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<v Speaker 1>Voices drift on winds untamed, where it's like spells that

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<v Speaker 1>can't be made.

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<v Speaker 2>Close your eyes and feel the sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Journey where no bounds are found opens inside your.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind the ordinary form behind color, swirl and stars line

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<v Speaker 2>in the Mental Mysteries, you'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Find Welcome to Mada Mysteries.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you don't know what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean, and today is going

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<v Speaker 6>to be so much fun for an episode. This is

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's borderline conspiratorial. I gotta say, because whenever I

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<v Speaker 6>stumbled across it, I was like, wait a second, that

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<v Speaker 6>that's kind of weird, you know. So we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>getting into the etymology of a Damon Damon Daimon. Some

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<v Speaker 6>people say it very different. We just looked it up

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<v Speaker 6>how to say it. I've seen it spelled so many times.

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<v Speaker 6>I've read about it so many times, but I never

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<v Speaker 6>heard it said. So some people say damon. I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's what we're gonna go with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, dude, and I'm really excited for this episode, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just with all of the things that we cover, man,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, the the demons or the daemons being

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<v Speaker 5>one of those entities that's kind of I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 5>very popular, you know, in in culture to to bring

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<v Speaker 5>that up, and personally I feel like it's to bring upon,

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<v Speaker 5>bring upon fear. But you know what, let's just see

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<v Speaker 5>what it's all about, dude.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, So, first of all, welcome in the one.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for joining us tonight. Uh, very

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<v Speaker 6>excited to see all of you. And uh, it's always

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<v Speaker 6>fun doing the Wonder Wizday shows because it's like it's

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<v Speaker 6>extra energy going on here and it.

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<v Speaker 5>Just I can feel it every time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I feel it. I feel it in my wretches.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>So White Boy Wizards said, what up?

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<v Speaker 5>Fan?

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<v Speaker 2>What to do?

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<v Speaker 4>White Boy Wizard? No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 6>Nol Rus said, what's up? Fucker's excited for the topic

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<v Speaker 6>topic today. I hope everyone had a great week so far.

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<v Speaker 6>H Taylor said, what's up? Weirdos? Indeed, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>like a badge of honor to become a weirdo. Now, absolutely, dude,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't be normal in a crazy world, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>No you can't. No, you can't. So uh yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 6>get into it. And and we're not we're not talking

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<v Speaker 6>about demons. Okay, even though, that's what history would like

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<v Speaker 6>to tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what this word means. So damon it damon or damon?

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<v Speaker 5>Hmmm you know how.

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<v Speaker 6>That damon it's basically demon with an A. All right,

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<v Speaker 6>So damon the forgotten guardian of your soul? Is it

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<v Speaker 6>your higher self?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay baby, yeah yeah, it's gonna be a naughty episode,

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<v Speaker 6>all right. So, uh, exploring the divine spirit within from

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<v Speaker 6>ancient Greece to modern mysticism. So when and this is

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<v Speaker 6>We're just gonna get this question out in the open

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<v Speaker 6>to get its get the ball rolling, because I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like so many people have been conditioned to look at

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<v Speaker 6>Damon and demon as the same exact thing. Now, demon

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<v Speaker 6>does have its etymological roots all the way back to Damon,

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<v Speaker 6>so that is where it started, and you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>able to see the process of how it eventually converted.

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<v Speaker 6>And it'll make a lot of sense, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 6>pretty well versed in like biblical history and stuff like

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<v Speaker 6>if you look back to Emperor Constantine and Council of

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<v Speaker 6>Nicea and all that craziness that was going on back

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<v Speaker 6>in those times. This is going to tickle your religious

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<v Speaker 6>and spiritual pickle today baby. So when was damon turned

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<v Speaker 6>into demon? So the transition from daemon or which literally

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<v Speaker 6>translated back then to divine guide or to demon, which

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<v Speaker 6>is known as an evil spirit, was not a single event,

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<v Speaker 6>but a gradual shift that took place between the first

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<v Speaker 6>and fifth centuries as Christianity expanded through the Greco Roman world.

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<v Speaker 6>So here's the timeline and the key players. So first off,

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<v Speaker 6>you got in the first century first century BC, you

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<v Speaker 6>have damon's or daemon's still are respected as as they're

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<v Speaker 6>known by, not necessarily dark and demonic and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>evil minions of Satan or anything just yet and and

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<v Speaker 6>so this was in Greek and in Roman thoughts. So

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<v Speaker 6>these were the people that were specifically bringing up the

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<v Speaker 6>word damon. Okay, So in Greek culture, especially in Plato,

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<v Speaker 6>Hesiod and the Stoics, damon's were neutral or benevolent spirits,

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<v Speaker 6>divine intermediaries, often equated with one's higher self or genius.

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<v Speaker 6>Also where the term genie comes from, by the way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a topic for another day. But uh so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>even in Roman culture under figures like Cicero and Seneca,

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<v Speaker 6>the Latin demonium still carried mostly positive or neutral connotations, So.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not necessarily good or bad, just kind of you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, just that intermediary or whatever in

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<v Speaker 5>between you and your higher self or what.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you Well, essentially it's kind of like the it's

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<v Speaker 6>like your noose in sex.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like.

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<v Speaker 6>Your what you're contemplating, your rainbow, bridge to God, to

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<v Speaker 6>the universe, to the source, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's your connection. Yeah, okay, so uh uh. So, first

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<v Speaker 6>you got Cicero in the first century BC. His quote

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<v Speaker 6>was no man was ever great without a touch of

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<v Speaker 6>divine inspiration his own deminium. So dominium and damon, same

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<v Speaker 6>same word, just different people saying it. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so he believed, you know, you're not going to get

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<v Speaker 6>anywhere fast if you don't have you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>not connected to your damon, and that's what he was

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<v Speaker 6>talking about, like it was literally your connection to the all,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. And so that's that was

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<v Speaker 6>that was Latin Cicero there. So then you move forward

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<v Speaker 6>to the first and second century CE, which is the

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<v Speaker 6>rise of Christianity and the birth of demonization. So as

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<v Speaker 6>early Christians began writing theological texts and preaching in the

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<v Speaker 6>Roman Empire, they rejected Pagan's spirituality, as everybody knows, even

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<v Speaker 6>though they brought in a lot of pagan kind of

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<v Speaker 6>you know, uh ideas yep, yep, yep, especially anything invoking

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<v Speaker 6>gods or spirits outside of the Christian God. So they

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<v Speaker 6>rejected them, rejected the pagan ideology and spirituality almost wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 6>Whenever it came to you know, the upper echelons. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we might still keep your little traditions, and we'll still

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<v Speaker 6>say the same words, and hey, we might even you know,

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<v Speaker 6>celebrate Christmas on fucking you know, the winter solstice, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what I mean. But for the most part, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they they tried to get rid of anything that was

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<v Speaker 6>godlike equal to or higher.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, okay, so anything like a like a So they're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to eliminate any kind of false idols, things of

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<v Speaker 5>that like, things of.

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<v Speaker 6>That nature, false idols, Yeah right, okay, I'll say that

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<v Speaker 6>with quotations, and they make it out to be such

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<v Speaker 6>a silly thing. That's not what the Pagans were about, though, bro, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>if the deeper you look into like what actual paganism

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<v Speaker 6>was all about, Yeah, you had your shitheads, as you

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<v Speaker 6>would in every you know, spiritual group, religious group or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>But for the most part, all a pagan was was

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<v Speaker 6>just somebody who like they were working with the land,

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<v Speaker 6>They were working with the spirits of the land, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they looked at everything in kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>a spiritual kind of way, and you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of the ways. Kind not to get too DeVault or

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<v Speaker 6>too diluted here, but like how the the Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 6>how they talk to the land, and they talked to

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<v Speaker 6>the wind, and they talked to the sky and stuff

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<v Speaker 6>like that. Right, That's that's essentially kind of what the

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<v Speaker 6>pagans were doing in a sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you're you're you're one with that, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean. You're not worshiping it necessarily exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, dude, you're working literally with the stars and

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<v Speaker 6>the placement of the stars in the sky, and you're

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<v Speaker 6>letting the sky and the stars tell the story of

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<v Speaker 6>what's going to be coming, and your you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>working together with it. And so anyway, we'll do a

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<v Speaker 6>whole other show on paganism because it's it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 6>wild rabbit hole to start diving into, like a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of their ancient beliefs and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think there's a lot of misconceptions, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so it'd be nice to clear that up. I think

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<v Speaker 5>even for myself, I just to get just a clear

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<v Speaker 5>understanding of the whole thing and where it started. And

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<v Speaker 5>I know we've covered it before, but but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>think we might have to uh go around the block again.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, dude.

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<v Speaker 6>So one of the earliest shifts came in the New

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<v Speaker 6>Testament writings, which was, you know, the Jesus writings. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 6>so the Greek word Daemenian or Daemonian, which is a

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<v Speaker 6>diminutive of daemon or damon, uh was used to describe

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<v Speaker 6>evil spirits or unclean spirits, spirits that Jesus cast it out,

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<v Speaker 6>so already right there, that's where it's kind of brought in.

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<v Speaker 6>That was in the New Testament, which was I mean

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<v Speaker 6>it was written. Nobody knows exactly when it was written.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people don't know exactly when it was written. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's a if you think about it, the Bible

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<v Speaker 6>is just a compilation of a bunch of different books,

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<v Speaker 6>and so there's sixty six books of the Bible, and

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<v Speaker 6>so many in the New Testament, so many in the

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<v Speaker 6>Old Testament. So a lot of the New Testament books

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<v Speaker 6>were written obviously after Jesus died.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, after Jesus died. And that's really the question

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<v Speaker 6>because you know, and this is a whole side tangent

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<v Speaker 6>we're probably going to get into. But so Jesus, people

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<v Speaker 6>don't even agree on what year he died. Some people

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<v Speaker 6>say thirty two AD, some people say thirty a D.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people say thirty three a D. I always looked

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<v Speaker 6>at it as like the year of our Lord. That's

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<v Speaker 6>literally what we call like the year that we're in. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>So if Jesus was born in year zero, let's just

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<v Speaker 6>say that he was born in year zero, then it

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<v Speaker 6>would make sense that he would have died in thirty

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<v Speaker 6>two AD because year zero still counts as a year, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, And so I don't know, it's weird, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>so he ended up dying, you know, in the thirties

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<v Speaker 6>a d. And after he died, then people started, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>writing books and stuff like that. But if you go

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<v Speaker 6>into the four main Gospels of the Bible with Matthew, Mark, Luke,

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<v Speaker 6>and John those stories. Depending on who you ask, some

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<v Speaker 6>people say it was written directly after Jesus died. Some

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<v Speaker 6>people say it was written while Jesus was still living,

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<v Speaker 6>and others say, well, no, it's actually not even written

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<v Speaker 6>until about seventy or eighty a d at the very earliest.

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<v Speaker 6>And I believe that that one. Don't quote me on this.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe the first one that they believe was written

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<v Speaker 6>was the Gospel of John.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but it's been a minicence. I looked into it,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a long time though. It's like a whole lifetime.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh you're talking about fifty sixty years at least after

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<v Speaker 6>his death, and so you know, it almost became mythological

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<v Speaker 6>just with the time, you know, right. So anyhow, uh

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<v Speaker 6>so it says these were not these were likely not

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<v Speaker 6>the word itself got rebranded in early Christian usage. So

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<v Speaker 6>or your demon, well, now whoa hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>You're talking to demons now, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And not of this right here?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly, because they want you to worship God and

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<v Speaker 6>Jesus that you know are outside of you, which it

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, So you had.

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<v Speaker 6>He goes, the gods of the Pagans are demons just outright, Ye,

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<v Speaker 5>That, right, I mean the thing I wonder whenever we

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<v Speaker 5>before the Bible was written, what was going on? People

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<v Speaker 5>Like what about before that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean you had the Old Testament, which was Jewish,

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<v Speaker 6>I say old Testaments, the Torah, which are you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they that's their Bible essentially, right, and and so I

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<v Speaker 6>And then obviously the New Testament came after that, once

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Because that's just one thing I always wonder about.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, why why wait so long to give us

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<v Speaker 5>this information through a prophet and to show us the way?

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<v Speaker 5>Like all those people before just had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and that's I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the Pagans and you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 6>Like the biggest fan of science, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 6>because I a lot. It's very bought and paid and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm going to take it there.

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<v Speaker 6>But what's even what science says is that humanity, the

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<v Speaker 6>three hundred thousand years was whenever the first you know,

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<v Speaker 6>human as we know them were around. And then you

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<v Speaker 6>even go back fifty thousand years and I believe South

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<v Speaker 6>Carolina where they found some kind of pottery that dates

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<v Speaker 6>back fifty thousand years, pottery with painting and carvings and

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<v Speaker 6>shited on it fifty thousand years. It dates back. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a good question. You know, where was you know,

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<v Speaker 6>these teachings and.

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<v Speaker 5>Why why did he wait so long to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>send some information to this said profit, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>say spread this message because before that everyone else just

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<v Speaker 5>was so misinformed, you know, just kind of worshiping whatever

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and by the way, this is not going to

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<v Speaker 6>be a Christianity bashing type of episode. We respect everybody,

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<v Speaker 6>just the curiosity. It's just more so yeah, like trying

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<v Speaker 6>to get into the mind of God, which you know,

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<v Speaker 6>say what you will about that, but yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>weird how how it all transpired in the timeline that

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<v Speaker 6>it all transpired as well. So yeah, justin Martyr saying

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<v Speaker 6>that the gods of the pagans are damons, which translates

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<v Speaker 6>to demons. Uh, then you have origin. He was another

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<v Speaker 6>early church father and he was around from one eighty

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<v Speaker 6>five to two fifty three a d. And his quote

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<v Speaker 6>is all damons are evil and the cause of men's sins.

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<v Speaker 6>So at this point, the word damonium, damonium, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know how to say. That damn word in Latin no

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<v Speaker 6>longer meant inner guide. It it becomes synonymous with satanic influence.

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<v Speaker 5>And then so if you're if you're if you're catching

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<v Speaker 5>or I don't know, whatever it could be. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, no, no, no, don't listen to that. That's

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<v Speaker 5>that's not the right answer. That's you know, listen to

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<v Speaker 5>what we're.

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<v Speaker 6>Saying exactly, don't don't trust yourself and don't trust your spirit,

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<v Speaker 6>even though it literally says in the Bible, the Kingdom,

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<v Speaker 6>the Kingdom of Heaven is within you, yep, right, and

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<v Speaker 6>even in is it Matthew six twenty two. If therefore

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<v Speaker 6>thine eye be single, then your whole body should be

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<v Speaker 6>full of light.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn, you just called that out. Huh that's your favorite.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, not gonna lie, just yeah, that's one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 6>So but that's just the I plan on getting that

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<v Speaker 6>tattoo one day. So now we jump ahead to the

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<v Speaker 6>fourth century, and this is where Augustine seals the seals

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<v Speaker 6>the deal. So Saint Augustine, not august Augustine, Augustine rather,

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<v Speaker 6>so Saint Augustine was around from three point fifty four

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<v Speaker 6>City of God, it says, this is his quote, he goes,

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<v Speaker 6>the damons, though sometimes appearing to help humans, are in

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<v Speaker 6>fact malicious, eating souls away from salvation. But they appear

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<v Speaker 6>to be doing good, you know. Yes, sometimes they're good,

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes they're bad. This is the whole idea of the

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<v Speaker 6>Gin by the way as well, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 6>what we're talking about, the damon and the genius. They're

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<v Speaker 6>always interconnected, which we're going to do a whole episode

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<v Speaker 6>on the genius and the genie and the gin in

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<v Speaker 6>that whole correlation right there as well. But it's all

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the same thing. Like, it's not talking about

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<v Speaker 6>your brain and your egoic mind or your human mind

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<v Speaker 6>or anything like that. It's the quiet mind that speaks

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people call that your higher self or your your

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<v Speaker 6>they're saying that, like, well, I mean, they are in

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<v Speaker 6>fact malicious and they need you away from salvation, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Clearly clearly so anything not of God basically is yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>get in line, you know kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>But Augustine's writing became foundational for Western Christian doctrine, and

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<v Speaker 6>he fully codified the idea that damon's equals demons. So

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<v Speaker 6>it was around this time it was nobody was questioning

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<v Speaker 6>it anymore. Like people just kind of you know, forgot,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, which you know, several hundred years have have

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<v Speaker 6>especially during the Crusades, and everybody's dying that's not going

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<v Speaker 6>along to get along with you know, emperors and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it's unfortunate. So this was the final blow

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<v Speaker 6>to the original meaning. From here on in the Latin

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<v Speaker 6>speaking church, deamonium equals evil, spirit, genius, damon and guide

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<v Speaker 6>equal heretical or dangerous to follow.

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<v Speaker 5>A guide even yep, you know, like, so when when

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<v Speaker 5>are you supposed to know if God's talking to you?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, that's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 6>What's the Well, first of all, you have to be religious,

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<v Speaker 6>because if you're not religious, then surely God wouldn't give

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<v Speaker 6>you a message.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm open to it to begin.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, I've talked, you know, to numerous amounts

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<v Speaker 6>of Christians about my whole eloheem story and they're like,

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<v Speaker 6>oh were you are you Christian? No, well that must

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<v Speaker 6>have been a demon then sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>You were full dude, you were tricked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, all right, so yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, here

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<v Speaker 6>we go. So by the Middle Ages from five hundred

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<v Speaker 6>to fifteen hundred AD, the word demon in English developed

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<v Speaker 6>from Old French demon, which came from Latin damonium, which

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<v Speaker 6>originally came from the Greek daemon. But by this time

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<v Speaker 6>all association with the original Greek meaning was gone. Demon

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<v Speaker 6>meant hellish, possessive and satanic. So just to give a

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<v Speaker 6>little summary here about you know, the the years of

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<v Speaker 6>the breakdown about how it all happened. You have the

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<v Speaker 6>pre first century CE, So let's just say first century BC, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Damon equals divine guy, enter genius and U spirit. Move

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<v Speaker 6>toward the first and second sect. First and second century

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<v Speaker 6>AD daemonian used in Christian texts to describe evil spirits.

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<v Speaker 6>Move forward to the second and third century Church fathers

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<v Speaker 6>and fifth century CE you have Augustine cements daemon equals

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<v Speaker 6>demon in Church doctrine, and then of course by the

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<v Speaker 6>Middle Ages, the word demon enters English with purely negative meaning.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow. I mean it's pretty genius, you know, to just

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<v Speaker 5>kinda to that kind of magic and make the real

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<v Speaker 5>meaning of what it is just kind of go.

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<v Speaker 6>Away, like completely genius. I think you picked the exact

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<v Speaker 6>right word there.

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<v Speaker 5>So I never even really heard of damon or anything

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<v Speaker 5>like that. I know of demon, and I know that

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<v Speaker 5>it has a very negative connotation in all this, but

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<v Speaker 5>never really knew anything about the damon, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>where it came from. Dude, so this is just evidence.

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<v Speaker 6>Ain't too many pagans around to tell the story anymore,

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<v Speaker 6>that's true, you know, So why it all matters? This

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't just a linguistic evolution. It was a spiritual inversion.

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<v Speaker 6>The sacred voice within the damon became a threat to

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<v Speaker 6>religious control because if people could hear divine truth within themselves,

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<v Speaker 6>they wouldn't need a priest to tell them who they

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<v Speaker 6>were or what God wanted. The inner voice that once

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<v Speaker 6>led Socrates and uplifted Plato became under the church the

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<v Speaker 6>whisper of Satan.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, dude, of course, you know you need some

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<v Speaker 5>type of higher authority to help you out, or to

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<v Speaker 5>guide you, or to you know, assist. You know, you

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<v Speaker 5>just can't do that by yourself. You're just an unclean rag.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you know?

