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<v Speaker 1>Weird. We welcome back midnight viewers to Father Malone's weekly

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<v Speaker 1>round up. I'm Father Malone, and sitting to me in

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<v Speaker 1>a one horse open sleigh is Miss Ripley Jean. You

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<v Speaker 1>are never going near a one horse open sleigh you

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<v Speaker 1>and horses. No, it'd be like that dog's barking jingle

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<v Speaker 1>bells song that will no doubt be hearing this month,

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<v Speaker 1>except without the melody. Yes, it's the holiday season, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's every possibility will be wall to wall Christmas horror

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<v Speaker 1>movies here at the Roundup, but not this week. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing unconventional Christmas movies today. Your Lethal Weapons, Your Long Kiss,

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<v Speaker 1>Good Nights, Your Last Boy, Scouts, basically anything written by

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Black, Your Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bangs. You're Nice Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Was the Predator set at Christmas? If it isn't, it

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<v Speaker 1>should have been. You know, he gets shipped for doing

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<v Speaker 1>that set in every movie in Los Angeles at Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's endlessly charming, and I guess you have

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<v Speaker 1>to spend some time there to appreciate the artifice of

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<v Speaker 1>it all. There's absolutely no discernible change in your surroundings

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<v Speaker 1>except for one month. All the street lights are festooned

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<v Speaker 1>with glitter and tinsel. It's surreal and wonderful, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to introduce our first film if I

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<v Speaker 1>was describing it to you with total irony. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Red One.

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<v Speaker 2>Four eight, four hundred and ninety nine five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go heavy, got it? Constronged?

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<v Speaker 2>Nick?

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<v Speaker 1>God, brush your shoulders, salt. Red One is gonna Loover evening? Ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you so excited about? Of course your boyfriend's here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's with Red? Someone took Nick. We're gonna find him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing in Jack O'Malley. He's probably the best tracker

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. You guy's a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Red One, also known as Saint Nicholas Myra, was abducted

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<v Speaker 2>from the North Pole Complex.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying Santa Claus has been kidnapped? Garcia? What?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't trust this guy? He's on the list? You

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean that list NL four? Are you telling me

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<v Speaker 1>this clown is a level four naughty lister, A level

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<v Speaker 1>four naughty lister. Oh so funny. You're gonna help us

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<v Speaker 1>find Nick? Come on, let's go. There is much in

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<v Speaker 1>here that is not of the natural world. Who's that grampus.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they doing? They're playing crapsh slop.

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<v Speaker 1>Think if you don't need me here, I might just

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the car. We need to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of no Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>There's worst ways to go out and trying to save

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week I'd bemoaned spending two hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on Gladiator two. I take it back. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a wise investment given the level of filmmaking going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Red One a whimsical children's Christmas movie. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a kid's movie, because if it's not, then the

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers hate us, or at least hold us in some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of contempt. Also cost two hundred and fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Elf cost thirty three and they shot that in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Elf seemed to come from a place of love.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how every year, someone you know, or some

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<v Speaker 1>hacked television reporter will inform us that Christmas has become

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<v Speaker 1>too commercialized. Red One is that sentiment in cinematic form,

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly bald cash grab, an attempt at a franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first clue should have been the author, Chris Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>The mad bastard behind the Fast and the Furious films.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't hire him for a standalone though that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a subtle hint. The big cleague light of a

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<v Speaker 1>hitt is that anything with Dwayne Johnson, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt at a franchise. So here's the plot. Chris Kringle,

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<v Speaker 1>help us all Santa is real. He's got a bodyguard,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets kidnapped. Bodyguard turns to a regular human who

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<v Speaker 1>hates Christmas. But it is a hell of a tracker

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<v Speaker 1>to find him. Guess what happens? Well before Captain America

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out that Christmas is magic thanks to Black Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to visit all the other holiday folk. See,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an organization that keeps peace between the mythological creatures

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus Christ. How about it's just too foggy to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the presence and you need a special reindeer to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. This is a bastardized Men in Black slash

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<v Speaker 1>Nightmare Before Christmas slash Marvel film. Is Chris Morgan just

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<v Speaker 1>a pseudonym for an AI bot? Because if you just

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<v Speaker 1>fed in what people like about Christmas movies, out would

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<v Speaker 1>pop this thing. What's particularly galling a side of everything is.

