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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Oh man? That is a loaded question, my friend?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, how are you? How are you handling the loss?

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The one and done?

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Speaker 4: You said it on errors You're like, look, I just

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want to get out of the first round. You were

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much more pragmatic. B what you fames into us media members?

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We're like, no, man, sweet sixteen. We're playing better basketball.

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We found our identity. We're better defensively, we're rebounding better.

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YadA YadA YadA, Dominique Diamande and Hedem Boop and we

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got this thing figured out and we did we didn't.

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Speaker 1: How are you handling it well?

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Speaker 7: I mean, you certainly expected them to play better. I

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think first and foremost, and I think what Kevin Young

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Speaker 3: The press conference is true. Yesterday was a microcosm of

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how the whole season was.

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Speaker 7: Let's not keete ourselves here, right you know? I saw

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that you were tweeted a lot of other threat that

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Elijah Bryant commented.

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Speaker 8: And I will say this Elijah's break down of the

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reason why DYU lost this spot on almost four twenty

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two from the three point line, gave up fourteen rebounds.

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Speaker 3: That's a big game, right there.

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Speaker 8: Ben, Here's the only thing.

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Speaker 3: I will How can I put this thing because.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say I want to beef with Elijah.

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I want to not to disagree with Elijah, but like,

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maybe you can help me with the right word here, But.

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Speaker 7: Like if that was a an exception, and oh my gosh,

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that's the only time that BYU lost the game because

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of a lack of daisical effort on the.

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Speaker 3: Glass and because of poor shooting.

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Speaker 7: If that was a one time thing, I think that

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we could talk ourselves into you know what, it was

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just one bad game.

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Speaker 3: But then you and I have been.

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Speaker 7: Doing this for the entire year for about two or

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three seasons now, and let's just look at the way

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that this season was. How many times this year have

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did DYU lose a game because of a lack of

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daisical effort on defense and offensive rebounds? And you know

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it was just a piss poor performance on shooting the ball.

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Is that a one time thing or you know that

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pretty much was every single game. And so that's the

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thing that bothers me a nerd sing more than anything.

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Speaker 3: Is, Look, this is not a one time thing. This

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is not just oh, by you.

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Speaker 7: Lost because of these things and it was just a.

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Speaker 3: One time situation. No, you wasn't.

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Speaker 7: That has happened all year. It even happened on wins.

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Speaker 4: And so let's be honest at JT. Elijah has not

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been watching this team all season long.

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Speaker 7: And that's why I'm thinking, like I don't know, and

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right now, obviously. That's why I'm saying, like I don't

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want to like contradictum a part because his his his

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analysis is spot on.

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Speaker 3: The only problem is.

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Speaker 7: Been like that has been the whole thing the whole year.

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And so how am I taking this? I you know,

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like as a former player, I'm pretty bothered because, you know,

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like Robbie McCombs said, this is the most disappointing season

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in YU basketball history because with all of the operation

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costs for basketball, you are pretty close to twenty million

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between the coaches salary and all of the infrastructure that

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is needed. Plus on top of all the nil you

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are pretty close to twenty million.

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Speaker 3: Let's call us beat a spade. That's number one.

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Speaker 7: Number two, you have the number one player in the country,

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number one draft pick. You have all of that going on,

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and so you know, like when you when Eliza says,

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if you're asking a role player to step up, I'm

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gonna be humanly disagree because what is the opportunity?

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Speaker 3: How much exposure are these guys?

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Speaker 1: They had six weeks, They've had six weeks. They've had

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Speaker 7: And you're telling me that if you are a shooter

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like Costage or Mahi Loo or Dominique, and you know

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they're Richie is down. Why are you not camping inside

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the annex shooting a thousand shots every day? Because this

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because this is the opportunity of a lifetime that I

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don't I don't understand that. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 7: And so because here's the thing, for whatever you say,

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I did this for a living, probably very few people

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in YU basketball history. Trevin new is probably the only one.

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I would say, you know, maybe Chase Fisher. But like

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as it comes to catch and shoots in BYU basketball history,

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there's not a whole lot of folks that I did

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what I did.

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Speaker 3: And so if that's.

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Speaker 7: All your role is to be a catch and shoe

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guy into play hard on defense, my gosh, how are

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you not doing that? And so as you see this

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effort and this lack of you know, I'm gonna give

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myself an opportunity. I'm gonna put myself an opportunity to

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be better and to have opportunity of a lifetime for me,

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it's difficult for me to process the loss from yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't necessarily agree that it's the most disappointing

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season in bau basketball history. I do give the grace

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right that I think is merited for the season ending

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injuries of Dawson, Nate Pickens, and of course the Todd

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King Richie Saunders. So like a one and done. Although

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extremely disappointing, this is one of the most This is

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one of the most disappointing seasons because of the expectation,

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because of the resource application for the infrastructure, the organizational design,

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because your athletic director is a basketball guy, like this

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is his baby, the basketball program and everything that is

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his That is his baby, Okay, so everything like with

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that being in you know, in mind, it is one

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of the most disappointing seasons in BUE basketball systm. But

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the most disappointing season is the seasons in which like

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apathy sets in for BYU fans when they don't show

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it to the Marriott Center. And that was like more

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so the transition from I think Roger Reid to to

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the Steve Cleveland eric coach Ingle was.

