, but
Speaker 2: there's not.
Speaker 1: You know, like stigma. That stigma against the Wigia board
Speaker 1: almost ultimately may even open up the negative possibility.
Speaker 2: If you see only negative, then you're gonna get only negative.
Speaker 5: Now granted I'm not the only reason.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I don't do it because
Speaker 2: of what I'm not meant to align with it.
Speaker 5: But I'm not.
Speaker 2: Saying, don't you know, if you feel pulled and drawn
Speaker 2: to use the Wigi board and it's coming out good
Speaker 2: for you and you're doing what you like good with it,
Speaker 2: do it. You know, like it's just not meant for everybody.
Speaker 2: But I feel like there are key differences in the
Speaker 2: tool as it being just what it is.
Speaker 5: You know, it's a crystal.
Speaker 2: The pendulum is typically a crystal, but you're not using
Speaker 2: crystals for the Ouigi board. It's the same and different
Speaker 2: at the same time. I guess it's just all about perspective,
Speaker 2: you know, Okay, But they're both divination tools to communicate
Speaker 2: with spirits, So.
Speaker 5: I guess it really just depends on how you want
Speaker 5: to view it.
Speaker 1: It's up to the to the individual. Maybe not like
Speaker 1: a clear cut kind of line there much. Benjamin said.
Speaker 1: My ex girlfriend's demon used to make random everyday items
Speaker 1: disappear when I wasn't looking. He normally always gave them
Speaker 1: back Eventually. One time, my ex girlfriend and I seen
Speaker 1: the Zippo lighter that I had quote unquote lost materialize
Speaker 1: out of thin air on to the table we were
Speaker 1: sitting by. It was wild as fuck. Oh, I would
Speaker 1: love to witness that demon.
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. That sounds like
Speaker 2: a trickster. It may demon, but it could just be
Speaker 2: a trickster. It's not. Tricksters aren't always necessarily demon unless
Speaker 2: you want to demonize them, because they're just messing with you,
Speaker 2: like they're If they're giving it back, they're not all
Speaker 2: bad obviously, like the machine elves, you know exactly, you know,
Speaker 2: they're kind of like the like little elves and gnomes
Speaker 2: they will or fairies.
Speaker 5: You know, they're just gonna be like.
Speaker 2: I got your stuff, like I got your nose, you know,
Speaker 2: but they're gonna give it back, you know, They're just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: here you go. You know, you just you can give
Speaker 2: them offerings to get it back, or like I have
Speaker 2: a spell that that I've used for lost items. And
Speaker 2: when I tell you that spell has worked every single time.
Speaker 1: Out there spell the t I'm ready for it.
Speaker 2: You okay, you.
Speaker 5: Want the spell now?
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm always gonna say use good intentions and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, like don't run the saint dry, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, don't be petty with it, and don't
Speaker 2: be like over exerting this this spell, like use it
Speaker 2: when you need it. And actually I have I have.
Speaker 5: A supernatural story on this one too.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the spell work, but it did involve
Speaker 2: like a cold case, though not a cold case. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry it didn't involve an active crime case like using it.
Speaker 2: But it's Dear Saint Anthony's spell, and oh my god,
Speaker 2: I've been using him. I've been actually having needing to
Speaker 2: use reference this spell a lot lately, like within the
Speaker 2: past few days, so there's wonder if there's something to that.
Speaker 5: I'm peeping the pattern.
Speaker 1: What kind of spell did you say it was? I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I missed it.
Speaker 5: It's a fine lost items spell.
Speaker 2: So this is how goes. You say it three times,
Speaker 2: no more, no less. Make sure you're thinking this saint
Speaker 2: for his work afterwards, So lighting incense like dragon's blood, frankinsense,
Speaker 2: mr an offering of some sort to thank him.
Speaker 1: For his service, said Anthony. Saint Anthony, Oh, that's what
Speaker 1: you said that I missed.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Sorry, So it's it just goes. Dear Saint Anthony, please
Speaker 2: come around. My object is lost and cannot be found
Speaker 2: now in the event where I've used it for missing persons,
Speaker 2: I had, I did do that once it came to
Speaker 2: I didn't even think at first to use it. But
Speaker 2: my friend in Ohio's daughter she went missing, and uh
Speaker 2: panic because she's I'm the godmother. I'm the godmother and
Speaker 2: like me and this woman have been friends for years,
Speaker 2: Like we're close. You know, we don't get to talk
Speaker 2: all the time, but we're pretty close. We've never met
Speaker 2: in person, but we love each other. That much, you know.
Speaker 2: And she loves me so much, you know, loves me
Speaker 2: so much enough to name me Godma, you know, to
Speaker 2: her kids. Well, her oldest daughter goes missing, and I
Speaker 2: just think, you know, it came to my mind. So
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that was spirit, you know, And I told
Speaker 2: her I was on the phone with her. I was like,
Speaker 2: let's do this spell at the same time, because she's
Speaker 2: she's a witch too.
Speaker 5: And we did it.
Speaker 2: And I mean, when I tell you, the goosebumps that
Speaker 2: came over us like it was such a magical feeling.
Speaker 2: It worked because we were trying to actively find her.
Speaker 2: It didn't work in the way that we've wanted it to, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: but she was found. Unfortunately, she was already deceased. The
Speaker 2: father had already taken her life and done other horrible
Speaker 2: things to her. And I think you can look up
Speaker 2: if anybody is actually curious, you know, for the morbid
Speaker 2: details at the case. I don't know if they're gonna
Speaker 2: list it, but the cases in Ohio. And her name
Speaker 2: was Kamani and it means butterfly, and so her dad
Speaker 2: and the grandmother, the mother of the mother was involved
Speaker 2: because she was sleeping around with the dad. She knew
Speaker 2: where she was, and me and my boyfriend were doing
Speaker 2: Ustus and Taro and spirit box to pick up on
Speaker 2: her location. We were getting cities that I didn't know
Speaker 2: about in Ohio. We were getting we hit points. She
Speaker 2: was found the next morning. She the body was brought
Speaker 2: back to her the next morning.
Speaker 1: There's definitely something to all of it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I think you know him for it,
Speaker 2: But any other time I've used it for an object,
Speaker 2: that object will pop up. I actually got. We're going
Speaker 2: through this awful thing with his with like his baby
Speaker 2: mama and his son, and it's it's it's awful what
Speaker 2: we're dealing with. It's a serious crime has taken into
Speaker 2: effect for this child. If you know where I'm going
Speaker 2: with it. And the man is the other baby daddy
Speaker 2: of the baby mother. He's he's a bad man and
Speaker 2: don't worry, he's in the boot. So I did. I
Speaker 2: did text on him, okay, And if anybody's curious about
Speaker 2: the boot fell, I'll tell that one too.
Speaker 1: But anyways, so, uh well, let's go boots.
Speaker 2: For him because he's he's trying to ruin her life.
Speaker 2: So right now he's got her paying back pay on
Speaker 2: child support because he called in sant fraud I mean
Speaker 2: not child sport food stands, saying oh fraud. I was
Speaker 2: never on it, but he was like he was a
Speaker 2: dependent or whatever somehow to where he was living with her.
Speaker 2: He called lied saying it wasn't so NAT's saying back pay.
Speaker 2: So she was like, I can't get a hold of
Speaker 2: the lease because of the office was doing shicy things.
Speaker 2: And I was like, say the spell with me. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it together, and I promise that the
Speaker 2: lease is going to pop up in a weird way.
Speaker 2: We did the spell, and sure enough, we talked to
Speaker 2: her on the phone the other day and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so we ended up finding the lease and they're.
Speaker 5: Mailing it to me.
Speaker 3: It just works.
Speaker 1: It's tried and true.
Speaker 5: Works every time.
Speaker 2: Like, if you're going to do a lease spell work,
Speaker 2: do it respectfully and from a place of being humble,
Speaker 2: so because you will get a kickback if you're if
Speaker 2: you're doing it for the wrong reason.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, dude, I oh yea, what happened?
Speaker 2: What dude? What? No?
Speaker 1: I said, that spell must be right out the grimoire
Speaker 1: since it works so well.
Speaker 2: I got it out of a spell. I don't have
Speaker 2: the spell book anymore, but I do. I write it
Speaker 2: out of a spellbook, and for I don't memorize things
Speaker 2: very well, but I memorized it for some reason, and
Speaker 2: I'm at fourteen. I've known it ever since, like for
Speaker 2: some reason.
Speaker 3: Your own grimoire, I think.
Speaker 2: Oh I am Actually I'll be on like I'm creating
Speaker 2: spell for more pages that I'm gonna end up posting
Speaker 2: on certain platforms to sell for someone who wants to
Speaker 2: make their own grimoire, so I can that later.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's legit. Let's see. Let's get down the
Speaker 1: chat here. Brit said, I never had anything mess mess
Speaker 1: with me while awake just to sleep, So mine weren't
Speaker 1: that bad. Just a just a dream or a nightmare
Speaker 1: kind of situation going on there, and.
Speaker 3: Which makes sense if you think about it. Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: go ahead, No, I was just gonna say it. You know,
Speaker 3: it makes sense because even you were saying that, you know,
Speaker 3: you had those nightmares like three weeks in a row.
Speaker 3: It's like, imagine a way that this demon or this
Speaker 3: energy can put you in a fear state of mind
Speaker 3: and you know, actually giving you the ability to see
Speaker 3: the representation of what that would look like, make you
Speaker 3: feel fearful and then kind of you know, uh, get
Speaker 3: that energy from you being.
Speaker 2: Messing with you in your dreams. I mean that's a
Speaker 2: big deal too, because that's your spirit, that's you, you know,
Speaker 2: because when you when you sleep, your your your soul
Speaker 2: is leaving your body essentially and you're going into other realms.
Speaker 2: Like that's what that is like. So you've got to
Speaker 2: be careful, especially if you are accidentally actual traveling. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't want them to cut the line and they'll
Speaker 2: fit that's you're trying to attach to you. By the way, m.
Speaker 1: Britt also said, in referring to your demon experience that
Speaker 1: that sounds like a sucubist slash incubus being jealous and
Speaker 1: not wanting you to be with anyone else but them.
