1 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone to a new episode. If you were 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,359 wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of the Federalist, 3 00:00:20,399 --> 00:00:23,000 and David Harsani, a senior writer at The Washington Examiner. 4 00:00:23,559 --> 00:00:25,280 Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,199 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. 6 00:00:28,839 --> 00:00:31,359 Speaker 2: We love to hear from you, Mollie. 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: This week, Kamala Harris, presidential candidate for the Democratic Party, 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,920 is going to go on Fox News and to be 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,439 interviewed by Brett Behar. Do you think that this signifies 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,679 a panic within her campaign because it seems unlikely. 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: To me she would do this if she felt like 12 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:49,759 she was ahead. 13 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:56,759 Speaker 3: Well, I sort of, yes and no. Obviously, her campaign 14 00:00:56,799 --> 00:00:59,159 is being an indication that they do not feel that 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,920 she is where she needs to be in the race. 16 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:04,560 But she should have been going on Fox News a 17 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:08,159 lot earlier than now, given how poorly she's doing with 18 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:11,519 people who are well represented in the viewing audience of 19 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:15,560 Fox News, and so it would have been smarter for 20 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:18,879 her to have had a primary battle where she was 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,840 doing a lot of TV so she could kind of 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,079 work her way up to a Brettbaer interview, making this 23 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,400 her first interview where she might this might be her 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,359 first interview where she's asked any sort of questions of 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,079 the type where Americans want to know her answer, and 26 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:34,439 so she it'll be something where she has to perform 27 00:01:34,439 --> 00:01:36,439 pretty well. 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't think she would be doing 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,799 this interview if she didn't feel like she was struggling. 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,920 A lot of the numbers I see in some of 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,000 the polling on black support, black you know, support and 32 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:52,840 about black men but also black women is obviously still 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,879 very good, but far under historic know historic numbers. So 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,920 that would tell me that she's in trouble. Though other 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,760 pollsters I see, like Nate Silver or others, you know, 36 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:04,560 still think she's going to win, and I do kind 37 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,000 of trust. I'm not saying he's going to be right, 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,520 but I trust that he is trying to be fair. 39 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: About his polling. 40 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you disagree with that, you don't know. 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,319 But so I don't know, is the answer. But clearly 42 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:20,520 I think the campaign is pretty panicked. Right, there's no 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,280 way should go on Fox. I wrote a long piece 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,960 at the Washington Examiner. Someone yelled at me for not 45 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:29,639 specifying where I write things about how I think she's 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 incapable of answering a question because I don't think she 47 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:35,719 actually believes in anything. I think you're one hundred percent right. 48 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:38,120 This isn't going to be a very precarious position for 49 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:39,879 her because I don't know that she's going to be 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,439 able to coherently answer real questions and she has barely 51 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:47,159 faced any right, So I mean, on. 52 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:48,879 Speaker 3: The other hand, it's probably not going to be that 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,759 long of an interview, and she does she is able 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,520 to memorize answers, they're not always the answers to the 55 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:57,120 question she's being asked, which is why I think it'll 56 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:00,479 be key to ask follow ups if the answered that 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,280 she's memorized is not relevant to the question that was 58 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:07,719 asked or doesn't actually respond to it. But I don't know, 59 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:09,120 what do you think he should ask her about? 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Well, Fox News is not going to splice together answers 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,680 like CBS News did for We'll get to that in 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,800 a second. I think that you need to ask her 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:22,240 about plagiarism her book. Christopher Rufo so he pronounced it, 64 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:25,080 I'm not sure, but he's a really good investigative journalist, 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,919 you know, from the right, and he went through her 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,319 book called smart on crime, I believe, and went through 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,360 it and found numerous instances of plagiarism. Now, I want 68 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,599 to preface this by saying a lot of times people 69 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:41,759 are accused of plagiarism, and to me it's pretty weak. 70 00:03:42,039 --> 00:03:45,759 It's you know, they're rewriting just foundational things or facts 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,879 that it's very difficult to be very you know, to 72 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:50,719 not use this similar wording. But this, in my view, 73 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:55,840 was completely plagiarized, almost verbatim, many long passages. 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: If you were in. 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: College and they found you doing this, you would be expelled. 76 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:02,639 If I did it in a book and they found out, 77 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:05,639 my publisher would drop me and I would have to apologize. 78 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 But she, I don't even think other than maybe on Fox, 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,520 she's even going. 80 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:12,199 Speaker 3: To be asked David. I do want him asking her 81 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:14,560 about that. But there was something you said about Nate Silver, 82 00:04:14,639 --> 00:04:17,360 and I gave a look about how I wasn't sure 83 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,199 if I had as high of a view of him 84 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:21,920 as you did. There's his work, which I think is, 85 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:25,920 you know, sort of fine. But did you read that 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,279 interview that John Hylman did with Nate Silver a few 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:30,879 weeks ago? 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: No, Oh, my gosh. 89 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: They both sounded insane, and it made me realize, like, oh, 90 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:38,879 you can't actually listen to anything these people are saying. 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,959 I just want to share it, just this little bit 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,680 about John Hylman says, you were quoted in The Guardian 93 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,240 recently saying that one of the advantages of probabilistic forecast 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,480 models is that they allow people to prepare for what 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,199 might happen in the future. And you said that if 96 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:56,399 the forecast says the outcome of Harris versus Trump is 97 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:59,879 basically a coin flip, people should be making their contingency 98 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,399 plans for after the election, not necessarily stockpiling Ammo and 99 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:08,079 peanut butter, although I don't think that's a terrible idea personally, 100 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:12,079 but figuring out strategies to protect American institutions in the 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,399 event that American voters chose someone we didn't like. Just kidding, 102 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,920 he says, in the event of Trump reclaiming the White House, 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,839 are you making contingency plans and what are they so? Then, 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,720 Nate Silver says, I am a lucky and privileged person 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,959 who probably doesn't have existential stakes, although as a gay person, 106 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:34,240 I'm a little worried about the GOP shift toward new 107 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:41,319 waves of anti LGBTQ hysteria. I understand that I don't 108 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 have control over the election outcome, as much as people 109 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,360 might try to read alterior motives into my forecasting. But 110 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:49,199 you know, he goes on, what in the heck is 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,199 he talking about? 112 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,439 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what either of talking about, really, 113 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:59,399 I don't. It's just so embedded in their out worldview 114 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:01,439 that Donald Trump is the next Hitler, that they can 115 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:04,199 only talk about these things, you know, as if his 116 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,399 winning the election is the end of America. I just 117 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,800 it boggles my mind, only because I think Harris and 118 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,879 Democrats pose a far larger threat to the constitutional order 119 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:16,920 in a much more serious way, because their ideas, like 120 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,959 let's say Trump goes is his worst instincts come into play. 121 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,279 You know, he's a man, and he's a person, and 122 00:06:23,319 --> 00:06:25,319 he's a politician. What they want to do is destroy 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,279 the court forever. 