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Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: Oh man? That is a loaded question, my friend?
Speaker 1: So yeah, how are you? How are you handling the loss?
The one and done?
Speaker 4: You said it on errors You're like, look, I just
want to get out of the first round. You were
much more pragmatic. B what you fames into us media members?
We're like, no, man, sweet sixteen. We're playing better basketball.
We found our identity. We're better defensively, we're rebounding better.
YadA YadA YadA, Dominique Diamande and Hedem Boop and we
got this thing figured out and we did we didn't.
Speaker 1: How are you handling it well?
Speaker 7: I mean, you certainly expected them to play better. I
think first and foremost, and I think what Kevin Young
said at the end of the game at.
Speaker 3: The press conference is true. Yesterday was a microcosm of
how the whole season was.
Speaker 7: Let's not keete ourselves here, right you know? I saw
that you were tweeted a lot of other threat that
Elijah Bryant commented.
Speaker 8: And I will say this Elijah's break down of the
reason why DYU lost this spot on almost four twenty
two from the three point line, gave up fourteen rebounds.
Speaker 3: That's a big game, right there.
Speaker 8: Ben, Here's the only thing.
Speaker 3: I will How can I put this thing because.
Speaker 8: I don't want to say I want to beef with Elijah.
I want to not to disagree with Elijah, but like,
maybe you can help me with the right word here, But.
Speaker 7: Like if that was a an exception, and oh my gosh,
that's the only time that BYU lost the game because
of a lack of daisical effort on the.
Speaker 3: Glass and because of poor shooting.
Speaker 7: If that was a one time thing, I think that
we could talk ourselves into you know what, it was
just one bad game.
Speaker 3: But then you and I have been.
Speaker 7: Doing this for the entire year for about two or
three seasons now, and let's just look at the way
that this season was. How many times this year have
did DYU lose a game because of a lack of
daisical effort on defense and offensive rebounds? And you know
it was just a piss poor performance on shooting the ball.
Is that a one time thing or you know that
pretty much was every single game. And so that's the
thing that bothers me a nerd sing more than anything.
Speaker 3: Is, Look, this is not a one time thing. This
is not just oh, by you.
Speaker 7: Lost because of these things and it was just a.
Speaker 3: One time situation. No, you wasn't.
Speaker 7: That has happened all year. It even happened on wins.
Speaker 4: And so let's be honest at JT. Elijah has not
been watching this team all season long.
Speaker 7: And that's why I'm thinking, like I don't know, and
right now, obviously. That's why I'm saying, like I don't
want to like contradictum a part because his his his
analysis is spot on.
Speaker 3: The only problem is.
Speaker 7: Been like that has been the whole thing the whole year.
And so how am I taking this? I you know,
like as a former player, I'm pretty bothered because, you know,
like Robbie McCombs said, this is the most disappointing season
in YU basketball history because with all of the operation
costs for basketball, you are pretty close to twenty million
between the coaches salary and all of the infrastructure that
is needed. Plus on top of all the nil you
are pretty close to twenty million.
Speaker 3: Let's call us beat a spade. That's number one.
Speaker 7: Number two, you have the number one player in the country,
number one draft pick. You have all of that going on,
and so you know, like when you when Eliza says,
if you're asking a role player to step up, I'm
gonna be humanly disagree because what is the opportunity?
Speaker 3: How much exposure are these guys?
Speaker 1: They had six weeks, They've had six weeks. They've had
six weeks.
Speaker 7: And you're telling me that if you are a shooter
like Costage or Mahi Loo or Dominique, and you know
they're Richie is down. Why are you not camping inside
the annex shooting a thousand shots every day? Because this
because this is the opportunity of a lifetime that I
don't I don't understand that. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
Speaker 7: And so because here's the thing, for whatever you say,
I did this for a living, probably very few people
in YU basketball history. Trevin new is probably the only one.
I would say, you know, maybe Chase Fisher. But like
as it comes to catch and shoots in BYU basketball history,
there's not a whole lot of folks that I did
what I did.
Speaker 3: And so if that's.
Speaker 7: All your role is to be a catch and shoe
guy into play hard on defense, my gosh, how are
you not doing that? And so as you see this
effort and this lack of you know, I'm gonna give
myself an opportunity. I'm gonna put myself an opportunity to
be better and to have opportunity of a lifetime for me,
it's difficult for me to process the loss from yesterday.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, I don't necessarily agree that it's the most disappointing
season in bau basketball history. I do give the grace
right that I think is merited for the season ending
injuries of Dawson, Nate Pickens, and of course the Todd
King Richie Saunders. So like a one and done. Although
extremely disappointing, this is one of the most This is
one of the most disappointing seasons because of the expectation,
because of the resource application for the infrastructure, the organizational design,
because your athletic director is a basketball guy, like this
is his baby, the basketball program and everything that is
his That is his baby, Okay, so everything like with
that being in you know, in mind, it is one
of the most disappointing seasons in BUE basketball systm. But
the most disappointing season is the seasons in which like
apathy sets in for BYU fans when they don't show
it to the Marriott Center. And that was like more
so the transition from I think Roger Reid to to
the Steve Cleveland eric coach Ingle was.
