WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:11.519 From border to border across the Commonwealth of Kentucky. This 2 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:16.640 is Big Blue Insider. Talk to Tick Gabriel. Call eight 3 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:20.280 five nine two eight zero cats that's eight five nine 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:23.440 two eight zero to two eight seven. Or state wide 5 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:27.359 that's one eight hundred six oh six game. That's one 6 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:30.839 eight hundred six oh six four two sixty three. Or 7 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.240 you can tweet the show that's Big Blue Insider one. 8 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:36.119 Now here's Tick Gabriel. 9 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.920 Hell, everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia megaplexis is 10 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:43.679 Dick Gabriel. It is the state wide edition of the 11 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:47.039 Big Blue Insiety. You've heard comments from Mark Stoops and 12 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:51.200 Mark Pope had a lot to digest this Thanksgiving week 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.119 and now Aaron Gershawan and I are running the anchor 14 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:56.920 leg Billy Rutlich as the night off. Somehow somebody lift 15 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.560 the door unlocked Old Robinson sitting in be a part 16 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:01.159 of the state. Why BBI. 17 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:06.879 Order to order? 18 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:09.439 It is the Big Blue Sider, Dick Gabriel, Aaron gershah 19 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:14.280 on Bill Robinson pushing all the right buttons. And this 20 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.560 is when a guy like Aaron Gershan and yours truly 21 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:21.159 we double up covering football and basketball and let us 22 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.200 start with football. You heard comments from Marks who was 23 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:27.280 similar to what he said today at the media is 24 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.840 a weekly press conference. How surprised because we kind of 25 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:33.280 joked about it a minute. We roll up there eating 26 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.680 our chicken sandwiches. Who's going to ask the question about 27 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.599 starting QB and will he say anything different from what 28 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.920 he has said through the years, because circumstances had changed 29 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:47.280 off and all the Brocks injuries and things like that, 30 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.079 and he flat out said got her starting. Yeah. 31 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:53.560 I was pretty shocked in a good way, though. I'm 32 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:55.959 glad at first. It's good for the fans who do 33 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:58.319 playing to brave the element. It's gonna be a cold 34 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:01.159 one there at Croverfield, Saturny and have that to look 35 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.319 forward to because Cutter has shown a lot. I know 36 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.680 Murray State wasn't the greatest opponent opponent and they didn't 37 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.879 score any points with him on the field. Against Texas, 38 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:11.120 they had a chance and missed the field goal. But 39 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:14.280 he showed you a lot to be excited about in 40 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.240 that game. Some of the throws he made. He wasn't 41 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:19.479 fazed by the pressure. I mean we were talking off 42 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.120 air before he started. The sequence I was most impressed 43 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.080 with was first play of the day for him, he 44 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.319 took a big sack, like, not just in terms of 45 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:31.000 yards loss, but he got hit pretty hard. 46 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:32.879 And could not get I mean, I'm watching him and 47 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.000 I'm thinking, get away, get it. There's no way he could. 48 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:36.800 No, he couldn't have. There were a couple where he 49 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.360 held on the ball too long, not that one. That 50 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.080 one he just got blitzed. 51 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.360 And somebody who had a swing and a miss up front. 52 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.919 That's right. And then the very next play stands up 53 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:46.639 in the pocket and throws a perfect go ball to 54 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:48.879 barry On and picks up forty two. It's like okay, 55 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:50.280 And then I think it was like a couple of 56 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:51.919 plays later he had the thirty eight yard or to 57 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.879 Jimori that got called back for a hold. So I 58 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:56.680 thought he did a lot of good things and deserved 59 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:58.520 the start. And I'm glad that Mark Stoops, you know, 60 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.319 gave that clarity to the fan base. 61 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.000 The Jamori play, I think would have put him close 62 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:04.520 to two. 63 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.960 Hundred yards and they would have been at the twelve 64 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:12.319 yard yeah. I mean they might have scored it actually time, 65 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:13.520 but at least hopefully three. 