124 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:26,959 Speaker 2: They want to. 125 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Destroy the filibuster forever. They want to do all these 126 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,879 things that will destroy the constitutional order. And I just 127 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,439 I see it. It's very difficult for me to even 128 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:37,680 understand where they're coming from. 129 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: So you hear all the time people on the left 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,839 say that if Americans vote for someone, I don't like, 131 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,800 or if members of another country choose to elect someone 132 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:53,480 that we don't like, that democracy is threatened. And it 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,560 is such an insulting, idiotic thing to say that if 134 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,519 you lose an election that people will choose someone that 135 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,600 you don't like. That therefore democracy, which is by the way, 136 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,040 not even what our system is, that that's somehow threatened. 137 00:07:10,399 --> 00:07:12,319 And then if you ask them to make their case, 138 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,720 so like, if you understand democracy to mean the bureaucratic 139 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,040 administrative state that we have built up around the constitutional order, 140 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,839 it makes sense what they're saying. They feel that Donald 141 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:27,639 Trump is a unique threat to the administrative set state, 142 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,800 that group of bureaucrats who are unaccountable to elections, who 143 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:37,480 get to dictate what happens in the country with no accountability. Right, 144 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:40,160 And on that point, I will just say, if you 145 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:42,959 get them to nail it down even more, they'll say, oh, 146 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:50,360 if Donald Trump were elected, he might prosecute his political opponents. Okay, So, 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,040 first off, he was president once before and did not 148 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,959 prosecute a single political opponent, and in fact went out 149 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,279 of his way to say he thought it would be 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,160 unhealthy to prosecute Hillary Clinton. You had broken the law 151 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,480 by the way, but it would be bad because you know, 152 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,079 you don't want to settle these things through law fair 153 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,439 you know, she just lost an election. And then you 154 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:14,040 have the last four years of every Democrat prosecutor at 155 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,639 the local, state and federal level trying to imprison their 156 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:23,120 political opponents, bankrupt their political opponents, keep their political opponents 157 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:26,879 off of the ballot, and so that's all ignored. And 158 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,839 then the case they make for why Donald Trump would 159 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:33,639 be a unique threat is that he said, if you 160 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,519 break federal election law, he's going to make sure that 161 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,120 you're prosecuted this time. Does anyone disagree that if you 162 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,799 break federal election laws you should be prosecuted. 163 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean their assumption is and what they're saying 164 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:50,240 is that he's going to lie about that and then 165 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,120 just prosecute his political enemies, which, like you pointed out, 166 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:54,279 he didn't do last time. 167 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:56,639 Speaker 2: But it's all just projection from them. 168 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: Everything that they're nervous about are things that they do 169 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:01,519 think they should be able to do it because they're 170 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:03,720 in the right in their moral and Donald Trump is terrible. 171 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know what we were 172 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,600 talking about. 173 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: My best we were talking about plagiarism and I'm so sorry. 174 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Oh it's okay, so far afield uh plagiarism. You know what, 175 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:17,720 here's a segue. They tell me Donald Trump is not 176 00:09:17,759 --> 00:09:20,840 competent to be present. Has Kamala Harrish shown you any 177 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,720 reason that we should believe that she can actually handle 178 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:27,440 the job with the presidency. She cannot answer a question coherently, 179 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:31,720 She does not know anything, and her book is plagiarized. 180 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,320 Now in seven instances I think major instances. I want 181 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,000 to say, did you yeah, there are more more instances. 182 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:42,799 Speaker 3: I was just seeing that Christopher Ruffo had a tweet 183 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:45,399 thread where he provided evidence to the New York Times 184 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:50,559 of like dozens of examples of plagiarism, and they lied 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,600 about him and claimed that he only he only had 186 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,200 like six major examples of plagiarism, which in a normal, 187 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,080 sane world would already be a MA issue. I just 188 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,759 want to remind people that when rand Paul had a 189 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:08,679 speech that had some similar lines about the movie Gatica 190 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,679 to a Wikipedia entry, it was a major scandal for 191 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,399 the New York Times. Here you have a book pretending 192 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:17,919 or claiming to be claiming to have been written by 193 00:10:18,039 --> 00:10:23,080 Kamala Harris that has massive, you know, repeated sections that 194 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:27,120 are clearly plagarized. It's not there's not an allegation. It's 195 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,519 just unless Wikipedia went back and changed their entry to 196 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:35,759 what she wrote, which is it's not. 197 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: It's not just Wikipedia, though there there there's there are 198 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:42,600 studies she takes from. I don't think she putnotes them correctly. 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,320 I am like obsessive about this stuff when I write. 200 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:48,240 And I'm not a presidential candidate, but I like, I'm 201 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:50,360 always like, do I really need a thousand footnotes on 202 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:52,559 this my political book here? But I do because I 203 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,679 want to make sure. Let's just break this down a bit. 204 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,399 So that book is ghost written. In fact, co author 205 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,440 is on the of the book. I think that you're 206 00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:06,360 responsible if you're an author or the if it's ghost written, 207 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:09,559 you're responsible for that work. But what made me laugh 208 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:13,240 was imagine if she went on Fox whenever she's going 209 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:16,039 to be on, had said I didn't actually write that book, 210 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:18,200 that would be the funniest thing. She would have to 211 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,320 throw her under the bus, her co author or take responsibility. 212 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,879 It's only two ways to deal with that. So what 213 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:25,799 does the New York Times do? I forgot what the 214 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,559 headline was something like Republicans pounce or something. 215 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: What was it? 216 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: I think conservative activist seizes on passages from Kamala. Harris 217 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,120 book expert says, no big deal. You can move on 218 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,919 and ignore this. 219 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: Experts says Kamala did the good plagiarism. 