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<v Speaker 6>You're a sinner. You were born a sinner. You're born

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<v Speaker 6>into sin. Had no chance think about that, dude, You're

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<v Speaker 6>born into sin? Like, how, my god, what does that

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<v Speaker 6>got to do to the psyche for people to actually

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<v Speaker 6>accept that? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, all you're gonna do is just except the

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<v Speaker 5>Lord is our savior. Man, You'll be good. Don't even trip.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, then you'd be saved. So anyhow, what if

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<v Speaker 6>the inner voice you sometimes hear that quiet poll that's

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<v Speaker 6>strange knowing, isn't your imagination at all. What if it's

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<v Speaker 6>a divine spirit one that has been guiding your soul

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<v Speaker 6>since before you were born. This episode that we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to be getting into is not necessarily about religion. We

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<v Speaker 6>kind of want to just go through the etymology there first,

421
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<v Speaker 6>but now we're going to get into what it actually means,

422
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<v Speaker 6>how people were using it, some quotes by people who

423
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<v Speaker 6>were actually in touch with it. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 6>an all inclusive, daimonic episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh alrighty take us there.

426
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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So yeah, so it's not about religion, it's about

427
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<v Speaker 6>personal nosis.

428
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<v Speaker 4>The episode, this episode.

429
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<v Speaker 6>Will be an initiation into rediscovering the divine intelligence that's

430
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<v Speaker 6>been with you all along.

431
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<v Speaker 4>You're damon, so what is a damon? Damon?

432
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<v Speaker 6>I'm just gonna keep on going back and forth with it,

433
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<v Speaker 6>and to be honest, because if I'm wrong, I'm only

434
00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:10.279
<v Speaker 6>half wrong, you know.

435
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 5>Exactly right. It's letting everybody know that we don't know

436
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<v Speaker 5>what we're talking about.

437
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<v Speaker 4>You know, we say it in the beginning though I

438
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<v Speaker 4>don't know what the fu you know.

439
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<v Speaker 6>So. The word daemon has deep roots in Greek cosmology.

440
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<v Speaker 6>It didn't mean evil spirit. It referred to a divine intermediary,

441
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<v Speaker 6>a spiritual intelligence that lives within or around each person.

442
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.680
<v Speaker 6>These beings weren't worshiped like Olympian gods, but were seen

443
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<v Speaker 6>as personal guides connected to fate, genius, and divine will.

444
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<v Speaker 6>To the Greeks, every soul had a damon, a kind

445
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:47.279
<v Speaker 6>of celestial twin or guardian genius that knew what your

446
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.319
<v Speaker 6>soul's purpose was. It wasn't some outside entity trying.

447
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:51.759
<v Speaker 4>To control you.

448
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<v Speaker 6>It was you, just more whole, more awake, more divine.

449
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<v Speaker 6>The daemon represented the soul's memory of heaven was spring,

450
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<v Speaker 6>reminders and moments of clarity, inspiration, or danger. Modern mystics

451
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<v Speaker 6>and psychologists have begun reclaiming this idea. The damon is

452
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<v Speaker 6>your future self speaking back through time. It's the compass

453
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<v Speaker 6>pointing toward your destiny. But if you ignore it, you

454
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<v Speaker 6>may feel lost, restless, or even cursed. Not because it

455
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<v Speaker 6>punishes you, but because you've strayed away from your own

456
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 6>divine alignment. So, and this might be why people are

457
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 6>getting deja vu if you really think about that.

458
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<v Speaker 5>Mmmm, yeah, ude. And what I'm thinking about is is

459
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<v Speaker 5>that you know, we always know, even though we might

460
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<v Speaker 5>not always be good or do good things, you know,

461
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<v Speaker 5>but I feel like we know the difference. We know

462
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<v Speaker 5>what's good regardless of what you would belief system you follow.

463
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<v Speaker 5>It's just kind of ingrained. We know what's what's right

464
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<v Speaker 5>from wrong.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

466
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I don't need a book telling me that

467
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 6>thou shalt not kill, you know, I kind of just

468
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<v Speaker 6>know not to do it, and I know that like

469
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 6>inherently it's a bad thing, you know. So uh, moving forward,

470
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<v Speaker 6>So first off, we're going to get Socrates and the damon.

471
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<v Speaker 6>So Socrates was the first and in the Western canon

472
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<v Speaker 6>to talk openly about his damon. He described it as

473
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<v Speaker 6>a voice, never loud, never commanding, that warned him when

474
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<v Speaker 6>he was about to act against his soul's calling.

475
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<v Speaker 5>Mm okay, all right, that's cool. Of course he's got

476
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:23.279
<v Speaker 5>to get into mixed, dude. He was connected, he knew

477
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 5>something was going on. Oh dude.

478
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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's who Plato learned from, was Socrates.

479
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

480
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.319
<v Speaker 6>You know, he was an understudy of Socrates there for

481
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<v Speaker 6>a while, which is what inspired him down his path.

482
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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, so he didn't worship it, but he listened always.

483
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 6>He claimed that the daemon had been with him since childhood.

484
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.720
<v Speaker 6>When he stood trial, he said it had not dissuaded him,

485
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.240
<v Speaker 6>and so he accepted his fate. This shows that even

486
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 6>death was preferable to betraying one's damon, a powerful idea

487
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 6>that personal integrity is more sacred than survival. This inner

488
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 6>voice wasn't madness or superstition. It was divine alignment. Socrates

489
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 6>didn't see himself as a prophet or a mystic, yet

490
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.759
<v Speaker 6>he trusted this whisper above all else, which suggests that

491
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 6>the damon is not some supernatural fantasy, but a real,

492
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 6>experiential part of being a human when you live consciously.

493
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 5>It's consciousness, dude, Yeah, I mean where it's derived from.

494
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, we call that a higher self nowadays, but

495
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 6>back then, just think about it, like right now, right,

496
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 6>let's say that Jesus was existing, or let's say Jesus

497
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:38.319
<v Speaker 6>just died thirty forty years ago, just hypothetically speaking, and and.

498
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 4>So and everybody.

499
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<v Speaker 6>Let's just say that everybody knew that, like your higher

500
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 6>self was a good thing. It's good to get into alignment,

501
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 6>it's good to meditate, it's good to eat healthy, it's

502
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 6>good to work out, it's good to do like very

503
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 6>conscious things. That's going to keep you kind of in

504
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.039
<v Speaker 6>this alignment, right, And let's just say that everybody called

505
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.640
<v Speaker 6>it your higher self, just you know, a little roundabout

506
00:27:58.720 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 6>type of term here.

507
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:02.880
<v Speaker 4>And then the church fathers come around, they're like.

508
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 6>Whoa your higher self? What are you fucking worshiping yourself now?

509
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 6>Which is gus, yeah, which is exactly what a lot

510
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 6>of people say. Oh, you're worshiping yourself. I don't know

511
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 6>a single fucking person that worships themselves. I mean, yeah,

512
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 6>you might, they might be a little full of their

513
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<v Speaker 6>own shit, But to.

514
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<v Speaker 5>Say that you're worshiping yourself, that's egregious. Yeah. I think

515
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 5>if you're worshiping yourself, there's never a single moment that

516
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 5>you're talking shit to yourself, you know. And I think

517
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 5>we all talk shit to ourselves more so than we

518
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 5>would talk shit to anybody exactly.

519
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 6>So it's kind of like just instead of them, and

520
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 6>instead of looking at them like they got uh, they

521
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<v Speaker 6>got one over on the word damon, just look at

522
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 6>it like they got one over on the word higher self.

523
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 6>And they turned the higher self into a negative entity

524
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 6>that only communicates with the dark side. That's essentially what

525
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 6>they did. Okay, so all right, so that was Socrates.

526
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 6>Now we're gonna get into Neil Platonism and the damon.

527
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 5>So uh.

528
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 6>Later, philosophers like Platinus and Proclus built on Plato's ideas

529
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 6>and took the damon to cosmic levels. In their view,

530
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 6>every soul descends from the divine and forgets its source.

531
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 6>The damon's job is to guide it back like uh

532
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 6>Ari ariadnes I'm terrible old people's names, but like his

533
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 6>thread through the labyrinth of incarnation. They believe that the

534
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 6>damon exists in a realm between heaven and earth and

535
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.920
<v Speaker 6>in between state, essentially acting as a translator between the

536
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 6>soul and the divine. It doesn't control the human, but

537
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 6>instead it nudges, aligns, and inspires. The damon remembers who

538
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 6>you are even when you don't, so Proclus. Proclus even

539
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 6>even taught that the damon was a mirror of your

540
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 6>perfected soul.

541
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Hmm.

542
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.400
<v Speaker 5>That's pretty cool, dude, And that's why so many of

543
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 5>the spiritual feelings or or experiences that we have had

544
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 5>feel familiar, even though you've never been there at least

545
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 5>not in this body.

546
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh dude.

547
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I mean he's literally talking about the intermediary

548
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 6>between you and Heaven.

549
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

550
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 6>That's that's all the way neoplatonic, just looking at the

551
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 6>you know, the the one emanating onto all things, right

552
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 6>and so yeah, and also think about it like this,

553
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 6>the daemon could literally be Jesus m because well, because

554
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 6>Christ is the intermediary between you and God. Nobody comes

555
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.519
<v Speaker 6>to God except through me, right, h right, So it's

556
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 6>essentially that Jesus is a damon if you really think

557
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 6>about it like that.

558
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Jez, that's gonna ruffle some feathers. Moving on, That'll be

559
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 5>the title of this episode, Us a Demon. Wait a minute,

560
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 5>what the shit, bully?

561
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, so he he taught that the daemon was

562
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 6>a mirror of your of your perfected self. The more

563
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 6>you purify your life, the more you harmonize with it.

564
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 6>In this way, working with the damon is a spiritual practice,

565
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 6>one of remembrance, realignment, and awakening to your true to

566
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 6>your true soul's contract, to your true soul's contract.

567
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, holy shit, I don't remember who it was.

568
00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it was Danny gold or I'm

569
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 5>really I can't remember, but somebody said that they met there.

570
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 5>It might not even necessarily have been their future self,

571
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 5>but it was their wiser self, like in form like

572
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 5>in front of them, And so I wonder if that

573
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 5>was their damon.

574
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Butler said it yeah.

575
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 5>Butler said, oh, that's right, that's right, yeah, dude.

576
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because he was like, yeah, it didn't look like

577
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 6>a super old version, but I knew that it was

578
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 6>like a more wise version of me.

579
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 5>Right, his connection to that divine, the connection that allows

580
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 5>him to understand his divinity, you know, I mean he

581
00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 5>met his damon. That's crazy, you know, essentially.

582
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 6>So just before we go any farther, I want to

583
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 6>get over to the chat here real quick. The White

584
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 6>Boy Wizard said, the end betwixt.

585
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's my favorite. It's my favorite.

586
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 6>Kara said, good evening, mysterious weirdos and happy New Moon

587
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 6>and cancer.

588
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 5>It's been a while. Oh all right, Caro, what's up, dude?

589
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 6>And Taylor said, oh my god, you got to watch

590
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 6>his Dark materials. Bro. Ever since they brought this up,

591
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 6>Nick has been like, I fucking told you years and

592
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 6>years ago, you need to watch his Dark materials. I'm like,

593
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 6>I know, Nick, I'm sorry, I've been. I think I

594
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 6>tried watching one episode, but you know what, I gotta

595
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 6>stick through it. I give up way too easy on

596
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 6>shows that you know whatever. But I mean, he keeps

597
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 6>on saying it. And look, I mean, you know, we

598
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.559
<v Speaker 6>we all enjoy the oay, and we all enjoy like

599
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 6>Rick and Morty and Black Mirror and all these kinds

600
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 6>of things that it's like, you know, our group knows

601
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 6>what's up, you know, all of the one here. If

602
00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 6>there's ever a show or a tea or like a

603
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.400
<v Speaker 6>movie or something like that that y'all recommend that kind

604
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 6>of goes in line with meta mysteries all encompassing, then yeah,

605
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.599
<v Speaker 6>we're we're definitely gonna give it a little look see

606
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:10.319
<v Speaker 6>at the bare middle.

607
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, dude, I've been I've been having a hard

608
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 5>time finding movies and finding things because I'm always looking

609
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 5>for something deep, something I don't know, something more foundational

610
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 5>and true or or just real, you know what I mean.

611
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 5>And whenever I go and look at the movies, so

612
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, what is this shit? Dude? I don't want

613
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 5>to waste two hours watching this, you know, And don't

614
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 5>get me wrong. I will, you know, I will watch

615
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.160
<v Speaker 5>something here and there, but lately I've been really looking

616
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 5>for something like I don't know, just deep.

617
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

618
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, and so Taylor said, I'm over here, like, oh

619
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.160
<v Speaker 6>my god, Socrates makes so much sense when when thinking

620
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 6>about the Damon in the show and then said that

621
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 6>the Golden Compass is a movie version of the Show

622
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 6>Kids movie.

623
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:50.079
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

624
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 5>Wow. Okay, I haven't heard of that one yet.

625
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 4>But all right, well, I mean that's our homework. We

626
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 4>got to watch his dark.

627
00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 6>Materials, bro, thank you, thank you for that good stuff. So, yeah,

628
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<v Speaker 6>we had Neoplatonism, we had Socrates diving into it. Now

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to get to the Gnostic and Hermetic principles

630
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<v Speaker 6>and parallels rather so, the Gnostics had a similar view,

631
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 6>though with a more urgent tone and their cosmology. We

632
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 6>are divine sparks trapped in a material prison. The damon

633
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 6>is a fragment of divine memory, the part of you

634
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:27.760
<v Speaker 6>that never forgot the light. It's not just guidance, it's rescue.

635
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 6>In Hermeticism, the noose, which is more of a Neoplatonic

636
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 6>idea and Platonic idea, but Hermeticism and Platonism kind of

637
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 6>go hand in hand with a lot of things. So

638
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 6>in Hermeticism, the noose or the divine intellect, and the logos,

639
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 6>which is the divine word, serve as serve a similar

640
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 6>purpose as bridges between the mortal and the eternal. The

641
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 6>damon becomes the inner Christ, the foath or the higher Mercury.

642
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's good stuff right there.

643
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 6>Hermes, Hermes, remember Hermi Streusman justus was, you know, standing

644
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 6>for mercury, which was the messenger between you and the One.

645
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 6>So the damon literally is your connection to the One,

646
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 6>to the All, to God, to the universe whatever, right,

647
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 6>m hm. Both traditions emphasize gnosis, which is inner knowing.

648
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 6>You don't need external profits. When you're connected to your damon,

649
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 6>you have direct access to the divine stream. This made

650
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 6>these traditions threatening to religious institutions, which is likely why

651
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 6>the damon was literally demonized.

652
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 5>So I wonder what the threat is though. Is it

653
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 5>just a power thing like usual, just they don't want

654
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 5>us to have that kind of power because only they

655
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 5>can have that power, you know, that authority. Yeah, it's

656
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 5>kind of like.

657
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 6>This is going to sound bad, but it's kind of like, uh,

658
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 6>like uh, what is it called the beauty and the

659
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 6>Beast syndrome? I can never remember that term. Oh fuck,

660
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 6>somebody's gonna remember it anyway. It's essentially like that, you know,

661
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 6>the the syndrome, Stockholm syndrome.

662
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's it.

663
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 6>But it's essentially like, if you're the husband, will will

664
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 6>belittle the wife so much, either you know, physical, emotional, sexual, whatever,

665
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.559
<v Speaker 6>so much, and the wife literally starts believing that she's

666
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 6>lower in dirt, lower than dirt. And because look, you're

667
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 6>you're if you full on buy into why your husband

668
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 6>is disciplining you in certain kinds of ways, then surely

669
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 6>your husband wouldn't just be doing this for no reason,

670
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 6>like you need it, you know what I mean. And

671
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 6>so that's the Stockholm syndrome behind it. And I think

672
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 6>that what essentially what religious and not even just Christianity,

673
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 6>but a lot of religions are trying to teach is

674
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 6>basically Stockholm syndrome. You know, like you're literally it says

675
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 6>in the Bible that God sees you as unclean rags. Okay,

676
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 6>you're you're born a center, you're unclean rags, and you're

677
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 6>ever You're going to go straight to hell unless you

678
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 6>accept Jesus as your savior. If that's not Stockholm syndrome,

679
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what is right. Because if you know

680
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 6>that you have that inner spark inside of you, that damon,

681
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 6>that higher self, that whatever that is, that nosis, then

682
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna be like, no, get out of here with that.

683
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 6>But the amount of Stockholm syndrome and the amount of

684
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 6>like I mean, just hammering is you know. Unfortunately, that's

685
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 6>just I in my belief, I believe that that's what happened.

686
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna say that that's what is happened. I

687
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 4>don't know what.

688
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but my my damon says that that's correct.

689
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 5>Right, makes sense.

690
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 4>To Yeah, So where were we? All right?

691
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 6>So uh now we're gonna get to Carl Jung and

692
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 6>what he talked about with the damon so YOUNGI. In

693
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 6>psychology and the damon, Carl Jung wasn't afraid to borrow

694
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 6>from the old world. He saw the damon as a

695
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 6>symbol of the self, the totality of the conscious and

696
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 6>unconscious mind. Carl Jung called it the inner guide that

697
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 6>services during shadow work, dreams, and spiritual crisises. The damon

698
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 6>in young In YOUNGI in terms appears as synchronicities, symbolic dreams,

699
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 6>or even archetypes in taro or in myth. He encouraged

700
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 6>people to dialogue with it, like in active imagination, where

701
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 6>you converse with parts of your psyche. The Damon might

702
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 6>show up as a wise old man, a trickster, or

703
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 6>even your future self to young ignoring your daemon led

704
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 6>to a life of neurosis and self sabotage. Listening to it,

705
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 6>on the other hand, was the path of individuation, the

706
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:44.840
<v Speaker 6>mystical union of ego and the soul. In this way,

707
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 6>psychology becomes modern day alchemy, and the Damon is your

708
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:50.599
<v Speaker 6>philosopher's stone.

709
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 5>Hmm, okay, that energenious man, All right.

710
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah dude.

711
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 5>So you see how it's on one right now, right, yeah, yeah, dude.

712
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.519
<v Speaker 5>And the way and thinking lately as far as like

713
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 5>consciousness and the way our brain works, Like I understand

714
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.440
<v Speaker 5>that our brain is very complex and it's it's just

715
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 5>an amazing machine. But I'm trying to understand that that

716
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 5>connection when it comes to our mind and the spirit.

717
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, Carl Jung sounds like he's likes to talk

718
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 5>about our own mind and the brain and the subconscious

719
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 5>and everything else. But maybe that's where the connection is.

720
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 5>I guess, you know. That's what I've been trying to

721
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 5>figure out for myself. Really, well, is it just mind

722
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 5>or is it something that we just don't fully understand

723
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 5>that connects our mind to the divine?

724
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.159
<v Speaker 4>No, no, it's not even mind.

725
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 6>Mind is like lesser, so this would be your So

726
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 6>your higher self is not your mind, you know what

727
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 6>I mean, like.

728
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.280
<v Speaker 5>Something in the conscious and the subconscious.

729
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:52.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, there you go.

730
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, the conscious mind is the mind that everybody

731
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 6>knows and everybody talks about. Whenever you say the mind,

732
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 6>you're talking about the conscious mind, right, the subconscious mind

733
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 6>is you know. Even Dolores Cannon she used to say, look,

734
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 6>I yeah, I mean, you know, she she started saying

735
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Speaker 6>that these messages were coming through your subconscious mind. But

736
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 6>she goes, that's not exactly the term that I'm looking for.

