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Speaker 2: Hello again, I'm Johnny mag with a Stephen Colbert based
Speaker 2: bonus episode. There was a normal episode of Daily Comedy
Speaker 2: News in the feed earlier Monday. This is an episode
Speaker 2: for Monday Middle of the day. Let's start with Friend
Speaker 2: of the Show John Marco SIRESI he was on MSNBC.
Speaker 2: What do you make of his cancellation. I mean, give
Speaker 2: me your big takeaway pictures? Are you buying that it's financial?
Speaker 2: Is it sad to see the end of such a
Speaker 2: kind of iconic brand in franchise? It could be financial,
Speaker 2: and you know, Epstein could have liked Trump for his drawings.
Speaker 2: Anything's possible. Interesting reporting from Variety, who said, I guess
Speaker 2: last week. The phrasing is earlier this week, but it's
Speaker 2: Monday morning, so I guess. Last week, sky Dane's chief
Speaker 2: David Ellison met with FCC chair Brendan Carr and others
Speaker 2: at the commission to lobby for the deal's approval, and notably,
Speaker 2: Ellison promised that CBS's editorial decision making reflects the varied
Speaker 2: ideot logical perspectives of American viewers. In a February seventh
Speaker 2: Fox News interview, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr commented on Trump's
Speaker 2: lawsuit against CBS and said the president quote has been
Speaker 2: right on these media bias issues. On Tuesday, January fifteenth,
Speaker 2: Ellison and his lawyer met with Carr. According to a
Speaker 2: letter posted in the FCC's docket, Ellison and Brill Brill
Speaker 2: is Ellison's lawyer, emphasized the public interest benefits of the
Speaker 2: sky Dance Paramount transaction end quote. We also urged the
Speaker 2: Media Bureau to promptly grant approval of the transfer of
Speaker 2: the CBS licenses to quote new Paramount. According to the
Speaker 2: filing quote. We made clear that mister Ellison will lead
Speaker 2: New Paramount with a talented team of executives focused on
Speaker 2: American storytelling. A lot to unpack there. In Variety, Rob
Speaker 2: Schneider wrote an opinion piece for Fox News. Rob Schneider writes, respectfully,
Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert has been doing nothing but wayfer thinly disguised
Speaker 2: democratic propaganda talking points for the last eight years plus.
Speaker 2: While I completely support mister Colbert's freedom of speech, his
Speaker 2: utter disdain for half of America and every swing state
Speaker 2: greatly diminished his audience potential. I also respect Colbert's direct
Speaker 2: criticism of his employer, CBS Paramount, and his opinion that
Speaker 2: they cave to President Trump when they settled their lawsuit
Speaker 2: against the sitting president. That took guts. I'll give him that.
Speaker 2: But Colbert, like ABC Late Night host Jimmy Kimmel, excluded
Speaker 2: conservatives completely from his show and limited parentheses prevented his
Speaker 2: audience from hearing opposing viewpoints. Colbert fed liberal slopped to
Speaker 2: his liberal minded Kamala supporters, and cared less about challenging
Speaker 2: them intellectually by actually appealing to their higher nature or
Speaker 2: engaging in thought provoking debate. Nah, just keep crapping on
Speaker 2: half the country that's no longer afraid to say women
Speaker 2: don't have penises and boys shouldn't get to beat up
Speaker 2: girls in girls' sports. So, while I support mister Colbert's
Speaker 2: First Amendment right for free speech, great point, Rob Schneider. Yeah.
Speaker 2: As for CBS Paramount, they are a private company and
Speaker 2: they have to pay the bills or used to, so
Speaker 2: they can fire anyone they want in Colbert, who under
Speaker 2: an estimated twenty million dollars salary, was reportedly losing the
Speaker 2: company forty million dollars per year. Several more paragraphs there
Speaker 2: than Rob ends with. I wish mister Colbert are much
Speaker 2: success in whatever he does next. Show business is a
Speaker 2: tough business. Rob was on Fox and Friends.
Speaker 1: Colbert never had me on his show. Neither has Jimmy
Speaker 1: Kimmel or well, I guess I was on a couple
Speaker 1: of times early. But look, it's here's what happens. Like
Speaker 1: Colbert already cut the pie. It's a pizza. He already
Speaker 1: cut it in half. His potential audience. He cut it
Speaker 1: in half with it just by cutting out all conservatives
Speaker 1: at all, not caring about you know, the forty seven
Speaker 1: states that may have a different opinion than the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party of open borders, and women have junk between their legs.