66 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:15.639 Yeah. Put pressure on him. Yeah, And you know what, 67 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:19.759 Jeff Coorl pointed out that if the arc of the 68 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.919 ball was not quite what it was, if it had 69 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.520 been a little more a little flatter to Burrian, he 70 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:26.360 hits him in stride and that's seven. Yeah. 71 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:30.000 Yeah, so there's still things obviously true freshman, so still 72 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:31.759 things to work on. Again, he held on to the 73 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:35.080 ball too long a couple of times. But unlike look Brock, 74 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.879 Vandergriff has been through a lot this series. A tough kid, 75 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.360 but you could tell really since honestly since the South 76 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:44.240 Carolina game, the pressure has gotten to him and he's 77 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.080 gotten rattled. I don't think he necessarily happy feed. Yeah, yeah, 78 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.280 a little happy feet. I don't think he necessarily anticipated 79 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.319 the offensive line struggling the way it has to be. 80 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.479 Frank and you could tell each especially now that he's 81 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.159 banged up. I would think he's still banged up, just 82 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:02.080 based on what we've seen. The happy feats even worse. 83 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.520 He was rattled against Murray State, so you can imagine 84 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.719 he didn't look comfortable for most of that game against 85 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.719 Texas and Cutter Bowley was taking hits. He was under 86 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.639 the arrest, but he never looked uncomfortable, and you. 87 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.600 Know it was Murray. I get it. But I think 88 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.639 because Brock was struggling the way he was, he would 89 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.319 latch onto Dane Key. That's what lock in on him 90 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.240 and was his favorite target. And why not? 91 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:27.879 Sure? 92 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:32.560 But Cutter through how many different receipts. 93 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.399 Yeah, I mean the Murray State game five or six 94 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.439 and then this game, I mean Willie Rodriguez had three, 95 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:42.439 Dane had two, with three or two or three with 96 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.279 with Cutter. Barryon obviously had when Fred Ferrier had a 97 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:49.360 big first third down not in Texas, but he had 98 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.040 two touchdowns to Murray Murray, that's right. So you know 99 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.319 he's spreading the ball around. Yeah, there's Look, I think 100 00:04:57.839 --> 00:04:59.720 part of that is Brock Vandergriff. Part of that's lack 101 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.079 of play East. Part of that's not trusting the past game. 102 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.199 But you know, Cutter looks a lot more comfortable and 103 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:07.120 he deserves this start, and I'm glad Mark Stoops has 104 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:07.720 given it to him. 105 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.639 The question I have is his reads. You know, sure, Uh, 106 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.680 they'll Louisville is gonna throw a lot at him. I'm 107 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.360 sure Texas did too. In terms of defense. Uh, You've 108 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.600 got to wonder by now, I guess Texas has probably 109 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.800 shown everything it has were they I was going to say, 110 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.360 you know, maybe they held back as A and M 111 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:29.040 was next. I doubt that, but you know, going through 112 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.319 your progressions, not making a bad play versus trying to 113 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.959 force something. We were just talking about Will Levis, who 114 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.800 you know, let's face it, try to force things once 115 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.600 in a while. Yeah, but you know, I haven't seen 116 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:42.680 it yet from Cutter Bowling. 117 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.319 No, not at all, So you know, I'm sure it'll 118 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.680 happen if it gets picked or not in this game here, 119 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:53.600 just first first time, that's right. Yeah, I guess that 120 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.399 would be forcing something, but the score kind of dictated 121 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.360 what he had to do too, so it was there 122 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.680 was a lot to like there, and he's deserving the start. 