Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the show, everybody. It's been it's
been a week, right, I think something like that, right, Rob, Hey,
we got Pete with us tonight. If you don't know,
Pete's documentarian, philosopher, writer, author, all those good things. Monopoly
on Violence is a great movie. You haven't seen it,
go watch it. He's got a lot of writing on
his substacks and everything else that are down below.
Speaker 2: Pete.
Speaker 1: How you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: Doing good? Doing good? What are we gonna talk about?
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna go all kinds of places before
we do. Rob, what are you drinking tonight?
Speaker 3: I have just stocked up the home bar. Sorry, I'm
a little late. Work calls tonight. We're trying to sue
some people. But drinking the Traveler whiskey. I haven't tried
this one yet. I heard it's it's decent. It's on
that Jack Daniels Jim Beam kind of level.
Speaker 4: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be drinking the Maker's Mark tonight. Pete's not
gonna drink with us. He doesn't want to get in trouble.
We'll try to avoid that a little later later, I'll
have a little Madeira Madeira Okay, all right, good deal. Yeah, No,
I don't want to spend too much time on this,
but I do feel obligated to ask because we do
have a largely libertarian audience. But I really don't know
what you've been up to since that whole thing, or
what your take on it has been since the takeover
the Chase Oliver campaign, the whole deal leading into the election.
From what I remember, you know, you were kind of
in support in the beginning a little bit and then
quickly moved to the you guys should join the Republican
Party instead and do that. That would be more effective
and less waste of your time. The gop MESUS caucus
became like a big thing. I remember that, and then
I don't really remember much else after that. I've heard
different things, but I wanted to talk to you directly
because I feel like that's the best way to do it.
So what has been your take on the whole election
strategy or whatever you want to call it of the
Libertarian Party? And then what like, how did you go
approach the election thoughts afterwards that whole deal? Where you
at on that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I came to the conclusion later in
twenty twenty one that if you reading people like Conquest
and Rubber Conquest, that if something isn't explicitly right wing,
it's going to go left wing. Yeah, it always does.
It has to be explicitly, it has to be based
upon something right wing. So I saw the takeover happen.
I was happy for them, you know, because I mean,
I have friends are like you know, I liked that.
I was watching it in twenty twenty two when I
was at Childerberg and you know, hanging out with Bird
and the guys from a Timeline Earth and TYPEO from
all the O those guys were there, and you know,
I was genuinely happy because you know, these are friends
of mine. But I also knew that unless you took
a very staunch right wing approach, things were going to
fall apart. And unfortunately it only took two years. And
then you get Chase Oliver running. I mean, you can
use the excuse that Dave should have run. It would
have been beat you know, okay, sure, but you should
have had something in something in place. And you know,
I'm I'm friends with Michael Rechnan. I like Michael Recnan
walled the lot, but it was people didn't get excited
for Mike, and people wanted Dave and they felt like
Dave had struggled along and everything. And I'm just like, look,
if you I talk about politics a lot, I was
one of the people. I said in February, I thought JD. E.
Vance was going to be the vice president. I said
that there were all these tech guys. We figured out
in January and February that all these tech guys were
moving in to get in Trump's orbit. And you know,
I started seeing how how things actually work. And you
need if you're gonna have any kind of power, you
need elites and you need eleap backing. And I saw
that Trump had a lead backing. Well then you go
over to the to the Libertarian Party and there's really
you know, well who's backing them once. So yeah, I
like and I do actually like what Angela is doing
as far as talking to talking to Trump and talking
to his people and looking to to make deals, you know,
if they get if they get Ross out of prison,
which I mean, he shouldn't be there, mostly because you know,
the of all the corruption that was in the case,
you know, nobody, most people wouldn't have wouldn't have gone
to prison. For all he did. But I like what
they're doing. I just it's not I have a tendency
to believe that we're in a basically we're in it
that looked thin as globalism or national nationalism, regionalism. And
when I look at things like lais Fair, you know,
truly free markets which are pushed, it's globalism. I mean
it's you know, it's going across borders. And what's the
most the most expensive good you have. When you have
a business as labor and you're laysa fair, people are
going to be pushing for a labor to be able
to cross borders. You see Musk doing it, You see
all these people doing it who have libertarian leanings, and
I just think that leads to globalism. So right now,
I'm basically at a regionalism standpoint, where you do things
as local as possible, but it has to have a
distinct tenor of right wing to it, or else it's
going to go left wing eventually. It always does it.
You can't point to anything in history that wasn't explicit,
that wasn't marginally right wing that doesn't eventually go left wing.
It has to be this is this is the foundation
we stand upon and we are not going to move
one inch from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you? Where do you place that divide
up between left and right? Because I kind of agree
with you. I don't even know if it has to
be explicitly right wing, as long as it's explicitly anti
left wing right like, I think that's probably that's it's
a you know, a distinction without a difference, I guess.
But where would you where would you put like? What
would you say that distinction is? Also take a drink,
Rob Magoo just gave us ten.
Speaker 2: Bucks, I'll do it, pinky up, what's something good? Where
would I place it? I mean, certainly hierarchy, having to
believe in a natural hierarchy, and and also caring about
your tring about living historically. Living historically means that you
you live for your you live for your descendants, You
live for the people coming after you, but you also
know the people who came before you. And one of
the reasons I live where I live is because there
are people who've been living here for you know, you know,
a couple hundred years, right, And there's a sense of
history here, there's a sense a foundation here, and it
can't be swept to and fro by the you know,
the latest fad, the latest thing that the regime and
their media is selling you, whether it be trands, whether
it be whatever. There you have to be able to
stand your ground and say no. And I think when
it comes down to it, living historically and knowing who,
knowing where you came from, and knowing and passing that
information along is probably the most you know is something
that we just don't have. We've most people don't know
their great grandfather's name. And I didn't know my great
grandfather's name. Uh. I didn't know my yeah, my great
grandfather's name on my mom's side through my grandmother until
I started doing recent searches and recent research, so, you know,
finding out who these people are, where they came from.
I mean, these are they're you. They're just a form
of you in the past, and you're supposed to You're
supposed to know who they are, and you supposed to
make them proud and yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I think it is important to know where
you came from. I always look at the past as
like a way to learn from other people's mistakes and
try to improve on that and move forward. And then
you know some of the things that worked as well,
Like you know, we tried different things all like nothing
new under the sun, right, everybody's tried everything, so we
kind of know what works and what doesn't work, and
people that ignore that, you know, are doomed to repeat it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Like I said, I don't want to spend too
much time on libertarian stuff. I kind of tend to
agree with you. It didn't turn out the way I
wanted it to. I'm okay with what they're doing now.
I don't know how much it's going to be effective
or successful or how much is really going to change
at the end of the day. The bigger part of
the and Rob, if you wanted to add anything to that,
go for it. But I think I think what I
wanted to go more spend more time on is kind
of like where we're at now now that Trump has won.
You know, what's coming up next, all those kinds of things.
You mentioned the immigration thing when we did our yearly
recap of kind of like what happened and where we
think things are going. That was kind of one of
the things that I pointed at and said, I think
there's going to be a huge battle over immigration. I
think there's a lot of people on the right especially
that support it, but even you know, not just left wingers,
not just the libertarians, not just you know, whatever, There's
going to be a big backlash if Tom Holman does
what he's talking about, doing mass deportations that actually comes
to fruition. That's like, that's civil warshit right there, Like
people are going to stand in the way. I feel like,
but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I just feel
like there's going to be a huge battle over this issue,
Like it's going to be the next like not maybe
not on the same level as Black Lives Matter, but
maybe like it's going to be a big brawl. I
feel like, But I don't what do you think of?
Like you agree with that? Do you disagree with that?
Or is there something else that maybe I should pay
more attention to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that there are a lot of
people who are screaming about how you know, we not
only have to stop immigration, but we need to remigrate
people who know someone in their life who's here illegally
that they want to make an exception for and that's
just not acceptable. You know, you have to be able
to say, yeah, if we are going to get rid
of everyone who's here illegally, we have to get rid
of everyone who's here illegally. I don't care if you
like them or not. Yeah, you know, but we also
have to look you also have to look at some
of the laws that went into place, that birthright, citizenship
and things like that. I mean, that's a big that's
a big deal. You know, Aveke has you know, really
shown you know, Vec used to say, you know, you
pronounced my name Vivec like steak, and you know, I'm like, well,
you pronounce it like snake because he's a snake. I mean,
he told us exactly, He told us exactly what he thinks.
He thinks that Indians are better than Americans. That's what
that sweet said. That sweet said that people who were
here you suck, You're weak, you you're stupid, and we
need to bring all these street shitters over here and
to replace you.
Speaker 3: What it was, I haven't seen this tweet. I'm cold
reacting here. What what tweet is? What tweet is this?
Speaker 2: I have it, I have it in my in my bookmark.
Speaker 3: Indians are better than Americans. Indians are better than Americans.
At what eating kalpoo Vic.
Speaker 4: What are we talking about? Running US seven eleven?
Speaker 2: Uh calling me?
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, really good at communication, These Indian people
calling me all the time.
Speaker 4: I don't like what is he talking about here?
Speaker 2: Trying to figure trying to figure out how to put
it in the in the private chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can put it there or you can send
it to me in a DM, whatever's easier for you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's so much better, then why does India
smell so bad?
Speaker 1: Vivank like we play You did play Geo Guess or
India Style on the other day and uh, you missed it.
Speaker 2: Rob.
Speaker 4: It was terrible this week.
Speaker 3: I have been just super inundated with work and last
week and the holidays. Uh, Indians are in like the
x algorithm right now for whatever.
Speaker 4: We like that there's something going on and.
Speaker 1: We it's this whole conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well here's I mean, yeah, this is this
is the tweet. I mean, if you read the whole thing,
it is absolutely insane. The reason top tech comp. I
won't read the whole thing, but I'll try to read
some of it. The reason top tech Company. And he's
often hire foreign born and foreign first or oh, and
first generation engineers over Native Americans isn't because of an
innate American IQ deficit, a lazy and wrong explanation. A
key part of it comes down to the C word culture.
Tough questions demand tough answers, and if we're really here,
serious about fixing the problem, then we have to confront
the truth. So's he's saying that that Americans don't have
a hard work attitude and culture. He's basically he's basically
applying the the stereotype of the lazy American to everybody.
And what he's saying is he's like, there's no white
engineers out there, and oh, well, you know. And at
one point in here he said he says, and other
people were saying and he and the things that I
saw him retweet was you know, you have immigrants to
come over here and work sixteen hours a day, and
you know that's how they get that's how they beat you.
And I'm like, yeah, first of all, there's no immigrants
working sixteen hours a day. You can kiss my ass.
Especially maybe an Indian. Is an Indian is not working
sixty That guy's in the I mean, he's either you're
either trying to teach him how to use the bathroom,
and that's where they're spending most of the time, or
they're out in the alley, you know, behind the building. Okay,
these people are not smart. I had an Indian. I
had an Indian gentleman who spoke at Happa's onter Mahappa's
PFS conference last year, and I had him on last
week to talk about what Indias really like and what
Indians are really like. And he's like, they're you do
not want anything to do with them. He goes and
the one thing he said that everybody picked up on
was he said, most of the he goes the Indians
that can pass for being trustworthy and maybe even smart
or already here, you haven't met the average Indian yet,
he said. It's a culture of scamming. It's a culture
of trading, trading favors with set for sex and for
for money. He said, you know these people have just
just yeah, they love chaos. They thrive on chaos. I
heard this number last year and it was not last year,
but like this last week, and I couldn't believe it,
but it's I looked it up and it's true. Sixty
percent of India shits out doors somewhere on a daily basis,
that's six hundred million people a day. That's almost that's
a little under twice the amount of people in the
United States.
Speaker 1: It's so it's absurd. When you go to the street view,
I'll just say that, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the these are these are not people
you want here. I mean I talked to friends of
mine who owned businesses and there's like a jeep like
gas station next door. They're like the smell. You can't
even deal with the smell, and you'll like offer them.
