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It's gonna be very exciting to share a conversation with
you because you and I walk such the same street
and it's like, it's like, Wow, we need to get
more of us together to bring forward a journey, a path,
something where people aren't just sitting there just going to
chat GPT to locate what they think is the right journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that AI is going to
help us on our journey. Boy, it might help us
with technology, but you know, we don't need more technology
and we need more awareness.
Speaker 1: Isn't that truth? How did you find your awareness path?
And what was it that took place where all of
a sudden you started realizing, Oh wait a second, there's
something much bigger than me here.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's been happening since I was a child. I
was raised in metaphysics and the sciences and so forth,
and study a lot. It's really been my life's journey
to bring this forth. My first book was about nuclear war,
and then this book is about peace. But it's a structure,
it's not just a philosophy, So there's a path here.
This is a self help book for the species.
Speaker 1: Meaning one brick at a time, as my master in
martial arts would say, if you're going to take that
mountain down, you got to do one rock at a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we better do several at a time.
What we're not going But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you started this book long before where we
presently stand today. But then again, if you hear some speeches,
this has been going on for forty seven plus years
and even longer.
Speaker 2: Well, but I'm just a messenger, and this message has
been given by a lot of people throughout history. Yeah, Christ, Buddha, Mahatma, Gandhi,
Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan Alsi'm in Abraham Lincoln, and I'm
not comparing myself to them. I'm comparing the message to theirs.
It's the same message. It's the same message now worded
in today's language, but it's the same message. And there's
thousands of messengers out there today of that caliber. But
there's eight point four billion. We're approaching a point four
billion people on the planet, and we got some crises
we're facing, and there's a lot of principles involve involved
here in an addictive cycle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you speak of that addictive cycle, is
that because we are living in a false world in
the way that we can just go on to social
media and pretend and all of a sudden we just
incorporated our lives.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not yet aware of who we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you that's so true.
Speaker 2: And once we realize that, then these other problems will
get solved. So our goal of the book is just
part of the foundation of a timefrehumanity dot orgon. And
I don't know if you if the publicists sent you
the book, or if you had a chance to look
at it or anything, but you know, our goal and
the foundation is to unite humanity in order to save
us from ourselves, because basically, you know, we've got we've
been at in a worldwide state of war for ten
thousand years. Yes, and you know, we're collapsing the ecosystem.
It's not just global warming. We're poisoning the air and
water and planet about a thousand times the natural raid.
So we've got things like the militarization of the earth,
an impending worldwide water crisis, things like that. We're trying
to solve those while we're killing each other. It's like
trying to have a house party while the house is
on fire.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Then and of course denying the house is on fire
at the same time. So you know, we kind of
have this backwards.
Speaker 1: And isn't that odd that we have We're playing that
game only because I mean, I'm reminded of what happened
to us here in Carolina yesterday with this passing storm,
where there are still people without electricity. I had a
tree that fell on my house. And you sit there
and you go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened here?
And you're going, wait a second, this is nature doing
what nature does. Don't humanize everything. And sometimes I think
that's our fault, is that our egos, our illusions, our
beliefs are getting in the way.
Speaker 2: Oh, we do have some misunderstanding of our role in
our own problems. People love to blame other people for
their problems, but the reality is we even as individuals,
we tend to cause most of our own problems ourselves.
We just kind of like to blame other people because
it makes us feel better.
Speaker 1: That's so true. But you know, one of the things
that you cover though, if there is fear and separation,
does that always lead to violence? Because I know how
people are reacting to higher prices right now. Because one
of my essential jobs only because I just want to
be with people. I just love studying people. So I
took up a job at a grocery store. You can't
get any more real than a grocery store. And so
that's why I think your book is so important to
my heart. It's helping me understand where people might be
and how we can plant one word and maybe change
their life in a positive way.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that this book and the foundation and
the reason you would pursue a path like this is
because it will give humanity hope. And we face a
number of challenges, but I think one of them that
we don't yet realize is we're suffering from a lack
of joy. And when you eliminate that from life, boy,
then you know you're going down the wrong path. We
continue to cry, you know, in our soul for salvation,
and yet we don't even realize it's in our own hands.
It's waiting for us. We're waiting for it. It's waiting
for us. We have Humanity has to open its heart.
Logic won't solve the problem. We have to open our heart.
It's the only way we're going to survive.
Speaker 1: Don't you think though, that we are living a life
of My mom used to say all the time, is
that we're trying to just keep up with the Joneses.
I think we have passed the Joneses and we're seeking
something even higher.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we're kind of lost. We've lost our way,
and I think humanity and various cultures can sense that
we're spinning out of control, and there is a convergence
starting to happen. If we don't abort, that will be okay.
But there's still an element of free choice, and nobody's
going to stop us from destroying ourselves except us.
Speaker 1: Well, you bring up something here inside the pages that really,
it's an eye opener. It's also a conversation starter. Reconnect
and compassion. We see the evidence of a reconnection taking place.
But what we rarely find on page one of any
social media or even newspaper the compassion. We're not hearing
about the compassion. We'll hear about the potential of reconnection,
but we're not seeing the compassion. And in your pages
you're saying we need them both.