220 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: No. 221 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: But the funny thing about this, First of all, why 222 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,440 would a newspaper reporter, a big paper needs to have 223 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,360 an expert on plagiarism. This is like your job to 224 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,240 know what plagiarism is. This expert, this expert they asked, 225 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,159 said it was. 226 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: No big deal. But in his defense, I saw him. 227 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: On Twitter say they only gave me like three of 228 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:06,320 the least you know, offensive passages. They didn't give me 229 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:09,080 these other passages which were much worse or something like that, 230 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,159 and put words in his mouth. So Rufou I think, 231 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,919 had a post on that that they had only forwarded 232 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,000 because some of them weren't as bad as others, honestly, 233 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:21,519 and it seemed like they only forwarded certain ones to 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:27,639 get the answer they wanted from this expert. I don't 235 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:30,240 think it's going to matter to voters. I mean, I 236 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:31,720 just don't think it's a big story anymore. I think 237 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,480 our moral standards are just shot. 238 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: Okay, yes and no. I do think that we're seeing 239 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,600 so many examples of so called elites, you know, professors, 240 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:48,639 university presidents, people on the left, Kamala Harris, who are 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,120 engaged in widespread plagiarism that the institutions that would normally 242 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,600 place a check on that are also compromised by it. Like, 243 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,080 no offense to the journalism profession, but we're not sending 244 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,519 our best and brightest if we ever were, they're no 245 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:06,960 longer in the industry. They think they're super smart, but 246 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,279 they're not. I think they're plagiarizing each other's ideas. I 247 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:13,240 don't mean to belittle the actual problem of plagiarism, but 248 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,799 they're not really independent thinkers. They view their job as 249 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:20,559 protecting their political party. So it's on the one hand, 250 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,840 you can say, yeah, it's not going to be a 251 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,080 big deal. On the other hand, I loved like Jade 252 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,480 Vance was out there saying, if you want someone who 253 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:30,559 wrote their own book, you know me, And if you 254 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,080 want Kamala Harris, who just plagiarized from other people, that's 255 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,440 what you're gonna get with her. I think people sense 256 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:43,320 the IQ differential between Kamala Harris and Tim Walls on 257 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,080 the one hand, and Donald Trump and Jade Vance on 258 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,519 the other is maybe the most dramatic we've ever had 259 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:52,799 in a presidential race, and I think that does actually 260 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,559 affect things. 261 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,399 Speaker 1: Let me talk about this for a second. I don't 262 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,960 know about Donald Trump so much as jd. Vance, who 263 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:04,200 is obvious the most polished candidate out there, clearly the 264 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,840 smartest candidate, the most well spoken candidate, the candidate who 265 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:14,320 answers questions most coherently and succinctly, and the candidate who 266 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,360 challenges journalists when they ask him stupid questions in ways 267 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:18,360 that are very effective. 268 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:19,519 Speaker 2: All of that's true. 269 00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:21,639 Speaker 1: I mentioned this, and I prefaced it by saying, I 270 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:23,960 know I'm not a jd. Vance fan, and everyone attacked me. 271 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,840 But the reason I mentioned that is I don't think 272 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:30,679 anyone anyone in the world watching this thinks would think, 273 00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:34,159 or saw him in performing, would think that Jadvance is weird. 274 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,039 Do you remember that whole thing Jadvance is weird? He's 275 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,600 the most normal. When he told I forgot the ABC reporter, 276 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:43,720 do you hear yourself? That was like the most normal 277 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:47,240 reaction a person could give. And you know, he's been 278 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,559 very good he's as politically, I'm just saying very good. 279 00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:53,879 Speaker 3: I've just been going around using the phrase do you 280 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,279 hear yourself Martha? Over and over again. It's the Martha 281 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,600 that really seals it. I think. 282 00:14:59,039 --> 00:14:59,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: I loved watching two interviews with jd. Vance in particular. 284 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,240 One was with this New York Times reporter who clearly 285 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,159 had no idea of her actual intelligence relative to what 286 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,039 she know what. She has a self conception of her 287 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,879 intelligence that is very much off. I can't remember her name, 288 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,720 like Lulu Garcia Navarro or something, And so she's interviewing 289 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:34,360 Jade Vance. She comes off so cartoonishly hostile, and when 290 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:39,240 he's talking about economic policy and immigration and how illegal 291 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:44,159 immigration harms the working class in this country, and she's like, well, 292 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:48,679 I think most most experts wouldn't agree with you. In 293 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,879 other words, she knew so little about economics that she 294 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,120 thought that her very like, tiny little area that she'd 295 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:59,960 read was the universe of economic thought on illegal immigration. 296 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,720 And he handled it so well. I loved when she 297 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,120 was like, sorry, how would homes get built if we 298 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:15,000 don't have a ton millions of illegal immigrants? And he's like, oh, Lulu, 299 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,360 that's a great question. Because as you know, you know, 300 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,039 in the nineteen sixties, when there were very low rates 301 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:25,639 of illegal immigration, we had no homes built. So that's 302 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:28,679 a really really smart question. I mean, it was just 303 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:31,320 so brutal, and I don't know if she realized how 304 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:34,639 brutal it was for her. And then oh, sorry, I 305 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,159 was just gonna say. 306 00:16:35,159 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these reporters are living their 307 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:40,000 own little bubbles and they just don't even know how 308 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,039 to debate or talk about anything. 309 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,399 Speaker 2: And it's not just reporters. 310 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,759 Speaker 1: Just remember the Tanasi Coats interview, Like they cannot they 311 00:16:46,799 --> 00:16:49,960 don't understand how to debate because they're never really challenged. 312 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,919 And obviously Jade Vance is constantly challenged and he's very 313 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:56,399 adapt you know, debating. 314 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: And Martha radditts, sorry, I saw a comment that is 315 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,159 so mean that I probably shouldn't share it. And I'm 316 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,079 no place to talk this way, but someone said Martha 317 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:14,079 Radditz has a face for radio and a voice for print. 318 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,240 I'm just always surprised. Like and again, I you know, 319 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:21,279 if beauty were if beauty were the only metric, you know, 320 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:24,079 for being on television, I would obviously not be on there. 321 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,640 But there is something weird to me. Sometime's like there 322 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,240 are people with like really bad voices, or you know, 323 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:34,079 like you're you're like, this is a visual and audio medium. 324 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,400 You know, like we should kind of remember that at 325 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,839 some point. Anyway, Martha Raddits gave another cartoonishly hostile debate 326 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:47,359 performance against JD. Vance, and the part that everyone really 327 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:51,839 loved was when she said that only a few apartment 328 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:57,079 complexes in Aurora, only a few apartment complexes in Aurora, 329 00:17:57,319 --> 00:18:00,640 had been taken over by a violent criminal gang out 330 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,119 of Venezuela. So she says, so you're lying, and you're 331 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:06,839 your running mate is lying about how bad it is. 332 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,920 And Jdban says, have you wait, do you hear yourself? Martha? 333 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:15,039 Do you hear yourself? And I'm thinking that is what 334 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:19,799 hundreds of millions of Americans are asking corporate media. Do 335 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,240 you bleep and bleep hear yourself? You're monsters, like you're 336 00:18:24,279 --> 00:18:27,480 nothing but propaganda. A new poll came out today showing 337 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:30,319 that media trust in the media to report the news 338 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,880 with any degree of honesty is at another all time low. 339 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,880 Republicans already feel that way, Conservatives already feel that way, 340 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,880 but even independence now They're just like, well, obviously, I'm like, 341 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,680 how many times can you lie to me and engage 342 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,119 in propaganda? But they just keep getting worse and worse 343 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,079 and worse. CBS is imploding right now, and they're doing 344 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:51,039 it willingly. 