I have a friend who offered one like an absurd
amount of money just so that he would shut the
business down so he had extra parking for his business.
And they had, oh, I have to talk to my
cousin and this, and then they ended up going, no,
this is more money than they're going to make in
their whole life. And they just did it to spy
them just because he wanted something. They were like, fuck you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do feel like the conversation is a bit disingenuous
when they talk about like we just need all these
programmers or we need all these high tech people's jobs.
Americans can't do this whole thing. And then, like you said,
you see what kind of jobs immigrants are doing, and
it's not that it's you know, cleaning hotel rooms. It's
fucking working in restaurants. It's working at gas stations or
whatever it is with their families and everything. And I'm
not knocking the entrepreneurial spirit or anything like that by
saying that entrepreneurial.
Speaker 2: If you travel this country on the highway and you
get off and you go to a hotel that like
there's a one there, it's probably like a nine to
ten chance that it's going to be Indian owned. That
didn't happen by accident. They were given that.
Speaker 1: That's like you think it was given. You don't think
they saw an opening and took it.
Speaker 2: Those are those are special favors where they get they
sign a contract for I think it's like a year
or two years, and then they have to sell it
to somebody else and they sell it to their cousin.
They just keep it in the family and it just
and they they're they're like, they don't some of these
some of these are loans that are interest free. Most
of if it's alone, it's interest free. Some of it
they don't have to pay back if they meet certain
requirements or something like employment, and they all just hire
their own family and everything. These people. You're not going
to fucking convince me that the people that you know,
white white men started Silicon Valley. It was white men.
It didn't become you know, someone told me. I was
listening to Joe Attwell and they are Interesting Times podcast
and he lives out he lives out there, and he said,
if you go to like in Silicon Valley, to where
they have that apple like spaceship kind of thing and everything,
he goes, that's basically an engineering center. He goes, there's
a reason why there's three Indian food restaurants across the
street from it. And if you stand out there and
watch them go to lunch, it's all fucking Indians. Are
you telling me there's no white engineers? Then you take
into consideration that look at the numbers. Scott Adams was
talking about this last week, New hires six percenter white men.
White men are over fifty percent of this country. Is
it just cheaper in general? Is it just cheaper? I
think it's that, and I think it's a fuck you
to white people and anyone who's been paying attention. You see,
they're like, you know, there was a guy, Mark Potak,
who was at the Southern Poverty Law Center and he
was doing this until he got caught. He had on
his someone took a snap the picture and released it.
He had in sticky notes on his computer monitor. He
was every year the percentage of white men like in
the United States, and he was like counting it down,
counting it down, counting it down. He was celebrating this.
They celebrated open they celebrated openly.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for the white men to be the minority.
They've been talking about that forever. I know, I've heard
that like a bunch of times. Eventually you'll be a
minority and then you'll see what it's like or some
shit like that. That's the kind of attitude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we know.
Speaker 2: The easy the easiest way to do it is to
you know, bankrupt, make them poor, or what they did
with the opioid epidemic. You know, my friend Trey, my
friend Trey Garrison wrote a book about it called Opioids
for the Masses. In all his research, when they went
into West Virginia and you know, they were saying, oh,
these are they're not addictive. They're perfectly fine. They gave
them to Indian They concentrated on giving them to Indian
doctors because they knew Indian doctors weren't going to have
any problems even if they had a question about them
about giving them to white people.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, you know, Uh, as a black man, I
just find it a poor what they what these people
are doing to y'all. Honestly, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: This ginger pretending. Now, it's an interesting conversation because it
really like that whole spat between Elon Musk Vivek and
you know, Trump supporters and all this kind of realization
that they had to come come to terms with.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've been hearing. Like I said, I
haven't really seen a whole lot from you, just because
I haven't been paying attention. There's nothing that you did wrong.
I just try to stay in my own little start.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I did a lot longer, I've done
a lot wrong. But that's that's okay. According to the
according to the region, you know, the post war consensus
kind of thing. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Now, the the index card of allowable opinion is used
as toilet paper. But anyway, I don't know. I was
trying to come up with something clever. I you know,
that's the best I got anyway, Uh, I've been hearing.
Speaker 4: And that's why an Indian is gonna take your job.
Speaker 1: Well, it's okay, grop took my job.
Speaker 4: A can I say, are you are we about to
move on?
Speaker 3: Because I did want to say something because I want
to take a step.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna move on like A totally. I wanted
to ask about immigration, But go ahead.
Speaker 3: I just like, and it's not to say that there
is nothing wrong with what we are doing right now
as a society like America. You know, our education system shambles,
you know, like we could do a lot better with
educating our people and and you know, reeling back all
these DEI incentives at the university level so that more
people who are merit based, you know, more people get
accepted on merit based you know criteria, and then those
people get into the workforce.
Speaker 4: I I think it's not just like this white and
black thing, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's a white and brown thing right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like I don't know, if you if you've
got some Chinese engineer who's like, like really fucking good
at math, Chinese math over some Yeah.
Speaker 1: Out of that, That's where I was kind of going
with this, like do.
Speaker 2: You know the average do you know the average Chinese
person who gets caught spying in the United States is
second or third generation?
Speaker 4: That would make sense.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that China that would make sense because
it's it's like less obvious, right, you know, they're like,
you've been here for a while, we're tapping you.
Speaker 4: But they have connections back in the homeland. Probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing is have they become an American?
You know. It's like when my when my dad's family
came here, they basically burned their boats, like we're not
fucking going back. Yeah, you know, we have nowhere, We
have nowhere to go. When my mom's family did the
same thing. I was reading my mom's uh grandmother, my
great grandfather. I was reading his the paperwork he had
to the things he had to swear to to become
a citizen, and this was in nineteen nineteen. One of
them was he wasn't an anarchist, and if you understand,
if you know nineteen nineteen, you'll understand why. And also
that he wasn't a politic missed. But you know, I'm
reading that and he's saying, I am. I am basically
renouncing any loyalty I have to the Austro Hungarian Empire.
And you know, I mean, do they even make people
do that anymore? Do people even care? Do people feel
that when they come here? I mean, what percentage you do?
People who are coming here on a visa? Are not
people coming here on a visa are coming here to work? Right? Okay,
that's it. It's you're is there a contractor if I'm
contra I've contracted out with When I was in the
in the private sector, I contracted out all the time
myself a couple of times to a couple of companies.
I didn't. I was here for a paycheck. I wasn't
loyal to them. I wasn't thinking about getting a gold
watch in thirty four years. Yeah I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you don't care about that company's culture or
anything about what their core values are. It's like, fuck
all that give me my fucking money and I'm going home.
Yeah no, And I think that's like important things in
there too. And that's kind of where I was going
to lead the conversation next was kind of moving from immigration,
like Okay, these these immigrants are coming here and they're
taking all their jobs, you know, the me and the
whole thing. But then it's kind of also like now
there's another discussion that's being had, like a difference between
nationalism and protectionism, because you know, like it's not Rob
was kind of talking about a merit based system or
something like that, and there's an argument that could be
made that like, if there's somebody who's better at the
job from another country, maybe they come, maybe they don't,
but that's that's not the same as you know, nationalism.
The way I interpret nationalism is just having pride for
your country, you know, being you know, respecting the values,
understanding what it means to be an American, what that's
all about, and then embracing that and embodying that and
and trying to live that out. That's kind of how
I view nationalism generally. And then for protectionism, though, it's
kind of like, well, even if it hurts us, we're
going to do it for our people. Like where you like,
I don't know, maybe I'm you're the more eloquent one. Okay,
I'm gonna drink and talk shit, but you go ahead
and like where are you at on that divide?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Can I just add to the question because you
kind of mentioned that this whole globalism aspect as well,
which ties into this. So just what's your take on
you know, having what Tim said, having goods and labor
abroad coming into the United States and should should we
be protectionists or you know, what should we do in
that aspect if we can provide goods to our citizens
for cheaper and let's just say it's not child labor, Like,
don't don't say like it's it's child labor everywhere or
something like that.
Speaker 1: Hand, they're smaller and they can fit in the gears better.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even care about that. I
don't think I think most kids should be working from
the time of twelve years old. Yeah. When I think
of a nation, I go back to Rothbard's article from
like nineteen ninety four, Nations by Consent, and what the
way he described a nation was. He described to people,
that's it. Nationalism is about your people. It's about who
are your people? And you know who are your people.
You're willing to fight for, You're willing to dive for,
You're willing to sacrifice for and these that's that's not
what we're importing, these people who are coming here, these
h one bees. Why are none of these h one
bees like Swedish? Why are they like not German? Why
are you know, why aren't they from Western Europe? Because
part of it is about, you know, well, we don't
like white people. Two is they command too much money.
And you know three, they want to punish us by
bringing in people who are not like us and come
from a completely different culture. So nationalism, all nationalism to
me is caring about your people, and I think you
should do anything you can to protect that. Now, you know, so,
I'll think back to the essay that every libertarian tells
you to. You know, you're told to read eye pencil
you cannot make You cannot make a pencil unless you
you know, it has to come from You're getting materials
from twelve, ten, twenty different nations. Okay, that's great. Are
you sure you sure we can't get it here? Okay?
You want to? You want to. You want to get
everything you can possibly hear or at least as local
as possible. Two do you are they pushing it on you?
Are you going to them for it, you know, or
is there some kind of deal being made that they
can that they're somehow taking advantage of us. Yeah, that's
the kind of things you have to take into consideration.
You know. There was a Friedrich List was eighteenth century
nineteenth century economist German was over in Germany. He came
to the United States, wrote a bunch of letters, letters
back and forth to Congress. This was after Toukville came here,
and basically he was describing how he thought the American
economy could work best. And he said, the way it
worked best is you have free trade within your country
and then you have tariffs with that. And one of
the reasons he was big on tariffs was he saw
the Portuguese. The portrait Portuguese at the time were the
biggest wine. They had some of the best wine in
the world. People wanted people wanted this wine all over Europe,
all over the world. Well, some Portuguese guy decided he
didn't want to have it. He wasn't going to he
he was and this was a big industry, and the
biggest Portuguese wine owner decided, oh well, I'm going to
just I'm going to export all this and it's all
going to get done in England and basically just Portugal's.
Portugal's economy started taking a hit, and England's getting and
England's getting stronger at their you know, at the just
and Portugal is getting weaker. I mean this goes back
to what's more what what's more important the your nation
and your people or your pocketbook. I mean a lot
of these guys, you know, your bank account, A lot
of these guys are I mean, they just don't care.
It's it's about you. Elon Musk doesn't. Elon must wants
to go to the moon, Marshall or Mars. Sorry, maybe yeah,
go ahead, Maybe he can start, Maybe he can start
with the moon. But if he wants to go to Mars,
think about that. He that means he's not even really
loyal to this world, is even really loyal.
Speaker 1: To well, he would say that he's for humanity and
he wants humanity to extend beyond earth.
Speaker 2: That's that's retarded. He's what has he done for? What
is he? What has he done for South Africa where
he's from? He left and white people, white people are
being destroyed, white people are being families and farmers are
being murdered, there and destroyed and you know what has
he done there? So I mean the fact that he
would that all this H one B stuff would come
out and he'd be like, you know, fuck you you know,
turned into Grossman from Tropic Thunder telling people to fuck
you know, fucking you know, which is ironic to considering
what what what and who the character is and supposed
to represent. Yeah, I just I don't see. Here's the thing.
If you were to convince me one that we we
don't have the homegrown talent to go to the moon, right,
I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.
I think that Elon is looking at the bottom line
and that's why he wants to bring in you know,
infinity jeets. And then there are people who are going
to push him to do that because they know it's
going to fuck up our culture. So I mean, there's
Elon could be doing this and he's he doesn't even
realize what he's doing, even though he is fucking over
our people. Because I'm sorry that the greatest scientific discoveries
of all time were made by white boys with pocket protectors.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting, Like I there is
this like divide right between like what's the most efficient
or like what's the most profitable way to get something done?