Speaker 2: Probably I didn't even think. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: never thought about it that way. I'm glad they put
Speaker 2: that up because that does make sense. And I did
Speaker 2: have a lot of weird sexual dreams throughout the years
Speaker 2: where I didn't know who it was, but very very
Speaker 2: intense sexual dreams, and I'm just like, why never made
Speaker 2: the connection is beyond me. But that sucks because like
Speaker 2: it's a bit. He was really ugly too. That's why
Speaker 2: I can describe him. When I caught him on camera.
Speaker 2: It was just his like side profile, like peeking out
Speaker 2: of my closet. It like because the door wasn't fully
Speaker 2: open or closed, and he kind of looked like, you
Speaker 2: know the old spider Man with the what's his face? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so you know the the green goblin mask.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: He had the bulging eyes like that.
Speaker 2: It's like this weird skin texture, very sharp like jawline,
Speaker 2: and he had this like shit eating grin that was
Speaker 2: like a mile long, and he was just like looking
Speaker 2: right at me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you ugly motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Looking like a whole veloss of raptor.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, so you're what you know, I
Speaker 2: think a succubit or inhol at least be decent looking,
Speaker 2: you know, like give me Henry cavill or something like.
Speaker 1: Come on, Benjamin said, clear quartz. I think is easier
Speaker 1: to see obsidian. It seems to me that it takes
Speaker 1: some experience under your belt. Yes, maybe a little bit,
Speaker 1: each to the to each their own. I mean I
Speaker 1: know that because the idea is that you're you kind
Speaker 1: of want the flame up against the obsidian, right, and
Speaker 1: you're supposed to almost like stare into the black flame
Speaker 1: that's up against the obsidian, if you're trying to scry, right,
Speaker 1: isn't that how it's done different?
Speaker 2: I've heard different points of using it. I heard to
Speaker 2: have the flame right there. Then I've heard to have
Speaker 2: the flame close enough but not in the.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you want to be able to I guess
Speaker 2: it just depends because if you have the flame in there,
Speaker 2: you're looking at two forms of divination.
Speaker 5: You're looking in the flame and the reflection.
Speaker 2: Because thing you can use flames as divination tools as well.
Speaker 2: So with clear courts and obsidian or Onyx or well
Speaker 2: no obsidian, I do see where there could be a difference. Energetically,
Speaker 2: they're both okay, Well, they're both equally powerful because with
Speaker 2: clear courts it's kind of a jack of all trades.
Speaker 2: You can use it as a substitute for anything, you know,
Speaker 2: And if you wanted to take the properties of obsidian,
Speaker 2: of protective properties.
Speaker 5: Of obsidian and apply it to the clear courts, then yeah.
Speaker 2: That's possible. Basically, Yeah, it just depends on the user,
Speaker 2: you know, because I feel like the reflective surfaces of
Speaker 2: them are totally different. In my my my eye, through
Speaker 2: my eyes, they're totally different. But I mean, I think
Speaker 2: I think either or is a very good tool. But
Speaker 2: I wonder if you could.
Speaker 5: Do like a somehow do a combo, like have like
Speaker 5: them sitting next to each other.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh yeah, I'm sure you can make that
Speaker 1: work for you. It's to the individual.
Speaker 5: We can do like magical experiments and just push the limits,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and if you got clear quarts, it's very
Speaker 1: similar to like using a white candle.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like just how you said, almost the
Speaker 1: jack of all trades kind of situation.
Speaker 2: Also a crystal, I wish I had it ready to
Speaker 2: I know I have it right here somewhere by me.
Speaker 5: But it's called like the Sear's crystal and mine.
Speaker 2: It's like the rough on the outside, but the piece
Speaker 2: that's cut and shaved on the front is this perfect clear, smooth,
Speaker 2: reflective surface and it's a gorgeous crystal. I can see
Speaker 2: if I if I have it in the immediate like.
Speaker 3: And it's called thee yes it's.
Speaker 2: Like the Sears crystal. I believe that's what it's called.
Speaker 2: No key, no, my baby. I've got crystals everywhere, but
Speaker 2: I want to say, I'm about to just dump it.
Speaker 5: It's either in here or.
Speaker 1: It's in my all right, I said, I pulled it
Speaker 1: up right here, it says. A sear crystal off and
Speaker 1: referred to as a seer stone, is typically a naturally
Speaker 1: polished gemstone, commonly made from quartz or other crystals like
Speaker 1: amethysts or rose quartz. These stones are believed to be
Speaker 1: used for divination and accessing intuitive insights.
Speaker 3: I love me some amethysts, dude, you know, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, let's see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Destiny is another question for you, Dear brit said, with
Speaker 1: pendulums you can, I think. Yeah, with pendulums you can
Speaker 1: use a matt to hold it over that has letters
Speaker 1: or whatever. So couldn't the same negative entities come through Theoretically.
Speaker 2: Essentially, any divination tool that you use, anything negative can
Speaker 2: come through.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what the tool is.
Speaker 2: It just matters on one your intention or if you're like,
Speaker 2: if you're conjuring, it just really depends. You can conjure
Speaker 2: evil up, you know, with your pinky toe if you
Speaker 2: really wanted to but yeah, if you leave yourself open,
Speaker 2: wide open for that energy to come through.
Speaker 5: Which actually, okay, I see where they're going with this.
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you if you do any kind of work, right, So,
Speaker 2: whenever I'm trying to think of how I want to
Speaker 2: go into this, well.
Speaker 1: She kind of touched up on the question a little
Speaker 1: bit and she said, maybe the Wija board has a
Speaker 1: bunch of negative energy already attached to it from the collective,
Speaker 1: and that's why more negative interactions might occur.
Speaker 2: Right. That's also something I'm glad she brought that up,
Speaker 2: because that's also an addition to me, like saying I
Speaker 2: think it was created with ill intent, you know, it
Speaker 2: was created from a negative aspect, but having everyone collectively
Speaker 2: believe that it is negative, of course, it's you know,
Speaker 2: like attracts, like you know, like speaking into existence enough
Speaker 2: and you're going to get that result.
Speaker 5: So that she makes a very good point.
Speaker 2: I love that, you know that she brought that to like,
Speaker 2: you know, out to the attention of all of us,
Speaker 2: you know, and anybody else watching and whatnot.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean that's that's fact.
Speaker 2: If you are going to speak something into existence, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna call, you know, call something what it
Speaker 2: is or what you think it is. Enough, and you
Speaker 2: have all these other people doing it, then yeah, of
Speaker 2: course you know it's gonna it's gonna manifest in its
Speaker 2: own way.
Speaker 5: But oh no, where was I?
Speaker 2: Oh I had something I was going, Oh I remember.
Speaker 5: I remember, what's the basis of it was? But it was, oh,
Speaker 5: calling negative things in like being.
Speaker 2: So I had this experience recently, and me and my
Speaker 2: boyfriend are on the spirit box and I have a
Speaker 2: theory it's I call it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: an actual theory or I coined it. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it, but I call it the lighthouse theory. And like,
Speaker 2: you know, how like they have like like we're the
Speaker 2: spiritual plane and our plane they're like on top of
Speaker 2: each other. So I always kind of visualize it like
Speaker 2: Hollywood probably has made it look where it's like the
Speaker 2: Sepia black and white maybe tone whichever one. But like
Speaker 2: how spirit can will wander around town. The same houses
Speaker 2: are there on both sides. You know, we're all seeing
Speaker 2: the same houses, the same trees, the same streets. But
Speaker 2: the difference is we most of us can't see the spirits,
Speaker 2: but the spirits are going to see us just minding
Speaker 2: our business in our home, you know, right. So we
Speaker 2: had spirit come in and he was a twelve year
Speaker 2: old boy. I absolutely adore this spirit. His name's Harold.
Speaker 2: And mind you, kids are very blunt on the other side,
Speaker 2: they're not as cryptic as adult spirits. But he comes
Speaker 2: in and he's you know, I was like, how did
Speaker 2: you how'd you find us? You know, because he said
Speaker 2: he was just wandering around, he was bored, He's just
Speaker 2: walking around and he saw us and he just decided
Speaker 2: to come on, come on in. And the way I
Speaker 2: have my place warded is that only those for your
Speaker 2: highest good can come in. Now that's not to say
Speaker 2: I haven't had demons literally come through the spear box
Speaker 2: saying let me in, and I'm like, fuck all the
Speaker 2: way off, you know, like your mama, you know, like
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I just cuss them out and you know,
Speaker 2: I'll burn stage and get rid of them. But he's like,
Speaker 2: I just came in, you know, and I just was
Speaker 2: seeing what was up, you know, and hanging out with
Speaker 2: all the other spirits in my house, and you know,
Speaker 2: went on and I was like, okay, so how did
Speaker 2: you find us, and he was like, well, I just
Speaker 2: saw a really bright light and I came toward it.
Speaker 2: I was like, so you can see we're light on
Speaker 2: the other side like an aura, right, Like we radiate
Speaker 2: a light like an aura. And he said yes, exactly,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, So it's like I believe. And
Speaker 2: every time I see it in my head, it's like
Speaker 2: kind of like the instead of the light going outward
Speaker 2: so far, it will kind of like glow off of you.
Speaker 2: But I feel like as far as we're a concentrated
Speaker 2: amount of light, it'll shoot up like a bat signal,
Speaker 2: you know. So the brighter the light, which means that's
Speaker 2: the more magical in tune awakened healed version of yourself.
Speaker 2: The more you awaken, the more you heal, the more
Speaker 2: you tap in, the brighter you get. Right. If you
Speaker 2: give lower blah blah blah blah blah, the denser you are,
Speaker 2: the less bright you are, and your colors changed. So
Speaker 2: we changed our auras. Our auras our colors will shift
Speaker 2: and change depending on like where we are in our journey.
Speaker 2: But I asked him, I was like, so it's not
Speaker 2: just white light, right, And he's like, no, no, no, colors,
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, well what color am I?