Speaker 2: Well, we do, and you know, compassion alone would probably
save humanity. But the best definition I've ever heard of
civilization is that it's the process of learning to be kind.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: That's civilism. That's a definition of civilization. M hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know how people are kind here, I'm going
to give you a tip today, you know, that's that's
what It's one of the things when people win at
the lottery, they think that, you know, giving me an
extra five dollars bills is going to give them another
opportunity to win. I'm going down. No, no, you keep this.
You may need somebody on that, or you may meet
them out on the street one day that needs that
five dollars bill. Just give that to them, don't give
it to me. But because I always feel like that.
Don't buy your happiness with me? Is that wrong in
thinking like that?
Speaker 2: Well, certainly there's my Giving something to someone is certainly
a form of kindness, and it might make you feel better,
and it might actually do some good. But we need
to change our consciousness. As Einstein knew, you can't solve
problems from the same level of consciousness that created them.
You have to raise your consciousness to solve those problems.
Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Kenneth
Callison coming up next. The name of his book, The
Way to World Peace an idea whose time has come.
A door is open. Let's do the talk, right, Kenneth Kylison.
Kenneth Callison is back. You say that peace is in
alignment with humanity's deeper nature. I love the way you
present that because it gives us kind of a new
definition of what piece is. We just think that if
I think peace and I talk piece and I write
a piece, that piece will happen. No, it goes deeper
into our nature.
Speaker 2: Well, peace needs to be run. War is run as
a business. Oh, yes, you're right, very much of a business,
very profitable business. But we need to run peace as
a business, the same effort at the same marketing, the
same budgets, the same focus. Peace needs to be run
as a business.
Speaker 1: But aren't they doing that within the ranks of church,
because but then again, you know, it's I don't know,
I don't know how to react to that in the
way of that church is trying. But we can't get
businesses to try with churches unless there's something in it
for the business.
Speaker 2: Well, in my opinion, and religion is supposed to heal
and encourage and give people hope. But unfortunately, over the centuries,
really organized religion has become the commercialization of spirituality. So
we've commercialized our spirituality through religion.
Speaker 1: You talked about buying happiness. I mean, it's like I
gave my tithing today, I did well, I did good. Okay,
here we are, and all of a sudden it's not
going well.
Speaker 2: Well. I think there needs to be a change in
our effort, our awareness, our logic, our approach, our belief
in ourselves. Humanity doesn't value itself, so when a species
doesn't have an understanding of its own value, then it
will act out of confusion.
Speaker 1: I so love where you're going with this book, because
it is a conversation starter. And the thing is is
that you can go and try to get something like
this started with a neighbor or a coworker or a friend,
and nobody knows what's going on. But yet when you
dive into your book, it gives us that opportunity of,
oh my god, I'm not alone. This guy is speaking
something that I am feeling deep inside my thought process.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it has touched and it's interesting. People
that are politically liberal think it's a liberal work, and
people that are conservative think it's a conservative work. So true,
it's just really interesting. I think I just struck a
nerve as all. But yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Where do you take it from here now, Kenneth in
the way of growing it forward?
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's really, in many ways a revolution wrapped
within a peace movement.
Speaker 1: Oh, peace movement in the way of bringing people together,
because I mean, I just talked with the guy last
week that he's one of those people that hires others
to join him in protests, and it's like, ah, this
isn't what I learned back in the sixties and seventies
when it came to protests. But then again, he proved
me wrong saying yes, they did pay people to go
to these protests. I'm going, oh my god, so is it?
So what is that peaceful path that we take like
a Moses walking across the desert floor.
Speaker 2: Well, we do have to at least become educated, Then
we have to become empowered. Then we have to take action.
So there are steps in this process. I don't know
if you read the chapter on the Venturi, but all
of what has happened before this is just noise. It's
really not. We do tend to get fixated on the past,
but that's not where the secrets are. It's where we're going.
And we do tend to get locked into patterns of
revenge and retribution. And it's not those who forget the
past that are condemned to repeat it. It's those who
can't forget the past that are condemned to repeat it.
Speaker 1: So how does that make you feel that you're putting
words out here that are going to change people's lives?
I mean, I mean, you really have planted something here
that is a step in a direction that people want
to talk about and haven't been because we've shut ourselves
up in this little world where we think that we've
got self comfort.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interviews like this. I just got a great
review from Literary Titan, who was spot on on their analysis.
It's not that it was positive, it's they understood. So
this kind of feedback does help keep the ball moving forward.
So that's a good thing. It is.
Speaker 1: It is Wow. Where can people go to find out
more about you, Kenneth, because I want them to really
jump on your path and give you a lot of
attention and a lot of love.
Speaker 2: Well, any the books sold anywhere, Amazon, the Barnes, Noble,
and so forth. Of course on the internet. But I'll
be speaking as this rolls out. You know, get to
the website, which is a time for Humanity dot org,
and at least subscribe to the newsletter and then you'll
at least keep up and that'll show you as we
progress how to get more involved.
Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show in the
future because this can't be a one time only conversation,
because I do see your personal growth and I want
to help measure it in the way of just keep
pushing this word forward.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it'll reach a certain inertia, reach a
tipping point, and then that's where it'll get excited.
Speaker 1: AH like your attitude.
Speaker 2: I love it man.
Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2: Okay, mister Kenneth Well, get a