Like the whole argument with eyepencil is that it's not
that you can't do it all in one location, it's
that it makes sense to do it in multiple locations
because you can get the rubber cheaper over here, the
metal cheeper over there, you know, all these kinds of things.
The wood is cheaper here and there, and then you
bring all those things together, and like that's the that's
the argument for eyepencil. But there is something to be
said about, you know, your culture and everything that you
lose in between, Like what are you willing to sacrifice
for the efficiency, for the profitability, for the for the GDP?
What are you willing to sacrifice for that? Is the
culture of America worth three points on our GDP? I
don't know, probably not.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, well, I mean and that's the problem
with being what libertarians is line go up is everything.
The line has to keep going up. And if the
line goes down, even for a short period of time,
oh well that's a signal.
Speaker 1: Well the libertarians should know the line is always going
to go up. That's called inflation. It's that simple.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, and you know, just honestly,
one of the other things that one of the other
problems I have what libertarians is is that they say
all these things need to change, but they're not. How
are they going to change them?
Speaker 3: Know Howard like the ability to change anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Howard Lutnik, who's the Commerce Secrets former. Uh well,
I mean I think he may still be the CEO
of Canter Fitzgerald. He immediately he was talking about a
bitcoin reserve that they wanted to make bitcoin and m
one reserve, and people started, you know, it basically caused
us to blow up and everything, and people started freaking out,
and people are and people are like, you know, libertarians
are like, yeah, this is it, this is it, We're
gonna have. It's like, okay, look, I know enough about
bitcoin and and a lot of those people who are
screaming I probably have more bitcoin than you, even though
I don't don't really trust it. I don't. I have
a pretty good idea where it came from and what
it's whole purpose was in the beginning. But the the
I I know it can't be fractionist. I know that
Bitcoin can't be fractionalized. But they're like, oh, we're going
to have a bitcoin standard, and you're only going to
be able to print a certain amount of money to
match a certain amount of bitcoin. Well says who, yeah,
says who. I mean the gold if you go to
like the city of London, not not the whole city
of London with the bad teeth and everything, but there's
a one square mile city of London that is completely different.
It's not even it's its own entity. They lend money,
I mean, that's where all the banks are. They lend
money there against gold. They don't lend money. They don't say, oh,
we have a trillion dollars worth of gold, We're going
to lend a trillion dollars. They go, no, we have
a trillion dollars lend the goal of gold. We're going
to lend ten trillion dollars. That's the same thing that
they're going to do with the bitcoin reserve. I know,
I've been told by people behind the scenes that that's
exactly what's going to happen. They can't fractionalize bitcoin, they
can't fractionalize what's on the blockchain, but they can use
it as a reserve. And so unless there's a libertarian
in charge to make sure that doesn't happen, then nothing changes.
You can still have infinity fucking wars. You can still
finance infinity wars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we go even if we go to a
gold standard. You know, it doesn't matter if you have
fractional reserve banking. That's a good point, it doesn't It
doesn't actually matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll just pretend that we have gold that
we don't have, and then when we come calling for it,
we'll say, hey, we're gonna move to this thing called oil.
Speaker 4: It's the old run around, the run around, you get.
Speaker 1: You don't even have to do that gold.
Speaker 2: Now India, you know who has gold? Now India has gold, we.
Speaker 1: Should we should bring them over and take their gold
and send them back. How about that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: At least at least ten percent of that gold was scammed.
Speaker 4: Out of old ladies. That's rights in America.
Speaker 1: That I did look it up. I did look it
up on H one B visa programs. I wanted to
see by country, UH. Top five countries ready, India, China, Chile,
Singapore and then Australia.
Speaker 2: Those are Singapore is Singapore is really weird for being
number four considering how small it is.
Speaker 1: It's a I you know, it could be wrong, but
that was a quick search.
Speaker 3: Singapore also has its own thing going on, like they
actually don't like, they don't enjoy a lot of American
tourists over there, and they I think they primarily speak English.
Speaker 2: They're extremely race they're extremely racist against against other Asians.
Speaker 1: It's very specific.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody was telling me that there was a Japanese
rest they were in Singapore, and there was They were
in a Japanese restaurant and a Chinese person came in
and asked and asked like for directions or something, and
the person looked at us to get the fuck out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like completely rude to each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up start of a bar joke right there?
Speaker 3: Singapore Chinese and a Japanese walking to But there's the
start of a joke there. Singapore is just weird, dude, Like,
you can't litter gum, you know, it's fine, it's like
a five thousand dollars fine. And if you get ticketed.
I think most of their tickets work like this. They
roll up on you with like the the card taker
right there, like you pay right then you're getting fucked
right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're pretty much. They're pretty famous for their
culture being very honest. Like if you drop your wallet
and someone picks it up and they know it was you,
they'll run after you. Or if you ask someone for directions,
I'll actually take you to where you're where you're going.
You know that. And if you're going to have a
multicultural society, then maybe you're going to have to have
the threat of violence hanging over people's heads, you know,
with where if you step out of line a little
bit and spit a little gum on the ground, then.
Speaker 1: You can lose your tongue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was it?
Speaker 3: There was a Malaysia that lash. Last dude in the
Clinton presidency was Singapore.
Speaker 4: Singapore. Yeah, Singapore Kane. That Singapore Kane.
Speaker 2: I remember. I'm old enough. I was. I remember watching
that on TV and and them reporting and it's like, oh,
it's so terrible and everything. I'm like, he fu he
was in another country and he fucked up. I've been
to other countries. You're on your best behavior, yeah, you
better be. Yeah, it's like the guy in North Korea
went to North Korea, and he tried.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, I was gonna ask you
feel the same. Do you feel the same about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you're in North Korea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't fuck around, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't step out a line.
Speaker 1: I know it's a I know it's the Pentumpkin Village
or whatever it's called. It's all fake and all that bullshit.
But you better be on your best behavior. You don't
see the other side real quick. Yeah, I agree with you.
If you if you're in another country, you kind of
do got to be on your best behavior. I did
want to go back to you know you were saying, uh,
you know, libertarian's got the wrong idea about this, that
or the other thing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Here your two favorite people, I guess Elon Musk and
Vivek Ramaswami run in doge. So I guess your prospects
for that are not high. You don't think it's gonna work.
Speaker 2: You know. The way I look at it is, I
don't expect. I don't expect much. But if something, if
something happens, it's it's just a bonus, you know. I
mean I was all one hundred percent for Trump over
Biden and then Harris only because I know that, like,
you wouldn't have had this whole thing with h one B.
They wouldn't have even talked about it. I mean, check
out how many HB came in under Biden at least
like at least on Twitter, people are getting screamed at,
you know, you know, Elon is getting screamed at. They're
hearing and they're like reading this and they're reacting to it.
And I'm glad it happened because I mean, Maya Kulpa
I was I was tricked by the Veke. I thought
Avek was our guy. You know, he reads, he quotes
James Burnham. I'm like, this is my guy, someone who
unders stands that we have a managerial state. Managerial state
needs to be torn down. We need to go to
like an Article two kind of executive and you know,
just have one person running the government. And and then
you know, you find out he wants infinity fucking Indians
because he's a fucking Indian and he wants and they're
like and they have a bigger they have bigger in
group preference than that other group that runs everything. And
he can say they have they they probably they're the
only one. They have a much bigger in group preference.
So he wants all those people to he wants all
his people to come in, and he's like, and fuck Americans. Basically,
it's like, okay, okay, sure you fucking s treat shitter.
I mean, I mean, and this is a guy, and
this is a guy who became this is a guy
who became a a billionaire through a pump and dumb scheme.
I mean, he like bought his mom, like hooked him
up with some research that they knew wasn't going to
work on Alzheimer's drugs, and like the only drug he
did push through that made any money was like hormone
was like a hormone blocker, so it was a trans drug. Yeah,
this sky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So now you're granny who's losing her memory can
grow a penis.
Speaker 2: And it's probably gonna be bigger than any Indian penis.
Speaker 1: Probably well, And that's kind of what I was gonna
I was getting at, is like you know, you would
think on the outset of it, because like I do think,
I don't know. Maybe you correct me if I'm wrong,
maybe you've changed your mind, But I've always known you
as a libertarian guy, as a guy that had more
libertarian ideals about where how the world should be and
how it should be run or like how things should operate,
just talking about philosophy, not talking about party or anything
like that. You know, you got the meme, you know,
libertarian ideas libertarian candidates. You're a libertarian ideas guy, not
a libertarian candidates guy. That's how I've always viewed you
and so and then when I see like all this
other stuff about nationalism and about you know, pride for
your country and culture and those things, Vivec sounds like
the right guy, right because he's talking about he came
to the LP convention and then beyond that has been
talking about the divide between uh he was he keeps
promoting libertarian nationalism. You think he's full of shit on that?
Or is it like the way he got he got
really bad, He get booded by whoever he wants. I
think the idea the name sounds good, but is what
he's attributing to that name? Is that bullshit? Is that
what you're saying, Like, because.
Speaker 2: You're saying nationalism implies to people? Yeah, okay, so who
who are who are the nationalists, who what's the nation?
It should be American nationalists, it should be I mean, well,
you know, and I'm one of those people who is
I'm still very sympathetic to libertarian ideas, but I'm also
one of those people who understands that if you get
a libertarian society, it's going to be all white Western Europeans.
Do you think so other's libertarians? Yeah, libertarians. Yeah, that's
one of the open borders libertarians. And I was an
open borders libertarian at one point because I hate the cops,
and it's like, oh, well we need the cops.
Speaker 1: And share that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I still hate the cops, but diff for
different reasons. But the you can't. That's like the open
borders libertarians are like, oh, we have to have It's like, look,
you have a whole country full of people. You're going
to have to sell libertarianism too. You're going, now you're
going to invite people who shit in the streets to
come in. You're going to invite people from Central America
who are, you know, maybe legitimately struggling, and what they're
going to read Rothbard? You're going, what are you handing
them copies of anatomy? Of the state and Spanish as
they come over over the border. Look, you can't if
you want a libertarian society, you can't import tons and
tons and have unlimited people coming in who don't know
anything about libertarianism. Yeah, it makes no fucking sense. And
to you can argue with me all you want. I'm right,
I know more than you. I'm sorry. I've been studying
this longer than you. I have a fucking you know.
If you don't think I understand libertarianism, go look at
my my documentary and tell me what's wrong in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't understand libertarian I understand libertarianism. It just doesn't
fucking work. It doesn't work in a multiculture. Multicultural society
doesn't work. Look at what's happening to our society. I mean,
we have fucking vets doing frigging like German style, you know,
festival drive, you know, freaking car attacks, and you have
another vet who's blowing up a fucking cyber truck. Even
if if that was him, I mean, that's such a
fucking bullshit story. Yeah. And I had a former Delta
Force guy on my show to talk about that, and
he's like, yeah, this because the guy wouldn't have a
desert eagle. Anybody would make funny if you had a
desert eagle. He's like Norman, He's no, you don't buy
a desert eagl you know. So, I mean open borders
is Sean Kennedy says, open borders is globalism. It's globalism.
You cannot you cannot have a functioning society. You cannot
have a libertarian society if people can just if people
just walk in, and if your goal is to get
to a libertarian society, then you're going to want to
start to start excluding people. Now, Yeah, you don't wait,
you don't wait until you know half of half of
fucking Deli lives, you know, is in your I mean
there's a town I think Brampton, Ontario. Eighty five percent
of that town in Canada is Indian.
Speaker 1: They're doing great. Huh, they got it there. They're going
to the moon. They're going to the moon.
Speaker 2: They have sign yeah, they have. They have signs on
the beaches in Canada saying don't shot on.
Speaker 4: The beach, don't the beach.
