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Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually

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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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to bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you

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walk in the woods, you walk in their front door,

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thinking that you were going to surprise them, You're only

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kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads

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that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in

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my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures

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right now is by listening to and talking to those

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that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and

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experienced them in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away

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as to this topic to be an open door for

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somebody to walk through, to be able to share.

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Speaker 3: Their story, a listening ear, a support hold for those

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who have had their own encounters with that which is

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not supposed to exist.

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Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes, people, there is something

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out there. All of these thousands of people that have

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seen something. They're not all aligned, they're not all crazy.

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There are some very reputable, good people out there that

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have seen something.

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Speaker 2: But when I'm excited, I talk real fast.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell everybody why you're excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited because we have this gentleman scheduled before, and

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he was feeling a little under the weather and took

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a nap, and his nap was a little long, so

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we rescheduled him and brought him back here. And Wayne

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is actually going to be a speaker with him at

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Spirit of the Forest Bigfoot Festival this year. And y'all,

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the audio that I have from this gentleman is amazing.

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I mean, I have no words for it. So I'm

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excited that he was able to get everything rescheduled and

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come back on with us. So Mike Miller is here

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this evening.

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Speaker 1: All right, very cool. We've got to hang out and

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chat with Mike for a few minutes before we came on.

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She'd like a good dude. I am very excited that

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I get to meet him in person here in a

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couple few months up in Ohio in his neck of

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the woods at the Spirit of the Forest festival. All right,

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we're just going to go ahead and bring Mike out. Yeah, Mike,

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what's up, buddy?

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Speaker 2: But you doing Hey, thanks.

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Speaker 4: For coming, Thanks having me on, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doing very well. Thank you so much, buddy for

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taking the time to come and hang out with us tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Super cool. You're you are in Ohio, right, you're saying,

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can you tell us like around what part I live.

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like southwest over towards the Indiana border.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, very cool. So that's the area that you research.

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Speaker 4: There's stuff that's happened here, but we mainly research Adams County.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, take us back to the beginning, man, What started?

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What what happened to get you going down this crazy road?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was interested in in Bigfoot and

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UFOs and LOCKDSK. I watched any show on that growing

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up as a I watched all that and kept watching

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it as I got older, and never thought I'd do

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anything like that. And I don't know about seventeen years ago,

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on local news channel Channel seven, I lived in Hebrew

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sighting in Ohio, and I thought that sounded crazy because

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back then I didn't think Ohio had big enough sections

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of woods for anything like that. I thought that would

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have to all be you know, in the south and

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the swamps, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, places like that. And

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I laughed, but it kind of, I don't know, kind

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of started something inside. And I decided to get on

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the internet that night, and I tacked in Ohio in

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Bigfoot and I stumbled into the BFRO website and I

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clicked on Ohio and I expected to see, you know,

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just a report or two, and I was just blown

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and they were listed by county. So I clicked in

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the county I lived in, and I clicked on the

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counties I knew and started reading them, and you know,

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a lot of them. I still laughed and thought, you know,

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it was by your own shadow you were scared of.

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you know, stuff like that. But a couple of stories

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guy in southwest Ohio said he didn't know what was

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in his backyard, but he had a five year old

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male German shepherd. And I'm partial to the German shepherds.

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door was open, so the outside glass door was shut.

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the house, ran to the furthest point away in the house,

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curled up, frightened and peede itself. And those do that,

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and that caught my attention. And then there was a

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another report outside just north of here, over by, like

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north of the airport, and the lady had her kids

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along the river. They started hearing whistling. Her kids whistled back.

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she said the whistles went so high up in octave.

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were coming out. It was right at dusk and supposedly

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seen it had have therapy. She called the police. You know,

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it was a big to do, And I thought that

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was insane. I thought, that's only I don't know, twenty

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miles or so from the freaking airport, no way, And

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I decided that year, way back then, to go look

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at that area, just mainly for the s and giggles

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of it, you know, just to say, hey, I went

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to where a Bigfoot report happened and I went there.

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we walked back in there to printed the report, walked

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down in there, and it was woolier back there than

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river to move along. And you know, found some evidence

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back in there, found you know, trees, you know, the structures,

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the stuff that didn't make sense. And then then the

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over and this was during the daytime. Just the whole

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feeling of being being watched and everything, and this kind

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of struck me again. And basically what happened, long story short,

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and I didn't think I was going to find much.

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much like hey, what heck's that? And I got sucked

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more I found that. I didn't expect that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I'm glad that you brought up

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the whole bfro thing because I've said it many many

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times I will continue to say it no matter what

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you think about the organization as a whole, that database

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that they have collected and maintained is phenomenal. Like you said,

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you go on there and you can pull it up

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your state by county. Anytime I'm going to a new area,

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county I'm going to be in, and how many reports,

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how many encounters have been reported. So it's a very

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valuable tool.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is. And I found some people on the

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internet that were in Ohio and they started sending me

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blurry pictures, you know, blobs pictures, and they were up

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the reports, you know, I drive ups, they got a

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map out, start looking like I don't know about anything

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being there. But anyway, Dann Moser, who's outside of Springfield,

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he hooked me up with a guy named George Taylor

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who's originally from Minnesota. He took me underwing, and we

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would go to a park in Miami County Cultural Halls,

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and he pretty much took me there during the daytime.

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my life, bigfoot life. And we would go to this

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park and we would go off the trails, even though

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you're not supposed to do that. Don't do that, kids,

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but he would show. He showed me the difference between

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storm damage, natural and unnatural damage. And I seen some

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crazy stuff. I seen trees bent at crazy angles, driven

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back into the ground. I see a tree bent over,

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and a tree was dragged from about fifty yards. They

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actually broke this other tree at the base and dragged

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it about fifty yards and then laid it in a

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these others and a person.

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it would leave marks on the on the tree. And

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sorry I'm talking my hands. Anyway, everything above you was

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was intact growing, you know, undamaged. Tell something was going

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through there and it was helped a lot bigger than

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a deer. And these trees were probably I don't know,

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two three inches maybe two inches maybe three inches down

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snapped and laid in the same direction. Now, if the

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just going to damage these trees, you know. It's like

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the sting walked through there and did that. And another

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thing crazy about that. And I didn't take pictures back

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didn't think i'd ever find anything, so know, that was

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up some smaller limbs and tried to duplicate that. I

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couldn't do that.

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encounters of the twist snap trees coming out yep.