Speaker 2: And he said royal blue, and I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: I gotta look that up, you know, to see what
Speaker 2: royal blue means. But and I did. I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all want to look it up,
Speaker 2: but royal blue. Each color is very like, has a
Speaker 2: specific meaning to it, and I know it's a I
Speaker 2: know that royal blue was a very powerful color. And
Speaker 2: I was like, hell yeah. So he just was just
Speaker 2: sitting there talking with us. I asked him, you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, if you want to, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: very curious about all these other things. You know, I
Speaker 2: am if you want to, if you're comfortable, I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, how did you die? You know, stuff like
Speaker 2: I know it sounds very rude, but I was respectful
Speaker 2: about it. He did not want to talk about it,
Speaker 2: and I respected that boundary, so I did not press
Speaker 2: further on it. But I don't know what time frame
Speaker 2: he was from what era, But every time I imagine
Speaker 2: or think about him or feel his presence, I it
Speaker 2: feels either like early nineteen hundreds, maybe maybe eighteen hundreds
Speaker 2: when he.
Speaker 4: Died, he don't.
Speaker 2: He won't tell me what it is, but I feel
Speaker 2: like he may have passed from like some form of.
Speaker 5: Big bad disease or something.
Speaker 2: That was going around, yeah, like suberculosis or a plague
Speaker 2: or something like that. That's what I always kind of feel.
Speaker 2: I don't don't think, but I mean that maybe just
Speaker 2: what he I don't know if that's right. I'm normally
Speaker 2: and I don't normally don't say to second guess yourself,
Speaker 2: but I just don't want to.
Speaker 5: Assume to be rude because he could have been murdered,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just trying to make me feel like maybe
Speaker 2: if I make her feel like it was a disease,
Speaker 2: she wouldn't feel so bad that I was murdered, you know,
Speaker 2: or something like that. He just didn't want to talk
Speaker 2: about it, which is what makes me think that maybe
Speaker 2: it wasn't the disease.
Speaker 5: He just didn't want to relive the trauma.
Speaker 1: That's very well possible.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: The Royal Blue is often associated with protection, comfort, authority,
Speaker 1: and it symbolizes loyalty and trust. Says. It is linked
Speaker 1: to spiritual figures like archangel Michael and represents a connection
Speaker 1: to the divine and inner strength.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's confirmation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for giving me that booth. Oh and speaking of
Speaker 2: arch angels, I've actually come into contact with Gabriel and
Speaker 2: Akata on many occasions, Cocat on many actually, well Gabriel
Speaker 2: here lately a lot, but Hakat she's come through with
Speaker 2: me a lot. She when she sought me out, because
Speaker 2: she normally will choose you because she's the mother of witches.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know who she was when I first
Speaker 2: was in like introduced to her, like the way she
Speaker 2: came to me energetically, I had no clue who she was.
Speaker 3: But I think that's actually that's actually really fascinating when
Speaker 3: that happens, when an entity comes to you and you're
Speaker 3: not even aware of who this thing is, what energy
Speaker 3: they would put off, what you know, attributes or characteristics,
Speaker 3: and then you look it up and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't even know about this person.
Speaker 2: Because I heard her the first time, and I'm actually
Speaker 2: wearing a necklace that's for her cockey. But well, the
Speaker 2: first time I was in my apartment. Jonathan knows my apartment.
Speaker 2: I was in my apartment and I was just having
Speaker 2: a me night. I was doing my makeup, I had
Speaker 2: a little drink and drink and I'm just listening to
Speaker 2: music vibin, you know, and then I hear this name
Speaker 2: in my head over and over and over again. It
Speaker 2: was like a broken record. It would not stop until
Speaker 2: I scratch that itch.
Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, I'm looking it up. I
Speaker 5: don't know what this means, but I'm looking it up.
Speaker 2: And I saw like Mother of Witches, she seeks you out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is awesome. So I'm I'm familiar
Speaker 2: with her recently, I want to say, at least within
Speaker 2: the last year or two this happened.
Speaker 1: She like a she's like a krone right like the oldest.
Speaker 2: Of labeled a demon, but she's a crossroad demon. She's
Speaker 2: she's just the mother of witches. She's a beautiful dt.
Speaker 2: I think she comes originally from like Greek stuff. She
Speaker 2: helped hersephony and whatnot back then, but she's definitely like evolved,
Speaker 2: I think across like the way, like just she's she's
Speaker 2: just like the Mother of witches essentially, and other things
Speaker 2: like her her primary like symbols or like keys, torches,
Speaker 2: black dogs, just all kinds of stuff. She is absolutely
Speaker 2: beautiful energy. She has made made in mother chron so
Speaker 2: she is like three separate beings and she's absolutely breathtaking.
Speaker 1: I see here it says she is associated with crossroads,
Speaker 1: night light, magic, witchcraft, drugs, and the moon. Her earliest
Speaker 1: appearance in literature was in Hesiod's Theogyny in the eighth
Speaker 1: century BC, as a goddess of as a goddess of
Speaker 1: great honor with domains in the sky, earth and sea.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a Greek.
Speaker 2: Yeahs. I hate that they label her demon because she
Speaker 2: is a goddess. Like she is. She's a very powerful deity.
Speaker 2: And what's crazy was is like me and him were
Speaker 2: doing like like we had different old We had old phones,
Speaker 2: so we had about five old phones to get like
Speaker 2: collectively we had five old phones and then including our
Speaker 2: phones that we use on a regular basis, So we
Speaker 2: had apps installed that were more of the Dictionary spirit
Speaker 2: boxes versus the radio style. They all had different ones.
Speaker 2: They were all different apps. Right, they're going off in tandem,
Speaker 2: Angel Archangel, Gabriel, Angel arch Angel, Hierarchy, like back and
Speaker 2: back and forth.
Speaker 5: Then I'm just like getting goosebumps again.
Speaker 2: They're just going off one after the other, just boom boom, boom,
Speaker 2: and we're like looking at you like what is happening?
Speaker 2: And you can feel the energy and what's uh, what's
Speaker 2: going on? Beautiful? They were all going off in tandem
Speaker 2: and the energy you can feel the energy just like rising.
Speaker 2: It was just so electric. And then right after Gabriel
Speaker 2: like where after you felt him come in, then he
Speaker 2: kind of looks down at his phone and then he's
Speaker 2: like Goddess and I'm like which one, which one is it?
Speaker 2: And he goes kat, I'm like, mother, yes. So like
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I got to get out
Speaker 2: the good china, you know, stuff like I don't have.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, like I just I was
Speaker 2: so elated to have them here. So that right there
Speaker 2: should tell you in a sense of from like the
Speaker 2: Christian aspect, it's like, okay, so why was Gabriel coming in?
Speaker 2: And he held the door open for Catte too, like
Speaker 2: a gentleman, you know, and they both showed up together
Speaker 2: to let me know that what I'm doing is good.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 5: Where we approve like we want my ears ringing? Oh
Speaker 5: that was loud.
Speaker 2: I felt like somebody was like hey, like right.
Speaker 1: In my ear, Well, I'll tell you what though, I
Speaker 1: mean your and we've talked to a lot of very spiritual, psychic,
Speaker 1: witchy magician, I mean, you name your flavor. We've talked
Speaker 1: to a lot of different people who are very well
Speaker 1: in tuned, and I will say, you know, just from
Speaker 1: my own personal experience with you, I mean you are connected.
Speaker 1: There is something I mean, I would almost say spooky
Speaker 1: with how connected you are. It is crazy, like I mean,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten readings from a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: especially doing this show, but I also used to be
Speaker 1: you know, my podcast used to be inside of a
Speaker 1: crystal shop. I was around psychics off fucking day, right,
Speaker 1: and you will always stand out like just the way
Speaker 1: that how I mean it is. It is like I said,
Speaker 1: it's just fucking something spooky about it. So just out
Speaker 1: of curiosity and but go ahead, you know, continue continue.
Speaker 1: I'm spiritually fanboying over here. But uh, I know that
Speaker 1: you do offer tarot readings, you know, and and you
Speaker 1: do them a lot cheaper than what most people will do.
Speaker 1: So I'm very thankful to kind of have you on
Speaker 1: our side over here, but to kind of try and
Speaker 1: express how amazing you are. Now you don't know shit
Speaker 1: about Seawan right, like Shawn's a brand new person going
Speaker 1: to be because she already gave me a reading.
Speaker 3: I want to was this though?
Speaker 1: You know it was pretty reybeah okay, like a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, whenever I tried to get her own.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but but yet if you could, I don't know,
Speaker 1: are you feeling are you feeling a little witchy right now?
Speaker 1: To give Sean a reading?
Speaker 5: Three sixty five days, week day. Sorry, I would love to.
Speaker 2: So let me see, babe, we like.
Speaker 5: One more uh orange candle? We like one more orange candle?
Speaker 2: Thank you? So?
Speaker 5: I love using candles like a lot.
Speaker 2: Especially with like doing stuff like this because it helps
Speaker 2: them me. I don't know, it sets the mood.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a temple setting.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's it's a whole vibe. Let me see
Speaker 5: what do I want?
Speaker 2: So? Okay? I want you to think of three general questions.
Speaker 5: Don't say them out loud. Think of three general questions
Speaker 5: of things that you want to know. If you don't
Speaker 5: have any.
Speaker 2: Specific questions and you just say I want like a
Speaker 2: general I want you to tell me something that's for
Speaker 2: my highest good, Reveal something that I don't know what's
Speaker 2: hidden secrets anything like that. If you're like, what what
Speaker 2: do I need to know? That is, you know, going
Speaker 2: on behind my back? Or if you have like a
Speaker 2: love question, let me know and I'll use specific deck.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like if I don't feel like
Speaker 2: your questions are going to be like purely on love,
Speaker 2: I get a sense you're more into the like darker part,
Speaker 2: like the shadow. You know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 2: want to I want to see. I want to see
Speaker 2: under of the rug, you know, behind the curtain. I
Speaker 2: want to know. Like we'll worry about love later, worry
Speaker 2: about like all that stuff with I'm not even worried
Speaker 2: about that right now. Let's see do I want to do?
Speaker 2: Do you't want me to use terrow or do you
Speaker 2: want me to use oorcle. I'm split right now because
Speaker 2: it's like I might end up using a little bit
Speaker 2: of both.