Speaker 1: There as the interim coach.
Speaker 4: That was probably the most disappointing, I think because no
one was showing up to the Marriott Center at that
time and that was like, I mean, when no one's
shown up to Merritt Center and we're looking like the
Huntsman Center. That to me is the most disappointing thing
because the fan base and the donor base and everyone
has given up on the team.
Speaker 1: We never had that this year.
Speaker 7: Well and again, right, I mean, I just you know,
that's why I said, you know when I was and
I was, I was exchanging when I was doing something
for YU Sports Nation.
Speaker 3: How do you describe this season? Am I? In this season?
Speaker 7: I would describe as would have, could have, should have? Right,
you know, well, Dallan Hall is a would have could
have shoot of situation. I would even say, you know,
Tanner Toulson instead of Alexey Coastache is a would have
could have shoot a situation.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, like would have, could have,
should have? You hindsight?
Speaker 7: You know, it's twenty twenty, you know, but like there
is something to be said about the culture of the program.
And that's why I also say about, you know, hindsight,
because you know, if we knew that Richie was going
to get hurt, you know, we would definitely may have
made some different adjustments.
Speaker 3: But you don't know these things. But maybe that's why.
Speaker 7: It's important to have more than just a one culture
guy on the program, you know what I mean. And
and at the end of the day, Ben, we are
all going to sound very smart when you look at
you know, when you look you know, at the end
from the beginning.
Speaker 3: Where we see all of that, right, I just think that.
Speaker 7: First things first, you have the perfect excuse and I
don't want to say excuse of the negative. We have
the perfect way to rationalize it why this season was
so bad, and that's because of injuries, bar none, point
blank simple. You lost your face of the program two
thirds through the year, you lost your you know for
a third of the season, you didn't have Richie.
Speaker 3: And then you look, you lost.
Speaker 7: Your six menut of the year for eighty percent of
the season. You lost your backup point guard for the
entire season boom. But But the thing that that it
just irks me is when you look at the way
that the performance was, I just didn't see energy from
you know, from from Abdullah Amad, you know, like I
just he was playing in the G League, so not
like you was playing you know, at junior college in
the middle of North Dakota on the on the you know,
the border with Canada like he was playing in the
G League, was against guys that were getting call ups
to go to the NBA. That's number one, right, Dominique Diamonde.
Why didn't he see the floor more?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: Because the way he played in a couple of games
at the Big Twelve tournament, he looked really good. But obviously,
again this is not a knock on Kevin Young and
the staff because those guys have credit shows that can
travel the globe. But what was happening in practice was
he really not performing as well? And so that goes
on him. Why didn't he step up right coastage?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 7: Why was he so inconsistent from three? Well, but he
was just a freshman. I don't care that he was
just a freshman. I came in as a freshman and
I shot everything that came my way, and everybody told
us that he was going to be a shooter. But
to me, the most glaring one of them all was
Tyler Maruss. I'm Tyler Maruss literally came to BUYU as
the undisputed, you know know, anointed sniper right the the
the the Travin now the Jack Gohler whatever his name
is from Oakland, that that you know, knockout Kentucky before Kevin,
before Kevin Young got here, when Mark Polpe was the coach,
and I I mean he shot thirty percent.
Speaker 3: From three for the season, like you know what I mean?
And so how did that happen?
Speaker 7: And so there are a lot of question marks.
Speaker 3: You know, why was Keva being so up and down? Right?
Speaker 7: I felt like keV I actually had a better a
better year lest year than he did this year. And
you know, I think it's obviously you have some bright points.
You know, we're going to see AJ's jersey be retired
at BUYU in about fifteen years, you know from now,
and that's going to be fantastic. AJ is one of
one and why year could that be?
Speaker 3: Well? When is by You going to.
Speaker 7: Get another Aj? When will that be another a J?
I mean AJ is being talked about like as the
next you know. I mean he was breaking Kevin Durant
and Trade Young's record, and I mean, you know, talk
at a level that is lebron esque coming out of
high school.
Speaker 3: If you get what I'm saying, right, I.
Speaker 7: Mean, when are we gonna when is by You going
to get an opportunity to have that type of guy
on the on the roster again, and so you know,
you may not agree with it, but when you start
putting all these things together and the potential that this
season had, you know, is it the most disappointing season ever?
I don't know, but it's pretty darn disappointing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you could go back and do it again, right,
because you bring up some names, if you could go
back and do it again, knowing what you know now,
would you rather have would you trade Robert the Third
for Dollen Hall? Would you trade a Lexikostic for Tanner Tilson?