737
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 6>She just didn't know what else to call it. And

738
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 6>then she started talking about the higher self. So you

739
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 6>know it it converted from subconscious to the higher self.

740
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.519
<v Speaker 6>Your subconscious is is more of kind of like your

741
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 6>like you're programming if you really think about it like that.

742
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, all right, yeah, I mean because I understood

743
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 5>it like your your sub at least, this is how

744
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 5>I understood your Your subconscious is the thing that notices everything,

745
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 5>notices things that your conscious mind doesn't notice. And so

746
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 5>that's why symbols and and you know, when you go

747
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.480
<v Speaker 5>into a past life progression, you'll get a certain experience

748
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 5>depending on what your subconscious has seen and understands, you

749
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, the part of your mind that

750
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 5>that just gives you the messages, you know. And so

751
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.320
<v Speaker 5>it's like I I'm like stuck in the middle of

752
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.599
<v Speaker 5>is it just your mind or is it? Is it

753
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 5>something more?

754
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>You know?

755
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it kind of reminds me of like in this

756
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 6>is kind of like the image I'm getting in my

757
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:11.719
<v Speaker 6>mind is kind of like a if you if you

758
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:16.039
<v Speaker 6>put it in like neoplatonic terms, so you have the One,

759
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 6>then the noos than the world soul, and then uh,

760
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 6>the physical world, you know, and that's that's the one

761
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 6>that's emanating on everything, and every single world or every

762
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 6>single emanation is kind of like farther away from God

763
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 6>but still connected, right, or farther away from the One

764
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:34.400
<v Speaker 6>but still connected. I almost look at it like this,

765
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 6>like if we're talking about strictly you and your mind

766
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.039
<v Speaker 6>and your subconscious and your conscious mind, and uh, you

767
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 6>want to also include the daemon. Let's just say the

768
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 6>damon is your spirit. I mean essentially, that's that's what

769
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 6>it would be called. If you're if you're trying to

770
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 6>group it into like father, son and holy spirit, it

771
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 6>would be the spirit, right, and so you know, if

772
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 6>you look at it so essentially, the physical world would

773
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:03.880
<v Speaker 6>be your physical body, let's just say that, and the

774
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 6>world soul would be your conscious mind. The noose would

775
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 6>be your subconsciousness subconscious I guess, and maybe your your

776
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 6>gaming would be so closely related to the one or

777
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 6>so closely I don't know. Maybe I said that wrong,

778
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 6>but either way, it's it's it all seems that like

779
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 6>you have so many different modalities of what you call yourself.

780
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 6>You have you know, your mind, your subconscious, your your

781
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 6>conscious mind, your you know, your your spirit so to say,

782
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 6>and your physical body. So essentially look at yourself like

783
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 6>you have literally four yous, right, and and some some

784
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:44.880
<v Speaker 6>people like you know, every so often we like to

785
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 6>mess up from time to time and and aid a

786
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 6>cheeseburger or have you know, sex when we shouldn't be

787
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 6>with this person or that person or whatever, you know,

788
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 6>and that's more of like the physical you know, like

789
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 6>that's that's used to coming to your animalistic mind in

790
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 6>a sense. And then you know, when you're sitting in meditation,

791
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 6>maybe that is right when because that's what I was

792
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 6>saying that, you know, the the the daemon isn't It

793
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 6>doesn't scream at you, It doesn't even doesn't even say

794
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 6>anything loudly to you.

795
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 4>It's more of the whisper.

796
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 6>And if you think of that whisper, you know, that

797
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 6>divine consciousness of the daemon, then that would probably only

798
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 6>happen like within meditation, during the dreaming, because that's the

799
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 6>only time where you shut the fuck up for a

800
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 6>little bit, you know.

801
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, And I guess when it comes to your mind,

802
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 5>I guess we can talk about awareness, you know, because

803
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 5>I've had time where I feel like I'm not seeing

804
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 5>synchronicities as often, you know, maybe here and there, but

805
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 5>definitely not as much as I have experienced in the past.

806
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 5>And so when it comes to our mind, that's where

807
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 5>the disconnect is. It's because it's just my my my

808
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 5>level of awareness to it, you know what I mean.

809
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 5>But the the ener genius or the you know, the

810
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 5>damon is always there, you know, trying to show me things,

811
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 5>but I'm just not paying attention. And so that's the

812
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 5>part that gets in the way.

813
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 4>I guess, Well, and that's what what was that Socrates?

814
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 6>That was basically just like, look, I'm not going to

815
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 6>go against my damon, Like my damon didn't do anything wrong, right,

816
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 6>and so I'm not like I'll die before I go

817
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 6>against that. And that's just your your soul's connection, you know,

818
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 6>Jesus dying on the cross. That's essentially what that is

819
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.920
<v Speaker 6>is that he was like, you know, my damon or

820
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 6>God if you want to put it that way, and

821
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 6>you could probably even you know, interchangeably say God. In

822
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 6>a sense, it's your connection. It's your you know, your

823
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 6>your cell phone to God or something like that, you

824
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 6>know what I mean.

825
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, well you know how it said that the

826
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 5>damon was kind of neutral, you know what I'm saying.

827
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 5>I feel like there's times where, and I'm sure everyone

828
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 5>has experienced this where you kind of talk down to

829
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 5>yourself and you're kind of saying to yourself like, ah,

830
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 5>you're a piece of shit, because you know you're not

831
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.760
<v Speaker 5>doing as much as you should, or maybe you did

832
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 5>eat that cheeseburger and you're just kind of like talking

833
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 5>shit to yourself. That can't beat your damon.

834
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Right, No, no, not at all.

835
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't think I don't think so anyway, not according

836
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.239
<v Speaker 6>to this, And that was only us. That was only

837
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 6>one person's view calling it neutral. By the way, that

838
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 6>was let's see, uh in Roman culture under figures like

839
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:18.360
<v Speaker 6>Cicero and Seneca, So in Latin it says it's still

840
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 6>carried mostly positive or neutral connotations. So okay, okay, there's that.

841
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.360
<v Speaker 6>So anyway, let's get back to it over here. So

842
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.920
<v Speaker 6>now we're going to get into the damon equalling the

843
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 6>higher self. So this is the golden thread weaving through

844
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 6>it all. Your damon is not something else. It is you,

845
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.639
<v Speaker 6>stripped of illusion. It's the version of you that already

846
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 6>remembers the mission, already forgives the past, and already loves

847
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.280
<v Speaker 6>the future. It's your soul's compass. When you're aligned, it

848
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 6>feels like flow, like deja vus, like I was meant

849
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 6>to be here. When you ignore it, it feels like resistance,

850
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 6>chaos and repeating loops of failure. You'll hear it in

851
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 6>your gut your dreams or in strange synchronicities that seem

852
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 6>to tug at your awareness. The damon may also be

853
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 6>your genius, as the Romans called it, the spark of

854
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 6>brilliance in art, invention or epiphany. When you create something

855
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 6>that feels like it came from a deeper place, that's

856
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 6>your damon showing up. You're not being possessed, you're being revealed.

857
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 5>Wow. So even those people that don't like to take

858
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 5>credit for their music that they wrote or you know,

859
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 5>a script that they wrote, it's like, oh, it just

860
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 5>it just came to me. You know that wasn't me.

861
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.519
<v Speaker 5>Oh maybe it was you know, just on a deeper

862
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 5>level that you're not aware of.

863
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 6>And look, if you don't want to align yourself with this,

864
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 6>and you want to look at your higher self.

865
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 4>And this is what a lot of people do.

866
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 6>Like you think about like Electro Nick like his guides

867
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 6>are the Pleaadians, Like, there's no way that could be him.

868
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it is.

869
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 6>Maybe he just forgot that that was him or something

870
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 6>along those lines. But you know, and some people will say, well,

871
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking to you know, my dead grandmother or you know,

872
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:03.679
<v Speaker 6>this was re Yukta schwar right, like from Autobiography of

873
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 6>a Yogi and so and and maybe you want to

874
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 6>just paint it as a different kind of figure or

875
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:12.880
<v Speaker 6>who was it, damn the roundtable guy that said we

876
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 6>need to get every all those characters in our mind.

877
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, Oh my god, dude, it's been so long.

878
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 5>We need to get him back. Man, it's just ah fuck,

879
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 5>such a great really bad. I feel really bad right now.

880
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 5>I always can remember that guy's name.

881
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 4>It starts with the N.

882
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 5>I think it'll Nigel parent Nigel. So that's all I needed, dude,

883
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 5>That's all I needed.

884
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, that's basically what he was saying, is like,

885
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, you get the roundtable of the people in

886
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 6>your mind, do you want to have conversations with the

887
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 6>the essentially versions of your higher self from different perspectives?

888
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.800
<v Speaker 6>And I mean maybe at that point you have five

889
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 6>damons then.

890
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 5>Right, I mean, because they would all be connected anyways,

891
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 5>probably if we're all one on high level.

892
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Right.

893
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 6>So, so yeah, that's the damon as the higher self.

894
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 6>Now we're going to go to Damon versus demon the

895
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 6>great inversion. So how did something so sacred become so feared?

896
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 6>It all changed with the Christianization of the Roman Empire.

897
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 6>Pagan's spiritual concepts like daemons were seen as competitors to

898
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 6>the Church's control over the soul, so they were demonized.

899
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 4>Literally.

900
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 6>Augustine and others argued that all quote unquote pagan spirits

901
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 6>were demons in disguise, tricksters luring people away from Christ.

902
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 6>The daemon became a threat, even though it was originally

903
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 6>a guide. This inversion wasn't accidental. It ensured that people

904
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:42.000
<v Speaker 6>would stop trusting their inner compass and instead rely on

905
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 6>church authority. Over time, daemon became demon and all positive

906
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 6>spiritual nuance was erased. This fear is still deeply embedded

907
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 6>in Western culture. Many people think any inner voice is

908
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:58.519
<v Speaker 6>a temptation, when in fact it might just be their salvation.

909
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 5>Something you need to hear. Man, shit, that's your guide.

910
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 5>And look, I'm telling you, man, you start to if

911
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 5>you start to really dwell on oh maybe maybe I

912
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 5>have a demon. You know, you really start to dwell

913
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.719
<v Speaker 5>on that, you you will manifest that. I think you

914
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 5>can cause a lot of anxiety and stress. And then

915
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 5>before you know it, man, you're causing disease and you're sick,

916
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 5>and you know what, I mean, and then you're possessed

917
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 5>basically at that point.

918
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

919
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.159
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, our thoughts can literally take on

920
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 6>a mind of their own, and you let that snowball

921
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 6>effect happen. By the end of the day, you got

922
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 6>a fucking you know, a super huge boulder that is

923
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 6>just on your back.

924
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 5>But the good news is is you can exercise that

925
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 5>demon yourself, you know, and get rid of it.

926
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 6>Yes you can, Yes you can. So uh so, how

927
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:46.960
<v Speaker 6>to work.

928
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.840
<v Speaker 4>With your damon? We're going to get right into that now, Okay.

929
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.880
<v Speaker 6>So to work with your damon, you must first make

930
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 6>space for it. This means silence, reflection, shadow work. The

931
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 6>demon doesn't scream, It whispers, and if you're always distracted

932
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 6>or numbing it out, you'll never hear it. Start by

933
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 6>asking this, what part of me feels ancient? What part

934
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 6>of me already knows the answer? This is not about

935
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 6>rational thinking. It's about resonance practices like dream journaling, active imagination,

936
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.960
<v Speaker 6>tarot or oracle work, deep meditation, or creative flow states

937
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 6>like in music, art writing, whatever your artistic thing is,

938
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 6>to where you can get in that flow state. These

939
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 6>are all open portals for your damon to emerge. Treat

940
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 6>it like a sacred ally.

941
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Give it a name.

942
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 4>If one arises, let it.

943
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 6>Show you where you've betrayed yourself, not to punish, but

944
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 6>to liberate. When the damon is integrated, you no longer

945
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 6>need to ask anyone else who you are. You know,

946
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 6>you remember and you return.

947
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 5>M Dude, when you're in that creative flow, dude, and

948
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 5>you're doing that thing that that you're I mean, call

949
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 5>it your gift if it's easy for you to do

950
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:03.960
<v Speaker 5>for no reason at all. Of course, maybe you practiced

951
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 5>at it or what have you. But when when you're

952
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 5>in the zone, dude, and your all of your awareness

953
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 5>is on that one thing, man, So it's so nice.

954
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 5>It's a peaceful place, man, it's your happy place.

955
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh dude, when you fully commit to something and you

956
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 6>know nothing in the world, like literally nothing else in

957
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 6>the world is happening outside of the bubble of whatever

958
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 6>you got going on right there with you is going

959
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.840
<v Speaker 6>on in the treehouse, oh dude. Like that's yeah, you're

960
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 6>narrowing in, you know what I mean. And that's the

961
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:36.880
<v Speaker 6>flow state, because.

962
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 5>That's the flame of the candle, dude, exactly too.

963
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and so that's what you know people will say

964
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 6>is that, you know, the only the present moment matters.

965
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 6>There's no such thing as the past, there's no such

966
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 6>thing as the future. And if you can finally convince

967
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.480
<v Speaker 6>yourself of that, that's essentially what's going on in the

968
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.440
<v Speaker 6>flow state. You're not worried about what's going on in

969
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 6>the past, You're not worried about what's going on in

970
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:56.440
<v Speaker 6>the future.

971
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 5>You're not even worried about what's going about time in general.

972
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 6>Dude, you're not worried about what's going on in the

973
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.119
<v Speaker 6>other room, you know what I mean? Like, you're so

974
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 6>into that flow state, and that's what they're saying that

975
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 6>that's where you know, that flow state is the damon Essentially.

976
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 5>That's where it's time to start having that conversation, you know,

977
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.000
<v Speaker 5>when you get to that quiet place.

978
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 4>I love it, dude, Yes, yes, so.

979
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

980
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 6>Demon damon's have popped up in pop culture, as as

981
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 6>many people have told us here his in his dark materials,

982
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 6>people's souls live outside them in the form of talking

983
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 6>animal damons.

984
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

985
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.519
<v Speaker 6>In The Exorcist, the fear of possession is the shadow

986
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 6>inversion of that of that same archetype, suggesting how closely

987
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 6>linked guidance and fear. Truly are movies like Donnie Darko

988
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 6>Fight Club shout out one of the best movies of

989
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.320
<v Speaker 6>all time, and even the Oa gets a shout out

990
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 6>in this one. Oh really show characters confronting forces that

991
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 6>seem like their other but are really inner aspects uh

992
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:02.199
<v Speaker 6>Damons in disguise. These stories show us what happens when

993
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:06.119
<v Speaker 6>we suppress or engage that inner guide. Even superheroes often

994
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 6>fit this mold Spider Man Spidery Sense, Luke Skywalker's Jedi intuition.

995
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.559
<v Speaker 6>These are all echoes of the damon idea, buried under

996
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 6>layers of fiction. Our modern myths still remember even when

997
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 6>we forget.

998
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:27.199
<v Speaker 5>That's other creatives tapping into that divine force if you will,

999
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 5>you know, and just kind of putting it into their

1000
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 5>art because it's there.

1001
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.519
<v Speaker 6>Dude, Yeah, well they pulled force, they got into that

1002
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 6>flow state, you know.

1003
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:35.519
<v Speaker 5>That's right, that's right.

1004
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:41.320
<v Speaker 6>So now we're going to get into Alan Watts of course,

1005
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 6>had to get up in this conversation. His quote is

1006
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:48.079
<v Speaker 6>you don't come into this world, you come out of it,

1007
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:49.679
<v Speaker 6>like away from the ocean.

1008
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.239
<v Speaker 4>You're not a stranger here.

1009
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, we're gonna use we're gonna use this idea

1010
00:53:56.039 --> 00:54:00.159
<v Speaker 6>essentially kind of building off of this to show everybody

1011
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 6>that we are not separate from divinity, in that the

1012
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 6>damon is an echo of our true origin. So what

1013
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 6>is a damon? According to Carl Jung, this is his

1014
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 6>one of his quotes. In each of us, there is

1015
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.960
<v Speaker 6>another whom that we do not know. He speaks to

1016
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 6>us in dreams and tells us how differently he sees

1017
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 6>us from the way that we see ourselves.

1018
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 5>That's cool. Of course, Young was on a day.

1019
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 6>Of course, another quote from Alan Watts to go out

1020
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 6>of your mind once a day is tremendously important because

1021
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 6>going out of your mind you come to you come

1022
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 6>to your senses, or because by going out of mind

1023
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 6>you come to your senses.

1024
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:43.559
<v Speaker 5>I love it.

1025
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 6>Just make sure to come back to you know it's balanced. Yeah,

1026
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.039
<v Speaker 6>I mean sometimes you get to eat, you know, I

1027
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.559
<v Speaker 6>love it. So now we're going to get to Socrates

1028
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 6>and Plato's a couple of their quotes here. So Socrates said,

1029
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 6>a divine or spiritual voice, which began when I was

1030
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 6>a child, it always forbids me to do something that

1031
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 6>I am going to do, but never commands me to

1032
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 6>do anything.

1033
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Just a little warning shot, you know, little office pop.

1034
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Plato, another quote from him, Everything daimonic is between

1035
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 6>divine and mortal. Yeah, it's that connection, bridge connection. Yeah,

1036
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 6>it's the fucking rainbow bridge all day. So this, and

1037
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 6>it even says this clearly defines the damon as a

1038
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:35.239
<v Speaker 6>bridge or intermediary, reinforcing the whole concept of the show.

1039
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 5>Really.

1040
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 6>So now we're going to get to neoplatonism. So you

1041
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.360
<v Speaker 6>got and we've talked about a couple of these names

1042
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 6>in neoplatonism, but the third one we haven't really brought

1043
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 6>up too much.

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00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 4>So you have.

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00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 6>Plato, Platinus, and then Proclus which is a new name

1046
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.039
<v Speaker 6>to me, but a couple of quotes from Platinus, who

1047
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 6>was essentially like the father of neoplatonism. So he says,

1048
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 6>we are always what we are, but we do not

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00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 6>always know it. To be a man is to be forgetful. Wow,

1050
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.559
<v Speaker 6>So to be human essentially is to be forgetful.

1051
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:13.639
<v Speaker 5>Holy shit.

1052
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 6>Another quote of Platinus, he goes, withdraw into yourself and look,

1053
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 6>and if you do not find yourself beautiful, yet act

1054
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 6>as as does the creator of a statue that is

1055
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:28.440
<v Speaker 6>to be made beautiful. He cuts away here, he smooths

1056
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 6>there until a god like splendor is revealed.

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00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Ha ha, that's cool. That is pretty cool.

1058
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 6>So it says this is practically a manual for damon work,

1059
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 6>inner refinement to match divine essence. And then of course

1060
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 6>you got a quote by Proclus. His quote is each

1061
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 6>of us has within us the god given power of

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00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 6>spiritual assent. The daemon is the link between our soul

1063
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 6>and its divine source that somehow got turned to de.

1064
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Yep, of course, dud of course.

1065
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, that's all right. We're here to write some

1066
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 4>of the wrongs.

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00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 5>That's what we're trying, man, We're trying to figure it out.

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00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:13.679
<v Speaker 6>So now we're going to get into gnostic and Hermetic parallels.

1069
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 6>So in the Hermetic text called Corpus Hermeticum, the first

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00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:22.840
<v Speaker 6>first edition, I think that says within it, within man

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00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 6>is the noose the divine reason, which can lead the

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00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 6>soul back to the divine world if purified.