123 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:02.879 Now. 124 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.279 The one thing I'm curious is the elements are going 125 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.079 to be tough for It goes both ways, but specifically 126 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.800 when talking about Cutter because he's not a very mobile 127 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.720 guy as far as a runner, Like, how many opportunities 128 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.160 is he really going to have to show off that 129 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.519 arm in this game and how heavily are they going 130 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.480 to be relying on the ground game because Louisville, even 131 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:22.800 when Kentucky the last two years has struggled to run 132 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.959 the ball consistently. They've been able to run on Louisville because, 133 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.879 as we were talking again off the air, the size 134 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.600 on the in the trenches between those two teams, there's 135 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.839 a big difference because the leagues, it is what it is. 136 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.639 Doesn't mean that Louisville can't beat Kentucky, doesn't mean Louisville's 137 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.240 not a good team, but the size in the trenches 138 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.199 is different. In Kentucky, even when they had one of 139 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.920 the worst off run offenses in college football in twenty two, 140 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.160 was able to manage stuff on the ground. And last 141 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.120 year when they were I think, I know Ray Davis 142 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.040 had a really good year, but overall they were like 143 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.000 in the nineties and run offense. They ran all over them, 144 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.079 so can they do it again? But ran over them 145 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.240 in the latter stages because I went back. Yeah, it 146 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.480 took some time, it did. Yeah, they Almos scored seven 147 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:02.279 points in the first half. 148 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.279 Yeah, Louisville went all in, pushed all its chips in 149 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:08.639 the middle of the table. Ray Davis, you are not 150 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.040 going to run all over us, and he did not 151 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:14.199 until late in the third quarter. He finally broke loose 152 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:19.439 a couple of times Devon quarterback Devan Larry. Devon Larry 153 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:21.839 made a cut, hit him with a couple of nice passes, 154 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:23.759 and except for the one pick he through. 155 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:25.439 Devan Larry had. That was the best team he played. 156 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:31.079 It really was, and that loosened things up. So my 157 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.560 next question was, have you watched Louisville play this much? 158 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:34.720 Is the d line? 159 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:35.600 Uh? 160 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.680 Similar to what it was last year? I've watched him. 161 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.959 I don't know about personnelity like Jilatti. Yeah, a lot 162 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.439 of his household names are still back. So it's as 163 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:46.959 a veteran group, you know, it's a very the rosters 164 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.399 really on both sides, but Louisville it's almost like they're 165 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.639 playing the same team. Defensively, the big difference is quarterback 166 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:55.680 and running back for Louisville are better. Honestly, this year, 167 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.639 I'm running back. The freshman's playing out of his mind. 168 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.759 His name slipping me right now, but I think it's 169 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.000 Isaac Brown. Yes, but they had two good running backs 170 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:05.720 last year, so I shouldn't say it was a drop off. 171 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:08.319 The two guys were drafted in the backfield. But Jake 172 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:10.480 Jack Plumber, the kid last year was kind of up 173 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.439 and down. This shower kid. Since he stayed healthy, he's 174 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.000 been really good. Bros Are talking about it, bros Are 175 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.519 talking about him as a late round pick, so he's 176 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.160 you know, it's a different offense for Louisville. I think 177 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:24.360 it's an improved offense, but I think defensively it's a 178 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:25.000 lot of the same. 179 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.439 It is a puzzling Louisville team. And again we talked 180 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.440 about this earlier today at lunch, where it just seems 181 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.480 to be like like with a you know, coming out 182 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.200 of a of a bye week can be a stoops thing. 183 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.919 He's had trouble, yes, and some of that depends on 184 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.399 who they're playing, of course, but Louisville every year drops 185 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.399 one that just makes you rub your chin, like what 186 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.320 are they doing in Stanford? You know? 187 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:51.919 And that way? 188 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:55.200 And then they turn around and destroyed a decent Pittsburgh. 