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Speaker 4: And then back then we'd see those little like kind

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of little miniature kind of teepee things, you know, and

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more of them and noticing that some or many are

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right along a game trail, I believe those are their

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version of a deer blonde and they in there and

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it's an ambusher. But that's just my theory.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing. It's a good theory. I mean, I

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think if we investigated more people's theories, we would be

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a little bit further than where we are, yeah, instead

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of thinking everything's bs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But that led to you know, the Internet, when

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you start clicking on stuff, you know they're watching you.

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I might have stuff in common with, or articles and

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stuff like that. But a pretty much long story short

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led me to a person that was on Facebook named

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Mark that was in Ohio. He lives in Trenton area,

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and I thought, well, at least this guy's in Ohio

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and I can talk to him. He's not California or

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Watchington or whatever. And so I started talking to him

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and he invited me going to night hike. So I went,

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you know, because I don't know who these people are.

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I don't want to disappear, you know, you know, you know,

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did my due diligence. But I went to his place,

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Mendiguy named Mike Feldner, and we went on this night hike. First,

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we did some we actually came to Preble County and

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investigated a report, but we don't we didn't think anything

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was there. It was this kind of I don't know,

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this nothing concrete, you know. Yeah, And so we went

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my first night hike that night. And this we didn't

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that was it. And then when that was a bus,

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we drove all the way over there. Anyway, we hiked

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a couple of miles or so, and I'm along for

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the ride. You know, I don't have any recording the devices.

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an observer, you know. And these guys did wood knocks,

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they did a couple of howls, nothing happened, rains kind

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of picks up, you know. We sat back there a

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couple hours how long, and nothing's going on, and then

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they decide, hey, let's go, let's pack it up. And

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I'm thinking, hey, this is great. I've went on a

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night hike for the first time. Looks like I'm going

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to survive it. And you know, and cross that off

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and I'm still on the fence, you know, with the

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blurry pictures, and I've heard some great stories and you know,

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I'm still on the fence about Ohio. I really am.

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And not even ten minutes into that walk is where

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things change for me. We started out of there and

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it was in a few minutes and something through a

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big freaking rocket.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more, but the big flop report. We'll

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be right back.

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Speaker 4: And I you know, as a teenager, you know, I

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through rocks, had trained and do that, and you kind

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of know how big a rock is by what how

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it sounds. So it's not just my fear. I'm out

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in the woods with no light on and I'm embellishing

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or it's not as big as I think, you know,

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and like a fishing story. But when this rock was

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in flight, you couldn't see it. But as it hit branches,

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it bounced off the branches. It was snapping the branches

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that hit, which means it's big, right, And it hit

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a tree over by me with a lot of forts,

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bounced off and tumbled end over end, you know, And

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that freaked me the hell out. And we still had

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I don't know, maybe an hour to hike out of

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there at that point, and I really got worried because

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I was in the back of the line and anyone

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who's seen a horror movie knows what's what happens to

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the person in the back of the line. Here screwed.

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Speaker 2: You know you're gonna die.

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Speaker 4: And we I doubted there. Nothing happened for a while.

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We got to a point where the woods came right

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up on that path, and I thought, this is it.

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This is an ampy point. And enough we got to

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that point, and more rocks were thrown sailing over our head,

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breaking branches were ducking down, and at that point I

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didn't think I was going to get out of there.

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I didn't think I was going to see my kid

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grow up no longer.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: It was probably six or seven at the time, and

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I started seeing the Lord's prayer under my breath the

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way we hiked out of there, until we got off

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of that area onto like the main trail whatever. And

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at that point I knelt down, kissed the freaking grind

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out And that's for real. And I went home and

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I quit. I retired. That was too intense for me.

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I didn't expect that, and I was done right. I

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had all way and think about it, and of course

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it ain't at me, you know what was going on.

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But at that point I decided a three inch knife

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and a walking stick weren't going to cut it anymore. Amen,

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I can still carry permit, just for peace of mind,

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you know. And of course you know where I work,

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I work for ups. They're they're laughing at me, and

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they're like, oh, somebody did that. Teenagers did that. I

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go on an October night, which raining forty degrees, and

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every kid's on the internet now, but they don't even

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leave the house. And of all the miles of trails

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in this park, they're gonna pick that one and say, hey,

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let's go hang out in case big thunders come around

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the rocks at them and to be close enough to

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throw rock that big, you're gonna be close enough where

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you could see shot. Right, and if somebody's throwing a

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rock at me and I can figure that out, you know,

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somebody's going to get pounded, you know, and exactly, and

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so it wasn't no freaking kids.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, let me ask you real quick first off,

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like why do you think they do that? Do you

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think y'all were like encroaching on something.

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Speaker 4: They want you out of there when they're throwing rocks,

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they want you out of there. That's because they do.

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Speaker 6: It with.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, go ahead, Oh it's okay.

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Speaker 2: They do it with such precision because you know, if

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they wanted to hit you, they could, they could just

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knock your head clean off your shoulders. But they do

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it just enough to scare the star out of you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they want you to leave. Yeah, we had an

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incident probably three years ago. It was the COVID years there,

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you know, when all that was going on, and we

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went to an area and we've kind of changed our

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dynamic up. Instead of wood knocks and house done by

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members are using a call blaster that's got real animal

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sounds embedded on it and the trick trick whatever you know,

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and we'll call we call blasted. We'll talk for normal

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voice for thirty forty minutes to see if anything happens.

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And if nothing happens, and mind you, this is in

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pitch dark, this pitch black, no light on it. If

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nothing happens, then we'll call blast a wolf alley, or

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we'll call blast coyotes. But this night we did a wolf,

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then we did wolves holley, and after the halting played,

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we got a response, and I think it was a

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young one that actually came across the ridge and down

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towards us and then stopped. Not a deer. A deer

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does not. When a deer's in distress, it sets down,

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lays down, It doesn't come towards whatever is there that's

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distressing it. And what I believe happened night is the

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real wolf sound trick. A young one caared it, called out,

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and about twenty minutes later when the cavalry showed up,

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they didn't find coyotes or wolves, but they found us

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back there where no one's ever there, and they started

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bombing with rocks and this time, it was different. They

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hit the vehicles, they damaged them. Oh my gosh, back

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the MIC's windshield, they batter ran my jeep. I mean

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I really thought. I thought. I said that night, I said,

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I should have brought a football helmet because I'm I'm

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going to take one off the log in here in

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a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's scary.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: That is scary. And I have if you want to

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go ahead and get into the audio, I have the

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is that the jeep rock. Yes, okay, let's go ahead,

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and let's go ahead and play that.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: That was a lot of chaos.

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Speaker 4: I can't play it. I can't hear it.

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Speaker 2: Oh you can't hear it. Can anybody in the chot

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hear it?

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Speaker 4: As long as they hear it, that's what matters.