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00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:34.599
<v Speaker 5>That's the news that we're constantly filling the need to contemplate.

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00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 6>Oh shit, we got a quote from something to figure out, dude. Yeah,

1075
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.480
<v Speaker 6>so we got a quote from Dolores Cannon in here.

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00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh all right, this is from her book called Between

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00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 6>Death and Life Highly highly suggests everybody read this book

1078
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 6>because it's not about between life and death.

1079
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 4>It's between death and life.

1080
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 6>So it's like, what happens once you die and what's

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00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:02.440
<v Speaker 6>the in between window of one dead before you reincarnate.

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00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 4>Or go on to the next thing? Right, right, so cool?

1083
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 6>But her quote from that book is, you are not

1084
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 6>just a body with a soul. You're a soul experiencing

1085
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.199
<v Speaker 6>through a body. The higher self is the true self,

1086
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:19.280
<v Speaker 6>and it always knows what you need to learn.

1087
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.039
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it'd be nice if it would just take over

1088
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 5>a little more often, you know, it's so so much

1089
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 5>hard work to access that sometimes.

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00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.239
<v Speaker 6>Well, and that just goes back to I mean, how

1091
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 6>often are we meditating? Because I and we do. We

1092
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 6>fucking try and hammer this one home as often as

1093
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 6>we can, and even we don't meditate as often as

1094
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 6>we should.

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00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 4>But the more you meditate and.

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00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.639
<v Speaker 6>The more you just quiet the mind and get back

1097
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.480
<v Speaker 6>to that level of awareness that knows and is guiding

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00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 6>you and is literally the spark of the whole. Right,

1099
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.079
<v Speaker 6>the more we quiet that down, I mean, maybe the

1100
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 6>more frequent the synchronicities happen, and more frequent in alignment

1101
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:02.480
<v Speaker 6>that you feel. So yeah, But anyway, her quote here,

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00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 6>so her version of the damon is the higher self

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00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:11.039
<v Speaker 6>that exists outside of time and space. Okay, so it's

1104
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:12.760
<v Speaker 6>on one dig it.

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00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 6>Nextly, we're gonna go to a couple of quotes here

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00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:20.440
<v Speaker 6>by Carl Jung. So in Young in Psychology and the Damon.

1108
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 6>A quote by Carl Jung is, the self is a

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00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:27.760
<v Speaker 6>circle whose center is the ego. The greater the circle

1110
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 6>of the greater the circle of awareness, the closer one

1111
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:36.280
<v Speaker 6>moves toward the self. Okay, so all right, so your

1112
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:39.039
<v Speaker 6>your divine self essentially is what he's talking about.

1113
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:43.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, your true self, not the self that's masked with

1114
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 5>the ego and and all the other bullshit.

1115
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 6>Exactly. Yeah, so let's see we got here. Another one

1116
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 6>from Carl Jung. The damon stands between the ego and

1117
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:59.440
<v Speaker 6>the self. If the ego refuses to hear it, the

1118
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 6>damon becomes a devil. If the ego cooperates, the damon

1119
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 6>becomes a guiding spirit.

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01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:09.519
<v Speaker 5>That makes sense, dude, That makes sense because it does

1121
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 5>feel you know, when you're when you don't feel quite

1122
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:17.199
<v Speaker 5>as connected to that divine source or or you know

1123
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 5>what I mean. You know, ultimately you're connected, but then

1124
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 5>you lose sight of that, you get distracted, and then

1125
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:26.880
<v Speaker 5>you start to see more obstacles, you know, things that

1126
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 5>are making your life harder, and so ultimately it's just

1127
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:34.440
<v Speaker 5>a a dark or or a bad entity, you know

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01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.000
<v Speaker 5>in that sense if you look at that way, I guess.

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01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 6>Oh, dude, I mean literally, what he's saying here is

1130
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:46.519
<v Speaker 6>that essentially anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, even suicide itself are

1131
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:50.840
<v Speaker 6>all the results of you not having more of a

1132
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:54.239
<v Speaker 6>connection to your own inner awareness, your own higher self,

1133
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:57.280
<v Speaker 6>your own damon and back in those terms, right, And

1134
01:00:57.760 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 6>you can see it, dude, like how many people are

1135
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 6>They're stuck in jobs they don't like, They're stuck in relationships.

1136
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 4>They don't like.

1137
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 6>They they don't have good relationships with their kids or

1138
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:11.000
<v Speaker 6>their friends or anything. They're just completely lost. Right, you

1139
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 6>think about like midlife crisises and whatnot. It's like all

1140
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.639
<v Speaker 6>of that is really transpiring because it's been so long

1141
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 6>that that like, you haven't connected with your own inner

1142
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 6>divinity that ultimately connects you to the whole of everything.

1143
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.480
<v Speaker 6>Right that you know you've lost You know that that

1144
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:33.400
<v Speaker 6>inner spark that that light has gotten so dim that

1145
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.039
<v Speaker 6>it's barely even there anymore.

1146
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 5>And those are the sort of things that I would

1147
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 5>be okay with labeling. If you must label it, I

1148
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 5>would be okay with it being a demon. You know,

1149
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 5>those negative thoughts, Those those the times you're talking shit

1150
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 5>to yourself and you're no good, Like that's a demon.

1151
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:54.159
<v Speaker 6>You know, Yeah, exactly. And so how funny is that though? That,

1152
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.880
<v Speaker 6>like when you don't listen to your damon or damon,

1153
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 6>that that's whenever a demon appears, right, I mean essentially,

1154
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 6>not literally, but essentially that's kind of what's going on.

1155
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 6>You know, like your your life is dark and gloomy.

1156
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 6>You're having thoughts.

1157
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 4>That you don't want to have.

1158
01:02:12.360 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, you're you're talking shit about yourself at literally

1159
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:18.320
<v Speaker 6>every moment of the day, burying yourself even deeper than

1160
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:20.599
<v Speaker 6>you already are with you know, in the previous moment,

1161
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 6>like that's hell, that's where demons live.

1162
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 5>And then you get addicted to that, you know what

1163
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.639
<v Speaker 5>I mean. I've heard I forget who it was that

1164
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 5>was speaking on this, but they were saying that you

1165
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.760
<v Speaker 5>get addicted to those negative emotions. Once you get that

1166
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 5>ball rolling, it's almost like it just creates this, uh,

1167
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, just this habit or this addiction to

1168
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 5>to feeling those negative emotions and and putting yourself through

1169
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.440
<v Speaker 5>that cycle, you know, and then that's why it's so

1170
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:50.639
<v Speaker 5>hard to get get rid of that. And so then

1171
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.199
<v Speaker 5>some might say you need an exorcism.

1172
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 6>Probably you know, well, you find comfort in it because

1173
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:00.679
<v Speaker 6>it's it's so the known now, it's regular, Like that's

1174
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:06.039
<v Speaker 6>that's like comforting to you the shit talking on yourself

1175
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.280
<v Speaker 6>and belittling yourself and everything like that. And you think

1176
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:12.599
<v Speaker 6>about that, like if you're in alignment and you're doing

1177
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 6>what you love doing and you love the people that

1178
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:17.840
<v Speaker 6>you're around, and every day you wake up, it's like,

1179
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.239
<v Speaker 6>oh my god, I get to do today again. How

1180
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 6>awesome is that? Right, You're not going to be in

1181
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 6>that headspace, you know, you're not going to be like

1182
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:29.119
<v Speaker 6>belittling yourself and talking shit about yourself and having anxiety

1183
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:32.280
<v Speaker 6>and having depression and feeling completely disconnected from not only

1184
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:34.480
<v Speaker 6>everybody around you, but from the source.

1185
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Of which you came, you know.

1186
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:37.199
<v Speaker 5>Dude. Yeah, man.

1187
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.000
<v Speaker 6>So one more quote here from Carl Jung. He goes,

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01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 6>the privilege of a lifetime is to become who you

1189
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:51.400
<v Speaker 6>truly are, which directly reflects damon integration and individuation.

1190
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's probably easier when you get into that flow.

1191
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:59.199
<v Speaker 5>You know, everything just starts working out good exactly.

1192
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:02.840
<v Speaker 6>So I'm uh, here we go the Daemon equalling the

1193
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.920
<v Speaker 6>Higher Self through the words of Alan Watts and Dolores Cannon.

1194
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:09.320
<v Speaker 6>So Alan Watts, and I'm bringing up all these quotes

1195
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:11.960
<v Speaker 6>to just show you that, like, look, it wasn't just

1196
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.599
<v Speaker 6>a pagan thing, and it didn't necessarily die in you know,

1197
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 6>uh by the creation of Christianity and stuff. The idea

1198
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 6>of it has still carried on. People just renamed.

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01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:27.760
<v Speaker 5>It essentially and was still very much understood by the

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01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 5>deepest of all thinkers.

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01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 6>Right, I mean, Carl Young called it the Self. Dolores

1202
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 6>Cannon called it the Higher Self. Alan Watts, you know,

1203
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:38.360
<v Speaker 6>he just said, look, you were never separate from anything,

1204
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 6>So why are you backing like you are?

1205
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 5>Right exactly, dude.

1206
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:46.119
<v Speaker 6>So Alan Watts a quote right here from his book

1207
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:50.800
<v Speaker 6>titled The Book He goes you are an aperture through

1208
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:54.480
<v Speaker 6>which the universe is looking at and exploring itself. Maybe

1209
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.559
<v Speaker 6>that's the Damon's view you. Dolores Cannon said, the higher

1210
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 6>Self is always there whispering, guiding, but it will never interfere.

1211
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 6>It waits for permission.

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01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh right.

1213
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:14.679
<v Speaker 4>There, that's it. So damon versus demon the.

1214
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.239
<v Speaker 5>I feel like, did I already read this? No?

1215
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.440
<v Speaker 6>Okay, another game. We got a bunch of quotes from

1216
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:21.800
<v Speaker 6>Carl Young and Alan Wats.

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01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:22.119
<v Speaker 5>For some reason.

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01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not I'm not complaining.

1219
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 6>So another quote from Carl Young, he goes, the reason

1220
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 6>for evil in the world is that people are not

1221
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:34.320
<v Speaker 6>able to tell their stories from his book titled Memories,

1222
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 6>Dreams and Reflections, and so essentially you can kind of

1223
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 6>use this quote to imply that the daemon was demonized

1224
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:46.039
<v Speaker 6>because its truth was suppressed. When we lose our mythic memory,

1225
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 6>we turn guides into monsters.

1226
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:53.119
<v Speaker 5>M damn fear dude.

1227
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is.

1228
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.639
<v Speaker 5>Start hearing a voice telling you some stuff, You're like, oh,

1229
01:05:57.719 --> 01:05:58.199
<v Speaker 5>what is that?

1230
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 6>I always found it very strange that anytime you talk

1231
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 6>to a religious person, you go into some kind of

1232
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.519
<v Speaker 6>religious or spiritual type of experience, it's.

1233
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Always a demon.

1234
01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1235
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:11.199
<v Speaker 4>It's never an angel, it's never God, it's.

1236
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:14.159
<v Speaker 6>Never Jesus, it's always it's always what it has to

1237
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.360
<v Speaker 6>be because you didn't ask Jesus or you didn't ask

1238
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 6>literally God, And why would you ask God? You're not

1239
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:21.559
<v Speaker 6>even a Christian, you know what I mean? Like kind

1240
01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:25.760
<v Speaker 6>of deal. So that's sad. But anyway, Alan watts a

1241
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:29.519
<v Speaker 6>quote here he goes, the devils are in the deep unconscious,

1242
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 6>not because they're evil, but because they're forgotten.

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01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 4>Okay, essentially, Yeah, the shadow work.

1244
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's it.

1245
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:43.719
<v Speaker 6>So working with your demon or Damon rather sorry, Dolorus

1246
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.119
<v Speaker 6>Cannon said, ask, That's all it takes. Just ask and

1247
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 6>be open. The higher self can only guide if you listen.

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01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 5>This this I firmly believe, dude. Wherever this is coming from,

1249
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.079
<v Speaker 5>obviously we don't know. But I did have a really

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01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 5>crazy experience in some one time where I was actually

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01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.719
<v Speaker 5>and I think we had just interviewed Cassandra and she

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01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 5>was saying about asking, asking for your guides, you know,

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01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.440
<v Speaker 5>and actually opening up that communication. And as soon as

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01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.760
<v Speaker 5>I did, within I don't know, ten seconds, dude, that

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01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:17.719
<v Speaker 5>was when I had that weird bow like it was

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01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.559
<v Speaker 5>a flash that I saw while my eyes were closed.

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01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 5>And so I mean, as soon as you open that up,

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01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:25.320
<v Speaker 5>and a lot of people and even a lot of

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01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 5>religious people would tell you. You know, you just got

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01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:30.360
<v Speaker 5>to open yourself up to it, you know. And so

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01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 5>it's the same supernatural force that everyone's talking about. It's

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01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.760
<v Speaker 5>just got different labels and different understandings, and you know,

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01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:39.960
<v Speaker 5>it's all the same thing. We're all part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what it was saying earlier that it essentially

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01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:47.519
<v Speaker 4>will feel like an epiphany moment, you know why you

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01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:48.519
<v Speaker 4>become open to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, dude, it was. It was a pretty It scared

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01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:53.800
<v Speaker 5>the shit out of me, dude. At first, it was

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01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:55.559
<v Speaker 5>just like bow like a you know when you turn

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01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:57.719
<v Speaker 5>on the light and the light bulb burns out and

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01:07:57.760 --> 01:07:59.800
<v Speaker 5>it's like like that. But it was right here in

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01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 5>my I you know. And I remember calling you the

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01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.840
<v Speaker 5>next day and I was like, dude, the craziest thing happened,

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01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.280
<v Speaker 5>you know. And yeah, I mean I know that wasn't

1275
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.360
<v Speaker 5>just my mind playing tricks on me, because I mean

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01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.280
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't asleep or anything. I was fully consciously aware,

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01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:17.039
<v Speaker 5>and this thing just happened like I was having an experience.

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01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 5>And I had another experience just recently do where it

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01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:22.399
<v Speaker 5>looked like light was coming out of my chest and

1280
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.319
<v Speaker 5>I could see it real briefly, Dude, and I was like,

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01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.760
<v Speaker 5>whoa like a bright light? Oh yeah, who knows who

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01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.720
<v Speaker 5>that is, but it's it's yeah yeah.

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01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:35.680
<v Speaker 6>Oh, by the way, remind me once we're kind of

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01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:39.640
<v Speaker 6>through reading all this to talk about my experience at

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01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:44.800
<v Speaker 6>bro Grove, oh and my psychedelic experience because yeah, wild dude.

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01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.800
<v Speaker 6>But anyway, all right, so yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, here's

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<v Speaker 6>another quote by Carl Jung. He goes, if you do

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<v Speaker 6>not speak to your damon, it will speak to you

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<v Speaker 6>as fate.

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01:08:58.079 --> 01:08:58.600
<v Speaker 5>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's a good interesting yeah. Essentially, like you know,

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01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:06.680
<v Speaker 6>people are like, oh, well, you know, that's just that's

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01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 6>that's as fatal have it, you know, like, that's just

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01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:14.279
<v Speaker 6>that's just my that's my destiny, you know, destined to

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01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.439
<v Speaker 6>be a seek like a C plus kind of human,

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01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 6>you know or whatever. And it's like, well, yeah, because

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01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 6>you're not listening to you know, the inner higher self,

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01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.239
<v Speaker 6>the damon, right m hm. And that's the one thing

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to hit on real quick. I was gonna

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01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.079
<v Speaker 6>say it earlier, but as far as when you're in

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01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:35.279
<v Speaker 6>that cycle of talking shit to yourself, and and the

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01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:37.479
<v Speaker 6>reason another reason why I think it's kind of uh,

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01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.399
<v Speaker 6>you get kind of addicted to it and you just

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01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 6>continue to do that is because you're you're basically just

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01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.880
<v Speaker 6>lowering your own bar like as low as it can go.

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01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.199
<v Speaker 6>And I mean, now everything is just it's easy because

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01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:52.159
<v Speaker 6>failure is okay, you know, and not doing well is

1309
01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:55.239
<v Speaker 6>okay because of course you know, this is this is

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<v Speaker 6>who I am.

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01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:58.960
<v Speaker 5>I suck, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah,

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01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:00.880
<v Speaker 5>so you flip it on its head and now your

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01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:03.840
<v Speaker 5>bar goes up. Now you have to rise to that occasion,

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01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, right, And we've all been there to where like

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01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:10.920
<v Speaker 6>we just kind of find solace in beating up ourselves.

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01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 6>So nobody else can say anything like Eminem did it great?

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01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.880
<v Speaker 6>And n eight mile right, it's like yes trash and

1319
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 6>yes my mom, did you know steal my car or whatever?

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01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Right?

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01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:23.680
<v Speaker 4>That's you know, and there's there's some piece in.

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01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 6>That which even even if you think about it, like

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01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:29.199
<v Speaker 6>what a wild creation or what a wild existence that

1324
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:32.800
<v Speaker 6>you can even find peace and destruction of your mind

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01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:38.399
<v Speaker 6>of yourself dude, Yeah, pretty wild. So yeah, just going

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01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 6>back to this young end quote, if you do not

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01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:42.880
<v Speaker 6>speak to your damon, it will speak to you as fate.

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<v Speaker 6>It says, this is gold, and it perfectly describes the

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01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:49.520
<v Speaker 6>inner voice becoming outer chaos when ignored.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.520
<v Speaker 6>One uh a quote right here by Proclus he goes,

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01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:58.600
<v Speaker 6>when the soul lives in harmony with its damon, it

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01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:01.279
<v Speaker 6>fulfills its divine image on earth.

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01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Damn.

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01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:04.760
<v Speaker 4>That's solid.

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01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:05.439
<v Speaker 5>I like it.

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01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:10.600
<v Speaker 6>Here we go, won by Alan Watts again, myth is

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01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 6>a mirror. We recognize the images because they all let

1339
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 6>me just reread that. We recognize the images because they

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01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:26.119
<v Speaker 6>are already within us. So yeah, pretty freaking sweet. Oh

1341
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:28.279
<v Speaker 6>here we go. Now we're going to get to it.

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01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:32.039
<v Speaker 6>So I figured, you know, since it was kind of

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01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:36.880
<v Speaker 6>literally demonized within Christianity, why don't we hear a couple

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01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:39.439
<v Speaker 6>of quotes from Jesus, possibly.

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<v Speaker 5>Referring I was gonna ask you about that, but I

1346
01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:42.880
<v Speaker 5>didn't know if you had anything loaded up for that.

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01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 6>Jesus on the inner guide the damon as christ consciousness,

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01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.880
<v Speaker 6>of course, yep, okay. So in Luke chapter seventeen, verses

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01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:56.680
<v Speaker 6>twenty through twenty one, it says, the Kingdom of God

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01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:01.079
<v Speaker 6>cometh not with observation, neither shall they say look here

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01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:04.880
<v Speaker 6>or look there, for behold, the Kingdom of God is

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01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:05.399
<v Speaker 6>within you.

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01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:07.800
<v Speaker 4>That's a Jesus quote.

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01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:11.760
<v Speaker 6>So the interpretation of it is that this is one

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01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:16.039
<v Speaker 6>of Jesus's clearest affirmations that divine truth is not external,

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01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:21.600
<v Speaker 6>it is internal. The kingdom within is is essentially like

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01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:25.840
<v Speaker 6>what and what to the damon your divine core guiding

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01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.000
<v Speaker 6>you back to God.