Speaker 1: Just give it the old ami, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess we'll start with Taro. Okay, Yeah, we'll
Speaker 5: start with Taro. Hold on, they said, go ahead and
Speaker 5: open up the other one.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do question it, don't question it.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see and so oh I do want to
Speaker 2: put this too. I don't know if I mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 2: For anybody that wants to like read, I want to
Speaker 2: say I did say this earlier. But if you are reading,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you still need to reference your book
Speaker 2: ten years down into your reading. Do not feel bad
Speaker 2: about referencing your book. If anything, it like clarifies and
Speaker 2: proves that you were in the right direction anyway.
Speaker 1: So yep, Oh, We've been doing the show for two
Speaker 1: year two and a half years now, and we still
Speaker 1: use our books. So no shame in that, although we're
Speaker 1: trying to get a little bit more intuitive with it
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie, like, uh.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, Like I know all my cards,
Speaker 2: but sometimes I'm just like what does that mean to
Speaker 2: reverse again?
Speaker 5: Like I just I don't always remember.
Speaker 2: Let me see hold on, sorry, I have like hit
Speaker 2: problems because I'm geriatric anyways, let's see. Also, I think
Speaker 2: like long hair does have a way to like connect
Speaker 2: to with spirit because now that my hair has gotten
Speaker 2: this long, like I don't want to cut it, but
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna have to trim it at some point.
Speaker 1: Sor antenna, you know, I'm trying to grow mine back out.
Speaker 1: It's it's getting there, you know, it's it's starting to come.
Speaker 3: Your hair grows quick, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was back in February I was
Speaker 1: completely bald. Yeah, but I've been using a lot of
Speaker 1: biot in shampoo. Not to show my gay, but I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, I always get so excited because I know that
Speaker 1: the magic is already.
Speaker 3: It's already happening right now, dude.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, here's somebody in here, both sides already. Man.
Speaker 3: I wish I could just turn it on like that.
Speaker 1: You know, that's so cool. I think it's something that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you work with every day, probably comes
Speaker 1: a little easier.
Speaker 2: So this is sideways a cup sideways, so.
Speaker 3: Even could do sideways you see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tilted left or right now. I'm actually new
Speaker 2: to the left or right side. I've been working with
Speaker 2: chat GPT for that one. So. Well, there is a
Speaker 2: lady in your life. This is there is some kind
Speaker 2: of woman in your life. Yes, there is, and it
Speaker 2: does involve like your happiness.
Speaker 5: Plays a big role in it.
Speaker 2: So even though this wasn't about love, and it may
Speaker 2: not be love.
Speaker 5: Well is well emotional fulfillment.
Speaker 2: Remember you were saying saying like, Okay, maybe you didn't
Speaker 2: ask about love or anything or like your personal life,
Speaker 2: and they're saying, you may not have asked about it,
Speaker 2: but maybe something you you asked what you needed to
Speaker 2: know for your highest good.
Speaker 5: So if it doesn't evolve, if it involves.
Speaker 2: That question, then I guess that would fall in the
Speaker 2: category because they're like, Okay, well we're gonna give this
Speaker 2: to you anyways, because okay, okay, okay, three cards, okay,
Speaker 2: one more, one more O the bottom of the deck
Speaker 2: the High Priest. Now there's a couple of cards in
Speaker 2: this deck that are different than what's in the original deck,
Speaker 2: so those are not a part of this. Like this
Speaker 2: would be the Higher Fan, so it's the same thing,
Speaker 2: and the other cards that are different did not pop out,
Speaker 2: so but it would be the Status side, which would
Speaker 2: be the Devil card. Anyways, so let's see. So the
Speaker 2: bottom of the.
Speaker 5: Deck is the High Priest.
Speaker 2: So that shows you're learning lessons right now. He's giving
Speaker 2: you the keys. He so you have this this guy
Speaker 2: that's teaching you things and the way he's not going
Speaker 2: to tell you the answers that he's going to guide
Speaker 2: you to the answers. So you're gonna get there, but
Speaker 2: he's not just gonna give you to you, because then
Speaker 2: how are you going to learn? You know, right now
Speaker 2: there's this with this being sideways to the left. I
Speaker 2: gotta look that.
Speaker 5: I have to look that up. This is emotional fulfillment.
Speaker 2: So if you look at it and you see like that,
Speaker 2: the happy wife's happy.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite cards. Actually, yeah, it is.
Speaker 5: A beautiful card. It is wish fulfillment.
Speaker 2: All your cups are full, life is grand, right, nothing's
Speaker 2: going to break your stride, nothing's gonna take you down,
Speaker 2: you know. So kids are playing house in the background.
Speaker 2: Just beautiful picture, but it's sideways, so like petering, there's
Speaker 2: something that's like blocking not blocking it, but it's like
Speaker 2: there's a reason it's not fully upright, let me hold on.
Speaker 2: I like I said, I'm new to doing sideways left
Speaker 2: or right, so I actually need to look that one up.
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't even know you can do sideways,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I wasn't always in doing it like that,
Speaker 2: but just intuition and it took over and I just
Speaker 2: started asking those questions and I'm like, okay, and they
Speaker 2: do have energetic meanings left versus right too. Let me
Speaker 2: see where's PATCHYBT is such a fantastic little tool.
Speaker 1: M there's a bunch of different ways to read them.
Speaker 2: What's the interpretation for that? Then? Right? So the down
Speaker 2: So if it was to be if it was to
Speaker 2: be reversed, it would have been dissatisfaction, not seeing the
Speaker 2: magic or joy within your life, feeling like an outsider
Speaker 2: in your family or coven or being used as escapegoat.
Speaker 5: So it's like in the middle.
Speaker 2: So it's like it could sit this way and it
Speaker 2: could sit that way. The energy is slipping backward, returning
Speaker 2: in an old pattern. It's not blocked, but it's not
Speaker 2: fully upright. It's a transition leaning towards the past. So
Speaker 2: this does have to do something with your past, and
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's probably that Queen of Cups. It's in transition,
Speaker 2: leaning towards the past, default habits, old cycles. You want
Speaker 2: a motion of fulfillment, you want home peace final finally
Speaker 2: to feel safe energetically, but something from your past is
Speaker 2: still influencing how you react or trust. It is definitely
Speaker 2: that Queen of Cups.
Speaker 5: I know what happened.
Speaker 2: It looks like, but I'm not fully letting myself believe
Speaker 2: that I can keep it. You have that fear of
Speaker 2: losing what you love, not fully trusting peace when you
Speaker 2: have it, past betrayals influing current decisions.
Speaker 5: So wait, hold on, is it the Queen of cup
Speaker 5: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Wait, it could be the Queen of Cups?
Speaker 5: Hold on, m hmmm, I might need to clarify her.
Speaker 2: Let's see, financial stability is coming, but you're not building
Speaker 2: it the same way you were raised or taught, breaking
Speaker 2: ancestral patterns. But it's not smooth, breaking generational curses, creating
Speaker 2: a new family structure, rewriting wealth and loyalty rules. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That was pinnacles, nevermon. I don't know why
Speaker 2: she broke it into that. I did not say pinnacles.
Speaker 2: My bad. But if you heard that message, maybe it
Speaker 2: was meant to hear. Anyways, if I read it energetically,
Speaker 2: ten pickles didn't pop out, the message came out all.
Speaker 2: The thing I wonder, is this Queen of Cups the problem?
Speaker 2: Because with the four wands, the celebrations, So the Queen
Speaker 2: of Cups, she's very typically, she's very nurturing, very emotional.
Speaker 2: That's it's it's a water sign cancer, pissy scorpio. And
Speaker 2: she's like just very loving, very affectionate. She's very home
Speaker 2: like take care of the family like like she's very loving,
Speaker 2: giving nature like nurturing, sorry, nurturing. She's very just in
Speaker 2: tune with her emotions. She's intuitive as well. So with
Speaker 2: but then you have like under it is celebration for
Speaker 2: wand and that's celebration, that's that's you know, weddings, celebrating events, milestones,
Speaker 2: births of a child. But then you have the star
Speaker 2: reverse like this is maybe a dynamic of a relationship
Speaker 2: where it's like maybe maybe y'all both need to work
Speaker 2: on something. Hold on, there's a lot of info com
Speaker 2: and hold on. I'm like, hold on, let me down,
Speaker 2: because that's just let you cook. I feel like it's complicated.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a complex thing. So yeah, celebration,
Speaker 2: rejoicing over a happy event, freedom, parties, baby, bridal showers, sabbage, celebrations, fertility, creativity,
Speaker 2: freedom of expression. But then the star pops up in
Speaker 2: the stars in reverse, so it's very tit for tat energy.
Speaker 2: It feels like like it's very confusing.
Speaker 3: I will say, if you don't mind, like there's a
Speaker 3: lot like in the balance right now. My wife is
Speaker 3: actually just about to finish school, and so we're like
Speaker 3: both of us are trying to push through this time,
Speaker 3: and so it it's like it can go either way.
Speaker 3: And then of course, you know, she graduates and we
Speaker 3: are able to make more money, and then there would
Speaker 3: be cause for celebration. And so I mean, you're really
Speaker 3: hitting on a lot of stuff. So I just thought
Speaker 3: i'd clarify that for you.
Speaker 2: I would thank you because I was like, it's not
Speaker 2: a woman from the past. You still like you're still
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 5: You're with this person. That's what I was feeling.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's my wife.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so your wife, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have it.
Speaker 2: So y'all are going to be celebrating probably her coming
Speaker 2: from school, but maybe something like else. You're gonna get
Speaker 2: multiple celebrationss like maybe another baby can come from it,
Speaker 2: or just other things that would lead to a celebration
Speaker 2: because of her finishing school, getting the career.
Speaker 4: Out of it.
Speaker 5: And you know what I'm saying, like other milestones from that.