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Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, Troy said that they can hear it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Jeep rock, it was. It was a lot of chaos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The first rock actually hit. I had. I have

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a twenty two inch parabolic microphone. It's plugged into a

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recorder and I used it on top of jeep and

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face it towards the lucky direction. I kind of guess

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hit that. It actually skittered across the top and I

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had my moon roof open and went down on the floorboard.

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We found the rock on the floorboard.

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Speaker 2: That is definitely a Code Brown kind of moment. Yeah, Donna,

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we had her on Tuesday and she was talking about

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how and that might have been an incident. She was

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talking about when you guys had done the cob blast

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and got more than what you probably bargained for.

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Speaker 4: But we didn't. We didn't know her yet her yet

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when that happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's pull up.

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Speaker 4: Do you have the Angry Giant one?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I do it somewhere. I have the I'm

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pretty sure I'll put that on there. I have the bridge,

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the whistle Rock, the hidden Valley, the graveyard too, the scream,

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the oo ah okay, whistle Rock too, and then the

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gep rock.

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Speaker 4: What about the hidden Valley? Does this a hidden belly giant.

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Speaker 2: Or something hidden bevalley? Angry Giant?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was not this past Memorial Day, but last

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year's Memorial Day and Donna was there for that one,

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and we the on the recording it doesn't have the

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wolf howl ended that out, but after we played the

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wolf howling, you're gonna hear right off the bat for

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the coyote and maybe something else. But then Big Daddy

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comes in and it's almost like he's saying, hey, mister wolf,

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this is my freaking yard, not yours.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's play that one. You know, you let

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me know if you can hear it when when.

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Speaker 7: It ends, Okay, that's some monks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is frightening.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about the beginning and the end of that,

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but that one in the middle there that was not

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a coyote or wolf. And David Ellis has analyzed that

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and and shared that with me. He's analyzed a ton

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of the audio that's been recorded where he said he

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can't stay it's big foot. Bigfoot's not been certified. He

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can't say that we have recorded no known animal in

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North America, and some of those screens that's been recorded

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because he not only his computer program identifies the sounds.

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Every living thing in North America is in his database,

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whether it's a coyote, dog, he also can tell if

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it's a person using something to try to sound like

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something because he he amies audio for the police and

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Fire Department, FBI and all that. So he's got toys

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and day I loved hassing them toys anyway. He said

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that he watches the sound clips on a spectrograph. It

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shows where they go on the Hurts band. And he

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told us that a coyote is nine hunderd to twelve hundred.

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It's never blow, it's never above that, and so on

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and so on. And he said that some of these

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screens that we recorded mainly me actually, but some of

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those peg tires and the baboon on a spectrograph and

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that was in County, Ohio. And that's evidence.

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Speaker 2: That's wild. Let's do some more of pe don't mind.

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I could listen to these forever because they're so good.

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I am more an audio girl than I am a

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picture girl. Like, give me audio every day, all day.

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Speaker 4: That's that's me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because you can break it down.

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Speaker 4: Yes, in a picture, you can't. A picture depends on

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how good the picture is, but you're gonna run into

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problems with pickles. And tracks are great. But you know,

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doctor Meldrim's kind of the you know, he's way up

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here and he's that's he's the master of that, you know.

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So I'm like, he's got that covered. You know. Audio

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is special for me because it happened. You know, tracks

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can be found, they can do. They happen that day,

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day before, a week before, a month before, a year before.

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Audio happened the night you were there, and you can

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go back and listen. We listened to it over and

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over and then you can send it to people like

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David Ellis and have an analytt h.

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Speaker 2: So let's do bridge LUs baboo.

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Speaker 4: This was the one that picked higher than the baboon

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the first one.

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Speaker 8: Yes, what in the hell is going to be in

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in Hawaiio sounding like that?

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Speaker 4: That's not a coyote, dog anything else. That's the David

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Ellis added is what I call it. As you notice

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he looped it three times and he subdued the coyotes

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because the original one the coyotes are going off with it.

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But you can tell they're two different things because you know,

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the coyotes are higher pitch, they're a little bit more yippy,

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you know, do all that, and at the end of

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that hell, he's actually going the thing is actually mimicking

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the coyotes at the end.

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Speaker 2: That's so bizarre. So what is your opinion? And I

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believe that Wayne had asked on to this, and what

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is your opinion about the coyotes traveling with the Bigfoot.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's some kind of correlation. I kind of

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look at it, like a shark and a remora and

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then other other fish and stuff in the ocean and animals.

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I think maybe they're scavenging and off each other or something.

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There's something going on there.

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Speaker 2: Well, so many people are like, oh my god, that's

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so far fetched. Why would Bigfoot have a freaking dog? Well,

472
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because it's it's different than that. It's it's the animal kingdom.

473
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,440
It's not like a person owning a dog. And it's

474
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,359
like you mentioned, you know, in the ocean. But people

475
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:32,279
are just they have their own narrative and they just

476
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:33,039
close it off.

477
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,039
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I don't think you know, it's it's

478
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:39,599
their pet dog or something, you know, a coyote curling

479
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,559
up with the big Foot by the fire netflix or something.

480
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,960
You know, but they know there's going to be food

481
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:50,319
food involved, just like uh, you know, wolves take down

482
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:53,759
a creature, you know, the crows come around, the crows turn,

483
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440
and I think, and you know the wolves don't like that,

484
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,799
but you know, uh, they coexist with all that kind

485
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:02,319
of stuff. And I think it's that kind of relationship.

486
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
But you know, I can be wrong. It's just I'm

487
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,200
just my guess.

488
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:10,119
Speaker 1: You know, stay tuned for more. But the Big Clipper

489
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,920
for us, we'll be right back.

490
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Well. And I've always said that if you look at

491
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,720
the animal Kingdom, you're going to be able to find

492
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,319
out more because it's the same with the you know,

493
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:25,359
whales breaching to get creole and the seagulls being right there. Yep,

494
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,319
it's the same thing. So let's get into because our

495
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,440
audience is all about the audio as well, So let's

496
00:30:34,599 --> 00:31:05,519
look at whistle Rock. H Oh, there he is.

497
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bought myself off. Sorry, that was That's okay.

498
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: Did you want me to play whistle Rock again? Yes,

499
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:40,599
if you don't mind, yeah, absolutely, So talk about that one.

500
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: That was the next like the first night or the

501
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,720
first time we went, and the jeep Rock one about

502
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,559
two weeks later we went back and uh, that time

503
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,119
we set we set up equipment ups and the chairs

504
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,480
up and we didn't even call blast and they already

505
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,319
started throwing stuff. And a little bit later that night. Normally,

506
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:05,240
if you came up to me and said, here's a

507
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,319
million dollars, do a really good whistle, and I'd be going.