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<v Speaker 5>Makes sense, dude, as far as you know, you can't

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01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.600
<v Speaker 5>really look at any of this with a logical mind,

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01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 5>you know. And that's one thing that I hear a

1362
01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:38.279
<v Speaker 5>lot is you know, well, you can't think about it,

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01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, because I'll ask questions to people that are religious,

1364
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:44.119
<v Speaker 5>and the same answer that I get is like, you

1365
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 5>can't think about it logically, you know. And so it

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01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 5>makes sense that everybody kind of has their own their

1367
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.600
<v Speaker 5>own way of doing things and understanding things through their

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01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 5>experiences and what have you. You know what I mean,

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01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.279
<v Speaker 5>if if you try to explain any of that logically,

1370
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:03.079
<v Speaker 5>you're not really gonna You're not You're never gonna fully understand.

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01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:06.720
<v Speaker 6>And there's logical ways of looking at this, you know

1372
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.800
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying, Like I don't know. I mean, that's

1373
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.319
<v Speaker 6>a whole other kind of mind that you got to

1374
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:17.239
<v Speaker 6>get into to like blindly follow and blindly believe don't

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01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:20.000
<v Speaker 6>ask any questions, just trust the plan kind of thing.

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01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:22.039
<v Speaker 6>I've never been one of those kind of people that

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01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 6>just goes along to get along, Like you know, We've

1378
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.520
<v Speaker 6>always been kind of the outcast that like asks questions

1379
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:32.239
<v Speaker 6>and and that's you know, that's obviously like why even

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01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:34.000
<v Speaker 6>a lot of the one are here because we ask

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01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:38.760
<v Speaker 6>questions were we're intuitive, we're in touch with whatever that

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01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 6>is within us that whenever we hear something to just

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01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.960
<v Speaker 6>follow blindly, we're like why, like let me understand why,

1384
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:49.359
<v Speaker 6>Like I need to understand why this works or why

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01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:50.880
<v Speaker 6>you're saying to do this kind.

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01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 5>Of thing, right right, well, I mean you're gonna ask

1387
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.079
<v Speaker 5>those questions and try to wonder. When someone comes up

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01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:57.560
<v Speaker 5>to you and it's like hey, you know, just let

1389
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.319
<v Speaker 5>you know you're gonna go to hell, you know, it's like, right, well,

1390
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.880
<v Speaker 5>let me figure out why you think this and understand

1391
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:04.720
<v Speaker 5>it from myself exactly.

1392
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.439
<v Speaker 6>So then we got another one from John chapter fourteen,

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01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:11.560
<v Speaker 6>verse twenty six. This is another Jesus quote that says,

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<v Speaker 6>but the comforter, which is the holy ghost from the Father,

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01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 6>will send in my name. He shall teach you all

1396
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:22.079
<v Speaker 6>things and bring all things to your remembrance.

1397
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:28.520
<v Speaker 5>Your remembrance you already know. You just gotta recognize, recognize

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01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.880
<v Speaker 5>Christ consciousness right here. What you want to call it,

1399
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.800
<v Speaker 5>Christ consciousness, your higher self, You're damon whatever. Everybody's got

1400
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:38.560
<v Speaker 5>a name, you are exactly. So the interpretation is is

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01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:41.720
<v Speaker 5>that the Holy Spirit here acts as an inner teacher,

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01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:46.520
<v Speaker 5>a function that is indistinguishable from that of the damon

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01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 5>or higher self. It's not outside help. It reminds you

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01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 5>of truth that you already carry. And this is why

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01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 5>when we you know, you have an experience and you

1406
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.279
<v Speaker 5>slightly remove the veil, all of a sudden, things that

1407
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:03.960
<v Speaker 5>you never thought you knew just makes so much sense.

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01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:09.680
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, it's just like, dude, it's like that inner knowing.

1409
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:14.520
<v Speaker 6>It is so obvious that it's like real, you know

1410
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:16.680
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying, Like you don't even question it. It's like,

1411
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:20.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. It's like a second language almost that

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01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:25.279
<v Speaker 6>you're almost unfamiliar with, that you automatically just remember whenever

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01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 6>you're in that flow.

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01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm. It's a happy place, dude, it is.

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01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:32.039
<v Speaker 6>The next one is from the Gospel of Thomas. This

1416
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:35.119
<v Speaker 6>is more of the Gnostic variety. But I figured, hey,

1417
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 6>well we'll include the Gnostic and the the not Gnostic

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01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:43.800
<v Speaker 6>texts from you know, the regular Bible and the Gnostic writings.

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01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:47.119
<v Speaker 6>So from the Gospel of Thomas, and this is saying

1420
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:51.520
<v Speaker 6>seventy that's what they're called. He goes or Jesus says,

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01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 6>if you bring forth what is within you, what you

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01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 6>bring forth will save you. If you do not bring

1423
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.399
<v Speaker 6>forth what is within you, what you do not bring

1424
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:03.159
<v Speaker 6>forth will destroy you.

1425
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh shitude, there's your savior and your devil right there, exactly.

1426
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.760
<v Speaker 6>So the interpretation from this one it says, this is

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01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:15.800
<v Speaker 6>one of the most direct Gnostic parallels to Young's Damon quote.

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01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.520
<v Speaker 6>If you do not speak to your damon, it will

1429
01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:19.760
<v Speaker 6>speak to you as fate.

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01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:21.119
<v Speaker 5>The idea that the.

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01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Inner force is either liberating or destructive depending on how

1432
01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:26.640
<v Speaker 6>you relate to it at the heart.

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01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Of Damon work.

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01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:29.000
<v Speaker 5>Fucking awesome.

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01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.960
<v Speaker 6>Next one is from John chapter five, verse nineteen. This

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01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.319
<v Speaker 6>is a quote another one. These are all from Jesus,

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01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:38.319
<v Speaker 6>by the way, So even though like for anybody it's

1439
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.239
<v Speaker 6>unfamiliar with the Bible, Like as I stated earlier, the

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01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:46.960
<v Speaker 6>four main gospels in the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Yeah,

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01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.840
<v Speaker 6>it's like it's their chapters, but they're all Jesus sayings. Essentially,

1442
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:55.279
<v Speaker 6>these are like Jesus's life was essentially.

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01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Written in these four books.

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01:16:56.520 --> 01:17:02.239
<v Speaker 6>Okay, according to the Bible, So John chapter five, verse nineteen,

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01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:06.079
<v Speaker 6>Jesus says, the son can do nothing of himself, but

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01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:10.079
<v Speaker 6>what he seeth that the Father do. For what things

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01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:14.159
<v Speaker 6>soever he does, these also do the Son.

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01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Likewise, that's written in very old English.

1449
01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:19.720
<v Speaker 5>It's very hard for me to understand. I'm at to

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01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:20.760
<v Speaker 5>read that a couple times.

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01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:25.079
<v Speaker 6>So the interpretation is essentially saying this. Jesus acknowledges that

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01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:28.560
<v Speaker 6>he follows the quote unquote Father. What the Father is

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01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:30.720
<v Speaker 6>kind of like the daemon of the Higher Self, right,

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01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:35.039
<v Speaker 6>He acknowledges that he follows the Father, but Gnostic readings

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01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:39.279
<v Speaker 6>see the Father as the inner divine source rather than

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01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:43.119
<v Speaker 6>an external sky God. It's the Higher Self, the Christ

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01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:46.520
<v Speaker 6>within a term mirrored by what the Greeks would call

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01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:47.439
<v Speaker 6>the damon.

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01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:51.319
<v Speaker 5>I love it. I love it, dude. The next why

1460
01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:52.479
<v Speaker 5>all this shit works? Man?

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01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:53.239
<v Speaker 2>It do?

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01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:57.159
<v Speaker 6>The next one is from the Gospel of Thomas Saying three,

1463
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:00.640
<v Speaker 6>where Jesus says, the kingdom is a side of you,

1464
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:03.439
<v Speaker 6>and it is outside of you. When you come to

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01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:06.439
<v Speaker 6>know yourself, then you will be known, and you will

1466
01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:09.319
<v Speaker 6>realize that it is you who are the sons of

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01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 6>the Living Father. The interpretation is that the daemon isn't

1468
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:18.079
<v Speaker 6>just a voice, it's a gateway to divine sonship. Jesus

1469
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 6>teaches that when you awaken to your true self, the

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01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.640
<v Speaker 6>Divine reveals itself as being one with you. That is

1471
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:28.319
<v Speaker 6>the essence of Christ consciousness and mirrors the daemon as

1472
01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:32.920
<v Speaker 6>a divine intermediary, that is you in your highest state.

1473
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:37.199
<v Speaker 5>Wow, and it's very powerful. It can create a heaven

1474
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:38.640
<v Speaker 5>on earth or a hell on earth.

1475
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:39.359
<v Speaker 6>You know.

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01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:41.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:46.039
<v Speaker 6>Then we go to John ten, verse thirty four. Jesus

1478
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:48.840
<v Speaker 6>says that it is not written in your law. I

1479
01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:53.680
<v Speaker 6>said you are God's yep. So the interpretation is is

1480
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:56.920
<v Speaker 6>that Jesus is quoting Psalm chapter eighty two, verse six,

1481
01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:02.319
<v Speaker 6>but recontextualizing it to pphasize the divinity within the very

1482
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:05.760
<v Speaker 6>same concept that the daemon embodies. You are not merely

1483
01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:08.880
<v Speaker 6>a servant of God, but a vessel of God. And

1484
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:12.720
<v Speaker 6>when in alignment with your divine self, you reflect that truth.

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01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:15.920
<v Speaker 5>It's inside all of us already. Man.

1486
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:20.840
<v Speaker 6>A Gospel of Philip from the Gnostic text says those

1487
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:24.600
<v Speaker 6>who say those who say they will die first and

1488
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:27.680
<v Speaker 6>then rise are mistaken. If they do not receive the

1489
01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:32.680
<v Speaker 6>resurrection while they live, when they die, they will receive nothing.

1490
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:37.359
<v Speaker 5>Oh that's not what I thought was understood.

1491
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 6>The interpretation is this supports the idea that awakening to

1492
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:45.960
<v Speaker 6>your damon your divine self must happen in life through

1493
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:50.239
<v Speaker 6>conscious through conscious inner work, you don't need to wait

1494
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:51.319
<v Speaker 6>to be saved.

1495
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 4>You remember who you are.

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01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:56.520
<v Speaker 5>M dude. And this is the thing that I've been

1497
01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:01.119
<v Speaker 5>saying a lot lately, is that you know, it's, uh,

1498
01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:05.359
<v Speaker 5>this a way of life isn't necessarily for preparation of death,

1499
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:07.920
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. It's to have a good

1500
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:11.439
<v Speaker 5>way to live while you're here, now, you know. Yeah,

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01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'll be real with you, dude.

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01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 6>The reason why I got into a lot of this

1503
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:19.159
<v Speaker 6>like spiritual stuff as deep as I as I personally have,

1504
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:22.840
<v Speaker 6>is because I've been trying to figure out what is

1505
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:26.199
<v Speaker 6>the right way to live, you know, like, because sometimes

1506
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:28.880
<v Speaker 6>you feel like you're you're trapped or you're strapped down

1507
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:30.680
<v Speaker 6>and you don't really have a say so, and you

1508
01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:32.520
<v Speaker 6>got to go along to get along, and you got

1509
01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.960
<v Speaker 6>to do this, and you have to fulfill obligations and

1510
01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:36.199
<v Speaker 6>all this other kind of stuff.

1511
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:38.640
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, sure, I'll do that.

1512
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:42.960
<v Speaker 6>Just let me spiritually find out the truth and you know,

1513
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.119
<v Speaker 6>and and that will kind of be my guide as

1514
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:47.520
<v Speaker 6>to what my next step in life will be. I mean,

1515
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:51.319
<v Speaker 6>if it's if I'm supposed to just do everything out

1516
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:53.960
<v Speaker 6>of obligation, then I don't have any problem doing that.

1517
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 6>But if if that's not the answer, and I don't

1518
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:00.760
<v Speaker 6>need to feel obligated that, you know, like because you

1519
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:03.840
<v Speaker 6>feel so out of alignment whenever, literally everything in your

1520
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:07.640
<v Speaker 6>life is an obligation right right, and you know, now

1521
01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:09.520
<v Speaker 6>you're doing things that you don't want to be doing,

1522
01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:11.960
<v Speaker 6>but you know you have to. And you know, whether

1523
01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.199
<v Speaker 6>you're working a job or whatever, maybe you're with somebody

1524
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.039
<v Speaker 6>you don't want to be with, whatever the case may be.

1525
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:18.640
<v Speaker 6>And so that's kind of like, really why I went

1526
01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:21.319
<v Speaker 6>into this whole spiritual you know, understand or got into

1527
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.239
<v Speaker 6>all this spiritual stuff in the first place, because I

1528
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.439
<v Speaker 6>was like, dude, what is the right way to live?

1529
01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.880
<v Speaker 6>Because I don't believe that anybody has a fucking speck

1530
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:32.800
<v Speaker 6>of knowledge at all about what's the right way to live.

1531
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:35.039
<v Speaker 6>So I'm not just gonna go and do what everybody

1532
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:36.960
<v Speaker 6>else is doing. Let me, let me try and figure

1533
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:37.840
<v Speaker 6>it out, you know.

1534
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:41.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, that that's perfect, dude. I think that's that's

1535
01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:43.640
<v Speaker 5>what a lot of us here, you know, experience all

1536
01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:46.199
<v Speaker 5>the time, Like what what is the lens that I

1537
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.439
<v Speaker 5>want to look through? That's the thing I've been really

1538
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:52.640
<v Speaker 5>trying to narrow down. Surely I know not to do

1539
01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:55.359
<v Speaker 5>certain things, and I know what things are good, but

1540
01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.720
<v Speaker 5>but how do I really want to visualize what my

1541
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:02.479
<v Speaker 5>existence is? You know? And I think that's I don't

1542
01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.119
<v Speaker 5>think anybody has a wrong answer, to be honest with you.

1543
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:07.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, I mean it's your own kind of inner

1544
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.479
<v Speaker 6>truth and your Damon will reveal it.

1545
01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 5>That's it, dude, that's it.

1546
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:16.880
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, so we read the Gospel of Philip. Oh,

1547
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:18.680
<v Speaker 6>now we're gonna get to one of my favorite Bible quote.

1548
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 6>It's probably my favorite actual Bible quote. I kind of

1549
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.079
<v Speaker 6>stated it earlier. I was right, though, Matthew, Chapter six,

1550
01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:27.880
<v Speaker 6>verse twenty two. Yep, good ship. It's probably because I

1551
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 6>did just read it when I was going over. So

1552
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:33.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm not gonna suck my own that much. But so

1553
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:37.000
<v Speaker 6>Matthew six twenty two. The light of the body. The

1554
01:22:37.119 --> 01:22:39.479
<v Speaker 6>light of the body is the eye. If therefore thine

1555
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:41.960
<v Speaker 6>I be single, the whole body shall be full of light.

1556
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 6>The interpretation is Esoterically, the single eye has been interpreted

1557
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:50.039
<v Speaker 6>as the pineal gland or inner vision, the eye through

1558
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:54.880
<v Speaker 6>which the damon might be perceived full of light equals

1559
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:57.119
<v Speaker 6>aligned with your divine guide.

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01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.399
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm. And that's where a lot of the school

1561
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:03.239
<v Speaker 5>experiences happened. Dude. You know, when you're in meditation or

1562
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 5>you're just contemplating, that's when things happen, not when you're

1563
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:09.079
<v Speaker 5>just in the physical world. I mean, sure you might

1564
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 5>have some synchronicities, and that's just I think that's pointing

1565
01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.880
<v Speaker 5>towards your level of awareness. But but yeah, when you're

1566
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:19.359
<v Speaker 5>meditating and you experience something, it it feels very real.

1567
01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:21.720
<v Speaker 5>You know, it doesn't feel like something you made up

1568
01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:22.760
<v Speaker 5>just to trick yourself.

1569
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 6>What you're acting like in union, you know, And that's

1570
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:29.319
<v Speaker 6>the idea behind like, you know, it's kind of like

1571
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:33.359
<v Speaker 6>a you know, like a union when you get married,

1572
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:36.640
<v Speaker 6>for example, right, Like you're now thinking as one unit

1573
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:39.920
<v Speaker 6>rather than two separate individuals. And that's what we're talking

1574
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:42.319
<v Speaker 6>about here. When we're talking about the union of you

1575
01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:46.399
<v Speaker 6>and you know, your third eye, your pinial plan, your

1576
01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:49.880
<v Speaker 6>dame on, your christ or whatever. With that, it's a

1577
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:54.680
<v Speaker 6>fucking union. You guys are coexisting, you're working together, you know,

1578
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.840
<v Speaker 6>and they're creating. Du Yeah, you're you're co creating. And

1579
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.239
<v Speaker 6>if you look at your life as a co creation

1580
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.479
<v Speaker 6>rather than just you're in charge of everything and you

1581
01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:06.560
<v Speaker 6>you don't have anybody to talk to, or anybody to ask,

1582
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:09.039
<v Speaker 6>or anybody to work with or anything like that, then

1583
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:10.960
<v Speaker 6>of course you're gonna feel like, oh my god, I

1584
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:13.039
<v Speaker 6>gotta do all this, I gotta do all that. That's

1585
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:16.199
<v Speaker 6>where anxiety and depression come along. But you know, you

1586
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:17.840
<v Speaker 6>got to get back to co creating.

1587
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:19.520
<v Speaker 5>You know. That's it, dude, that's it.

1588
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:24.439
<v Speaker 6>So my question to the one out here is was

1589
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:29.640
<v Speaker 6>Jesus actually talking about the damon because I think that

1590
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:30.000
<v Speaker 6>he was.

1591
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.279
<v Speaker 5>I think so when he was talking, he was on

1592
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:36.560
<v Speaker 5>some ship. Dude, you know he knew some shit. Oh

1593
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.199
<v Speaker 5>he definitely did so.

1594
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:42.159
<v Speaker 6>Uh So, Yeah, I mean that's pretty much it what

1595
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 6>I got so far. I mean, I got a couple

1596
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.119
<v Speaker 6>more things here, but then we're going to get to

1597
01:24:46.359 --> 01:24:48.479
<v Speaker 6>the chat over here and then we'll get to the

1598
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 6>tarot and then the meditation and all the fun experience.

1599
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 6>Oh that's right, Yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get

1600
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:58.039
<v Speaker 6>to that here a minute. Just remind me again. So

1601
01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:02.520
<v Speaker 6>now you know about the damon. The voice that nudged

1602
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:05.319
<v Speaker 6>you when no one else was looking, the whisper in

1603
01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:08.600
<v Speaker 6>the stillness, The invisible hand that pulled you back from

1604
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 6>the edge. Was never a ghost, It was never madness.

1605
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.560
<v Speaker 6>It was you, in the most divine form, the part

1606
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:17.319
<v Speaker 6>of you that never forgot who you were before the.

1607
01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:20.439
<v Speaker 4>World named you. The damon is not above you, it's

1608
01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:23.720
<v Speaker 4>not outside of you. It's the sacred fire within you,

1609
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 4>your compass, your guardian. You're twin born of starlight and memory.

1610
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:30.960
<v Speaker 4>It does not speak in fear, it does not command

1611
01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:34.239
<v Speaker 4>in rage. It guides with grace, and it waits in

1612
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:38.520
<v Speaker 4>silence until you are ready to listen. And now you are.

