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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, Welcome to a new episode of the Poker

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<v Speaker 1>Go Podcast. My name is Donni Peters and I'm flying

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<v Speaker 1>solo today to bring you a conversation that I recently

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<v Speaker 1>had with Jeremy Osmas. Jeremy, of course needs little introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been a guest on this podcast before, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>always good to chat with him and to catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>I especially wanted to do so coming off of the

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<v Speaker 1>big summer that Jeremy had with twenty two dobasipy cashes,

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<v Speaker 1>seven final tables and more than three point four million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on. Some of the topics that we hit on were,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, his World Series of Poker. We hit on

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<v Speaker 1>selling tournament action with Jeremy often does, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>some action now up on poker steak dot com for

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<v Speaker 1>the Super High Roller Series and Super High Roller Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>that is taking place in Cyprus. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of Jeremy, I would go check that out

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<v Speaker 1>at poker steak dot com. We also hit on the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame and then we talked about the Olympian

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<v Speaker 1>in Jeremy's family. Hope you guys enjoy here's the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Welcome to the show. Jeremy Osmas. As many

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners know, this isn't the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have spoken, but it's always it's always

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<v Speaker 1>good to catch up see how things are going. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for joining, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, of course, glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been a month, I think pretty much exactly

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<v Speaker 1>since the Divisip has ended. That's the biggest, most jam packed,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly grueling time of the year for a tournament player.

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<v Speaker 1>What has life been like since the Divissip? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>been playing poker at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I played an online session on a Sunday last Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe that is the only poker I've played since.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is it the fourteenth or something? And I

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<v Speaker 2>finished up around the twenty second. I took a little

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<v Speaker 2>trip to Colorado, been doing fair amount of coaching and

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of preparing for this upcoming trip of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's to Cyprus, getting back into the workouts and the

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<v Speaker 2>routine at home, and just spend time with the family.

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<v Speaker 2>So not a lot of poker. Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that coaching that you mentioned? Is that you coaching

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<v Speaker 1>others or others coaching you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Me coaching others. Yeah, I'm doing more and more

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<v Speaker 2>of that these days, Yeah, demands kind of picked up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've kind of started to enjoy it and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of from my you know, gotten a good routine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find it helps your poker game, your poker mind?

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<v Speaker 2>It does. I mean, essentially, you're you're helping someone. You

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<v Speaker 2>get to see them grow. That's cool. You you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my rate is pretty good money, so that's cool. And

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<v Speaker 2>also I'm just looking at sins or talking about poker

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<v Speaker 2>and even ideas I have and things like that and

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of reinforcing them over and over. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the level of student you have, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a high level sent especially, you're kind of just like

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<v Speaker 2>studying while you help them too. So it's pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>efficient use of time basically.

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<v Speaker 1>So coming off the WSP, I think you had twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two cashes, seven final tables, which tied the record. You

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<v Speaker 1>cash for more than I think it was three point

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<v Speaker 1>four million dollars. You were in contention for Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year. Was a pretty hotly contested battle, most notably

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<v Speaker 1>against Scott sever who ultimately went on to win it,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was others, you know, in the race pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't come away from the summer with a bracelet,

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<v Speaker 1>though you didn't get Player of the Year. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>how does Jeremy Osmas rate his summer?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean really, I look at it like the

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<v Speaker 2>dollars perspective. It's not all about winning the bracelets. And

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<v Speaker 2>fortunately for me, I've been ran really well in the

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<v Speaker 2>last few years and I've won, you know, five in

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<v Speaker 2>the last prior three years to this year, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of okay with my bracelet count these days. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you always want to win one, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to win Player of the Year. It is

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<v Speaker 2>hard to do without a win. It really is. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the formula, it's just very top heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>You almost just have to have a win to be

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<v Speaker 2>competing in there. Without a win even was pretty cool,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty crazy. I think they improved the formula quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit by making it you know, your top ten results

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<v Speaker 2>only because I don't feel like it should be about

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<v Speaker 2>who's ever going to play, you know, multiple tables at

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<v Speaker 2>once at the World Series and count all the online events.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the online bracelets shouldn't even count personally,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think they've made it. They took a step

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<v Speaker 2>in the right direction kind of making that that better,

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<v Speaker 2>and I kind of learn about some new techniques if

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<v Speaker 2>you're really trying to play the year and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them, I'm not really down there because you just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of burn a lot of money. So certain people

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<v Speaker 2>so indeed want most specifically, he goes really out of

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<v Speaker 2>his way to do crazy things like not play the