508
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,799
That's about how it would be. And somehow that night,

509
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,160
I don't know how I did those three whistles. I

510
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,359
was able to go up an octave on each one,

511
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:21,240
and they did not like that, and they threw a

512
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:22,880
rock at me and hit hit my jeep.

513
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: That's insane. All right, let's get into what's can we do?

514
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 6: The the ah ah okay, that one's my favorite.

515
00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker 4: Yeah that David Ellis isolated that to show the change

516
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,359
of the pitch, because that's and that's why I titled

517
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,119
wahooh is because that's what it's doing. And coyotes and

518
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,640
stuff don't do that. They don't fluctuate octaves and pitches.

519
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,039
You know, you've got to be a primate to sound

520
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:17,599
out bowel sounds. And that's what that thing's doing. David

521
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,519
is actually compiling across the United States right now, all

522
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,400
these different audio samples that have been recorded across the

523
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,119
United States where there's some kind of hint of language

524
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,880
or or mut if you want to call it music.

525
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,920
I don't know where the thing's going ooh ooh. You know,

526
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,799
I'm not saying it singing, but it's it's doing something different.

527
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,799
It's not just screaming. Or howling, and he's collecting all

528
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,319
those trying to do kind of like a Rosetta stone,

529
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:49,440
you know, kind of with that, which I think is

530
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,440
insanely exciting. And I'm fortunate that you know, David's using

531
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,200
some of the stuff that you know, that we've recorded

532
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,759
in that project.

533
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that really does sound like it's singing, and

534
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,839
I think that's why I'm just like, yes, that's my

535
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,800
favorite one. Let's go to the let's go to the scream.

536
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 9: Okay, there ain't nothing in the ones that can do that.

537
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's changing tone and pitch and I almost sing

538
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,599
to me, that one is calling out almost it almost

539
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,039
sounds lonely in a way.

540
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 2: It was very mournful sound, and I let it play

541
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,360
a couple of times. It did. It sounded very morful.

542
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,119
Speaker 4: Either something happened or it's or it's looking for something

543
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,960
or you know, in one of its kind. You know, Mom,

544
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,840
I don't know what you call it, but it's something's

545
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,599
happened there and that thing is crying out. That's It's

546
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:22,480
a definite. There's a different emotion tied to that audio clip,

547
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,880
different from the other.

548
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Ones exactly, now, do you think because I know everything

549
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,639
we talk about is speculation because nobody has one. But

550
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,800
do you think when they get kicked out of their

551
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480
family group, like do they do you think they would

552
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:43,440
share the emotion like of being angry that they were

553
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:47,960
kicked out or they're you know, sad. Maybe I'm just

554
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:49,480
humanizing them.

555
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 4: I don't know that. See, we don't know. I mean, yeah,

556
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,559
there seems to be groups of them. And but at

557
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:59,760
some age do they kick like the younger males out

558
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,480
m h to do their own kingdom or whatever you

559
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
want to call it. I don't know, yeah, could you

560
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,159
everybody's guess.

561
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,599
Speaker 2: It, you know, yeah, well, and that's all we can do.

562
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,320
But I just want to bring everything to the table

563
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,320
and be like, look, what is this? What could this be?

564
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,239
What could this be? Because you hear of encounters where

565
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,000
some people are saying they look like they have been brushed,

566
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,159
and then others are like, you know, madded and just nasty.

567
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,360
And some speculate that it's because you know, the ones

568
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,079
who are groomed are in a family group and the

569
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,199
ones who are not have been kicked out. So I

570
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:41,079
was just curious, makes sense, I would think. So let's

571
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:43,199
see graveyard two Ellis.

572
00:36:44,960 --> 00:37:00,159
Speaker 10: Let's listen to this one.

573
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: That's the second part. That's that's from October eleventh, twenty fourteen.

574
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,880
That was the events that put us on the TV

575
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,360
show Tear in the Woods. Then they pretty much took

576
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,159
the same story and put it on the show These

577
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,639
Woods are Haunted. It was on a different channel, so

578
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,360
they call the show something different. But that was at

579
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,239
the graveyard that night. There's a section before that, but

580
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,840
that one kind of shows and it does have the

581
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:48,559
cussing in it, but that one shows that thing howling

582
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:49,840
over top the coyotes.

583
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your opinion on the correlation between Bigfoot

584
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,519
and graveyards.

585
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: I don't know. I need to be kind of fascinated

586
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,719
for some reason, you know, I don't know, cause you

587
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,559
hear the same.

588
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: The same thing with dog man and grape yards. So

589
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,119
I was just curious.

590
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what's the dog man thing? But

591
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,920
I don't Sorry, what's that?

592
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: And I said, no, you're good.

593
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 4: But uh, I don't know. It's maybe because it's I

594
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,840
don't know that area in the because some of them

595
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,719
brave yards, like the one we went into, it's the

596
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,320
middle of nowhere and it's there's there's trees and brush, everywhere,

597
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000
and all of a sudden, you've got kind of a smooth, nice,

598
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:41,159
kind of cleared area. And uh, you know, maybe they

599
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:46,480
you know, I think they they probably watch people get buried.

600
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000
I don't know they maybe they understand what that is,

601
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:49,400
you know.

602
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:55,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if they bury their own, you know that's

603
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:57,840
been speculated too. They bury their own, and that's why

604
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,519
nobody can ever find a body. Or it's all love

605
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:02,400
for interpretation.

606
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well nature takes care of himself really quick. One

607
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:08,719
thing that when last year we spoke in North Carolina

608
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,719
at the counter Quest and doctor Jeffrey Meldrin was there,

609
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:14,719
and I would love to take him to work and

610
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,559
have him talk to a couple of idiots I work

611
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:20,480
with who make fun of me anyway, because he's great

612
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:24,079
and he uses really big words and he's smart as

613
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:28,000
a professor and kind of hard to argue with that guy.

614
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,159
And but anyway, he had told the number of black

615
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:35,079
bears that were in North Carolina, and it was, you know,

616
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:39,079
number in a few thousands, I don't remember, but the

617
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,320
number of bears that were found that died of natural

618
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,119
causes was a big fan and zero. So if people

619
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:49,920
aren't finding bears that have died of natural causes, and

620
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,079
bigfoot is more rare than a bear. Your chances of

621
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,440
finding one just laying there dead, they're pretty pretty.

622
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: Astronomical, Yeah, some to none.

623
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 4: And then I say, we know squirrels are everywhere. Where's

624
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,880
all the dead squirrels. We should be knee deep in

625
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,360
dead squirrels where they at. Unless you see one on

626
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,519
the side of the road or hanging off of a

627
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,639
power line, you don't see them.

