WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.520 It is the bottom of the hour, and so we 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:08.359 get to ask about moguls and training and find out 3 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:11.160 what's going on. Because there's a team that we follow 4 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:15.960 on a weekly basis here on the show, and there's 5 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:19.120 a postseason coming up in the second division in the 6 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:23.079 US Soccer Pyramid, and there's a particular team that we 7 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.800 do talk about and they made the playoffs. 8 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:26.960 We just don't know where. 9 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.199 We don't know where they're seated because we have one 10 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.640 final weekend in USL Championship to figure it out. So 11 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.079 we will ask our favorite mogul and training about what 12 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.079 it's like to experience the playoffs and get in there 13 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.240 and what it's going to be like. Time for the 14 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.880 Friday free kick with our friends from Beyond Goals Entering 15 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:45.600 and our buddy Michael Parker is hanging out with us 16 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:46.039 this week. 17 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:01.039 What is up? 18 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:02.880 Good morning? 19 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:08.079 So are you nervous? Are are you excited? 20 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.920 Rhode Island FC is in the playoffs and it's the 21 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:13.640 kings of the draws. 22 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:15.799 Got a good draw and you're going to be in 23 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:16.400 the postseason. 24 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.439 You don't know where yet, I think, because there's some 25 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:19.879 math and one more match to play. 26 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:21.120 But how does it feel? 27 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.159 I broke my I broke my sideline reporter a guidebook out, 28 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:25.680 and I just said, so, how does it feel. 29 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:26.319 How does it feel? 30 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.159 Cap It feels really good. Yeah. Obviously that was goal 31 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:32.159 number one going into the season. We wanted to be 32 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:35.239 a playoff team, you're one, and so we've accomplished that, 33 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:37.719 and yeah, we feel really good about where the team 34 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.400 is right now. The second half of the season has 35 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:43.920 been really strong for us, and so you know, we 36 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:45.840 know that we're going to have an away game. We 37 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:50.319 don't know where that'll be, but honestly, we feel confident 38 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:53.840 going into that game. You know, obviously we hope to 39 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:54.799 avoid Louisville. 40 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.640 Yes, that would it every just like, no, you can 41 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.319 have Louisville, I insist. 42 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:06.560 And probably Charleston, but yeah, I think everybody else we 43 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:11.400 feel we feel good about going in there, and so 44 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:14.439 we'll see. And selfishly, I hope it's Detroit or Indie 45 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.240 because those are quick little trips for me. 46 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:22.280 Yes, well, and going going to Keyworth to play Detroit City. 47 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.240 Danny Dickyo has done some great work there this year 48 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.400 with them, and it's uh, Keyworth is a pain in 49 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:32.000 the ass to go, it's to go play. 50 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:34.199 It's a tough place to play, no doubt about it. 51 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.319 And Indy eleven they play at the mic at Ouey Poui, 52 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:43.639 Indiana University, Purdue University, Indiana, Indianapolis, whatever they call it, 53 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.280 but the mic, the mic not as intimidating. 54 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.199 But I think that if you can avoid. 55 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:50.080 Going to ham Trammick and going to Detroit City, I 56 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.479 think that Detroit City can be had. I think Indy 57 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.319 eleven can be had. India eleven likes to score a 58 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.879 lot of goals, but I think that you guys defensively 59 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.719 can take something like that. So I like the idea 60 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.560 of the first round matchup, and I know that you 61 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.560 can take a little hot flight or maybe even hopping 62 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:07.879 the car and turn it into a golfing excursion while 63 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.599 you have the time left on the clock to do it. 64 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.719 I like where your head's at, John Well. 65 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.280 I mean, come on, somebody's got to play golf on 66 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.000 this show. And since I don't have the time to 67 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.159 do it, I anoint you to improve both of our 68 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:21.560 handicaps simultaneously. 69 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:23.439 I will gladly excite. 70 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:25.960 All right. 71 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.080 So we got a lot of different things to kind 72 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:33.280 of get into here that are somewhat postseason mentally related 73 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.319 Atlanta United, and I guess this is where I'll steer 74 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:41.400 us into the mentoring conversation. So Atlanta United goes into 75 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:43.680 the eight and nine. They go into a hostile environment, 76 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.439 they take care of business. They get out to the 77 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.479 early start, then it turns into too two. Then they 78 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:51.879 go to PK's and a forty year old keeper, as 79 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.400 we all know keepers age differently though, takes care of business. 