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<v Speaker 1>The very idea of hinting at a conspiracy or a

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<v Speaker 1>false flag event was ridiculed and laughed off and considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be ridiculous. And yet this has happened time and

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<v Speaker 1>time again in history. Most of it isn't documented, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain cases where it was explicitly stated. One

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<v Speaker 1>of those places is with Operation Northwoods.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's up, guys. Welcome to the episode of the

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<v Speaker 2>No Way Jose Podcast. I am your host, Jose Gali Song.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we'll be talking all things Operation Gladio. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>joined today by Colonel Towner Watkins. This will be our

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<v Speaker 2>first time talking and it'd be a first time doing

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<v Speaker 2>an episode dedicated to Gladio only, which is actually kind

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<v Speaker 2>of surprising to reflect upon considering this show we typically cover.

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<v Speaker 2>But with that, let's go get the colonel in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to talking to her. Hey, how you

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<v Speaker 2>doing great?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's been I think kind of a long

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<v Speaker 2>time coming. We were talking before the show. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of people over the different times I've murmured

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<v Speaker 2>Gladio out of my mouth that have evoked your name.

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<v Speaker 2>And so finally here we are, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't really ever done a Gladio episode, so it

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<v Speaker 2>only makes sense now. I can't help. But notice I

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<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit. Me and you both have military service,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just saw that maybe it'd be an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>place to start off with because me and you had

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<v Speaker 2>similar but very different experiences from my understanding of your career.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to William's show You're You ended up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was full bird or a light colonel.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't recall full bird. Okay, all right, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes people say colonel and they mean a light colonel,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of colloquially. But I mean, I know maybe

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<v Speaker 2>colonels get offended by that. I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know that it is a thing lieutenant colonels do. But yeah, anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I was an enlisted man. So many in this show.

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<v Speaker 2>No hell, even my name is a pseudonym, because when

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<v Speaker 2>I started the show, I was I was active duty

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<v Speaker 2>military names Josh Galson, I'll say it. It's but it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything whatever, I keep the pseudonym for funzies. But

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<v Speaker 2>I joined active duty military. I did eleven years, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it took a couple of years reserves. After that,

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<v Speaker 2>I joked, the reserves don't really count, so whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a joke. It was really just a financial

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<v Speaker 2>gap to try to bridge it from one to the

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<v Speaker 2>other back to civilian life. But I did the enlisted

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<v Speaker 2>her out. I was a crew chief. I actually signed

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<v Speaker 2>originally as a seer instructor. I failed out in selection.

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<v Speaker 2>I made it near the end. Actually, surprisingly, no one

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<v Speaker 2>I think for my class made it through selection. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the recidivism rate for seer instructor for you. But

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<v Speaker 2>I got reclassed over to crew chief on the case

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<v Speaker 2>one thirty five, and I spent pretty much my entire

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<v Speaker 2>career over at McDill Air Force Base. I did about

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<v Speaker 2>six years as an isochronole crew chief, like a year

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<v Speaker 2>on wheel, entire handful on the flight line, did a little,

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<v Speaker 2>did some office stuff here and there. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of worked. It was a crew chief. And

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you say you were a crew chief, So

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<v Speaker 2>you did start as enlisted. No, you turn notchy if

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<v Speaker 2>you turned wrenches, So that's that's maybe I jumped to

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<v Speaker 2>the conclusion there ahead turned.

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<v Speaker 3>I spent eight years in aircraft maintenance, six years on

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<v Speaker 3>active duty in two years for a civilian airline with

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<v Speaker 3>my AMP license.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, so you're a better mechanic than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I never got my AMP.

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<v Speaker 3>Living for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, that doesn't count what you're military working for

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<v Speaker 2>a living. But it's it's interesting you did the full thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I bailed the four I got out. I would assume

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel I mean, I don't know. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't I guess I don't watch your show. Justly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly where you're coming from. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly myself. I got to part of one of many

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why I got out, mean the real life reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of just didn't agree with the mission. Disillusioned

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of a slog, kind of soul sucking every

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<v Speaker 2>day to continue to do something for a mission you

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<v Speaker 2>don't support. I find everything we've done in the I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. When I I joined. I legitimately was stupid

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<v Speaker 2>enough to think I'm gonna go kill Hodgi's and that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna somehow make the people in my life around me

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<v Speaker 2>freer and more safe. I grew up as every man

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<v Speaker 2>should and learned that that's a crock of shit, And

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it was a Smedley Butler wore as

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<v Speaker 2>a racket. And I mean not that I saw combat

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. I'm not even like, really, I feel almost

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<v Speaker 2>weird complaining, if anything, I was a crew chief, so

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<v Speaker 2>I just, if anything, it kind of almost I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like sanitizes it because I'm just turning a creucy, turning

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<v Speaker 2>a wrench. But the end of the day, you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm turning the wrench on a jet that, if

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<v Speaker 2>I was deployed, would probably be refueling a fighter jet

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<v Speaker 2>that might be dropping bombs on people. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you are part of this cycle of death and you

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<v Speaker 2>discovered about Gladio and it's like, I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>kind of really is one of those missing pieces of

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<v Speaker 2>the puzzle that you go, Holy Molly, what is going

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<v Speaker 2>on here? I mean, you devoted, you did much longer

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<v Speaker 2>than me, so I guess I'm just kind of curious

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<v Speaker 2>where your mind's been at with all of this. I mean, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>you went full on officer and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you first, when were you at McDill.

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<v Speaker 2>Joined in like twenty ten, so I probably didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>there roughly twenty eleven ish so and then I was

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<v Speaker 2>there I'm still I'm still in this area. I still

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<v Speaker 2>live here, but I don't I don't like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like down on that base anymore, but still

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<v Speaker 2>because I met my wife and everything nearby here.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was there from nineteen ninety nine to two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and two. I was assigned to US Central Command

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<v Speaker 3>over nine to eleven, So that was a very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>assignment for me. So let me just start by saying

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<v Speaker 3>that I initially joined the military to get my degree.

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<v Speaker 3>I originally came from a very poor family and no

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<v Speaker 3>one had ever went to college. My mom and dad

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<v Speaker 3>had never graduated from high school. So it was a

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<v Speaker 3>goal of mine that I set for myself, and the

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<v Speaker 3>only way that I was going to do that was

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<v Speaker 3>by joining the military, and I kind of did it

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<v Speaker 3>on a day. My dad told me that there was

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<v Speaker 3>no way in hell I was ever going to make

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<v Speaker 3>it in the military. So that was kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>the clique for me, and I loved being an aircraft

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<v Speaker 3>maintenance It's all I ever wanted to do. When I

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<v Speaker 3>applied for a Rotzi scholarship, the only thing that I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do was be a maintenance officer because our

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<v Speaker 3>maintenance officer sucked. They were you know, you know, very

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<v Speaker 3>well pe majors, and they really suck. And so my

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing, my thinking at the time was I can

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<v Speaker 3>do a much better job. And I looked at all

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<v Speaker 3>the guys that I worked with, and they just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be maintenance people. They just wanted to fix aircraft

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<v Speaker 3>and no one was taking care of them, and that

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<v Speaker 3>bothered me to no end. So when the Air Force

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<v Speaker 3>decided to make me a personnel officer after I graduated

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<v Speaker 3>from Indiana University, I was mad. I was really mad.

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<v Speaker 3>So my mission after that was to spend the next

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two years using the personnel system to help people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I became one of the biggest pains in the

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<v Speaker 3>butt to the people at the Air Force Personnel Center

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<v Speaker 3>because I was out in the field helping people and

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<v Speaker 3>I would help them write bcmrs when the system screwed them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was kind of The commanders loved me because

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<v Speaker 3>I took care of the people, but my peers didn't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily like me because I knew how to get around

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<v Speaker 3>the system and I like doing that. I'm a rebel

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<v Speaker 3>at heart. I've always been a rebel at heart, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I kind of being a support officer allows you

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<v Speaker 3>to be exposed to a lot more missionaries than you

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<v Speaker 3>would be if you're like a space officer or a flyer,

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<v Speaker 3>because you fly one aircraft or in one command the

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<v Speaker 3>entire time, that type of thing, so you're in one community.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you may be a fighter pilot and go

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<v Speaker 3>to USAFE, you or ACC, but you're still in that community.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got to see all kinds of mission areas.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was stationed at Sanvito, Italy where it was

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<v Speaker 3>an intel mission. I was at the Pentagon, I was

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<v Speaker 3>at Andrews, I was all over the place, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I just got to see a lot of the Air Force.

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<v Speaker 3>I got selected go to Air War College after I

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<v Speaker 3>left McDill. I thoroughly enjoyed that because I'm an avid reader.

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<v Speaker 3>I only read nonfiction. I probably at this point have

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<v Speaker 3>over six hundred books, and it's just what I like

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<v Speaker 3>to do. However, as you just pointed out, what I

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<v Speaker 3>now realize is professional military education is more of a

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<v Speaker 3>room that they put you in and they give you

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<v Speaker 3>lots of information, but it's just this information. You're only

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to look at this. And you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>the good officer that every time the Chief of staff

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<v Speaker 3>released the ten recommended reading books every year, I read

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<v Speaker 3>every single one of my own, all of them for

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<v Speaker 3>like about a fifteen year span, and fought the good

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<v Speaker 3>fight and decided to retire. Well, I was medically retired, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>and at the thirty year point coincidentally, and so in

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<v Speaker 3>doing all of that, the first couple of years I

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<v Speaker 3>was retired, I did a lot of reading, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>all nonfiction, but it was still along the same lines

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<v Speaker 3>of reinforcing what I thought I already knew. So about

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<v Speaker 3>three years ago I picked up a book that was

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<v Speaker 3>written by Antony Sutton, and Antony Sutton wrote a trilogy

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<v Speaker 3>of books that because my primary education higher education was

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<v Speaker 3>in business, I have a business bachelor's degree, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a business master's degree, and then I also got the

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<v Speaker 3>master's degree from Air War College. And so I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm fairly well read at this point. And Antony Sutton,

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<v Speaker 3>in a very well documented trilogy, talked about how the

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<v Speaker 3>Bolshevik Revolution, the Nazi, the Hitler's rise to power, Nazism,

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<v Speaker 3>and FDR's campaign were all funded by the exact same people,

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<v Speaker 3>and that kind of hit me like a ton of bricks,

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<v Speaker 3>and so then I read Cynthia Chung's book The Empire,

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<v Speaker 3>in which the Black Son Never sets And basically now

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<v Speaker 3>at this point I still don't know anything about Gladiol

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<v Speaker 3>and her book is about how the Babian society in

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<v Speaker 3>the late eighteen hundreds talked about one world government, talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the Hegelian dialect, how creating the Hegelian and anti

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<v Speaker 3>Setton talks about this as well in a different book,

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<v Speaker 3>Creating the Hegelian left called communism and the Hegelian right

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<v Speaker 3>called Nazism allowed what I refer to as the international Syndicate,

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<v Speaker 3>this group of puppet masters that operate on an international scale,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're all criminals, which is why I call it

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<v Speaker 3>a syndicate. That they manipulate everything, they fund everything, they

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<v Speaker 3>manipulate everything, and their final goal is one world government,

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<v Speaker 3>and it will be a fascist government. It will be

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<v Speaker 3>a dictatorship of everyone, of the useless eaters, the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of us. And again, as you just articulated, being a

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<v Speaker 3>you are a target. You have given an oath of

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<v Speaker 3>so again you're sitting here going, wait a minute, wait

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<v Speaker 3>behind Units. Again, I have six different degrees. If I've

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<v Speaker 3>Like wait a minute, wait a minute. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>and I see Operation Gladio and I'm like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>So I bought Paul Williams book, who I've interviewed twice.

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<v Speaker 3>that's the name of his book, in twenty fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 3>the day the book was released, so he knew that

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<v Speaker 3>the history of Operation Gladio and where it started, and

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<v Speaker 3>that primarily all of the post World War two intelligence agencies,

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<v Speaker 2>Up so in such cases exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you and Masad, the I six, the only

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of people out there that you

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<v Speaker 3>hear every day. And as soon as I started posting

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<v Speaker 3>about this, everybody jumped on, Oh, it's all the Jews. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all the Jesuits. Oh, it's all the Catholics. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all of this. And I'm like, no, no, it's not. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not it's not all of anybody. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 3>well before the war, before we ever got involved in

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<v Speaker 3>missionaries and they conducted, at the beginning of our involvement

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<v Speaker 3>in Vietnam, a mass one million, large forced migration of

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<v Speaker 3>people that had spent the last, you know, generations, hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>who was a Catholic in the in the south, because

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<v Speaker 3>they were the CIA's guy on the ground, and they

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<v Speaker 3>did it by psychological operations. The actual Catholic Church itself

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<v Speaker 3>was involved in a psychological operation with the CIA to

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<v Speaker 3>force relocate people. And if you take that and you

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<v Speaker 3>fast forward to today, what's happening the force migration of

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<v Speaker 3>all of these people in countries we destabilized and so

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<v Speaker 3>you start seeing patterns. Patterns were everywhere. So getting back

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<v Speaker 3>to see behind units, I then had to go back

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<v Speaker 3>and rethink, because you know, your brain's wired that you

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<v Speaker 3>to basically kind of shake it all up and put

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<v Speaker 3>all of the pieces that I know in a different order.

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<v Speaker 3>And once I did that, the patterns were like glowing

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<v Speaker 3>like neon signs to me. Because you go back to

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<v Speaker 3>Vietnam War, to the Korean War, Well, guess what there

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<v Speaker 3>were stay behind units used there. We actually provoked the

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<v Speaker 3>Korean War. It was not the Soviet Union.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, many such cases.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And so in all of the election interference that

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<v Speaker 3>everybody struggling with right now, you're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>the CIA was involved in election interference in the United States. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>here's a newsflash for you. They killed RFK. That's election interference.