Speaker 2: Or maybe that's a libertarian I don't know, well, you know,
and that's yeah, that's been my problem with libertarians generally,
is like, we got to get rid of the libertines.
Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta fix this ship. You gotta you
have to be willing to exclude some people. You got
to say you're not you know, you don't represent us well.
And there's just no willingness to do it. And I
think it kind of it's it's a culture within libertarians
to just say, yeah, we're open borders because, like you
said before, like I think it's very naive take on it,
but it's basically, we don't like the police, we don't
like government, so they shouldn't control the borders, and then
therefore anyone can come in and do whatever they want.
And that's just stupid.
Speaker 2: And mind you, we have a government that has allowed
people to pour over the border. What if we get
a government that won't. What if we get a government
who will say, no, you cannot come. You know, it's
like what I mean, I mean, what I've been saying
recently is the Impaler had some really good ideas. Yeah,
there's there there's a meme going around that says good neighbors,
you know, uh, your walls make good neighbors. And then
there's you see Vlad and he says, bad neighbors make
good walls. That's right, Yes, that's pretty funny. I mean
it's that's why you start. You're gonna have to start
killing people. I mean literally, you're gonna have to start
shooting people if they if they break the law, and
breaking the law is coming over the border.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the VIC does want to bomb Mexico, so
that's another thing. Maybe he can.
Speaker 1: More agreement than you think.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean well, I mean who who's allowed the
cartels to run run free? I mean movie I've seen
that I had seen ten years ago, and recently my
guys at the Old Lori Club reviewed it and I've
watched it like three times in the last month. Is Sakario.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: Go back and watch that movie. It's unbelievable. It's unbelieving.
I mean it'll it just tell you white boys can
get anything done when they want to, and women shouldn't
be the greatest message. Women shouldn't be in the story
of it. Women shouldn't be in law enforcement. Po boys
can get anything done they want. And a lot of
times you're going to have to do business with the devil,
you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Soucario I'm going to add it to my list
to watch.
Speaker 2: Oh it's oh, it's you will you will freak the
It's so good. It's so and part two is really
good too. So yeah, and there are you in part
three now, which kind of excited for. But I'm hoping
they don't fuck down up.
Speaker 4: Is it on Netflix or anything?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Is it? Socario Ccario should be on Amazon Prime?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 1: Right next to a Monopoly of Violence, isn't that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, plug that, dude, please you plug that. I watched.
Speaker 3: I watched Monopoly of Violence like four times, probably back
to back to back to back. When you when you
first dropped it. Yeah, we have it's just a wealth
of knowledge. Actually twenty twenty one, maybe.
Speaker 2: We've actually talked about read editing it, Yeah, re editing
it in a little more realist like a little more
like a decentralized take out a little bit, take out
a little bit of that anarchy kind of stuff to it,
and concentrate on like what seems realistic in society, what
can actually get done? And yeah, so what do you
Kyle Matovics in the in the chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our seed oil captain, Yeah.
Speaker 2: May be the only thing he and I disagree on That's.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll keep bringing it up. It's how he stays relevant, Chuck,
I only gave two bucks, that's not the five dollars minimum.
But I'll take a drink anyway, because I love you.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you that though, is like
where so like what is realistic? What do you realistically
expect out of this second Trump administration now that now
that it's you know, he I was hoping, you know,
back in my mind when we set up the interview, however,
many weeks ago, I was like, I really hope there's
a leftist January sixth thing so that we can come
one here and talk about that. They didn't do nothing,
those fucking bitches, Okay, they just they just made the
DNC is great at cucking women of the of the
Democratic Party. They had Hillary, you know, they finally gave
her a shot, and then she lost to Trump. And
now they've got Kamala and they make her officiate. She's
like officiating the Wesby the wedding of her ex husband
or some shit like that is basically what it feels
like like this. I don't know, something poetic about her
being the one to say that Trump beat her. That
was interesting, but anyway, realistic, what do you think is
actually gonna come of a Trump administration. I think we're
gonna be on the same page. I'm pretty pessimistic about this.
I feel like he lied a lot the first time,
and this time is not going to be any different,
and we're not gonna get much change. It's just gonna
keep getting worse.
Speaker 2: Really, the only thing I care about is immigration at
this point. I mean that's a and remigration. Kicking people out.
Don't even really have to kick a lot of people.
I mean, you're gonna have to kick some people out.
You can, you can pass all sorts of codes and
things and really go after employers that are that are
hiring illegals, and the people will people will leave on
their own. This This has happened before where we've had
large masses of illegals leave because there's just nothing for
him there. That's all I'm hoping for, and just to
that right wingers get left alone. And you know, one
of my things is regionalism, localism, and I think this
gives you some breathing room, a little bit of breathing
room to be able to go ahead and do that
find your people. I already know intentional communities where people
are moving to and they're doing it under different kinds
of legal protections where they can exclude people to get
around the Civil Rights Act and Shelley what was that
shell nineteen forty eight which they basically said you couldn't
exclude someone from a community. But I also know people
who I know one town right now that like people
just kind of organically just started moving there, and now
it's like it's full of some of the most base
people that I know you as some of the best
people I know. And I think we're going to see
a lot of that. I think that we're just going
to see people reversing the multi culturalism on their own
and going back to finding their own people. I mean,
to a certain extent, New York City is still segregated,
and people do that on their own. People have a
tendency to do that on their own. It was definitely
very segregated and on purpose. I mean this was like
voluntary in the early twentieth century. I mean you had
there was like you'd have one street where it was
people from South Germany and the next would be people
who people who are from the eastern side of your
little China.
Speaker 1: You always have these like the communities.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you know you still have Chinatown there,
you still have little Italy and there are people, you
still have Italian italianighborhoods in the Bronx still. And I
think that's what the future is and I think that's
what Trump allows. I think Trump is going to allow
people who understand that there's really no national answers, there's
real there's no real answer to it. I mean, we
we've been occupied since World War Two. The same powers
that occupy us to occupy Europe. And as long as
you're under occupation, you're going to there's no hope for
There's no hope and for the national for taking down
that occupation until that occupation is taken down. And you know,
I don't know when that'll happen. You know, my friend
Thomas thinks it could take one hundred years. It'll happen,
but it'll take one hundred years. But in the meantime,
we just find our own people, and you know, we
we make our stand where we are, and I think
that's all we can do. And I know libertarians talk
about that, but it's not you know libertarians try to
make it like they came up with that idea. What
I mean, it's just nature. It's just nature. Now you're
doing it intentionally. So if you have a bunch of
a bunch of people who are you know, sympathetic to,
you know, nineteen twenties and thirties national socialism, maybe they
should all go and you know, congregate in a certain
area and do that. And you know, and you're going
to see black You're going to see black people do
the same thing. Yeah, you're going to see them go
find their own.
Speaker 4: They love doing it, they love doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a community up in Georgia where no one
even talks about.
Speaker 4: But it's all black.
Speaker 2: And it already it already, it already fell apart.
Speaker 4: Uh you know the one I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it already fell apart because the woman who the
woman who organized it was cheating everybody.
Speaker 4: Oh what happens, it happens.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go visit. Now I have nothing to
do this weekend.
Speaker 2: There'd be some really good barbecue. But you know, it's
like my it's like my buddy says, he says, you know,
if I'm gonna eat barbecue, I want it to be
like some some fat, red faced Scotch Irish guy or
the blackest guy on the planet. You know, run in
the pit, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't. When I go get Chinese food,
if they can barely speak English, that's good Chinese food.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have to speak Chinese the order of
the food.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, that's a good place. But if I answer
and you got some white girl answers the phone, I'm
just gonna hang up. I'm gonna go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: You know, food, Well, like I used to live in Auburn,
and Auburn has like the Mexican restaurant that I found there.
I went in there the first time and three quarters
of the tables was were Mexicans eating. I'm like, okay,
this is probably pretty good. And the same thing when
we found we found a Chinese place. First time I
went to the Chinese place, it was like we were
like the only white people there. Yeah, yes, all right,
this is it. And then it turned out that it was.
It was wonderful. And that was like like at the
end of twenty twenty two, when service because of COVID
and the com crisis, service was really really, really bad
in a lot in a lot of places. Oh, but
if you went into an ethnic place, it was perfect,
everything was great. Yeah, so they got that. Maybe maybe
they don't get kicked out. Maybe you know what Chuck's
talking about here. He's talking about special economic zones, regulation
and tax free or minimal. Is that like how they're
getting around the the excluding people. I don't know, is
that what he's talking about. Maybe I'm something you're talking about.
Speaker 4: He's talking about a solution here.
Speaker 2: Right if you look in my if if you look
in my feed, my podcast feed, and you search a
guy named Peter Siri, it's a C. S E R E.
He explains exactly how they're doing it in Arkansas right
now in the other.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, now that's interesting. I I do think
there's going to be this huge battle over immigration. I
don't know that it's going to go the way anyone
wants it to go. But I don't think that. You know,
there's a lot of people, you know, the MAGA people
obviously think that Trump's going to root out all corruption
and everything's going to be great.
Speaker 2: And that's fucking stupid. You know, it's funny, Yes, someone
said that, someone saying who still buys food from Invader restaurants.
I was at the American Renaissance conference a couple of
months ago, you know Jared Tale or yeah. Yeah, when
I let you know, wife and I left and we
want to go get some meat, It's like, oh, there's
a Mexican restaurant. Isn't it funny that we're eating a
Mexican restaurant at the American Renaissance now and then a
bunch of other people come in from the American Renaissance.
Good food, you can have good food.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I'm ade big foodie and I do. Like
That's That's one thing that holds me back on them,
like saying send them all back, is I want to
be fat.
Speaker 4: I like all this food.
Speaker 2: You're muted or something. We have? Yeah, go ahead, we have,
we have the recipes.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't sneak in some of that uh, some of
that Indian sweat though, that's what really makes the the
teaka masala pop.
Speaker 2: Honestly, have you ever worked with Indians or lived around Indians?
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: It'll cure It'll cure you of any kind of romanticism
about you know, this ancient culture. And there I'm sorry,
no it's I.
Speaker 3: Worked with one, but he's he's a lawyer. I don't
work with him, but like as a colleague I've known
since like like I guess middle school now and pretty
much yeah, grew up and stuff like that. But but uh,
I do see what you were saying about them being exclusive,
Like they are very exclusive.
Speaker 4: Yes, in group preference that one hundred percent. I see that.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's a tough conversation to have when
you're talking about the cold for all identity of you know,
what the nation you want to be would be, and
so someone has to have it, and it's you're the
perfect person for it, Pete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some bald white guy that'll work out.
Speaker 2: Well, No, I was. I worked with this Indian guy
for a while and you know he was lower cast
He wore a two past.
Speaker 3: Oh that is such a that's such a good disc
for like, if you have any Indian friends at home
to be like, oh you lower caste. That is that's
a deep cut right there, dude.
Speaker 2: He so he he wore a two pay and he
had dandriff. He had dandriff in his two pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh he sprinkles a little bit of that fake dandrevon
during the day just to convince other people.
Speaker 2: You don't understand.
Speaker 1: It looks more to really when I put it in there,
they believe.
Speaker 2: The guy, the Indian The Indian guy had on my
show last week. I mean he basically said, he goes,
if you go by their houses and you're like, why
does it They're in America, why does it smell, He's like,
because they want it that way, he goes it. They
thrive on chaos, like they they literally need that, they
need that smell. They need things to not be in
order in order to serve, in order to survive. Yeah.
So yeah, it's I mean, these are not these are
not you know, culture matters. I mean, I think a
lot of Libertarians, a lot of libertarians, you know, especially Hopians.