80 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:57.080 And then they go to the next stage of this. 81 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:02.000 What is it when you have conversations with with mentees 82 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:07.759 about going into high impact emotional situations? Do you have 83 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:11.759 these conversations about controlling emotions and understanding the moment while 84 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:14.280 still trying to accomplish what you want to accomplish coming 85 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:15.000 out the other side? 86 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.279 For sure, there's no doubt about it. And I've spoken 87 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.959 to a few teams in high school that are going 88 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:27.480 into playoffs or going into championship games and things like that, 89 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.079 and the two messages I always tell them are one, 90 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.279 play to win the game, don't play not to lose, 91 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:41.000 and to expect the unexpected and expect that something will 92 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.720 go wrong. You will get punched in the face metaphorically 93 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.319 in the game. And what's going to be the reaction right. 94 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.680 Maybe you go down one zero, maybe you give up 95 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:52.680 a two goal lead, maybe you get a red card, 96 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:57.160 you know, who knows, Maybe the referee doesn't give you 97 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:00.800 obvious penalty. I don't know, but something going to go wrong, 98 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:05.439 and be ready to dig deep in those moments and 99 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:07.720 get over it and get past it quickly. 100 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:12.040 When you have a when you have a lead, like 101 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.879 Atlanta United did in this in this playing game in 102 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.079 a hostile environment, they handle everything well. But then you 103 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.800 get that moment with Brad where I think it was 104 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.959 because Gregorson was in his peripheral vision and you see 105 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:28.000 a shot coming in and you see something wobble and 106 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:29.759 you're like, okay, what was that? And you're instant, you're 107 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.240 distracted slightly, and then Joseph comes in for the slam 108 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.079 dunk to make it two to one. 109 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:36.720 You're in a moment like that. 110 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.439 You've got to shake off those moments too, and that's 111 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:42.639 what your teammates are for. That's what all those voices 112 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:45.199 and that experience is for, you know. I guess the 113 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.759 next stage is conversations emotionally about getting past those rough 114 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.160 moments and not turning it into quicksand I guess it's 115 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:54.680 probably the next topic here. Do you talk about quicksand 116 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:56.240 and how to avoid those kinds of things? 117 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.560 For sure? Yeah, for sure. It's funny. I just made 118 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.680 a phdeo doing a lot of video and mouths. 119 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:03.040 But they just made a. 120 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:07.079 Video because I saw is something happened in an FC 121 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.519 Dallas game. I'm pretty sure it was from last weekend, 122 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:12.680 and I don't know who the player was. He was 123 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.519 their defensive midfielder and it was late in the game. 124 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.759 I think they're winning two zero, and he gets the 125 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:22.319 ball in his own eighteen, makes a bad pass, but 126 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.160 the player takes a bad touch and it comes right 127 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.240 back to him. So mistake number one, no harm, no foul, 128 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.759 plays the ball out wide. It's not a good pass, 129 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.199 no harm, no foul. His teammates ends up getting to it, 130 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.199 he goes over to support, gets the ball back again, 131 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.920 and I talk about how at this point right now, 132 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.600 his confidence is shook because he gets the ball back 133 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:44.920 and he's got a second to look up and play 134 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.519 a wide open pass through the lines, and he doesn't. 135 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:50.079 And I talk about it's because his confidence is shot. 136 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.040 He was afraid to make this pass and so he 137 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.240 didn't make it. Then he gets closed down, tries to 138 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:57.240 play back to the goalkeeper, forward, reads the pass, intercepts it, 139 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.439 scores And it's not the first mistake. Usually that hurts 140 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.839 you the most. Right, if the first mistake might hurt you, 141 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:06.839 it might give up the goal, but usually it's not. 142 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.120 Usually it's a second it's a compound effect, and you know, 143 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.879 that's what we can't have. That's what we need to avoid. 144 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.639 Right We're not going to avoid mistakes, but can we 145 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:20.839 avoid the compound mistakes that are based off of basically 146 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.680 losing some confidence and not being able to get over 147 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:24.319 the first one. 148 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.560 How do you how do you develop short term memory? 149 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.879 I guess is the it's the whole goldfish mentality bit, 150 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.920 you know what that we've seen from Ted Lasso. How 151 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.560 how do you develop short term memory and being able 152 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.879 to put things past you? Because I would I would 153 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.319 think as an athlete growing up and then as a 154 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.759 professional that shutting those kinds of things off and then 155 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:48.879 just focusing on the next and going forward. That's got 156 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.639 to be one of the most difficult things out there 157 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.160 to try and be as an athlete, is to put 158 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.560 the past to the side, even though it's going to 159 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:58.680 be hanging on your shoulder and kind of reminding you 160 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:00.560 about what just happened here. How do you put that 161 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:03.199 fear aside? How do you put that activity aside and 162 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:04.319 focus going forward. 