628
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't see them. And that's something that I

629
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:20,960
completely forgot when my husband had an encounter, was something

630
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:24,280
here on our property back in twenty twenty one. After that,

631
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:30,519
we are on the neighborhood. App after that, everyone within

632
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:36,400
our area here we're finding dead squirrels in their yard.

633
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,159
And it wasn't just one person, but it was after

634
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,880
whatever it is that he saw, he said it was

635
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,159
like eight foot tall on its feet. It corrupted him

636
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:51,559
and then took off. We were doing yard work after that.

637
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,079
Everybody was finding dead animals in their yard. And I

638
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:58,400
was like, is this saying just saying, hey, I'm here,

639
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:04,360
have a squirrel, you know? But otherwise, no, you don't see,

640
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,199
you know, dead squirrels anywhere except for the road no, and.

641
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: I've talked to people. A lady near Fayetteville, Ohio. Then

642
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960
actually someone that lives on the outskirts of Hubert Heights

643
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,960
where some stuff has happened. A girl I used to

644
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,199
work with actually called me one night and says, and

645
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,199
she thinks all this as boloney, and she goes, hey,

646
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,719
she goes, I don't know what's going on, but it

647
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,400
might be up your alley. And she goes, I want

648
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,639
you to listen to this. She walked outside, turned to

649
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,239
her phone on speaker, and every dog in her neighborhood

650
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,960
was going berserk. It was about and twelve pm at night.

651
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,679
And she said, they have never done this, They never

652
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,000
sounded like this. And I said, you have a visitor somewhere.

653
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:51,840
Something has come up. The town ends right there, kind

654
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,000
of goes down and goes into a heavily wooded area

655
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:57,719
and there's rivers down there. Came up from the river

656
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,800
bottoms went into the neighborhood and that's why them dogs

657
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,039
are going berserk. And the same thing happened in Fayetteville,

658
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:10,559
and people reported that all the squirrels, raccoons, ground hogs

659
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:16,599
just suddenly like disappeared, like something came in and animal. Wow, yeah,

660
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:17,599
and stuff like that.

661
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: It's it's just mind boggling. See because the same way,

662
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,199
we live right across the street from a creek, and

663
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,840
then it's just mountains. So it's like it acrossed the

664
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,960
creek and came into our little nook here on the

665
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:38,440
side of the mountain, showed itself, and then it was

666
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,519
out of here.

667
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: Where are you at? By the way, we.

668
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Live on Bent Mountain Inn in Vernet, Virginia.

669
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha right?

670
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're about thirty seven minutes from Floyd County

671
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,199
up further up the mountain.

672
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: Okay, so.

673
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,079
Speaker 2: It's baffling. I'm trying to go through here and make

674
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,000
sure I don't miss any que questions because usually I

675
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:04,119
do this and Wayne talks and I'm the one woman

676
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:11,440
showed this evening his computer crashed. Oh yeah, so he

677
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:16,079
said I probably won't be back and I'm so sorry.

678
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:21,480
That's fine, we got it. Well, let's play. You have

679
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:25,280
one more audio clip here, we'll play it's so mm hmmm,

680
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:26,719
whistle rock.

681
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,119
Speaker 4: You replayed that one?

682
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: Did I play that one? I thought I played whistle

683
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:32,119
Rock one.

684
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,519
Speaker 4: This might be the same thing. I don't know.

685
00:43:35,039 --> 00:44:01,639
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we'll play it and see.

686
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:53,519
Speaker 2: Ol rocket falling, see anything?

687
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: No?

688
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: Fine?

689
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 4: Always all.

690
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: That was loud.

691
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the second like version of that where

692
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:05,880
it's kind of cleaned up and then the audio is

693
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000
kind of brought a little bit. You can hear it better. Yeah, yeah,

694
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,199
I think the same thing twice. Sorry about that.

695
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:17,199
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's okay, it's okay, I don't mind. Yeah,

696
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,119
how do how do you how do you feel in

697
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,480
the woods when you're here and all this stuff happened

698
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:27,159
to you like that? Are you scared? Are you scared anymore?

699
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,079
Speaker 4: Or is it just like that when they threw the

700
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:34,519
rocks and we're hitting the vehicles, I was extremely worried

701
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:39,239
because I really expected to get hit and uh, you

702
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,440
know they've come in closed, you know, you know put

703
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,840
they pushed the tree down, and there was a few

704
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,239
times I thought, hey, we're going to have to get them,

705
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,760
you know, out of here, like now. And I've had

706
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,000
moments like that, and it's still you know, it causes

707
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:59,119
some I want to say, anxiety, but you know, you're

708
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,920
even those about half of us carrying.

709
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,199
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more. But that they quit report, we'll

710
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:06,880
be right back.

711
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,639
Speaker 4: I don't know, I carry three fifty seven. It's probably

712
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,639
not gonna take that down. It's mainly just for my

713
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,320
own and shooting something is the last resort that if

714
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,480
something's coming in and it ain't gonna stop, and you

715
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:22,800
have to because you know, I'm gonna use a very

716
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,920
bright flashlight I'm gonna turn on before that, I've got

717
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,000
a it's like a rape whistle alarm that you push

718
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:33,639
a button in one hundred and thirty decibel siren. I'm

719
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:35,840
gonna turn all this stuff on him and to try

720
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,000
to back them off to get out of there before

721
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:43,440
I'm gonna shoot anything. But yeah, there's there's plenty of

722
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,400
times that and it still happens because no matter what

723
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,880
I mean, there's strengthen numbers and you feel, hey, you

724
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,880
know they're they're here. You know, we'll all go down together.

725
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna die, but we're gonna die as a team.

726
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,639
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just gonna lay. Maybe they think they

727
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,320
already got me.

728
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,079
Speaker 2: Uh, but.

729
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,039
Speaker 4: I would never do it by myself, just because you know,

730
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:09,360
a lot of the areas we go into there is

731
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,199
no freaking phone service, right, and you know, always if

732
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:16,199
there's anyone out there listening that it wants to go

733
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,199
do this, take friends, buddy system, let somebody know. I know,

734
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,559
you don't want to let out where you're going to

735
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,000
go research at because they could tell someone and then

736
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:27,639
maybe someone messages with you. But tell someone you can

737
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,519
trust where you're at in case something happened, you know,

738
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,280
and right you're out by yourself and you fall down

739
00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,039
and you twist an ankle, you break your leg, you

740
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,800
know you're going to be coyote food there, you know.