Speaker 2: Let me see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you said milestones, I was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: like her graduating would be like an ultimate and you know,
Speaker 3: we were just talking about that today. I believe as
Speaker 3: far as as far as the day that she graduated
Speaker 3: high school to the year, I mean the year that
Speaker 3: she graduated high school as opposed to the year that
Speaker 3: she's going to be graduating college, it's like two decades
Speaker 3: you know in between, and so it was just like
Speaker 3: this lining up. That's love that And the thing that
Speaker 3: I told her was like, well, you know, yeah, it
Speaker 3: took a while, but like we decided we wanted the family,
Speaker 3: and so we did that first, you know, and so
Speaker 3: now you're working on yourself and we're we're working working
Speaker 3: as a team and really trying to make make it happen,
Speaker 3: you know, and trying to build you know, our our
Speaker 3: situation into a better one. And as far as like
Speaker 3: the generational curses, you know, like that that tracks as well,
Speaker 3: because I mean her and I both kind of came
Speaker 3: from you know, poorer families, you know, and so now
Speaker 3: my kids are going to be able to experience like abundance.
Speaker 5: You know, family dynamic.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, So the issue I think is what's connected
Speaker 2: to because being at the Queen of Cups is upright,
Speaker 2: and the four Wands is up that's good. But the
Speaker 2: star in the reverse is what's tilting the tin of cups.
Speaker 2: So this is pessimism, delay, delay, doubt, spiritual blocks. This
Speaker 2: is allowing fear to get holds she's having doubts or
Speaker 2: if she's overstressed about something and she's so just worried.
Speaker 2: Because if it's like if she's expecting this track to
Speaker 2: hit a date and let's say something happens to where
Speaker 2: it may not be that date. Now I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that that's what that is, but maybe she's fearing that
Speaker 2: just like she don't want her to manifest it. She
Speaker 2: needs to stop stop being so hard on herself. Is
Speaker 2: her worst critic, and it's like, yeah, you're you're you're
Speaker 2: her truth leader. You're like, no, babe, Like you're a goddess.
Speaker 2: You're the smartest person I've ever met. You know, like
Speaker 2: you could, you know, you could do a million great things.
Speaker 2: But she's not said she might need to do some
Speaker 2: shadow work so she can get rid of that negative talk.
Speaker 2: Because and one of the things that somebody had said
Speaker 2: a while back that I'd heard and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's genius. So whenever she's going through those moments of
Speaker 2: negative talk. She'd be like, whenever you hear those thoughts,
Speaker 2: is it your voice?
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's never your voice. It's always the voice of the
Speaker 2: people who put you down throughout life. And whenever people
Speaker 2: click on that it helps with the negative self talk.
Speaker 2: She can always like write it down on paper to
Speaker 2: burn it and release it. That helps a lot too.
Speaker 2: But it's not like now, Brandon, like, I don't think
Speaker 2: it's going to be tilted to where y'all are going
Speaker 2: to be miserable because of her, you know, having just
Speaker 2: doubts or you know whatever, And she's just like, is
Speaker 2: this worth it?
Speaker 5: Is it gonna work?
Speaker 2: You know? Am I doing the making the right wrong decision?
Speaker 2: Tell her that even let's just say, even if okay,
Speaker 2: you do the schooling, you get through, when you graduate college,
Speaker 2: you go into that field for a little while, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, ten years later, you realize
Speaker 2: that you've switched and you never really went to what
Speaker 2: you went to college. That happens a lot like when
Speaker 2: I went to college in the medical field. I did
Speaker 2: the work I did, I got jobs afterwards, but I
Speaker 2: learned that I really wanted to own a metaphysical shop
Speaker 2: and run a which sanctuary in the long run, that
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the medical field, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So tell her just no matter what
Speaker 2: she's doing, she's on the right path. And this directly
Speaker 2: affects you and comes out in your reading because she
Speaker 2: is like your world.
Speaker 5: You know, she is a part of your world.
Speaker 2: She's part of your energy, and it stinks together and
Speaker 2: kind of affects you and you affect her energetically and
Speaker 2: in ways. So it's like coming out. So because it's
Speaker 2: like happy wife, happy life, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like she's happy, You're happy, everybody's happy. And I get
Speaker 2: a sense too. I want to pull another card just
Speaker 2: to clarify because with the events, I keep wanting to
Speaker 2: reference a new child in the future. Because of the
Speaker 2: ten A cups energy, this also is another representation of children.
Speaker 3: So she has said that she has always wanted to adopt,
Speaker 3: and so that might be something in the future as well.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, no, it doesn't always have to be the
Speaker 2: birth of a new child from her body, but it
Speaker 2: is a new addition and that child will have to
Speaker 2: be born. So but I do I do get the
Speaker 2: sense I keep wanting to reference back a child will
Speaker 2: come from this celebration of this milestone, you know, like
Speaker 2: coming from like the success of wherever she's headed in life.
Speaker 2: That a child will will.
Speaker 5: Come from this.
Speaker 2: So I want to pull and see if there's any
Speaker 2: more clarification. And then I still feel the need to
Speaker 2: pull from the te deck real quick.
Speaker 3: She goes really in depth.
Speaker 2: I like it the moon reverse. Something's hidden, there's where
Speaker 2: the there's where the tea's coming in. Okay, something's hidden,
Speaker 2: something's hidden? What is hidden? What is hidden? I feel like,
Speaker 2: oh there is so the reverse for the moon is confused, interception, deceeed, anxiety,
Speaker 2: feared that can still boil into the starvers. But I
Speaker 2: just the reason I keep so eager to pull from
Speaker 2: the tea deck is because I feel like there's that nugget.
Speaker 2: There's something. I don't know what it is or what
Speaker 2: it's connected to right yet, but there's something that's confusing,
Speaker 2: something that's trying to Okay, who hasn't who has a
Speaker 2: weird obsessive X anyone trying to sabotage I doubt.
Speaker 1: That I have a couple of them.
Speaker 3: I guess I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: Y'all don't have an upset none, like, neither of y'all
Speaker 2: have an X. That's weird, right, like that you're aware
Speaker 2: of because remember where we pulled the moon, So this
Speaker 2: is secret energy.
Speaker 1: Well what's funny is and weird that you say that
Speaker 1: because that weird X that you're referring to. It's actually
Speaker 1: if it's about me, I don't know. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to make everything all about me, but it's actually her
Speaker 1: birthday today.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, No, this is I was pulling for his
Speaker 2: energy specifically, but I'm gonna do I'm gonna get to you,
Speaker 2: Jonathan unless, like I want to say, in her fearing
Speaker 2: and his energy. But normally, when I call on a
Speaker 2: specific energy, it's channeled to that specific person. So the
Speaker 2: only reason the wife pops up is because they're they're
Speaker 2: a unit. So it's it's an ex maybe one of
Speaker 2: your exes, do you what? Do you don't have any
Speaker 2: crazy exes from before?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have any access, Like my wife is my
Speaker 1: first love?
Speaker 5: Are you her first?
Speaker 2: No? It might it could be it's either okay, it
Speaker 2: says lover, so it had to be somebody that she
Speaker 2: would would have been intimate with.
Speaker 5: The only other thing I can think of is if
Speaker 5: that maybe you have.
Speaker 2: A dedicated viewer that envisions you as a lover. That's
Speaker 2: the only way I can see that dynamic being in
Speaker 2: that you don't know that this person on that level.
Speaker 2: You never have because you stated that your wife is
Speaker 2: the one and only, which is so beautiful by the way,
Speaker 2: which makes it definitely more intimate in the soul bond.
Speaker 2: But you could have.
Speaker 5: A stalker as far as like a fan, you know.
Speaker 2: Because the reason I say that is because Rupie popped
Speaker 2: out and that's what is that. That's that's a hardcore fan, right,
Speaker 2: So if it's not her ex, because it's giving female,
Speaker 2: Like there's two women, there's women. That's all I see
Speaker 2: is women. So it could be some woman that follows
Speaker 2: this thing. And I bet you if she's watching this,
Speaker 2: because if she is, she's dedicated. She's watching every episode,
Speaker 2: every episode. She's like, she's on to me. She's obsessed something,
Speaker 2: she's obsessed with.
Speaker 3: You, like, so she may I don't even think I
Speaker 3: had fans, So I'm just I'm just happy I I
Speaker 3: got one. I got a fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can be excited, but you don't want to
Speaker 2: feed into her ego, you know, because she's gonna if okay,
Speaker 2: if she if she hasn't shown herself yet, she will,
Speaker 2: like so worry about that because I feel like this
Speaker 2: be suspicious because there's going to be a psycho fan
Speaker 2: that comes through.
Speaker 5: She's going to maybe is.
Speaker 2: And it could turn into one of those things where
Speaker 2: she's got a shrine of you in her room and
Speaker 2: she's trying to manifest that you and your wife's break up,
Speaker 2: you know, and so she could be with you or
Speaker 2: she's gonna try. She's going to be a groupie, a
Speaker 2: super fan. So if she hasn't already logged into being
Speaker 2: a fan now, she will soon become a fan and
Speaker 2: be like a hyper fan, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like the type to write you letters, you know, in
Speaker 2: fan mail that's upset, sending you locks of her hair, that.
Speaker 1: Kind Oh wow, shout out to a right good to know,
Speaker 1: good to know.
Speaker 2: Aware of that. But I mean, I see though, as
Speaker 2: long like the pessimism thing, I feel like y'all are
Speaker 2: going to knock that out of the park, and it's
Speaker 2: just gonna upright because I just I don't see it.
Speaker 3: I feel that too. Yeah, Yeah, I feel that too,
Speaker 3: you know. Well yeah, that's kind of how it's been.
Speaker 3: You know, I really try to just you know, there's
Speaker 3: times where I, you know, just kind of get out
Speaker 3: of the way and let her do what she's gonna do.
Speaker 3: And then there's other times where I really try to,
Speaker 3: you know, help motivate her. And you know, it's funny,
Speaker 3: is because some of that rubs off and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, within her little friend group, you know, it's
Speaker 3: at school, she's that for them, you know, and so
Speaker 3: it's kind of like emanating outwardly. And so as far
Speaker 3: as you know, the card turning up right, like I
Speaker 3: already feel that, Like I feel like it's already a knowing,
Speaker 3: Like that's where where we are going with that, right,
Speaker 3: I have no doubt.
Speaker 6: Try to work with her this kind of pinpoint where
Speaker 6: this negative self taught comes from, since she can learn
Speaker 6: how to properly feel that side of her so that.