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<v Speaker 2>main event or something like that. You know, if he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the running for Player the Year, because it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>bad for your EV of winning Player the Year, so

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you're kind of focus. You give up

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<v Speaker 2>dollary V in return for EV and winning Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year basically. So it's fun. It was great to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the race this year. I'm not willing to

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<v Speaker 2>go to all the extremes that would make me the

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<v Speaker 2>most likely to win it in the future, but anytime

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<v Speaker 2>I start off pot at the World Series more than

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<v Speaker 2>the first few weeks, I'll just stay at the Worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this year, I didn't go. It's hard to lead ever,

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<v Speaker 2>so I would guess that thing, you know, parison horseshoe

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<v Speaker 2>the entire seme. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I wanted to hit on like specifically

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, I watched I believe it was your

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<v Speaker 1>WSP preparation video over on Weren't Once and you you

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<v Speaker 1>talked in that there was a line where you said,

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<v Speaker 1>my main focus is to make money. Maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>win Player of the Year and that'd be cool, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's really just about maximizing profits.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I bring that up because you also mentioned, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of jumping from from venue to venue, playing

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you might find value or you know, chase dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing. Like, at what point this

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<v Speaker 1>summer do you say, Okay, I have a shot at

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year, I'm doing very well at the

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<v Speaker 1>w SP. I'm just gonna stay here and like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of really battle for this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the first two or three weeks there

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<v Speaker 2>weren't a lot of things, Like what really pulls me

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<v Speaker 2>away from the WSP is the big events at the

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<v Speaker 2>Win for example, I'm not running around and playing like

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<v Speaker 2>a feteen hundred at the Venetian or the wind But

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<v Speaker 2>it's more like some big buy in like they had

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<v Speaker 2>some twenty five k's, some that huge WPT things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to the Aria has a big thirty five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>which I did play, so a lot of those didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take place in the first two or three weeks I

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<v Speaker 2>think of those summer, and then I kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>my you know, it did take Maybe my first little

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<v Speaker 2>run wasn't until about two and a half three week mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe two weeks I forget. But anyways, I

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<v Speaker 2>had that, so it's a good start. But then immediately

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<v Speaker 2>I just was fteing every tournament I played almost you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just had like urm after tournament where I just

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<v Speaker 2>was going deep and deep and deep. So and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right up there in the leaderboard, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, you know, the ARIA had like some

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<v Speaker 2>ten k's no limit and some ten K plows, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're not like rate value or anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the price point. I do like to

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<v Speaker 2>play TGT events, so I do sneak over there sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>But this year I was like, Okay, I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>need to really like play all the ten K mix,

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<v Speaker 2>which sometimes I play. Sometimes I don't even some small mix,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like generally I don't play the fifty mix.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of a big time commitment and there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many big no limit and PLO tournaments. But at

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<v Speaker 2>a certain point, I will kind of start to play

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<v Speaker 2>those if I'm like really up there, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>win one, that does a lot to help your chances.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned there, you know, the how you started running

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<v Speaker 1>kind of really hot, you know, making all these different

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<v Speaker 1>final tables. Obviously, tournament poker is very streaky on both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can go long period of time without

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<v Speaker 1>cashing anything or making a final table or winning. On

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, you know, people can get really hot,

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<v Speaker 1>really fast and really start to rack up the results.

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<v Speaker 1>When you are doing very well and you are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making deep runs making final tables like you were, what

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<v Speaker 1>does that do for your confidence level? And how do

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<v Speaker 1>you like kind of keep that confidence in check because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, they know call it up till

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they kind of get ahead of themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>that can throw them off their game, even if they

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<v Speaker 1>are running pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot, right. I think, you know, my level of experience

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in my career helps me with that

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<v Speaker 2>issue a lot, especially now I only play tournaments. The

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<v Speaker 2>ups are bigger and the downs are bigger, so I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been pretty even keeled with it, but being a

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<v Speaker 2>tournament full time turnament really tests to you know, resolve,

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<v Speaker 2>because especially playing how Irons, they'll just go on six figure,

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<v Speaker 2>seven figure down swings kind of semi regularly. The trick is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to keep your game as as solid as

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<v Speaker 2>you can keep it in those times. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that and you don't want to change

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<v Speaker 2>your play like, oh, maybe I'm not doing this and

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<v Speaker 2>that correctly, or you know, things like that. And for me,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've done it so long, I like to zoom out.