You know, Hopians have known that for a while, but
I think a lot more Libertarians are coming to the
realization that it's like, Okay, if I want what if
I want the kind of economics I want or the
kind of you know, society that I want, You're gonna
have to exclude a lot the fucking people because their
culture just doesn't match up with it, you know. And
cop it took a lot of shit for saying, you know,
some people are just gonna have to be physically removed,
and he was talking about from a covenant community that
was already established. But I mean, I think we're getting
to the you know, yeah, I had I had my
buddy Clay Martin on the show. I just released it
a couple hours ago, and you know, he's former Delta
and I asked him, I said, do you think we
have terrorist cells in this country right now? And he's like,
of course, yeah, He's like yeah, he said, probably like
ten thousand people he goes, and they're not who you
think they are because somebod it's gonna be from China,
some of it's going to be from Russia, especially consider
what we've done to them in the last two years.
And we're not talking about we're not talking about people
who are here who are working menial labor. These are
people who are here and who are have good jobs
and are funded and they're just you know, they're like
waiting for something. That's why I'm I'm so big on
regionalism and getting the hell out of cities and things
like that, is because I do think we're going to
come to a point where there's going to be patches
of violence, yeah, in this country, and it's not going
to be it's going to be fucking ugly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't see it going well.
I've become more pessimistic, you know, And I do think
there's like a I don't know if there's a move
towards it. I maybe I just want to feel that
way because I feel myself more moving towards that where
culture is becoming a little more important as I get older.
I have kids now, my kids are getting older. It's
like I want to be in a place where they're
going to have a good future. And you know, some
of these ideals or whatever, although like you know, on paper,
you know, or whatever, it might seem like the best option, uh,
you know, to allow the free movement of people at
the same time, and not everybody needs to be my neighbor. Okay,
there's some people that should just stay over there. And yeah,
so I definitely there's people.
Speaker 2: There's people who already hear who you don't want to
be your neighbors.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know that they're so yeah, people.
Speaker 2: Don't even take that into consideration. Is that, you know,
and I already said this about the you know about
about immigration is if you were if your goal. That's
why I think I have a tendency. I have this
theory that libertarians are probably the most black pilled people
on the planet because one they want something, they they
construct their whole worldview around I told you.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: It's like, look, I told you this was going to happen,
and I have the solution to it. Okay, what's your solution. Well,
we just got to end the state, we got to
end public schooling, and all of the these aren't realistic things.
These aren't things that you have the power to do.
So who's going to do that for you? So you
may be able to diagnose the problem, right, but your solutions,
even if your solutions would work, you don't you actually
consider the power that it would take to do it.
Immoral whatever immoral means in a materialistic in a materialistic
you know mindset, which most you know, which a lot
of libertarians have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you're condemned to just wave your fist
in the air for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can make fun of you know, I
know some libertarians I've heard make fun of Bill Buckley
who said that, you know, conservatism was just standing your
around and saying stop yelling, stoppers on you look, Ron Paul.
I didn't really know anything about politics till two thousand
and seven when I saw Ron Paul up on the
debate stage and I started going down the whole of
libertarianism and learning about libertarianism. And you know, people are
talking about the Ron Paul Revolution, and the whole thing
about twenty twenty four was supposed to be, Oh, we're
going to Dave Smith and we're gonna kick rekick off
the Ron Paul Revolution. First of all, it's twelve years later.
A lot has changed. Second of all, what did Ron
really accomplish? Did the world get any better? I think
there were some people who got better, some people who
were able to you know, maybe he inspired bitcoin, maybe
he a bunch of things, But really the world hasn't
gotten better. And why because libertarians don't concentrate on culture,
and culture is the most important thing. You shouldn't be
scream If you want to scream about something, scream about
fucking infinite jets coming in the country. That's you're not
going to have libertarianism. If you have infinite jets, I'm sorry,
they're not They don't they don't understand the non aggression principle.
Most people who are not you have to. I would
say Northern and Western Europeans are really the only ones
who would even even look at that, and they're like, yeah,
that makes sense, that's just not a yeah, Brandon Walsh
corrected me, standing a thwart history yelling stop. That's basically
what libertarians do. It's like, well, we have the answers,
Well what are your answers?
Speaker 1: We got?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean how you do that? You know,
you're it's the same thing of like Havan, Oh, we
want bitcoin to be an n N one reserve. I
want there to be a bitcoin standard, all right, who's
going to be there to make sure that the you know,
the money that's being lent against it isn't being fractionalized.
Speaker 4: And not us is not us, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's something to be said for that too,
because it's you know, you're not going to have if
the culture doesn't appreciate liberty and freedom and they much
prefer security, then you're just gonna get more state. So
like I that's kind of how I viewed, Like, you're
not gonna there's no culture of wanting to be free.
There's a culture of I need things take given to
me and taking care of me. And that's kind of
the culture that America has cultivated over time.
Speaker 2: And is h one is as well? Fair. Yeah, it's
just welfare for foreigners because they're getting less, they're getting
less money than than a than a heritage American would get.
So it's like, okay, well, I mean you're you're just
importing welfare whores.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're on the market simultaneously.
Speaker 2: You know. And and something that you know, giant giant
Bundari the Indian and I keep referencing that. I interviewed
who was that who was at Hapa's conference. I don't
know it, didn't met him, sorry, but he but he
you know, one of the things he said was he said,
these these aren't even good workers. He called he called
them copy and paste workers. And if you know anything
about you know, I mean, I'm not a coder, but
I know a lot of coders. They that's what lot
what it is, right, It's like, oh, right, this piece
of coat is broken, do you know, do you know
how to fix it? And they just copy and paste
it and they go and that's a lot of ways
they do. They're not changing the world. They're not changing
the world. I mean, it was German scientists who were
stolen from Germany in nineteen forty five who changed the world.
White guys, white Europeans, they're the ones who changed the world.
They're the ones who figured they're the ones who created
the Internet. It wasn't infinity.
Speaker 4: Jeets Nazis, to be exact, right, I'm final with that.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that earlier today. I was finishing
a book Jeffrey Hahn was writing, and part of it
was talking about Operation paper Clip, and I was thinking, like,
on the side there, I was like, you know, what
if they were really the smartest and they had to
figure it out and helped us get to the moon.
I mean maybe it was worth it. I don't know,
bringing those scientists over. But yeah, well you were just
wrong about one scene, just one thing.
Speaker 2: I would you have rather the Russians got them right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean somebody was going to get them right.
Your choices were kill them or put them to work?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean and they got they got some
of them too, right. They got a bunch of the
old Nazi scientists over there.
Speaker 2: But the you know, I mean that war wasn't about
anything other than just stopping Germany because Germany was a
nationalist movement. Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure there were some
there was some land they wanted to take, but they
considered it to be German historically German Land. So I
mean that whole thing Darryl Cooper Martyr Maaide is doing
is gonna in like a week, is going to release
his first episode on the real World War two from
the German point of view. And I mean, I think
this is going to blow people away because who's doing that,
Daryl Darryl Cooper Martyr made Martyr made podcast. Yeah, he's
the one who did the twenty seven hour Fear and
Loathing in New Jerusalem that talks about all the time.
Speaker 3: We either had him on or we have been recommended
to have him on several times. I've I think John
Kennedy might have talked about him at one point actually
in the.
Speaker 2: Check He's he's the one who went on Tucker and
said that the villain of World War two was Winston
Churchill and the whole and he got denounced by the
by the White House.
Speaker 4: Amazing like him already all right, cool?
Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know something another thing people are looking
forward to in the Trump administration. Cash would tell, isn't
he one of the good ones, isn't he? It's gonna
expose some corruption.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, even if he doesn't dismantle the FBI,
they he'll just create an environment of Bob's and beajean
that are going to be that they won't get anything done.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come all right, Uh no, you are just
tearing apart my favorite Indian snight favak and.
Speaker 4: Off.
Speaker 1: You gotta turn it off. N dammit, that's not me.
I'm not doing anything that's not me. Okay, well then
it's acceptable. Yeah, exactly, I've farted.
Speaker 3: I farted Jeremy Kaufman off our podcast one time.
Speaker 1: Not how it happened, but sure, yeah.
Speaker 3: There's a fart noise on here. And I thought Jeremy
was like a comedian. I do comedy, and so I
was whatever anywhere you were.
Speaker 1: Saying he should it on all your favorite Indians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well the farting on Jeremy Coffin was not well,
was well received.
Speaker 4: He did not receive it well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're seeing on all my favorite Indians. I
like Cash Mattel, I did like Theveke a lot. I
think I still do like the Veke. I haven't really
dove deep into what he said about all this, but
I do like Doge and all of that.
Speaker 2: I might have high We're not We're not getting rid
We're not getting rid of them. If if Trump wants
to get rid of them eventually, that's fine. Just hopefully
they can do something good while they're in there, something
that will benefit heritage Americans and not every fucking you
know Jeet in freakin India. I mean, what's more, what's
most Yeah, they talking about Oh, well, you know, if
you want to win a sport, if you're a sports
team and you want to win, you got to get
the best talent from all of them. First all, you're
gonna have to convince me that this is the best talent,
because it looks like you're going for the cheapest talent,
and you're going for the cheapest talent. You're gonna finish
in sixteen if you're in the NFL, or is it eighteen?
How many games of care?
Speaker 4: Yea six rop cares? That's well, I mean it was
a sports guy.
Speaker 3: I would also like to say that my Indian friend
does not stink he actually very clean, very clean guy,
whole family, very clean, sustain He's uh, he's upper cass
still going back, he's upper come back. Yeah, he's been
here a minute. I don't think he's going They have
a lot of hotels, they're so very.
Speaker 1: How far how far back do we need to go
to send him back? And what I mean by that
is there's been a big debate about birthright, citizenship right,
and that that shouldn't be a thing, and I am
we were having this discussion in our disc I don't
think that there should be like this anchor baby law,
where like immigrants can just come in have a baby
and now they get citizenship or whatever. That's fucking bullshit.
Speaker 2: That's that's how that's how it banks a citizens his mom.
I don't think his parents are citizens. Yeah right.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can do it now though, Like
I don't think you can retroactively remove someone.
Speaker 4: I think it just has to start right.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
Speaker 4: I don't know, no, go for it.
Speaker 2: If you have cancer, you can start treating the cancer,
but eventually the doctor is going to say we're going
to have to cut it out, right, Yeah, I mean,
I just don't know how you go forward with people
who aren't loyal to the nation, to the people. Yeah,
you know this this Frankenstein Indian guy who's like the
head like, he's like an AI. He's gonna be an
AI advisor to us. David Sachs says, the ais are
something like that. He's the one who started this whole thing.
I mean, the guy looks like a fucking monster. I mean,
if you saw him, he literally looks like you should
have bolts coming out of his neck.
Speaker 4: He's black.
Speaker 2: But he said no, and he's and he said, I'm sorry, No,
it's fun racism ship.
Speaker 1: I think I found the guy. Okay, yeah, go ahead,
keep talking. I'll pull you know what you see you
see yeah, uh huh yeah, I'm trying to get it
up on the screen here.
Speaker 2: Well, he said, they're talking about how they're talking about
oh that you you know, we need the best Indians
to come up. But he's one of the best Indians.
There's video of him. Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 3: Damn, he does look like he does look like Frankenstein though,
like the quintessential Frankenstein.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't want to interrupt you, but I did
want to bring him up.
Speaker 4: No, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: No, that that that seals it. But there's video of
him going I'm not even I'm not even a coder.
He goes, I'm just a really good talker. And I'm like, okay,
So he's a salesman. We don't have white guys in
this country. We don't have enough Jews who are good
salesmen in this country. Yeah, well we have to we
have to put the greatest Jeet salesman in the world.
Of course he's a good salesman. They're fucking liars and cheats, Come.
Speaker 1: On now, and that's yeah. Back to what we were
saying earlier is I think that is like a huge
problem of it is they just they're lying. They're not
We're not getting like the best and brightest that we
can't find here. We're getting the cheapest available labor is
what we're doing, you know. And like you said too,
it's all here for a paycheck. It's not here because
they care about America or they've embraced its values. I
don't know what I missed, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's the last comment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, cash, but cash Patel.
Speaker 3: He's got those deep, deep like eyebags that look like
he's seen just years and years of trauma, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of crazy, it's kind of crazy to look at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know. You know, it's.