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<v Speaker 3>He had just secured the Democrat primary with the California win,

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<v Speaker 3>and that night they murdered him. But that wasn't where

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<v Speaker 3>they started. The CIA was created in nineteen forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>and the very first election they interfered with was in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty eight in Italy. So they have been interfering

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<v Speaker 3>in every significant election since nineteen forty eight everyone, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've conducted over ninety successful coups around the world overthrowing government.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very important for people to understand why they

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<v Speaker 3>do it, because you would think, oh, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a power thing, or it's just that, or

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<v Speaker 3>it's not. In every single case. The very first thing

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<v Speaker 3>I did was go to the CIA's website because they

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<v Speaker 3>list an entire array of resources that country has. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>why would they do that if they're just an intelligence

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<v Speaker 3>collection organization and with some intelligence they do some covert

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<v Speaker 3>operations based on intelligence, right, why would they keep a

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<v Speaker 3>list of all the resources. Well, they keep a list

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<v Speaker 3>of all the resources for the International Syndicate. Because what

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<v Speaker 3>they have done over this time is they hired geologists

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<v Speaker 3>under the guise of USAID or the Peace Corps or

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<v Speaker 3>send these geologists who are there to you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>help the poor people, and they're looking for gold, they're

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<v Speaker 3>looking for oil, they're looking for or they're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>every single rubber trees. We find good Rich and Goodyear

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<v Speaker 3>in Vietnam because they had massive amounts of rubber production.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm like, okay, So if it's all about

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<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden that country is labeled a

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<v Speaker 3>communist sympathizer and then they use these covert forces, Well

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<v Speaker 3>where are they getting all their money? Well, because none

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<v Speaker 3>of this is paid for out of the appropriated funds,

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<v Speaker 3>because all of their operations are covert, and they do

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<v Speaker 3>have a covert budget, but it would never cover the

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<v Speaker 3>massive amount of operations they've done. So then I went

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<v Speaker 3>back to the beginning with Paul Williams and I he

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<v Speaker 3>lays out the perfect description of how they do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They do it three ways, drug trafficking, human trafficking, and

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<v Speaker 3>weapons trafficking. It's like this little wheel that has three spokes,

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<v Speaker 3>and in order to keep the wheel of Operation Gladiol

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<v Speaker 3>that the wheel has to have grease. Well, that's where

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<v Speaker 3>blackmail comes in. The way you keep this rolling down

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<v Speaker 3>the road where nobody finds out that it even exists

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<v Speaker 3>is by controlling the people involved in the production of

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<v Speaker 3>this wheel. And they blackmail people into silence. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they can't blackmail you into silence, they will kill you.

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<v Speaker 3>So that took me back to just after Well, it

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<v Speaker 3>was actually during the war, and two fundamental events happened,

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<v Speaker 3>one in Asia and one in Europe. The one in

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<v Speaker 3>Asia was orchestrated by Colonel Paul Helliwell. And Colonel Paul

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<v Speaker 3>Helliwell was a military attache and whether or not he

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<v Speaker 3>was actually in the military, he wore a military uniform

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<v Speaker 3>and he had a military rank, but that does not

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<v Speaker 3>always mean that he was actually military because he was

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<v Speaker 3>also CIA and they do pretend to be military officers.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Paul Helliwell was the military attache to Shane

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<v Speaker 3>Kai Shek, and Shang Kai Shek was not only fighting

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<v Speaker 3>the Japanese, but he was also fighting Mao or control

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<v Speaker 3>of China. And just so your audience knows, because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you've covered or not, China had bought

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<v Speaker 3>two wars, the Boxer Wars from the British using their

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<v Speaker 3>colony in India, importing opium into China because they were

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<v Speaker 3>exploiting China's resources as well, and they were doing it

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<v Speaker 3>by the influx of opium into China that had been

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<v Speaker 3>and he did not want any drugs in China at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So Shang Kai Shek paid for his warlord civil war

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<v Speaker 3>against Mao with the opium, so he becomes the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>opium dealer in all of China. Well, Paul Helliwell is

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<v Speaker 3>watching during World War two, Shang Kai Shek funding his

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<v Speaker 3>war effort, this covert war against Mao with opium. So

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<v Speaker 3>he picks up the phone to Alan Dallis and says, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that Gladio program that you're trying to set up.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a perfect way to fund it. And if

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<v Speaker 3>we traffic opium, we will have black market cash in

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<v Speaker 3>order to pay for all the weapons that we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to supply our Gladio operators with. And if we continue

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<v Speaker 3>this war effort with all these weapons being shipped in,

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<v Speaker 3>we can skim weapons off the top, not only for

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<v Speaker 3>our use, but to sell on the black market as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have this entire plan. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>every country you go in with this war, whether it

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<v Speaker 3>was Korea or Vietnam or Afghanistan, you displace people. Well

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<v Speaker 3>what can we do with the people, Well, we could

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<v Speaker 3>traffick the people modern day slavery. So this is like

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<v Speaker 3>the perfect bingo card for them. And so Mal eventually

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<v Speaker 3>kicks Shang Kaishek out of China and puts him in Burma.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a whole bunch of people involved in this

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<v Speaker 3>that people's names who they don't even know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know them. They're not in the history book.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the people that I stumbled across was named

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<v Speaker 3>William Polly. Have you ever heard of him? Can say

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<v Speaker 3>most people have never heard of him, But when you

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<v Speaker 3>look him up, oh my god, it'll make your head explode.

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<v Speaker 3>Polly Island in South Carolina is named after his family.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's a millionaire, but he's not a self made millionaire.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets given a lot of stuff like for Curtis

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<v Speaker 3>aircraft for fighters and all kinds of different sized aircraft

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<v Speaker 3>for Southeast Asia. So he sets up production over there,

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<v Speaker 3>and he gives shang Kayshek his own air force, and

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<v Speaker 3>we have sea supply. The Paul halliwell company that gives

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<v Speaker 3>him his own navy. So now we've got a way

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<v Speaker 3>to ship drugs all over the world. Weapons there, drugs back.

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<v Speaker 3>So Burma gets tired of because they moved him to Burma.

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<v Speaker 3>Shang Kaishak. The Burmese government gets tired of this bullshit

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, you're out of here. So the CIA

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<v Speaker 3>kind of scratches their head and they go, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 3>there's this little island over here called Formosa. Let's move

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<v Speaker 3>shang Kayshek over to Formosa. We can set them up

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<v Speaker 3>on this island. And it's actually an island chain of

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<v Speaker 3>about seven islands. Well that's that island called Formosa's now

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<v Speaker 3>called Taiwan. So most people do not realize, and I

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<v Speaker 3>I went over to that area. I went to Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia,

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<v Speaker 3>and Thailand during my Air War college. So again I

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<v Speaker 3>think I kind of know something. I didn't know a

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<v Speaker 3>damn thing. So for most it changes its name to Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 3>and shang Khaishek says that his KMT Army that was

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<v Speaker 3>democracy because that's a political party now. And he sets

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<v Speaker 3>up this thing called the Political Warfare Cadre Academy. That's

417
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<v Speaker 3>in a group of schools that trained terrorists around the world.

418
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<v Speaker 3>The one oh one terrorist training was School of America's

419
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<v Speaker 3>in Latin America. The graduate level is the Warfare Center

420
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 3>Political Warfare Center in Taiwan. And then the graduate the

421
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 3>PhD was a year long training program in Israel that

422
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of lords end up going to from Latin America.

423
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<v Speaker 3>So those are your three tiers of terrorist trains.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I can't help but laugh that the Granddaddy if

425
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<v Speaker 2>it's in Israel. I mean, obviously I know we met

426
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<v Speaker 2>you that. I'm not one who thinks it's all the Jews,

427
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 2>but let's be real. I mean, Israel is a component here.

428
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<v Speaker 3>But again, the irony in all of this that most

429
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<v Speaker 3>people miss is the I six being the granddaddy, and

430
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 3>who gave birth to Israel the Brits six.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Britz.

432
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 3>So again I find almost every one of these roads eventually.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Lead back to So sorry not to cut you off,

434
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<v Speaker 2>but you mentioned the CIA created nineteen forty seven Gladio

435
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty eight when was Israel founded.

436
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah again, and that's another interesting point. But so, just

437
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 3>to finish up the Shang Kai Shek, so he immediately

438
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 3>declares martial law. There are declassified State Apartment cables to Washington,

439
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 3>d C. From the ambassador in Taiwan saying that Shane

440
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Kai Shek is bayonetting for motions in the street right

441
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 3>in front of the embassy that come to the embassy

442
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>pleading for help to get Shang Kai Shek out of

443
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<v Speaker 3>their country, not knowing that we're the ones that put

444
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 3>him there, and so he declares martial law immediately. I

445
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 3>did not know that from the time they set up

446
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Shang Kai Shek in formosa until mainland China was recognized,

447
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 3>they lived under martial law. Shang Kai Shek was a

448
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 3>dictator in Taiwan for about forty years, and we were

449
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 3>told the entire time was a democracy. Even Gerald Macintosh

450
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 3>or MacArthur sorry, General MacArthur came back to the United

451
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<v Speaker 3>States and testified in front of Congress that he had

452
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 3>been there. It was a democracy. It was a success story.

453
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>This is like the best thing since life.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Three people at Taiwan.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, the same Taiwan that we're going to send

456
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>people to die for today. Okay, So the second important

457
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>thing about that time frame was a secret meeting during

458
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 3>the war in northern Italy. That meeting was between Alan

459
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Dulles and General Eisenhower's chief LOGISTICI Major General at the time,

460
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 3>Lyman Limitsker. Now, I know you played Northwood. You know

461
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 3>who he is. So you're going to understand with your

462
00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>military background the importance of what I'm about to say.

463
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 3>Lyman Limitsker the chief logistics officer for all of Italy

464
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<v Speaker 3>or for all of Europe for Eisenhower. Now you tell

465
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 3>me if you're going to set up a stay behind

466
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 3>unit concept throughout the entire area of Europe, and that

467
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 3>stay behind unit has pachets of weapons buried with guns, explosives,

468
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 3>com equipment, and money. Is that a logistics issue? You

469
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 3>have to arrange the transportation of all of those items

470
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<v Speaker 3>to all of these countries, You have to figure out

471
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 3>where you're going to stash them, and then you have

472
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<v Speaker 3>to keep track of where they're all at. That's a

473
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>logistic issue. So Alan Dulles and General Eisenhower, who becomes

474
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 3>President Eisenhower and conducts a bunch of coups use an

475
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Operation Gladio.

476
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Warn us about that military industrial complex. While he was.

477
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Telling you what he did, he wasn't warning. So he

478
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 3>sends Lyman Limitsker down to the secret meeting. Well, the

479
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 3>guy they met with was General Wolf. General Wolf was

480
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.440
<v Speaker 3>a Nazi. He was in charge of Operation Gladio. Do

481
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.440
<v Speaker 3>you know while he was in charge of Hitler Stay

482
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 3>behind unit because units they'll were Wolf units and it's

483
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 3>General Wolf.

484
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so.

485
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 3>General Wolfe's Eastern front guy was Reinhard Galen. Reinhard Galen

486
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 3>is an SS general. In his deputy for most of

487
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the training of the stay behind units was Auto Scorzenny Otto.

488
00:31:54.519 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Scorzenny is saved at Nuremberg and put in Paris where

489
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 3>they initially stood up NATO and then later moved. Once

490
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>he gets discovered because of his big scar, they find

491
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 3>out who he is and that he was a Nazi

492
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 3>and how the hell did you get through Nuremberg blah

493
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 3>blah blah, So they hide him in Spain. Well, no

494
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.440
<v Speaker 3>one went to Spain at the time because Franco who

495
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 3>was a dictator and they were very fascist at the time,

496
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 3>so he was safe there. They were hiding him in Spain.

497
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 3>So this meeting was General Wolfe negotiating who was going

498
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>to get ratlined out of Europe, what Nazis they were

499
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 3>going to say, and how they were going to do it,

500
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 3>and exchange for doing that, they turned over the plans

501
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>for all of the stay behind units that were in

502
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>German occupied territories France, the Netherlands, Germany, Hungary, all of

503
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 3>those countries Italy. So now they've got the plans of

504
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 3>where all these are at. So Alan Dulles then arranges

505
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 3>that and they agree that Reinhardt Galen is going to

506
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 3>be kind of the transition guide. So Alan Dulls dresses

507
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>him up in a four star US Army uniform, flies

508
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 3>him into Washington, d C. They spend a couple of

509
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>weeks there debriefing, he goes back. He of course never

510
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>makes it to Nuremberg. He's quote unquote denoxified, and guess

511
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 3>where he ends up. He begins running the Galen organization,

512
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 3>which becomes Germans B and D, which is their CIA.

513
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 3>So now you have a Nazi in West Germany that

514
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 3>supposedly denotified, running their intelligence apparatus, and you have Alan

515
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Dulles who ends up as the CIA director running our

516
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Gladio program. And then you have all of these intelligence

517
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 3>functions post World War two with these new governments in

518
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 3>France and West Germany and Italy because now they're supposedly

519
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 3>all denazified, Greece, all of these countries, all of the Sweden, Norway, Finland.

520
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 3>William Colby, who goes on to be CIA director, set

521
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 3>up all the stay behind units in Sweden, Norway and Finland,

522
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 3>so you have this entire European stay behind network. This

523
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:26.039
<v Speaker 3>entire thing was set up and justified by these critters

524
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 3>as anti communist stay behind units. So if the as

525
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 3>soon as the Soviet Unions ran over the Folga Gap,

526
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 3>they were going to fall in behind them and you know,

527
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 3>fight well. The problem with that logic is post World

528
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 3>War two, depending on who you read, the Soviet Union

529
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 3>had lost twenty five to fifty million people as a

530
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>result of the war. Most of their war fighting capability

531
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 3>was gone. It had been bombed, it had been destroyed.

532
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>There was no Communist people coming over the Folga Gap

533
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 3>at all. None couldn't even happened if they wanted to.

534
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 3>So why did they set them up? Well, they set

535
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 3>them up for one reason and one reason only to

536
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 3>control their own people and to commit domestic terror events

537
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>to terrorize their own people. And why would they do that?

538
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Because chaos begets control. And so at this point, I'm

539
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 3>about a year into this research project and my poor

540
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 3>husband has to listen to me, and every time I

541
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 3>find another one of those oh my god moments, how stupid.

542
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what we have podcasts for.

543
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I hadn't even started doing podcasts at this point,

544
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 3>so my husband got the full betting of this.

545
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean my wife's the same way now,

546
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and now it's a you know, I used to talk

547
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to her a lot about this stuff, and now I

548
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>don't have to bother and we're better we're both better

549
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 2>off for it.

550
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, we talk about it all the time. My husband's

551
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.800
<v Speaker 3>like the best best support person that could I could

552
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 3>have ever found.

