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Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in the real

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Oh see Sean o'colly. You can hear him every single

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day on ESPN seven hundred and their midday show show

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and how that car are you?

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Speaker 2: Buddy? Thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: What a day?

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Speaker 2: Huh crazy?

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Speaker 3: I mean, we kind of felt like this was happening,

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but there is some waffling. I felt like I felt

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like there was a little bit of a power struggle

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here with you know, maybe maybe Kyle didn't want to

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step down, didn't want to retire. All the news coming

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out of this, obviously he is stepping down, he's not

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officially retiring.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like there.

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Speaker 3: Was a bit of upheaval, maybe a little bit of

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power play going on over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: With the end of the season coming to an end.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know that there was a power play

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so much as there was indecision happening, because you know,

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this is a man who's a football lifer, who is

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trying to convince himself that maybe he doesn't need to

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be a football lifer at the University of Utah. I'm

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mildly surprised to see what Stuart Mandel is reporting that

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he might seek other coaching opportunities. But I mean, coach

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Witt has been laying this groundwork for now for really

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two and a half three years. He would have stepped

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away last season if it hadn't been such a disastrous result.

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You know, five wins. He's too competitive to go out

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on that note. And obviously a ten win season not

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quite right off into the sunset season that he probably

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hoped for, which I'm sure incentivized him in some way to, hey,

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maybe should I do it again? But this is something

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that he's been hinting at now for the better part

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of three years, and he's stepping down. If there's an

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NFL job out there, he would obviously take it. If

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there's a massive like a University of Michigan interest in

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somebody like Kyle Whittingham, which seems like, you know, kind

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of far fetched at this point. I'm sure he'll take

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something like that beyond any of those huge opportunities. I

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can't imagine him coaching on a sideline somewhere else, at

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least not next year.

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Speaker 3: So what's as far as head coaching jobs right now?

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Not very many of them available. We're getting towards the

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end of the cycle, but there are a few still available.

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Do you think he receives calls or do you think

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people are viewing college in the twilight of his career

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and still doesn't have he doesn't have any energy left.

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I mean, this is a good football team. I mean

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you're on the cusp of greatness. You lost to your

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rival by three on the road. You had Texas Tech

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at home, right and you fought to the nail through

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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter they pulled away from you. Texas Tech very

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well could be a national champion.

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Speaker 3: With an influx of cash, maybe some nil, he can

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go out and purchase a pretty good staff and a

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pretty gosh dang good roster.

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Speaker 4: I think if you're if you're an athletic director or

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you're a university president, if you're in athletic department, and

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you're seeing what Chris com Ronning and Stuart Mandela reporting,

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and you're saying, wait, Kyle Whittingham's leaving Utah, but he's

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not necessarily retiring. Am I in a position right now

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where I want someone for two to three seasons where

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I need somebody that kind of writes this ship, gets

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us back on a positive path, and then eventually he

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steps down. And maybe it's only one season, but a

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short If you're looking for a short term fix, which

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to be frank, but if you're somebody out there in

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a leadership position who's looking for a relatively short term fix,

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there would be no better call to make than Kyle Whittingham.

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I don't know who's in that position. I mean, my

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imagination can run wild, and I could say, if I'm

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Michigan and we just got rocked by some crazy scandal,

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who do I want? I want someone who's the opposite

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of scandal.

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Speaker 5: I want someone.

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Speaker 4: Who's as boring and steady and reliable as I can

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possibly find. And that's a sixty six year old Kyle

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Whittingham who's been married forever. And you know, wants to

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be wants to be thought of as one of the

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best coaches in the country. I could provide him those

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resources that you just hinto that and maybe he can

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pass the torch to somebody else. Again, I think that's

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incredibly far fetched. But if if he's leaving the glimmer

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and the possibility this little window open that he might coach,

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Speaker 3: That, any chance BYU, if their funds they want to

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go bring in another analyst, a senior analyst. They're at

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Brigham Young University.

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Speaker 4: I think that would be one job that he would

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absolutely not take.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want that.

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Speaker 3: He let's say, as far away from probo as possible.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean also, he's not the type that wants

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to stir up somebody else's punch bowl. You know, like

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Kyle and Klane are friends. Kyle has repeatedly acknowledged with

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a great job Kilinie's doing down there. He's got relationships

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with a bunch of the guys on that staff, And

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as soon as you throw somebody like that in, it

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just upsets the power balance and creates rumors and like

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all these insane situations and drama that Kyle Whittingham is

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allergic to.