Speaker 1: You know, the thousand yards there, this is this is
what we gets looking through me. He's seen some ship
for the thousand ships there, that's right.
Speaker 2: He looks like you've seen some ship.
Speaker 1: I've seen where your ships come from. Okay, there it
is there you go, and he's still here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but the Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know if it can be fixed. I mean, do you
think Tom Holm. I don't know if anybody has the
will to fix it, you know. I mean people say, oh,
you know, things can't be fixed, and I'm like, I
don't know, man. But Kelly did a really good job
of fixing ship in El salvad Or, so much so
that I'm going We're going to El salvad Or soon.
Speaker 3: But do you think you think what Trump said is
right about that? Do you think that he just sent
all of the criminals and everyone here?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, yeah, I think someone fed him that.
He Trump has this habit of people feeding him information
and he doesn't fact check it. Yeah. Yeah, I think
you're especially especially if it's if it's going to cause
like friction, if it's going to cause some kind of confrontation,
because he thrives on confrontation. So I mean anything that
someone gives him negative, he's going to jump all over. Yeah.
I agree.
Speaker 1: I had a thing and then I lost it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, so you were That's why I have the pad.
That's why I have the pad and pen because yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to find uh whatever his mind was thinking of.
You mentioned earlier, and I wanted to ask you about
this that the same people who are running America, even
though Trump's and show, the same people who run America
run Europe.
Speaker 4: Who do you think those people who do you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's because like you left it open for interpretation.
Speaker 2: It was clear. I think it's obvious. Look at Biden's cabinet.
None of them, none of them work on Saturdays.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to paint the picture more clearly for
people like me who are like, maybe you left it
open for interpretation.
Speaker 2: I don't know, no, no, I I say this on
my show all the time. I read. There's a book
that was written by an Israeli Jew, Israel Shahak, which
was basically him exposing how fucked up Israel is and
how fucked up Zionism is. I read the whole thing
on my show. So how do.
Speaker 4: You bring Christians over to that?
Speaker 3: Because like a lot of these evangelical Christians are like
fully in support of Israel, fully in support of like
America funding every single Israeli war and shit like that.
Like my parents, my parents amazed, like amazing on a
lot of different topics as far as like economics and
stuff like that. When it comes to ears Israel, it's
like they're God showsen people. You know, this is what
we believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a Jovis, I'm not a Jovias witness.
I'm not out there trying to convince everybody. I mean
even if you did, like say you woke up three
hundred million normies, what the fuck would you do with them? Yeah?
I mean you want to see you want to see normy,
You want to see normies activated. Look at jan six,
twenty twenty one. That's what you get when normies are activated.
What you're looking for is you're looking for elite people.
You're looking for a natural elite what what Happa calls
natural elites? And you're looking for people who want to
use power, who want to take power and want to
use power, and you know, eventually, I mean that has
to start at the local level now because there's just
no way of doing it. But eventually, maybe you get
someone in the White House who you know, realizes, you know,
lies their way in and says, oh, yeah, Maria Maidelson,
give me that one hundred million dollars. I'll do whatever
you want, and then just fucking goes to war with them. Yeah.
And then after you go to war with them and
you fucking clear them out of here, then we go.
Then we may just have to go to Europe and
fucking kick their asses there too, because Europe is run
by them too. The city of London was founded as
a Kazarian empire in like the year Oney twenty four,
and Kazarians are called themselves Jews. That's where the that's
where the the Rothchilds are out of interesting. That's where
I mean, every every nasty, every money laundering piece of
shit bank is in the city of London. I mean basically, yeah,
so good answer. Yeah. I mean whenever you talk about
those people, things get you know, it's the conversation gets it.
Gets yeah, And I'm just at the point anymore where
it's like, Okay, it's not the Jews, it's Jews. Jews
are doing this. Okay, look at I mean Anthony Blincoln.
Anthony Blincoln is not the Secretary of State of the
United States. He's Netahu's lawyer. Yeah. I mean he's basically
net Ya who's lawyer, and Merrick Garland, who's the attorney general.
He's been attacking Catholics for that. He's been putting Catholics
in jail for praying outside of abortion clinics the last
four years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's more. I think the idea that like
you know, not like you said, it's not that the
Jews are doing everything bad, but there's a lot of
Jewish influence and a lot of uh you know.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Someone said, I'm in to hear my Orcus. I mean
my Orcus is a Saphardic Jew. I think he's from
Cuba and he used to run Highest Spinner, the Immigrant
Aid Society. He used to run the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society,
which is one of the biggest friggin organ NGOs in
the world for taking for mass immigration into into countries.
I mean, when you look at the there's a Charlemaye.
I think it's Charlemaye. I forget what the name of
the town is in Pennsylvania. Everybody talks about Springfield, Ohio,
all the Haitians got in there. Well, there's a there's
a town in Pennsylvania where they actually did an article
recently where they said that all the Haitians that are
in there were from a offshoot of the Hebrew Immigrande society.
And it's like okay, well yeah, yeah, and then it's
like people tell me, you say, oh, you're a Catholic.
There are Catholic charities that do it too. Yeah, there
are Catholic charities that do it. But if you look
at the ones that are really pushing it, go look
at the names on their board. On their board, you
can call yourself, you can start you can start a
nonprofit and call yourself Catholic and not be Catholic. There's
one out there which is like responsible that is only
like second to highest, and like everyone everyone is like
Stein and Berg and Wits. I mean, it's unbelievable. And
then when you look at it, when you go to
most Catholic organizations, they'll be like person's name a little
bit about them, and it'll say, what they're home parishes.
You never see their home parish. Yeah, because they have
no home parish.
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna have to explain this to me
for fifty dollars. I want the answer. What the fuck
is this? O? Seven? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay?
Speaker 1: Oh is it a salute? Okay?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're the only person that people have come in here
and done that too, So you know you got a
lot of respect. I guess fifty.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, then yeah, chunk a monk, he says
his super chat. Lincoln went to Israel after ten seven
and he walked into the Kanesse and said, I'm here
as a Jew. Right, he's the Secretary of State of
the United States, supposed to be representing America. We don't
have You cannot have loyalty to another country. Because here's
the thing. If they fucked this country up, like they're
fucking it up, and this country goes to shit, they
have a place to go.
Speaker 4: I don't have.
Speaker 2: Anywhere to go. Yeah. Yeah, Spain doesn't want me, you know,
because they're under the same occupation, the same occupation regime
that we are here.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I might go to Poland. I mean, but
because I'm.
Speaker 1: You know, okay, So now, okay, if O seven is salute,
I think I know what the O slash is and
I'm just gonna leave it there, all right. So but
that's kind of what I was asking before. I was
trying to get to, is how far back? Okay, Like,
I don't know, do you think that Tom Holman and
Donald Trump are actually serious about a mass deportation agenda?
Do you think that that's actually going to happen? And
then the follow up to that is how far back
do we go? Because if the vek is technically an
American citizen because his parents moved here, stopped distracting me,
because his parents moved here and then they had a baby,
and then that now that baby's an American or whatever,
is that good enough for him to stay? Probably not?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: So do both parents need to be Americans? Well, what
if one of them was was born to immigrants? You know, like,
how how far back do we need to go? How
how far removed do we have to be to get
our culture back? So, first, do you think Tom Holman
and Trump are serious? And then how far back. Yeah,
if you were saying before, you were saying before, like
immigration is the biggest issue and we got to deal
with it and they got to be serious about doing it.
I don't think you can get anybody that's more rhetorically
consistent on this issue than Tom Homan. That motherfucker. If
you let him off the leash, he's gonna go buck
wild and he's gonna round them all up. Like I
feel confident about that. I think the guy means what
he says. But is Trump going to allow it? Is
he going to let him off the least?
Speaker 2: Well that that's the question is you know when I
think I said this earlier, when you know some boomer
who's screaming now about you know, was holding up a
sign at the r n C saying, you know, deport
deported illegals. Now, you know, when it's somebody that they
may know, well, what are they going to say it?
Say about that? And I'm what, ye, And I'm one
of those people who's like, I'm sorry, but you know,
it's like I have members of my family I would
like to see kicked out of the country, you know,
and and they're they've been citizens for US you know,
we we go back, you know, we go back generations here,
and but I don't know, I think that I don't
know that you can do it on you can even
accomplish immigration reform on a big enough scale to make
to make the kind of change it that's needed. That's
why I think regionalism. Regionalism is what's gonna what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way they're talking about it is like, you know,
we're gonna come to your city and we're gonna find you,
we know who you are, and we're going to grab
you and kick you out. Like it seems pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But here's the thing is, ye know, my friend
Tim Kelly from the Our Interesting Times podcast asked me
this question after the election. He said, do elections even
matter when you're when you're occupied?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean probably not. I mean if you're occupied
in control, right, Like, if there's just people here that
are infiltrating and we can out vote them, then I
guess it's okay. But it's not okay. But I mean,
like you'll win, right.
Speaker 2: And I'm not one of these people who's completely black pilled,
and it's like, you know, oh, nothing nothing ever changes
and we're you know, when we can you know.
Speaker 1: We are you black pilled because you come across very
black pilled that like there's no.
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, yeah, oh no. I think that
human beings were meant to live regionally, yea, And I
think that that's that's that's where I am. I can't
be black pilled. I can't be black pilled in my
personal life because I live around people who, if they
don't really think everything I do, but they get it.
They get it they where I live. People who talk
about politics, they really are only talking about politics and
how it's going to affect them. They don't want it
to affect them, right. They want to be able to
keep living their lives the way they live. And that's
not black pilled. I mean saying that that we're under
occupation and we probably might be under occupation for another
hundred years is just reality. It's just it's just reality.
The people who I make predictions every once in a
while because I want to feel like I have skin
in the game and i'm and I have no problem saying,
you know, I was wrong about that. But people who
were like telling me, like you can't support Trump. He
really Trump, you know, Trump's owned by owned by that
are the greatest ally in the Middle East and everything
like that. It'll just be infinitely better than Harris because
Trump is one of those guys that if there's enough
of a Twitter dust up, he could change his mind
on things, and you know, you're not going to get
that with Harris. So I don't think it's I don't
think I'm black pilled at all. I think that I
just see things the way they the way they are,
and I've set up and I'm seeking to set up
my life and teach my you know, my people. What
we're trying to teach people in the Old Glory in
the Old Glory Club, which is a fraternity that we formed,
is to form these regional groups where you're building out
and you're having each other's back, and you you know,
if things get really bad, you have people to rely upon.
You know. That's one thing that's the worst thing about
anarchists is I mean, what anarchists unite? What does that mean?
That sounds retarded? It's like how many how many? How
many libertarians that you do you know that are like
intentionally moving into the same area and seeking to make
that area more libertarian.
Speaker 1: The Free State of New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, that's it, and the problem and and what's
the what's the problem there? And they can't they all
voted for Harris, not not all the not the free Staters,
so and.
Speaker 3: A lot of those people moving there are more left
leaning libertarians as well.
Speaker 2: I don't think, I know, I think that I think
there are a lot of I think there are a
lot of family family people there who are family related,
but there are they're infiltrated by leftists there. They share
a southern border with with Massachusetts, some of the worst
fucking people on the planet. And when you don't have
a border, I mean, people are just going to flood
in there. And you can take over the you can
get rid of car insurance, and you can make it
so that bitcoin people can get paid in bitcoin and
I get tacks and stuff like that, and that's great
in the meantime, but if you're really but all it
takes is and this is what the people from Free
Talk Live found out, All it takes is the FBI
to put their eye on you and you're all going
to fucking jail. Yeah yeah, so, I mean it's I've
been to New Hampshire I've been to pork Fest. I
got COVID there and I couldn't frigging walk for three
weeks after that.
Speaker 4: Cod forkvest covid might be nasty. Dude, that sounds.