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Speaker 1: There as the interim coach.

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Speaker 4: That was probably the most disappointing, I think because no

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one was showing up to the Marriott Center at that

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shown up to Merritt Center and we're looking like the

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Huntsman Center. That to me is the most disappointing thing

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because the fan base and the donor base and everyone

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has given up on the team.

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Speaker 1: We never had that this year.

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Speaker 7: Well and again, right, I mean, I just you know,

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that's why I said, you know when I was and

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Speaker 3: How do you describe this season? Am I? In this season?

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Speaker 7: I would describe as would have, could have, should have? Right,

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you know, well, Dallan Hall is a would have could

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have shoot of situation. I would even say, you know,

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Tanner Toulson instead of Alexey Coastache is a would have

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, like would have, could have,

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should have? You hindsight?

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Speaker 7: You know, it's twenty twenty, you know, but like there

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is something to be said about the culture of the program.

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to get hurt, you know, we would definitely may have

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Speaker 3: But you don't know these things. But maybe that's why.

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Speaker 7: It's important to have more than just a one culture

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guy on the program, you know what I mean. And

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and at the end of the day, Ben, we are

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all going to sound very smart when you look at

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you know, when you look you know, at the end

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Speaker 3: Where we see all of that, right, I just think that.

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Speaker 7: First things first, you have the perfect excuse and I

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don't want to say excuse of the negative. We have

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the perfect way to rationalize it why this season was

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so bad, and that's because of injuries, bar none, point

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blank simple. You lost your face of the program two

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thirds through the year, you lost your you know for

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a third of the season, you didn't have Richie.

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Speaker 3: And then you look, you lost.

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Speaker 7: Your six menut of the year for eighty percent of

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the season. You lost your backup point guard for the

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entire season boom. But But the thing that that it

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you know, from from Abdullah Amad, you know, like I

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just he was playing in the G League, so not

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to go to the NBA. That's number one, right, Dominique Diamonde.

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Why didn't he see the floor more?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 7: Because the way he played in a couple of games

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at the Big Twelve tournament, he looked really good. But obviously,

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again this is not a knock on Kevin Young and

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the staff because those guys have credit shows that can

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travel the globe. But what was happening in practice was

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he really not performing as well? And so that goes

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on him. Why didn't he step up right coastage?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 7: Why was he so inconsistent from three? Well, but he

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was just a freshman. I don't care that he was

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just a freshman. I came in as a freshman and

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I shot everything that came my way, and everybody told

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us that he was going to be a shooter. But

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to me, the most glaring one of them all was

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Tyler Maruss. I'm Tyler Maruss literally came to BUYU as

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the undisputed, you know know, anointed sniper right the the

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the the Travin now the Jack Gohler whatever his name

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is from Oakland, that that you know, knockout Kentucky before Kevin,

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before Kevin Young got here, when Mark Polpe was the coach,

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and I I mean he shot thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: From three for the season, like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: And so there are a lot of question marks.

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Speaker 3: You know, why was Keva being so up and down? Right?

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Speaker 7: I felt like keV I actually had a better a

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better year lest year than he did this year. And

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you know, I think it's obviously you have some bright points.

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You know, we're going to see AJ's jersey be retired

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at BUYU in about fifteen years, you know from now,

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and that's going to be fantastic. AJ is one of

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one and why year could that be?

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Speaker 3: Well? When is by You going to.

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Speaker 7: Get another Aj? When will that be another a J?

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I mean AJ is being talked about like as the

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next you know. I mean he was breaking Kevin Durant

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and Trade Young's record, and I mean, you know, talk

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at a level that is lebron esque coming out of

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Speaker 3: If you get what I'm saying, right, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean, when are we gonna when is by You going

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to get an opportunity to have that type of guy

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you may not agree with it, but when you start

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putting all these things together and the potential that this

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season had, you know, is it the most disappointing season ever?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you could go back and do it again, right,

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because you bring up some names, if you could go

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back and do it again, knowing what you know now,

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would you rather have would you trade Robert the Third

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for Dollen Hall? Would you trade a Lexikostic for Tanner Tilson?

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Would you trade Mihailo Boskovic for Jake Wallen? All three

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of those you got to take all three? Would you

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do it all over again that way?

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Speaker 7: So that's difficult because I got to know Dallan really well.

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I don't know if I would have taken Dallen over

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Robert right the third, mainly because Dallan wanted to be

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a starter, and I get it, I totally get it right.

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Speaker 4: That's aj ended up becoming a point for Dollan would

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still be your point guard, but you could also hand

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that off to aj as as your kind of your

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Speaker 1: He ended up being that anyway.