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Speaker 5: So no shot of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there are only head coaching opportunities out there

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in a Michigan, Missouri state, in Washington state. But I

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imagine like there's if you have a senior analyst role

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open and a and a checkbook that's fairly open as well,

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you could probably pay him now. But I thought he

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had a sweetheart deal as an associate ad making him

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million dollars a year if he if he stays at

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the University of you thought.

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Speaker 5: He can.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a two or three year deal where

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he can be like a special advisor to the athletic department,

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that little golden parachute type job.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that that's the type of thing that

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interests Whittingham to a great deal, you know what I mean,

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Because what is he dealing with in that he's shaking

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hands and kissing babies and now he's talking to private

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equity people potentially. I mean, it's just like this man

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is either going to be coaching football or he's going

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to be skiing, golfing and hanging out with his grandkids.

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I imagine they'll pull him out of the bullpen for

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big time Crimson Club events whenever he gets bored. But

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that advisory role, to me was always written as something

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that's like not a particularly like day to day type gig,

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So I don't know what it's actually going to be.

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that is going to be wanting to sit at a desk,

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you know, and putting a tie on every day, So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the real o c Shot o'condle here on ESPN

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the Fan. How would you describe the last few years

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under Kyle And do you think it was the right

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time for him to step down or do you think

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there were still some Jews left?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there is juice left. But I think

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that the right thing to do in any sports capacity

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is to be done with the sport before the sport

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is done with you. And I think that Kyle Whittingham

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is acknowledging that, you know, he has been grudgingly accepted

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the changes and adapted to the changes in college football.

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He has begrudgingly participated in the recruit your own players

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every three months and make sure you pay these kids

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sometimes way more than their worth with nil stuff, and

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he's adapted as much as an old dog can learn

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those new tricks. I think he deserves a lot of

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respect for the way that he has adapted when some

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of his peers, at least age wise and experience wise,

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were less able or not able to do. But again,

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this is a guy that is just you know, he's

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in the twilight years of a professional career, much less

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a football coaching career, and for him to walk away

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at this time where he finished on a ten win season, yes.

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Speaker 5: Just short of those stated goals that he talked about.

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Speaker 4: With you know, college football playoff invitation Big twelve championship.

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one coach to win conference championships in three different conferences.

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If he had been able to pull that off, all

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that would have been really really great to see him,

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to see him do. But it feels like the right

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time for him to step away because you know, Morgan

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is ready to take over. And Morgan is a guy

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that he helped mold and I mean he coached as

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a player, as you're well aware, and has helped mold

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who Morgan is as a coach. And I think that

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Kyle Whittingham he always said he wants to be not

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just the coach but also the steward of this program.

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He wants to leave it in good hands. He wants

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to know when the right time to walk away is.

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another season or two, and maybe he would take an

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opportunity in order to get out from under the shadow

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or get out from under that Kylewoodyham umbrella. And I

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think that all plays into it, and Coach Wit realizes

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that this is the time, so, you know, go out

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on a high note if he can. And ten and

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two is a high note. It's not quite as high

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a note as some of us hope for this year,

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but it's the hell of the season.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, what other dominoes could fall

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between the two schools with this move?

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Speaker 2: Do you think any other dominoes could fall?

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Speaker 3: I does j Hill get a call from Morgan Scaley

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say hey, you want to be assistant head coach and

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the DC as I move up to the head coaching world.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a possibility.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a strong possibility. I think it's a

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conversation that you know, should at least be entertained on

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both sides. I don't know that Jay would be willing

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to do that. I don't know that Morgan would be

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willing to go back to Jay instead of you know,

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promoting a Colton Swan or Sharif Shaw or Lewis Powell

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or the guys that have you know, stayed at Utah

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and been a huge part of his own success, of

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Morgan's own success.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, why wouldn't he go to J Hill.

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Speaker 4: J is one of the best assistant coaches in the

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country period. So there's also, you know, the possibility of

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Gary Anderson. Gary Anderson was the defensive coordinator, a position coach.

