WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.319 What if the government used psychics to spy on secret 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:05.919 bases and then actually found them? What if remote viewing, 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:10.400 MK ultra and UFOs weren't just fringe conspiracy theories, but 4 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:14.519 part of an ongoing intelligence operation cloaked in disinformation and 5 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.160 occult rituals. I sat down with the man Rider Lee 6 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.960 to expose the real history of Project Stargate, the psychic spies, 7 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:24.679 and how alien disclosure might just be government word magic. 8 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:25.760 This one's wild. 9 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:26.600 Don't listen. 10 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:34.039 So, as you know, I got a special guest today, 11 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:36.200 so I don't want to keep you too long, but 12 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:39.520 we're going to get into Ryder Lee's experience and research 13 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.679 of the Stargate project. We're going to talk about the 14 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:47.039 secrets of this US military program that was about gathering 15 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:52.679 intelligence through remote viewing and psychic abilities, possibly affiliated with 16 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.039 MK ultra type experiments. You know, I went through Stanford 17 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.640 Research Institute, So we talked about some of the documents 18 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.759 that this is based upon, his evidence, the subjects and 19 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.840 he interviewed that we're actually doing the remote viewing and 20 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.239 various names. You're gonna recognize how put off with his 21 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.200 Big Joe Rogan appearance recently, Pat Price Ingo Swan Russell 22 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.359 targ and we're gonna discuss how we're what we're doing 23 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:17.439 actually works and if alien disclosure is part of this movement. 24 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:20.480 My man's got a wealth of knowledge. He is the 25 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.760 host of Raised by Giants podcast and I'm gonna put 26 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:26.079 his link tree in linked in the show notes right 27 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.319 so you can check out his podcast. I just made 28 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:31.680 an appearance on there recently, so you can check that 29 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.400 out for more. And then also he's a film producer. 30 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:36.840 I interviewed him and Jay Widner because they did this 31 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.239 awesome Cooper's Odyssey three Clockwork Shining. 32 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:43.680 I interviewed them. Was it a couple of months ago now? 33 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:46.760 And that's also a fascinating listen, So scroll back on 34 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:50.239 your podcast feed to find that for more. Also in 35 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.120 this interview, we are discussing some stuff that you can 36 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.280 see on the screen. So if you want to see 37 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:57.920 the video version of this show, I'm gonna upload it 38 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.280 to my free feed video feeds for people who aren't 39 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.680 on the Tier two supporter feeds that get a dad 40 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.000 free and early access and all that, so you can 41 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.400 check out the video version. Go to my link tree. 42 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:12.680 It's allmlinks dot com. Slash Isaac W two a's for 43 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.840 double awesome, and you can find the link to my rumble, 44 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:23.039 my now third growing YouTube channel and Spotify. I put 45 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.800 it on Spotify as well, so you can check out 46 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.800 the video version and kind of follow along with what 47 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:30.400 we're talking about. So, without further ado, here's the great 48 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.319 Rider Lee. The biggest question in all of our human 49 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.360 existence is whether or not we're alon. So today I 50 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.800 brought on a returning champ to this podcast. He's the 51 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.000 director of a Clockwork Shine in Kuber's Odyssey three and 52 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.800 JFKX Solving the Crime of the Century, collaborating with the 53 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.479 Great Jay Widner, and he's the host and producer of 54 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.319 Raised by Giants podcast. Today, he's our local expert on 55 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:56.120 unpacking this strange realm of intelligence agencies using occult methods 56 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.919 to make contact with alien entities. His name is Ryder 57 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.280 Lee needs Back to Drip Knowledge. Welcome back to a cult, 58 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:02.800 symbolism and pop culture writer. 59 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:05.639 What's going on? As I thanks so much for having 60 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.879 me back on, really appreciate it, and I'm looking forward 61 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.520 to diving into this topic, my friend, because there's a 62 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:12.719 lot to unpack with this thing and how put off 63 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.199 was just on Joe Rogan. So this is freaking perfect timing. 