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Speaker 7: And so I'm gonna say this, I'm not gonna I'm

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not gonna comment on on.

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Speaker 3: The rubber Right situation because I just I just don't.

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Speaker 7: Know, not because I don't have an opinion, but well,

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I don't have an opinion because I don't know. That's

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what I'm saying. I I that's what I'm gonna say.

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I'm not gonna comment on the right situation.

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Speaker 3: Because I can see it both ways. I can see.

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Speaker 7: Why you would keep Rubbert, why we keep Dallan, and

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why we keep rubber Right. And so I'm not gonna

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comment on it because I don't have I don't have

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a formed opinion. I have to rationalize and think about

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that one.

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Speaker 3: But coast it.

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Speaker 7: But Kenner Twson over coasted and Jaqui lean over Mahilo

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on a.

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Speaker 3: Heartbeat, my friend, like you know.

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Speaker 7: And so the Dallon one is a difficult one because

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Robert Wright was, I mean, he them near had you know,

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forty points a couple of games like he was, he was,

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you know what I'm saying. And that's a difficult conversation

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because there were massive pros.

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Speaker 3: And cons on both choices.

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Speaker 7: But the Tanner, Toulson and Jake Quileen come on, Tenner

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Towlson was a massive importantly, Key wrote not even just

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a rotation.

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Speaker 3: Player, but one of the you know, one of the

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main guys.

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Speaker 7: That finished games for a CCU team that has had

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it to the second round, a TCU team that came

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to Pro Bowl and gave BUYU a hard fit, right

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and Jake Qui Leen. I was always a big fan

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of ja Qui Leen. I was extremely disappointed when Jake

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Qui Leen went to went to Utah, you know, let

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alone when he went to Clemson, and so massive respect

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and shout out to Jake's mom, who I got to know.

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I'm a massive fan of j Qui Leen and I

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would say this. People are gonna call me crazy. I

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would take, you know, based on the way the roster

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is going to be, you know it's going to be

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developed next year, I will take Jake Kui Lean before

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I take Colin Chandler. Not because of I think Jake

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is better than Colin, but you think about the fit

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that you need for the team.

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Speaker 3: You know, like you can find for.

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Speaker 7: For the amount of nil that you're going to have

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to pay for Colin, you can find, you know, someone

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that may be a little bit more of a scorer

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than calling this. But Jake kwah Linn, man, you know,

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he has a he has a prototypical basketball body, you know,

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and and you know, but then the question is what

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do you do with Brody Kyleslowski. We haven't seen Brody

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Kyleslowski yet, right, is he going to be able to

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stay healthy? How is he going to perform next year

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as a as a you know, uh uh uh freshman

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red shirt and a medical red shirt freshman. I mean,

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you know, the last time that Brody Kolsowski played basketball

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it was going to be three years ago. And so

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you know, there are a lot of questions to answer,

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and I will say this, man, this is the most

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important off season of the Kevin Young era, of the

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NIL era for BUYU. Way more important than when Mark

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Pope laughed and.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Young came.

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Speaker 7: Because Kevin Young was able to retain a lot of

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a lot of players. Right, you don't have a face

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of the program who becomes the face of your program.

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You don't have you know, the benefit of your best

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players returning, right. I mean even Robert Wright said, if

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I'm playing college again next year, I'll be playing for BUYU. Well,

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there is a world that he leaves right and and

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you know, again were all going to take his word

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at face value. But he did have an offer sheet

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signed with Baylor and he chose Buyu. And so again

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I'm just stating facts. I'm not creating controversy. This is

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exactly what happened. There's a lot of things up in

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the air, and and Justin Young, right, the wizard of

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the recruiting world has his work cut out for him.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: JT.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Tabnari. Love your comments, Love your commentary. Appreciate you

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hopping on for a keeping up with the Cougar segment,

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and God bless you.

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Speaker 1: Man. Travel home safe. You're out working right now. We

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need you.

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Speaker 4: We need you back back home asap. You coming back

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this weekend. When do you When do you come back

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to Utah?

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Speaker 7: Coming back? Coming back tomorrow? Man, I'll be I'll be

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back home tomorrow, being I've been.

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Speaker 3: Going for a while. Not fun watching the BUYU game on. Uh,

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you know, next to next to some great people.

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Speaker 7: But you know, definitely would wish that I could have

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been at home with my family and uh, you know,

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but it is what it is, and it's I get it.

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Like it's a it's it's a it's a sensitive subject

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for BUYU fans, and uh, you know, but God blessed

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that there was a pro day to day, you know,

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to kind of take everybody's mind off of it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it.

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we'll be back. Don't go anywhere. We're gonna welcome in.

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Jared Bled's former BOE wide receiver talks from Camp Klawnie

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little college football. We've talked enough, hoop, haven't we? Now

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times talked some college football.

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Speaker 5: Said, that's why I said first thing when when we met,

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or when we when we talked this morning, right, we're

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talk