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<v Speaker 2>I can look at a graph I have or something

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<v Speaker 2>of my poker career the last five years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can just see the success that it's had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that just instilled, you know, through all those periods

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<v Speaker 2>of ups and downs, I'm pretty solid playing the same

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<v Speaker 2>and when I can kind of look at a long

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<v Speaker 2>term result like that and kind of just use it

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<v Speaker 2>as a little bit of stability and support and some

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<v Speaker 2>positivity to say, you know, it will turn around if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a big down swing, or yeah, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>winning a lot, that doesn't give you an excuses to

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<v Speaker 2>start playing bad. So I think I have that part

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<v Speaker 2>down pretty good. And I think a lot of it

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<v Speaker 2>apps to do with just long term being a long

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<v Speaker 2>term winner in appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>You play second in the one hundred k high Roller.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was right around one point nine million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>But you did it playing in arguably the most electric

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<v Speaker 1>final table atmosphere of the entire DIVISIPY. I would almost

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<v Speaker 1>equate it to you were the away team going to

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<v Speaker 1>play a playoff game in the home team's arena with

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<v Speaker 1>all the fans and supporters that big unique Chris Unican

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<v Speaker 1>had on his side. Like what was that experience like?

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<v Speaker 1>And have you ever experienced anything like that in poker?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was an amazing final table, like the runouts,

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<v Speaker 2>the people there, the rail was insane. Yeah you said it, well,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was kind of the out of town team,

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<v Speaker 2>but that I never have a big rail, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm used to that. This rail was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they weren't out of out of line or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were very very loud. Had a pretty loud

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<v Speaker 2>one the year before at the World Series two some

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<v Speaker 2>Europe who it was, but this one was that times

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<v Speaker 2>five or ten. So yeah, it was fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Pony. It was all his people and like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, they weren't getting out of line or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So it does hurt a little more I guess whenever

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<v Speaker 2>this erupts, you know, things like that. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a very memorable final table. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did final table main in twenty twelve, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>probably that. You know, the stage can't really get me

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<v Speaker 2>bigger incther than that, and I still remember that very well,

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<v Speaker 2>and even just leading up to the final table, the

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<v Speaker 2>experience like nothing else, making that final nine of the

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<v Speaker 2>main event. So I've kind of you know, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>at this point a lot of big finl tables, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just always ready, you know, to play. The pressure

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get to me much. It's kind of hot up there,

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<v Speaker 2>as one of my biggest complaints. I'm kind of hot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I you know, performed well and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned, you know, how you don't have normally have

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<v Speaker 1>big final table rails yourself. I mean, how come and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just you? You see it a lot in like

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<v Speaker 1>the high Rollers scene specifically. I mean you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>WSP Main Event final table You're run back in twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of expected, you know, going into that

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<v Speaker 1>final table. You know, there's going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of supporters there for everyone else. But I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit weird maybe for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better word, that like one hundred K high Roller,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, is supposedly the best players in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>or if not, they're very popular players and people should

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<v Speaker 1>be wanting to support them, Yet there's not often big

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<v Speaker 1>rails other than like you know, might what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, Heunikin. But I mean, why is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could be due to the fact that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of the guys at the highest level,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not in this stage of their life where they

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<v Speaker 2>maybe party a lot or go out a lot. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of my friends and just a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that poko they're they're having families now, so they're in

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<v Speaker 2>a more kind of docile stage in their life. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, where so a lot of their friends aren't

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<v Speaker 2>these rowdy friends that are drinking all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. Also a lot of their friends and

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<v Speaker 2>in my case also are poker players and they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>poker all summer. Also, I don't know, maybe a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that regularly succeed at the highest limits

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<v Speaker 2>are are just a little more. I don't know, quiet

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. I think that's the thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I look at the people you know at poker Go,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a lot of like wild people. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they've got their lifestyled in and optimized, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not they're not loud voice for celebrating and celebracious people celebrations.

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<v Speaker 2>That word out.

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<v Speaker 1>He just made it up in his mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I don't know. I think all those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons combined just kind of add up to something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, because because it's true. You know, if I'm around,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go support a friend of mine at a final table,

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<v Speaker 2>but generally I'm playing or something like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's or I have a tournament the next day and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not going to go on the rail

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<v Speaker 2>and drink a bunch of beers. You know. That was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a perfect storm. Hoooney. He's got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of friends. He has huge parties at his house, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the Fourth of July. He's always talking about and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. And uh, and I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of our guys, you know, I like the guys, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's cool to see. But yeah, I've just never really

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<v Speaker 2>had that outside of like, you know, the main event

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. My wife came down a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times this summer for me last year with my brother