345 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: Let's talk about CBS. It's funny. 346 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: Every time we speak, you'll say something about NBC News. 347 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,599 I'll be like, yeah, actually, you know, I often forget 348 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:01,799 they're the and then CBS, I know, actually they are 349 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:05,359 the worst. Like they're all so bad, and CBS might be, 350 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,960 as far as television goes, the worst. So you'll remember 351 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,920 the Tanasi Coats interview. I think it was two weeks ago. 352 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:15,039 Someone dared to ask him I forgot the guy's name, 353 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,240 dared to ask him a question about his book. Yeah, 354 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,039 So the whole place melted down, all the people working there. 355 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:23,759 They had to bring in a DII specialist to deal 356 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:30,000 with their mental break. Then they interviewed sixty minutes interviewed 357 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,039 Kamala Harris. They asked her a question about Israel Lebanon. 358 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:36,720 I don't know if you've heard it's in the news. 359 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:39,960 You figure a presidential candidate would have some polished answers 360 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,359 on it. She goes on this just she just vomits 361 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,400 out a bunch of gibberish and platitudes. They make no sense. 362 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,559 They use this as the trailer for the sixty minutes interview. 363 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:57,359 People are like, wow, she is really stupid. Just watching 364 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,759 this makes no sense. CBS pulls it, they resplice it. 365 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,480 We're not even sure exactly. I'm not sure if they 366 00:20:04,519 --> 00:20:06,880 cut it for length to make or sound coherent, or 367 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,039 they spliced it in. I'm unsure because we don't have 368 00:20:09,079 --> 00:20:14,319 the transcript and put that out. They refused to release 369 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:17,640 the transcript of an interview they had with a presidential candidate, 370 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:21,960 which is clearly interference. I'm not saying it's illegal, but 371 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,599 it's interference in the election. It does not let people 372 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,319 know what the candidate really said, and they did that. 373 00:20:28,759 --> 00:20:30,440 Another thing they did I quickly want to say, is 374 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,759 that CBS News says you can't mention Jerusalem as the 375 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:34,200 capital of Israel. I should have said that with the 376 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,759 Ta Nazi codes thing. It's not a news organization in 377 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:38,319 any way. 378 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: Sorry, go on, Well, I. 379 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: Guess we're going to list things. We should also mention 380 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,200 that they did an interview with Speaker of the House 381 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:48,079 Mike Hn Yeah, and Mike Johnson gave his first hand 382 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,880 testimony of problems with the federal response to Hurricane Helene 383 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,960 in western North Carolina, and they cut it out because 384 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,559 a big part of the propaganda machine right now is 385 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,640 claiming that if you report honestly or accurately about failures 386 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,279 at FEMA. And by the way, failures at FEMA is 387 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,319 almost redundant because FEMA has been a failure since Jimmy 388 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Carter started it. It's just like a patronage organization that 389 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,240 has very little success to its name. But if you 390 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,119 report honestly and accurately about that, we're now told that 391 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:24,039 that's misinformation or disinformation. But yes, this CBS transcript scandal 392 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,480 is fascinating to me. I think people understand that if 393 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:32,160 you interview someone and then you're airing it on TV, 394 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,440 that you might cut out the portions in between questions, 395 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,319 or you might even stop the answer of a question 396 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,799 a little early. You have to be very careful about 397 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:45,440 how you do that so you don't materially change the 398 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:48,839 substance or the you know, the quality of the answer. 399 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240 These types of editing decisions can always be done in 400 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:54,759 a way to favor your political friends and to hurt 401 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,680 your political opponents. But what we're talking about here is 402 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:00,359 so much worse than that. You know, they really least 403 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,839 one gobbledygook answer about the US and the relationship with Israel, 404 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,079 and then when they aired it, they aired an answer 405 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,880 that is it's unclear if she's actually answering anything approaching 406 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,160 the actual question that. 407 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: They air totally unclear, Totally unclear, and. 408 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: It's not what they released earlier, and it's so substantively 409 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,319 different that it requires an explanation. 410 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,079 Speaker 1: And I quickly say, you can juxtapose these two instances. 411 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,559 One they edited it to help make her sound coherent. 412 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:33,279 With Mike Johnson, they edited it to make him sound 413 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,720 crass in a way about FEMA, where the middle part 414 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,799 of that question he goes on about the people he 415 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,119 met in those states that told him that FEMA wasn't helping, 416 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,279 which I think is an important enough point. You can 417 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,559 you don't have to believe him whatever, but it's important 418 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:47,960 enough for people to hear for sure. 419 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,079 Speaker 3: Sorry, So what makes this interesting is when they were caught, 420 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,640 and they almost didn't get caught. There are so many 421 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,799 ways you could not get caught on this because only 422 00:22:56,839 --> 00:23:00,279 you know what actually happened. But they made that stake 423 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:02,359 of releasing one thing then another, so they got caught. 424 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,720 They are refusing to release the transcript in a way 425 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:08,039 that is very suspicious. So if you google for the 426 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:10,720 transcript of the interview, you only get a transcript of 427 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,599 what aired, which, as we just established, is not what 428 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:17,839 actually happened. All the time, they'll cut things out and 429 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920 then they release a full transcript or they post the 430 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:23,359 entire video. You can watch for yourself how the whole 431 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,599 video went, and you can read for yourself what all 432 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,920 the full answers were, and you can kind of compare 433 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,640 it versus what they aired. In this case, they are 434 00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:33,559 hiding it. And I think they're hiding it because they 435 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:36,960 spliced it an answer from a completely different question. And 436 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,039 I think also they might have done it so many 437 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:43,319 times that it would be just complete, a complete disaster 438 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 for them. But you have these former CBS journalists like 439 00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,519 Catherine Herridge who says, well, when I interviewed Donald Trump, 440 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,839 we released the whole thing, And you had other people 441 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,319 within CBS who are leaking to other reporters that they 442 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,519 feel this is really embarrassing that they won't just release 443 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,400 the transcript full video, And how. 444 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: Do I know that they haven't done this before. How 445 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,640 do I know they haven't done this with other politicians 446 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,960 they like? And you know, we don't know now, I 447 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,440 don't know. We never would have known if some low 448 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:13,000 level producer hadn't cut that question out and put it 449 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:16,599 up as a trailer, we would not have known. Well, yeah, 450 00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:19,480 with Katie Couric at CBS, I forget, but remember that 451 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,039 she did that documentary with the gun owners and then 452 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,640 spliced in like a moment of silence to make them 453 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,720 sound the fuddle at one of her answers. I mean, 454 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,079 they probably have been doing this since Walter Kroncott. Don't Croncott, 455 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,319 I don't know. I mean, we don't know. 456 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: If you haven't learned your lesson yet, never rely on 457 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,319 the federal government. 