64 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.879 And I gotta say that everything that Hell'll put off 65 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.240 sudden the Joe Rogan Show is one hundred percent true 66 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.319 about remote viewing because he was the one that kind 67 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:30.039 of started that at s all right, Uh, but everything 68 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.520 that he said about UFOs I disagree with. 69 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.360 Okay, yeah, we'll back that a little bit. 70 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.599 I haven't I haven't listened to it yet, so I'm 71 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.159 I'm it's on my list of things to do here 72 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:40.719 this weekend. 73 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:43.360 So yeah, I'll. 74 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.039 To unpack that with you because I because I did 75 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.919 want to bring you on because I, like most of 76 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:52.039 the audience, I would assume know what Project Stargate is, 77 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.599 but perhaps don't know all the details. There's you know, 78 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:58.439 in the world of ufology, there's a lot of disinformation 79 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:03.400 and misleading is and people claiming these connections to secret 80 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:07.159 space programs that maybe aren't and uh, it's I know 81 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.400 you've spent a ton of time digging into this, so 82 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:11.000 I wanted to kind of pick your brain for a 83 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.960 little bit. And you know, our last show, I had 84 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:16.279 you and Jay Widner on to talk about Kubrick's Odyssey 85 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.040 three and it sent me down this I want you 86 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:20.920 to know it sent me down a spiral of research 87 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.160 into Catcher and the Rye. For the first time, I 88 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.800 actually read the book and I did this two part 89 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:29.839 analysis because it it was fascinating because it did sort 90 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:33.120 of read like an mk ultra mind control killer book. 91 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.759 So yeah, that it was a fascinating talk. 92 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:37.560 But I wanted to get you back on talk Stargate 93 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.399 because I know you're the man. So where where do 94 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.160 you want to Where do you propose we start with 95 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.120 the whole thing? Do you want to give a little 96 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.040 brief overview of what stargate is, what's your background with 97 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:47.920 interest in it? 98 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:49.079 How do you want to go with this? 99 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:55.079 Well, that's that's It's also a connection between clarkwork shining 100 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.720 at Kubrick's Odyssey three with us as well, because Daney 101 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:04.040 is basically through the trauma that Danny suffered is what 102 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:09.399 unlocked these psychic abilities within him. And that's essentially what 103 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.680 Danny is kind of doing is remote viewing the future 104 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.680 because he has these psychic abilities, and that's what Army 105 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:26.439 and DA and seeing the future, seeing what things are 106 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:31.160 going to be happening, collecting intelligence data for foreign assets 107 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.160 mainly during the Cold War, and it ran up until 108 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:37.639 ninety nine until it was to be transferred to the CIA, 109 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:40.160 and then the CIA got it and then you know, 110 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.519 shut it down. Said that no intellig by valuable intelligence 111 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.680 data had ever been collected from the program, and that 112 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:52.680 was their justification for shutting the entire program down. And 113 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:57.319 what got me interested in it was researching mk ultra 114 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:03.519 and reading all of the hundred mk ultra subprojects. And 115 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:07.759 when you're reading through all of those, you'll see that 116 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:14.879 there are five mk ultra subprojects that were dedicated to 117 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:21.240 the research of psychic abilities. And then while I was 118 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.279 reading that, I was like, Okay, well, I know that 119 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:28.399 the government we're using psychics at a period of time, 120 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:35.120 So is mk ULTRA and the stargate psychic stuff connected? 121 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.319 And then I started reaching out to the people that 122 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.040 I could verify that we're in the stargate mk ultra 123 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:48.480 I mean stargate remote viewing unit. That's how confusing the 124 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.879 stuff gets is there's so much stuff going on. It's 125 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:55.079 a very convoluted, and they make it very difficult for 126 00:06:55.240 --> 00:07:01.959 people to find factual information about it online, and especially 127 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:07.000 with Trump's AI stargate stuff like now, when you type 128 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.319 in the Google like stargate, dude. It's just like you 129 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:11.959 just get all kinds of stuff and then plus you 130 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.240 have like stargate, stargate SG one. You have all these 131 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:18.959 people using the stargate term. But that term actually was 132 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.160 developed by dell Graph in nineteen ninety two. I had 133 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.000 dell Graph on my show. He's been on my show 134 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:28.000 like three times. He was the operations manager for the 135 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:32.560 psychic spies that DIA and Army Intelligence were doing, and 136 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:39.439 he created the term stargate. It ran by many different names. 