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<v Speaker 1>It was directed by Jake Kasden. I had the highest

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<v Speaker 1>of hopes for him as a filmmaker, son of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best screenwriters pound for pound ever produced, Lawrence Kasten.

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<v Speaker 1>Empire Strikes Back, Raiders, The Lost Dark, Silverado, Continental Divide

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<v Speaker 1>is a great script. Now, I know, talent isn't genetic,

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<v Speaker 1>although in Jason Rerightman's case, I think he inherited all

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<v Speaker 1>of his dad's talent. But Kasden's first film is the

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely terrific Zero Effect with Bill Pullman. It's a modern

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<v Speaker 1>day take on Sherlock Holmes. It's literally an adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>Scandal in Bohemia. But it is so odd and so fun,

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely bucking all nods to what a commercial film

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<v Speaker 1>should be. An unlikable lead, a convoluted and at times

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<v Speaker 1>completely inessential plot, a studio film that was a gentle

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<v Speaker 1>character study. Oh Man, the future looks bright for young Kasden,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he did Walk Hard. The Dewey Cox Story

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<v Speaker 1>a film that has forever sharpened my criticism when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to musical biopics. And it's absolutely hilarious. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what's not funny? Red One, Not one joke Lands I

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<v Speaker 1>did like the polar Bear, and Crampis is great. He's

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<v Speaker 1>played by Christopher heive you, that crazy redheaded wildling from

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<v Speaker 1>Game of Thrones, and he was in the prequel to

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. He is always great. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>All the flights of fancy and glittering CGI cities and

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<v Speaker 1>talking polar bears can't disguise the fact that there's not

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<v Speaker 1>one original thing going on here. Let me describe Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Evans' introductory scene. Now, he's a world class mercenary minus

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<v Speaker 1>the military garb and training. He's hired by clandestine wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>people to infiltrate enemies and steal secrets, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing in the opening scene. While on his way

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<v Speaker 1>to do that job, he goes through a Starbucks, steals

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee, steals a newspaper, and continues to the job. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's slick. We're meant to think he's a real troublemaker

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<v Speaker 1>this one. What if there was a cop in that Starbucks?

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he's slick, even if he can talk his

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<v Speaker 1>way out of it, why would he seek the attention

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<v Speaker 1>on his way to a highly illegal job that he's

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<v Speaker 1>being paid no doubt? Hundreds of thousands of dollars to due.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like he's reckless this way at any

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<v Speaker 1>other point in the film, it's just boring shorthand what's

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<v Speaker 1>the laziest way we can show you who this guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>This occurs immediately after I should point out a flashback

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<v Speaker 1>to him as a child behaving in exactly the same fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>A hat on a hat. Two hundred and fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in eighty five, the Salkins, the Superman producers, they

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<v Speaker 1>released a thirty million dollar flop called Santa Claus the Movie,

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<v Speaker 1>a movie I'll note that was originally going to be

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<v Speaker 1>directed by John Carpenter. He got as far as casting.

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<v Speaker 1>People thought they were nuts spending that money on that

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<v Speaker 1>idea for a movie, and it was a flop, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was original and it had John Lithgow as the villain.

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<v Speaker 1>Red One has Kiernan Shipka, an actress. I still can't

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<v Speaker 1>figure out if she's any good or if I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember her fondly from Mad Men. Gee. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say something really positive about Red One here. Evidently a

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<v Speaker 1>good fifty million dollars of the budget was because of

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<v Speaker 1>delays due to Dwayne Johnson. I guess anything that reduces

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<v Speaker 1>his role in popular entertainment is a positive on that level.