1613
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:41.760
<v Speaker 4>You've walked through the temples of Greece, into the minds

1614
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:46.279
<v Speaker 4>of Plato, Socrates, Proclus, Young Jesus, Jesus, and the mystics

1615
01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:49.600
<v Speaker 4>of old. You've seen the lies that turned a guardian

1616
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:53.359
<v Speaker 4>into a devil. You've remembered that salvation was never something

1617
01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:57.520
<v Speaker 4>to be found it was something to remember. So what now?

1618
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:00.520
<v Speaker 6>You speak its name, you light a candle, you take

1619
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:02.560
<v Speaker 6>a walk, or you close your eyes, and you ask,

1620
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:06.439
<v Speaker 6>show me who I was before the forgetting. Speak to

1621
01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:10.560
<v Speaker 6>me again, and it will not with thunder, not with fire,

1622
01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:11.520
<v Speaker 6>but with a.

1623
01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:16.079
<v Speaker 5>Feeling, a knowing, a return love it.

1624
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:19.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, beautiful, a little bit more. Actually, sorry, I thought

1625
01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:25.560
<v Speaker 6>that was gonna be it too. One more quote from

1626
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.640
<v Speaker 6>the Gospel of Thomas says, if you bring forth what

1627
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:32.479
<v Speaker 6>is within you, what you bring forth will save you.

1628
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.800
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, this is not the end of the story.

1629
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:38.479
<v Speaker 6>This is the beginning of your real life, now, the

1630
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:42.039
<v Speaker 6>life that your Damon already knows you're capable of living.

1631
01:26:42.279 --> 01:26:45.760
<v Speaker 6>As you walk forward, trust this, you're not alone, you're

1632
01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 6>not broken, and you're not lost. You've just remembered the

1633
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:51.880
<v Speaker 6>part of yourself that always knew the way. So if

1634
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 6>this rings true to the divine spark within you, then

1635
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.359
<v Speaker 6>tonight you met your damon. Now let the real journey begin.

1636
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:02.119
<v Speaker 5>I love it, dude. That's a that's a you know,

1637
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:04.800
<v Speaker 5>I was speaking earlier about choosing a lens to look through.

1638
01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>I think that's a pretty cool one. You know, as

1639
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:11.000
<v Speaker 5>far as you know a way of life. I love

1640
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:13.560
<v Speaker 5>it and don't get caught and semantics.

1641
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:15.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, I know that some people are gonna listen

1642
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:17.560
<v Speaker 6>to this and they're gonna be like, oh, so the

1643
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:19.800
<v Speaker 6>demon's here to save you, you know what I mean.

1644
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:22.399
<v Speaker 6>It's like, all right, just put another term on it,

1645
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:24.840
<v Speaker 6>like put it on say it's your guide, Say it's

1646
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.840
<v Speaker 6>your guardian angel. You know, this is actually something that

1647
01:27:27.920 --> 01:27:31.199
<v Speaker 6>even I mean, Aleister Crowley, whatever you want to think

1648
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:33.840
<v Speaker 6>about him, he was kind of a shithead. But if

1649
01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 6>you look into even what he says it whenever whenever,

1650
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:41.439
<v Speaker 6>uh damn it. What was it called the Damon? Whenever

1651
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.399
<v Speaker 6>he spoke spoke of the Damon, he literally called it

1652
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:46.840
<v Speaker 6>the Guardian Angel.

1653
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:51.680
<v Speaker 5>So whatever you want, you know, those are just labels anyways.

1654
01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:54.880
<v Speaker 6>So essentially, yeah, so look at it like your guardian angel.

1655
01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:57.079
<v Speaker 6>Look at it like it's God. Look at it like

1656
01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:00.239
<v Speaker 6>it's your connection to God. Maybe it's your connection to

1657
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.000
<v Speaker 6>your ancestors. But whatever it is, it's that signal. Essentially,

1658
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:08.359
<v Speaker 6>it is your cell phone signal, it's your Wi Fi signal,

1659
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:12.319
<v Speaker 6>it's you know, it's the you know, the interconnective kind

1660
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:17.560
<v Speaker 6>of connecting tissue or connecting wires to the divine.

1661
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:21.319
<v Speaker 5>So I love it. Yeah, I love it freaking sweet dude.

1662
01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:24.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, dude, I thought, you know, I was actually looking

1663
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:27.439
<v Speaker 6>about this and whenever I found this out, I was like,

1664
01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:33.039
<v Speaker 6>oh my god. Literally the term demon comes from Higher

1665
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:36.720
<v Speaker 6>Self and and you know, it is like it's like

1666
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:40.000
<v Speaker 6>the most ancient conspiracy of all time if you think

1667
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:40.439
<v Speaker 6>about it.

1668
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:42.600
<v Speaker 5>They didn't even change a word that much, you.

1669
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Know, dude, I mean they got les with it.

1670
01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:46.159
<v Speaker 6>They were like, you know what, let's let's slap that

1671
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:48.199
<v Speaker 6>a off, you know what I mean, Like we're just

1672
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.760
<v Speaker 6>gonna get really weird. And so I actually I called

1673
01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:53.159
<v Speaker 6>Jacob and I was like, dude, you gotta let me

1674
01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:55.840
<v Speaker 6>fucking run this on the cult bro, like that's this

1675
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:58.840
<v Speaker 6>is one of the oldest conspiracies of all time. And

1676
01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Jacob was just like, well, I mean, is it though?

1677
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.239
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, what, you know, because he's Christian,

1678
01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:06.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, that's how he's going to look at it,

1679
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.560
<v Speaker 6>like he don't believe in the Higher Self or he

1680
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.600
<v Speaker 6>don't believe and you know, he believes that humans are

1681
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:15.119
<v Speaker 6>just lesser than and I mean to each their own.

1682
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:17.119
<v Speaker 6>But so, yeah, I had to run it on Meta

1683
01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:20.000
<v Speaker 6>even though it's kind of conspiratorial, kind of spiritual.

1684
01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:21.760
<v Speaker 4>It was kind of riding in the middle there.

1685
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I love it. I love it, dude, And you know,

1686
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:25.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I kind of feel I kind of

1687
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:28.720
<v Speaker 5>feel bad. You know if if someone has an intuitive

1688
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:31.399
<v Speaker 5>thought or or you know, their guide is nudging them

1689
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:33.319
<v Speaker 5>and they're like, well, I'm not a prophet, that must

1690
01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:35.640
<v Speaker 5>be a demon. I'm just going to not listen to that,

1691
01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:38.479
<v Speaker 5>you know, Like I don't know, I don't know.

1692
01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:44.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, you know, it's just that the only thing

1693
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:48.359
<v Speaker 6>how a demon is created, just funny is by not

1694
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:52.840
<v Speaker 6>listening to your damon, right literally, I mean, and.

1695
01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:55.239
<v Speaker 5>You will call it pete and you'll call it.

1696
01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly.

1697
01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 6>Kara said, such a good topic for this new moon,

1698
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:01.560
<v Speaker 6>bring that power back to yourself.

1699
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Amen's sister.

1700
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:03.640
<v Speaker 5>That's right.

1701
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.960
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, we'll get into that story now. All right.

1702
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 6>So this past weekend at bro Grove, we went out

1703
01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:14.960
<v Speaker 6>to Florida, which is it was like an hour outside

1704
01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:18.920
<v Speaker 6>of Orlando, so pretty pretty close to Orlando, and so

1705
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:23.079
<v Speaker 6>flew in went to Brohemian Grove that night. We got

1706
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 6>in Friday morning. Friday night we had our panel at

1707
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:29.439
<v Speaker 6>Brohemian Grove where me and Jacob we got up on

1708
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:32.920
<v Speaker 6>stage and we talked for like an hour, hour and

1709
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:35.880
<v Speaker 6>fifteen minutes or something like that, and it was just

1710
01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:36.960
<v Speaker 6>all about aliens.

1711
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:38.479
<v Speaker 4>What are they? You know?

1712
01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:40.520
<v Speaker 6>Of course you had a lot of Christians there, so

1713
01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:42.600
<v Speaker 6>they all believe that, you know, it was demons or

1714
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.359
<v Speaker 6>evil entities or something like that, which I was like,

1715
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.119
<v Speaker 6>come on, dude, you can't open up your third eye,

1716
01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:51.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, like just stop thinking that everything's evil for

1717
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:55.600
<v Speaker 6>one second. So yeah, we got up there. We called

1718
01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:57.640
<v Speaker 6>on a bunch of people. Dude, we caught on Donut,

1719
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.399
<v Speaker 6>which was really cool to actually see him in person.

1720
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:02.720
<v Speaker 4>We called on a.

1721
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:04.920
<v Speaker 6>Bunch of awesome people. There was these people called the

1722
01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:09.159
<v Speaker 6>Biblical Hitmen, which they were pretty cool. Who else was

1723
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:12.279
<v Speaker 6>up there? The paranoid American His name was Thomas. I've

1724
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 6>had him on the Cult as well, and a bunch

1725
01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:16.920
<v Speaker 6>of other people, and it was really cool getting to know, like,

1726
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:19.159
<v Speaker 6>and you know, see how these people are in person,

1727
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:21.560
<v Speaker 6>because I've talked to him for years, you know, on

1728
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:25.159
<v Speaker 6>on podcasts and stuff, but seeing him in person, especially Donut,

1729
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:27.680
<v Speaker 6>like he was the most I was most excited to

1730
01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:30.800
<v Speaker 6>meet Donut because he, dude, he's always been diving into

1731
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:33.479
<v Speaker 6>the esoteric and the Illuminati and all of that kind

1732
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:35.720
<v Speaker 6>of stuff. And that's why that's my ship whenever it

1733
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:38.319
<v Speaker 6>comes to conspiracy. I want to know the esoteric meaning

1734
01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.560
<v Speaker 6>behind a lot of it, you know. And so it

1735
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:44.000
<v Speaker 6>was really cool because after we had him on the panel,

1736
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:46.279
<v Speaker 6>and after we were done with the panel, Donut came

1737
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:48.279
<v Speaker 6>up to me. He goes, dude, you are you guys

1738
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:51.000
<v Speaker 6>are really good and I was like really because I

1739
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:53.840
<v Speaker 6>was shipping my pants up on stage, you know, like

1740
01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:57.800
<v Speaker 6>I was scared shitless. But yeah, it came out really

1741
01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:00.800
<v Speaker 6>good and so we were really proud of that. So anyway,

1742
01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:05.039
<v Speaker 6>we ended up going back to the Airbnb. Me, Jacob

1743
01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:08.680
<v Speaker 6>and a couple other people ended up going back the

1744
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.359
<v Speaker 6>Spirit Animal. If you've listened to the Cult of Conspiracy

1745
01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:13.720
<v Speaker 6>live show, Spirit Animal is always there. We got to

1746
01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:16.880
<v Speaker 6>meet him in person. He's exactly like you would expect,

1747
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.039
<v Speaker 6>just a wild fucking wild man. Really cool guy though,

1748
01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:25.560
<v Speaker 6>and enough said, Steph was there, which was really cool.

1749
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:29.399
<v Speaker 6>And so yeah, after everybody was winding down, I looked

1750
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:31.920
<v Speaker 6>over at Steph and I was like, it's that time,

1751
01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:34.760
<v Speaker 6>and she was then she knew like that's what she

1752
01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:37.000
<v Speaker 6>was staying for, because we were gonna we were gonna

1753
01:32:37.079 --> 01:32:39.840
<v Speaker 6>do psychedelics together or for Raco, really is what we did.

1754
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:41.560
<v Speaker 4>And so we did it.

1755
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.039
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, look, it's it's gonna come on

1756
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:46.720
<v Speaker 6>within fifteen or twenty minutes. It's gonna hit you pretty fast.

1757
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:50.359
<v Speaker 6>And I said, whenever it does, just close your eyes

1758
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:56.039
<v Speaker 6>and don't say anything. Just just observe. Observe that's all.

1759
01:32:56.239 --> 01:33:01.239
<v Speaker 6>Just become. Just be awareness. Don't don't have any anything

1760
01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:04.800
<v Speaker 6>to do in your mind at all, just be the observer,

1761
01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:08.319
<v Speaker 6>right and so, and it was funny because we sat

1762
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:10.640
<v Speaker 6>on like we we were sitting like she sat in

1763
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:13.479
<v Speaker 6>a recliner. I was sitting on a couch, and I

1764
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.760
<v Speaker 6>would every so often I would open my eyes to

1765
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:17.520
<v Speaker 6>just get a little peer at her to see how

1766
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:21.199
<v Speaker 6>she's reacting to it, you know. And dude, the entire time,

1767
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:25.960
<v Speaker 6>she was grinning from ear to ear, like absolute solace,

1768
01:33:26.439 --> 01:33:31.039
<v Speaker 6>so much solitude, so much peace and happiness and understanding.

1769
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.439
<v Speaker 6>You know, Like I could tell that that's what was

1770
01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:35.760
<v Speaker 6>going on because I was feeling it too.

1771
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1772
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:39.800
<v Speaker 4>It was something that whenever you're there, and I mean, yeah.

1773
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:43.880
<v Speaker 5>There natural state, just happy and smiling, oh dude, I mean.

1774
01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:46.319
<v Speaker 6>And the visuals are awesome, don't get me wrong, but

1775
01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:52.039
<v Speaker 6>that's secondary. Not of it that secondary because I'm telling

1776
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:56.079
<v Speaker 6>you you like psychedelics and I, I mean, this is

1777
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:58.560
<v Speaker 6>just my own personal opinion. This, this is my experience.

1778
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:03.279
<v Speaker 6>Psychedelics bring you back to that level of understanding, like

1779
01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:06.760
<v Speaker 6>to where you don't you don't question anything. You know

1780
01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:10.560
<v Speaker 6>what's going on now, like and and there's like a

1781
01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:13.399
<v Speaker 6>bunch of epiphanies that that go on like so and

1782
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:16.119
<v Speaker 6>one of the epiphanies that I had was like because

1783
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.119
<v Speaker 6>whenever I was sitting there on the couch and I

1784
01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:20.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, I closed my eyes and I went inward.

1785
01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:22.680
<v Speaker 4>It was like, Wow, if.

1786
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:25.680
<v Speaker 6>Aliens were ever going to come, they would just come

1787
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:29.159
<v Speaker 6>in the moment and they they they almost exist like

1788
01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:32.159
<v Speaker 6>outside of time, you know, call it aliens or spirits

1789
01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:35.039
<v Speaker 6>or gods or whatever. If anybody was going to come,

1790
01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:37.560
<v Speaker 6>this is how they would do it because they would

1791
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:40.359
<v Speaker 6>enter this space. And this is just you know, maybe

1792
01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:42.199
<v Speaker 6>my mind just tripping. I don't know, this is your

1793
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:46.439
<v Speaker 6>mind on drugues. But but that was like my understanding

1794
01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:49.159
<v Speaker 6>is that they could almost like pause time because they

1795
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:51.199
<v Speaker 6>exist outside of time. And that's where you see like

1796
01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:54.119
<v Speaker 6>all the interdimensional shit, the you know, the orbs or

1797
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:56.520
<v Speaker 6>the the UFOs they pop in and then they pop

1798
01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:00.560
<v Speaker 6>out of existence kind of thing, and that was kind

1799
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.159
<v Speaker 6>of where my mind went. And uh, it was. It

1800
01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:05.800
<v Speaker 6>was pretty awesome. But after a while, I you know,

1801
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:08.359
<v Speaker 6>I saw Stephanie started to open up her eyes and

1802
01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:10.600
<v Speaker 6>I was like, hey, you want to see something even

1803
01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:11.159
<v Speaker 6>cooler than that.

1804
01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:12.119
<v Speaker 4>Let's go outside.

1805
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.159
<v Speaker 5>I was like, let's go outside, right, dude.

1806
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.920
<v Speaker 6>She takes one step outside the front door and she

1807
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:23.399
<v Speaker 6>looks down at the grass and she is giggling like crazy,

1808
01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:27.159
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, what are you laughing at? And

1809
01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:31.239
<v Speaker 6>she was like, dude, the fucking grass is so green.

1810
01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:32.640
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I'm.

1811
01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:33.359
<v Speaker 5>Telling you it is.

1812
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 6>I know, and it sounds ridiculous, but it's just because

1813
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:38.319
<v Speaker 6>it amplifies everything.

1814
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Just appreciate it more.

1815
01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:43.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you get into that level of appreciation because everything

1816
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:48.359
<v Speaker 6>is so beautiful, Like every single thing is so beautiful,

1817
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:51.920
<v Speaker 6>the night sky, the trees, the grass, like something as

1818
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.199
<v Speaker 6>silly as just the grass. Appreciating appreciating it.

1819
01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1820
01:35:55.960 --> 01:35:57.119
<v Speaker 4>It was really it was really fun.

1821
01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:59.279
<v Speaker 6>And I said, you know what, let's I'm gonna I'm

1822
01:35:59.319 --> 01:36:02.239
<v Speaker 6>gonna read you in here a little bit on what

1823
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:05.319
<v Speaker 6>me and Sean do whenever we do psychedelics together. And

1824
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:07.920
<v Speaker 6>I said, let's go walk out in the street and

1825
01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:11.920
<v Speaker 6>I was like, just look up at the sky. And

1826
01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:13.520
<v Speaker 6>so we were looking up at the sky and we

1827
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:16.880
<v Speaker 6>were like, oh my god, there is something extra going

1828
01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:20.479
<v Speaker 6>on right now, you know. And I said, I said,

1829
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:22.039
<v Speaker 6>you know what's funny is that me and and I

1830
01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:24.319
<v Speaker 6>kind of want to get your you know, your thoughts

1831
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.279
<v Speaker 6>on this. And I said, what me and Sean came

1832
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:30.479
<v Speaker 6>to the conclusion was was that it almost feels like

1833
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:33.039
<v Speaker 6>whenever you're staring up at the sky when you're on psychedelics,

1834
01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:36.199
<v Speaker 6>that there's Papa Razzi and because it's just like a

1835
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:40.680
<v Speaker 6>bunch of everything. And she started busting out laughing. She

1836
01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.800
<v Speaker 6>was like, holy shit, I was just thinking that right

1837
01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:46.760
<v Speaker 6>and saw she was able to see. Yeah, she felt

1838
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.520
<v Speaker 6>that she saw it right. And so we, you know,

1839
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:53.039
<v Speaker 6>we just started talking and very in depth kind of talking, right,

1840
01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:56.960
<v Speaker 6>like conversations you don't just have with surface level, you

1841
01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:00.159
<v Speaker 6>know kind of people, you know, and we're going in

1842
01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.119
<v Speaker 6>on each other about each other's lives and in depth

1843
01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:07.399
<v Speaker 6>kind of stuff. It was really nice actually, until so

1844
01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:10.479
<v Speaker 6>we were leaning up against the car that I rented

1845
01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:12.560
<v Speaker 6>right and it was parked out in the street and

1846
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:14.600
<v Speaker 6>we were looking up at one corner of the sky.

1847
01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:17.279
<v Speaker 6>And when we were looking up there, we saw it.

1848
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:19.359
<v Speaker 6>Or I was like, holy shit, did you see that?

1849
01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:22.319
<v Speaker 6>And she goes, yeah, what was that? And and I

1850
01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:25.159
<v Speaker 6>was like, you know, that's what electro Nick calls the homies,

1851
01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:25.600
<v Speaker 6>you know.

1852
01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the homies.

1853
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And so she was seeing it, and and

1854
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:32.560
<v Speaker 6>so it was like really cool. But then they kept

1855
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.960
<v Speaker 6>on happening and happening and happening, and it was just dude,

1856
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:37.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean non stop. We saw twenty or thirty of

1857
01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:41.039
<v Speaker 6>them in one night, like within an hour, and it

1858
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:43.439
<v Speaker 6>was like they were popping up almost every minute or

1859
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:45.880
<v Speaker 6>every other minute there for a little while, almost to

1860
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.000
<v Speaker 6>the point where we were like, oh, it's not even

1861
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.199
<v Speaker 6>that crazy to even look at that portion of the

1862
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:51.239
<v Speaker 6>sky that you're gonna say.