Would you trade Mihailo Boskovic for Jake Wallen? All three
of those you got to take all three? Would you
do it all over again that way?
Speaker 7: So that's difficult because I got to know Dallan really well.
I don't know if I would have taken Dallen over
Robert right the third, mainly because Dallan wanted to be
a starter, and I get it, I totally get it right.
Speaker 4: That's aj ended up becoming a point for Dollan would
still be your point guard, but you could also hand
that off to aj as as your kind of your
backup point guard.
Speaker 1: He ended up being that anyway.
Speaker 7: And so I'm gonna say this, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna comment on on.
Speaker 3: The rubber Right situation because I just I just don't.
Speaker 7: Know, not because I don't have an opinion, but well,
I don't have an opinion because I don't know. That's
what I'm saying. I I that's what I'm gonna say.
I'm not gonna comment on the right situation.
Speaker 3: Because I can see it both ways. I can see.
Speaker 7: Why you would keep Rubbert, why we keep Dallan, and
why we keep rubber Right. And so I'm not gonna
comment on it because I don't have I don't have
a formed opinion. I have to rationalize and think about
that one.
Speaker 3: But coast it.
Speaker 7: But Kenner Twson over coasted and Jaqui lean over Mahilo
on a.
Speaker 3: Heartbeat, my friend, like you know.
Speaker 7: And so the Dallon one is a difficult one because
Robert Wright was, I mean, he them near had you know,
forty points a couple of games like he was, he was,
you know what I'm saying. And that's a difficult conversation
because there were massive pros.
Speaker 3: And cons on both choices.
Speaker 7: But the Tanner, Toulson and Jake Quileen come on, Tenner
Towlson was a massive importantly, Key wrote not even just
a rotation.
Speaker 3: Player, but one of the you know, one of the
main guys.
Speaker 7: That finished games for a CCU team that has had
it to the second round, a TCU team that came
to Pro Bowl and gave BUYU a hard fit, right
and Jake Qui Leen. I was always a big fan
of ja Qui Leen. I was extremely disappointed when Jake
Qui Leen went to went to Utah, you know, let
alone when he went to Clemson, and so massive respect
and shout out to Jake's mom, who I got to know.
I'm a massive fan of j Qui Leen and I
would say this. People are gonna call me crazy. I
would take, you know, based on the way the roster
is going to be, you know it's going to be
developed next year, I will take Jake Kui Lean before
I take Colin Chandler. Not because of I think Jake
is better than Colin, but you think about the fit
that you need for the team.
Speaker 3: You know, like you can find for.
Speaker 7: For the amount of nil that you're going to have
to pay for Colin, you can find, you know, someone
that may be a little bit more of a scorer
than calling this. But Jake kwah Linn, man, you know,
he has a he has a prototypical basketball body, you know,
and and you know, but then the question is what
do you do with Brody Kyleslowski. We haven't seen Brody
Kyleslowski yet, right, is he going to be able to
stay healthy? How is he going to perform next year
as a as a you know, uh uh uh freshman
red shirt and a medical red shirt freshman. I mean,
you know, the last time that Brody Kolsowski played basketball
it was going to be three years ago. And so
you know, there are a lot of questions to answer,
and I will say this, man, this is the most
important off season of the Kevin Young era, of the
NIL era for BUYU. Way more important than when Mark
Pope laughed and.
Speaker 3: Kevin Young came.
Speaker 7: Because Kevin Young was able to retain a lot of
a lot of players. Right, you don't have a face
of the program who becomes the face of your program.
You don't have you know, the benefit of your best
players returning, right. I mean even Robert Wright said, if
I'm playing college again next year, I'll be playing for BUYU. Well,
there is a world that he leaves right and and
you know, again were all going to take his word
at face value. But he did have an offer sheet
signed with Baylor and he chose Buyu. And so again
I'm just stating facts. I'm not creating controversy. This is
exactly what happened. There's a lot of things up in
the air, and and Justin Young, right, the wizard of
the recruiting world has his work cut out for him.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 1: JT.
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hopping on for a keeping up with the Cougar segment,
and God bless you.
Speaker 1: Man. Travel home safe. You're out working right now. We
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Speaker 4: We need you back back home asap. You coming back
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to Utah?
Speaker 7: Coming back? Coming back tomorrow? Man, I'll be I'll be
back home tomorrow, being I've been.
Speaker 3: Going for a while. Not fun watching the BUYU game on. Uh,
you know, next to next to some great people.
Speaker 7: But you know, definitely would wish that I could have
been at home with my family and uh, you know,
but it is what it is, and it's I get it.
Like it's a it's it's a it's a sensitive subject
for BUYU fans, and uh, you know, but God blessed
that there was a pro day to day, you know,
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But it's yeah, it's lots lots happening to BYU world
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Speaker 1: Doubt about it.
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