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was there, and then he was the defensive coordinator who

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took over right after Morgan left, and so he coached

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again under Gary when he was just a grad assistant

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in climbing the ladder.

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Speaker 5: So they've got a great relationship.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan is calling a couple

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of different guys that are on that YU staff and saying, hey,

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is there any interest in you coming back? Because I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's competitive comparative enmity here the private equity deal.

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Speaker 4: The positive is that you presumably have an influx of

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funds that help you to stay competitive with schools in

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you know you can offer the same kind of things

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that Oregon and USC and Texas Tech and b YU

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are offering to recruits and to assistant coaches and to

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families that want to be part of your department or whatever.

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the pretty obvious negative is that now you've you've partnered

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with an industry that is notoriously soulless and sucks the

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life out of a lot of the things that they

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end up partnering with because all they care about is

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the almighty dollar. Now, that's far from ideal from a

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sports fan perspective, but it's the reality of where college

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sports have headed, and it does provide some exciting, you know,

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new possibilities in the realm of you know, setting president

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for the rest of college football and for the rest

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of college athletics where maybe maybe it is time to

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invite return on investment type partners into your athletic department.

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I don't know how it's going to work out. I've

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possibly imagine, and I can see it going both ways.

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Speaker 3: Sean best way to support you what you do, how

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Speaker 2: Wait, are you going to be flying to France too?

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Speaker 5: I'm in France right now.

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Speaker 2: Are you solo? Do you have the fam out there?

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Speaker 5: All right, man, thanks for having me, Ben, Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: All right, which one are we gonna start with? First?

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Ronald three Man Weaver.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with a lot of people might not know

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this about always stay tuned in. Kevin Young and Jimmer

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were actually on the Coaches Show together, So let's start

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with a little history. Because the last time Bill you

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had a basketball player like Jimmer for dead, I mean

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like Agent Demons was Jimmer for Dead. So let's start

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with Jim Er joining Kevin Young on the Coaching Show.

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Speaker 7: So the only game I'd ever been to at the

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Marriott Center prior to my first game coaching there was

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when this guy and these guys play Wake Forest.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that was that was a loss, but an

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amazing game.

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Speaker 7: Amazing game, so much talent in that game. So you know,

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I lived in the community and would you know hear

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of you know, what he was doing over here and

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so forth.

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Speaker 8: It was a good time to be in provo flashing forward.

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You were with the Delaware eighty seven ers, you were

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playing with the Westchester Knicks, and there was a season

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where you faced off against this guy six times, six times.

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Speaker 2: I did check it out.

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Speaker 8: He averaged twenty four games in those six games. Was

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like the coach against him.

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Speaker 2: It was not easy.

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Speaker 7: It was not I mean, obviously I knew a lot

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about him and his game, and I think I after

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one of the games, I kind of made the LBS connection,

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which was cool. But yeah, man, super hard got to

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game plan four and uh, it was just kind of

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a full circle deal. Honestly, the fact that you know

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we were had been here at the same time and

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now competing against each other all the way out there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when do you first recall crossing paths with him

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the Delaware the Delaware connection was the first time.

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against each other. And he told me that afterwards, like

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that's that's incredible to know. I didn't realize that in first.

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the smallest room of all time in any arena that

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thin there was like three feet and we were all

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setting there and we played a ton but that was

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a really fun connection. Then obviously after that followed his

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career and gone to do great things. And once once

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he came here, I.

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Speaker 3: Was Jimmer Fernette, nothing but Thatt alongside k Y Kevin Young,

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your head coach for.

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Speaker 2: The BAYU Cougar basketball team.

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Speaker 3: So that would have been what twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

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some but I think that's right around the timeline.

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Speaker 3: I actually went out to UH when b YU was

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Speaker 2: I went out and.