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<v Speaker 2>in law, and some friends will drop by, like Eric

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<v Speaker 2>bald One and things like that, but he's on break

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<v Speaker 2>of a tournament something, you know, to to that effect,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's just kind of different.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, just a flashback quickly now to twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>ago WSP Main Event final table. You end up cashing

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit more than two million dollars. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you imagine your career would look like afterwards and

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<v Speaker 1>how does it compare to what it actually became if

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<v Speaker 1>you can like somehow go back any time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good question. I didn't really know. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>there weren't you know, there wasn't a big high stake

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<v Speaker 2>scene back then. So it was without a doubt life

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<v Speaker 2>changing money for me at the time. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>had two young children at that time, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>month old and two and almost two year olds, So

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of realized is that that just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>helped this out with things like you know, just the

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<v Speaker 2>expenses of a young family and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was more rolled to play bigger events

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff if I need be. But you know how

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<v Speaker 2>many hundred k's were there back then, Like there were questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe there was, like, yeah, the World Series had

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<v Speaker 2>one in like two thousand and thirteen, fourteen fifteen. I

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<v Speaker 2>played a few of those hundred k's that they would

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<v Speaker 2>have off and on, but they really it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a common thing, and so I guess I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>would just kind of keep playing my Bologgio game. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of think, I I don't think I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would affect a lot as far as like what I

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<v Speaker 2>would be playing, because I was playing at ten twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and ten twenty forty at Bologgio. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest game every day. You know. One thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it could me to me playing more Mix and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe playing them a big Mix game eventually. And I

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<v Speaker 2>did play more Mix, not the big big one, but

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<v Speaker 2>lower Mix played some of that. So that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put me on that trajectory a little more. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of that, not a lot. I was never a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was dying to take on the toughest players

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<v Speaker 2>and the biggest stakes. And you know, someone like Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Koon's a guy who that's that's what he wants, and

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to play the best and beat the best,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a very driven focus and he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>co be the highest levels of things. I've never really

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<v Speaker 2>been like that. I just want to kind of make

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<v Speaker 2>a living, enjoy poker, and I'm always improving and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And he's rubbed off on me a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit to kind of play higher stakes, to push myself

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<v Speaker 2>a little more, which is he's a really good influence.

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<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, back then, it's just pokers have a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it has changed a lot since then.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned how you, you know, predominantly play tournaments these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you aware that that that fifth place run in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve is your only main event cash?

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<v Speaker 2>I am aware.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my next question, why haven't you been able to

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<v Speaker 1>cash anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny I complain about people all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>they tell me to shut up. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is, Like I say, I say, I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up out of him in the name. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>patch it one time out of probably eighteen nineteen times

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<v Speaker 2>now since two thousand and six, maybe one time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's arguably the easiest tournaments of cash. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wild. But Scott Seaver has cashed zero or one.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget I thought it was zero, but maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he told me he did cash it one time

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<v Speaker 2>now and he's played it probably I would say more

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<v Speaker 2>than me. He's a great player, So you know, who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just can't. I just can't cash.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just a weird varian thing in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, I mean you should play bigger where

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<v Speaker 1>they respect your raises.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, that's yeah, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you do you think you approach it

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<v Speaker 1>any differently than other tournaments? You know, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a ten k buying yes, but the main event

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<v Speaker 1>kind of doesn't really play like your normal ten k

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<v Speaker 1>that you see so often. It plays like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably closer to a fifteen hundred in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on your table draw.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So yeah, I approach it differently than I would

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<v Speaker 2>I roll an aria. You know, you have more time,

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<v Speaker 2>you have more chips. Yeah, it's a freeze out, so

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<v Speaker 2>all those things come into play. And I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of experience in large field like soft tournaments and

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<v Speaker 2>have been successful, you know, even the summer. Just like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my runs, or a few of them

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, one was a shootout of fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>shootout and other one of the twenty five hundred No Limit,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of my final tables. So so yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 2>adjust to the different types of players that you run across,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the weaker players is a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, how much time these days do you work

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<v Speaker 1>on your game off the felt not playing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I mentioned the coaching that I do, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm able to do that because I've worked on my

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<v Speaker 2>game a lot. You know, I feel pretty sharp overall,

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<v Speaker 2>make less mistakes all the time than if I look back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know for the previous few years or months, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just my what I what I strive to do

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<v Speaker 2>is just always improved. So I still I still am

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<v Speaker 2>working on There's always more to learn and more depth

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<v Speaker 2>to go into in different areas and and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's new software out there that's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>and always improving. So yeah, I still definitely work on things.