741
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: Right well, and that's what Wayne always says, you know,

742
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,320
never go out alone and always carry because there's more

743
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,039
in the woods than big Foot.

744
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,039
Speaker 4: No, probably the most frightened I've ever been is the

745
00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:58,920
you know, the night of you know, October eleventh, twenty fourteen.

746
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,599
And you know, the people that have seen that episode

747
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:04,840
on on Tearing the Woods, they did a pretty good job.

748
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,119
They did combine some stuff, they added stuff that didn't happen.

749
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:11,280
I never fired a warning shot. Mike didn't have this

750
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,320
big anxiety attack. We had some anxiety and a lot

751
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,360
of adrenaline that night, And yeah, we were frightened because

752
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:23,039
we never had that much happened at the same time.

753
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400
Mainly it was just you're there most of the night,

754
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,880
maybe you heard one thing, you know. And the last

755
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,360
time we stopped that night, his son Jordan got out

756
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,480
and did a howl and he wasn't even done doing

757
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:39,039
his howl, and we got a response on both sides

758
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,719
of this trail road we were on. And at that

759
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,760
point it kind of dawned on me, Hey, wait a minute,

760
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,920
these things are following us and they're getting closer. I

761
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:53,159
felt that we were being kind of funneled, you know,

762
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,159
like a sheep dog funneling cheap, you know. And I

763
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:57,440
didn't know if they were going to let us out

764
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,199
of there. And at the same time, I heard air

765
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:03,920
coming out of something, and I thought Mike had driven

766
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,400
over something. I walk over by his vehicle and his

767
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,559
tires are good. It's not coming from his vehicle. It's

768
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:15,000
coming from the inside the woods. Like a dummy, I

769
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:18,840
walked into the woods. It's a little bit more, a

770
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,320
little bit more, And thank god I didn't take too

771
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,079
many more steps, because what I didn't realize is what

772
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,239
was making that noise was in that pocket of woods.

773
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,559
Because I'm thinking, in my mind, Okay, has somebody thrown

774
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:37,280
out a propane tank, a scoop, a tank, a tire.

775
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:42,039
What is making this sound. That's what I'm thinking. That's

776
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:46,079
not what happened. That's not what caused that. And I'm

777
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:48,880
walking into the woods with no light on. It's pitch black,

778
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,199
and there's something within, maybe I don't know, twenty five

779
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,599
to thirty feet of me that I can't see. It

780
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,199
doesn't know what I'm thinking. I don't know if he

781
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,360
could read on the thread or not. Maybe it can

782
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,800
read my intent. I don't know. But what if I

783
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,840
take another step or two and it decides, okay, that's it.

784
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,599
It's coming after me and I'm gonna I'm gonna take

785
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:13,320
care of business. That thing would have would have took

786
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,039
took me out. I'd never known what happened. But anyway,

787
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:19,079
I thank god I did stop, and I'm listening, and

788
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,519
I closed my eyes and listen to this sound, and

789
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,880
I realized it's not air leaking out of a tank.

790
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,239
There is something a few feet in front of me,

791
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:35,280
and it's breathing in and out. Oh my lord, freaking froze.

792
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,320
I have goosebumps on my arms. And this thing went

793
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,159
from a just taking just doing taking a breathing. It

794
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,199
would take the breath in and then it kind of

795
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,159
do that ape like that huff kind of thing, and

796
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,880
I'm like, I've got to get out of here, but

797
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,320
I don't want to move. I'm afraid to freaking move.

798
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:57,920
Sure how I turned around, run and if I want

799
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:03,199
to U so, I literally I start backing up very carefully,

800
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,440
and I keep backing up, and I did draw my gun.

801
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,760
I had it down at my side, I had it

802
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,519
against my leg. I don't know if this thing's coming

803
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:15,360
or not. And I'm backing up one step at a time,

804
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,519
and it's doing the same thing, the deep breath, the hut,

805
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,440
and then it it stops with that. I guess the

806
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,159
moment before I started backing up, it went from that

807
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,559
to a very low, very guttural I know, if you

808
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,079
want to call it a roar, what it was different

809
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,760
only heard it the one time. I do not ever

810
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,159
want to hear that sound again, because it the roar.

811
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,760
It when it admitted it, it actually reverberated off my

812
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,519
chest like I was at a heavy metal concert, Oh

813
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,320
my gosh. And I had not only heard it, I

814
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,199
felt it. The people that's behind me, wherever they're at

815
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:53,000
at that moment, they heard it. They didn't feel it.

816
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,519
I felt it. And to me, this was big Daddy,

817
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,280
because there was more than one that night that followed us,

818
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,360
and it was pretty much saying get the f out

819
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,039
of here now or else. So at that moment I started,

820
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:08,599
I'm backing up. When I felt my foot kind of

821
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:11,920
hit this gravelly area, I knew I'm out. I'm pretty

822
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,840
much on the main trail. At that point, I turned

823
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,480
and I probably sounded my voice is probably as high

824
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,599
as Michael Jackson, and I yelled, We're getting that f

825
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:27,079
out of here, and we run. We run the car

826
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,840
like Keystone cops. You younger kids are gonna have to

827
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,960
google that. And we're getting in the vehicle and Mike

828
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:35,760
Tug takes off. He almost flipped the vehicle. We almost

829
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,039
went off the side of this this It wasn't a mountain,

830
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,559
but we were elevated. He almost went off the edge,

831
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:45,400
you know, and and it would probably kill all of us.

832
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,320
But we got out of there. We got down. The

833
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,840
word flattens out probably corner of a mile, and we stopped,

834
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,199
Hey is Jordan, Okay, everybody's in the car. We're all

835
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,280
in here, okay, and we're just trying to calm down,

836
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:01,880
you know, the proof breathing heavy, and we stopped, and

837
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,920
all of a sudden, you know, he's got the engine running,

838
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,800
bright lights are on. This deer walks out in front

839
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,000
of us and just stops. It never looks toward the

840
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:12,679
car one time. It's looking at the direction we just

841
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,760
came from. And I looked at Mike and said, does

842
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,639
this thing want to ride? Or what the hell?

843
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 11: You know?

844
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:22,559
Speaker 4: And you can take me with you. And it snorted

845
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,119
and piled the ground and it literally turns around and

846
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,000
runs the other way and we got out of there.

847
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,639
That's how that night ended. And I will never ever

848
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,079
forget that. I will never forget whatever was not even

849
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,079
twenty feet from me breathing like that, and then that

850
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:43,119
that noise sounded. Admitted I felt that I will never

851
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,599
freaking forget that. And like I said, I don't ever

852
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:47,840
want to hear that one again, because that one that's

853
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,599
not a good one.