137 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:44.079 It has switched titles, it has switched names, has gone 138 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:48.439 back and forth between DA Army Intelligence several times. The 139 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:51.759 Air Force was involved. But one of the first things 140 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.160 that we need to kind of dispel, like out the gate, 141 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:01.079 is that this isn't a CIA program. It was never 142 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:05.759 a CIA program. The CIA literally had nothing to do 143 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:12.800 with this other than funding SRI in seventy two, which 144 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.399 was the research side of this. And we're going to 145 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.879 get into all this because it's I have my notes 146 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:22.519 here because it's too much to freaking remember all this stuff. 147 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:29.600 But the only involvement that the CIA had was funding 148 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.960 SRI in the very beginning to research remote viewing, and 149 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.679 they had people like Pat Price, They had like Ingo 150 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:39.360 Swan and like a few others that they were doing 151 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.799 psychic research on. And that's what how put Off was 152 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.720 talking about on Joe Rogan, like the very beginnings of 153 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:50.120 him getting into being a you know, getting into remote 154 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.759 viewing and working at SRI. And I had mentioned in 155 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:59.000 my show that I did with Donut that how put 156 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:05.440 Off is a scigenceologist, which he is a scientologist, and 157 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.399 some people called me out on that, like online it 158 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.360 was like, well, you mean how put Off as a scientologist. 159 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:19.960 You're lying about how put Off being a scientologist, and uh, 160 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.639 you can go right to his Wikipedia page. 161 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:27.279 Yeah, I was at depression he was in fact a scientologist, 162 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:29.960 And what do you think do you think that connects 163 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:33.080 us into Because when I interviewed doctor Jacques Vallet a 164 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.519 few weeks ago, he mentioned some when we were talking, 165 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:38.919 he basically was lying out of this idea that if 166 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.039 we want to understand the phenomenon, we have. 167 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.919 To sort of explore the realm of the occult. 168 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:49.159 And he mentioned something about scientology, like the early scientology days, 169 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.559 being some kind of I don't know, some kind of 170 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:54.759 connection into this whole thing. Do you think that that's 171 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:56.799 and then of course you know that with the foundations 172 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:00.600 of l Ron Hubbard's Scientology connected to Jack Parson, Like, 173 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:02.320 to me, it seems like these things are all kind 174 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:07.120 of connected, and maybe maybe it's we're going through a 175 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:10.159 weird kind of disclosure on that right now, because I 176 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.200 don't think sixty years ago this would have been a 177 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:18.679 popular or acceptable topic to claim that Jack Parsons, Antichrist 178 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.080 and l Ron Hubbard were on in the desert jacking 179 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:25.159 off and opening up portals. And I think I think 180 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.360 the masses would be like, what are you guys smoking? 181 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:28.639 What are you talking about? You know what I mean? 182 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:32.559 So, yeah, this Wikipedia article right here. So has put 183 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:35.000 Off took an interest in the Church of Scientology in 184 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.480 the late nineteen sixties and reached what was known as 185 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.960 op level seven by nineteen seventy one. Put Off wrote 186 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:48.960 up his Wins for Scientology publication, claiming to achieve remote 187 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:55.159 viewing abilities. In nineteen seventy four, put Off also wrote 188 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:59.000 a piece for Scientology celebrity magazine, standing of Scientology, giving 189 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.960 them a feeling of apps fearlessness. Put Off served all 190 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.440 connection was severed. All connection with Scientology in the late 191 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.679 seventies and like that's that's what people were saying. They 192 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:14.840 were coming at me on on x and on Facebook 193 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:18.559 for seeing that put Off was a scientologist you had 194 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:19.279 left the church. 