553
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, my wife, she just does not care about

554
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

555
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 3>One day and he's he's and you know, I'm busy

556
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 3>doing my research and stuff, and he's like, hey, do

557
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 3>you remember that comedy that we used to watch called

558
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Get Smart? And I'm looking at him, going, I'm kind

559
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 3>of busy. Yeah, I don remember it. I watched it

560
00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 3>all the time. And he goes, do you remember what

561
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the two organizations were called on that TV show? And

562
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm like no, he goes, Chaos and Control, and I'm like,

563
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.320
<v Speaker 3>son of a bitch, are you kidding me? And he goes,

564
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you're right. Chaos was the bad guys, in

565
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Control was the good guys. It's all a psychological operation.

566
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 3>Every bit of this is a psychological operation against the government,

567
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 3>against us, and so and I said, and so the

568
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 3>moral of the story is the name of the show,

569
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 3>get Smart. They're telling us to get smart, to figure

570
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 3>out what the hell is going on and not allow

571
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 3>ourselves to be controlled by their chaos. And that, to

572
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 3>me was like one of the biggest light bulb moments

573
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 3>for me of how long this psychological operation had been

574
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 3>going on, which then, of course we have to fast

575
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 3>forward to Operation Northwood since we already missed it. And

576
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure your audience probably all knows that there's a

577
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 3>laundry list of chaos options on their light flying drone

578
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 3>aircraft into buildings, bombing buildings, and blaming it on the

579
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Cubans and so they that is a document that should

580
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 3>be framed on everyone's wall, that this is your government

581
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 3>So the guy that's set up Operation Gladio logistically throughout

582
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 3>all of Europe, and I'll make the argument that we

583
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 3>have them here that set that entire program up gets

584
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 3>to be Eisenhower's chief of Staff or uh yeah, Joint

585
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>chiefs of Staff joy So Kennedy when he's presented this

586
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 3>basically fires Lyman Limitsker by not giving him his second tour.

587
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>But do you know where Lyman Limitsker got assigned after

588
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 3>the Joint chiefs of Staff the old NATO, and where

589
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 3>is Operation Gladio controlled from NATATO? So a year later,

590
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 3>JFK is dead, and I would argue that JFK's assassination

591
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>is an Operation Gladio. And the reason why I argue

592
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 3>that is because Auto score Zenny, autosco Zenny was the

593
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 3>pivotal point in all of this. It was a logistical

594
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 3>A four contract out of the Air Force that paid

595
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 3>for building Spain's Air Force bases over there, and Autoscorzinny

596
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 3>opened a construction company with a partner and he got

597
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 3>every single one of those contracts. Those contracts were money

598
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 3>laundering to pay Autoscorzinny to train people, and he trained

599
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 3>them in assassinations, kidnapping, and torture, and he did it

600
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:35.519
<v Speaker 3>on the island of Sardinia in Italy, on the Canary Islands,

601
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.000
<v Speaker 3>and on the border of France in Spain.

602
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So I know this wasn't him, but I think the

603
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Cuban exiles, they were training in swamps in Florida, I believe,

604
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 2>is what the I mean. Just a separate thing.

605
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, well but it is the same thing, well separate.

606
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>But the same, but not not hymn specifically.

607
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to yeah, but he came in contact with them,

608
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 3>and I am also going to argue that the Cuban

609
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 3>exiles are our Gladio or at least because well, because

610
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>where do you find the Cuban exiles involved in JFK's assassination.

611
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 3>They were involved in the overthrow of Nixon. They were

612
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>involved in the bombing of Ambassador Latier, a car bomb

613
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 3>detonated in Washington, d c. That not only killed him,

614
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 3>he was the ambassador that got stranded here from Chile

615
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 3>when we overthrew their government. And an American that was

616
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 3>his aid was also killed in that car bomb. And

617
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 3>the Cuban ax siles, two of them went to prison

618
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>for that car bomb. They launched the downing of the

619
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Cuban aircraft that had taken off from Venezuela on the

620
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 3>way back to Cuba with the I think it was

621
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 3>an archery team. Those Cuban axiles took that plane down.

622
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 3>The Cuban axiles, they were in Angola, they were in Nicaragua,

623
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<v Speaker 3>they were in just about every coup. They went to Vietnam.

624
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<v Speaker 3>So I would are argue that there is more than

625
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 3>enough evidence to say that the Cuban exiles were our gladio.

626
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean they were. They were Watergate RFK JFK. I mean,

627
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I know there's some of them not thinking of they

628
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>totally were involved in, but yeah, they were like any

629
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 2>and basically any op during that period of time, you

630
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 2>could almost damn near guarantee there was a Cuban exiles

631
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 2>at least tangently connected.

632
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 3>And they were our gladio. And they were trained directly

633
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 3>by the CIA, just like every other gladio. The training

634
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.480
<v Speaker 3>of the Italian Gladio were done by the Italian government,

635
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 3>the training, but Otto Skorzeny was kind of the the

636
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 3>training advisor for everybody. So and you find Auto Scorzenny

637
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:54.480
<v Speaker 3>and the overthrow of the Congo. Patrice Lumamba, he was

638
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 3>the one that orchestrated the plan on how that was

639
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 3>going to go down. You find him, and he traveled

640
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>routinely to Latin America, where we have Operation Condor. An

641
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Operation Condor is the kissing cousin of Operation Gladio. Operation Gladio,

642
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 3>just for the people that knows, is a generic term

643
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 3>now for all of Europe, but it was specifically related

644
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 3>to Italy because Portugal's program was called a Genter Press.

645
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 3>The Turkey program was called the Gray Wolfs, so everybody

646
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.000
<v Speaker 3>had a particular pet name for theirs. But because Italy

647
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 3>is the only country that actually did an in depth

648
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 3>investigation into that program and revealed it for the first

649
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 3>time on August second, nineteen ninety And you're going to

650
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 3>understand when I say this next part. So here I

651
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 3>am reading Paul Williams's book, and he talks about Prime

652
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Minister Andreatti getting up in front of the Ayyaen Senate

653
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 3>and saying, yeah, there's a thing called Operation Gladio, and

654
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 3>yeah it was being ran by the government and yea,

655
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 3>we killed a bunch of people. He eventually goes to jail.

656
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 3>So he did that on the second of August, and

657
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 3>most people would not remember that date, just like in

658
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 3>generic breeding. Well, the reason why I remember that date

659
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 3>is because that's the day I flew in from JFK

660
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 3>Airport to the Rome Airport for a three year assignment

661
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 3>in Italy. I arrived there on the second of August.

662
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what else happened on the second of August?

663
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you.

664
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. So if you're Europe and you

665
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 3>know that everything that you've just spent the last I

666
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:54.039
<v Speaker 3>don't know what by that time forty years is going

667
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 3>to blow up in your face. What would you do

668
00:43:56.880 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 3>another false flag? So the week before April, Gillespie I

669
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 3>think was her name, the envoy to Iraq for the

670
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 3>US government. She gives Saddam Hussein the go ahead to

671
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 3>go ahead and invade Poait. And it just so happens

672
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 3>to be scheduled on the second of August, the same

673
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 3>day ANDREATI is going to get up in front of

674
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 3>the entire So everybody's eyes are glued on ANDREATI, right,

675
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 3>and NATO now uses the excuse of oh my god,

676
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.079
<v Speaker 3>we're going to war. We can't talk about Gladio. You know,

677
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 3>nobody can be made available in our PR departments because

678
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 3>they're planning a war. Well the PR Department doesn't talk

679
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 3>to you know, doesn't conduct the war, so why can't

680
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:43.079
<v Speaker 3>I talk to them? Well, no, we're busy. So it

681
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 3>was the perfect avenue to steal the news cycle. And

682
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 3>that's what this is all about. Anytime something happens in

683
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 3>government that is bad for the deep state, there's going

684
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 3>to be a false flack, there's going to be in

685
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 3>a a distraction that they orchestrate in order to control

686
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 3>the news cycle. And so I got off that airplane

687
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.000
<v Speaker 3>in the Rome airport and I had a choice of

688
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.000
<v Speaker 3>a couple of different places to go, but of course

689
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 3>who would not want to go to Italy? And I

690
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.480
<v Speaker 3>get off the airplane with my daughter and there's like,

691
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 3>for every person civilian in the airport, there's like five

692
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>guys with AK forty seven. And I'm like, what the

693
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.840
<v Speaker 3>hell is going on? What did I do? What's wrong

694
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 3>with you people? And I found out talking to the

695
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 3>customs person that they were on high alert because a

696
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 3>few years earlier the Rome Airport had been bombed, and

697
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, holy crap. And so, of course, you know,

698
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>the rest is history, but that date just kind of

699
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 3>stuck in my brain because it was such a devastating

700
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>day for me to land and find out that we're

701
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 3>basically going to warp any minute. So that's kind of

702
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of this whole research project for me. And

703
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.519
<v Speaker 3>after I kind of found out and had a good footing,

704
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I thought was the makeup of all of this. I

705
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 3>started going conflict by conflict, country by country I have

706
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Now I think I'm up to ninety one successful coups.

707
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I read in Peter Dell Scott's book and William Bloom

708
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 3>wrote a book called Killing Hope that there's been over

709
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 3>four hundred attempts at overthrowing governments, ninety of which ninety

710
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 3>one that I can attest to that were successful coups,

711
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 3>all conducted by these operatives. And so I started a

712
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 3>project and it's linked on my feed. I do spaces

713
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.679
<v Speaker 3>every day at four o'clock. I started off we do

714
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 3>books now because we're doing Columbia right now, but we

715
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 3>started off regional. So we looked at Operation Condor in

716
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Latin America. We went into the Caribbean, we looked at

717
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 3>all of those cups. Was there a CIA element of it? Yes,

718
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 3>in every single case. We went to h Central America.

719
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Then we went to South America, and then we went

720
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 3>to Europe. You know, they killed automorrow, they called they

721
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 3>killed a lock Palm. They tried to kill Charles de

722
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 3>gaul over twenty times. They shot up his car, They

723
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 3>tried to poison him because he was for peace in

724
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Algeria in the French uh deep state didn't want that

725
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:55.079
<v Speaker 3>not to be a slave colony. So he had to go.

726
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 3>And so we we looked at a bunch of different

727
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 3>regime changes operations that had went on in Europe, to

728
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 3>include Ukraine both in two thousand and four and twenty fourteen,

729
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 3>both CI eight setups. And then we went to Asia

730
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 3>and we looked at Malayo and the British overthrew them, Vietnam,

731
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Laos Cadi, all of those. How many attempts had we

732
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 3>tried to take out China? We found that in the Paull,

733
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 3>the whole Weiger situation, that entire thing is a lie.

734
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 3>We set up we set up terrasts training camps in Nepaul,

735
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 3>and we were training Wigers, Muslim Wigers to attack China

736
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 3>and from the inside. And I had never heard of this,

737
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 3>but in Tibet we flew a whole bunch of Tibetans

738
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 3>into Colorado to an abandoned World War two base in

739
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 3>the mountains. You look it up. We flew them in

740
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 3>there to the airport in Denver. We took blacked out

741
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 3>buses up to the top of the mountain in the

742
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 3>middle of the night. They were there for months learning

743
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 3>how to be terroraced by the CIA. We took them

744
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 3>back down to the buses, put them on an airplane

745
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 3>and flew them back to Tibet for them to create

746
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 3>their own stay behind network to attack China. So now

747
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:37.519
<v Speaker 3>we've got Taiwan over here launching attacks constantly into China

748
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 3>shang Kaishek, We've got the Tibetans inside of China doing it,

749
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 3>and we've got the Nepal terrorist training training the Vigers

750
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 3>to attack China. This is all CIA. So we've surrounded China,

751
00:49:53.960 --> 00:50:01.039
<v Speaker 3>just like we did with Russia, with Georgia, Ajabaijan, all

752
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 3>of them, every one of them in Ukraine. The New

753
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 3>York Times, to my amazement, like a year ago in February,

754
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 3>actually has a very long article saying that in the

755
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 3>immediate aftermath of twenty fourteen, the CIA went over there

756
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 3>with tons of people set up like twenty secret underground facilities,

757
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 3>and they said they did it to protect Ukraine against Russia.

758
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 3>But oddly enough, those underground facilities are not along the

759
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Russian border, which is where you would think they would

760
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 3>have them, right, No, they're along the don Bass region

761
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 3>that is now still technically inside of Ukraine. Well, why

762
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:46.960
<v Speaker 3>would they line those units, those in the CIA site

763
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 3>in the Donbass Rege on the outside of the Donbass

764
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 3>region in Ukraine Because they were going to use them

765
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.679
<v Speaker 3>as stay behind to attack the Donbass region to bate

766
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Russia into a war, which is exactly what happened.

767
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Hell, even I was just thinking about it as you

768
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.039
<v Speaker 2>were talking. Actually, I remember during the recent attack, the

769
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Twelve Day War stuff, there were reports of almost cases

770
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 2>and you could almost say stay behind type stuff from

771
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Israel in Iran. And now that I'm looking back, I'm

772
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>recalling Iran notably actually had a very good relationship with

773
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Germany during that period of time. So that might be

774
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of shot in the foot for them

775
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>if I'm thinking about that, because I wouldn't be surprised

776
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 2>if some of those logistic components that came into play

777
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 2>there have been maybe sitting in wait for damn near

778
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>that long because kind of I guess what we're driving.

779
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm driving out here a little bit is and you

780
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of did as well. I think the CIA very

781
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.239
<v Speaker 2>well may have been essentially created for Gladio essentially, or

782
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:49.559
<v Speaker 2>because it's like we look at this, I mean, we

783
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the war world units and how we

784
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 2>have all these Nazis operation paper clip like this is

785
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 2>all just one. Like this is where you hear people

786
00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 2>talking about, like the when they say the Nazis won,

787
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.840
<v Speaker 2>this is what they're talking about. They took the they

788
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.679
<v Speaker 2>essentially the reconstruction, the the reassessing, retaking things like you know,

789
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 2>the the after period, some people took that infrastructure of

790
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.440
<v Speaker 2>what they had and that was us. We took that

791
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 2>and said that's ours now. And I think along with

792
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that came, you know, some of the things like some

793
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 2>of the debauchery that tends to happen in war, a

794
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of the the whorehouses, and maybe some of the

795
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 2>other darker underbelly elements, and that kind of came into

796
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 2>the other child trafficking component. I think we probably took

797
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 2>over those same networks as well. In the aftermath of

798
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 2>World War two and that bleeds into what we see now,

799
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's why you do see when you

800
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 2>get into some of the really spooky territory, you do

801
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 2>really find it always seems to swirl around Nazi symbolism

802
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and such, and I think that's probably for a reason.