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It's affecting you financially informed. 465 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:02,640 Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 466 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,759 Markowski on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. 467 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: You know, CBS sixty minutes has kind of traditionally done 468 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,799 interviews with presidential candidates ahead of the election. And what 469 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,599 happened four years ago is that Leslie Stall engaged in 470 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,480 propaganda warfare against Trump when he brought up the laptop 471 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:25,559 which showed how the Biden family business operated working with 472 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,640 foreign oligarchs to get money to the Biden family in 473 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,440 exchange for policies or favors to be named. Later, she 474 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,720 said that that was Russian disinformation, or she said it 475 00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:40,200 wasn't verified. She you know, she just like lied, or 476 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,720 she's such a bad journalist that she should, you know, 477 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,920 recant everything she ever did. And Donald Trump said he 478 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,640 wanted an apology and they wouldn't give it. He needed 479 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,279 a lot more than an apology in my view. But 480 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,920 I think they got like ten million viewers for that 481 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,839 sixty minutes with Kamala Harris, which is not an in 482 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,640 significant number. Well, Kamala Harris leaked to the public that 483 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,160 she's thinking about doing a Joe Rogan interview. And I 484 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,799 don't know if this is the type of leak of 485 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,720 Beyonce is going to be at the DNC, in other words, 486 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,799 a lie. But maybe maybe she's going to do a 487 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,640 three hour segment with Joe Rogan or however long those 488 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,880 things are. Joe Rogan gets two hundred million downloads a month. 489 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,200 He is the new mainstream media and CBS is not. 490 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:34,319 CBS is a joke. Nobody takes CBS seriously, and they 491 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:38,480 had a stellar reputation undeserved, but they had a stellar reputation, 492 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,160 and now like who cares what they think? 493 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: Well, people who defend Leslie Stall. All she said was 494 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720 that it wasn't verified, and that was true. No, it 495 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,319 wasn't true. The New York Post verified that story. They 496 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:52,640 did very good reporting. 497 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: They did. 498 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: The level of professionalism in that reporting was better than 499 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:00,200 what big major outlets did for the Russia coclusion stuff, 500 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,960 and it was as verified as anything else. She did 501 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,240 it to make him seem like he was lying about 502 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,039 something which he wasn't lying about. They were just suppressing it. 503 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,799 Speaker 3: So the other thing about Leslie Stall is that, yeah, 504 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,160 CBS is trying to say, oh, we never, we never 505 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960 suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story. We just said that 506 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,680 it wasn't able to be verified. Well, first of all, 507 00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,640 as you noted, it was able to be verified, and 508 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,559 it was verified when it was put out there by 509 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,799 the New York Post. You had people who were on 510 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480 the emails saying, yep, I got that email. You had 511 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,920 eyewitness testimony. You had Tony bob Olinski, who was actually 512 00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:42,000 part of the Biden family business, giving not just confirmation 513 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,680 of what was on the laptop, but going so much further, 514 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,079 and only Fox News interviewed him. She also claimed because 515 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,160 Trump references like, you know, you've also suppressed this story 516 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,119 about the Russia collusion hoax and how the how was 517 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,319 my campaign was spied on? And she's like, that's just 518 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,799 made up. That's not made up. They took out fazas 519 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,079 on four Trump campaign folks, what do you think those 520 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:10,240 are four? Those are spy warrants, so you can grab 521 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:13,200 communications not just to the people you're targeting, but anyone 522 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,519 that they've been talking to, and anyone that those people 523 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,480 have been talking to, Like that's the whole point of 524 00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:21,440 the spy warrants. And so she lied about so much stuff, 525 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,079 and she said something like, I'm not lying. I just 526 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,759 don't know what you're talking about. So again, either she's 527 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,160 an idiot or she's a liar or both. But it 528 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,559 was so much worse. And I love that Donald Trump said, 529 00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:34,880 like you're going to be this way, I'm not going 530 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,079 to be on I'm not going to be on your show. 531 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:40,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I have to say I've argued with you 532 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,960 a little bit about this before. I think it's fine, 533 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,319 and I think Jade Vance proves this to go on 534 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,640 a show with people who are aggressive and fight back. 535 00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,039 But now if you have a network that splices together 536 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,119 answers of your opponent refuses to, you know, let people 537 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,039 read the transcripts, I think that's a different level now. 538 00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:00,279 I mean that now you're just changing reality. 539 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,799 Speaker 3: Okay, No, I just have to push back here on this. Yes, 540 00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:07,640 jd Vance is a revelation, and yes jd Vance speaks 541 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,960 for all Americans. But jd Vance is just one out 542 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,319 of thousands of Republican officials, and he is better than 543 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,880 almost every single other Republican official combined, and so like 544 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,839 even him going on ABC News Martha raddits the way 545 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,720 they framed his utter obliteration of Martha raddits was that 546 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 he confirmed Donald Trump's a liar, like they lied even 547 00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:38,000 as they got their asses whooked by JD Vance. And oh, 548 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,799 I shouldn't say that. Sorry, No, it's okay. They lied 549 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,119 even as they got so destroyed by jd Vance. Most 550 00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:48,319 people don't have the skill of a Jdvans And. 551 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: So, oh, please, you know. 552 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: JD Vance is a revelation because we live in an 553 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,640 idiocracy where politicians are cowards and can't give straight answers. 554 00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,599 He gives straight answers. Don't tell me that he is 555 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,519 like a super intellect or something everyone should. 556 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,119 Speaker 2: Be like JD. Vance. They're just a bunch of cowards 557 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:05,839 who don't actually believe in anything. 558 00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: Or they're lazy and they don't do the amount of 559 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,480 work lazy. 560 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,359 Speaker 1: Where they're scared, or they're scared because they don't want 561 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,440 to upset the ABC reporter or the whoever. 562 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,839 Speaker 3: I forget the name of RFK Junior's running mate. It 563 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,799 was like Nicole Stranahan for me, I'm so bad with names. 