163 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.519 Yeah, that's absolutely one of the toughest things, and there's 164 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:12.600 there's no easy solution, and everybody's a little different, you know. 165 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.160 I think there's some younger athletes I talk to where 166 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.720 you try and have something, some sort of action or 167 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:24.480 voice or something that triggers your ability to get your 168 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.720 mind off of that and onto something else, like picking 169 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.639 up a blade of grass and throwing it, or telling 170 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.039 yourself a certain phrase that you've already come up with 171 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:35.559 to remind yourself to let things go, you know. And 172 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.519 I think it starts beforehand as well of not expecting 173 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.799 to be perfect, expecting to make mistakes. It goes into 174 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.840 it as well, because I think when you have that mentality, 175 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:52.759 it helps you get over it quickly rather than expecting 176 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.120 to be perfect and then you lament on it for longer. 177 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:59.399 So yeah, it's a challenge and you really need to 178 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.440 go through it, experience it, and that's why we say 179 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.960 that mistakes and losses and all these bad things make 180 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:05.919 you better in the end. If you're able to learn 181 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:06.279 from it. 182 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.399 What were your for lack of a better word, dismissers, 183 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.240 What were your triggers to put something past? Was it 184 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.279 a deep breath? Was it the blade of grass? Was 185 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.240 it you know, kicking you know, kicking air? What were 186 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.159 your what were your ways to get past that bad 187 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.279 moment when you had a chance to breathe and process 188 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:26.320 and move forward. 189 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.519 Yeah, for me, it was always I wanted to have 190 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:33.559 absolute full focus for like the next five minutes. It 191 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.879 was like, Okay, I've made a mistake right now, but 192 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.480 don't make another mistake here in the next few minutes, right, 193 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.919 really focus in, play safe, if you have to, right, 194 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.080 get into a tackle, do something, get in, get involved. 195 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.679 And also don't let the communication lack just because you 196 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:53.519 had a bad moment, like those types of things of 197 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.159 like trying to make sure, hey, stay in tune, stay 198 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.120 in tune, stay sharp here. Right, these are the moments 199 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.360 that your most susceptible to make another mistake, right, as 200 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:05.200 individually and as a team. Right, they say, like at 201 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.279 right after scoring a goal, Right, it's the most susceptible 202 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.480 time to giving up a goal. Right, It's because you 203 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.360 know you let your guard down for a minute, and 204 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:14.960 same thing. After you make a mistake, you let your 205 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:16.840 guard down a little bit, you're thinking about it, your 206 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:19.639 confidence isn't as high, and then boom, the ball comes 207 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.559 right back to you, because of course it does. And 208 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:23.559 are you ready? 209 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:26.279 It's just. 210 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.159 I you know, you look at those moments and you 211 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.440 try not to compound mistakes, and we talk about putting 212 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:38.519 that first mistake past you. Then you get those individuals 213 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:41.039 that apparently can't, and then you get into the whole 214 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.320 compounding of a mistake and it turns into one and 215 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.559 another and another and another, and then you can't get 216 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:49.679 out of your own way, it seems, and that that 217 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:54.000 to me, it's you know, while we talk about getting 218 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.240 past that first mistake is difficult, it's compounding those mistakes 219 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.240 then get back and it seems like the more the mistake, 220 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:05.120 the more difficult it is to get out of that, 221 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.120 to get out of that rut. Or is it just 222 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.200 that one shaking moment of confidence, even after you've had 223 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.279 just the worst day and your you know, your day 224 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:15.919 was ish and Soccer America gave you a two up 225 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.440 to that point, you get to that one moment. Is 226 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.799 it as simple as for an athlete that one moment 227 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:22.600 or does it have to be if you've had a 228 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:24.240 really bad day and you. 229 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.759 Had mistake, mistake, mistake, mistake, mistake and you can't shake 230 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:27.120 it off. 231 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.080 Is it as simple as that one good moment that 232 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:31.679 can move you forward or do you have to have 233 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:32.080 a chain? 234 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:38.919 Do you think? Or does it vary with the individual? 235 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.720 It does? But that John, this is what separates you know, 236 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.120 the okay to the good, the good to the best. Right, 237 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.080 This is what separates the best athletes. It's their ability 238 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.919 to get over these little things and not let them 239 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.039 affect them. Because anyone can do it well once and 240 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.039 anybody can do it well for a week or whatever 241 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.919 it is, right, But when you do get punched in 242 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.480 the face, when you do have a terrible game right, 243 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.919 mistake after mistake and it just doesn't go your way, 244 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:10.480 can you get back on the horse and can you 245 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:14.000 get it back on it quickly? And even in game right? 