803
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.800
<v Speaker 3>So my take in all of this is the baby

804
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 3>in society in the late eighteen hundred said there's going

805
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.559
<v Speaker 3>to be three world wars, and to me, the third

806
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 3>war war arted in the immediate aftermath of World War Two,

807
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 3>and all we did was transfer an over war to

808
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 3>a covert war. So we took all of those Nazis

809
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 3>buried them throughout the world. There were Nazis in Japan,

810
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 3>there were Nazis in Egypt, there were Nazis in Latin America.

811
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 3>There were Nazis everywhere, and everybody focuses on paper clip.

812
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Paper Clip was such a small drop in the bucket.

813
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.760
<v Speaker 3>There were freaking Nazis everywhere. We ratlined them all over

814
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the world. They were in Africa, they were in like

815
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, South America, Central America, and they popped up

816
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 3>repeatedly over the years in these operations. You take in Chile,

817
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:53.119
<v Speaker 3>when we went in there in the well, we were

818
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 3>in there twice. We Salvador Linde scared the hell out

819
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.159
<v Speaker 3>of everybody because he was a nationalist, and so we

820
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 3>ran for president of Chile. The first time, the CIA

821
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.760
<v Speaker 3>went in there and made sure he didn't win. They

822
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 3>have like the what do you call that, where you

823
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 3>have the top two candidates, Like if you have three candidates,

824
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 3>like Alaska.

825
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Has preferred voting or whatever, it's like, yeah, preferred choice

826
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

827
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's kind of the way there's was.

828
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 3>So they made sure that he didn't get in the

829
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:34.679
<v Speaker 3>top three. So when the next time he ran, they

830
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 3>go back in there and they buy the newspaper, they

831
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 3>take over. And who was behind that, Well, at the

832
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>time a company called I T T International Telegram and

833
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Telephone company. PepsiCo had the exclusive rights for distribution there,

834
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and most people don't know PepsiCo had a navy bigger

835
00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:01.800
<v Speaker 3>than most countries. They like a whole bunch of the

836
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Soviet stuff, and so that you also had anaconda mining

837
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 3>because Chile was a copper mine bonanza. They were the

838
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 3>largest copper supplier in the seventies of the world, and

839
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.599
<v Speaker 3>so those companies knew that Salvadora Lende wanted to solve

840
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the labor issue because they were basically treating the Chileans

841
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:30.079
<v Speaker 3>like slaves and they were killing Chileans in the mines

842
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:31.880
<v Speaker 3>and blah blah blah, and they knew they were using

843
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 3>it t T to spy because they controlled the entire

844
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 3>nation's telephone operations. So he was going to private he

845
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.360
<v Speaker 3>was going to kick it T out and take over

846
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 3>their telephones. He was going to allow labor unions legitimate ones,

847
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 3>not to pretend ones that the CIA sets up for

848
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 3>these companies, and he was going to open competition to

849
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:59.559
<v Speaker 3>other companies beside PepsiCo, so that that's a no go

850
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 3>for these guys, the International Syndicate, So they pick up

851
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 3>the phone to the CIA and say get rid of him.

852
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 3>So they go in and they basically try to sabotage

853
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 3>the election. He gets in the top two, he eventually wins,

854
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.519
<v Speaker 3>and then they try to They spent like five million

855
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.920
<v Speaker 3>dollars trying to buy off senators because he has to

856
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 3>go for approval of the Senate because it's like a

857
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.880
<v Speaker 3>parliamentarian kind of system, and so they try to buy

858
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.320
<v Speaker 3>enough senators to not confirm him. Well, that doesn't work either,

859
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.400
<v Speaker 3>so he actually gets elected and he actually starts implementing

860
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 3>these changes and then they murdered him and Itt PepsiCo

861
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.920
<v Speaker 3>and and a con at the time had been talking

862
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.440
<v Speaker 3>with Nixon and said, you have to Itt offered to

863
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.039
<v Speaker 3>pay for the operation. And you find a lot of

864
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 3>these international corporations they don't even if they have a

865
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 3>headquarters in the United States, they don't work for us.

866
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.920
<v Speaker 2>They're not on I'm kind of a tech idiot. So

867
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 2>this ITT thing, I'm assuming it's probably something similar, kind

868
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>of akin to like the Promised Software scandal where Robert

869
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Maxwell was involved with, where there was some sort of

870
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.280
<v Speaker 2>backdoor to where they were able to, you know, essentially

871
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 2>see what was going on, some sort of spying apparatus.

872
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Itt shared all communications with the CIA. But there's even

873
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 3>a better one. Have you ever heard of crypto AG? No?

874
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Ok, I heard you on William's stuff. But that's the

875
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.000
<v Speaker 2>extent of what I've heard about it.

876
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 3>So, but some people have actually heard that just in

877
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 3>other research that they've done. CRYPTOAG is kind of the

878
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 3>lynchpin to this whole thing. CRYPTOAG was a encrypted communication

879
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 3>system that was like at the state department levels, so

880
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 3>a during World War Two, they used the guy that

881
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 3>created crypto ag the company his ability to hack into

882
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 3>encrypted stuff during World War Two. Okay, so he's like

883
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.800
<v Speaker 3>he's working with the NSA. He's a brainiact. So the

884
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 3>CIA gets the idea at the time, it was the OSS.

885
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 3>It's the idea, Hey, we're going to set you up

886
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:08.159
<v Speaker 3>a company in Switzerland, you know that place where everybody

887
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 3>thinks is neutral, and we want you to call your

888
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 3>company CRYPTOAG. So you go over there and we're basically

889
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 3>going to set you up in operations and we want

890
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 3>you to create a backdoor to all of your boxes

891
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.800
<v Speaker 3>that you're going to sell these these countries. So this

892
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 3>the countries over one hundred and twenty countries around the world,

893
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:36.760
<v Speaker 3>thinking it's coming from an independent company in Switzerland, buys

894
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>cryptoag devices, they put them in the executive branches of

895
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty countries, and they put a receiver

896
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:52.800
<v Speaker 3>communicator in every single embassy of that country. So this

897
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 3>shit is everywhere. The CIA is actually in business with

898
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the German b and d Reinhard Galen the Nazi, so

899
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Alan Dallas and Reinhard Galen basically co own and officially

900
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.880
<v Speaker 3>they will eventually co own it. So this guy that

901
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 3>created CRYPTOAG, he gets old he has a son. They

902
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:23.280
<v Speaker 3>don't trust his son. So Reinhard Galen and Alan Dallas says, Hey,

903
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:24.880
<v Speaker 3>here's what we're going to do. We're going to set

904
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:29.360
<v Speaker 3>up a fake company. We're going to sell CRYPTOAG to

905
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 3>this fake company, and we're going to split the profits.

906
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 3>So literally, the CIA now owns it and every single

907
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and I want you to think about that, Just let

908
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 3>that sink in for just a second. Every state department

909
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:50.840
<v Speaker 3>level cable communicated around the world for one hundred and

910
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 3>twenty countries. Well, let's go through some of those countries.

911
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 3>Every country in Latin America has it. So every time

912
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.440
<v Speaker 3>that the CIA said they think there's communists activists, and

913
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 3>you know Brazil when we overthrew it, Eruguay when we

914
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 3>overthrew it, Eruguay when we overthrew it, Chile when they

915
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 3>know they're not communists, they know everything they're saying.

916
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 2>They probably know Maduro very well may not be the

917
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 2>head of the cartel, day Soul or whatever the exactly.

918
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, probably was too smart to buy CRYPTOAG though, but

919
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 3>I ran bought it. So most of day, most of

920
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:31.559
<v Speaker 3>that when we overthrew him in nineteen fifty three. Crypto

921
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 3>AG Egypt when we were told that any minute they

922
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.280
<v Speaker 3>were going to attack Israel in nineteen sixty seven. So

923
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Israel had to do it first, old face lie. And

924
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:45.239
<v Speaker 3>they knew it because both Jordan and Egypt had CRYPTOAG.

925
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 3>They knew everything they said. They knew. For a fact,

926
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Egypt had deployed seventy five thousand troops down to Yemen

927
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.440
<v Speaker 3>because the British had created a skirmish down there to

928
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 3>make them do that, to get them out of town.

929
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 3>So Israel could attack Egypt because they hated and that

930
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.320
<v Speaker 3>was an attempted overthrow of Egypt. That's all that was.

931
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 3>And it was orchestrated. The entire thing, the bombing of

932
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.880
<v Speaker 3>the USS Liberty, every bit of it was orchestrated to

933
01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 3>bring the United States in to make sure that Nasser

934
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:18.280
<v Speaker 3>got assassinated, overthrown. However it was going to work out,

935
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:22.719
<v Speaker 3>but they wanted Nasser gone. So all of these countries

936
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.480
<v Speaker 3>around the world has this communication equipment and the CIA

937
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:31.199
<v Speaker 3>had hard fast intelligence on exactly everything that country was doing.

938
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, one questions as we're going through this is

939
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 2>one thing I was thinking about. We talked before this,

940
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a you know, Oklahoma City bombing is kind of

941
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 2>my main thing and then probably my side thing I've

942
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of been, you know, to have a big interest

943
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.119
<v Speaker 2>in is kind of like another underbelly of you know,

944
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 2>international child trafficking and and kind of what everything that

945
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of goes along with it, and that naturally both

946
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of ties into Gladio. Now I kind of want

947
01:01:57.639 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 2>to I know, you seem to focus a very much

948
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 2>on milk history and sources and stuff, and I generally

949
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>tried to do myself, but sometimes we find ourselves what

950
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I call peeking beyond the veil, wondering what the hell

951
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 2>is going on here? You're like, this is so dark

952
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and sinister, like what is going on? And I said, especially,

953
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I think this note of the child trafficking and such

954
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 2>really reveals itself there, and you really get into things

955
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:24.039
<v Speaker 2>like even purported stuff of like Satanic ritual abuse, even

956
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Satanism and stuff. Probably one of the best examples of

957
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:30.639
<v Speaker 2>this would probably be the Dutreux affair in Belgium. I

958
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 2>mean there were I mean, most notably people know that

959
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 2>as being like children being abducted and stuff, but also

960
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 2>right around that same time. There were also bodies being

961
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:42.320
<v Speaker 2>found all the time which were most likely probably were

962
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.519
<v Speaker 2>usually many of them identified, and let's be real, the

963
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:48.360
<v Speaker 2>archetype of what they were were probably mostly women of

964
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 2>the night. So point being is there was a whole

965
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff going on here. It wasn't specifically but

966
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 2>just pedophilia. It was this whole milieu going on in

967
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:01.840
<v Speaker 2>this realm, particularly in Belgium, also having the Brabant killings

968
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 2>going on. The the tie that binds here is a

969
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 2>gendar marie, you know, every one of them, you know,

970
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.440
<v Speaker 2>turning you know, turning blind eyes and such, and and

971
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.800
<v Speaker 2>there's crossover between the two events. Obviously, this gets into

972
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the very tippy top of the royals and stuff, and

973
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:18.599
<v Speaker 2>these the pink ballets and the Penon affair and all

974
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 2>these different blackmail things going across, and you know, you

975
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.559
<v Speaker 2>get into things like the X Dossier and it gets

976
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.599
<v Speaker 2>absolutely horrifying, like and so this is what I'm talking about.

977
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:29.679
<v Speaker 2>When you get to peaking beyond the veil, I'm kind

978
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:31.679
<v Speaker 2>of curious, just kind of I don't know just where

979
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:33.719
<v Speaker 2>you're at with that. I mean, obviously I don't I'm

980
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 2>not expecting you to have any pronouncements of assertions here.

981
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think you're probably the same place

982
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 2>as me of like, oh my god, what the hell

983
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 2>these people are evil? But I guess I'm just kind

984
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.400
<v Speaker 2>of curious where you're at with that. I mean, I

985
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:48.920
<v Speaker 2>just it's just any generally, any thoughts, because I know

986
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:50.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people seem to seem to scurry away

987
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 2>from that. But I think there's something to that, maybe

988
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:56.440
<v Speaker 2>a level of hiding absurdity. Maybe this also kind of

989
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.079
<v Speaker 2>gets to what we were talking about little bit, this idea.

990
01:03:58.079 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Everyone goes, oh, it's a Jews, it's this, it's that,

991
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:01.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's like it's something else.

992
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:08.480
<v Speaker 3>So obviously this level of evil is satanic. You can't

993
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:12.360
<v Speaker 3>get away from that fact. Every aspect of this is satanic,

994
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:18.119
<v Speaker 3>you know. And it goes back to obviously this whole

995
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Naziism tie. Although some people like to say, oh, but

996
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, Hitler didn't do anything in the Catholic Church. Well,

997
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 3>the Catholic Church was part of this entire operation. They

998
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 3>were the chief money launder for Shang Kai Chek's operation

999
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:38.639
<v Speaker 3>in Operation Gladio. But eventually it got so big because

1000
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:41.559
<v Speaker 3>it's hundreds of billions of dollars a year in illicit

1001
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:45.119
<v Speaker 3>drugs and weapons and humans that they had to create

1002
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:48.920
<v Speaker 3>the BCCI bank Nugent Handbank down in Australia. They have

1003
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.400
<v Speaker 3>this entire banking infrastructure to handle all of these transactions.

1004
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.760
<v Speaker 3>They were running women and children out of the BCCI bank.

1005
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 3>So it's literally all tied together. I did an entire

1006
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.760
<v Speaker 3>show on the Dutrow. What you find out is another pattern.

1007
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 3>So in Chile there was colony of dignity and if

1008
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.320
<v Speaker 3>you researched that that very much looks like the Deatro

1009
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 3>thing as well. And what you find is any place

1010
01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 3>that there is a large gathering of like in Belgium, there.

1011
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Was a ratline community right there too, wasn't it you?

1012
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so when you when you when you look at

1013
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:37.559
<v Speaker 3>the move from NATO's headquarters being in Paris, when so

1014
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 3>after they tried to.

1015
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Kill Sorry real quick for the audience. I don't think

1016
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 2>we ever describe rat lines. What that is is a

1017
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:48.119
<v Speaker 2>colloquialism of essentially the Nazis essentially escaping from one area

1018
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:50.039
<v Speaker 2>to another, and you know they're in all that.