189 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:56.799 Right, and I think was it I think they had 190 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.559 a I think that, Yes, I think wasn't Louisville coming 191 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.799 off about I'm trying to think was plumbs in their 192 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.200 game right before Stanford for them might have been I 193 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:05.639 don't know if they had a game in between that, 194 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.919 Like that's a crazy three weeks to win at death 195 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.799 Valley where you know their credit. Not many teams went 196 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.639 down there and then to go and lose to three 197 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.559 and eight Stanford in front of two people and then 198 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.679 lose and then crush pit. Yeah, and the way they 199 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.440 But that's what I was trying to find is. I know, 200 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:26.000 remember at Purdue when Jeff browm they beat the heck 201 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.240 out of Ohio State. Yeah, I'm trying to I think 202 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:29.559 they lost their next game. 203 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:32.759 Yeah, we talked about that today. They lost. I think 204 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:33.559 a bad eye with. 205 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:34.840 Yeah, I'm gonna find it. 206 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:38.679 Yeah, right, But you know it's interesting people Stoop's critics 207 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.679 like to say his teams are not disciplined, and you 208 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.240 can make that accusation when you look at penalties. You 209 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.600 know that's fair, I think, but you don't see them. 210 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:51.000 You did see it against Texas once actual Harrison cost 211 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.320 his team four points. Yes, is getting ready kick a 212 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:57.320 field goal and Harrison does something stupid end up scoring 213 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:02.279 a touchdown. But I think, uh, what Louisville did against Stanford, 214 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.919 I still just have to shake my head because we 215 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:06.879 all got home from the Kentucky game in time to 216 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:10.399 see that. But yeah, I think because they've got a 217 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.200 better quarterback and a better running back and and Louisville 218 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.879 put some points up. Last year against Kentucky, it was 219 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:17.519 a really good game, lan great game. 220 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:19.279 By the way. They did lose the next week to 221 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.279 a five hundred Michigan State team. Say, okay, so that's 222 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:23.240 what happened, that's. 223 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:27.279 Right, because I remember thinking that's where John how Smith was. 224 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.679 That's yes, before that, yeah, before yeah, and then they 225 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:32.480 lost two in a row Minnesota. They beat number nineteen Iowa, 226 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.000 and then they lost to in row of Minnesota in 227 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.039 Wisconsin on rank. So that's just the way it goes 228 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.159 with Brown. But yeah, last year's game was fantastic. I 229 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.039 mean that was it was kind of a bore. It 230 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:41.840 was ten to seven and a half. They're like, oh, like, 231 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.440 someone win the slock fest, and then it was just 232 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:48.600 I mean there were like three touchdowns in three minutes 233 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:51.440 or something where I forget exactly what the sequence of 234 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:53.960 I know Barry on Brown obviously the kick return touchdown 235 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.840 mixing there. I think what it was is didn't Kentucky. 236 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:00.559 I think they fell behind by ten, cut it to three, 237 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.559 then went back behind ten. Last year yeah, something like that. 238 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.679 It was just a crazy second half and a lot 239 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:05.960 of fun. 240 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.320 The only Louisville game I've missed because I had the 241 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:12.000 open heart story a couple of weeks prior. But I 242 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:16.559 remember watching that game thinking, you know, the the advantage 243 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.759 because every other time that I'm that I'm in Louisville, 244 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.600 I try to find my brother, my buddy, and oftentimes 245 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.639 they're sitting together, and more than once they said to me, God, 246 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.080 your linemen are so big, and I'm like, yeah, see sec. 247 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.480 You know, but that day in particular, it didn't seem 248 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.639 to matter as much. No, but they somehow they called 249 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.120 the right plays. As we said, Leary made good throws, 250 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:44.039 Ray made incredible runs, and they. 251 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.279 Just grounded out JJ. We made some huge. 252 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:48.759 In his hometown. 253 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.240 That's right. Yeah, So you know, they they played their 254 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.279 butts off, and that's the big question mark for me 255 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:57.559 going into it. I mean, I think they'll be motivated. 256 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:00.320 I don't think they've given up, which is encouraged. No, no, no, 257 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.399 But this is the first time since Mark Stoops's first 258 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.799 season where they're going into their last game of the 259 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.240 regular season knowing they're done after this. Twenty fourteen they 260 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.960 were they had five wins. Right twenty fifteen, they had 261 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.240 five wins. So the Louisville game was a win, and 262 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:15.480 you're in type six joins. 