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend red One Boy. You said it, you

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<v Speaker 1>go next, HP, for the love of all that is tense,

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<v Speaker 1>will get us out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Sip.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, HP. And right after this, the lovely Darlene

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<v Speaker 1>Love is stomping behind to sing, baby, please come home.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have for us? Rip? Wow, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas movie? Yeah, you're right. Holy shit. Speaking of terrible movies,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Cobra. Society is breeding a new kind of criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also breeding a new kind of cup. Meet Cobra.

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<v Speaker 1>He does the job nobody wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you use unnecessary deadly force?

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<v Speaker 1>I used everything I had. You know you have an

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<v Speaker 1>attitude problem. Yeah, but it's just a little one. You

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<v Speaker 1>think you would recognize what you saw him?

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<v Speaker 2>You ken?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Kill?

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<v Speaker 1>You? Do what you have to do to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lead on this mania. If I find do what you

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<v Speaker 1>do best? Just alone. Is Cobra the strong arm of

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<v Speaker 1>the law. Crime is the disease. He's the cure. Late

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty five, I went to a creation convention.

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<v Speaker 1>You used to refer to sci fi conventions by who

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<v Speaker 1>was putting it on back in the day that meant creation.

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<v Speaker 1>When a convention was a little more pointed, like Star

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<v Speaker 1>Trek or Doctor Who, they would probably call them one

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<v Speaker 1>of those, but they were still being put on by

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<v Speaker 1>creation anyway. Late in eighty five, I had become friendly

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of poster dealers, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>pulled me aside because he had a brand new one

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<v Speaker 1>sheet for a film that wouldn't be coming out until

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<v Speaker 1>the following year. My twelve year old heart nearly exploded

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<v Speaker 1>when he pulled out that red and black image of

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<v Speaker 1>sunglassed and match stick sliced alone with some high tech

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<v Speaker 1>looking machine pistol in his hand with a laser sight.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought it that day, and I hung it on

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<v Speaker 1>my wall until May twenty fifth, nineteen eighty six. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw the film. I took the poster down

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<v Speaker 1>to that afternoon. If someone were to ask for a

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<v Speaker 1>time capsule selection of the platonic ideal of an eighties

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<v Speaker 1>action film, you'd probably put in die Hard or Lethal Weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>anything by Joel Silver really, but I suggest that those

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<v Speaker 1>movies were the exceptions to the rule. The majority of

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<v Speaker 1>eighties action big dumb, self important self serious could be

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<v Speaker 1>represented best by Cobra Marian Kobretti. He's the top dog

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<v Speaker 1>of the zombie squad, the man you call when there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one left to call. He sits around the house

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<v Speaker 1>in mirrored shades and leather driving gloves, eating cold pizza

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<v Speaker 1>that he's cutting into tiny or slices with a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of scissors, and watching Toys r Rus commercials. This happens

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie and it is my favorite fucking scene.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cobretty. That's a made up surname, sliced alone. Made

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<v Speaker 1>up that name so he could have the nickname Cobra. Legitimately,

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<v Speaker 1>Cobra is the baddest of badasses. He's monosyllamic. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to kill a suspect and knock out a journalist

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<v Speaker 1>for asking him if that was necessary. He has no

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<v Speaker 1>time for pencil pushers or due process. He's a man.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Dirty Harry for morons. I mean that lovingly.

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<v Speaker 1>That film Dirty Harry got criticized at the time for

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<v Speaker 1>lionizing the rogue cop, but that movie is more complex

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Harry's actions cause him to quit the force

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. No one remembers that because there were

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<v Speaker 1>sequels to be made, but the moral ambiguity was there

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<v Speaker 1>and it is at play. Actions have consequences and result

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<v Speaker 1>in a feeling of hopelessness, certainly not joy. Remember Callahan's

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<v Speaker 1>speech to the bank robber. I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the truth. In all this excitement, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a forty four magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>Do you a bunk?