1019
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.800
<v Speaker 3>S fuddling them out in pre scrobes from the Catholic Church. Literally, yes,

1020
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 3>so when they when they tried to kill Charles Degal,

1021
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 3>like the twenty seventh time, Lyman Limitsker is the NATO

1022
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:08.440
<v Speaker 3>commander in Paris, Charles de gaul calls him in his

1023
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:10.519
<v Speaker 3>office and says, get the hell out of my country.

1024
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.239
<v Speaker 3>He actually removed and most people don't know this either.

1025
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:16.360
<v Speaker 3>He actually removed the French military from NATO and they

1026
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 3>did not rejoin until like two thousand and nine, so

1027
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:24.119
<v Speaker 3>the French military was not even in NATO. But when

1028
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:27.159
<v Speaker 3>they kicked NATO out of Paris because they tried to

1029
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:31.000
<v Speaker 3>kill him, they moved it to Belgium. And it's not

1030
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:35.320
<v Speaker 3>a coincidence that Dutroux was in Belgium because what you

1031
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:39.360
<v Speaker 3>find is anytime there is a large concentration of men,

1032
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.920
<v Speaker 3>primarily military in this case, but a lot of civilians

1033
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 3>are involved in NATO as well, they're going to put

1034
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 3>child trafficking operations as well as women of the night

1035
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 3>operations for blackmail, because you get single men who get

1036
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Some are absolutely deviant, but others are per are completely

1037
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:06.639
<v Speaker 3>They drug them at a dinner party and then they

1038
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 3>stage pictures with them and they will use that as

1039
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 3>blackmail for the rest of their life. So you have

1040
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:18.840
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of and you find these large operations primarily

1041
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 3>around those types of activities. So if you look at

1042
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the similarities between Colony of Dignity, it not only functioned

1043
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 3>as a pedophilia ring, but it also functioned as a

1044
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.960
<v Speaker 3>terrorist training camp. They had padded torture cells in the

1045
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.039
<v Speaker 3>basement of that facility where they were running with the DINA,

1046
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:44.920
<v Speaker 3>which was the Pinochet gets installed as the military dictator

1047
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 3>in Chile after they murdered a Linde and the DINA

1048
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:53.960
<v Speaker 3>operation of kidnapping people and torturing them. They use the

1049
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Colony of Dignity as a torture facility if they recall correctly.

1050
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there a maybe this is beyond what you you

1051
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe is your your area of research, But I feel

1052
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 2>like there's I want to say, like the Hand of

1053
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Death cult had some sort of connections to Colonia Dignidad

1054
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:10.679
<v Speaker 2>or something, but that might be beyond you. But I kind

1055
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.440
<v Speaker 2>of I was kind of, you know, put poking out

1056
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:14.239
<v Speaker 2>a little bit the idea of how some of this

1057
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:17.520
<v Speaker 2>seems to leak into even in the cult areas. Uh.

1058
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:19.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hell, you can get into really deep into

1059
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the weeds with the you know, the Church of Satanism,

1060
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the Temple of set other stuff like that where you go, oh,

1061
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:27.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's something else going on here too, So.

1062
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 3>There's connections to all of those things. So the Datrou

1063
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:37.439
<v Speaker 3>affair had a lot of similarities to but the Deatrou

1064
01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:41.079
<v Speaker 3>affair was the worst one that I've come across. They

1065
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 3>literally staged hunting in the woods of children hunted. So

1066
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.039
<v Speaker 3>it was the single worst one that I've come across.

1067
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 3>And of course, as you articulated, they had they found

1068
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.640
<v Speaker 3>dead bodies in his basement when that children had been

1069
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:02.399
<v Speaker 3>put in the walls of the basement down there, and

1070
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:05.680
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, that was one of the most horrific ones

1071
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 3>that I've researched. But I wanted to hit on and

1072
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:16.079
<v Speaker 3>I did watch your show with the Lawyer about what

1073
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:23.079
<v Speaker 3>I want to kind of probably again. And you guys

1074
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:27.279
<v Speaker 3>can think I'm slow, but I'm like at year two

1075
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 3>of this research and I'm concentrating on all of these

1076
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.960
<v Speaker 3>other areas and doing the research. You know, I found

1077
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:38.479
<v Speaker 3>stay behind units in Iran before nineteen fifty three, So

1078
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.880
<v Speaker 3>your point about Iran is dead on. They had basically

1079
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.039
<v Speaker 3>all of the southern tribes in Iran they had trained

1080
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.600
<v Speaker 3>to be terrorists inside of Iran, which is how they

1081
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:55.359
<v Speaker 3>basically overthrew Mosadk. But there's a big model to be

1082
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 3>talked about in Iran because as soon as we overthrew

1083
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Mosadek and reinstall the show aw Major General Norman Swartzkoff Senior,

1084
01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Norman Storman, Norman's dad was called in he's a retired

1085
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.680
<v Speaker 3>major general and said, hey, we got a job for

1086
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 3>you over here in Iran. He's the guy that went

1087
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:20.520
<v Speaker 3>over and created the Savakh. The Savakh was the intelligence

1088
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 3>terrorist organization inside of Iran. And all those nice pictures

1089
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:27.399
<v Speaker 3>they posed of the nineteen seventies and how life was,

1090
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.199
<v Speaker 3>and that was not life in Iran. That was life

1091
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.920
<v Speaker 3>in Iran, in Tehran around the Shaw, that's not what

1092
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:38.079
<v Speaker 3>life was. Everywhere else. They had prisons all over the place,

1093
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.560
<v Speaker 3>they had torture terror centers all over the place. And

1094
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Norman Schwartzkoff Senior set it all up. He set it

1095
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.520
<v Speaker 3>all up under the USAID program called Office of Public Safety.

1096
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:53.640
<v Speaker 3>And if you just research Office of Public Safety, you're

1097
01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:59.600
<v Speaker 3>going to find that they were in over fifty three countries. Basically,

1098
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:04.560
<v Speaker 3>what they did was created a terrorist FBI National Police

1099
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Force and an intelligence operation that worked hand in hand

1100
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:13.600
<v Speaker 3>to terrorize every one of the citizens that said a

1101
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 3>single word against the military dictator or show figure that

1102
01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.239
<v Speaker 3>had been installed by the CIA and was controlled by

1103
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 3>the CIA. So this was done in Chile with a dina,

1104
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:28.079
<v Speaker 3>it was done in Eruguay, and in Eruguay we find

1105
01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Dan Meetroone who was a retired police chief out of

1106
01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Indiana and Richmond, Indiana be specific, and he had went

1107
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 3>to an FBI training and learned all of this shit.

1108
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.439
<v Speaker 3>And the Indiana University was in bed with Michigan State

1109
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.880
<v Speaker 3>University who created the Phoenix program under the tutelage of

1110
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 3>the CIA and deployed it to Vietnam. But you find

1111
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:55.880
<v Speaker 3>that same kind of Phoenix program ish kind of stuff

1112
01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:00.399
<v Speaker 3>in every office of public safety. So Dan Meatroone is

1113
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:07.520
<v Speaker 3>involved in training the Iguayan National Police Force under the

1114
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 3>Office of Public Safety, embedded with CIA, and he ends

1115
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.880
<v Speaker 3>up getting kidnapped himself and they kill him.

1116
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep. This is I don't know, maybe you said it,

1117
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but he was. His specific thing was torture, trading torture,

1118
01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:23.319
<v Speaker 2>and then he gets abducted and tortured. I mean, sometimes

1119
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.680
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you go maybe there's a god.

1120
01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Him though, no, they questioned him. I actually just finished

1121
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.159
<v Speaker 3>a book recently. They didn't torture him. They killed him,

1122
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 3>they didn't torture him. Yeah. And so anyway, again we

1123
01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 3>were told that two Tomorrows were communists. They weren't. They

1124
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.640
<v Speaker 3>were legitimate patriots that did not want a dictator in

1125
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 3>their country and the CIA controlled, and they wanted him

1126
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.079
<v Speaker 3>out of there. And that is what you find in

1127
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 3>most of these countries is the patriots rise up against

1128
01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:07.319
<v Speaker 3>the oppression of the newly installed CIA dictator that's giving

1129
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:09.840
<v Speaker 3>all of their resources away. And that's the point I

1130
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:13.560
<v Speaker 3>want to hammer home. Every single one of these things

1131
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 3>was to monopolize a resource in a country. We monopolized

1132
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.359
<v Speaker 3>the oil in Iran when we overthrew most of DECK.

1133
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:22.920
<v Speaker 3>And let me tell you specifically because I like name

1134
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:29.920
<v Speaker 3>and names. Prior to our involvement in Iran, what eventually

1135
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:36.199
<v Speaker 3>becomes BP, the Anglo American or Anglo Oil Company whatever

1136
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 3>it was called before that had a monopoly on the

1137
01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:43.920
<v Speaker 3>oil revenues from Iran. They were getting eighty six cent

1138
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:48.239
<v Speaker 3>on every dollar profit and Iran was getting fourteen cent.

1139
01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:51.800
<v Speaker 3>All most of DECK wanted was a fifty to fifty split,

1140
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:55.760
<v Speaker 3>which the US. Standard Oil had just arranged with Saudi Arabia.

1141
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:59.720
<v Speaker 3>That's all they wanted, fifty to fifty. The British would

1142
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:03.479
<v Speaker 3>not give him that, and he ends up being under

1143
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.479
<v Speaker 3>house arrest for the rest of his life when he

1144
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:09.439
<v Speaker 3>was overthrown. And do you know what BP ended up

1145
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:12.439
<v Speaker 3>with fifty percent because do you know who got the

1146
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 3>rest of that money? Standard Oil? Because Standard Oil. Kermit Roosevelt,

1147
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:20.960
<v Speaker 3>the grandson of Teddy Roosevelt, was the CIA guy that

1148
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:25.199
<v Speaker 3>went in and overthrew Mozedeic for Frank Wisner and Alan Dulles.

1149
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:29.520
<v Speaker 3>And they did that so Standard Oil would get the

1150
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:34.520
<v Speaker 3>difference every single one of these things. The CIA has

1151
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:37.159
<v Speaker 3>never worked for the United States. They've never worked for

1152
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:41.399
<v Speaker 3>the United States president. They work for an international syndicate

1153
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:45.119
<v Speaker 3>to go in and overthrow the government so they can

1154
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.479
<v Speaker 3>exploit the resources in that company. When we went and

1155
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.199
<v Speaker 3>overthrown Sukarno in Indonesia, there was a study that geologists

1156
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 3>discovered a mountain of gold and the purest oil ever

1157
01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.560
<v Speaker 3>found on God's Green Earth in Indonesia. They found it

1158
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:04.600
<v Speaker 3>in the nineteen thirties, but the Dutch did not have

1159
01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:09.359
<v Speaker 3>the ability to it was a Dutch colony. They didn't

1160
01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:14.079
<v Speaker 3>have the technology and the capability to take it over.

1161
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.600
<v Speaker 3>And then when they finally when Sukarno got his freedom

1162
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:22.680
<v Speaker 3>after World War Two for the Indonesian people, he was

1163
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:25.439
<v Speaker 3>not on board with them exploiting him, so he had

1164
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 3>to go. They tried to overthrow him once the CIA

1165
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:32.199
<v Speaker 3>got caught, and then they come back and they try

1166
01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:38.239
<v Speaker 3>to overthrow him and do and install Suharto. So immediately

1167
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 3>after the installation of Suharto in Indonesia, the standard oil

1168
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.199
<v Speaker 3>Dutch and there was one other country it may have

1169
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:50.960
<v Speaker 3>been the UK go in and start pumping the oil. Well.

1170
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:56.439
<v Speaker 3>Basically they get some kind of slanted deal again where

1171
01:15:56.439 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 3>they're getting the majority of the profits, so they send

1172
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 3>in the anytime they want the resources in the country.

1173
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.560
<v Speaker 3>They did it throughout all of Africa, Congo. We talked

1174
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 3>about with Patrice Lumumba that he had uranium. They wanted

1175
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:13.880
<v Speaker 3>all of the uranium, and Patrice Lumumba come to the

1176
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.199
<v Speaker 3>United States and said, I'll give you all the uranium.

1177
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm just not giving any money to Belgium because he

1178
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.960
<v Speaker 3>was they were a former Belgium colony, and they said,

1179
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:23.439
<v Speaker 3>we just want to cut them out we're not a

1180
01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 3>colony anymore. We want our we want to build some

1181
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:27.920
<v Speaker 3>schools and hospitals. We can't do it if we cut

1182
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.800
<v Speaker 3>them in, So I will deal directly with you. Eisenhower

1183
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:36.119
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't meet with him. President Vice President Nixon wouldn't meet

1184
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.760
<v Speaker 3>with him, and so they send them over to the

1185
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 3>State Department. He meets with the Secretary of the State

1186
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 3>and the Secretary of State is told him to pound sand.

1187
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 3>You're not cutting Belgium out. They're our partner. And so

1188
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Patrice Lumamba said, fuck you, I don't care. I'm not

1189
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.720
<v Speaker 3>going to I'm not going to do this, and so

1190
01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:55.640
<v Speaker 3>he goes home and he tells all the Belgium military

1191
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.600
<v Speaker 3>to leave. The Belgium comes back and says, well, you

1192
01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 3>can have enlisted people, but I'm keeping all of our

1193
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:04.399
<v Speaker 3>officers there. They're gonna have to work for me. And

1194
01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Patrice Lamamba goes, I'm in charge here, not you get

1195
01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:13.159
<v Speaker 3>them out, and immediately Auto Scorziny deploys down to the

1196
01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:17.439
<v Speaker 3>resource area called Katanga and they start a civil war.

1197
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:24.439
<v Speaker 3>They start attacking Patrice Lumumba's forces and immediately NATO recognizes

1198
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:30.319
<v Speaker 3>the Katanga as a separate country. What I thought. We

1199
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:35.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't change countryes. Yeah, overnight, it becomes a separate country

1200
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.960
<v Speaker 3>until they can kill Patrice Lumamba and then Katanga becomes

1201
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:42.760
<v Speaker 3>part of the Congo again. And that's the part part

1202
01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:45.399
<v Speaker 3>I want to hit home. Every single time, the CIA

1203
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.319
<v Speaker 3>is not out there willy nilly killing people and willy

1204
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 3>nilly doing covert operations. They are an arm of the

1205
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:55.840
<v Speaker 3>International Syndicate. They are the military arm of the International,

1206
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 3>the paramilitary arm of the and the IMF and the

1207
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:03.520
<v Speaker 3>World Bank. They're the economic muscle. This is an all

1208
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:07.680
<v Speaker 3>out war against all of the world's countries for them

1209
01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:11.399
<v Speaker 3>to own everything and for us to own nothing. That's

1210
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the point I want to hit home. But I want

1211
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:17.079
<v Speaker 3>to go back and talk about.