1863
01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we were like what is that then?

1864
01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:58.239
<v Speaker 6>And and some of them were, you know, brighter, some

1865
01:37:58.319 --> 01:37:59.920
<v Speaker 6>of them were a little bit more dim, some of

1866
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:01.960
<v Speaker 6>them would fade a little faster, some of them would

1867
01:38:01.960 --> 01:38:04.159
<v Speaker 6>stick around a little bit more often, but they all

1868
01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:06.399
<v Speaker 6>seem to be going the same general direction of the

1869
01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:12.000
<v Speaker 6>sky over knee or over the forested area, right, and

1870
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.319
<v Speaker 6>it was literally we were looking all over the sky,

1871
01:38:14.399 --> 01:38:16.960
<v Speaker 6>didn't see him anywhere except for this one position in

1872
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:21.920
<v Speaker 6>the sky. And Stephanie was just like, you know, it

1873
01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:24.840
<v Speaker 6>almost gives kind of like the vibe that like they're working,

1874
01:38:25.079 --> 01:38:28.560
<v Speaker 6>like they're doing that. It's like, you're probably right, I don't.

1875
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:31.479
<v Speaker 5>Know, contractors of this reality just kind of making sure

1876
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:32.960
<v Speaker 5>everything stays together for us.

1877
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:37.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and so it was really cool and then we

1878
01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:40.159
<v Speaker 6>do we just ended up talking for like three hours

1879
01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:40.560
<v Speaker 6>after that.

1880
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:42.039
<v Speaker 5>It was just awesome.

1881
01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a great night.

1882
01:38:43.039 --> 01:38:44.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad she was able to see the stars and

1883
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:47.600
<v Speaker 5>the paparazzi do because I feel like, yeah, sure you'll

1884
01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:49.680
<v Speaker 5>see some visuals when you close your eyes and you'll

1885
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:52.359
<v Speaker 5>see the trees and you will feel like some sort

1886
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:55.479
<v Speaker 5>of connection to a tree that doesn't even make sense

1887
01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:57.439
<v Speaker 5>to you, but in the moment it's so real. But

1888
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:00.319
<v Speaker 5>when you look at the stars, dude, it's probably the

1889
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:04.239
<v Speaker 5>most majestic experience you'll ever have, you know, just and

1890
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm part of that. Yeah, and just I love it, you.

1891
01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Know, separate from it.

1892
01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 6>And so that was that was really our experience. It

1893
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:13.520
<v Speaker 6>was really good, and you know, I kind of came

1894
01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:16.119
<v Speaker 6>to my own conclusion that I was like, Dude, I've

1895
01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:20.479
<v Speaker 6>been waiting so long to trip again, Like I like

1896
01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:23.199
<v Speaker 6>it almost like my last DMT trip almost scared me

1897
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:26.159
<v Speaker 6>from doing it again on some real shit, and you know,

1898
01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:28.680
<v Speaker 6>I was really hesitant, and I was like, man, I

1899
01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:31.039
<v Speaker 6>really don't want that to happen again, you know, like

1900
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:32.319
<v Speaker 6>kind of you know.

1901
01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:34.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh, you know, it's not going to go there for

1902
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:37.399
<v Speaker 5>you with the at least with the four Aco but

1903
01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:39.600
<v Speaker 5>but yeah, I can still understand the concern.

1904
01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:42.600
<v Speaker 6>And and I asked Steph afterward and I was like,

1905
01:39:42.640 --> 01:39:45.520
<v Speaker 6>because the last bro growth, she came and we we

1906
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:48.279
<v Speaker 6>all did d like actual d MT, and then this

1907
01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:50.600
<v Speaker 6>trip we did the four Aco d MT, and I

1908
01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:52.279
<v Speaker 6>was like, which one do you like better? And she goes,

1909
01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:54.960
<v Speaker 6>fucking this by a mile oh, And I was like

1910
01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 6>I feel the same exact way. Sure, So yeah, I

1911
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:04.560
<v Speaker 6>really really cool experience. But yeah, that was that was that.

1912
01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:07.000
<v Speaker 6>And after Dude, in the middle of it, I was like,

1913
01:40:07.079 --> 01:40:08.880
<v Speaker 6>oh my god, what have I.

1914
01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:10.079
<v Speaker 4>Waited so long for?

1915
01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:11.600
<v Speaker 5>This is what I love?

1916
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:16.439
<v Speaker 6>Like it was it's just so majestic, it's so it's dude,

1917
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:19.439
<v Speaker 6>It's one of the most spiritual things that you can ever, ever,

1918
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.199
<v Speaker 6>ever experience. You know, we can all meditate, we can

1919
01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:24.359
<v Speaker 6>all dream, we can all have deja vu, we can

1920
01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:29.600
<v Speaker 6>all see synchronicities, but you're not fully encapsulated into three

1921
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:31.760
<v Speaker 6>plus hours, you know what I mean.

1922
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.479
<v Speaker 4>Like it is as spiritual as it gets, bro.

1923
01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.760
<v Speaker 6>And I was thinking too that, like like, dude, that's

1924
01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:40.880
<v Speaker 6>where we go when we die, Like like I don't

1925
01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:42.279
<v Speaker 6>even question it anymore.

1926
01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:45.399
<v Speaker 5>That's space the treehouse, right, yeah, you know that's the

1927
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:47.479
<v Speaker 5>thing that I don't understand. Well, I guess I kind

1928
01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:49.479
<v Speaker 5>of do understand. But like you can go into a

1929
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:52.880
<v Speaker 5>dark room and you don't see the paparazzi. As soon

1930
01:40:52.880 --> 01:40:55.199
<v Speaker 5>as you look at the stars, that's all you see.

1931
01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:58.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's everywhere. It's like glitter, you know what

1932
01:40:58.640 --> 01:40:59.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Like what is that? You know?

1933
01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:02.600
<v Speaker 6>What's funny to do is that sometimes I'll even go outside,

1934
01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:05.079
<v Speaker 6>just on a random night or whatever.

1935
01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:06.279
<v Speaker 4>And I swear I.

1936
01:41:06.239 --> 01:41:10.520
<v Speaker 6>Get like little like little glimmers of paparazzi, you know,

1937
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:13.640
<v Speaker 6>like whatever that is, and which.

1938
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:16.840
<v Speaker 5>Flash right yeah, yeah, like just out of the corner

1939
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:19.520
<v Speaker 5>of my eye. You know, I've seen them like right

1940
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:21.720
<v Speaker 5>in front of me. Dude, It'll just flash and I'm

1941
01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:23.840
<v Speaker 5>looking in that general area. It wasn't like I had

1942
01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:25.920
<v Speaker 5>just because you know, you've had those moments where you

1943
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:27.680
<v Speaker 5>look over and you see something that was in the

1944
01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:29.680
<v Speaker 5>corner of your eye and it's like real quick, but

1945
01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:32.279
<v Speaker 5>like I'll be staring in a general direction and just

1946
01:41:32.279 --> 01:41:35.079
<v Speaker 5>see a little like and I'm like what, you know,

1947
01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:37.079
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I'm like I might be losing it.

1948
01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, and we've we've thought about it before, like whenever

1949
01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:41.920
<v Speaker 6>we're looking up and we're seeing that, are we kind

1950
01:41:41.960 --> 01:41:45.319
<v Speaker 6>of seeing beyond the veil of what's really actually there?

1951
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:49.479
<v Speaker 6>Like are we seeing multiple dimensions or multiple realities or

1952
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:51.920
<v Speaker 6>is it just like what's beyond the veil of our

1953
01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:54.760
<v Speaker 6>current understanding with our physical eyes that we can't see

1954
01:41:54.800 --> 01:41:57.239
<v Speaker 6>all of that unless like we did with the whole

1955
01:41:57.279 --> 01:42:00.359
<v Speaker 6>DMTX episode where you have access to ninety percent as

1956
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:02.039
<v Speaker 6>opposed to ten percent of your brain.

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<v Speaker 5>Right right, And this is why I said, as far

1958
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.760
<v Speaker 5>as looking into a room with no lights on, it's

1959
01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:09.319
<v Speaker 5>completely pitch black, you know, because in my mind, I'm like,

1960
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:11.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe we're seeing all these different flashes because

1961
01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:15.319
<v Speaker 5>we're looking in like at this big sky and it's dark,

1962
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:17.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, and so our mind is able to pick

1963
01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:21.000
<v Speaker 5>up on certain things like that or or manifest that

1964
01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:23.039
<v Speaker 5>for us to experience. But when you go into a

1965
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:25.600
<v Speaker 5>dark room, you don't see that. It's only when you're

1966
01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:29.720
<v Speaker 5>looking out there. Yeah, so that's why I'm led to

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01:42:29.760 --> 01:42:33.600
<v Speaker 5>believe that it is some sort of veil going away.

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01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:36.840
<v Speaker 5>You know, the ego is not really fully operating at

1969
01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:39.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I would probably say hardly at all during

1970
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:43.039
<v Speaker 5>that time. And so now you're just more connected, you know.

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01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Well, and that's you know what's funny too, is

1972
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.000
<v Speaker 6>that right before we started tripping, or I think once

1973
01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:50.960
<v Speaker 6>we had already taken it and we were waiting for

1974
01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:51.880
<v Speaker 6>it to come about.

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01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:52.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:57.079
<v Speaker 6>I told Steph, I was like, look, whatever happens, just

1977
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:02.239
<v Speaker 6>surrender to it, Like, don't fight it. Just go with

1978
01:43:02.359 --> 01:43:05.560
<v Speaker 6>the flow of whatever you're seeing is happening. You're meant

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01:43:05.560 --> 01:43:07.920
<v Speaker 6>to see it. It's not out of line, it's not

1980
01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:10.000
<v Speaker 6>out of order. You were meant to be in this

1981
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:14.199
<v Speaker 6>moment right here, right now, and just know that. Don't

1982
01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:17.800
<v Speaker 6>even question you, you know it. And and so yeah,

1983
01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:22.119
<v Speaker 6>it went really well. And afterwards, actually yeah, afterwards she

1984
01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:25.640
<v Speaker 6>said she was like, dude, Like whenever she was getting

1985
01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:27.039
<v Speaker 6>in her car and getting ready to go back to

1986
01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 6>her hotel. She was like, thank you for being my

1987
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:34.000
<v Speaker 6>shopman tonight. That's the last time somebody said that to me.

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01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:37.439
<v Speaker 5>That's awesome, dude, Yeah, that's awesome.

1989
01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:40.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't so uh sean.

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01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:44.119
<v Speaker 6>We got a tarot, sir, oh, I absolutely do.

1991
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:47.560
<v Speaker 5>We got the four of swords.

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01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:49.920
<v Speaker 6>I kind of had a feeling that it was going

1993
01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:53.920
<v Speaker 6>to be swords. Actually really yeah, because we actually oh yeah,

1994
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:55.399
<v Speaker 6>that's right, we actually drew.

1995
01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:58.680
<v Speaker 4>So I shuffled some taro. Dude, we got to try

1996
01:43:58.720 --> 01:43:59.319
<v Speaker 4>this next time.

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01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:02.640
<v Speaker 6>So I shuffled some tarot rate before we were about

1998
01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:05.439
<v Speaker 6>to trip, and I said, I want us to We're

1999
01:44:05.439 --> 01:44:08.359
<v Speaker 6>gonna draw a tarot card, and I want us to

2000
01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:12.119
<v Speaker 6>both meditate on this while we're tripping, Like, meditate on

2001
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:13.439
<v Speaker 6>the meaning of it. I don't even remember what the

2002
01:44:13.439 --> 01:44:15.279
<v Speaker 6>card was now, but I think it was a sword.

2003
01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:19.239
<v Speaker 4>But all right, so what was it? The four of swords?

2004
01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:23.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, damn, I just turned right to it right up.

2005
01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:26.399
<v Speaker 4>Too, all right, the four of swords.

2006
01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:31.159
<v Speaker 6>Pausing to relax and rest your thoughts is a necessary

2007
01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:33.920
<v Speaker 6>part of life. After this, you'll be able to move

2008
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:39.640
<v Speaker 6>forward with greater energy and a clear mind. You are

2009
01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:42.880
<v Speaker 6>exhausted from an intense experience, so the Four of Swords

2010
01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:45.960
<v Speaker 6>asked you to take time to look within yourself, rest

2011
01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:50.039
<v Speaker 6>and recuperate. The night is oh, there's a night on

2012
01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:52.760
<v Speaker 6>the card that's laying down, So the night is depicted

2013
01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:55.560
<v Speaker 6>as an effigy atop a tomb. Yet this card does

2014
01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:59.920
<v Speaker 6>not signify death. Instead, it symbolizes deep rest. The nights

2015
01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:04.359
<v Speaker 6>hands are clasped in a prayer pose that is used

2016
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:08.600
<v Speaker 6>in meditation, yoga, and various religions. The tomb itself evokes

2017
01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:11.199
<v Speaker 6>silence and time away from the noise of the world.

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01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:13.800
<v Speaker 6>The swords hung on the wall ask the knight to

2019
01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:17.600
<v Speaker 6>let his battle weapons rest, while one sword remains beneath

2020
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:21.359
<v Speaker 6>the night, signifying that he is quick to react when needed.

2021
01:45:22.119 --> 01:45:24.800
<v Speaker 6>The spiritual message behind it says, carving out a quiet

2022
01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:27.840
<v Speaker 6>time to meditate and focus on your spiritual path will

2023
01:45:27.880 --> 01:45:31.479
<v Speaker 6>do you a world of good. Incorporating more solitude and

2024
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:35.199
<v Speaker 6>self reflection into your life greatly affects your overall happiness

2025
01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:38.199
<v Speaker 6>and well being. A card of recovery, the Four of

2026
01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:41.399
<v Speaker 6>Swords could be related to a period of recuperation from

2027
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:45.319
<v Speaker 6>illness or a time of seeking medical treatment, therapy, or counseling.

2028
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:51.159
<v Speaker 6>The upright. Key positions are rest and introspection. The numerology,

2029
01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:55.439
<v Speaker 6>since it is a four of swords, is structure and stability. Dude,

2030
01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:58.680
<v Speaker 6>I kind of feel like that was on some uh

2031
01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:02.039
<v Speaker 6>go ahead, perfect the perfect card, I think.

2032
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:03.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought it was a really good one.

2033
01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:05.520
<v Speaker 5>So the one and what I was looking at was

2034
01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:08.079
<v Speaker 5>the you know, you hang up the three swords, right,

2035
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:10.279
<v Speaker 5>and then you still have the one sort, but the

2036
01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.039
<v Speaker 5>one sword that's with you is the same color, you

2037
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.239
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. And so when you when you

2038
01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:18.800
<v Speaker 5>rest your mind and stop digging too far into your

2039
01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:22.199
<v Speaker 5>own thoughts and getting bogged down, you know, you you

2040
01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:25.000
<v Speaker 5>I feel like that other sword is just your higher self,

2041
01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:27.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, or your dame on because you know what

2042
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:31.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2043
01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:35.239
<v Speaker 6>I just like the idea of the rest and like

2044
01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:38.800
<v Speaker 6>recuperation kind of period, you know, which is what we

2045
01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:40.159
<v Speaker 6>always talk about with meditation.

2046
01:46:40.199 --> 01:46:41.560
<v Speaker 4>That's really what that does. You know.

2047
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:43.920
<v Speaker 6>It's like a temporary little rest that you give yourself

2048
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:45.920
<v Speaker 6>throughout the days or you're not really worried so much

2049
01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:48.520
<v Speaker 6>about like the worldly things, and you can kind of

2050
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:51.520
<v Speaker 6>go in and guiet the noise and gather yourself all

2051
01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:54.720
<v Speaker 6>over again. So I think that was really speaking on meditation,

2052
01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:57.479
<v Speaker 6>and I mean maybe you just need a long ass

2053
01:46:57.479 --> 01:46:58.880
<v Speaker 6>sleep too, you know, like.

2054
01:46:58.960 --> 01:47:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe dude, you just need some rest, you know,

2055
01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:04.399
<v Speaker 5>find that space between the notes, man the n betwixt.

2056
01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:06.079
<v Speaker 5>That's it. That's right.

2057
01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:11.880
<v Speaker 6>Asia said, where does one obtain for echo d MT?

2058
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:16.359
<v Speaker 6>Asking for scientific purposes, of course, and Kara said, I

2059
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:20.199
<v Speaker 6>would also like to know for mystical and educational purposes only.

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01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Of course.

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01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, of course, you guys are my people. I love it. Yeah,

2062
01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:30.880
<v Speaker 6>I may have to say that off air. I don't

2063
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:32.479
<v Speaker 6>know if I can say the little on the show.

2064
01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:34.479
<v Speaker 6>We'll see, but.

2065
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:36.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, well I guess we're gonna wrap it

2066
01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:36.960
<v Speaker 4>up right there.

2067
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:39.159
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna get over to the meditation will reconvene a

2068
01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:43.840
<v Speaker 6>little bit afterward, and so maybe stick around if you

2069
01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:45.760
<v Speaker 6>want that answer, because I can't say it while we're

2070
01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:46.399
<v Speaker 6>shooting the.

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01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:50.800
<v Speaker 5>Show, dude. You know, final thoughts, dude. I thought that

2072
01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:53.079
<v Speaker 5>was a great episode and it was very informative, and

2073
01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:55.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it kind of it makes sense, dude. You know,

2074
01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:59.880
<v Speaker 5>you put your your intentions and your awareness into a night,

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01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:02.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, and it and it becomes real, you know,

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01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:06.640
<v Speaker 5>and I love it. It's, uh, this was perfect for me.

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01:48:06.920 --> 01:48:08.880
<v Speaker 5>It's almost like sometimes I feel like you're doing these

2078
01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:11.119
<v Speaker 5>shows just for me. That's what it feels like.

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01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I hope everybody feels that way.

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01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:15.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure a lot of them do.

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01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:18.199
<v Speaker 6>Even from like a selfish perspective. I kind of you know,

2082
01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.159
<v Speaker 6>it does wonders for me too, And that's really like

2083
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:24.000
<v Speaker 6>what inspires me to even do research for shows like

2084
01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:27.279
<v Speaker 6>this in the first place is because I want to know, right,

2085
01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:29.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, and fully, like when else are you ever

2086
01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:32.479
<v Speaker 6>going to like have a couple of hours to sit

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01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:35.039
<v Speaker 6>down and like research a topic and then a couple

2088
01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:37.399
<v Speaker 6>more hours to talk about the topic. And it's like,

2089
01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:41.399
<v Speaker 6>you know, we we built a pretty awesome kind of

2090
01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:43.560
<v Speaker 6>like alley or a bridge or something like that that

2091
01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:46.760
<v Speaker 6>allows us to really go in deep on these kind

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01:48:46.800 --> 01:48:47.520
<v Speaker 6>of topics.

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01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:49.720
<v Speaker 5>Of our own personal treathouse. Dude, that's what I like

2094
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:50.199
<v Speaker 5>to call it.

2095
01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:53.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Kara said, We'll just have to bring the one

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01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:58.399
<v Speaker 6>together sometime. Yeah, I've been thinking about doing that.

2097
01:48:58.439 --> 01:48:58.840
<v Speaker 4>Actually.