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<v Speaker 1>For all it's seeming badassary, it's a joke between cop

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<v Speaker 1>Contrast that with Cobra as he confronts a killer, he

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk to you. Are you bringing

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<v Speaker 2>Now? I'll bring it in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do that. Why I don't deal with psychos? I

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't no psychle Man, good disease.

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<v Speaker 1>And the cure Another movie you could put in a

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<v Speaker 1>that would in many ways signal the death knell of

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<v Speaker 1>prior to Cobra, Sylvester Stallone was offered Beverly Hills Cop,

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<v Speaker 1>Axel Foley became are you ready Axel Cobretty. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>Cobra taking down the stuffed shirts and privileged of Beverly Hills. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in search of a screenplay. But here's the thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>into Marion Kobretty. His name is Marion so sly can

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<v Speaker 1>that book A Running Duck would be renamed fair Game,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that would be made into another film of

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<v Speaker 1>the same name, which starred Cindy Crawford and Billy Baldwin.

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<v Speaker 1>So the film follows Ingrid Nudesen, a model played by

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<v Speaker 1>Brigitte Nielsen in a Harpo marxwig, and she witnesses a

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about a lot here on the Round Up.

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<v Speaker 1>subtly remind us that Dirty Harry was a good movie,

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<v Speaker 1>so this must be a good movie too. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>Both of those guys are in Dirty Harry. The villain

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<v Speaker 1>is played by Brian Thompson. I think most people would

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<v Speaker 1>he is forever and always the spandax Clad Also Harpo

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<v Speaker 1>marx wigged helicopter pilot from the climax of the great

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<v Speaker 1>film Miracle Mile, a movie we are going to definitely

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<v Speaker 1>be covering at some point. Brian Thompson has a group

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<v Speaker 1>called the New World where they all get together and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they needed the top guy from

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<v Speaker 1>the Zombie Squad. It seems if you just put a

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<v Speaker 1>plain clothes female officer by herself on literally any street,

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<v Speaker 1>these fools are gonna show up. I mean, Bragite Nielsen

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<v Speaker 1>is driving toward the murder scene and Brian Thompson takes

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<v Speaker 1>off his pante hoose mask, walks to the center of

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<v Speaker 1>their leader. Oh boy. I know Brigitte and Sly were

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<v Speaker 1>married during the filming of this, and I gotta say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked they're not still together. Sparks are flying down

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<v Speaker 1>at the Sparkler factory that does not appear in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what. I am recommending this movie overall as much

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<v Speaker 1>as Ripley is, Oh stop, we agree more than we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the dumbest of dumb, dumb action movies. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of examples of action films that are

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<v Speaker 1>poorly made on top of everything else and can function

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<v Speaker 1>on the level of kitsch. But for pure unadulterated campiness,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go to a film with a budget

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty million dollars. Thirty million and eighty five. Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lost Arc cost twenty two years prior, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was set in the thirties. Remember that shot of

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<v Speaker 1>the sun coming up and they're digging, and Indy pulls

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<v Speaker 1>on his hat and they're all burning hot silhouettes. God,

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<v Speaker 1>that was beautiful. Cobra does have one actual piece of

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<v Speaker 1>beauty in it. I'm not a car guy, but even

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<v Speaker 1>I will admit the sheer, gorgeous gorgeosity of Cobra's ride.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fifty mercury lead sled, apparently mister Stallone's own vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>When they started smashing it to shit, I got really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they made stunt cars, but it's just irresponsible

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<v Speaker 1>showing something so beautiful beaten so badly. Fuck you, Tyler Dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>my turn, unconventional Christmas pick, It's better off dead. Does

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<v Speaker 1>it ever feel like everyone's got more going than you do. Oops,

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is smart. Shit, you're al Myers kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty stupid to me. Thank you, you say, the best

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<v Speaker 1>skier in town just ran off with your girlfriend. Even

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<v Speaker 1>your younger brother does better than you do. And that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody even cares.