1212
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh Kirk Kirk lines the lawyer head on. Yeah, Oklahoma.

1213
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I figured maybe you might have some I'm glad you

1214
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:24.399
<v Speaker 2>actually watched that because I wasn't going to bring it

1215
01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:25.960
<v Speaker 2>up because I was like, I figured this would interest

1216
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:28.600
<v Speaker 2>you because this is a it was a very unique interview.

1217
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much you know about the lie.

1218
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I know you know some. I know you know something

1219
01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:33.319
<v Speaker 2>about Strasmeyer. I don't know you how much you know

1220
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the law of Kirk and stuff, so it was a

1221
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:36.640
<v Speaker 2>unique interview.

1222
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Again for a second, do you know that his granddaddy

1223
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 3>was a Nazi?

1224
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Who's that Kirk or Strasmeyer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, his

1225
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.560
<v Speaker 2>grand daddy's a Nazi. The lore is what that he's

1226
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:51.359
<v Speaker 2>supposedly was in believe double digits Nazi party. I believe member,

1227
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't even the triple digits, I think if

1228
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I recall correctly.

1229
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:58.319
<v Speaker 3>So do you also know that he went back when

1230
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.439
<v Speaker 3>he left here and worked for the German B and D.

1231
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:03.359
<v Speaker 2>So he went back and worked for the B and

1232
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:06.000
<v Speaker 2>D after Yes, I did not know that if that

1233
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:08.520
<v Speaker 2>was the case, that he resumed operations with the B

1234
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and D upon returning to Germany after the Oklahoma City

1235
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:13.359
<v Speaker 2>bought me. And if you ever seats for that, I

1236
01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:15.800
<v Speaker 2>would appreciate because I haven't heard that. So I did

1237
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:17.600
<v Speaker 2>not know that one.

1238
01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:21.760
<v Speaker 3>And also I'm trying to look it up real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>His dad was a very interesting guy too, very much

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<v Speaker 3>involved in Gladio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dad was a what did he work for the cut?

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<v Speaker 2>Who he worked for? Some big wig? I just can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember his name right now.

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01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he worked for the government too.

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01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, you know, he was like a

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01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.720
<v Speaker 2>cabinet member or something like a very high up He

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<v Speaker 2>was like the right hand man of I forget specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he would be in the perfect position to know

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01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:48.840
<v Speaker 3>everything about Gladio in Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>MM. So what do you think of Kirk's story.

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<v Speaker 3>He comes from a Gladio family, Yeah, right, and he

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01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.920
<v Speaker 3>just so happens to be involved in a domestic terror

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01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:04.279
<v Speaker 3>event in the United States after I just explained that

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01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:08.159
<v Speaker 3>we have Gladigo too. Now here's what's important to me

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01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:13.920
<v Speaker 3>in the context of my research. So in America, it

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01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:20.840
<v Speaker 3>was very important to create a narrative, and the narrative

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01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:24.439
<v Speaker 3>for terrorism in the United States was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>white nationalist, Christian terrorist. So when you combined what your

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<v Speaker 3>guests did between Ruby Ridge, right, the gun fanatic, white

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01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:51.880
<v Speaker 3>nationalist and Waco, the religious fanatic Christian cult SEC and

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01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:59.960
<v Speaker 3>the military Timothy McVeigh domestic terror bombing. When you come

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01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:06.119
<v Speaker 3>those three things, what do you get the white nationalist,

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01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:08.399
<v Speaker 3>Christian terrorist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, which, frankly, I feel like we're still feeling that

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01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:13.479
<v Speaker 2>till today. I mean, I can feel the culture of

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01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 2>shifting now, but we still we mean, it's just now shifting.

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<v Speaker 2>So personally, it's but I mean, it's just now to

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<v Speaker 2>where white people are, like, not that I'm a particularly

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01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:25.319
<v Speaker 2>a racialist one way or the other, but it's admittedly

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01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:27.199
<v Speaker 2>white guilt and all these other things that have been

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<v Speaker 2>a thing for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was and it started with that narrative. And

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01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:38.119
<v Speaker 3>if you didn't have every single one of those pieces together,

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01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:44.800
<v Speaker 3>you could not have done the entire white nationalist, Christian terrorist.

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01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.880
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we saw play out during the Biden administration.

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01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's just round them all up. When I got off

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01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.960
<v Speaker 3>active duty in two thousand and eight, I was like

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01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 3>that one FBI list that came out that said here's

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01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:02.199
<v Speaker 3>all the potential domestic terrorists. I fit like seven of

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<v Speaker 3>the ten categories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most military members did. It was still stuff like

1282
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>insignias of like don't tread on me and stuff like that,

1283
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:11.760
<v Speaker 2>where it's just like every other military member probably has

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01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:13.039
<v Speaker 2>that stupid bumper sticker.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I'm going to set up a narrative to

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01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:21.560
<v Speaker 3>classify all of the people that would rise up against

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01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:27.199
<v Speaker 3>a dictatorship in the United States in opposition to one

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01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:32.039
<v Speaker 3>world government, they set the narrative with those three events.

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<v Speaker 3>So no one will ever convince me and let me

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01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:39.520
<v Speaker 3>give you another kind of weird tidbit. Do you know

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01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:45.680
<v Speaker 3>it's been confirmed. I mean it's in the congressional testimony

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01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 3>and everything else that military equipment was used at Waco?

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01:22:50.279 --> 01:22:50.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Right. Do you know where it came from specifically?

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01:22:56.720 --> 01:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Huh Ford Hood for Hood, Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know who was the commander of Forurhood at

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01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:05.000
<v Speaker 3>the time. No, Wesley Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know who was the NATO commander during Bosnia?

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01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Wesley Clark?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh man, they really do they And he's the guy

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01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:21.520
<v Speaker 2>who is that famous seven countries in seven years or whatever.

1303
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:24.680
<v Speaker 2>So once again, we talked to Eisenhower earlier. But it's like,

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01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, every single time, it's always the one they

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01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:29.479
<v Speaker 2>choose to tell you that. Well, that's what that is

1306
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:32.640
<v Speaker 2>is that's their relief valve, that's their relief flve.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm telling you. In every one of

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01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:42.000
<v Speaker 3>these research projects, I I have to just get up

1309
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:46.399
<v Speaker 3>and walk away. I will. I will read this. And

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01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:48.319
<v Speaker 3>now because I know all of the names, I have

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01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.199
<v Speaker 3>them all in my notes, all I have to do

1312
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:53.840
<v Speaker 3>is do a search and I'm like, hit hit, hit hit.

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01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Every single time a new name will come up, or

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01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:02.199
<v Speaker 3>an old name that I ran across like four times.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything that we're referencing this Cirk interview I did, okay.

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01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if you watched the whole thing,

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01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:10.920
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like anyway, especially if you know the

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01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City bombing, the way I did that interview, I

1319
01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>felt like I just asked him the obvious questions and

1320
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't try to do any sort of gotcha anything,

1321
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>didn't try to, but it was just like I knew

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01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:26.279
<v Speaker 2>his very Yeah, I know his story. I don't need to.

1323
01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I can just be like, tell me your story and

1324
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:30.359
<v Speaker 2>tell me all these people you know, and it's just

1325
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>anyone with a brain can kind of go, something's weird here,

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01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and I don't really need to press it. Just the

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01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:39.720
<v Speaker 2>imagine just literally, like you know, just looking from what Strasmeyer,

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01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>what he licked up with Petruski, who supposedly was CIA.

1329
01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Even in that interview, he was like, well, I don't

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01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:47.920
<v Speaker 2>think you CIA, but he does have the story about

1331
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>he stringed up a fella in a post World War

1332
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:53.760
<v Speaker 2>two or really that is counterintel operations, that's what you

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01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>were describing, Like maybe it's not CIA, maybe it's military intel,

1334
01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>but Tomato Tomato, and then like I mean, just going on.

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01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Then you have Roger Moore, who I mean, he didn't

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01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>know anything about him. But that's another character in the

1337
01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City bombing who worked for Civilian material Assistance. He

1338
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>was in league with a Cuban exiles. He's an FBI informant,

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01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a CIA informant. I mean you go through just I

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01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>mean you go Halloway, which we referenced in that who

1341
01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>was working with Lions admittedly as his right hand man,

1342
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and he claims to have worked for what was it

1343
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Air America I believe. So it's like he which is

1344
01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a CIA front. It just goes on and on and on.

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01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>You just you lose your mind.

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01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Right, That's one of those things where you go, Okay,

1347
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:41.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put this down and go garden for an

1348
01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:43.920
<v Speaker 3>hour because I just like my whole brain just up.

1349
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:49.279
<v Speaker 3>You cannot look into Oklahoma bombing seriously and not see

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01:25:49.319 --> 01:25:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Gladio written all over it. You just can't. Every aspect

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01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:57.960
<v Speaker 3>of that was the weapon cachets they just so they

1352
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:02.319
<v Speaker 3>ends up at the hangar where the nine to eleven

1353
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:06.720
<v Speaker 3>hijackers were training out of I mean literally everything about it.

1354
01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:12.239
<v Speaker 3>They overlap, the logistical support everything I was trying to

1355
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:17.239
<v Speaker 3>find where I actually uh talked about his dad. But

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01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:22.159
<v Speaker 3>I'll send you the ex post because all of that

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01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:23.760
<v Speaker 3>is connected pack con.

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<v Speaker 2>YEP, which which my theory and not even my theory.

1359
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't own it. But the idea is that essentially

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01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the way that I guess you could say it's you're

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01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:33.680
<v Speaker 2>glad you kind of evolves over time, but at least

1362
01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>with the Oklahoma City bombing, and I think probably in

1363
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>other ops, I see a similar type strategy. I think

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01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>pat Con was likely to some extent, probably in a

1365
01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>genuine intel gathering operation. I mean, I don't agree with

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01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>what the way it went about things, but I don't

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01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>think it was trying to perpetrate false flag attacks. But

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01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:54.399
<v Speaker 2>now I mentioned a few people who are CIA and now,

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01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:56.199
<v Speaker 2>so I think what we're looking at as you see

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<v Speaker 2>one OP that might get infected by another. In this way,

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01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>you get plausible deniability as you exit the op. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my personal opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the entire thing, just like GLADIO, was made

1374
01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 3>to look legitimate, and the entire thing was Gladio. They

1375
01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.640
<v Speaker 3>were stashing weapons at guard armories.

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01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. Operation Punch out and all that.

1377
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:23.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how is that not Gladio. The entire concept of

1378
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Gladio is having weapon cachets around the country that you

1379
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:30.399
<v Speaker 3>can fall in on. What better place to stash them?

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01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well okay, yeah, I'm just thinking through you.

1381
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:37.680
<v Speaker 3>If you look at Gladio, if you just looked at

1382
01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>it on the surface, if you went on Wikipedia and

1383
01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:41.479
<v Speaker 3>you go, oh, well, you know, it was all to

1384
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.800
<v Speaker 3>fight communism. What's bad with that? It was never to

1385
01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>fight communism. I'd established that one hundred percent. There was

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01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:54.119
<v Speaker 3>no communism. There was no communism legitimate. Even the Tudor

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01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:58.479
<v Speaker 3>Party in Iran. Go back and look at because I

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01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:01.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, this Tutor Party that they claimed was communists,

1389
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:06.479
<v Speaker 3>and it may have been communists, but how many people

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01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:11.319
<v Speaker 3>were in the Tudor Party, like a thousand? There were

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01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:16.119
<v Speaker 3>millions of people in Iran. So we went over through

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01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:18.920
<v Speaker 3>a government because there's a thousand people in the country.

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01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:22.800
<v Speaker 3>You didn't like the Tudor Party was no threat. There

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01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>were no threat to anybody. It was an excuse, every

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01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:29.600
<v Speaker 3>single one of them. Watamala, Nicaragua, Oh my god, they're

1396
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:33.880
<v Speaker 3>all communists. They they told us the park was communist.

1397
01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>The fark never even talked to a communist. So the

1398
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 3>entire thing is a lie. And once you get that part,

1399
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>then you have to dig a little deeper and say, well,

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01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:48.359
<v Speaker 3>what were they hiding with the lie? Pat Con to

1401
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:55.319
<v Speaker 3>me was the anti communist umbrella of legitimacy that hid

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01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:58.680
<v Speaker 3>the actual operation that was being conducted.

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01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess the theory I'm trying to articulate is is

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01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:04.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of the way I see it with at least

1405
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:07.319
<v Speaker 2>pat Con, and the way it interacts with something like

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01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:09.880
<v Speaker 2>a gladio of sorts is I almost feel like that's

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01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:12.239
<v Speaker 2>like an asset that can tap into. So like there

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01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.399
<v Speaker 2>will be operators on the ground in pat Con who

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01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>their belief of it is they don't think they're any

1410
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.199
<v Speaker 2>part of any false flag and uh and to some

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01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:23.520
<v Speaker 2>extent even maybe on to the higher ups of pat CON.

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01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>This is an intelligence gathering operation. But all it takes

1413
01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is onesies, twosies, a little here and there to make

1414
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a shift, a little shift, and you already have essentially

1415
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>these are essentially stay behind units. But then you just

1416
01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:39.279
<v Speaker 2>put one one little actor, drop him in there, and

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01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:41.520
<v Speaker 2>then now he is someone to know and he can

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01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>he can make it go live. Like you've already set

1419
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>that thing into play. Yeah, like straths may Yeah.

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01:29:47.640 --> 01:29:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my whole point. So let me talk about

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01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:52.960
<v Speaker 3>that for just a second, because do you make a

1422
01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:56.880
<v Speaker 3>very very important point. So people ask me all the

1423
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:00.319
<v Speaker 3>time because I'm military, Well, is all the milk military?

1424
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:03.279
<v Speaker 3>Then bad that was involved in these CIA operations like

1425
01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>with the Contras and stuff. No, because you're you really

1426
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:12.079
<v Speaker 3>have to delineate between. So if pat Con the entire

1427
01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>concept was bad, and I would argue that it is,

1428
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:19.680
<v Speaker 3>it was a false foot facade. Now does that mean

1429
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:23.479
<v Speaker 3>everybody in pat Con was bad? No, that's your point.