Speaker 1: We have to And so he had half the pie
Speaker 1: already gone, and then then he has to divide that
Speaker 1: pizza in three slices with Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 1: And then so he's he's he's working for a third
Speaker 1: of a piece of pie, and that's just not going
Speaker 1: to pay the bills. They have two hundred employees, and frankly,
Speaker 1: you know I have more more people will watch this
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Then you know, for his advertising group that
Speaker 1: everybody on TV seems to still think is important that
Speaker 1: eighteen to thirty five group, and it's just that audience
Speaker 1: isn't there anymore. It's I mean, the late night show
Speaker 1: is a relic. But the thing about it which was
Speaker 1: special when I was a kid, you know, when we
Speaker 1: were you know, my family were all, you know, climbing
Speaker 1: mom and Dad's bed and watching TV. Johnny Carson was
Speaker 1: he made the show for everybody. He didn't alienate anyone,
Speaker 1: and you never knew who he kind of thought that
Speaker 1: these guys all leaned left like most of the media,
Speaker 1: but you never knew one hundred percent. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of a beautiful thing. And I hope it goes back
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: Rosie O'Donnell jumped on Instagram on Sunday and wrote, Hey,
Speaker 2: Tangerine Trump. First you said I should be stripped of
Speaker 2: my citizenship. Now you're publicly celebrating that Stephen Colbert lost
Speaker 2: his job. You've never understood the role of comedy or
Speaker 2: the role of truth. You think isolent seeing a comedian
Speaker 2: means you've won something you haven't. Stephen said up to
Speaker 2: you like so many of us have. Not because it
Speaker 2: was easy, but because it was necessary. He told the
Speaker 2: truth with wit and courage night after night. Well, you
Speaker 2: used your platform to spread fear, lies and hate. John
Speaker 2: Oliver was in Eerie, Pennsylvania. He was part of that
Speaker 2: stunt to rebrand the baseball team the Moon Mammoths. He
Speaker 2: was asked about Stephen Colbert. John Oliver said, I love Steven,
Speaker 2: I love his staff, I love that show. It's incredibly said.
Speaker 2: I'm partly excited to see what they're going to do
Speaker 2: the next ten months. It's terrible, terrible news for the
Speaker 2: world of comedy. Late night shows mean a lot to me,
Speaker 2: not just because I work in them, but because even
Speaker 2: growing up in England, I would watch Letterman Show, which
Speaker 2: of course was Stephen's Show. I think about what a
Speaker 2: glamorous world that was so to have got to be
Speaker 2: on Letterman Show, and Stephen's Show has always been one
Speaker 2: of the most fun things. So it's very very sad news.
Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing what he's going to do next,
Speaker 2: because that man will not stop now. The Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal jumped in again. I think many things can be
Speaker 2: true at once. My spidy senses tingling with the timing
Speaker 2: here in the merger deal, but also the numbers and
Speaker 2: the financials. As you look at all this, it's not
Speaker 2: crazy talk to end this show. Perhaps there's a scenario
Speaker 2: where you could do some cost cutting or figure something out.
Speaker 2: But the Journal points out Colbert has two point four
Speaker 2: million viewers most nights, less than one percent of the country.
Speaker 2: It's a tiny fraction of Johnny Carson's viewership at a
Speaker 2: time when the nation was smaller. The late show's audience
Speaker 2: has fallen more than thirty percent in the past five years,
Speaker 2: and even more among the eighteen to forty nine s.
Speaker 2: Colbert's operation reportedly costs north of one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: annually and hemorrhaged forty million dollars last year, nearly half
Speaker 2: being the host salary. The Journal rights America depends on
Speaker 2: a shared sense of Wii boomers and gen X once
Speaker 2: found some of that on late night TV from millennials
Speaker 2: and gen Z. A fragmented media ecosystem that's insufficiently popular
Speaker 2: to sustain a common culture presents real challenges. Any revolution
Speaker 2: would not be televised. It would be streamed from one
Speaker 2: thousand angles across a million platforms. The New Yorker happens
Speaker 2: to have a piece by Stephen Colbert this week. It
Speaker 2: is titled Stephen Colbert and Kenneth Tynan's Profile of Johnny Carson.
Speaker 2: Apparently there was a good profile of Carson in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy eight. Colbert wrote that article is twenty thousand words.
Speaker 2: It's giving ahead. While I host a show in the
Speaker 2: same time slot and tradition as Carson, I am not Johnny.
Speaker 2: Neither was quote unquote Johnny, who is described as an
Speaker 2: eighth of Carson, the rest being hidden behind midwestern and
Speaker 2: professional recipitudes and protective sodality. A lot of big words
Speaker 2: here of producers, lawyers, and execs who pronounced Johnny a
Speaker 2: reformed drinker, loving son and husband, faithful to the point
Speaker 2: of celibacy. Two or false? Do we care Johnny or Johnny?
Speaker 2: He was there every night like the tide, and we
Speaker 2: loved him. I have the Carson books, I've watched the
Speaker 2: Carson biles. I have a dear friendship with his old
Speaker 2: writer and pure Dick Cavitt. One disappointment. Tynan presents no process.