Speaker 1: God, that's worse than the dragonma variant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different Yeah, that's a different variant you
got up there. You got that anarchy covid or is something, dude, But.
Speaker 2: It's really nice. But you know, it goes back to
what I was talking about. You know what Robert Conquest
in the beginning. If something does not start out explicitly
right wing, it will eventually go left wing.
Speaker 1: I do think that's important. I think it's uh. I
think we could do better probably of distinguishing what left
and right means, because I think a lot of people,
you know, if you had asked me that question, I
would say, it's becomes more like a private property, like
an individual freedom, capitalism, that kind of thing. Like, I
think that's kind of where I would draw it. You
you kind of drew the lines more around cultural issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was more up and down for
Abertarians like you know.
Speaker 2: That is it's not a religion.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, it's not a religion. But neither is culture.
Speaker 2: It's a tool. It's a tool, but culture is a
real culture kind of is.
Speaker 3: But don't we see things more? Don't libertarians see things
things more as up and down, like the the the
more authoritarian to less authoritarian kind of kind of deal
here instead of the left to right because there there issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's but but that's but that's retarded too
because there are so many there are so many libertarians
that when you like start nailing it down, it's like, well,
parents really shouldn't have any say over their kids lives?
Speaker 1: What no, fuck you household?
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's like, you know, I'm like, you know,
some kind of hierarchy matters. And there are people who
there are people you do not want to have any
there are some people you would follow into battle, and
yes you would, you would risk your life for. And
there's other people you wouldn't cross the streets of piss.
Speaker 3: On No more like the government, like the sorry Tim,
but like the Free the People. I think this was
a video from Free the People and they have a
whole series on dictators, like actual dictators, and then they
put it in terms of that top to bottom, like
I understand you're saying dictator in the household, like I'm socialist,
communist with my family that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: No I'm not, it's mine, okay. Benevolent monarchy, that's what
we got going on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I mean what would you I mean,
who would you rather? Would you rather live in in
Germany in nineteen thirty five or the Soviet Union in
nineteen thirty five. Yeah, it's all just degrees of you.
Speaker 1: But if those are my options, that sounds blackpilled as fuck,
because we're all going to die at the end.
Speaker 2: This is terrible. Yeah. Well, at least you're at least
at least you're dying in a prosperous society. I mean,
and think about that too. What did you say, well,
just died it? Well, why did they? Why did some
any of them die in the end? Because the whole
world went to war with them? Yeah and they still
almost won.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the norm joke, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Germany declared war on the world twice and almost one Yeah, yeah,
kind of crazy. You're so you're not black pilled. I
don't know, man, Oh no, but that's okay. I'm not
going to tell you what you are.
Speaker 2: I do think you're I think you have to define
black pill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's all going to go to ship and
we're screwed either way, So what's the point of even trying.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I'm I don't think I'm screwed.
I mean, if we're not going to have there was
no BLM riots around here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not in my town, right. Yeah, And that's
kind of where I think your solution is correct. Like
I do think I've been saying for on the show
for a long time that I do think physical concentration
is probably more the answer than anything else. Is you
need to get around people that you agree with, and you,
like you said that you want around your family. If
you're coming around and saying that the child has more
opinion over their life than I do, Like, no, you're
the kind of person I don't want around my kids. Okay. Like, so,
I totally agree with you on the localism and all
that kind of stuff, the decentralized nature of what you're
saying too, about regionalism, about just you know, focusing on
what's around you and what you have the most direct
impact on.
Speaker 2: I agree with all of that.
Speaker 1: It just seems like I don't know, like like you
were saying, like there's nowhere else to go. I've always
heard that in the context of like there's nowhere else
to go outside of America once you like, we can't
just run to the next free country. I do want
to come back to that though about boukel a Uh
and Malay. But there's no free country to go to,
There's nowhere else to go. We're standing here, we're fighting here.
This is where we are, and you're not going to
fucking move me. And I'm going to get the people
around me to have the kind of culture and society
that I want to live in. I think that is
the answer. It just seems that like everyone else is
going to come after us. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We can also quote the Shaza Thomas the soul Okay, yeah,
yeahle that you know there is no you're not going
to get the perfect. Everything's trade offs. Yeah, yeah, everything
is a trade off. I agree. Yeah, you're never going
to get the perfect. The closest you can come to
perfect is under your roof. Yeah, is under your roof.
That's it. And maybe if you get the perfect under
your roof, that can put that can rub off onto
your neighbors. Maybe you can and it's not going to
be perfect. That's that's one of the other problems is
is like I don't expect things to be I don't
expect things to be orderly or perfect, especially when you
consider the situation that we're in. Yeah, you know, I
mean the situation we're in is like, Okay, well, we
have people constantly waging war upon us. You have the
the government that we're under is constantly what wages war
upon us every once in a while. Hopefully for the
next four years that won't happen. But then again, we
have the outside We don't know. That's the problem with
letting people to a country without knowing who they are,
and letting them in under like diplomatic stuff is you
can have we could be completely fucked because there are
enough people here who are willing to do violence against
us and take down our grid. You know. It's like
people don't remember that California had California had a station
taken down a few years ago, and then when they
looked into it, it was like they had built tunnels
under the friggin station and everything. And then now some
CIA cunt that I don't really believe, but they're saying
that it could have been North Korea who did it.
And I don't know why she will lie about North Korea,
and North Korea is just I mean, they can't even
set a missile off seventy miles everything.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Why would they do it? Yeah? Yeah, the grid I mean,
but the grid was taken was taken out right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can say people can make the argument, well,
I mean China doesn't want to fuck with us. Yeah,
China may not want to fuck with us, but there
could be people in there government that want to fuck
with us. And there's gonna be people in a government
over here that want to fuck with us, people in
a government over here that wan to fuck was. We
have people in our government who fucked with Ukraine and
Russia so bad that you've had a freaking near genocide
going on for you know, going on two years, three
years now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I do want to ask you about other countries,
but go ahead, Rome real quick.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say, you said kunt like
Louis c k And it just made me laugh really hard.
Speaker 1: So he does sound like Louis, right, if you do,
you kind of do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mexican j you.
Speaker 3: Do sound like Louis a little bit and you got
the goatee to match with the with the head. So yeah, no,
that's all I This is a productive conversation no matter
how dark it gets, because we are ultimately talking about solutions.
Speaker 4: Really, let's going on.
Speaker 2: That's that's all that matters. Yeah, and realistic solutions. That's this.
Give me solutions that are realistic, Give me solutions that
I can look at. I remember in twenty twenty one,
late twenty twenty one when there were companies in Florida
who were like, Okay, we're not going to allow anyone
to shop here stores. We're not only want to shop
here unlet's they have you know, vaccine passports. And DeSantis
was like, no, fuck you that you're not going to
be allowed to do that. And I was like, yes,
that's that's what a good governor does. And libertarians were like,
how can you It's a private company, bro, they can
do whatever they want. Well, kiss my ass. I mean
what I'm not gonna Why am I going to call
myself what you call yourself? You sound like a fucking idiot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I don't blame like more right
leaning Republicans and other people for not associating us, are
not associating with us because of shit like that. It's
like we you know, we you can't see the forest
through the trees, and you're in support of this fully
like authoritarian like corporatis situation going on with COVID, you know.
So yeah, no, I definitely see the issue that. But
for me, like you know, hate to bring it back
to the little hole like in you know, inside ball talk,
but like I love the Libertary Party. I want to
be a part of it in making it better, you know.
That's why I joined the National Committee and stuff like that.
You know, So, like what would you say to me?
Just do your best job on the National Committee because
none of it matters anyway, But like, just do your
best job in moving the goalpost, shaking your fist, trying
to get some publicity from people that matter, you know,
that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty obvious that the occupation regime, you know,
only wants two parties to exist. So what is the
point of the third party? You know, It's one of
the things. In late twenty twenty one, when I was
still hanging out with the Misas Caucus, and everything that
I was just like, this has to be okay. So
now you're going to take over a political party, a
political party that has no power or really has no say.
Angel has done a pretty good job of being able
to leverage some things. So I give it. I give
it to her. But still you're wouldn't you be better
off like becoming a like a lobby group, like focus
on one thing like that? Like what is it? Over
half the half the states now have constitutional carry and
they didn't have that what it was like five states
like fifteen years ago? That was that was an organization
most people don't never even heard of, the National Association
for Gun Rights. And how do they do it? They
lobbied the fuck. They were like, I'm gonna we're gonna
primary the fuck out of you. We're going to ring
your phone all from They badgered everybody and just yeah,
basically do it. So why are you not a lobby group?
I mean, if you're become for many lobby groups and
concentrate on one thing, one thing here and there, you know it.
Speaker 1: The National Association for Gun Rights. The acronym is NAGGER
and I love it. Yeah, Like when you were saying
that that's what I was thinking. I didn't want to
my buddy.
Speaker 2: My buddy Jose used to work for him, and we
used to laugh about that all.
Speaker 4: The time, annoy you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but it's one of those things where it's like, okay,
when you see that there are groups out there, when
you see that there's no room for a third party,
they're not going to let a third party have any power.
What what works, Look at what works and copy it.
Become an NGO, because I mean, do something where you're
concentrating on one thing and then have and then break
it off and concentrate on another thing and push these
things and just go. And that's relating. You can make
things work. Yeah, and be relentless. I mean, I mean,
like Nagger. The way they did it was they were relentless.
Speaker 1: To be careful. We've crossed the line way too many times.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even like that word. I mean,
coolly is so much better coolly.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you gave me some pretty good ones.
Speaker 2: The Jeets.
Speaker 1: You keep saying that the street shitters, though.
Speaker 4: At one point you said jets.
Speaker 3: At one point you said jeets, and then you said
GDP and I was like, gets DP and yeah.
Speaker 2: No, God damn it, we important enough of them, are GDP.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, g d P.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well one of the I want to kind of
move to, like foreign policy a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about solutions, about a guy that's
taking practical solutions. You're talking, Yeah, well, here's a guy
that I think is doing right, and that's Malay you
were mentioning earlier. I don't know, I think Malay's got
it right. And I was telling my wife, I was like, look,
if this ship keeps going for like another couple of years,
so we might be moving argent. I don't know, this
seems like the way to go. But he got into
a big spat with Hoppa, of all people, you mentioned
him a couple of times, he got in a big spat,
but Haapa, and you know, Malay basically took the the
angle like he's a libtard. The guy's just fucking all
in his philosophy of books and doesn't understand how the
real world works. And I feel like that's what you've
been saying about libertarians the whole time too. And I
don't disagree with you. I'm just trying to, you know,
use that the springboard here. What they're disagreeing about someone
else can I All I saw was the yeah, go ahead,
Well yeah.
Speaker 2: Hopa can talk about what he can lay out a
whole bunch of things. But I'm pretty positive it's about
his Zionism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right, Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, I
don't remember Malay.
Speaker 2: Sent I think fifty to sixty percent of the gold
of Argentina's gold to the City of London, to the
Rothschilds and that is not you know, my friend Tom
la Wongo said, well, I think he did that because
they're trying to get the Falkland Islands back. They just
discovered another oil reserve on the Falkland Islands. They're not
getting it back from England. Okay, and plus the city
you know, all right, let me move past that. The
City of London is there's been this thing where they've
been weakened over the past few years. I don't want
to get into this because it'll be a whole different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nutrail, but according to Groc, you know, that just
follows everything on X But you know, he says the
GROC was to I asked Groc, what is the dispute
between Malay and Happa. He says it's not that he
says it's intellectual property is what the debate became all
about the public the debate. The debate became particularly public
when Malay criticized Hoppa's views on intellectual property during various
speeches and interviews, advocating for a complete abolition of IP laws.
Hoppa responded by defending this position in his academic circles
through his writings, emphasizing the importance of property rights in
all forms to ensure a just society. And so that's
kind of, oh my god, you want to talk about
some nerd shit that is that is very that's very Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like Stefan Consela, But damn, it's just that one thing,
you know. Well, I mean, yeah, that's the only problem
I have with Malay is a lot of the people
who financed him more. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he was back in the state. The two
things I saw that he did I didn't like back
in the State of Israel and saying like we're your greatest, ally,
your second greatest whatever, you know, but doing that whole dance.