1430
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Just like when we were illegally supporting the Contras, this

1431
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:35.920
<v Speaker 3>CIA intelligence that was made up said they were communists.

1432
01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:39.279
<v Speaker 3>So if you get a JSOT guy down there training

1433
01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:45.000
<v Speaker 3>what are literally terrorists, but they're described as anti terrorists

1434
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:49.399
<v Speaker 3>or anti communists fighters because we were told the Sandinistas

1435
01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>were communists. So you get this gung ho young twenty

1436
01:30:53.720 --> 01:30:59.560
<v Speaker 3>two year old buff you know, green beret whatever ranger

1437
01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:03.399
<v Speaker 3>guide down there and he's training people to fight communists,

1438
01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.319
<v Speaker 3>that's what he thinks he's doing. He's not doing that.

1439
01:31:06.840 --> 01:31:10.119
<v Speaker 3>He is training people to be terrorists to attack a

1440
01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:15.039
<v Speaker 3>legitimate government that the CIA, and the International Syndicate doesn't

1441
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 3>like so they are using that capability, and that's to

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01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:22.279
<v Speaker 3>your point. Does that mean everybody involved in the operation

1443
01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:27.600
<v Speaker 3>is bad. No, it does not, because they rely almost

1444
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:34.960
<v Speaker 3>exclusively on CIA intelligence, which is not intelligence. It is

1445
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:40.479
<v Speaker 3>an agenda to do whatever the International Syndicate wants done.

1446
01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:49.399
<v Speaker 3>They United Fruit owned primarily all of Nicaragua. They owned

1447
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.840
<v Speaker 3>almost all of the irritable land there. They didn't use

1448
01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:56.800
<v Speaker 3>all of it. They didn't want competition, so they had,

1449
01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:01.239
<v Speaker 3>through corrupt land deals, basically bought the higher country. So

1450
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:05.079
<v Speaker 3>you have peasants and you have this elite group that

1451
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:11.880
<v Speaker 3>they co opt into suppressing terroristically the peasants so they

1452
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:15.840
<v Speaker 3>can live a life of luxury by sucking up to

1453
01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:20.840
<v Speaker 3>United Fruit. And when the Sandinistas come to power and

1454
01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:24.159
<v Speaker 3>kick United Fruit out of the country, they just pick

1455
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>up the phone and call the CIA say hey, I

1456
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>want that government gone. The CIA then produces the necessary

1457
01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:38.319
<v Speaker 3>intelligence to convince Southcom to go down to Nicaragua and

1458
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>train the contrast in Al Salvador and Honduras and Guatemala,

1459
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and they think they're training anti communist people to take

1460
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.119
<v Speaker 3>out a communistic government, when that's not the case. At all,

1461
01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:57.600
<v Speaker 3>and they hide all of the real information from these people.

1462
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.199
<v Speaker 2>I did want to mention actually when when I mentioned

1463
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:07.119
<v Speaker 2>earlier the little info about the Florida swamps and the Everglades,

1464
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.479
<v Speaker 2>and I actually I think I recollect that from my

1465
01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>OKAC research because I believe it was purported that McVeigh

1466
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I believe was actually going with Roger Moore to deliver

1467
01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>arms to the Cuban exiles in the swamps down in

1468
01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the Everglades. If so, yeah, then that kind of goes

1469
01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:25.439
<v Speaker 2>more to the idea of like literal stay behind units

1470
01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're training up there. Now, the last question I

1471
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>want to bring it to. I mean, I think we've

1472
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of done an incidentally done a good job of

1473
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of going through the eras through this. Let's bring

1474
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it back to bring it to modern day. And I

1475
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>think probably one of the best examples of kind of

1476
01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:42.359
<v Speaker 2>what I'm driving at is in how it's evolved. Although

1477
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>when I say it's evolved, the other forms still coexists

1478
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:46.760
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, Like we have like the Michigan

1479
01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:49.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff that's kind of almost like a sort of in

1480
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>the same milieu of the OKC stuff. But then we

1481
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>have what's kind of you kind of emerged in the

1482
01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:00.359
<v Speaker 2>past decade or so, the rise of the school shooter.

1483
01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:03.439
<v Speaker 2>And now I would I would I would say or

1484
01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>or just the shootings, maybe not necessarily school. I mean,

1485
01:34:07.079 --> 01:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>it kind of is a wide range of different things,

1486
01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>but generally speaking is typically schools. And I don't know

1487
01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>if you've really embroiled yourself in this area, but like

1488
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I would say, something like the nine A seven sixty four,

1489
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>that's probably one of the best best ties in Yeah,

1490
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:22.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's I know a lot of people are already

1491
01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of jumping to that conclusion with this one, which

1492
01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I get. I actually think there's a lot of that

1493
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>does seem to point to that, but it's not conclusive.

1494
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It's still very early with the most recent shooting over

1495
01:34:31.079 --> 01:34:33.359
<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota, but even then, that's kind of what people

1496
01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>are jumping at, and it it kind of, let's be real,

1497
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of fits the patterns. We get a lot of

1498
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:39.319
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on in the world right now. Let's be real.

1499
01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>The powers that be would love a distraction right now,

1500
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and this is kind of the perfect distraction for them,

1501
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and it is if you look into seven six four

1502
01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and then if you it's parent purported parent organization O

1503
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:57.600
<v Speaker 2>nine A. It's it's it's origins very much are in Gladio,

1504
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.720
<v Speaker 2>which seems to be here, you know, where I'm driving at,

1505
01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>and that is kind of leaked intoday. That was you know,

1506
01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of formed in the post World War two era,

1507
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and then at least that's the legend I think technically speaking,

1508
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:13.359
<v Speaker 2>the guy who has the Gladio, if I recall correctly,

1509
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>the guy with the Gladiot connections, it does also make

1510
01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>a big legend of himself, but many until people do so,

1511
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like, how do you parse what's real

1512
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:23.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not, But it seems I think there was some

1513
01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.399
<v Speaker 2>sort of sources that do seem to corroborate his his

1514
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Gladio connections. So aside from just this word.

1515
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:33.199
<v Speaker 3>The part that was in the UK for the nine A.

1516
01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I get I just because I just thoughts

1517
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and kind of how it's involving into today. It's obviously

1518
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>seemingly now coming into the chat rooms. It's even a

1519
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of even the child trafficking component with a seven

1520
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>sixty four. Uh maybe not trafficking maybe but overtly but

1521
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe at least abuse, because that's leaning into that. I mean, hell,

1522
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>even trafficking there's been multiple cases of seven six four

1523
01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>or the calm or just generally those types of people

1524
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that have you know, abducted children or rapes and stuff

1525
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:07.159
<v Speaker 2>like that. So I mean, uh, and I mean these

1526
01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>are also people that are committing shootings and stuff. They're

1527
01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>just they're literally accelerationists. This whole chaos, out of control thing.

1528
01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Their whole modus operandi is creating chaos. Hell, even this

1529
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>current thing going on with the shooting, a lot of

1530
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>what they are about is even tapping into the narrative game.

1531
01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Kind of weird. I guess this kind of ties into

1532
01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.199
<v Speaker 2>the idea of like, oh, it's just Cammi's and like, well,

1533
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:31.439
<v Speaker 2>they're kind of playing off that, like that dialectical thing,

1534
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>but on a higher level, almost as if the populace

1535
01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:38.800
<v Speaker 2>has evolved and now they're literally intentionally trying to play

1536
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>off the binary dialectic going on. For example, this guy's

1537
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:45.159
<v Speaker 2>a trainny, but at the same time then he's saying like,

1538
01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:48.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, six million wasn't enough or whatever, like, so

1539
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:51.520
<v Speaker 2>people are getting conflicting messages is he left, is he right?

1540
01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Is he what? And then people immediately read into it

1541
01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>what they want. I mean, hell, we already literally, I

1542
01:36:56.319 --> 01:36:59.039
<v Speaker 2>think hours before this there was a freaking cash ptel

1543
01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:01.399
<v Speaker 2>put out with like list a few different things about like,

1544
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:03.319
<v Speaker 2>oh look at that, Oh he said he hates Trump.

1545
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:05.319
<v Speaker 2>He said, oh, this is right. When you're like you're

1546
01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:07.520
<v Speaker 2>missing the point, you're missing the point entirely.

1547
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:13.039
<v Speaker 3>So I have an Anthony Sutton actually coined these phrases,

1548
01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the Hegelian right and the Hegelian left right. So if

1549
01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>you keep in mind that that's a that's a narrative

1550
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>in and of itself. There is no right and left.

1551
01:37:28.399 --> 01:37:33.479
<v Speaker 3>There's a Hegelian pretend left, and there's a Hegelian pretend right,

1552
01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:40.800
<v Speaker 3>and those are too basically for most people. You like

1553
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:43.760
<v Speaker 3>to always think cowboys and Indians. You like to always

1554
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:45.800
<v Speaker 3>think there's good guys and there's bad guys.

1555
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Black Cat's white yeats.

1556
01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is not true. There is a group of people.

1557
01:37:52.680 --> 01:37:55.399
<v Speaker 3>And I kind of used to when I first started this,

1558
01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I used to joke that the International Syndicate like the

1559
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:04.439
<v Speaker 3>He's not left, He's just a Hegelian leftist. And then

1560
01:38:04.479 --> 01:38:07.640
<v Speaker 3>you've got the Koch brothers, they're not right. They all

1561
01:38:07.680 --> 01:38:11.079
<v Speaker 3>want the same thing. They want to control resources and

1562
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:14.439
<v Speaker 3>they want to control us. So they're the Hegalian right.

1563
01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Hell, even capitalism communism is that too?

1564
01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Now?

1565
01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I will admit I have my political theory.

1566
01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I it depends on capitalism. Is it's kind of you know,

1567
01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:26.319
<v Speaker 2>depends on who's defining it. But generally speaking, I mean

1568
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:30.000
<v Speaker 2>that's literally the Nazi communist kind of dialectic that we're

1569
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>sort of seeing here. They kind of roughly made it

1570
01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>this capitalistic or state capitalism and or state socialism or

1571
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:40.119
<v Speaker 2>communism or whatever, and created this false dialectic. And even

1572
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>as simple as you point out these corporations, let's be real,

1573
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.960
<v Speaker 2>how do the right, how does the right generally approach corporations?

1574
01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>That's good? These are the John Gults of the world,

1575
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the the Howard Rourke's. These are the the the high,

1576
01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the well to do businessmen, the Elon Musk's uh.

1577
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:58.720
<v Speaker 3>And then Hegalian left does it the same thing with

1578
01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:02.039
<v Speaker 3>their funders. Yeah, like the sorosis. So that's why I'm

1579
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:06.960
<v Speaker 3>saying the entire narrative is bullshit. If you could excuse me,

1580
01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:11.239
<v Speaker 3>if you could pretend that they're three year olds and

1581
01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:14.560
<v Speaker 3>you're playing the game with straws. You know how one

1582
01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:16.680
<v Speaker 3>straw was shorter than the other. And that's how you're

1583
01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:18.279
<v Speaker 3>going to get to pick who's it. I don't know

1584
01:39:18.279 --> 01:39:20.079
<v Speaker 3>if you did that when you were kids, but we did.

1585
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:24.960
<v Speaker 3>You picked like little straws, like straw hay straws or

1586
01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:28.840
<v Speaker 3>grass blades. And if you were going to play a

1587
01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:31.000
<v Speaker 3>game and you're gonna pick who's it first, like hide

1588
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:34.640
<v Speaker 3>and seek, whoever got the short one was going to

1589
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:38.920
<v Speaker 3>be it. That they're literally in a room pulling straws.

1590
01:39:39.239 --> 01:39:41.319
<v Speaker 3>Everybody that got a short straw is going to be

1591
01:39:41.359 --> 01:39:43.760
<v Speaker 3>the Hegelian right, and everybody that got a long straw

1592
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:47.319
<v Speaker 3>is going to be the Hegelian left. They're in one club.

1593
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:51.760
<v Speaker 3>If you go back to the thing, like we just

1594
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:55.439
<v Speaker 3>did an entire series on Skull and Bones, they all

1595
01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:58.680
<v Speaker 3>came out of the same club. Of them are right,

1596
01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the Hegelian right. Half of them are the Hegelian left.

1597
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:05.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a false narrative. It's used to distract us and

1598
01:40:06.039 --> 01:40:10.800
<v Speaker 3>make us pretend like it's the Cowboys versus the Pittsburgh

1599
01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Steelers back in the you know, nineteen seventies, when they

1600
01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.279
<v Speaker 3>were like the two teams that everybody wanted to watch.

1601
01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:18.159
<v Speaker 3>It's all bullshit.

1602
01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>It's Clinton and Bush slinging drugs in Arkansas. It's a yeah,

1603
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>it's a I mean, what more can you really say?

1604
01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Narrative? So if for the last eighty years the drug explosion,

1605
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:38.520
<v Speaker 3>no matter what president was in office, if you just

1606
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.359
<v Speaker 3>took a narrative bringing it back to home to your point,

1607
01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:49.560
<v Speaker 3>if today we just watched a government that a friend

1608
01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:54.039
<v Speaker 3>of mine was not at January sixth. He was in California.

1609
01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:57.079
<v Speaker 3>He made a post on the internet that kind of

1610
01:40:57.359 --> 01:41:01.920
<v Speaker 3>was associated with January sixth, and he had his house

1611
01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:05.279
<v Speaker 3>rated by the FBI. He wasn't even in They found

1612
01:41:05.399 --> 01:41:08.079
<v Speaker 3>him based on a post. Now, do you want me

1613
01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:10.720
<v Speaker 3>to believe that that guy that just did that school

1614
01:41:10.720 --> 01:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>shooting they couldn't find that guy in all of the

1615
01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>shit that he posted. Give me a break. If they

1616
01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:25.079
<v Speaker 3>wanted to find these people, they have so much of

1617
01:41:25.079 --> 01:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>our information. They know every kid that is messed up

1618
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:34.520
<v Speaker 3>in the head, most of them are under psychological evaluation,

1619
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:38.399
<v Speaker 3>most of them are on prescription medicine. Are you telling

1620
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:43.920
<v Speaker 3>me that the world's most intelligence gathering organization that can

1621
01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:47.399
<v Speaker 3>find the little needle in the grandma with cancer in

1622
01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:51.560
<v Speaker 3>whatever state she was from, that was in Washington, d C.

1623
01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Can't find that kid. I don't buy it. I don't

1624
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:55.399
<v Speaker 3>buy any of it.