Speaker 2: How did Johnny arrive at quote between sixteen and twenty
Speaker 2: two short fire jokes per monologue? What happened behind that
Speaker 2: rainbow curtain? I know the articles about the man, not
Speaker 2: the job, but were told the show is Johnny john
Speaker 2: is the show. You'll find that in the print edition
Speaker 2: July twenty eighth, twenty twenty five issue of The New
Speaker 2: Yorker The Town podcast. They did this asn't aside. They
Speaker 2: were talking about the Colbert of it all. They said,
Speaker 2: Mullaney on Netflix was getting five hundred thousand viewers, five
Speaker 2: hundred thousand, five hundred thousand Formulaney. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that thing's coming back. Maybe just with the zeitgeist, they
Speaker 2: think people will rally behind Malani. But like I said,
Speaker 2: when the show was airing season two, I didn't think
Speaker 2: the show was working creatively and I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was really capturing a buzz. And I may have been right.
Speaker 2: Friend of the show, Jason Zinneman in The New York
Speaker 2: Times right, it's getting canceled may end up being the
Speaker 2: best thing that's ever happened to Stephen Colbert. The same
Speaker 2: cannot be said for its impact on late night television.
Speaker 2: His quick, improv honed wit and intellectual depth could feel
Speaker 2: hamstrung by the show's short segments, and sometimes when he
Speaker 2: got on a good riff or dug into an area
Speaker 2: of major interest. You wondered if it would fit better
Speaker 2: on a podcast. Zinneman rights, late night television is not finished.
Speaker 2: In fact, you could say we're reverting to the era
Speaker 2: before the early nineties, when NBC dominated and there were
Speaker 2: occasionally network alternatives. The loss of the late show is
Speaker 2: not the deathnell, but it is a deathnell. If video
Speaker 2: killed the radio star, who did in the network late
Speaker 2: night superstar. The Internet is the primary suspect, increasing competition,
Speaker 2: shipping away at ad dollars, and transforming the time at
Speaker 2: which we watch these shows, making the term late night
Speaker 2: itself a misnomer all caps. Of course, money matters, but
Speaker 2: so does the climate which it's allocated. Late night used
Speaker 2: to be, among other things, a prestige business. The hosts
Speaker 2: were some of the key phases of the network. On
Speaker 2: top of profits, the show's generated press, attention, in house promotion,
Speaker 2: and buzz. Now, media bosses seem more willing to cut
Speaker 2: a check for millions of dollars to make a political
Speaker 2: problem go away, rather than spend that money to keep
Speaker 2: their late night show. Yeah. I talked about this in
Speaker 2: one of the other bonuses. So at some point you
Speaker 2: have to ask the question, who are we Fox shows
Speaker 2: sports and animation. You know, maybe CBS is looking at
Speaker 2: that and going, all right, why don't we just do
Speaker 2: our procedurals from E two eleven. We'll show some football
Speaker 2: during the fall, and why do we have a late
Speaker 2: night show? Not crazy? The Hollywood Reporter wondered what's next
Speaker 2: for Colbert, and they pointed out while he lives in
Speaker 2: New Jersey, he's from South Carolina and one of those
Speaker 2: states Senate seats is open next year. Colbert has joked
Speaker 2: about the idea of running for office for years. When
Speaker 2: asked directly about this in two thousand and seven, Larry
Speaker 2: King asked if Colbert would ever consider running for president,
Speaker 2: and again, that's two thousand and seven, a lifetime ago
Speaker 2: in some ways, Colbert said, obviously, every boy's thought of it.
Speaker 2: And when you look at a field of candidates like this,
Speaker 2: so that's the two thousand and eight campaign, you know,
Speaker 2: and trailed off. I thought about that a lot over
Speaker 2: the weekend. Stephen Colbert is sixty one, so he'd be
Speaker 2: sixty three sixty four when the next election rolls around.
Speaker 2: He's nice looking, he's telegenic, he's good at the art
Speaker 2: of the media. He's not eighty years old. The people
Speaker 2: who don't like him, Rob Schneider apparently already don't like him,
Speaker 2: so there's no loss there. If I'm the Democrats, I'm
Speaker 2: calling Stephen Colbert today. If you're not alreaddy on the
Speaker 2: phone with him, you should be. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he would want the gig, but if they rolled him
Speaker 2: out as a candidate, very interesting. The current holder of
Speaker 2: the office, among other things on his resume, hosted a
Speaker 2: show called The Apprentice and was really good at media
Speaker 2: and look at you head to you tonight Late Nighter
Speaker 2: points out, let's pay a lot of attention to John
Speaker 2: Stewart tonight. Colbert and Stewart are friends. John Stewart is
Speaker 2: an EP on The Late Show. They share the same manager,
Speaker 2: James baby Doll Dixon. We'll see what John has to say.
Speaker 2: And that is a bonus episode back in the morning
Speaker 2: with a normal episode. It was a very busy weekend.
Speaker 2: Just in case you haven't caught everything. Going back Friday
Speaker 2: morning's episode where I recapped Shane Gillis, I thought was strong,
Speaker 2: and then it's just been bonus regular, bonus regular, bonus regular.
Speaker 2: I'll be back in the morning. See then, thanks for listening,