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It's gonna be very exciting to share a conversation with

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you because you and I walk such the same street

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that AI is going to

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help us on our journey. Boy, it might help us

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with technology, but you know, we don't need more technology

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and we need more awareness.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that truth? How did you find your awareness path?

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And what was it that took place where all of

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a sudden you started realizing, Oh wait a second, there's

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something much bigger than me here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's been happening since I was a child. I

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was raised in metaphysics and the sciences and so forth,

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and study a lot. It's really been my life's journey

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to bring this forth. My first book was about nuclear war,

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and then this book is about peace. But it's a structure,

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it's not just a philosophy, So there's a path here.

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This is a self help book for the species.

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Speaker 1: Meaning one brick at a time, as my master in

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martial arts would say, if you're going to take that

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mountain down, you got to do one rock at a time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we better do several at a time.

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What we're not going But.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you started this book long before where we

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presently stand today. But then again, if you hear some speeches,

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this has been going on for forty seven plus years

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and even longer.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I'm just a messenger, and this message has

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been given by a lot of people throughout history. Yeah, Christ, Buddha, Mahatma, Gandhi,

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Albert Einstein, Carl Sagan Alsi'm in Abraham Lincoln, and I'm

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not comparing myself to them. I'm comparing the message to theirs.

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It's the same message. It's the same message now worded

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in today's language, but it's the same message. And there's

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thousands of messengers out there today of that caliber. But

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there's eight point four billion. We're approaching a point four

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billion people on the planet, and we got some crises

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we're facing, and there's a lot of principles involve involved

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here in an addictive cycle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and you speak of that addictive cycle, is

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that because we are living in a false world in

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the way that we can just go on to social

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media and pretend and all of a sudden we just

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incorporated our lives.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not yet aware of who we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you that's so true.

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Speaker 2: And once we realize that, then these other problems will

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get solved. So our goal of the book is just

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part of the foundation of a timefrehumanity dot orgon. And

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I don't know if you if the publicists sent you

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the book, or if you had a chance to look

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at it or anything, but you know, our goal and

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the foundation is to unite humanity in order to save

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us from ourselves, because basically, you know, we've got we've

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been at in a worldwide state of war for ten

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thousand years. Yes, and you know, we're collapsing the ecosystem.

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water and planet about a thousand times the natural raid.

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an impending worldwide water crisis, things like that. We're trying

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to solve those while we're killing each other. It's like

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trying to have a house party while the house is

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Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Then and of course denying the house is on fire

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at the same time. So you know, we kind of

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Speaker 1: And isn't that odd that we have We're playing that

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game only because I mean, I'm reminded of what happened

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where there are still people without electricity. I had a

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tree that fell on my house. And you sit there

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and you go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened here?

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our own problems. People love to blame other people for

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Speaker 1: That's so true. But you know, one of the things

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that you cover though, if there is fear and separation,

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does that always lead to violence? Because I know how

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people are reacting to higher prices right now. Because one

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of my essential jobs only because I just want to

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be with people. I just love studying people. So I

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get any more real than a grocery store. And so

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that's why I think your book is so important to

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my heart. It's helping me understand where people might be

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and how we can plant one word and maybe change

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their life in a positive way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that this book and the foundation and

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the reason you would pursue a path like this is

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because it will give humanity hope. And we face a

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we don't yet realize is we're suffering from a lack

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of joy. And when you eliminate that from life, boy,

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then you know you're going down the wrong path. We

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continue to cry, you know, in our soul for salvation,

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and yet we don't even realize it's in our own hands.

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It's waiting for us. We're waiting for it. It's waiting

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for us. We have Humanity has to open its heart.

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Logic won't solve the problem. We have to open our heart.

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It's the only way we're going to survive.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think though, that we are living a life

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of My mom used to say all the time, is

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that we're trying to just keep up with the Joneses.

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I think we have passed the Joneses and we're seeking

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're kind of lost. We've lost our way,

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and I think humanity and various cultures can sense that

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we're spinning out of control, and there is a convergence

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starting to happen. If we don't abort, that will be okay.

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going to stop us from destroying ourselves except us.

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Speaker 1: Well, you bring up something here inside the pages that really,

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it's an eye opener. It's also a conversation starter. Reconnect

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and compassion. We see the evidence of a reconnection taking place.

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social media or even newspaper the compassion. We're not hearing

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about the compassion. We'll hear about the potential of reconnection,

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but we're not seeing the compassion. And in your pages

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you're saying we need them both.