Speaker 2: She no longer manifests it into her reality or has
Speaker 2: the threat of it manifesting into her reality. And honestly,
Speaker 2: if you know you don't know like where to start,
Speaker 2: Chatgypt is great with that.
Speaker 5: Any tool is sure to.
Speaker 1: Use the Chat GPT like for school and everything else.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's very familiar with that. Once she gets
Speaker 3: through with school and gets into her field and everything
Speaker 3: is good to go, Like I can see it even
Speaker 3: a mushroom trip in the future, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So, but recommend like on her downtime, like during the
Speaker 2: school session, so it doesn't bogger down. She can do
Speaker 2: that release of the do the shadow work, and pop
Speaker 2: will definitely do prompts, questions, everything, as long as you're
Speaker 2: wording everything right and it doesn't go get policy right.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. She can be her her own biggest
Speaker 3: critic though, you know, and really have some of that
Speaker 3: negative speak. But you know, we're going to get through it.
Speaker 2: She's a water sign, right, or she's got it in
Speaker 2: her chart Earth sign, Earth sign, Okay, so it's gotta
Speaker 2: it's in her chart, she's gotta have. It's gotta be
Speaker 2: in her Big three or her but it's in her
Speaker 2: natal chart somewhere awesome.
Speaker 5: But Earth does hold water, so.
Speaker 3: It yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, well that's great too.
Speaker 1: As far as you know her support system, Sean is
Speaker 1: like the most supportive man to a wife that there
Speaker 1: has ever been.
Speaker 2: Like a beautiful thing. That's where that obsessive lover is coming.
Speaker 2: Into handy to where she's gonna pop in because she's
Speaker 2: gonna know that mm hmm, I want that instead of
Speaker 2: eating it on her own. She's gonna be like I
Speaker 2: want him.
Speaker 1: Like Sean beats his wife, he beats out all.
Speaker 3: I need to act like a jerk on here a
Speaker 3: little bit more.
Speaker 2: No, I love you, honey.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. That was very in depth. I
Speaker 3: didn't even even realize. You know, you can go into
Speaker 3: that depth with with the terribating. It's really impressive, deeper
Speaker 3: like I'm sure you could. No, that's I'm impressed. You
Speaker 3: were saying so many key words in there. I had
Speaker 3: to like jump in and be like I.
Speaker 2: Was confused. I was like, no, this energy is so no.
Speaker 1: It was making total sense to me.
Speaker 3: So that's what I was like, let me just help
Speaker 3: you out a little bit, because I was like, wow, impressive.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of the same thing too.
Speaker 2: If I read for couples or whatever, I'm like, like,
Speaker 2: if I'm reading for a couple, I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2: But when I was, I was like, Okay, so if
Speaker 2: y'all have y'all got any secrets, you better now because
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm gone out right.
Speaker 3: You're going there, We're going there.
Speaker 2: We're going buddy. If spar want to say you cheating
Speaker 2: and know you're cheating, you cheating, honey, Like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell it like it is. I'm not going to sugarcoat
Speaker 2: it by any means. You know.
Speaker 3: That's great. See, I would be terrible at that because
Speaker 3: I would be trying to sugarcoated, you know, I'd be like, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, something maybe not good. Like I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: able to just be like, look, this is what's going on.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd be trying to beat around the.
Speaker 2: Bush too heavy if it's too heavy, like I worded
Speaker 2: in a way where I'm like, come on, we're yeah right,
Speaker 2: I'm like, so there's this like this energy with this
Speaker 2: and maybe there was some you know, like come on,
Speaker 2: like figure it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's sound like a guide would right, Destiny
Speaker 1: if you would? Would you mind pulling a one card
Speaker 1: for the show? You know, normally at the end of
Speaker 1: every show we like to pull a one card sometimes
Speaker 1: to pop out and that's all right, but uh, but
Speaker 1: typically you know it's uh, it's part of the tradition
Speaker 1: over here. Would you mind doing that.
Speaker 3: And I pulled one earlier, so I'll let you know.
Speaker 3: It would just be really interesting if it was the
Speaker 3: same one for for this episode. You know, the energy
Speaker 3: of this this episode in particular, let's go. I love it,
Speaker 3: and if it's wrong, I just won't say anything.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not wrong. It's not the car, and
Speaker 5: make sure.
Speaker 2: I really probably should have done this before I started reading,
Speaker 2: because typically I need it.
Speaker 5: I cleansed it recently, but typically I try look how
Speaker 5: worn that is.
Speaker 2: So often I use it. Typically I like to like
Speaker 2: reset the deck till all upright, you know, but it
Speaker 2: really if they want to pop out the right way,
Speaker 2: they will.
Speaker 5: But I feel pulled to do this very quickly.
Speaker 1: Hold on, and I pulled the card that I pulled
Speaker 1: like maybe twenty or thirty minutes into the episode Beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's been just sitting.
Speaker 2: Here so spirit, y'all could have told me to do
Speaker 2: this before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's on us.
Speaker 5: That's our bad that, like des spirit, they could have
Speaker 5: told me to do this.
Speaker 3: That's how you're talking to us.
Speaker 2: I see that one.
Speaker 1: We are the spirit. We're actually not even here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were physical.
Speaker 1: The old ones are back.
Speaker 3: Okay, the illusion is real, all right.
Speaker 2: We don't have time, Jonathan. And it's like, after the show,
Speaker 2: I can still do a.
Speaker 1: Pull for you if you would like, Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: getting that.
Speaker 2: Because I know, I know you loved the reading I
Speaker 2: did for you recently.
Speaker 3: I always he needs it.
Speaker 2: He got a really good reading.
Speaker 5: The other day.
Speaker 3: He needs another one that.
Speaker 2: Was a pretty lit reading, like and I'm hoping that
Speaker 2: it's kind of echoing what I did the other day
Speaker 2: as far as because it had to do with the show.
Speaker 1: Okay had destiny. Just so you know, that's that's a secret.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Like the.
Speaker 1: No, I know it's really good. It's it's it's a
Speaker 1: good secret. But it's gonna be something that we're gonna
Speaker 1: start talking about in like two weeks. I don't I
Speaker 1: just don't want to say it yet.
Speaker 2: Oh I already forgot about that part. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I got to see what you mean. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: it was a good reading.
Speaker 1: Energy you forgot. That's all right, Let it slip.
Speaker 2: Let it. That's how I'm good at keeping secrets.
Speaker 5: I don't always remember.
Speaker 2: Let's see, so we're pulling, we're asking about the show,
Speaker 2: or do you want do you have a person.
Speaker 1: Well, you can either pull one for this specific episode,
Speaker 1: or you can just pull one for meta in general.
Speaker 3: We typically do one for the this episode, just kind
Speaker 3: of the vibe of the episode. Dude, I'll trip out
Speaker 3: if it's the same card. I'm just saying, no pressure,
Speaker 3: and then I'll know for fact that, like you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, even if not, it's still a clarifier I think,
Speaker 3: but still fun.
Speaker 5: So that's goods.
Speaker 2: I'm pull personal What.
Speaker 1: Was it nine of one's you said eight ace?
Speaker 3: Oh ah, not the same one that's bottom of.
Speaker 5: The deck, nine of swords.
Speaker 2: Stress. Somebody's overthinking or a drama queen kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But this is just keeping you up at night, thoughts,
Speaker 2: keeping you up at night stressing, overthinking a situation. So
Speaker 2: eighth of ones is a very beautiful, potent card. That's
Speaker 2: like new beginnings. Let's see. Oh I have a reflocks
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, yaya, all right, let me see. So
Speaker 2: it's like new beginnings. It's like just creative energy. It's
Speaker 2: a very male like the it's masculine energy for sure,
Speaker 2: very potent, very just intense. So we have let's see creativity, courage, optimism, ambition, career, business,
Speaker 2: positive starts, a birth or transformation, maybe a new home,
Speaker 2: hard work, turning ideas into a successful reality, and the
Speaker 2: element of fire they do want me to express like
Speaker 2: because it didn't even though it didn't come in the reverse,
Speaker 2: they want to tap into not always being able to
Speaker 2: see the happiness right in front of you.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like not I don't want to
Speaker 5: word that.
Speaker 2: It's not like being able to sit down and enjoy it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like you're like Moore and
Speaker 2: I work harder, harder, Like no, it's back and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Like you, you don't understand how good you're doing. You
Speaker 2: don't understand how you know. First of all, it's part
Speaker 2: of the process where you're at versus where you're good
Speaker 2: because you remember, Okay, thank you, huh. They were like
Speaker 2: telling this, but I remember you prayed or manifested one
Speaker 2: point in time to be exactly where you are now.
Speaker 3: Yes, So.
Speaker 2: Now that you're in this moment and you kind of
Speaker 2: like you're so lost up and caught up in the
Speaker 2: just life and wanting to push for better, you forgot
Speaker 2: that once upon a time you wished where you you
Speaker 2: wanted to be where you are now. So it's just
Speaker 2: taking a step back and just appreciating, like how far
Speaker 2: you've come, you know, and all asked. So let's see.
Speaker 2: That was like the show and a personal in that one.
Speaker 2: But then for you also up pulled the justice card.
Speaker 2: This is a personal one for you. This could be
Speaker 2: a potential court case coming for whatever reason. Legal why
Speaker 2: is something that could pop up. Also, it's getting justice
Speaker 2: for a situation the scales are going to balance out
Speaker 2: for you, or you're going to receive the justice for
Speaker 2: a situation that was unfair and the moment, but it
Speaker 2: needed to play out that way for karma to set
Speaker 2: it in for the parties that needed to set in
Speaker 2: for So you're going to get your justice for a situation,
Speaker 2: whether it's obvious right now it will be so, but
Speaker 2: if it's a if it's a situation that's going to
Speaker 2: be coming up, you know, like you're going to get
Speaker 2: the proper justice for that. So also interesting enough to
Speaker 2: I know that these aren't the same readings, but when
Speaker 2: I pulled the higher fent earlier, that also means seeking
Speaker 2: out legal advice. And I know it was for his reading,
Speaker 2: but I just think that's funny, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: that because y'all are going y'all are doing the show together,
Speaker 2: it might tie in somehow.
Speaker 1: This is part of the secret that I can't talk about.