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<v Speaker 1>What's an area of your game that you feel needs

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<v Speaker 1>the most work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sound like GTO. It's it's so hard to

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<v Speaker 2>just crush the gto though and just hit every spot

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<v Speaker 2>like impossible, So try to minimize the mistakes when you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing a good player, and then I think I do

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<v Speaker 2>a good job of kind of throwing that out the

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<v Speaker 2>window when I'm facing different types of opponents. I think

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<v Speaker 2>ICM Final tables getting close to the money that was

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<v Speaker 2>something that years ago I didn't think about much or

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<v Speaker 2>care about because I was a cash game player. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of one of my bigger hurdles is

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<v Speaker 2>just not torching big EV spots at final tables that

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<v Speaker 2>I used to do probably, And also that's just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a you know, I feel like the ICM sims

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<v Speaker 2>aren't perfect, and I feel like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>room for debate right now about maybe what is the

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<v Speaker 2>actual right place because what they can do is somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>limited and doesn't take everything into account obviously, which solvers

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<v Speaker 2>done at all, but at you know, definitely don't because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of variables going on in the final table.

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<v Speaker 2>So just trying to think about things like that, I

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<v Speaker 2>think is a big deal, especially playing more you know,

421
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<v Speaker 2>mainly high rollers like I play table so it's a

422
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<v Speaker 2>pretty big deal to get that stuff down.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you obviously play a lot of high rollers, your

424
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<v Speaker 1>extremely experienced. You have the results to back it up.

425
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<v Speaker 1>But are there are there any players out there? When

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you sit down at the table, you see

427
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<v Speaker 1>them across from you, and you kind of think to yourself, Okay,

428
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<v Speaker 1>I really need to bring my a game. Or maybe

429
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<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit of a lack of confidence

430
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<v Speaker 1>that might seep into your brain thinking that, Okay, this

431
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<v Speaker 1>guy is clearly better than me. I need to like

432
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<v Speaker 1>really be on it today. Does that does that ever

433
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<v Speaker 1>cross your mind these days?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I mean my good friend Jason, I know how

435
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<v Speaker 2>good he is. I study with him, We talked poker

436
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<v Speaker 2>a lot. He's just unreal good at every spot. He's

437
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<v Speaker 2>a guy I never want to see at my table.

438
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<v Speaker 2>He's I just think he's, without a doubt, one of

439
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<v Speaker 2>one of the top guys. And I think you know

440
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<v Speaker 2>someone like Childwick keep going throw in there. Those are

441
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<v Speaker 2>all guys, but you don't you know, they're just not

442
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<v Speaker 2>giving up much. They're super studied, they've been playing forever,

443
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<v Speaker 2>very experienced. Live the hotels. You know, they can pick

444
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<v Speaker 2>up tells, understand ic M.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're likely to run into some of them when

446
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<v Speaker 1>you head over to Europe. You're going to go play

447
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<v Speaker 1>Super high Roll or Series, Super high Roll or Bowl.

448
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<v Speaker 1>It's Super high Roller bol going to be the biggest

449
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<v Speaker 1>buying you've ever played.

450
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<v Speaker 2>It will be. Yeah, So I played the two fifty

451
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<v Speaker 2>the last two years at the World Series, and then

452
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<v Speaker 2>this one is three hundreds, so it.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Will be Are you more nervous or more excited about

454
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<v Speaker 1>playing a buy on that big.

455
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and neither one has really has crossed

456
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<v Speaker 2>my mind that much. I'm just kind of preparing. I'm

457
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<v Speaker 2>sat in the chair for many years and just think

458
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<v Speaker 2>I'll make some good decisions. Hopefully no torches. And yeah,

459
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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. I've never been to Cyprus. I'm more excited

460
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<v Speaker 2>just for the actual overall trip. You know, it's several tournaments,

461
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<v Speaker 2>pgt runs, great, great tournaments. Never been to Cyprus for

462
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<v Speaker 2>just beautiful There's some PLO tournaments, so I'm just excited

463
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<v Speaker 2>to make the trip. I haven't been out of the

464
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<v Speaker 2>country outside of the Homers. Haven't been. I went to

465
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<v Speaker 2>Madrid Triten one two thousand and two, so it's been

466
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. So looking forward to it.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think we'll see you make more trips like this?