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Speaker 3: Covered the game at MSG. Was great, it was fantastic,

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was marvelous. It was wonderful at court side covering the

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team and a great trip obviously, And then I went

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over to a west Chester Knicks game where Jimmer Furnett

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dropped I think twenty or so points. It was beautiful,

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It was fantastic, It was marvelous. So love seeing the connections,

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love seeing you know how intertwined these former these former

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Cougars get with now current Cougars. Remember k Why was

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not a cougar? Okay, he was not, he was never

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a cougar. He was He's been adopted, he's been grafted

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into the branch of Brigham. Okay, this beautiful tree and

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we love it. It's fantastic, it's marvelous. Okay, why doing

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great things at b y U and uh shout out

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to it's it's it's it's an attitude of gratitude type

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of December. We're gonna we're gonna try our best during

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the month of December or January to get Jack Goldkie

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Speaker 2: What do you say, Ronald, Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Aren't we grateful for k Why aren't we grateful for

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the greatness he's brought to the hardwood? Aren't we grateful

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for ag to Bonsa coming to Brigham? Are we grateful

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that Jack Golkie dropped so many great shots versus the

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Kentucky Wildcats.

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Speaker 6: He made it possible Jack Jack, Jack Jack.

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Speaker 2: Things aren't going too well.

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Speaker 6: Just to give you guys insight, I've been guys is

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pressed me to make sure I get this done and

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I will deliver for you. Guys like Jimmer for Dead

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and the Mailman Carl Malone for those in Utah that

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are Jazz fans the NBA. Anyway, The point is Ben

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has texted me the message about Jack guys at least

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once every six months. Then, Hey, you gotta be grateful.

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Speaker 3: Gotta be grateful for Jack. Be grateful for Jack. All right,

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what's the next?

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us, Ronnie?

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Speaker 6: This one is pretty interesting. I like this one. So

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this is Jimmer for now his experience with you know,

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three verses three on the USA basketball Now, Ben, we

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know he was playing, had injury, it was unfortunate, but

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now he's a part of the administrative role. We know

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the squad as well. So Jimmer on the Kevin Young

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Coaches Show with Gregor bel speak thinking about his experience

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I really did I mean it happened right after

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COVID I was with I was in China, still played

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with the Sharks, but during that time I was during COVID,

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so I didn't get to come back home where my

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family didn't come over. It was like seven months I

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didn't see anybody. Then we're in a hotel room. It

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was really difficult, and at that point I was like,

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all right, I'm kind of done with five or five

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basketball at this point, I'm just burnt out. And then

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about I took some time off, and maybe like five

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six months later, Franfriscilla came and was like, hey, we

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have three or three basketball for USA. Would you be

477
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,839
interested in helping us, you know, go to the Olympics

478
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and possibly play for the Olympic team. And I was like,

479
00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:45,160
that's that's an amazing opportunity. Let me go ask my

480
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,599
wife and see if that's okay because there's a lot

481
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of travel involved. And then she was like, hey, well

482
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,960
you know where's the twenty twenty four Olympics and they're like,

483
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,759
well it's in Paris. She's like, all right, you're going.

484
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,000
It's going to be an expensive trip for you. So

485
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I was like, let's do it. Once she was all in,

486
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,880
I was all in, and I actually had some some

487
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,640
of the most fun I ever had playing basketball the

488
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,200
last couple of years because it was just for fun

489
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,559
and it was just like playing outside with your friends

490
00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:11,000
and just competing and having a great time.

491
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Speaker 5: So it's been good.

492
00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:14,319
Speaker 8: And then the call comes to pick the next generation

493
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:14,720
of players.

494
00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:15,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty cool.

495
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,079
Speaker 9: Absolutely, absolutely an honor to be a part of USA

496
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,240
basketball in any capacity. So to be able to do that,

497
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,119
you know, on AJ has been a part of USA

498
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,039
Basketball for a long time. It's an incredible run with them,

499
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,480
so it's just to be a part of it any

500
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:28,480
capacity is amazing.

501
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Speaker 3: There you go, that's Jimmer for debt, nothing but debt,

502
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:34,880
Ronald the three man weave or your thoughts, your comment chair,

503
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,599
what do you make of that cougar byte?