195 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.159 Okay, do you think that's relevant to do you think 196 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:25.600 that's relevant to the the the arguments of whether or 197 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:30.159 not you know, like, like does does does Scientology teach 198 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:32.799 these people something about how to make contact? How to 199 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.759 remote you? I mean there must be something there. Have 200 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:37.279 you dug into that at all? I mean I know 201 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.919 that they keep kind of guarded secrets in the Church 202 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.600 of Scientology, so maybe that's not public knowledge. 203 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:47.159 I really haven't because scientology is a whole other rabbit 204 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.720 hole that I would just rather completely avoid. Yeah, and 205 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.919 it's dangerous, right, the dangerous though literally come after you 206 00:11:54.960 --> 00:12:00.559 and stalk you and ging stalk you and post about 207 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.159 side of your house and shit, and like I just don't, 208 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:04.440 I just don't even. 209 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:06.360 Yeah, yeah, I got you. So. 210 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:09.759 So with the foundations of stargate, the I think the 211 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.679 sort of normy version would be the CIA was funding 212 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:17.399 projects to do some remote viewing. Russell targ was working 213 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.120 at SRI or it was connected with SRI at Stanford Research, 214 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.440 and they did a bunch of experimentations of remote viewing, 215 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:29.080 and I guess officially over the years they said it 216 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.600 didn't really work or it wasn't conclusive that it works, 217 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:37.080 so then they shut it down. But when you look 218 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:42.399 at the modern day upology movement and folks like Chris 219 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:46.840 Bledsoe or doctor Stephen Greer who claimed that with the 220 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.159 right sort of focus or energy or whatever, or or 221 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.360 or inherent psychic abilities right like you were saying with 222 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.759 Danny Torrence from the Shining that there is this this 223 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:01.200 ability to make contact. So that's where it gets kind 224 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.519 of confusing to me, is like, so were they successful 225 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:05.720 in this and they're just kind of lying to the public, 226 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.240 and maybe they change the name of Stargate. I'm not 227 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.399 really sure what to make of all of that. 228 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.679 Okay, well, let's get into it right here, because this 229 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.080 is this is the one hundred percent real information. All 230 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.879 this information that I'm about to speak about now comes 231 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:29.039 from official documents, official declassified Sunstreet Briefing document, and it 232 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.200 also comes from the Sri Syndicate document, which was from 233 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:37.600 nineteen seventy three. Okay, so where all this starts is 234 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:43.120 with SRI Stanford Research Institute, but the government was also 235 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:47.799 doing studies on what they refer to in the documents 236 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:54.799 as parapsychology with Duke University in the thirties, Parapsychology Foundation 237 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:57.960 in New York in the fifties, Mind Science Foundation in 238 00:13:58.000 --> 00:13:59.799 the sixties. So they had an interest in this for 239 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.840 really long time, and they did other research foundations and 240 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:06.720 centers even earlier than SRI. But the thing that kicked 241 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.159 off this whole remote viewing stuff was SRI and this 242 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:14.000 was in the seventies, in the early seventies. So to 243 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:19.120 establish a little background on SRI is SRI is essentially 244 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:23.519 a government contractor and their very first research project investigated 245 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.399 whether a plant can be used as a source of 246 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.159 natural rubber, so from nineteen forty two to nineteen forty six, 247 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:33.960 and then the funding was cut by Congress after World 248 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:38.559 War Two ended. Then SRI's first economic study was for 249 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:41.720 the United States Air Force, which is very important to 250 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.480 remember now because later on we get into more Air 251 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:48.600 Force stuff. That's where dell graph comes in that I 252 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.279 just mentioned that created the term starget. He had a 253 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.879 small remote viewing unit at right Patterson Air Force Base 254 00:14:55.799 --> 00:15:00.519 which was involved with locating a missing airplane, which we're 255 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:03.080 going to get into here in just a few minutes. 