564 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,480 She had a tweet thing talking about all of these 565 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,599 long form interviews that Donald Trump has done and how 566 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,440 they have changed her perception of him. And I do 567 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:34,160 agree with this like the long form podcast interviews, he's fantastic, 568 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,039 And she picked up on this thing that I also 569 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,400 noticed and was just struck by. He in these friendly environments, 570 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,079 not friendly, but just like more casual environments. He gets 571 00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:47,440 asked tough questions, but in a way that's not so hostile, 572 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,759 so he actually answers them, whether they're about you know, 573 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,240 January six or other issues that are kind of like fraught, 574 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,519 and he's constantly asking the hosts questions about themselves, which 575 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,359 is my experience of working being with him too. You know, 576 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,480 it's kind of weird. His TV personas campaign persona is 577 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:09,279 particularly you know, prior to this moment, I think people 578 00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,359 viewed it as so hostile, but if you actually talk 579 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,720 to him, he's so nice. He asks you about your 580 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,519 life and asks you what you think, and he you know, 581 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,480 it's just a very nice, pleasant conversation, and that comes 582 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,680 out in these podcasts. And it was saying, She was saying, 583 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,279 the media, by becoming this performative caricature of themselves, have 584 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,279 managed to not elicit anything interesting from him too, because 585 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:36,640 they're just all they want to do is destroy, and 586 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,599 so that they don't just like let the conversation naturally happen, 587 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:41,920 and it's been to their detriment. 588 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: Just as an overview of that. I don't do much TV, 589 00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:49,759 but when you do, you have, you know, a shorter segment. 590 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:51,759 You have to like have talking points prepare, you have 591 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:53,559 to get to the point very quickly. There's an art 592 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,599 to it that some people aren't great at. But when 593 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,599 you speak on a podcast and you can, you know, 594 00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:02,079 just riff or extemporaneously speak on whatever, it shows a 595 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,039 different side of people and their intelligence. But I will 596 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:08,119 say this, people like Kamala Harris who don't have a 597 00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:11,480 belief system, more scared to speak, who are always you 598 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,839 can see her mentally going through her file, you know, 599 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,119 her card file, to see what she's supposed to say, 600 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,079 what you want to hear. I think she would have 601 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,960 a tough time on Joe Rogan. We mentioned that before, 602 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:22,440 but we'll see right. 603 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: The extended cut. I do want to say, I don't 604 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,400 think it's that she doesn't have a belief system. I 605 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,000 think it's that she's having to lie about what her 606 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,920 consistent belief system is. She's been pretty consistent her whole life. 607 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,960 She's a far left radical. She supports the most extreme 608 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,279 policy positions you can hold. You know, she likes to 609 00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:44,079 say she was tough on crime. We had a piece 610 00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,519 at the Federalists this weekend showing that one of her 611 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,480 big plans as DA of San Francisco was to not 612 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:58,160 prosecute drug dealers until their third arrest. And everyone else 613 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,799 was like, oh, so you're making sam Fantis basically a 614 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,599 sanctuary city for drug dealers in order to attract them 615 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,839 so that, like, only on their third time will they 616 00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:11,279 ever have a chance of being prosecuted. That's genuine Kamala Harris. 617 00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:13,400 So it's not that she doesn't have a belief system, 618 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960 it's that she's lying about it. And you saw Jonathan 619 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,200 Martin this week last week talk about how she just 620 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,839 needs to do more of the lying about who she is. 621 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,400 I'm like, are you a journalist or not? 622 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, I do think that's true. I don't think 623 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,200 she's she sat down and read marks or anything. But 624 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,720 I do think her instinct is authoritarian always and to 625 00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,160 increase her own power. But I'm just saying she's taken 626 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,400 so many positions, she's walked back so many positions. She 627 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,640 doesn't know what to say anymore. Jade Van sits down, 628 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,400 he talks about the stuff he believes in. I don't Again, 629 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,960 he might be wrong, he might be right, but he 630 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,039 knows what he believes. I don't think Kamala can do that. 631 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,319 I don't think she could do that kind of interview. 632 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,799 And you know, and Donald Trump says whatever comes into 633 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,119 his mind. I mean, he literally is unfiltered, right, I 634 00:33:58,119 --> 00:33:59,160 mean most of the time. 635 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: That always. You know, he's also remarkably consistent himself. Like 636 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,319 you go back to his interviews in the eighties and nineties, 637 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,320 he's talking about China the same way he talks about 638 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,920 them now, like he's just you might might not agree 639 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,559 with it, but he's very consistent. 640 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,119 Speaker 1: Now you can tell when there's a set of stuff 641 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,920 he really believes in, that the trade stuff, you know, 642 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,599 the immigration stuff, when he talks about that, it's consistent. 643 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,199 It's when like he tries to talk about let's say, 644 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,719 you know, social issues and stuff, then he starts, then 645 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,199 you could see his mind working to say the right thing. 646 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,880 But even then sometimes he just will come out up 647 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,119 with something that is obviously just off the cuff. It's 648 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,519 not like he's repeating talking points. I don't ever feel 649 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,039 that with Donald Trump. Say what you will about him, 650 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,280 what did I want? 651 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 2: What? Oh? 652 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's talk about Kamala a little bit here, 653 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:46,760 just to wrap up. And I do think she's panicking. 654 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,800 I don't know. I have to assume that there's internal 655 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,880 polling that tells him what's really going on. She released 656 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,519 this plan, for instance, the other day or today even 657 00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:02,639 maybe on opportunity Agenda for black men, providing one million 658 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,480 loans fully forgivable, twenty k supporting education and training and 659 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,679 so forth. What the last one is legalizing recreational marijuana 660 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,440 to create opportunities for black black Americans to succeed in 661 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,079 this industry. 662 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 663 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty racist to me somehow. What do you 664 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,920 think about that last one? 665 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure if the pandering will work. You 666 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,119 do know that. Okay, So the polls technically should not 667 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:31,360 be alarming her, Right, she's up one point two percent 668 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,400 or something nationally, Like, I. 669 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: Haven't seen any movement in the last week that would 670 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,440 make me feel like, I know there's a vibe shits 671 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,199 blah blah blah, buth. I don't really see it that. 672 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: I can't remember which propaganda, whether it was ABC or NBC, 673 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,000 had a poll on Sunday where their previous poll had 674 00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,000 had Kamala up five points, but their latest poll had 675 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,400 it tied. All the direction does seem to be moving 676 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,360 in Trump's favor and against Kamala. But my point is 677 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,679 being technically she's up in the polls. So why is 678 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,199 everybody panicking so much? Well, partly it's because Donald Trump 679 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,760 is up in the battleground states, and because we are 680 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,679 a constitutional republic where we're elected through the electoral college, 681 00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:16,079 that gives him an advantage for winning the electoral college. 