504
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's this is an important note Ben,

505
00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:42,200
having someone that has connections and ties as well as

506
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,200
Kevin Young. But this changes I think the landscape for

507
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,119
the future of BOU basketball having Jimmer on three on three,

508
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,759
like we had Trevonilla on the show. You know, we've

509
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:52,640
interviewed Trevin Brett, interviewed him, I did you and he

510
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,799
talked about this connection of Jimmer was reached out of like, hey,

511
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:58,680
I'm trying to play basketball, but maybe not competitive five

512
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,319
on five and Bo oversees that much and three on

513
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,119
three did that, Like Trevor was in the same position

514
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,240
being well, does he leave his family? Does he leave

515
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:07,839
his wife? All of that And this opportunity came because

516
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,759
Jimmer is on the administrative team, you know, on the staff,

517
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,599
So that goes so the connections that you have help

518
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,119
and it opens up even you know, the international pool,

519
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,920
I think even better for by you like how many

520
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,440
former Cougar has been along with Jimmer had been in practice,

521
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:24,160
you know, and maybe not Jimmer specifically, but Brandon Davies

522
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,880
was there, Zach Sellias. So there's a lot of connections

523
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,079
now of guys when they're in the offseason or back

524
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,680
that Kevin Young is now mixing that they're adding into

525
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,880
this and opportunity. So the connection now with USAA basketball,

526
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
like Jim already said, with AJ and Trevin, I think

527
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,319
you're gonna see more BYU basketball players have opportunities to

528
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,039
play overseas or play in the USA Basketball, you know,

529
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,160
represent the United States because of Jim er So I

530
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,839
think that's great and that he is now in that

531
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,079
administrative role. Never thought he would be there. Ben thought

532
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:55,039
he would just retire from basketball, maybe coach one day

533
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,720
down the road. But no, here he is making important

534
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,960
decisions for you know, our country's basket ball team, specifically

535
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,720
the three on three team.

536
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: They go any other cougar bytes that we wanted to

537
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,119
get into before we go to break.

538
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,079
Speaker 6: There is one more. There's a funny one that I

539
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,160
think we all should listen to. So Rob Wright and

540
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,359
and AJ had joined Sports Nation talking about who's the

541
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,559
smartest on the team and street smart? Who's the most

542
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,640
you know, I guess the best on the team that

543
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,039
you would take with you on the streets. Let's listen

544
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,640
into this. I think you guys are gonna find this

545
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,559
one pretty funny.

546
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 5: I on the team school.

547
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: Probably me, Rob, If I needed if I needed help

548
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:42,359
for a question, I'll probably go to X.

549
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 9: Okay, how about street smarts?

550
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:47,039
Speaker 2: Because you asked, you know.

551
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:50,519
Speaker 5: Street smart?

552
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,319
Speaker 6: Are you laughing at you think of someone who's not.

553
00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:58,839
Speaker 9: If I if I if I was going on in

554
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,480
the streets late night and I gonna have security with me,

555
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:06,839
who's the smartest.

556
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,839
Speaker 6: Guy on the team?

557
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,799
Speaker 2: All right? So what do you make of that Ronald

558
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:12,680
of three man Weaver.

559
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:16,039
Speaker 6: I was just laughing the whole time, like X and

560
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,000
I'm just like, okay, look I would say this and

561
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,079
hopefully this doesn't might be in the butt. It's like, okay,

562
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,559
the biracial brother helped me with the books, and then

563
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,440
the dark skiped brother me on the streets, and like,

564
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,759
I just that's how I was looking at it, just

565
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,599
laughing us and what and then laughing just made it worse.

566
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,599
I was just I was just rubbing my head. I'm like,

567
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,720
this is so typical with the brothers, like hey, the

568
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,279
biracial brother, Hey you book smart man, and then the

569
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,839
all all the color brother you got me in the

570
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:47,240
street bros. Just I was laughing because it's just I

571
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,400
can't even deny. I don't. I don't, I haven't. I've

572
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,920
met the team in passing a little bit and talked

573
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,319
to him here and there. I mean, look, I think

574
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,559
Move is the wrong person to take, maybe just because

575
00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,720
I'm normalus. So I take Kba. He's sixth eight, you know, Bulky,

576
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,160
you know, I know he's a super nice guy, super humble,

577
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,279
but his just presence, I would take Ky, but if anything,

578
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,279
but apparently you know, Kenar Moo is like that Take

579
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,400
Moo in the street, which he'll he'll defend in. If

580
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,599
you need to get into books, X marks the spot.

581
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,640
Apparently xavieron Stan will help you do the books. I

582
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,599
just thought that was funny.