256 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.960 So in nineteen forty seven, the Air Force wanted to 257 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:12.320 determine expansion potential for the US aircraft industry. SRI found 258 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:16.000 that it would take a really long time to escalate 259 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.559 the production and an emergency, So in nineteen forty eight, 260 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:24.200 SRI began research and consultation with Chevron Corporation to develop 261 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:27.919 an artificial substitute for coconut oil and soap production. So 262 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.799 the reason for mentioning all of that is to establish 263 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.919 that SRI is working for the government. The SRI is 264 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.639 a government contractor, and we know what government contractors are, 265 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.960 like Raytheon and all these Lockeed Martin and all these 266 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:48.039 big aerospace types of companies. They're essentially a front for 267 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.879 the intelligence community. And it's also establishing that SRI worked 268 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.840 for the Air Force and was getting funding from the 269 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.200 Air Force prior, which is very important. But in nineteen 270 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:05.200 seventy two, the United States rb Surgeon General, through the 271 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:11.639 Intelligence Information Agency, together with THEDIA, then published studies of 272 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:16.519 Soviet Bloc work in psycho energetics. So they got information 273 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:22.600 that the Russians were using psychics to collect intelligence data 274 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.519 on the United States. Also in that same year, SRI 275 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:33.279 Stanford Research instit stated that they started their research in 276 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.000 psycho energetics in nineteen seventy two with how put Off 277 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.720 and Russell targ They did a series of investigations into 278 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:48.519 the psychic phenomenon which was sponsored and funded by the CIA, 279 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:55.480 and had consciousness researchers in Go Swan hat Price, and 280 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.240 this is all documented in the Syndicate documented from nineteen 281 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:04.799 seventy three. Syndicate was an SRI program to determine if 282 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:09.240 remote viewing or psycho energetic phenomenon was real. Because if 283 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:14.039 it was possible that the subjects in the beginning at 284 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:19.759 SRI could be using their minds to collect information, how 285 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.720 are they getting that information right? Are they getting that 286 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.440 information subliminately? Are they getting that information somehow through memory? 287 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.640 So they started running a bunch of tests and during 288 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:35.480 the testing, Ego Swan was given a coordinate and he 289 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:40.000 described some kind of military base. Now this is known 290 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:43.519 as coordinate remote viewing. There are several different versions and 291 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:49.279 different names of different types of remote viewing, but this 292 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.079 is known as coordinate remote viewing. Where a coordinate is 293 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:55.599 given to a remote viewer, they then are able to 294 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:02.359 view whatever has been imbued upon that coordinate. The coordinate. Now, 295 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.319 it's it gets really confusing because the coordinate really doesn't 296 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:11.039 have to be what the location of what the person 297 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.279 is viewing. So the coordinate is actually just like it 298 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:19.160 can be any series of numbers. Okay, So the person 299 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.599 that's giving the coordinate to the person essentially has to 300 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:27.640 imbue and imprint what they want the remote viewer to 301 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:31.720 see onto the numbers. It's a very complicated problem. You 302 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:35.839 can't just sit down and remote view something. That's not 303 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:40.160 how remote viewing works. Okay, So all these remote viewers 304 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.559 online that are saying that they can that they remove 305 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.079 viewed Antarctica, that they remote viewed this alien base, that 306 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.359 they remove you the underground bases in the United States, 307 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:53.720 it's all nonsense, garbage, bullshit. You can't one. You can't 308 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:58.200 know what you're remote viewing because whenever you know exactly 309 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:00.880 what it is that you're remote viewing, your mind then 310 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.079 creates things that you're supposed to see. 311 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:05.359 Oh I see, yeah, I read a I read an 312 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.240 experiment that was done to remote view Mars. I believe, 313 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:11.680 I don't know if you've ever heard of that one. 314 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.200 It's kind of a famous one, and I believe it 315 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.880 was the restr and Stargate. And I want to say, 316 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.160 I want to say, my from my memory serves that 317 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:22.079 that was the deal, was that they didn't tell the 318 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.640 the person who was doing the viewing, like hey, you're 319 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:28.200 going to Mars. It just gave them some location. And 320 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.240 it also was I don't know, a million years ago 321 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.039 or something crazy like that. So you're saying that, So 322 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:36.000 you're saying that if if you see someone online who's 323 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:39.319 like our remote view the moon the dark side of 324 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.759 the moon right now, like that intention that is baked 325 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.160 into it already sort of like makes it misleading. 