263 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:17.799 Both of those first two seasons they were kind of 264 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.759 spiraling in the longer they were, but they were still alive. 265 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:21.759 But they were alive. 266 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:24.679 And twenty fifteen they were twenty one zippo until Lamar 267 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:27.399 Jackson took the Hello was on our teach, Hello, my 268 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.159 name is exactly. So of course the next year they 269 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.159 beat him, yes, and the next year. 270 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:32.720 He came to lection. 271 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:35.320 I was that was one of my last games in 272 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:36.799 the stands before being in the president. 273 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:37.080 Right. 274 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:38.600 That was a shell lacking. 275 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:41.159 You know, I'll never forget what Mark Stoops said about that. 276 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.960 He had to choose his words carefully, but he said, 277 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.679 when Louisville came in in twenty seventeen and he's watching 278 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:49.879 Lamar warm up. Do you remember when he said this? 279 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.679 He said watching the sky. He said his demeanor, body language, 280 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.080 whatever you want to call it, was like you know, Stoops, 281 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.440 and Stoops made it a point say. I didn't say 282 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.360 to myself, we're gonna get beat, but he basically said 283 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:05.960 to himself, this guy is going to give us everything 284 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:06.639 he's got. 285 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.559 He was motivated, Oh, he was mad, and he had 286 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:12.279 that fight with the I think it was the linebackers 287 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:14.879 a little bit of a hot head Georgia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 288 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:16.840 so yeah, I mean, and that was the last time 289 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:19.480 Louisville's beat Kentucky. But again, this is the first time 290 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.279 they're in this situation since twenty thirteen where they know, 291 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.799 all right, this is it, season's over, we have nothing 292 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.840 after this. And I just this is their bowl game. 293 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.080 This is their bowl game, this is their state championship, 294 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:30.360 what ever you want to call it. So I am 295 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:34.399 curious to see what the mindset is, what the not motive. 296 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.320 I think they're motivated. I don't know the right word, 297 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.399 but just to see make sure there's no complacency this 298 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:42.679 see it like, play it like it is a bowl game. 299 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:44.919 I didn't see that in Austin either. No, And I 300 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:48.759 was curious because, you know, I asked myself, Look, you're 301 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:53.799 in a difficult spot. It's the most hostile road environment 302 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.320 of the season, sure more so than Florida, more Southern Tennessee, 303 00:13:58.679 --> 00:13:59.879 right up there with Georgia. 304 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:02.559 Last year, Georgia was intimidating. 305 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:04.559 Yeah that might have been a little more so because 306 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.279 it was a night but anyhow, special but Texas is 307 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:11.679 so much bigger the stadium and all uh and it's 308 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.639 seven to seven in the middle of the second quarter. 309 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:15.440 I'm looking around, going that's a bag. 310 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:17.519 And they could have And then they started giving away 311 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.399 points in the second. Oh they the third quarter an 312 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.279 average team, average offense. Theyird tied up. 313 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.639 Yeah, but they gave They gave tennis to Tennessee. They 314 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.840 gave Texas eleven points. Yes, with that stupid move that 315 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.080 took a field goal down and gave me a touchdown. 316 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:38.320 And uh and another idiot move that gave him points, 317 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.559 gave him a touchdown. It was a short field, it 318 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:45.919 was it was a when when they scored their act yeah, 319 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.960 oh yeah, yeah, they gave Yeah. All they had to 320 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.399 do is go thirty five yards for a touchdown. Plus 321 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.440 Kentucky gets inside the five I mean Wilcock season to 322 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.559 the one five, then they go straight back. 323 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:59.559 It's like the third time at the one in the 324 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:01.879 fifth time, I'm inside the five county. 325 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:02.759 In as many games. 326 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.480 While they got a break from it against Murray, yeah, 327 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.639 well as many conferences, many conference games. 328 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.639 So anyway, I'm thinking, look at all the points that 329 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:12.240 you left on the field. 