583
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where does this year rank among the best seasons in

642
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,759
BA football history? And how does a bowl game right

643
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,680
the Georgia Tech Game? And how does the the how

644
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:58,960
Texas Tech finished the season UH play and or factor

645
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into your ranking. So you have fifteen double digit win

646
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seasons ranked in a peopole in the eight people at

647
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the end of the year. So number one nineteen eighty four,

648
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,759
thirteen to zero AP pole, that's the number one. Nineteen

649
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,400
ninety six, you ended up number five overall, fourteen and

650
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,720
one with a Cotton Bowl victory. Okay, you got a

651
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Holiday Bowl win in eighty four. Nineteen eighty three you

652
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win eleven and one. You got a Holiday Bowl victory,

653
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and you ended up seventh in the country. Nineteen eighty

654
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,880
you were twelve and one Holiday Bowl win and your

655
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,359
final ranking was top twelve. Two thousand and nine, you

656
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,279
were eleven and two Las Vegas Bowl victory. You actually

657
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,119
beat the rank A ranked Oregon State team. You beat

658
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,440
your quiz Rodgers and Corey Rodgers and that was a

659
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,119
good win. AP top twelve, finish twelfth overall nineteen eighty one,

660
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eleven and two with a Holiday Bowl win. AP final

661
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,480
poll ranking of thirteen nineteen seventy nine, eleven and one

662
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Holiday Bowl loss, AP five final poll thirteenth. Two thousand

663
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and seven, you were eleven and two Las Vegas Bowl

664
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win over UCLA. You were fourteenth nineteen eighty five eleven

665
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and three Citrus Bowl loss, AP sixteen overall, number sixteen

666
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overall in the EIGHTP pole. Two thousand and six Las

667
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,599
Vegas Bowl victory over Oregon big win there eleven and two.

668
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Final season record with a number sixteen rank in the

669
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final AP poll ninety four was ten and three with

670
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a Copper Bowl win. AP final Poll ranking of eighteen.

671
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Nineteen eighty ninety were ten and three. Holiday Bowl loss,

672
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you ended up twenty second in the country. Nineteen ninety

673
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Holiday Bowl loss, you ended up twenty second. Two thousand

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and eight, you were ten in three with a Las

675
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Vegas Bowl loss AP pole top twenty five and then

676
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twenty one twelve and two Liberty Bowl loss AP twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at this, Ronnie.

678
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Speaker 3: Let's say BYU loses, right, that's going to impact every

679
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:05,440
BYU fans outlook on this season, even if there is

680
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,079
some sort of roster attrition, impactful roster attrition, coaching staff attrition,

681
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,599
whatever it may be, right, any sort of attrition, like,

682
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:18,039
they're still going to hold BYU to a standard of

683
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,440
winning bowl games even though BWA's.

684
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Speaker 2: Won forty five only you know forty five.

685
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Speaker 3: It's kind of a coin flip in these bowl games

686
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because you're going against high level G four or G

687
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,279
six teams or good Power four teams. Typically if you

688
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,400
look at the historical record and look who you're playing against,

689
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So a lot of times when Bway loses games, it's

690
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because you're going against a G six G five team

691
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that has ten plus victories or a P four team

692
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:47,799
that's in that seven eight to nine win territory. And

693
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:50,759
this year you're going against a nine win Georgia Tech

694
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,559
team nine to three Top twenty five. Very few occasions

695
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,880
in which you've played a ranked team in bowl games,

696
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,480
and when you do that, it's hard to get wins.

697
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,680
Hard to get wins. You did it in seven, sorry,

698
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,680
you did it in uh sorry nine against Oregon State,

699
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but it doesn't always happen.

700
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Speaker 2: You did it in ninety six versus Kansas State.

701
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Speaker 3: That was a ranked win, but it's tough, tough to

702
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:23,960
get those dubs. So it's gonna impact the final outlook

703
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,799
of this team. Right now, you're twelfth. If you win,

704
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:32,480
you're probably moving up. That would put you, let's say

705
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number four all time. It'd be the fourth best season

706
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,359
per the Ape Pole, because I don't see them jumping

707
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,039
up to number seven, but you could move up right

708
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,079
with a win over the top twenty five team. Let's

709
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:50,079
say you get to eleven. Okay, that would be fourth

710
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,680
best all time. Okay, then you couple in Texas Tech.