468
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<v Speaker 1>I would say most specifically for Triton stuff. You know,

469
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<v Speaker 1>they have the biggest stuff around the world every time

470
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<v Speaker 1>every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I you know, I keep saying, like, oh, the

472
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<v Speaker 2>next and I'll go to the next tright, And I've

473
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<v Speaker 2>been saying that for like a year. There's often something

474
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<v Speaker 2>competing in the States in the stakes are much lower,

475
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<v Speaker 2>but it's just close. I don't have to be gone

476
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<v Speaker 2>for two to three weeks. It's just easier. The tournament's softer.

477
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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of the big buyings I'm selling,

478
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<v Speaker 2>you know, some action, so I don't have to deal

479
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<v Speaker 2>with that. And a lot of times it's just sometimes

480
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<v Speaker 2>it's just right here in Vegas at poker go at Arias.

481
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<v Speaker 2>So it's hard. If it's hard when there's a series

482
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<v Speaker 2>at aria of ten tournaments to go halfway around the

483
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<v Speaker 2>world and get jet lagged, and why for twenty twenty

484
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<v Speaker 2>twenty five hours? Hey that all those expensive whenever I

485
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<v Speaker 2>could just sleep in my own bed right here. So

486
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<v Speaker 2>it depends. I have been saying, especially the ones in

487
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<v Speaker 2>Asia I'm going to go to. Where did they go?

488
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<v Speaker 2>There was a couple of really Vietnam one was amazing,

489
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<v Speaker 2>which they might not be doing back there. But then

490
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<v Speaker 2>the just the Asian stop ser the amazing when I

491
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<v Speaker 2>hear so, and I've never been to Asia.

492
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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned, uh, selling Action. You have Action listed on

493
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<v Speaker 1>poker steak dot com for this series. The super higher

494
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<v Speaker 1>level is included in there. So just for the listeners

495
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<v Speaker 1>out there, if you guys want to grab some of

496
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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy's Action poker steak dot com, it's very easy to use.

497
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<v Speaker 1>High lists some stuff on there all the time. It's

498
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<v Speaker 1>it's great why I sell Action in that medium versus

499
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<v Speaker 1>you know, just maybe your poker group or whatever it

500
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<v Speaker 1>may be.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's funny how many people came up

502
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<v Speaker 2>to me this summer and said that they've been buying

503
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>my Action and I was having a great summer and

504
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>they were so stoked about it. So that was actually

505
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<v Speaker 2>really cool to see. Uh So, Yeah, it just makes it.

506
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<v Speaker 2>It makes it fun. And you know, as I've gotten older,

507
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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten more risk averse for sure. And since I've

508
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<v Speaker 2>switched full time tournament to tournaments, I didn't Yeah, so

509
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<v Speaker 2>I used to just play mainly cash and some tournaments

510
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<v Speaker 2>and the cash money is much more steady, and then

511
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<v Speaker 2>when I go play a tournament, I would just take

512
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<v Speaker 2>all of it and be like whatever, it doesn't matter

513
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<v Speaker 2>because I'm just you know, doing fine cash and I

514
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<v Speaker 2>just hardly have losing months. It seemed like tournaments are

515
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<v Speaker 2>just enormously volatile. It's like it's just you can't even

516
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<v Speaker 2>compare the two. So I really just went on so

517
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<v Speaker 2>many massive down swings, but then massive upswings eventually too.

518
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<v Speaker 2>But I just kind of decided I want to, you know,

519
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<v Speaker 2>take a little less risk in a lot of these things.

520
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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, I just listen more action on there

521
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<v Speaker 2>these days, and like I said, it is kind of fun,

522
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<v Speaker 2>has a social aspect, and I think it's good for poker.

523
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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of people are playing in tournaments

524
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<v Speaker 2>say maybe could or couldn't play before, and a lot

525
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<v Speaker 2>of people are listening their action on there, and it's

526
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<v Speaker 2>just kind of less people kind of get in the action,

527
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like if they're watching sports or betting sports

528
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Right, But in a lot of

529
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<v Speaker 2>the cases that they find a good horse, they're going

530
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<v Speaker 2>to be making. I mean, you know, i'd like to

531
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<v Speaker 2>think in my case, the markup I put on there.

532
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<v Speaker 2>I think they're probably going to be making money over

533
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<v Speaker 2>the long term, so I think it's going to be

534
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<v Speaker 2>a win win for both parties and poker's Sake's amazing.

535
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<v Speaker 2>They don't charge anything on either side, at least at

536
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<v Speaker 2>this point, so it's pretty pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you decide on markup? Does

538
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<v Speaker 1>it take you long to figure it out?