246 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.320 These are the things right And it's every single sport 247 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:23.799 that this is what separates so many athletes. And it's 248 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:27.159 not really anything to do with kicking a soccer ball 249 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.480 or shooting a basketball or anything like that. It's more 250 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:32.799 than mental space for sure, right, because they all can 251 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.440 do it. It's what got them to this place, and 252 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.399 it's what got a youth athlete to their travel team 253 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:42.480 or whatever. Right, But to get to the next step, right, 254 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.120 everything's going to get harder, and so how do you react? 255 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.399 And yeah, for good players, they that one good play 256 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.600 can overshadow it and get them back on track. 257 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:53.080 Right. 258 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:59.000 For somebody that's not as in tuned, they need a 259 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.720 whole good game or two good games or whatever it 260 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.000 might be, five good plays in order to start getting 261 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:06.840 over it. And sometimes that's too much. 262 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.679 Being an underdog going into a situation where everyone around 263 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.600 you is thinking, yeah, you're the underdog. The other team's 264 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.799 just gonna truck you, and this kind of thing. How 265 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.360 do you handle and how do you have conversation with 266 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:26.120 folks about understanding that, yeah, you might be an underdog, 267 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:29.000 but that's the outside noise. How do you in a 268 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.240 situation like that? And yes, I'm kind of talking about 269 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.679 a team that you used to play for. Everybody is 270 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:36.480 staring at one team and going, yeah, they're the nine. 271 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:37.159 You know, it's like. 272 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.480 They're going to Miami or Fort Lauderdale and they're the dog. 273 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:45.919 How do you put or channel the idea of no 274 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.639 one believes in us and channel that into positive energy 275 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.639 instead of letting the negative weight and everything else that surrounds. 276 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:55.919 Us today affecting you. 277 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:58.559 How do you channel internal as opposed to focusing on 278 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:00.559 external and letting that affect your playing. 279 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:04.120 Yeah, I honestly think that's pretty easy. That's that's what 280 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.039 brings teams together the most, right, is when everybody thinks 281 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:10.360 they're going to get crushed or lose or have no 282 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.639 chance right where it's like, hey, it's us against the 283 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.879 world out here, and nobody thinks that we have a chance, 284 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.360 and and that's a good way to play a lot 285 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.720 of times, right because it's like the pressure is totally 286 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:23.639 on the other team. There's there's no pressure on you 287 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.600 as a big underdog, right everything you go. If you 288 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:28.679 go out there and win, it's it's amazing. You go 289 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:30.320 out there and lose, and it's like, well, we were 290 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:36.720 expected to lose, So really it should free you up 291 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:40.240 to play a little bit more loose and take those 292 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.159 risks and go after it because you have to. Right 293 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.879 as the quote unquote worst team, you need to take 294 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.399 risks and do things right. You can't just go out 295 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:53.039 there and hope that you can have one moment and 296 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.799 just defend and do those things because you know you're 297 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.679 not the better team, right and you know, specifically to 298 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.159 Myami versus Atlanta. Yeah, and Miami is the better team, right, 299 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.559 There's that's that's fact. Does that mean they're going to 300 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:11.039 win the series? No, it doesn't. But you know, you 301 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:12.720 you need to do some things that are a little 302 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.960 bit special in order to pull an upset. And you know, 303 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.720 sometimes when you've got that mentality of us against the world, right, 304 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.879 it brings the team together a little bit and gets 305 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:23.720 it gets everybody on the same page. 306 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.440 How difficult is it in a situation like this to 307 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.440 focus on the front of the jersey and not the 308 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.759 name on the back, because you know that the Gulf Stream, 309 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:36.759 Galactic Coast, they're going to be out there and it's 310 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:41.440 going to be you know, Messi, Suarez, Busquets Alba, all 311 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.600 the young guns, all this kind of stuff. How do 312 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:47.120 you tell folks to focus on the crest and the 313 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.480 jerseys that you're going up against and not be intimidated 314 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.120 by your surroundings knowing that there are those big guns 315 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:54.639 that are on the other side like that. 316 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:01.360 Yeah, it's tough. You know, I think that it's easy 317 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.639 to get distracted by those three, but there there's a 318 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:06.799 lot of good players on Miami that can hurt you. 319 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.000 And so if you focus all your attention on those 320 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:16.679 two guys, especially right, there's then Julian or Gomez or 321 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:18.600 Campana or. 322 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:20.559 Or whomever. 