711
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Where does Texas Tech end up? If they if they

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end up losing in that quarter five game, that may

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impact you a little bit. If they end up winning

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the Natty, then all of a sudden, right then, all

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of a sudden, you're like, well, man, this may be

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the second best or third best team all time in

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BYA football history. You're competing then with who the nineteen

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ninety sixteen, the nineteen ninety sixteen that ended up top five.

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You get far away enough from nineteen eighty three and

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you're like, well, maybe it's better than that eighty three team.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I think.

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Speaker 3: Those two factors are you going to factor in how

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this team is viewed. But right now it's trending towards

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top five all time in BYU football history. Ronald the

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three man Weaver, how do you see it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Then I look at this, I think this is definitely

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a top five season in BA foot bus three. People

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can say top seven, argue that no doubt about it's

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top ten. But look, I think you can move up

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in the top five, especially because you just hit the

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nail on the coffin. If Texas Tech wins the National Championship,

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if I believe that they will, that is a national

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championship defense with the way that they play and how

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aggressive and how disciplined they are. And Joey Maguire is

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a good coach. Look if the Red Raiders do that, Ben,

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you lost to the National Championship you know team twice

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in that season. Those are your only losses. You beat

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a top twenty five Georgia Tech team, you beat a

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top twenty five what is a Utah team? And then

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how many other teams did you beat? The are Bowl eligible?

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How many other teams did you beat? Per ESPN plus

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are you know the you know ESPN FPI, they were

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in the top fifty, top you know eighty, top one hundred.

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All of that has to go in the f to

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couple into nothing against those back in the nineties. But

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the athleticism and the talent is way different now been Like,

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guys are way more skilled and way more athletic than

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probably what was maybe back in the day, things are different.

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To keep your body right, there's a lot more things

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that are hard on your body. Not granted they didn't

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have the modern medicine and the recovery process that these

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athletes have, but I think that's what it will couple

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down to. If Texas Tech were to win. But two

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things have to happen. Texas Tech has to be in

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the National Championship and or win it, and BOU has

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to win the Pop Tarts Bowl. They can't lose the

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Pop Tars Bowl. Ben and the Red Raiders get the

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National Championship. Because you and I both say this all

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the time, fans listening, I'll probably get a text mess

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to someone will talk to me about in person because

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I always tell people they don't like something I say,

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have a conversation with me. If BAU loses to the

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to Georgia Tech and a Pop Tarts Bowl, there would

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be people that will come for the typical the play

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calling almost terrible old this get rid of this, but

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like that that's gonna happen, right And if you say no,

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I'm not that type of fan, you're lying. You need

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to be honest with your fellow men's Ben always says,

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here's why. Remember the Jaron Hall game. You're a way

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he didn't play it in the bowl game against you

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A b remember that with Tyle out here and it

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was gonna Romney out there, you know, and Baylor Rock.

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Remember that, and everyone said this season is a failure.

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It's like, well, ten win season is a good season. No,

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it was not good. Like that's how fans like you, say,

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Ben react, so b A, you were not to win

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the Pop Tarts Bowl and Texas Tech went on. I

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think that and not even Texas Tech necessarily win the

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national Championship. I think that's a caveat Ben. I think

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that's extra Ba. You must win the Pop Tarts for

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fans to have to feel solidified deep in their loins,

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their heart, for them to be satisfied after Christmas and

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going to the New year, going to springball happy beIN by.

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You must defeat Georgia Tech first and then the Red

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Raiders do whatever they want second. Because if there's a loss, Bin,

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there's going to be uproaring. You and I both know it.

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Speaker 3: This is one of the best seasons in BYU football history.

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I hope BYU fans recognizing it are grateful for it,

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because it's trending to be a top five all time

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season and maybe even better than that. Tis the season

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to be grateful, to the season to be giving. By

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the way, go to the road Home guys, roadhome dot

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org and go to any Rocky Mountain Chevy dealership with

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your lightly used clothing, your food, nonperishable food items, and

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hygien items and drop those off at those Rocky Mountain

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Chevy dealerships so that we can bring those over to

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the road Home on December seventeenth, I believe.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: We're receiving donations all the way through December sixteenth, and

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we would love, love, love love to see you, you know,

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giving back.

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Speaker 2: If you have the means, let's go to break.

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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere more to get to This is Cougar

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Sports on one of three nine ninety eight point three