And then the second part was we're going to tie
our currency to the USD like you.
Speaker 2: Don't well that that didn't bother me as much as
the first place he went to was to the tunnel.
Speaker 4: Dreeping in Brooklyn, Oh.
Speaker 2: He went he literally went to the hubbad and and
visited the tunnel the remember the tunne Jews from the
beginning of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: How much of that is he doesn't get assassinated?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, put it this way, it's the
person who is going to be well, all right, And
I think Malay is doing a good from everything I
can see everything I've heard, he's been doing a good job.
He's helped the economy. Okay, here's another problem I have. Okay,
so is he going to be? Is he president for life?
Speaker 1: No, That's why I said, it's got to be like
four or five more years. He's got to get re elected.
People got to say they want more.
Speaker 2: And I think they will re elect them. And I
think he has to be president for life unless he's
grooming someone specifically to take his place. Because this is
what I know about. This is what I know about people,
especially people in Latin culture and Latin culture, people are
very very prone to we need to help the poor,
we need to help our poorer brothers. And you know,
there was a reason why Perne was so popular in
Argentina because he was mixing Marxism with fascism and I
was all over the place. But if he if you're
doing this in a democracy where somebody who's completely opposed
to you gets elected and just dismantles everything you've done,
I mean, that's what other thing about Trump. Trump's going
to go in here, He's he could have executive orders
that like, dismantle forty percent of the government on the
first day. I'm hoping, I'm hoping. But what happens within
what happens the next person gets elected because Americans have
this habit, and especially with all these fucking you know,
you have Jeet Vasion. You know who's gonna who says
in twenty twenty eight, they're not going to vote for
Josh Shapiro or Gavin Newsom and everything goes back to
the way it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm making predictions. I already said I
think Democrats are going to win twenty twenty eight, that
that's going to be the number one goal is out
doing everything Trump did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's what happened. You know, Trump
did some really did some good things in his first term.
I mean, especially the the on the border. Yeah, and
that was all this stuff was overturned the first day. So,
I mean, I want to believe bou Kelly. It seems
to me is setting himself up for dictator for life.
And I have no problem with that. You know, I'm
you know, I read Hapa, I've read Democracy the Guy
that Failed Twice. What I got out of it was, yeah,
I get you get into the later chapters. You're talking
about a narco capitalism is the way we can have
a narco capitalism. Great, that's fine. What I got out
of it was the the best societies always had one
person in charge, making the decisions, and you knew who's
head to chop off if things got bad. Yeah, I
mean I want I want one person in charge. I
want one person who makes the decisions, has a you know,
an elite group around him, wants the best people and
has and has his bet has his people, is part
of the people, is part of that culture. Is not
a foreigner. I'm sorry, Josh Shapiro is not an American.
He'll never be an American. He has he has loyalty
to another country. I'm sorry. If you have loyalty to
another country, you cannot be You're not an American. You're
not even an American citizen as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: I saw you bring yourself in other places. Do you
think Trump is American first?
Speaker 2: I think he is, but I don't know that his
idea of what America is on what mine is match. Okay, yeah,
because I think he think he thinks that anybody can
become an American and in in certain you know, when
my when my there's a reason why my first my
first name isn't Pedro because my dad wanted me to
be a fucking American. There's a reason we didn't speak
Spanish in the house because my dad wanted me to
be a fucking American. That's somebody who is like, we're
p this is this is our country.
Speaker 1: Was your father an immigrant? I don't mean to get
too personal, but.
Speaker 2: I mean he was. He was born he came here
when he was six months old from Puerto Rico, but
he was born an American citizen. So you know, it's
like his father was born in Americans and his father
before him was born an American citizen.
Speaker 1: So Rob got where I was going with that hit
him out.
Speaker 2: But it's you know, it's not your Trump. I look
at a nation as its people. Trump's look. Trump looks
at a nation as its people. But he thinks that
anyone is a possibility that anyone could be become an American,
And there is a possibility that somebody can come here
and they have a culture bearing, they have the ability
to be culture bearing for our culture. You know, it
is related to our culture. But when you're just bringing
people here on H one, b V says where they're
here to make money, and then if they have a
kid here, that kid becomes I mean, what the guarantee
you're pretty much guaranteed that that person is not going
to be the VAC is not an American. VAC thinks
Indians are better than Americans. He said it in that tweet.
I'm sorry, that is the only way to interpret that tweet.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't this particular claim has merit. But
is it, like, is it un American to say that
the Kenyons can run faster than us? I don't know,
Like if there, if they truly are better, then it
is sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's perfectly fine. That doesn't mean I want them
living next to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true, Yeah, Well I I also want to
have to.
Speaker 2: We don't have to win the hundred The United States
does not have to win the hundred meter dash in
the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 2: I agree, we can. We can finish last. We can
finish last and be a coherent culture where people get
to live and live prosperously and feel like they're a
part of something.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I do think culture is important.
Speaker 3: Like Sweden, we don't come in first in the Olympics
all the time, but we have a very very nice country,
very very nice country. We leave our babies outside, no
one thinks them.
Speaker 2: And that And that's another thing. If they were arguing,
if there was some argument for oh well we need
these Swedes, and we need these Germans and we need
these too, but it's all these people who live in
a culture of shit. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: After Game on New Year's Eve proved that, So go ahead.
Uh last thing I wanted to ask you, I told
you before the show I was gonna ask you about this.
I think I found the perfect way to frame it.
How do you feel about Trump's American expansionism? About uh,
you know, wanting to take over Greenland, wanting to take
over the Panama Canal, wanting to annex Canada and by
military means if necessary. Do you to me that doesn't
say America? First, He's like, that's some fuck the Panama Canal.
I kind of understand that, right. Our blood and sweat
and tears and everything went into that. We built that thing,
and then we gave it up for a dollar because
Jimmy Carter sucks fucking dick. That happened, okay, I think.
And then Panama Canal also, you know, just south of
the border, it's very important trade route. You know, we
invested a lot into that. I could see an argument
for that. I don't want fucking Canada, and I don't
care about Greenland.
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 1: What's your take on those things?
Speaker 2: I think that anybody who's been paying attention to Trump
for the last ten to twenty years knows he just
says shit. Yeah, he just says.
Speaker 4: Shit, posturing so you can get a better deal.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, Why would yeah, why would you want Greenland mineral
deposits is the only reason why would you say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He says military advantage, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only military advantage you to look at is if
Russia is you know, I've heard recently that Russia has
a lot of cutters in the in the north in
the North Sea, and then they're basically taking control of that. Yeah,
they're basically taking control of the North Sea. And that
could be that could be one of the reasons. Why
is because if you have Greenland, then you can stop
that twist or you can be like, hey know, you're
encroaching territory here. But I mean, I don't I don't
think that that. Yeah, and you know, Russia could also
One of the things he could do is I mean
it could basically walk right over the cap into Canada.
So and I'm not saying that they would be invading,
but I'm saying that they could go in there and
they could start mineral you know, drilling and doing things
without you know, without permission. I mean, we've had the
slant drawing. I mean the freaking Kowaiti. You know, Iraq
War one was all over encroachment of on oil on oilfield,
slant drilling oil fields. So I mean, put it this way,
when Trump starts talking like that, that's just entertainment to me.
I just think it's hilarious. I read it to my wife.
My wife laughs her ass off because we just know
that this is this isn't gonna happen. First of all,
Canada is their culture in many ways is more fucked
than ours. I mean, there have been assassination, there have
been Indian the Indian government has sent Indians there to
assassinate other Indians.
Speaker 1: I mean, Canada is like, it's just their culture.
Speaker 2: Let him do it in Canada. And and and it's
like it's like we don't need that here. I mean,
we should be building a wall to keep those fucking
maple monkeys out on the on the north border.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, there's no threat from up there, only
down south. Uh yeah. I you know, Lighton brought this
up while he was on our show at one point,
and he was saying, you know, Russia is only two
miles from Alaska, Like it is kind of right next door.
You don't think about it because it's all the way
up there. No one cares about it.
Speaker 3: But but they are our neighbors. They are our neighbors
in some sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think I think Trump doesn't even want war
with Russia really, So it's like why would he want
green Like if he actually sees himself ending this whole conflict.
Then Greenland's not even a thing for him.
Speaker 4: In his head.
Speaker 1: Well, i'll ve I mean, you can have whatever lest
thought you want to have. But I guess I want
to ask you first hundred days, anything good get accomplished?
First year? What do you what do you like? What
kind of what kind of predictions or expectations do you
have going into this? You were saying before, like, if
anything good happens, that'll be a win. You know, you
know you don't expect much. But if anything happens, that's good.
What are you most expecting?
Speaker 2: Like what? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Give us some give us a bold prediction from peak
with notice, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if there's a bold prediction. I just want
the markets to go through the roof.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I want to make some money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to make money.
Speaker 4: Is making money here? That's what we need to do.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what if if you have money to invest,
I'm not don't take my advice on anything. I'm fucking retarded. Okay,
not financially means yeah, this is not financial advice. Try
to make some money, find some good investments. I would
stay away from gold. I would stay away from silver.
They're they're pretty much peaked. I don't see them going
going up anymore. But you know, there are some stocks
out there, you know, trying to telling me I'm going broke.
That's what he's telling me right now. No, no, no,
I mean, dude, I have I have a ton too,
so yeah, I have a ton of that too. But
the Yeah, that's what I would concentrate on. That's what
I'm hoping you hope to see you start seeing some deportations, especially,
you know, maybe Homan starts with the people he thinks
are the most violent, have criminal records in other countries. Yeah, yeah,
do that, which they also build try to build upon that,
which because they're short.
Speaker 1: No man, Hey, hey Pete, where can people find more?
We'd love to have you back on in a couple
of months, see.
Speaker 2: How Yeah, oh yeah, I would love to come back
on one hundred days would be awesome. Where can people
find show you? Can you show any podcastcher Pete? Substack
dot com. Uh, the Old Glory Club. That's my guys.
Check out our sub stack and we stream on YouTube
and on Twitter. I don't call it next because I'm
not nasty. We do that every Thursday night at eight
Eastern and voles persona who's in here, he's always in
the chat there and anyone who we're gonna be streaming
on Thursday, and we have an awesome time and no
one walks away from that disappointed. Some people may be
get frustrated because we can be we can be assholes,
but it's we have a lot of guys who have
are very very well versed on a lot of different topics.
So like if there's a naval thing, we have a
couple of guys for former navy who come on and
we have experts on pretty much everything. So you know,
if there's something specific that happened that week, you're going
to get a good take on the old Glory Club scream.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, man, I'm gonna check it out. It sounds
like an interesting time. Rob. You gotta anything you want
to wrap us up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, I just want to say Pete, thanks for coming
on again. I listened to you on Freeman Beyond the
Wall like years ago. Big fan, So we'll happen you
on great conversation.
Speaker 4: Find me.
Speaker 3: If you're here for Pete and you like you like
this podcast, follow us at Real Swamp Cast and follow
my comedy. If you like stand up comedy, follow R
Vincent v I NS Comedy and uh yeah, I got
some shows coming up. I got Valentine's Day. I'll be
in Jacksonville, North Carolina. I got booked my first flight
out of town show, so that's gonna be cool. And
I got a show here in Pensacola on the seventeenth.
So just following a page and we got some good
things coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely go check out Pete. Pete r Cononez on
X Substack is all of his website. Everything is down
in the description down below, so you guys can go
find all that if you don't know them already. Most
of you guys are here because of Pete. Thank you
guys for coming to hang out. We're gonna go play
some poker and hang out at Real Swampcast everywhere Real
swampcast dot com. Love you guys. We'll see you later.
Sevens in the chat. Yeah all right,