539
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<v Speaker 2>I kind of just decide what I. I give an

540
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<v Speaker 2>estimate of what I think my ROI will be, and

541
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<v Speaker 2>then I, you know, take some portion off that. So

542
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<v Speaker 2>ideally they get some of the ROI and I get

543
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<v Speaker 2>some of the ROI, and then return I give up

544
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<v Speaker 2>some of the ROI, but in return I get lower variants.

545
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<v Speaker 1>You've got six bracelets you want? I mean, I don't

546
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<v Speaker 1>even know how many PGT and high roller events and

547
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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. You've got a circuit ring,

548
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>all this sort of stuff. World Poker Tour title. Is

549
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 1>that like something you want to achieve in your career?

550
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<v Speaker 2>Is that? You know?

551
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think of it like that way? Like I

552
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<v Speaker 1>have all these titles, but I don't have this one

553
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<v Speaker 1>over here, so maybe I want to go after it

554
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit harder.

555
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So WPT and Triton, those would be two great

556
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<v Speaker 2>or an EPT main. The problem is the wpts are

557
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<v Speaker 2>just super hard to win that they only have how

558
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<v Speaker 2>many main events a year because they have a lot

559
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<v Speaker 2>of you know, it's just like the main event, So

560
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<v Speaker 2>you have like ten chances a year, fifteen chances a

561
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<v Speaker 2>year to win any WPT main. I'm much more likely

562
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<v Speaker 2>to win a Triton first, I think, and an APT

563
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<v Speaker 2>would be possible, I guess small like a side of

564
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<v Speaker 2>any PT, but never the you know, a main or

565
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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. So yeah, it'd be cool, but I'm

566
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<v Speaker 2>not going to every WPT just to try to win one,

567
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<v Speaker 2>you know, so it's not It's not that high in

568
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<v Speaker 2>my book. I love the WPT by the way. I

569
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<v Speaker 2>think they are a great brand, one of the best

570
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<v Speaker 2>friends and poker and I've watched them for a really

571
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<v Speaker 2>long time, back when they're on the Travel Channel, just

572
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<v Speaker 2>like the direction that they've gone with the company, and

573
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<v Speaker 2>I think they're just a very respectable.

574
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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. I'm a big fan myself. We recently

575
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<v Speaker 1>saw Patrick Antonia's get into the Hall of Fame. You

576
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<v Speaker 1>were on the list of finalists in twenty twenty three,

577
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 1>but not this year. But like big picture, you know,

578
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>do you want to get into the Hall of Fame someday?

579
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do. I think it'd be would be cool.

580
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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of taken off guard when I was

581
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<v Speaker 2>suddenly on the list last year because I think a

582
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<v Speaker 2>Hall of famers, I think these older guys and things,

583
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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I'm not so young myself these days,

584
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<v Speaker 2>forty four. But maybe I was a little preemptive to

585
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<v Speaker 2>get on there. But my friend Eric Baldin kind of

586
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 2>just threw it out there on Twitter, and apparently that's

587
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<v Speaker 2>why I didn't get on this year. I don't know

588
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>about this nomination process they have, but someone needs to

589
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of nominate you publicly. I don't know if like

590
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<v Speaker 2>Twitter is the platform to do that, it's or what.

591
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem that clear to me. So I was

592
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<v Speaker 2>pretty shocked when I wasn't on the list this year

593
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<v Speaker 2>because I thought I would be one of the you know,

594
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<v Speaker 2>possibly get in there. But after Antonius is on there,

595
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<v Speaker 2>I think he is very deserving and should have I

596
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's hard to compare you know, the industry

597
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 2>poker people and the poker players, so I don't know

598
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 2>where to go with all that, and Also, I don't

599
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<v Speaker 2>know some of these old school people who are on there,

600
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<v Speaker 2>but I do know that Antonio's is a legend and

601
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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred percent at some point being Hall of Fame.

602
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's crushed the highest stakes for a long time.

603
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<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was very well deserved. And it's

604
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<v Speaker 2>cool to see someone who doesn't have a lot of

605
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<v Speaker 2>wsop success because sometimes it feels like the Hall of

606
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<v Speaker 2>Fame is very wsop us friendly. So I thought it

607
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<v Speaker 2>was cool that someone who isn't from that you know

608
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<v Speaker 2>group of people was got the award.