854
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:56,199
Speaker 2: That's yeah, no, then that is the you're you're trespassing, sir,

855
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,000
and you're gonna die, And you have two point five

856
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:00,760
seconds make a decision.

857
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,039
Speaker 4: What if I take one more step? What if I

858
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:07,159
slip and lean forward? I mean, you know, dog food, dude,

859
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,639
I don't want to know how close I came to,

860
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,679
you know, being wiped out because I was I was

861
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,880
dancing on edge there.

862
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: That's scary. That's so scary. Well, we're right here at

863
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,960
the hour. Let's get into some questions. You have quite

864
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,880
a few. If I missed a question, please type it

865
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,599
again and I will run back through and grab it

866
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:34,519
for you from mister t Roy here. Do you ever

867
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:38,519
take notes of tree species, diameter, arch, height, et cetera.

868
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: We're not that technical. I will take we will take

869
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:47,639
pictures of trees and stuff. I did post one earlier

870
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:50,840
in the year where we're an event happened where there

871
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,000
was a crossing at daytime, crossing in front of a

872
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:56,880
lady driving and the thing was mad because she kind

873
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,599
of interrupted a deer hunt and the deer got away.

874
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,440
They actually stamped a tree, a big I mean a

875
00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:06,880
good sized tree at a ninety degree angle. I posted

876
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,159
that picture, and you know a lot of people laughed

877
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:12,679
and said, you know, the skeptics, all that was lightning.

878
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,039
Lightning does not do that to a tree like that.

879
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,480
And because there was no explosion, there was no impact point.

880
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,280
You know, it was like stamped at a ninety degree angle.

881
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:25,440
And crazy enough, if you go up this way into

882
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:29,239
this property. There was another tree not one hundred yards

883
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,719
snapped the same way. And then since then, this has

884
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,760
just happened this year, within the last two months. Somebody

885
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:41,079
went and not only took that tree down and cut

886
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:43,559
it up, the one right by the road. And this

887
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,559
thing was stamped. It was not into it wasn't into

888
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:50,719
the road, hanging into the road. It wasn't into any

889
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,119
power lines or anything, the lines nothing. Someone cut that

890
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,840
tree down, just those two trees, none of these other ones.

891
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,599
And there's candidate there. They might want to cut that

892
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:04,199
one down because storm comes in. That's probably going to

893
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,039
cause problems. No, the two trees that were stamped at

894
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:09,719
the nine and gre Angele had been removed, which is

895
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,159
kind of odd, right.

896
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, why do you think

897
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,360
they would do that?

898
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:17,519
Speaker 4: Some kind of marker mean something.

899
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:22,079
Speaker 2: It does mean something, I would agree. Toy asked again,

900
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,440
does the size of the rock matter as far as

901
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:29,880
their intentions. I've heard of youngsters throwing pebbles and pot cones.

902
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:33,559
Speaker 4: Yes, they've thrown little rocks before. We were at a

903
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:37,840
campfire one time on Mark on Mark Mark property and

904
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,599
we weren't even big footing that night. We were just

905
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:43,159
drinking beer two in the morning, sharing stories, and they

906
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,960
threw little stones at us, just like it was the

907
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,719
younger one's playing. You know, have a cable where they

908
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,679
don't have a taco bell open at three am, So

909
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,119
we were like their entertainment, I guess. But I took

910
00:55:56,199 --> 00:55:59,199
that as a playful gesture because we were hit those

911
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,599
and they didn't hurt Now the rocks they hit the

912
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,119
vehicle with that, we scared their young one. They did

913
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,840
damage to the vehicles, and they would have clocked us

914
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,719
if they would hit us. And I'm glad, but you know,

915
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,960
I think the matter they are, they're probably going to

916
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,239
pick up the bigger, bigger the object, And.

917
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,679
Speaker 2: How do you explain that to your insurance company? So

918
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,519
what happened was I was out big putting and I've

919
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:27,239
pissed it off.

920
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: Oh that jeeps isn't with us anymore. She went to

921
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:34,320
the graveyard in the sky. It had over three hundred

922
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,960
and three and three thousand miles on it. I really

923
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:38,480
wasn't worried about it getting beat up.

924
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:41,039
Speaker 2: That's what it was for got too got to you.

925
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Troy said, could that have been red wolves with the

926
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:48,480
hows and stuff? No?

927
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,079
Speaker 4: No, David Ellis has has analyzed those audio clips. There

928
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:58,679
are iOS and stuff from there, but like the main culprit,

929
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,199
if you want to call it that the audio in question,

930
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:03,599
that is something else.

931
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,639
Speaker 2: Got you miss, Chris Blaylock. Do you research what animals

932
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:13,000
are in the area in the sounds that they make?

933
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: Yes, we have. And furthermore, David's program has every sound

934
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,840
and the Hurts band and not just the identification of it,

935
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:29,320
but he's got every living creature in North America in

936
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,599
his database. So if there's if we record and we've

937
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:34,719
had that where we had one a few years ago

938
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,880
that I thought was promising it turned out to be

939
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,400
an owl. But he this program identifies the sounds and

940
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:43,239
it will say this is an owl, this is a fox,

941
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this is a deer, this is you know, this is

942
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some crazy lady on frag or on meth methany. It

943
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was Meane, it was her name. He had his program

944
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,960
didn deifies that and then it shows a hurt span

945
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where the audio goes and there's a certain range that

946
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where they what he calls suspicious audio that doesn't match

947
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anything that's that's recorded across the United States. Seems to

948
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:17,480
be from a three point thirty to like almost nine

949
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hundred megahertz. It's in that range.

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Speaker 2: All right, miss Erica. What's the best audio you have

951
00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:27,239
ever gotten?

952
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 4: Probably the bridge one that that you know, peg tier

953
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,519
than the bad boon. That's that's that's evidence. Whether you know,

954
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:42,199
there're no matter skeptic. You know, most of these skeptics,

955
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,920
unless you drag a body out there, just don't want

956
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,000
to hear about it. But that is evidence because that's

957
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:52,480
a professional who analyzed it and said it's nothing nothing,

958
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,960
nothing else natural. It's nothing unnatural that was created, and

959
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:01,840
we surely held on have that kind of technology anyway

960
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:07,280
or right or the to do anything like that. No,

961
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:10,199
I'm you know, I'm like when I type, I'm not

962
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,679
in peck typer. I can't sit there and do this number.

963
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:18,519
But all right, those have been identified by the Hurts by.

964
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Speaker 2: All right, Chris Blaylock. Are all these clips from the

965
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:25,719
same area.

966
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,239
Speaker 4: They are from? Most of those are from Adams County,

967
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,679
not the same exact spot, but within probably a twenty

968
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:36,920
mile radius. One of those I believe was over by

969
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:37,480
East Fork.