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<v Speaker 2>That's broke up quickly. Oh that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you might be right, but remember one thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even been to New York City. Nobody was ever

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<v Speaker 1>better off dead. The truth is I gonna obski you

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<v Speaker 1>any day of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, Yeah, you want to wrest, I'll take you

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<v Speaker 2>on any day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sucker, go that way really fast. If something gets in

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<v Speaker 1>your way. Fun turn, all you need is juts. All right, now, turn, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna race, I'm gonna lose, and I'm gonna die in

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<v Speaker 2>that order.

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<v Speaker 1>Out and you'll never doubt yourself again.

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<v Speaker 2>Ski on one skime better off dead. And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>real shame when folks be throwing away a perfectly good

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<v Speaker 2>white boy like this, an abnormal look at a normal teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>Just as Cobra was dirty Henry for dumb dumbs, better

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<v Speaker 1>off dead is Harold and Maud for fans of Mad magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>This came out the same year I got that Cobra poster.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the audience for this. I'm sure you were too,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening midnight viewers. Just like the next year,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the target for pee Wee's Big Adventure. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are some parallels, not least of which is eg Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>She's Dottye in pee Wee's Big Adventure and appears here

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<v Speaker 1>as the singer at the dance, singing the title song.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone who doesn't love her? Did you see

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<v Speaker 1>Valley Girl? But the tone is even more of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting at this film Peewee seemed to signal not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a wave of like minded filmmakers, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>an opening into the studio system for those not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>interested in the types of films being targeted at us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the John Hughes of it all? Kids, don't

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<v Speaker 1>they related to John Hughes movies because he was giving

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<v Speaker 1>adult voice to teenager's wildly unfocused burst of changing body

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<v Speaker 1>and personality. But it was a lie. No one talked

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Name one motherfucker whoever said zoom dweeby to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying anything in Better Off Dead represents reality

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<v Speaker 1>in any way but man, it does feel like being

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager. The surreality included the stop motion Hamburgers voiced

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<v Speaker 1>by David Lee Roth, the Howard Cosell voiced competitor in

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<v Speaker 1>a daily drag race, that girl dating the basketball team.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a weird one and kind of a marvel

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<v Speaker 1>that it got made. So Laine Meyer is dumped by

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. The luminous Amanda wiss I once had a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about nothing at all with her in a casting

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<v Speaker 1>agent's office back in the mid nineties. In the entire time,

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<v Speaker 1>my mind was screaming, it's Tina, that girl that appears

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<v Speaker 1>in all your nightmares. Because of that fucking sequence in

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<v Speaker 1>Nightmare on Elm Street. It was really hard to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it together. Then Lane spends the rest of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to kill himself. I love this movie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to sound like sacrilege, but this movie does have

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<v Speaker 1>one aspect that is stronger than Harold and Maud. Harold

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<v Speaker 1>is just pretending Lane wants to do it. Intention matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of that intent, everything around Lane is necessarily heightened.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom's cooking is bad. Check out the tentacle monstrosity.

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<v Speaker 1>Lane's mom is whipping up sincerely on rewatch. I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself looking away during her meal presentations and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, way more than I remembered, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are nauseating. That's Kim Darby as the mom. I

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<v Speaker 1>think most would know her from this, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to check her out in True Grit, that's the original

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<v Speaker 1>with John Wayne. She's young Maddie in it, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking amazing. Oh, I guess this is becoming a bit

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<v Speaker 1>on the show actors with their voices replaced. We had

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<v Speaker 1>Rene Santoni replacing Lee Ving's voice as mister Body and Clue.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this movie that persistent newspaper boy, you just

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<v Speaker 1>heard it in your head. I didn't even need to