326 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.559 Exactly, can't do it. It's impossible to do, Okay, I 327 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:55.039 didn't know that, you know, the target Like if I 328 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:59.319 brought up this uh this reader's dies of in Antarctica 329 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:01.799 and started sc only through it and seeing a picture 330 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.440 of Antarctica, and then I was like, oh well, let 331 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.480 me remote view that scenario of that photo that was 332 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.319 taken in time. It's you're not remote viewing anything. You're 333 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.519 just using your imagination, using any kind of psychic ability. 334 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:20.920 So whenever this coordinate was given to Ingo Swan, he 335 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:26.160 described some kind of military base in the woods, okay, 336 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:31.079 and this was supposedly in West Virginia. The coordinates was 337 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.440 then given to a gentleman, a businessman that was referred 338 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.400 to in the documents just as Pat. They refer to 339 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.759 him as Pat in the official documents, but we now 340 00:20:39.880 --> 00:20:43.000 know his name was Pat Price. So when Pat Price 341 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:47.720 got the coordinates to verify EGO Swan's remote viewing of 342 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.599 this suspected military base in West Virginia, he described the 343 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:57.200 exact same thing in large detail. And this document is 344 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.359 really incredible. How put Off was talking about it on 345 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.680 Joe Rogan is Okay, it's insane. It like I have 346 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.799 the document, the Simsica document, and he's talking about wind speed, 347 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.680 he's talking about altitude, the surrounding area. He draws like 348 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:15.079 a diagram of what it was that he was seeing. 349 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:20.680 So how put Off in Russell Target asking to view 350 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:24.720 this location again and see if he could actually get 351 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:29.599 inside of the facility with his mind. So he does it. 352 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.960 He gets inside of the facility. So he's looking around 353 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.880 the facility and he sees documents on the table. He 354 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:40.319 was trying to obtain code word information with his psychic abilities, 355 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:43.839 and he did. He saw on the top of the 356 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:50.119 desk papers that were labeled they were like fly trap, 357 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.440 mine run. And there was like a file cabinet on 358 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:58.440 one of the walls. It was labeled Operation Pool folders 359 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.839 on the inside of the cabinet that had all kinds 360 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.640 of code words on it that revolved around the game 361 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:08.279 of pool, like qball, fourteen ball, four ball, A ball, 362 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.759 rock up whatever. Right, And he said that the site 363 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.920 vaguely seemed like hey fork or hay stack. And he 364 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.079 even got the names of the generals at the facility. Now, 365 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:26.000 mind you, this is a top secret military installation in 366 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:33.440 West Virginia that is to monitor like Soviet satellites. Okay, 367 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:38.039 very top secret. No one really knew about this information. 368 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:42.839 And how they got the coordinate was they were doing 369 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.119 this test and one of the people that gave the 370 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:52.480 coordinate had a cabin out in West Virginia and he 371 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.440 thought that they were giving them the location the coordinate 372 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:01.440 of the cabin but right on the other side of 373 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:06.079 the hill of the cabin was this top secret military base. 374 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.279 Oh wow, Okay, so he got the names of the facility. 375 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:18.640 It was like Colonel Hamlin, Major General George Nash Calhoun. 376 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:25.319 And this got the attention of all of the intelligence organizations. 377 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:31.680 If people can get into our facilities right figure out 378 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:36.079 information about what we're doing, what can other countries do 379 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.039 in our other countries doing this? And I just mentioned 380 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:40.680 the Russia. They found out that Russia was trying to 381 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:45.079 use psychic spise the collect intelligence data on the on 382 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.160 the United States, which is another really interesting aspect of this, 383 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:53.759 because Russia got more Nazi scientists out of World War Two, 384 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:57.440 then the United States got on paper. Now it's reported 385 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:02.720 that the United States got I think there's fifteen hundred 386 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:08.480 verified na to scientists and aerospace engineers, right, but people 387 00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:13.119 claim that it was upwards of You know, you're. 388 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:14.839 Listening to the free feed of a cult, symbolism and 389 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.359 pop culture, which means you're missing out. 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