1625
01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>He was posting his plans basically, I was covering this morning.

1626
01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:01.359
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I mean, he he bought.

1627
01:42:01.159 --> 01:42:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Three guns in close proximity and a shitload of weapons

1628
01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:09.000
<v Speaker 3>or ammunition for the guns, and that did not raise it.

1629
01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I can't go buy a gun, three of them in

1630
01:42:12.039 --> 01:42:15.199
<v Speaker 3>a row and not draw a red flag in that system.

1631
01:42:16.640 --> 01:42:21.199
<v Speaker 3>How did that not flag him? So all of those

1632
01:42:21.239 --> 01:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>types of things, they want you to believe that that's

1633
01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.680
<v Speaker 3>all possible when it's not possible, while at the same

1634
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:29.039
<v Speaker 3>time showing you it's not possible with what they did

1635
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:32.279
<v Speaker 3>with January sixth. They can't find anybody they want. They

1636
01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:35.560
<v Speaker 3>can make up a crime on anybody they want. So

1637
01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:39.880
<v Speaker 3>they have the capability to do this, where they choose

1638
01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:42.399
<v Speaker 3>to use that capability is what we should be paying

1639
01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:46.840
<v Speaker 3>attention to, and that, to me is the most disturbing

1640
01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:50.520
<v Speaker 3>part of all of this, is that we are so

1641
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:53.840
<v Speaker 3>fixated that there is actually a left and a right

1642
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.399
<v Speaker 3>when we've been proven over and over and over again.

1643
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:05.119
<v Speaker 3>The changes between the Reagan administration, the Bush Senior Clinton

1644
01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Bush Junior Obama, not a damn thing changed. The only thing,

1645
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:15.840
<v Speaker 3>like opium continued cocaine, continued, And if you are spending

1646
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:19.880
<v Speaker 3>billions of dollars in this quote unquote fight against drugs,

1647
01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:22.159
<v Speaker 3>do you think that you ought to have at least

1648
01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:25.920
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a decline in the supply coming

1649
01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:29.199
<v Speaker 3>into America? If you are actually fighting a war on drugs,

1650
01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:32.039
<v Speaker 3>if you go to Columbia, what you find every drop

1651
01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.039
<v Speaker 3>of that money was used for. It was not a

1652
01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:39.199
<v Speaker 3>single drop of it used for fighting the cocaine. It

1653
01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:44.439
<v Speaker 3>was paying and training to create a national police force

1654
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>in Colombia and terrorists, and those terrorists we were told

1655
01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:54.920
<v Speaker 3>was fighting the farc. Well, the farc was basically a

1656
01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>representative of the people that had been displaced because of

1657
01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Colombian oil in the olivegarchs. And if I have to

1658
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:06.359
<v Speaker 3>exploit a company or a country for oil, I might

1659
01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>as well. If they have mountains, I'm gonna grow. I'm

1660
01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna grow whatever drug crop there is, because you can

1661
01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:16.359
<v Speaker 3>pick between opium and cocaine. So they already had coca

1662
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:20.079
<v Speaker 3>down there. Coca was a medicinal plant that was used

1663
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:25.319
<v Speaker 3>to make tea and like real medications traditionally for the

1664
01:44:25.359 --> 01:44:29.119
<v Speaker 3>indigenous people in that area. So hey, if you've got

1665
01:44:29.119 --> 01:44:32.359
<v Speaker 3>that and I make cocaine, we'll go with that. And

1666
01:44:32.439 --> 01:44:35.720
<v Speaker 3>so you find that every single one of these things.

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01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>So in the billions of dollars we sent down there

1668
01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:41.800
<v Speaker 3>in the war on drugs, what we actually created was

1669
01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:48.279
<v Speaker 3>a twenty thousand person pairamilitary capability housed in Colombia. And

1670
01:44:48.319 --> 01:44:51.680
<v Speaker 3>you know what they're using them for now, rentam mercenaries.

1671
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:55.079
<v Speaker 3>They're in Ukraine, they're in Africa. So all of these

1672
01:44:55.119 --> 01:45:01.680
<v Speaker 3>private military contracting companies they hire third country tree nationals,

1673
01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:06.520
<v Speaker 3>primarily Colombia. We trained all of those people to supply

1674
01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:11.079
<v Speaker 3>to these private military contractors. They are using them. You

1675
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:15.000
<v Speaker 3>in uses them as rent a pair of military security.

1676
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:20.039
<v Speaker 3>The State Apartment uses them. And so we the people

1677
01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:24.199
<v Speaker 3>have paid for this paramilitary capability that both the CIA

1678
01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>covertly but they also use them overtly and private militaries.

1679
01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.560
<v Speaker 3>All of those guys. In Iraq there was Colombia's everywhere.

1680
01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:34.920
<v Speaker 3>That in Afghanistan there were Colombians everywhere.

1681
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:38.399
<v Speaker 2>One example of maybe not directly this, but kind of

1682
01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>pointing to what you're getting at that. A recent example

1683
01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:43.359
<v Speaker 2>is Syria. I don't know if you remember the fallout

1684
01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:46.119
<v Speaker 2>that was going in Syria with the DRUS and all

1685
01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the rampant killings between the sectarian violence, and it's kind

1686
01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of confusing of who's doing what, this or that. But

1687
01:45:51.800 --> 01:45:55.439
<v Speaker 2>when you get down to the crux of it, I

1688
01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:58.560
<v Speaker 2>believe what really set it off was essentially one group

1689
01:45:58.640 --> 01:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>claims that they can kidnapp some either one or multiple

1690
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:03.239
<v Speaker 2>people from their group, and the other one claims the

1691
01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:06.720
<v Speaker 2>same exact thing. You also have between the different violence,

1692
01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you have mercenaries all over the place. So you have

1693
01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:13.560
<v Speaker 2>this crazy obfuscated situation, which I've said from the beginning

1694
01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:15.279
<v Speaker 2>when I found out with the root cause of the

1695
01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:18.720
<v Speaker 2>whole skirmish and essentially that Israel, then when you was

1696
01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:21.479
<v Speaker 2>able to take buffer zones and kind of capitalize on it,

1697
01:46:21.479 --> 01:46:24.560
<v Speaker 2>it seemed all too convenient that both sides just magically

1698
01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:27.039
<v Speaker 2>missed some people all of a sudden. To me, I

1699
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I mean, obviously I have no idea. It

1700
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.079
<v Speaker 2>could have literally just been one side stole one some

1701
01:46:31.079 --> 01:46:33.319
<v Speaker 2>people from the other and vice versa. But to me,

1702
01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:35.760
<v Speaker 2>it looks like both people seem genuinely like, hey, what

1703
01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the hell you took some people. It's like, well, maybe

1704
01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:40.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a third party here exploiting your sensibilities. I don't know,

1705
01:46:42.880 --> 01:46:44.640
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of what it feels like. And then you

1706
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:49.079
<v Speaker 2>add in the mayhem of these mercenaries, which there were

1707
01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.760
<v Speaker 2>claims by the Seeran government, which I don't know whether

1708
01:46:51.760 --> 01:46:53.439
<v Speaker 2>it's true or not, that a lot of the supposed

1709
01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:56.800
<v Speaker 2>sectarian violence was coming from different mercenaries who weren't even

1710
01:46:56.800 --> 01:46:59.399
<v Speaker 2>technically part of their group. So it's just all this now.

1711
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the truth of the matter is,

1712
01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.239
<v Speaker 2>but just point to even just the mercenaries itself could

1713
01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:05.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of create this. They can play off that when

1714
01:47:05.640 --> 01:47:07.560
<v Speaker 2>they want to, Oh, these are just they're not even

1715
01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:08.119
<v Speaker 2>from here.

1716
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:12.399
<v Speaker 3>So plausible deniability. So what you have if you zoom

1717
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:15.880
<v Speaker 3>out in Syria, it's a resource issue. Every one of

1718
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:19.760
<v Speaker 3>them boils down to that. So these oil companies around

1719
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:24.319
<v Speaker 3>there wanted a pipeline through Syria. So Asad flew to

1720
01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:28.479
<v Speaker 3>the UK, met with a queen personally said hey, you

1721
01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:30.319
<v Speaker 3>can build your pipeline. I don't have a problem with

1722
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:34.199
<v Speaker 3>your pipeline. You're not bringing British forces to guide guard

1723
01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:37.840
<v Speaker 3>the pipeline. My forces will guard the pipeline. You're gonna

1724
01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:40.920
<v Speaker 3>pay me royalties. I have an incentive to guard it

1725
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:44.239
<v Speaker 3>and not let anything happen. To it. The Queen basically

1726
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:47.119
<v Speaker 3>told them to pound sand kind of just like lu Mamba,

1727
01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:49.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of like Mozaedic, kind of like all of them.

1728
01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:53.720
<v Speaker 3>So Asad said, okay, well then you're not going to

1729
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:56.880
<v Speaker 3>build the pipeline because I'm not allowing British forces in

1730
01:47:56.880 --> 01:48:00.439
<v Speaker 3>my country because every place you show up, the president

1731
01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:03.399
<v Speaker 3>gets overthrown. So you're not going to be in my country.

1732
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:07.399
<v Speaker 3>And so they declared all out war on a SOD.

1733
01:48:08.199 --> 01:48:11.119
<v Speaker 3>He was supposed to go with the Arab spring. He

1734
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:16.479
<v Speaker 3>was left standing. And so it was full scale attack

1735
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:21.840
<v Speaker 3>on a SOD from all forces, Israel, NATO, everybody. They

1736
01:48:21.840 --> 01:48:25.560
<v Speaker 3>wanted them gone. Well who shows up? ISIS and al Qaeda. Well,

1737
01:48:25.560 --> 01:48:27.680
<v Speaker 3>where did they come from? Well they were trained in

1738
01:48:27.720 --> 01:48:32.119
<v Speaker 3>the by the CIA in Afghanistan. Both of those two organizations,

1739
01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:36.039
<v Speaker 3>al Qaeda and ISIS are trained and created by the CIA.

1740
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:39.560
<v Speaker 3>They are used by the CIA all over because once

1741
01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:44.439
<v Speaker 3>we lost the anti Soviet, anti communists boogeyman, they always

1742
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:48.840
<v Speaker 3>have to have a boogeyman. From the fall of the

1743
01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Berlin Wall in the late eighties early nineties, we immediately

1744
01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:58.439
<v Speaker 3>transitioned with Desert Storm one to radical Islamic terrorists. They're

1745
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:01.399
<v Speaker 3>in the new boogeyman. So they already created.

1746
01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:04.840
<v Speaker 2>That funny you Soalia and in the same going into Isis,

1747
01:49:04.920 --> 01:49:06.439
<v Speaker 2>we're still there fighting Isis.

1748
01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so create radical Islamic terrorist in uh Afghanistan

1749
01:49:16.520 --> 01:49:20.319
<v Speaker 3>during the eighties fighting the communists. And so now we

1750
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:24.880
<v Speaker 3>have the whole mushah Haden al Qaeda Isis birth and

1751
01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:27.680
<v Speaker 3>now we have our built in new boogeyman waiting on

1752
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the sideline. So the Soviet Union comes down and immediately

1753
01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:34.520
<v Speaker 3>we got a new enemy. That's not a coincidence. That's

1754
01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:38.760
<v Speaker 3>called chaos and control. So now they're going to create

1755
01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:42.159
<v Speaker 3>terrorism because that's going to be the new Soviet threat.

1756
01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:47.600
<v Speaker 3>And everywhere we go it's all to fight terrorism. And

1757
01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:51.239
<v Speaker 3>that's what happened in Syria. We want a side gone,

1758
01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:54.880
<v Speaker 3>So we're going to have terrorist events in Syria. So

1759
01:49:55.039 --> 01:49:59.039
<v Speaker 3>al Qaeda comes in, Isis comes in, and it's all

1760
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:02.520
<v Speaker 3>an all out front to take a sawd out. And

1761
01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:05.680
<v Speaker 3>that's basically all you need to know. It was Israel,

1762
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:09.479
<v Speaker 3>it was NATO, it was everybody, and they're gonna throw

1763
01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:13.319
<v Speaker 3>everything they have at him until he's gone. And now

1764
01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:14.479
<v Speaker 3>he's gone.

1765
01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're almost at two hours. That's how you know.

1766
01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:21.319
<v Speaker 2>This has been a good episode, so I appreciate your time.

1767
01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll probably leave it there. I mean, if

1768
01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:24.720
<v Speaker 2>you have anything else you feel like it needs to

1769
01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:26.119
<v Speaker 2>be added. But I think we did a pretty good

1770
01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.640
<v Speaker 2>job of covering the basics of a gladio. But let

1771
01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:32.119
<v Speaker 2>people know where they can find you any last thoughts

1772
01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:33.479
<v Speaker 2>and we'll get on out of here.

1773
01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:37.760
<v Speaker 3>So basically two primary places. I'm on Rumble at the

1774
01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Colonel's Corner. That's the thing run Rumble channel, and I

1775
01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:45.359
<v Speaker 3>do do I'm traveling right now. I'm up in Ohio.

1776
01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I live right down the road from you, by the way.

1777
01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:55.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm in Central Florida too, and so I normally do

1778
01:50:55.600 --> 01:50:59.399
<v Speaker 3>shows every day at four o'clock. We do books on

1779
01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:05.079
<v Speaker 3>this sub. We've done probably twenty five different books. I

1780
01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:07.000
<v Speaker 3>just kind of go through the book. I pre read

1781
01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:10.600
<v Speaker 3>the books, check out the author, and if it's ads

1782
01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:15.479
<v Speaker 3>context Operation Claudia, like we're doing Columbia right now, which

1783
01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:17.800
<v Speaker 3>is kind of why that's at the forefront of my mind.

1784
01:51:18.359 --> 01:51:20.680
<v Speaker 3>And basically everything we were ever told about Columbia is

1785
01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>a lie, as with every other area that I've researched,

1786
01:51:25.880 --> 01:51:29.720
<v Speaker 3>and so also on X at Colonel Towner and you

1787
01:51:29.840 --> 01:51:32.279
<v Speaker 3>just fill out colonel awesome.

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01:51:32.319 --> 01:51:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate your time. We'll have to do something

1789
01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:37.199
<v Speaker 2>some other time. We definitely have a lot of common interest.

1790
01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:39.000
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<v Speaker 2>Love you all, We'll see you soon. Bye bye, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you,