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01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:02.840
<v Speaker 6>They have like a bunch of different conferences all over

2099
01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:08.920
<v Speaker 6>the world, like spiritual or UFO conferences. You always see like, uh,

2100
01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:12.840
<v Speaker 6>your girl Sarah Brestman cosme she wrote The Hypnotist Journey

2101
01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:16.520
<v Speaker 6>to Atlantis and The Hypnotist Journey to the Sphinx. I've

2102
01:49:16.520 --> 01:49:20.119
<v Speaker 6>had her on the show before. You'll see bashar at

2103
01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:24.439
<v Speaker 6>like these sort of convention Kyle style things, and so

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01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:27.319
<v Speaker 6>we may have to get involved in that.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be cool.

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01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.640
<v Speaker 6>And technically we're still babies in the spiritual world, like

2107
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:35.960
<v Speaker 6>in the Spiritual Podcast kind of you absolute, but we're

2108
01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:36.560
<v Speaker 6>gonna get there.

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01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:37.479
<v Speaker 5>That's my goal.

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01:49:37.920 --> 01:49:39.359
<v Speaker 6>It's our goal to be one of the best of

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01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:43.960
<v Speaker 6>all time whatever it comes to anything, sir, of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, all right, well yeah, we'll we'll get to

2113
01:49:46.199 --> 01:49:50.680
<v Speaker 6>that meditation right in a jiffy. But uh, sean anything

2114
01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:52.720
<v Speaker 6>else you wanted to throw in there to wrap it

2115
01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:53.479
<v Speaker 6>up for anybody that.

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01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't want to, I'm just grateful, you know, to the one,

2117
01:49:57.439 --> 01:49:59.359
<v Speaker 5>and you know, to you guys here for the live

2118
01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:01.479
<v Speaker 5>You know that you guys take time out of your

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01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:03.680
<v Speaker 5>day to listen to us try to figure things out,

2120
01:50:03.720 --> 01:50:05.000
<v Speaker 5>and just thank you guys.

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01:50:05.800 --> 01:50:07.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, look, and if anybody wants to be able

2122
01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:10.159
<v Speaker 6>to come and join the conversation next week or in

2123
01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:12.800
<v Speaker 6>any future weeks, just go to patreon dot com slash

2124
01:50:12.840 --> 01:50:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Meta Mysteries that link is down the show notes of

2125
01:50:14.680 --> 01:50:16.600
<v Speaker 6>every episode is the best way to be able to

2126
01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:18.520
<v Speaker 6>support us. It's completely commercial free. You be able to

2127
01:50:18.520 --> 01:50:20.239
<v Speaker 6>slide into our dms and you'll be able to come

2128
01:50:20.279 --> 01:50:22.640
<v Speaker 6>hang out with us every Wednesday night for Wonder Wednesday,

2129
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:25.359
<v Speaker 6>and you get all the video access. So we do

2130
01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:27.039
<v Speaker 6>have YouTube. You'll be able to go check it out

2131
01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:30.159
<v Speaker 6>on YouTube whenever it releases. Everywhere but Patreon, you're always

2132
01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:33.279
<v Speaker 6>going to get more faster direct access to those without

2133
01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:37.119
<v Speaker 6>commercial interruptions. So yeah, other than that, we're gonna wrap

2134
01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:40.079
<v Speaker 6>it up right there. And I guess what we can

2135
01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:42.720
<v Speaker 6>say is that if the Damon came here and he

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01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:45.000
<v Speaker 6>taught you anything, it's.

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01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:48.560
<v Speaker 4>That you don't know what you don't know. So I'll

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01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.199
<v Speaker 4>just get weird, stay.

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01:50:50.880 --> 01:51:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Weird, side every color, swell the stars in line in.

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<v Speaker 5>The mysteries your far Yeah, buddy, hmm. I like how

2141
01:51:11.800 --> 01:51:14.359
<v Speaker 5>we uh, we come out of meditation and away from

2142
01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:21.079
<v Speaker 5>our higher self and we're already vaping, like instantly back

2143
01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:27.119
<v Speaker 5>to our physical attachments, you know, I know, damn it. Yeah, well,

2144
01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:30.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, whatever, we're working on it. We'll quit one

2145
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:32.680
<v Speaker 5>day today, It's just not that day.

2146
01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:37.079
<v Speaker 6>Two days, sir. Yeah, I tell you what, though, they're like, man,

2147
01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:39.000
<v Speaker 6>that was a really uh that was a really good

2148
01:51:39.079 --> 01:51:41.199
<v Speaker 6>one because it had been a minute since I had

2149
01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:43.960
<v Speaker 6>meditated because the last show that you know, I did,

2150
01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:47.760
<v Speaker 6>we couldn't get together. It was already really late whenever

2151
01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:49.800
<v Speaker 6>we were gonna whenever I was planning on us doing

2152
01:51:49.800 --> 01:51:51.479
<v Speaker 6>a show, so I had to run it by myself.

2153
01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:54.279
<v Speaker 5>So uh, I felt like that show came out great

2154
01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:56.640
<v Speaker 5>and exactly how it was supposed to be, you know,

2155
01:51:56.720 --> 01:51:57.680
<v Speaker 5>but that's just my opinion.

2156
01:51:58.239 --> 01:52:01.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, I appreciate that. It's uh, it was. It was

2157
01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:04.039
<v Speaker 6>kind of nerve wracking doing the show by myself like

2158
01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:06.279
<v Speaker 6>that because it's been so long since i'd done one,

2159
01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:09.600
<v Speaker 6>like just not having anybody to bounce ideas off of

2160
01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:11.000
<v Speaker 6>and stay right, No.

2161
01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:13.640
<v Speaker 5>You did good, dude, you did good. You always kill.

2162
01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:16.479
<v Speaker 6>It, thank you sir. But yeah, so I didn't even

2163
01:52:16.520 --> 01:52:18.159
<v Speaker 6>do a meditation in that one because I was already

2164
01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:18.880
<v Speaker 6>so damn tired.

2165
01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:19.119
<v Speaker 5>Dude.

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01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:20.479
<v Speaker 6>It was like two thirty in the morning by the

2167
01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:21.680
<v Speaker 6>time I got done shooting that one.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude.

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01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:26.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was a long one. But this, yeah, this

2170
01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:28.760
<v Speaker 6>felt really good to go into a meditation, I tell

2171
01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:32.359
<v Speaker 6>you what, dude, Like I wasn't even trying to really

2172
01:52:32.439 --> 01:52:34.920
<v Speaker 6>figure anything out. Like I was just like, let me

2173
01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:37.680
<v Speaker 6>go in and just unplug for a minute and just

2174
01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:41.760
<v Speaker 6>like be dude, just be nothing for twenty minutes.

2175
01:52:42.359 --> 01:52:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you don't have to steer the ship, dude, just

2176
01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:47.840
<v Speaker 5>kind of let it, let it present itself. That's my favorite.

2177
01:52:48.039 --> 01:52:50.479
<v Speaker 6>However, once I got there, of course I had some questions,

2178
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:55.640
<v Speaker 6>and uh so I was like, all right, I'm calmed

2179
01:52:55.720 --> 01:52:58.399
<v Speaker 6>all the way down now that I should be able

2180
01:52:58.439 --> 01:53:00.960
<v Speaker 6>to talk to the damon or to the higher self

2181
01:53:01.079 --> 01:53:04.760
<v Speaker 6>right now, show me what that is. And of course

2182
01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:07.159
<v Speaker 6>I had some you know, more personal kind of questions,

2183
01:53:07.159 --> 01:53:09.239
<v Speaker 6>which whatever, I don't really care. You know, I can,

2184
01:53:09.319 --> 01:53:11.840
<v Speaker 6>I can divulge personal shit. I don't really care what anybody.

2185
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:12.439
<v Speaker 5>You know.

2186
01:53:12.840 --> 01:53:15.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm not worried about judgment of any sorts. Y'all know

2187
01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:18.399
<v Speaker 6>my life is crazy. But yeah, I was kind of

2188
01:53:18.479 --> 01:53:20.399
<v Speaker 6>just going in. I was like, all right, you know,

2189
01:53:20.720 --> 01:53:24.479
<v Speaker 6>like because I think everybody's really on there, everybody wants

2190
01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:28.279
<v Speaker 6>to find like their person, you know what I'm saying.

2191
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:30.199
<v Speaker 6>And I'm kind of at a point in my life

2192
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:31.840
<v Speaker 6>right now where I'm just like, you know what, dude,

2193
01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:37.319
<v Speaker 6>I just really like not even worried about that, and

2194
01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:39.319
<v Speaker 6>so that was kind of like, you know, what I'd

2195
01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:41.520
<v Speaker 6>gotten I was. It was just more so like don't

2196
01:53:41.520 --> 01:53:44.199
<v Speaker 6>even I don't even worry about anybody, don't worry about

2197
01:53:44.239 --> 01:53:47.560
<v Speaker 6>anything or anything like that. Like, just keep doing what

2198
01:53:47.600 --> 01:53:50.840
<v Speaker 6>you're doing and kind of try and figure out how

2199
01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:54.119
<v Speaker 6>to balance the self, and then whenever that time comes,

2200
01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:55.199
<v Speaker 6>it'll be the time, you know.

2201
01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:57.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that's how it works. Man. You know,

2202
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:00.359
<v Speaker 5>when I when I met my wife, was at a

2203
01:54:00.399 --> 01:54:02.039
<v Speaker 5>point due where I was just kind of doing my

2204
01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:04.399
<v Speaker 5>own thing, you know, and I just kind of stopped

2205
01:54:04.439 --> 01:54:06.479
<v Speaker 5>looking for somebody and all of a sudden, dude, out

2206
01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:09.079
<v Speaker 5>of nowhere, if fate would have it, you know, just

2207
01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:10.920
<v Speaker 5>the way that it even, just the way that it happened,

2208
01:54:10.920 --> 01:54:14.960
<v Speaker 5>it was just kind of unusual anyways. But but yeah,

2209
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:17.520
<v Speaker 5>I think that's when when the magic happens, when you

2210
01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:20.239
<v Speaker 5>when you stop trying so hard, you know, just let

2211
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:23.439
<v Speaker 5>it happen. Man. Yeah, whatever whatever happens.

2212
01:54:23.239 --> 01:54:25.319
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna have to tell that story sometime, because that

2213
01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:27.520
<v Speaker 6>was a crazy series of events that happened.

2214
01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:30.439
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, at some point I guess it will. But yeah,

2215
01:54:30.479 --> 01:54:32.399
<v Speaker 5>just the way that it happened, dude, was just like,

2216
01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:35.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, you couldn't have I couldn't have planned that,

2217
01:54:35.800 --> 01:54:38.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, just the timing, talk about divine time and

2218
01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:42.039
<v Speaker 5>how it played out, and so yeah, dude, just uh

2219
01:54:42.600 --> 01:54:44.800
<v Speaker 5>just chill out, you know, chill let it be.

2220
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah baby.

2221
01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:48.399
<v Speaker 5>Another thing another thing that.

2222
01:54:48.399 --> 01:54:51.560
<v Speaker 6>I noticed too, was so I got to a point

2223
01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:53.680
<v Speaker 6>after that to where I was like, all right, because

2224
01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:57.560
<v Speaker 6>they always say that whenever you're meditating, try and like literally,

2225
01:54:57.640 --> 01:55:00.439
<v Speaker 6>like with your physical eyes, try and look at your.

2226
01:55:01.800 --> 01:55:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I never do that. I love doing it.

2227
01:55:03.920 --> 01:55:07.359
<v Speaker 6>It's because it's pretty awesome because I almost feel like

2228
01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:09.359
<v Speaker 6>it secretes a little bit more when you do it.

2229
01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:12.479
<v Speaker 5>In my mind, I don't know, you believe that's what's happening.

2230
01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:15.239
<v Speaker 6>I feel like my eyes pointing in that direction is

2231
01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:16.159
<v Speaker 6>almost like.

2232
01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:18.279
<v Speaker 5>Debating it, Like, oh dude, looking at me.

2233
01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:22.279
<v Speaker 6>It's like an unlocking that door and just opening it

2234
01:55:22.359 --> 01:55:23.359
<v Speaker 6>up and seeing what's going on.

2235
01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:26.279
<v Speaker 5>But whenever I'm going in there just starts cranking on something.

2236
01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:27.640
<v Speaker 5>He's like, he's looking, you know.

2237
01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:31.279
<v Speaker 6>It's like off of Oh damn, what was the name

2238
01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:32.800
<v Speaker 6>of that Jim Carrey movie where it was like a

2239
01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:35.039
<v Speaker 6>fictional reality. I can never remember the name.

2240
01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:38.720
<v Speaker 5>Of that I have no idea. Oh, oh the Truman Show.

2241
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:39.359
<v Speaker 4>Truman Show.

2242
01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:42.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, he goes into the room and it's like

2243
01:55:42.239 --> 01:55:44.359
<v Speaker 6>people are working behind the set. He's like, oh shit,

2244
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:48.720
<v Speaker 6>you know a little bit. Yeah, it's like his little

2245
01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:53.640
<v Speaker 6>machine elves that are just like but yeah, it was.

2246
01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:56.159
<v Speaker 6>It was pretty cool. And what I noticed was is like,

2247
01:55:56.279 --> 01:55:58.760
<v Speaker 6>whenever you really focus on that and you're just trying

2248
01:55:58.760 --> 01:56:01.800
<v Speaker 6>to like physically look at dude, I almost was like

2249
01:56:02.319 --> 01:56:05.880
<v Speaker 6>I could see a little like snake symbolism with that,

2250
01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:09.079
<v Speaker 6>because if you think about it from your point of view,

2251
01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:11.920
<v Speaker 6>from where your eyes are and you're looking up, it

2252
01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:14.760
<v Speaker 6>almost looks like a snake head that's pointed down.

2253
01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:18.279
<v Speaker 5>So fucking weird. We saw the same thing. Really, I

2254
01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:20.079
<v Speaker 5>thought that, but I was like, that's kind of weird.

2255
01:56:20.119 --> 01:56:22.359
<v Speaker 5>And then I started to like just let go and

2256
01:56:22.439 --> 01:56:25.560
<v Speaker 5>let things happen. But I saw like the little you

2257
01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:27.199
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, I don't know, but I had

2258
01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:27.880
<v Speaker 5>the same thought.

2259
01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:30.039
<v Speaker 6>Wow, I sent that over to you.

2260
01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:32.720
<v Speaker 5>It was like it was like a like, I don't know,

2261
01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:35.760
<v Speaker 5>almost like the face, but it was real big, you know, yeah.

2262
01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:39.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like almost like a copper head kind of snake head,

2263
01:56:39.319 --> 01:56:43.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, yeah, like a wide head and it's looking

2264
01:56:43.880 --> 01:56:46.199
<v Speaker 6>down at you this way as you're looking up at it.

2265
01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:49.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a trip. Holy shit, What are the chances?

2266
01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:52.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't know we're connected? Dude? Up, but then we

2267
01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:53.680
<v Speaker 5>all are, you know.

2268
01:56:53.880 --> 01:56:55.119
<v Speaker 6>Eh, we're all one anyway.

2269
01:56:56.520 --> 01:56:58.399
<v Speaker 4>All Right, Well, I guess you know, we can probably

2270
01:56:58.439 --> 01:56:59.399
<v Speaker 4>wrap it up there.

2271
01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:02.800
<v Speaker 6>And uh yeah, I think we're we're We actually have

2272
01:57:02.840 --> 01:57:05.119
<v Speaker 6>another show tomorrow night. It's not gonna be a live show,

2273
01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:09.439
<v Speaker 6>but who it was gonna be something somebody is so interesting?

2274
01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:10.279
<v Speaker 5>Who was that?

2275
01:57:11.079 --> 01:57:14.279
<v Speaker 6>Oh that's right, We're getting somebody on to talk about

2276
01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:20.439
<v Speaker 6>his psychedelic journeys with iboga or I'm a gain as

2277
01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:23.199
<v Speaker 6>some people call it. But oh okay, which is essentially

2278
01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:27.560
<v Speaker 6>it's like, dude, it's like ayahuasca, but way more intense,

2279
01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.319
<v Speaker 6>and but it's for people that like have addictions.

2280
01:57:31.840 --> 01:57:34.039
<v Speaker 4>So he's gonna be coming on, dude.

2281
01:57:34.159 --> 01:57:36.319
<v Speaker 6>He's just he seems like one of the more fascinating

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<v Speaker 6>kind of guys because he's like, I I went through

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01:57:39.359 --> 01:57:41.720
<v Speaker 6>some ship and then I've seen some shit, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, yeah, yeah yeah, And so.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like an iboga shaman. Oh wow, dude, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be a good.

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<v Speaker 5>More intense than ayahuasca.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, yeah, because it beats you up while you're

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<v Speaker 6>in there. Oh no, yeah, dude, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 6>about like, I'm not six hours of getting your ass kicked.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm happy. I'm happy. I don't have any crazy addictions

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<v Speaker 6>like that. Maybe I can go there for nicotine. That

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<v Speaker 6>probably be a good idea.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you do have an addiction, then, yeah, that'd

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01:58:12.359 --> 01:58:14.760
<v Speaker 5>be good to be enlightened on. Dude, you know, because

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<v Speaker 5>I you know, food, nicotine, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, dude, that's what all the all the I begain

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01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:22.520
<v Speaker 6>users like that, all the people who have you know,

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01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:26.359
<v Speaker 6>gone through the ceremonies. It's literally for that. And they say, dude,

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<v Speaker 6>once you come out like it's nothing to kick hero

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01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:32.920
<v Speaker 6>it's nothing to kick coke or meth or any of

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<v Speaker 6>these like real bad maybe yeah, pain pills, whatever it is,

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01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:40.479
<v Speaker 6>it's like it becomes so clear and like they say,

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01:58:40.520 --> 01:58:42.840
<v Speaker 6>because I believe that there's a whole purging kind of

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<v Speaker 6>situation going on at the same time too, because most times,

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<v Speaker 6>and I've been around people who were, you know, like

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01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:52.920
<v Speaker 6>people close to me that were addicted to heroin or

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<v Speaker 6>addicted to meth or addicted to alcohol or and shit

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<v Speaker 6>like that and it's so dude, it sucks because it

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01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:03.720
<v Speaker 6>takes over that person, you know, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>whenever you're trying to clean up from that, dude, those

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01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:09.239
<v Speaker 6>people have to go through literal pain and agony when

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<v Speaker 6>especially like off a heroin for sure, whenever you're yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>because you almost gotta fucking put them like in a

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<v Speaker 6>straight jacket and a padded room for two weeks, and

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01:59:19.199 --> 01:59:21.920
<v Speaker 6>it's like that much hell is going on whenever you're

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<v Speaker 6>trying to get off of it. And they say, once

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<v Speaker 6>you do ebogo literally one time, the next day the

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<v Speaker 6>addiction's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, it's like that into ship dude. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it's in size the demon man.

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<v Speaker 6>Fuck that demon hands dude. So yeah, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 6>that conversation tomorrow and that should be uh by the

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<v Speaker 6>weekend at some point, probably Friday, I would imagine, for

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<v Speaker 6>all the Patreon users anyway, everybody else, y'all gotta wait.

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<v Speaker 4>Till one day.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just a little bit, you know, you know, but

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<v Speaker 6>our alright, well, yeah, I guess we'll wrap it up

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<v Speaker 6>there and we will.

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<v Speaker 5>See y'all on the flip side, bye, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Voices Drift on winds untained where it's like spells that

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<v Speaker 1>can't be named.

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<v Speaker 2>Close your eyes and feel.

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<v Speaker 3>The sound journey where no bounds are found.

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<v Speaker 2>Open doors inside your mind, leave the ordinary farm behind

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<v Speaker 2>the color swell and stars line in the mental mysteries,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find