970
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,199
Speaker 2: Okay, And Troy wants to know who is with you

971
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,719
in the audio that's talking with you.

972
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: One of the people was Mike Fauldner and he retired.

973
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:55,760
He's doing stuff with his wife. This year. Had a big,

974
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,039
big two honey do list kind of thing going on.

975
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:03,559
Tody Paly was there. Bev and mc McCoy were there.

976
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:05,679
They're part of the group. My son Noah was there,

977
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:09,599
and Donna was in there a couple of times, and

978
01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:13,679
then I believe Angie Havens was there also one of

979
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:15,719
those awesome.

980
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,119
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to thank you for coming on

981
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:22,159
and spending this time. I'm sorry Wayne had to check out.

982
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:26,480
He said he was sorry when this computer cracked out

983
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,760
on him. So, but thank you for rescheduling with us,

984
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,639
and you're welcome back anytime.

985
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,039
Speaker 4: Oh cool, I'll come back. Yeah, I appreciate it.

986
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Well you have a good rest of

987
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,440
your evening then.

988
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,159
Speaker 4: Sir, okay, this coming Saturday moment, Oh I forgot.

989
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I was going to give you the option or

990
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,599
the availability to speak about everything you're doing.

991
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to be with your buddy there that spirit

992
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:58,320
Spirits of the Forest that's in September, and Russell A.

993
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,199
Court is going to be there. We actually took for

994
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,960
us to our spot in Adams County three three years

995
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,599
ago into Live.

996
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh cool.

997
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 4: We recorded that, but this is coming Saturday. I'll be

998
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:13,880
at the at the Bigfoot Festival in Middlefield, Ohio.

999
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,159
Speaker 2: Okay.

1000
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:18,159
Speaker 4: Then we have a Facebook page, please like it. It's

1001
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:21,000
Ohio Night Stalkers. In any place that I'm going to be,

1002
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,960
I'm the only one doing the presentations this year. But

1003
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:30,159
their presentation is a PowerPoint presentation, and I have pictures

1004
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:33,360
of the actual research area. I tell the story of

1005
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,880
what happened in those areas, and then the audio that

1006
01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:38,760
was recorded on those nights, and we go through all

1007
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,519
that with the original audio clips and after David Ellis

1008
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,519
cleaned it up and stuff, and we have those also.

1009
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:49,880
But any any place I'm going to be with those presentations.

1010
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:52,559
I just spoke in Clyde, Oregon, back on June twenty first.

1011
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:55,400
That was a great trip. But they can find out

1012
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,239
by going to that Facebook page where we will be at.

1013
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:01,719
Speaker 2: Well, that is cold, that is really cool, and and

1014
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,679
you're speaking with Wayne the end of this this year

1015
01:02:05,159 --> 01:02:09,000
at the Spirit of the Forest with Susan, So that'll

1016
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:10,719
be it'll be a good time.

1017
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:16,119
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's a little closer than Oregon for sure. Yes,

1018
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:17,760
I drove out there.

1019
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh my how long was that draw?

1020
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 4: Three days?

1021
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,159
Speaker 2: Oh, that's dedication.

1022
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:28,159
Speaker 4: I drive for ups eight to ten hours is like

1023
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,639
an everyday thing, pushing up to fourteen or so. It's

1024
01:02:32,719 --> 01:02:35,840
not a not a big deal really, But I wanted

1025
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,039
to see the United States and I a car last year.

1026
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:40,559
I'm like this while you you know, that's why you

1027
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:43,159
bought it. Drive the darn thing. And I wanted. I

1028
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,400
wanted to see things.

1029
01:02:44,199 --> 01:02:47,519
Speaker 2: That I did. Did you do any exploring an Oregon No?

1030
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:52,239
Speaker 4: Not related to sight seeing? Went to Crater Lake, but

1031
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,519
oh my goodness, anything you can just stop on the

1032
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:56,400
road there and do stuff because the road is pretty

1033
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,559
much to a forest pine. I love pine trees and

1034
01:02:59,639 --> 01:03:03,760
it's just you know, and I love being there because

1035
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:06,519
I hate the rail on Ohio because I've lived here

1036
01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:08,280
in my whole life and there's part of what I like.

1037
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,639
But out there you've got trees and you've got water,

1038
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,320
and the water is either clear or it's blue. And

1039
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,519
I come back home and the water looks like toilet water. Oh,

1040
01:03:18,679 --> 01:03:21,000
I'm Michael, Ohio. You're killing me, you know. And then

1041
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,880
it wants to be ninety five degrees with all this humidity,

1042
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,039
and I'm like, hey, where's our ocean at it, it's

1043
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:28,119
going to be like, where's our ocean at you know,

1044
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:31,599
we don't have one, and I'm you know, I'm probably

1045
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:32,760
out of here when I retire.

1046
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well the heat has been awful everywhere. You walk

1047
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,000
out your front door and you're wet. Yep, I mean

1048
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:47,480
it's ridiculous, but do come back again please.

1049
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:49,239
Speaker 4: Well, thank you thanks for having me appreciate it.

1050
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: Yes, and everybody is great. Show. Thanks Mike, and bite

1051
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,280
Mike back. So everybody wants you back, so whenever, So

1052
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,119
whenever you get a chance, you just hit me up

1053
01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:04,280
and I'll get you scheduled. Okay, cool sounds good, all right,

1054
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,440
thank you, Thank you everybody.

1055
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thank you so much for checking out this

1056
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,119
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01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:20,000
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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,159
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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,760
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Speaker 11: Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at

1075
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:39,119
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering breeze. Secrets

1076
01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:49,480
kept by ancioot trees, dog Man house bring echoes in

1077
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:58,199
the silent too tracks We fine, but answers none. A

1078
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:12,199
hunt for truth, that's just the gun. We're searching past

1079
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:20,320
the fire light. Four creatures hidden our sight in the

1080
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:27,320
forest heart where shadows lay seeking see chrits in the twilight.

1081
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:40,480
Through the fall a shape did gly skin walker? I

1082
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:47,280
show why Legends of oh We chase to night in

1083
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:54,880
the dark, our lanterns bright by the creek, quil water

1084
01:06:55,119 --> 01:07:02,960
spill whispers ry, the winds, oak chill, full of steep

1085
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:10,039
and tails on top. In this land the myths of old.

1086
01:07:20,239 --> 01:07:26,880
We're searching past the fire light, full creatures hidden out

1087
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:34,519
of sight, in the forest heart, where shadows lay, seeking

1088
01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:37,280
seacrets in the twilight break