323 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:25.480 Yeah, yeah, exactly the other English winger wherever he's from? 324 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:27.960 Oh, Robert Robert Taylor? Yeah? 325 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.720 Yeah, uh is he? Where is he from? 326 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.639 I think I think he's He's it's a weird one American, 327 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:35.080 like Sweden or something. 328 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.799 I didn't think he was an American, but it's a it's. 329 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.679 An it's it's like Robert Taylor, and it's an odd 330 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:43.039 it's an odd one that you wouldn't necessarily associate. 331 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:44.279 I think it's like Sweden or something. 332 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.799 Okay, but yeah, they've got a lot of pieces that 333 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:48.960 you can hurt you. I think the most important thing 334 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.360 for me, and I cannot, for the life of me, 335 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:56.679 John understand it, is I really hope that for Atlanta 336 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:02.279 that warning signs go up in your head when Messi's 337 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:05.279 got the ball, or Jordi Alba has the ball and 338 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:10.039 they always look for each other, or Messi runs after 339 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.599 he plays the ball, he runs deep, Like when I 340 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.400 watched that Revolution game from last week. I cannot believe 341 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.319 they let this guy run free. How can you not 342 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:22.799 run with him? I get it if he beats you, right, 343 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:28.160 that's one thing. But he always passes and moves always. 344 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.319 His movement is so good. So and I cannot believe 345 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.079 if Jordi Alba has one more cutback cross to Messi 346 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.279 at the top of the box for a goal, I 347 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.160 don't know how it happens. John, It's unbelievable. 348 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:45.559 It's there on tape. Finland is Robert. 349 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:46.720 Taylor by the way, Finland. 350 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.680 Yeah, so it was like it was something scanning. 351 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:53.559 But yeah, it's like this has happened on tape and 352 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:55.039 in person for years. 353 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:58.079 This is how this happens. How do you not know 354 00:17:58.119 --> 00:17:59.920 that this is going to happen when so and so 355 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.119 I was there then. 356 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.640 But one last thing, John, is I can't remember. I 357 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:07.960 tell you already. I went to the Miami Columbus game 358 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.319 here in Columbus a few weeks ago, and Columbus dominated 359 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.440 the first half. They played so well. It was like 360 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.599 the fortieth minute and I was thinking to myself, this 361 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.799 is the worst I've ever seen Messi play. He wasn't 362 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:24.200 completing passes. He didn't have the ball much anyways, because 363 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.440 Columbus had it a lot. But even when he did, 364 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.519 he was so bad, like the worst I've ever seen 365 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.960 him play, and I was thinking, godh this is crazy. 366 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.400 And literally six minutes later it's halftime, it's two zero 367 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.640 and mess He's got two goals. Right, So it's like 368 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:44.519 you can never ever let your guard down and that 369 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:47.079 but also to your point of like, hey, mistake after 370 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:51.759 mistake after mistake and then going right right back in it. 371 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.000 And that was why I wanted to ask about, you know, 372 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:58.519 handling the crest on the front as opposed to the 373 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:02.079 name on the back, because it can be something where 374 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:05.519 it does turn into quicksand you get that you're you're 375 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:09.759 even after forty five, say, and then a moment happens 376 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.319 and then you're Then it might shake you into this 377 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:14.880 idea of like, oh crap, yeah, we're playing Messi and 378 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.240 Suarez and alb and Busquets, and then the moment happens, 379 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.039 you get that second and then you turn into New 380 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.240 England and you give up six And fantasy players who 381 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:26.960 captained Messi and got double points had a field day 382 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.400 even though I only played like thirty five minutes speaking 383 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.960 from experience, but and that to me is just one 384 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.920 of those things where I think that maybe younger players 385 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.680 and we saw this when uh, when Messi and friends 386 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.519 were here in Atlanta. You had j Fortune, and I 387 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.279 want to say it was like Jay Fortune and Stean 388 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:48.599 Gregorson who may not necessarily have the other than maybe 389 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.480 watching on TV or something. You got young guys who 390 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:54.079 are just kind of like, yeah, okay, it's like, fine, 391 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:56.480 you're the guy with the ball. You're not Lionel Messi 392 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:59.240 with the ball. You literally had Messi at the top 393 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.079 of the d. You had three defenders collapse on him 394 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:03.960 and he couldn't do anything with the ball, and they 395 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.480 weren't intimidated by their surroundings Atlanta defensively. That's what I 396 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:12.160 was trying to understand is focus on this, don't focus 397 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:14.440 on that, and then you've got to you got you 398 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.519 can put all of that behind you and just focus 399 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:18.480 on your job. You can be locked in on your 400 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.000 job for ninety minutes in a situation. 401 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:25.839