Speaker 1: So I'm just letting you know that, like you're hitting
Speaker 1: on all cylinders as usual.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to go back into our messages and
Speaker 5: peep it.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 1: All good things, all good things. By the way, it's
Speaker 1: nothing bad, so it's.
Speaker 2: Working in your favor. But I definitely think that, like
Speaker 2: like since they were like remember the Higher Fan and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, so they're doing the show
Speaker 2: together because like him and his wife are in Tantam
Speaker 2: and that energy, and then him and him are on
Speaker 2: TIMM this ship. Okay, so it's all tied in together.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Giant, it's.
Speaker 2: Good and I can't wait to not only see it happen,
Speaker 2: but like, you know, be a guess of being kind
Speaker 2: of like as a guest being a part of it.
Speaker 3: So I would forge that, Oh you're coming back for sure,
Speaker 3: we appreciate you coming on here being a part of this,
Speaker 3: you know, because it's happening now in real time.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I love it. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: It is Sean, what was that card? That you pulled,
Speaker 1: good sir, I got the five of ones.
Speaker 5: Oh, arguments, fites, disputes.
Speaker 3: It's only thought that they were like are they arguing?
Speaker 3: Because I was looking at this earlier and I was
Speaker 3: like trying to interpret what what exactly is going on?
Speaker 3: You know, are they working as a team? Are they?
Speaker 3: Are they not? Are they?
Speaker 2: That's like arguments, but it's it's with more than one
Speaker 2: person kind of arguments with amongst coworkers, colleagues, friends, stuff
Speaker 2: like that, just other people that have difference of opinion.
Speaker 2: See why does it sound like kind of part of
Speaker 2: Jonathan's other reading I did for him in private.
Speaker 1: You remember that you need to calm it down, Destiny.
Speaker 2: I'm not giving it away. I'm just saying the jealousy
Speaker 2: is there for some aspect. Oh, there's a download. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I should say that out loud or
Speaker 2: if I should.
Speaker 3: Wait after the show.
Speaker 1: After this it is it bad or what?
Speaker 2: It's the jealousy thing?
Speaker 5: Okay, how can I word it without being too obvious?
Speaker 2: Hmm? You you took all the good luck kind of
Speaker 2: it's how the view is going to be and mad
Speaker 2: that one thing is going to go up while the
Speaker 2: other one drops down and mad about it because how
Speaker 2: the energy is now replicated there. It's not, it's just
Speaker 2: the energy is going to the vibration will.
Speaker 1: Drop say less I got you.
Speaker 2: I think you got it. I'll be flat out.
Speaker 3: After but yeah, you know what, I think he's picking
Speaker 3: up what you're putting down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, you smell what I'm cooking.
Speaker 1: It's actually a fear of mind that that that that
Speaker 1: happens that way, but hopefully it doesn't.
Speaker 5: If anything, it's a it's kind of karmic because.
Speaker 2: You know the energy, the energy is weird, and we
Speaker 2: know that, we talked about it. So it's like kind
Speaker 2: of with the negative tone coming from that aspect, you know,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a karmic kickback for that.
Speaker 5: But that's what needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all divine timing, you know, don't don't question
Speaker 1: it kind of thing. But yeah, and and honestly, for
Speaker 1: the one that are listening out there, it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: we're not trying to be cryptic. It's just that I
Speaker 1: can't say anything for a couple of more weeks otherwise
Speaker 1: I would And like I said, all good things, nothing
Speaker 1: to worry about. It is something to look forward to,
Speaker 1: not something to be worried about. So yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: all good shit. So Destiny, of course you're fucking tapped
Speaker 1: into all of it. Dude, of course you are.
Speaker 3: It's just I was. I was impressed when she was
Speaker 3: saying certain things and like she was trying to figure
Speaker 3: it out. I already knew exactly what she was trying
Speaker 3: to figure out, and I was like, oh man, so clear,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy fascinating decity. If you would, could you
Speaker 1: let everybody out there know where they can find you.
Speaker 1: Maybe you have an email you want to give out,
Speaker 1: or social media or anything like that. Anybody wants to
Speaker 1: reach out for a reading potentially, Oh.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a special. I haven't, like, I guess I
Speaker 2: haven't gotten down to like the exact perfect point of
Speaker 2: the special. But I don't know first five people that
Speaker 2: book are reading with me. I don't know. Within the
Speaker 2: next what forty eight hours or so, I'll do a
Speaker 2: special deal of some sort and I'll surprise as you
Speaker 2: so because like my readings will range from like twenty
Speaker 2: to sixty, I actually do more of a sliding skill
Speaker 2: on that typically, but for a basis, so we'll do
Speaker 2: like a special deal or something like buy one, get
Speaker 2: one free bogo.
Speaker 5: I don't know something, but it'll.
Speaker 2: Be a special deal. So you can buy me on
Speaker 2: TikTok at desdeasyy dot k or is it? Is it
Speaker 2: dot k? I want to say maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have to double check on that one. Let me
Speaker 2: see where.
Speaker 5: Yeah we can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll double check on the link. You can find
Speaker 2: me on Instagram das k eighty nine. Again, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to verify all these because I'm not like I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't rememberize it for some reason. Destiny
Speaker 2: King on Facebook it's a picture of me and my boyfriend.
Speaker 2: So we'll do the URL for that one as well.
Speaker 2: And I don't have any official website yet. Oh I
Speaker 2: have a link tree again, I gotta look that one up.
Speaker 2: And I was in a TV but you can buy
Speaker 2: me on link three too, So just DM me just
Speaker 2: say hey, I want a reading, you know, and we'll
Speaker 2: go from there.
Speaker 1: All right. That yeah, to confirm it is DESI dot
Speaker 1: k on TikTok.
Speaker 5: I believe so, hey, baby good, he's got a telephone going.
Speaker 1: Uh look well, look a look at my.
Speaker 2: TikTok candle, look at my TikTok candle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just did.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Oh you did?
Speaker 1: Okay, never mind, all right, well yeah either way. Look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put it all down in the show notes
Speaker 1: for anybody that wants to be able to reach out
Speaker 1: to you, maybe come for reading. Obviously, the readings tonight
Speaker 1: were very intuitive, very very connected, and there's just something
Speaker 1: really special about that, you know, and it's it's these
Speaker 1: kind of people that you want in your corner. You
Speaker 1: want a good witch in your corner, you know, like
Speaker 1: you never know if you're gonna fall on hard times,
Speaker 1: maybe you got something that you just can't really figure out.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: The witches can see right through that shit. That's just
Speaker 1: what they're good at, you know. Oh yeah, so yeah, so.
Speaker 5: I can't speak on other witches, but I know my
Speaker 5: intentions are pretty good.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Well, thank you so much, Destiny for coming
Speaker 1: to hang out.
Speaker 2: This was a really fun one, dude, had so much fun.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we'll have you back again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Look, you know, typically at the end of every episode
Speaker 1: we like to do a little meditation. You don't have
Speaker 1: to join if you don't want to. Normally it's like
Speaker 1: a little ten or fifteen minute meditation we listened to.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a guided meditation or some four hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty two Hurtz kind of stuff really, and then well
Speaker 1: we'll just like kind of shoot the ship. See what
Speaker 1: maybe we you know, experienced in that moment. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a fun time. But I know that we've already
Speaker 1: we've already kept you like way longer than we said
Speaker 1: that we were going to. But if you want, you're
Speaker 1: more than welcome to join.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I might get up and get it,
Speaker 2: like a snack or something, so my cat should be
Speaker 2: in the Nope, none of them are there. Okay, one
Speaker 2: of them will up, but I'll be I'll be in
Speaker 2: the vicinity and I'll just come right back with my snack.
Speaker 1: So perfect, all right, Well, Sean, any parting words for you,
Speaker 1: good sir?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm I'm just like I said, I'm press.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I find it very fascinating when when somebody is doing
Speaker 3: what they do, you know, and then you know certain
Speaker 3: moments where she's like, oh I just you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: thank you. You know, like you're you're catching these little
Speaker 3: hints or you know, little downloads or little winks from
Speaker 3: the universe, whatever you want to call it, that that
Speaker 3: is happening there. I find that very fascinating and I
Speaker 3: would love to be able to tap into whatever is
Speaker 3: going on there. You know that's that's just yeah, I
Speaker 3: can help with that. Oh yeah, well, I mean we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to have you come back and maybe you
Speaker 3: can teach us that, because I feel like that's very
Speaker 3: very awesome to just be able to be like, oh.
Speaker 5: I have to tell you'll open my third eye.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, we'll be here, nice little shout out there.
Speaker 1: Well look, yeah, we're gonna get over that meditation. But
Speaker 1: we do want to say if you want to be
Speaker 1: able to join in on the conversation, it's always a
Speaker 1: very fun, exciting, surprise guess, a lot of intuitive kind
Speaker 1: of stuff that's coming. Sometimes it's witchy, sometimes it's magic y.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is wu wou. Sometimes it's spiritual. We're here
Speaker 1: for all that shit, bab and you know, just trying
Speaker 1: to totally engulf ourself in mysticism. That's what the show
Speaker 1: is all about. So if you like these kind of
Speaker 1: conversations and you want to be able to join us
Speaker 1: every Wednesday night. Then come over to patreon dot com
Speaker 1: slash metamistics. That link is down the show notes below.
Speaker 1: We have a several different tiers over there. We actually
Speaker 1: have a three dollars tier that will allow you to
Speaker 1: get all of the shows days in advance, completely commercial
Speaker 1: for you to be able to slide into our dms
Speaker 1: and just become part of the community. But if you
Speaker 1: want to be able to join for the live shows,
Speaker 1: you get all of that plus the live shows. And
Speaker 1: so that I believe is eight eighty eight. That's the
Speaker 1: magic number we got for that tier. So if you
Speaker 1: want to come check it out and support the show
Speaker 1: and maybe you find this information valuable, you know, show
Speaker 1: show a little love, you know, and come join the conversation.
Speaker 1: That's what we want, you know. That's why we do
Speaker 1: these live shows, so we can kind of have like five, six, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten different hosts going on all at one time, because
Speaker 1: you know, we all have that curiosity inside of us
Speaker 1: that maybe I might not ask the question that you
Speaker 1: would ask, and so it's just more of a group effort.