682 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,320 And the other thing is that her placement in the 683 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,360 polls relative to Biden and Hillary Clinton is like really bad. 684 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,719 So she's like eight nine points behind where Biden was. 685 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,760 And again, Biden won by forty three thousand votes across 686 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,880 three states, so she's well behind where she wants to be. 687 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,280 She's behind where Hillary Clinton was and Hillary Clinton lost, 688 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,639 so even though she definitely could win, and we don't 689 00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:45,760 know what ballot operations are in play that warranton play 690 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,039 four years ago, And I will just flag one in 691 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,559 particular that keeps me up at night, which is yuakava ballots, 692 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:57,599 which are overseas ballots the Biden administration has made grabbing 693 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,199 ballots from overseas. Technical Americans like a high priority, and 694 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,360 there are millions of these people. And some states don't 695 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,280 really require that you lived in that state before you 696 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,039 file a ballot from that state. I think Michigan and 697 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,519 North Carolina are two that have very lax rules on this. 698 00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:21,199 So nobody should be complacent. You know, Kamala shouldn't be 699 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,159 complacent because she's well behind where her predecessors were. But 700 00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:28,719 Trump supporters shouldn't be complacent because who knows what kind 701 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,280 of shenanigans they've developed over the last four years and 702 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,039 how difficult it will be to detect them in real time. 703 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,639 So if they want to win, they need to understand 704 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,960 it's not about polls, it's about moving those ballots into 705 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,559 the boxes. 706 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: I just wanted to again stress that of her five 707 00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:49,639 point plan, one of the points is to create more 708 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:55,280 or create black drug dealers selling pot. Now, listen, I 709 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,320 am still generally for allowing people to ingest whatever they 710 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,159 want in their body, but the idea that the black 711 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:04,960 American that this is something they should aspire to rather 712 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,079 than helping them become engineers, helping them have small businesses 713 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,679 of their own, and all kinds of other growing industries 714 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,679 in this country, but to specifically talk about the pot. 715 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 3: It is definitely pandering and it seems to embrace some 716 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,880 of the derogatory stereotypes about black men. But the campaign 717 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,559 in general has done a very bad job with black men. 718 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:36,760 They normally at any Democrat will get nearly every black 719 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,679 voter supporting them, and we are on pace for the 720 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:47,280 worst Democrat vote total for Black Americans since like nineteen sixty. 721 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 I mean, it's really really bad. Kama Harris is not 722 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,760 performing well. But they had Barack Obama come out and 723 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,840 chastise black men for not voting for her being enthusiastic, 724 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,679 and it went over very poorly with a lot of 725 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,599 black men who are like, Okay, so she can pick 726 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,599 a white husband, but I can't pick a white presidential 727 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:08,519 candidate who's better for me and my family? Like where 728 00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:10,320 do you get off telling me I have to vote 729 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480 for someone because she has a black dad, even though 730 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:17,280 you know, like it's also like highlighting how different from 731 00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,960 many black families Kamala Harris is. She wants to be 732 00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:26,239 perceived as like black Mama Kamala, but it's not like 733 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,639 Barack Obama, who also had you know, is abandoned by 734 00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:32,960 his black father raised by a white mother. But Mary's 735 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,320 a black woman and has black children and is like 736 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,639 just sort of more comfortable I think with his black 737 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:42,639 family identity than she is. But then they're trying to 738 00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,400 like race bait people into feeling guilty if they don't 739 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:45,960 vote for her. 740 00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: I think there's two factors for why Donald Trump's doing 741 00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:54,239 better with black males. One is a lot of people 742 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,320 knew Donald Trump before he was in politics, from watching 743 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,360 him on TV and just in culture, and they just 744 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,760 aren't that easily scaremongered into being scared of him, right. 745 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:05,960 And then the second one is I think when you 746 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,079 have economic distress, and obviously black men like everyone else, 747 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:15,760 feel that that is an issue that will allow you 748 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,599 to vote for some other party more than some cultural 749 00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:19,480 issue or whatever. 750 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:20,159 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 751 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:24,079 Speaker 3: I do have we thought about how apparently suburban women 752 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,000 and white women are coming out for Kamalaw more than 753 00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:32,280 you would expect given her level of intelligence and policy 754 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,000 proposals like what's up with that? 755 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,559 Speaker 1: It's kind of can't I can't speak to how women think, 756 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:39,800 that's for sure, or something that's not in my wheelhouse, 757 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,079 So I don't know why they would do that. 758 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: But I would say that maybe abortion's part of it. 759 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:47,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a love of violence in the womb for 760 00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:50,519 some women, or maybe a guilt associated with things they've 761 00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:53,719 done to their unborn in the womb. I don't know, 762 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,760 but it just is like, just because you're a woman 763 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,679 doesn't mean you have to be stupid. 764 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: I think that many of them, at least people who 765 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,519 aren't really paying close attention, understand how radical the lef's 766 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:10,119 position on abortion. On abortion is that maybe I'm rationalizing 767 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440 or justifying their positions because to me it's so immoral 768 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,159 that I can't really grasp it. 769 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,079 Speaker 2: But maybe they just don't get it. 770 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 3: Do you remember the Life of Julia Barack Obama's pitch, 771 00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,559 I sure do, Okay, so in twenty twelve, I think 772 00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:25,960 that was he's he comes out for this like life 773 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,239 of Julia, and the life of Julia is one where 774 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,079 she doesn't really have a healthy family. She never has 775 00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,280 a husband, she doesn't have a boyfriend, but she does 776 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,920 have a kid. She hasn't a father, like, she's just 777 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,679 on her own, and it's about sort of the life 778 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,159 of Julia is one where the government comes in and 779 00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,920 becomes her family. That was the big pitch, and it 780 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,360 kind of worked, like as part of the war on 781 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,920 women messaging that also was from the Obama campaign. You know, 782 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,880 the whole goal is to keep you single and able 783 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,440 to kill your offspring, Like that's the whole Democrat policy agenda, 784 00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:01,119 like you don't need a man will sadize your existence. 785 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,880 And so you see that married women tend to vote 786 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840 Republican and single women tend to vote Democrat. It creates 787 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:10,519 perverse incentives for Democrats, like they want to keep women 788 00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:13,679 single so they can keep in power. But we also 789 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,159 know that happiness tends to you know, women who are 790 00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,519 in healthy, happy families are happy obviously, and they report 791 00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,400 much greater satisfaction with their lives. And so if we 792 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,800 actually cared about women, we would want to be having 793 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,159 of course, family friendly policies and a family friendly culture. 