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<v Speaker 1>This story, I guess a little bit different than you

610
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<v Speaker 1>know you're possibly wanting to get into the Hall of Fame,

611
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<v Speaker 1>is you know, how how would you want people to

612
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<v Speaker 1>remember the poker career of Jeremy Osmas, you know, let's

613
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<v Speaker 1>say forty years down the road when things are all

614
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<v Speaker 1>said and done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good question. First and foremost, like a lot of winning, right,

616
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<v Speaker 2>That's that's my main goal in poker, but also going

617
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<v Speaker 2>about it ethically always, you know, being composed and never

618
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<v Speaker 2>having big big bones. I thick people and fights them

619
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<v Speaker 2>all over Twitter and things like that. Not the way

620
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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to be remembered. So I do a pretty

621
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<v Speaker 2>good job of saying out of all that. So, yeah,

622
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<v Speaker 2>just kind of controversy for you. Just a guy who

623
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<v Speaker 2>came in and got along with people and was enjoyable

624
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<v Speaker 2>to be around, and joined the company of the tablemates

625
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<v Speaker 2>and just had a long, successful career.

626
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<v Speaker 1>You recently shared a story on Twitter about your cousin's daughter,

627
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<v Speaker 1>Emily Osmas, being the youngest member of the US Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>water polo team. She's only eighteen years old, but she

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<v Speaker 1>made it to the world's biggest stage and competed at

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. I'm sure there's probably some close friends, some

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<v Speaker 1>family members of yours that might look at you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in a similar light because you're the big poker

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<v Speaker 1>player on a lot of the biggest stages, playing for

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<v Speaker 1>tons of money. But now you're like on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side watching Emily compete for an Olympic medal. Possibly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that experience like watching her go through it

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<v Speaker 1>all and doing so at such a young age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was so cool, man, I was I've just

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<v Speaker 2>been so beyond excited for like, my kids play sports,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's there's nothing better than watching your kids

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<v Speaker 2>play sports. But this is my cousin who grew up

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<v Speaker 2>next to me for a number of years and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>close with lives in California now and his Yeah, both

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<v Speaker 2>of his kids are just like elite water polo players

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<v Speaker 2>fool right, And they both went to USC but they

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<v Speaker 2>could have gone anywhere they wanted to believe anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And and the daughter, who's the younger the two, is

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<v Speaker 2>just a complete phenom and and made it into the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were sure to watch every game and learned

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about water polo and it was really really

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<v Speaker 2>cool to go watch and learn about it. We watched

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<v Speaker 2>the game of Theirs when they came to Vegas a

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<v Speaker 2>few years back, and so, yeah, it was fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>was texting a lot with my cousin who was there

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<v Speaker 2>watching and fom on TV and the stands and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So hopefully if she's she took her first

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<v Speaker 2>year off of college just to train for the Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>and they take thirteen people and she didn't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's kind of she's the youngest, so she didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>if she's like, maybe gonna make it, maybe not. They

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<v Speaker 2>cut the team down from sixteen to thirteen. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>so she trains for like almost an entire year and

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<v Speaker 2>skips her first year of college, and then she maybe

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't even doesn't know until like a month before, three

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<v Speaker 2>weeks before the Olympics if she makes the team or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty insane. That's why I can't Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine how stressful that's going to be for the parents. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>if she continues on this path of water pool of dominance.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the twenty twenty eight Olympics are in la

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<v Speaker 2>and we will definitely be going out there and watching her.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted to go this year, but we just we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't make it happen obligation, other things going on. But

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<v Speaker 2>then super stoked that she is still at the top

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<v Speaker 2>like this to go watch her and been to it

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<v Speaker 2>in the Olympics anywhere, so that'd be a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun, awesome. Well that's all I have for you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you taking the time and wish you the

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<v Speaker 1>best of luck over in Europe and joy Cyprus. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there one time myself, not to this specific property

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to. I went to a different merit property,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was awesome a lot of fun there, So

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you have a good time, hope you win a

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<v Speaker 1>boatload of money, and maybe we'll get a winner's interview

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<v Speaker 1>after it's all said and done.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet, Yes, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me, Bun, all right, everyone that was

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Osmas can't thank Jeremy enough for taking the time

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<v Speaker 1>to chat about a variety of topics. And maybe, just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you'll be hearing him back on this podcast sooner

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<v Speaker 1>rather than later if he can find himself to the

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<v Speaker 1>winner circle over in Cyprus, and then maybe we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to grab him for a winners interview. As a reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>Commentary by Jeff Platt and Brent Hanks. I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be huge. Can't wait to see the

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<v Speaker 1>play from Cyprus from Merit from the new Onyx Club

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<v Speaker 1>that they are debuting over there, and that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it for me. That's gonna do it for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everyone for tuning in, Take care, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you next time. Jennie