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Speaker 2: Well, we do, and you know, compassion alone would probably

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save humanity. But the best definition I've ever heard of

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civilization is that it's the process of learning to be kind.

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Speaker 1: Hmm.

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Speaker 2: That's civilism. That's a definition of civilization. M hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know how people are kind here, I'm going

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to give you a tip today, you know, that's that's

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what It's one of the things when people win at

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the lottery, they think that, you know, giving me an

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extra five dollars bills is going to give them another

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opportunity to win. I'm going down. No, no, you keep this.

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them out on the street one day that needs that

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five dollars bill. Just give that to them, don't give

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it to me. But because I always feel like that.

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Don't buy your happiness with me? Is that wrong in

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thinking like that?

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Speaker 2: Well, certainly there's my Giving something to someone is certainly

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a form of kindness, and it might make you feel better,

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and it might actually do some good. But we need

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to change our consciousness. As Einstein knew, you can't solve

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problems from the same level of consciousness that created them.

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You have to raise your consciousness to solve those problems.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Kenneth

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Callison coming up next. The name of his book, The

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Way to World Peace an idea whose time has come.

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A door is open. Let's do the talk, right, Kenneth Kylison.

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Kenneth Callison is back. You say that peace is in

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alignment with humanity's deeper nature. I love the way you

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present that because it gives us kind of a new

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definition of what piece is. We just think that if

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I think peace and I talk piece and I write

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a piece, that piece will happen. No, it goes deeper

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into our nature.

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Speaker 2: Well, peace needs to be run. War is run as

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a business. Oh, yes, you're right, very much of a business,

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very profitable business. But we need to run peace as

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a business, the same effort at the same marketing, the

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same budgets, the same focus. Peace needs to be run

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Speaker 1: But aren't they doing that within the ranks of church,

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way of that church is trying. But we can't get

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Speaker 2: Well, in my opinion, and religion is supposed to heal

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Speaker 1: You talked about buying happiness. I mean, it's like I

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gave my tithing today, I did well, I did good. Okay,

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here we are, and all of a sudden it's not

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Speaker 2: Well. I think there needs to be a change in

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our effort, our awareness, our logic, our approach, our belief

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in ourselves. Humanity doesn't value itself, so when a species

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it is a conversation starter. And the thing is is

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that you can go and try to get something like

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this started with a neighbor or a coworker or a friend,

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and nobody knows what's going on. But yet when you

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it has touched and it's interesting. People

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it's just really interesting. I think I just struck a

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Speaker 1: Where do you take it from here now, Kenneth in

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the way of growing it forward?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's really, in many ways a revolution wrapped

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Speaker 1: Oh, peace movement in the way of bringing people together,

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week that he's one of those people that hires others

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to join him in protests, and it's like, ah, this

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when it came to protests. But then again, he proved

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to these protests. I'm going, oh my god, so is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, we do have to at least become educated, Then

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we have to become empowered. Then we have to take action.

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revenge and retribution. And it's not those who forget the

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past that are condemned to repeat it. It's those who

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Speaker 1: So how does that make you feel that you're putting

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words out here that are going to change people's lives?

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I mean, I mean, you really have planted something here

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that is a step in a direction that people want

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to talk about and haven't been because we've shut ourselves

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up in this little world where we think that we've

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got self comfort.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interviews like this. I just got a great

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review from Literary Titan, who was spot on on their analysis.

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It's not that it was positive, it's they understood. So

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this kind of feedback does help keep the ball moving forward.

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So that's a good thing. It is.

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Speaker 1: It is Wow. Where can people go to find out

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more about you, Kenneth, because I want them to really

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jump on your path and give you a lot of

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attention and a lot of love.

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Speaker 2: Well, any the books sold anywhere, Amazon, the Barnes, Noble,

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and so forth. Of course on the internet. But I'll

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be speaking as this rolls out. You know, get to

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the website, which is a time for Humanity dot org,

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and at least subscribe to the newsletter and then you'll

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at least keep up and that'll show you as we

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progress how to get more involved.

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Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show in the

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future because this can't be a one time only conversation,

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because I do see your personal growth and I want

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to help measure it in the way of just keep

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pushing this word forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it'll reach a certain inertia, reach a

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tipping point, and then that's where it'll get excited.

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Speaker 1: AH like your attitude.

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Speaker 2: I love it man.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, mister Kenneth Well, get a