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<v Speaker 1>cut in the clip. Well, that kid, Damien Slade, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like that. The voice berating John Cusack for

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars belongs to Yano and Naya. Speaking of Christmas movies,

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<v Speaker 1>he plays Grover Dill in a Christmas Story, Scott Farkas's

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<v Speaker 1>Evil Toady. All the Christmas entertainments are colliding. There is

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<v Speaker 1>so much of this movie that lives in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis Armstrong's top hadded advice Lane, I've been going to

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<v Speaker 1>this high school for seven and a half years. I know, dummy,

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<v Speaker 1>I know high school girls. Diane Franklin's advice Kikizas, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally believe she was a French actress man e. G. Daly,

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda Wiz, Diane Franklin, hell Bugite Neil, and just a

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<v Speaker 1>cavalcade of formative attraction. On this week's round up. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be curious to hear what younger folk have to say

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<v Speaker 1>about this film. Actually, if you've never seen this film

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<v Speaker 1>and watch it, then drop me a line. Email address

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<v Speaker 1>is in the description. If you haven't seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, give it a watch, and also drop me

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<v Speaker 1>a line. I'm curious if you think it held up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it did. It even reaffirmed a theory of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Little never sounded like anyone he was impersonating. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the Howard Cosell voice here, and he does not

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<v Speaker 1>sound like Howard kosal As an Awes spectacle. A word

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<v Speaker 1>has it that upon seeing the film while in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of filming another movie with director Savage Steve Holland,

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<v Speaker 1>Well here, I'll just read you what Savage Steve had

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<v Speaker 1>to say in an interview with The Sneeze back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four. So we're all watching the Better

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<v Speaker 1>Off Dead screening that night and John walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie about twenty minutes into it. He walked out

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<v Speaker 1>and he never came back. The next morning, he basically

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<v Speaker 1>walked up to me and was like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>tricked me. Better Off Dead was the worst thing I

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<v Speaker 1>have ever seen. I will never trust you as a

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<v Speaker 1>director again, so don't speak to me. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, what's wrong? And he just said that I

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<v Speaker 1>sucked and it was the worst thing he had ever seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had used him and made a fool

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<v Speaker 1>out of him and all this other stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was just stunned because it was funny as shit and

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<v Speaker 1>he was great in it, and he was helping me

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<v Speaker 1>edit it through the summer. It was sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>and once he said all that stuff. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>That was the second time my heart was broken since

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<v Speaker 1>that girl. That Better Off Dead was about honors to God.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a solution. Are you listening you franchise Obsessed Studios.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is a guinea same lead actor, Hire Savage

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<v Speaker 1>Time Machine starring John Cusack. This will feature Laine Meyer

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<v Speaker 1>going back into Better Off Dead. I not only give

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<v Speaker 1>the final product, probably multiple times. How often do you

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<v Speaker 1>get an offer like that? Who's offering you that get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here? We are getting out of here, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>ex Miss Midnight Viewers. You may now return to your

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<v Speaker 1>Hallmark channels and your rankins on basses. I will leave

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<v Speaker 1>you with this bit of holiday advice. If you watch

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<v Speaker 1>a movie on that holiday, it's now a holiday movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck everyone else's opinion now not yours. Check out Midnight

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<v Speaker 1>Those are a blast. If you want to support midnight

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<v Speaker 1>Subscribers get episodes early and commercial free, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>television's attempt at filming stage productions. Oh It's a gas.

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<v Speaker 1>That series features this show's composer HP. You'll find links

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<v Speaker 1>to all of his stuff in the description as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Special hello to all of our UK listeners. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>an uptick in listenership across the Atlantic. Blackwood, that's in Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>Canary Wharf, but I want in. That's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We rounded it up again and again. I'm gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>you with a few words from Better Off Dead. This

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<v Speaker 1>I'm real sorry your mom blew up, Ricky.

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