794 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,880 But that's just not what we get. We get like, 795 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,440 you can kill your babies and it doesn't matter how 796 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,199 violent you want to be, We'll let you do that, 797 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,199 which is a weird pitch. I'm just surprised women are 798 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,119 going for it. 799 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I wish we stressed more, and perhaps Republicans 800 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,199 do that being married brings economic success personal fulfillment and happiness, 801 00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:51,119 you know all, you know, just a better retirement, a 802 00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,920 better life. But you know, so, I don't know how 803 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400 much much government policies can make people do that. 804 00:42:56,519 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, so is that it? Do you want to 805 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,679 talk about culture? 806 00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: Sure, although I don't really have anything to report other 807 00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:12,079 than I finished No the TV series Nobody Wants This, 808 00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:19,639 Oh Rabbi, and he's dating a sex podcaster and there's 809 00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:21,800 a lot to not like about it. But it's just 810 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,360 a very well written show. I'm not sure. I feel 811 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,519 like it's not, you know, family friendly content. 812 00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:33,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, I have nothing. I have been 813 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,800 very busy, but I did go on a record buying spree. 814 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,320 Do you think people will be bored if I just 815 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,800 go through on? 816 00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:40,679 Speaker 3: No? 817 00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: I think you do think they will be I got 818 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,360 the Kinks Arthur in the Fall of the British Empire. 819 00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:48,480 Do you like the Kinks? 820 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,559 Speaker 3: I love the Kinks? 821 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: An Evening with Mike Nichols and Ellen May Oh. 822 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,639 Speaker 3: I think Ellen May, Ellen May Wait, I have not 823 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:01,000 so funny? 824 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is an old one. I found this 825 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,719 in a thrift. Robert Fripp and Brian eno Oh. 826 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,519 Speaker 3: I think I have that. 827 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: XDC. How many did you get like twelve? 828 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,559 Speaker 1: Okay, Bonnie Prince Billy who I love The Letting Go. 829 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:26,039 I highly recommend this album. The Violent Themes third album, 830 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,480 The Blind Leading the Naked, which is I think underrated. 831 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,480 They the lead singer was a religious Baptist and these 832 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,960 songs about are about Christianity, and I think a lot 833 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,360 of people thought he was being sarcastic, but he's being 834 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,000 completely earnest about it. This is one of this I 835 00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,400 just saw. It was just in Priestine. Condition Herb alberts 836 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,000 t Want to Brass and the Whim That is. 837 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 3: One of the best covers of all time. Obviously, yes, 838 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,519 not whipped Cream, but. 839 00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: Love it is that true. 840 00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always on the lookout for these because I 841 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,000 know you have a most all of them, so I'm 842 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,440 always trying to find like rare Ones. 843 00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:06,039 Speaker 3: I think I have the world's largest herbalper collection. I 844 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:10,800 have foreign import you know, got stuff from Japan and 845 00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:13,599 various South American countries like I've got it all. 846 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,039 Speaker 1: A double album of the Hard Quartet. This is a 847 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,000 band with me with Steve Malchmiss of Pavement in it 848 00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:22,920 and others. It's excellent if you're into that sort of thing. Sorry, 849 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,639 I'll do this quick. Another XDC album, The Big Express. 850 00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:27,559 I would say, this is not a great album of 851 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:28,679 theirs Christian. 852 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,519 Speaker 3: Huh, they're not Christian. Just kidding because you were talking about. 853 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: The Other Party and Tom Waits Blood Money. 854 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:39,199 Speaker 3: How did you get these? 855 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,599 Speaker 2: I went nuts online. 856 00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 3: So one of our listeners was telling me that I 857 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,000 need to dunk on you next time you say something. Okay, 858 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,639 so this is what you said. You need to dunk 859 00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:52,960 on Harsani next time he says something like I went 860 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,400 to the Stone Temple sex Pistols concert on Sunday, and 861 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,519 then you'll just say, oh, I find punk metal, so banal, 862 00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:05,760 my craves, my daughter singing a eque hobbit shown air 863 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,559 blicktt but you know, to each his own de Gustavus 864 00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:11,960 non aced disputandem. Okay, so the reference is because my 865 00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:15,760 daughter is now in a Bach collegium which they sing 866 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,480 these beautiful you know Bach pintatas, and this person. 867 00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: You should tell this person that you were the one 868 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239 more likely to go to a sex pistol whatever concert 869 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,320 than me. I went into one concert in. 870 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: Like ten years. 871 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 3: I was like, by the way, the last concert David 872 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,079 went to was with my husband's okay. He's like, okay, 873 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:38,079 So what you should say is so I put on 874 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,880 David'll say. 875 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: So. 876 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 3: I put on my hemp knit cap and went down 877 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,320 to this cool little vinyl shop in Williamsburg, the hip 878 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,800 one in Brooklyn, not the antique one, to pick up 879 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,400 a compilation of lionel Richie's greatest hits, and it totally slaps. 880 00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:52,519 And then you're supposed to say, I'm so say, have 881 00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:55,440 I mentioned that my daughter sings counterpoint in German every 882 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,039 single Sunday? So anyway, this is my this is we 883 00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:03,639 have a really professional, wonderful music program at our church, and. 884 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:06,559 Speaker 2: So I am going to a concert on Thursday. This week. 885 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to go see jazz guitarist Julian Layish. I 886 00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:17,719 think you pronounce it at the local place over here. Yep, 887 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,039 that's all I have. I did not watch. 888 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 3: Any time Elaine Elaine May. 889 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 2: Elaine May. I'm sorry. 890 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,079 Speaker 3: I kept on butchering and I was like, that's wrong. 891 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,679 My mom loves Elaine May and I love her movies 892 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,639 and all that, so okay, that's it. 893 00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:35,119 Speaker 1: Her daughter is also. I think in movies Elaine May 894 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,639 may have directed Ishtar. 895 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: I believe she did. 896 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love all of her movies. 897 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: So because I'm keeping a professional, this week I will 898 00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:49,239 mention that you can write us emails and give us 899 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,840 suggestions or make mock us at radio. At the Federalist 900 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,559 dot com, we'd like to hear from you. Want to 901 00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:56,559 mention that I have a book coming out in a 902 00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:58,239 little bit called The Rise of Blue and on how 903 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,119 the Democrats became the Party of spiracy theorists. 904 00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: Do you have anything? 905 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,519 Speaker 3: Buy that now? Right? They buy it? They should buy 906 00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:09,119 it before it comes out, so that then on the 907 00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,079 day it comes out, it has a really nice launch. 908 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,599 Speaker 1: That would be great if they go they feel like it. Yeah, 909 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,280 it's uh, yeah, it's hard on it. I think it's 910 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,519 a good book. But yeah, so I appreciate that, Molly, 911 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480 and we'll talk next week. You have anything else, all right? 912 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,039 So until next week everyone, until then be lovers of 913 00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:40,000 freedom and anxious for the fray.