Speaker 1: It's all one thing.
Speaker 3: Baby, It's great. I look forward to these nights. I
Speaker 3: gotta tell you man. You know, I'm becoming like I
Speaker 3: need my Wednesdays. You know, that's just how it is
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: And next Wednesday, Optimistic Banks is back, so that'll be
Speaker 1: a fun one. Of course, that'll be a fun one, yeah, dude.
Speaker 1: So anyway, go and check those those links down in
Speaker 1: the show notes below if you want to go and
Speaker 1: find Destiny, or if you want to go and sign
Speaker 1: up on Patreon, that link is. Those links are all
Speaker 1: down below. But I think we're going to get over
Speaker 1: to that meditation now. But if if Destiny came here
Speaker 1: and chats on you anything, it's that you don't know
Speaker 1: what you don't know, So don't just get weird.
Speaker 3: Stay weird.
Speaker 1: That was a solid one. Yeah, I got some pretty
Speaker 1: cool visuals there's you. Yeah, I kind of just I
Speaker 1: mean exactly what she was describing just kind of like
Speaker 1: being inside of a like a crystal cave and then
Speaker 1: laying your head on a moonstone covered in moss and
Speaker 1: it's not a nice mm hmm. Yeah, he's a fan
Speaker 1: of that. It's so interesting, dude, is because as soon
Speaker 1: as you start to play into what you're seeing into
Speaker 1: your mind, it almost comes alive. You know, there was
Speaker 1: something about the voice too, like she had like some
Speaker 1: wisdom and she was like guiding you through that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Something about that voice was was nice.
Speaker 1: Very calming. Yeah, that's our first time for going to
Speaker 1: that channel.
Speaker 3: What was that again? Yeah, let's let's remember that one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna subscribe to that one.
Speaker 3: Subscribe, like and subscribe dude, all right.
Speaker 1: We send a like over there too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go as well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was solid, dude, especially tonight being full.
Speaker 3: Moon, and yeah, dude, there's something there's something really myssical
Speaker 3: when it's like a legit full moon. Like when I
Speaker 3: went outside earlier, it was already like me maybe I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe twenty five percent up off of the horizon,
Speaker 3: and so it was still kind of like a little
Speaker 3: bit appeared bigger, you know, and which is really weird
Speaker 3: how that happens. You know, Like it's the same size
Speaker 3: at the horizon as it is when it's up higher
Speaker 3: in the sky, but it just looks so much bigger
Speaker 3: when it's when it's lower. But yeah, it's just so mystical. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like just like that's just just just out there, you know,
Speaker 3: I just just part of this thing, dude.
Speaker 1: So being out here in uh in Lake Havasu at
Speaker 1: like it with the way the moon comes up, It's
Speaker 1: like it's coming up behind the mountains, and whenever it
Speaker 1: gets to a certain point, it literally looks like it's
Speaker 1: being cradled by the mountains, by the mountain freaking out. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not in Louisiana anymore. I moved to Texas like
Speaker 1: a year and a half or so ago, like right
Speaker 1: around Houston, and uh now I'm actually out in Arizona,
Speaker 1: just temporarily, and then I'll be moving back to Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're thinking, oh, we're gonna get together do the
Speaker 2: shrewd Day. You're just not even in the safe state.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I still come out to Louisiana
Speaker 1: every two weeks though.
Speaker 5: Oh cool, okay, hell yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But either way, Hey, dude, Houston's only a little road
Speaker 1: trip away. It ain't that far.
Speaker 5: I know, I need to get a vehicle.
Speaker 1: I heard that. Yeah, well, dude, I mean, did you
Speaker 1: did you meditate this city?
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 5: I have to do a meditation a certain way.
Speaker 1: Everybody's different that way.
Speaker 2: It's different originally how I used to meditate, and it's
Speaker 2: not recommended. But I was like heavy drinker. And but
Speaker 2: like when I like, if I get the right buzz,
Speaker 2: like I'm right there, my inhibitions go away.
Speaker 5: I can calm this down a lot more.
Speaker 2: And there's this I'm not usually good with guided meditations
Speaker 2: because I don't know why. It's just too much noise
Speaker 2: for me. But there's sometimes there's that one or two.
Speaker 2: And I found this one guided meditation and it was
Speaker 2: it was I'm not gonna lie like in comparison to
Speaker 2: the professional ones. It was like like poor recording quality
Speaker 2: in comparison. But something happened like I was meditating and
Speaker 2: I could feel like the angelic beings like mixed to me,
Speaker 2: and I felt like I was I felt like I
Speaker 2: was in the universe, like just floating and spinning like
Speaker 2: on those like display spinners. You know. It was so
Speaker 2: cool and I was so mad. When I was coming
Speaker 2: back down, I was like, no, no, stay here. It
Speaker 2: was so good. It was slow, it was very slow,
Speaker 2: but it felt like I was floating. It was really
Speaker 2: really cool and my too. I wasn't like plastered or anything.
Speaker 2: It was just it was a It was a moderate buzz,
Speaker 2: so I was just enough to get the inhibitions to
Speaker 2: go away because there's a lot of stress in my
Speaker 2: life at the time. Nothing's changed stress wise, just it's
Speaker 2: different stress. But it just helped me meditate to just
Speaker 2: stop caring about everything else at the time.
Speaker 1: You're living in Louisiana, I mean, taking a shot of
Speaker 1: fireball for breakfast is like common.
Speaker 2: You know, pretty much to help me through this. But yeah,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, like I have to. Well, you
Speaker 2: can meditate with them or anything. So as long as
Speaker 2: you go into the state of mind, you're meditating, right,
Speaker 2: So sometimes it just depends. I'll use classical music or hell,
Speaker 2: sometimes Kevin Gates gets me in the mood.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like it doesn't have words,
Speaker 5: I'm good, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, it'll send you there regardless, I mean. And yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, dude, You don't even have to
Speaker 1: be sitting down to meditate. You can take a walk
Speaker 1: through the woods or you know, walk around the neighborhood
Speaker 1: or whatever and down, walk, sit, take yourself.
Speaker 2: Well you're comfortable meditating in a bubble bath pop tier.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is, I agree, a little ritual bath actions.
Speaker 3: Go yeah, some flowers in there.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's the way.
Speaker 5: I talked just about my apartment. I was in that
Speaker 5: bubble bath.
Speaker 1: Ritually, I can imagine, well, all right, well I think
Speaker 1: this was a lot of fun, dude, and we're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna have to do it again, Destiny, So you know,
Speaker 1: don't be a stranger.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not. I was gonna. Then you said
Speaker 2: you were in Houston. I'm like, so, what do you
Speaker 2: feel about those Houston Houston serial killers?
Speaker 1: Is there a Houston serial killer? Now? I told, oh,
Speaker 1: oh shit, all right, you have twenty two bodies oh damn, all.
Speaker 2: Right, found in by you around the Houston area, Like
Speaker 2: there was the Lady Bird Lady Bird Lake killer in Austin.
Speaker 2: They're not acknowledging him as a serial killer or the
Speaker 2: person is a serial killer, but I get it. You
Speaker 2: don't want to tip them off. There's a video on TikTok.
Speaker 2: I saw this cute little girl. She was like when
Speaker 2: I say little, like, she looked like she's in the
Speaker 2: early twenties. But she was like, I guess, walk in
Speaker 2: under this causeway or whatever. And the police were there
Speaker 2: because they found a body and right by where she
Speaker 2: was walking, and there was this other guy that was
Speaker 2: there that was not police or whatever, and this was crazy.
Speaker 2: She was like. They were talking about it and she
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, they pulled up another body.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I know, it's crazy, you know, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but yeah, that's not where I left them.
Speaker 2: Oh what you said? What, sir? Like? Yeah, like that
Speaker 2: sounded like a Freudian slip. Like he didn't mean to,
Speaker 2: but he got caught.
Speaker 3: Up in it.
Speaker 5: He was like, I don't know why they're pulling up
Speaker 5: here when I didn't leave him there.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, all of a sudden, I could get you.
Speaker 2: But then he tried to turn it around and he
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, I thought you were the killer.
Speaker 2: I'm like, look at that girl. She's so so freaking cute, walking.
Speaker 5: Mind in her business.
Speaker 2: You know, she's not the killer. He tried to double
Speaker 2: down and I'm like, oh, we see you, sir, We
Speaker 2: see you. So somebody people have been doing snapshots in
Speaker 2: the comments. They're like, we got it, you know.
Speaker 1: Like, but I'll be walking around in Houston anyway. I'm
Speaker 1: not with all that. I'm actually I'm gonna be moving
Speaker 1: out there. I'm getting a house out there, but not
Speaker 1: in Houston. It's gonna be like North Houston on the outskirts,
Speaker 1: kind of out in the country, which that's what I'm
Speaker 1: all about. I can't stand being in the city, dude.
Speaker 2: That makes sense to the division that I had actually, okay,
Speaker 2: like in my line up with that way, like at
Speaker 2: least within the vicinity, you know, like, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: know if y'all would be interested for the next time.
Speaker 2: But speaking of like serial killers, did I tell you
Speaker 2: about the cold case through the spirit Box that I
Speaker 2: was doing? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna try to channel one
Speaker 2: of the poor girls that just her body was just
Speaker 2: found in Houston. I'm gonna see if I can't channel her,
Speaker 2: maybe we can try to figure out who the killer is.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny too, is that Sean. I think
Speaker 1: it was like a like last week sometime you were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we got to get somebody on here
Speaker 1: with a spirit box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, I'm like literally just.
Speaker 1: Necrophonic that's already professional here, but this this thing is legit.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I guess we know what our next
Speaker 1: show is going to be about then, yep.
Speaker 2: So all right, well you can tell them about my
Speaker 2: cold case thing afterwards we'll do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we're just gonna wrap up the regular show
Speaker 1: and then we can talk the things, talk about the
Speaker 1: things we couldn't talk about, you know after so uh
Speaker 1: the one. We love you, and we'll see you on
Speaker 1: the flip side.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: See the small fater
Speaker 2: Cor cop