330 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.840 And then gave them no opportunities that were there. 331 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:16.360 They could have. 332 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.480 They could have that should have in my opinion, if 333 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.679 everything went right. That's a tie game going to the 334 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:22.559 fourth to. 335 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.399 Say they could have carried that game into the fourth, 336 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.120 no question. And instead their defense was on the field 337 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:27.639 for so long. 338 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:29.120 And yet they still went into the fourth quarter with 339 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:30.799 a chance to cut it to one score. Yes, like 340 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.360 they were right there. They That's the thing with this, 341 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.159 That's what's so frustrating about this Kentucky team is you 342 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:38.240 watch them and you know they're not bad. They're not 343 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.279 twenty thirteen Kentucky. They're not Joker Phillips and. 344 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.600 Of Joker twenty eighteen Kentucky. But they're not twenty eighteen 345 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:46.200 or twenty better than they've shown. 346 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.559 Yeah, they're closer to what we've seen the last two years, 347 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:50.639 which is not good enough. That's given where they've been. 348 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.080 But and it's just they just are so inconsistent in 349 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.600 the offenses as well. It's worse than it wasn't twenty 350 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:59.799 two calling it what it is, it is, it's worse. 351 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.440 Got they got o line issues that they may never 352 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:05.159 really fully able to fix because of injury. 353 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.080 Yeah, and then really, again, I do sympathize the one 354 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.399 thing I do sympathize with is Bush Hampden. He like 355 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.720 in this day in Asian college football, these coordinators handpicked 356 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:19.159 their rosters. They and Hampden was just said, this is 357 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.440 the group. Yeah, and I'm not. And that's not to 358 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.639 diminish you know, Brock Vandergriff, Jamorry Macklin, Gerald MINSI the 359 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:28.519 guys were brought in. It's just maybe again, look at 360 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:32.039 the quarterback or Arkansas that went from Boise State. Maybe 361 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:33.840 Bush Hampden's able to recruit him here if. 362 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.159 Yeah, and I wonder if that's why as we get 363 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:39.279 to a break, Yeah, so many times in that streak 364 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:42.200 of games where they could not get the ball across 365 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:46.360 the end zone the line the goal line that they 366 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:50.360 called for runs, run plays between the guards, between the tackles. 367 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.559 They haven't done that successfully all year long. 368 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:54.000 Nope. 369 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.000 When the other teams got you out, man, and they're 370 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.919 all you know they're gonna do is push up the field. 371 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:01.279 And that's all the one play when you're at the 372 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:03.320 one that Gavin Winz that runs really well, I don't 373 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:05.640 get why he's just completely out of the picture with that. 374 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:10.400 Because well, to me, if you bring him in there, okay, 375 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:12.240 he's going to try to power the ball into the 376 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.880 end zone, come and get it, at least with the 377 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:19.200 other quarterback, either Brock or Cutter. There's a there's a danger. No, 378 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:23.119 there's a danger, especially with Brock, that he could run wide, 379 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:25.200 that he could throw, that he could play action or whatever. 380 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.440 Gavin's like, here comes our guys, going to try to 381 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.680 run between the trickles, and that ain't gonna work. All right, 382 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:32.680 we'll step out talk a little basketball when we come 383 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.160 back by them. Of the hour, Jeppikoro joins us, and 384 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:36.960 then we're gonna find about what the Go Big Blues 385 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.279 brothers have been up to as well. Here on the 386 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:52.160 state Wide BBI. Welcome back to Gabriel, Aaron Grishan here 387 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.559 in the studio. It is the state wide edition of 388 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.039 the Big ru Insider, and we've talked a lot of football. 389 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:01.400 But Eric comments from Marks from Mark Pope tonight, Aaron 390 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:05.559 and very humble and a lot of love. Ron Mercer 391 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.640 calls in. You know, and I remember talking to Ron 392 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.640 in the hotel suite where we were down in Miami 393 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.559 when we were taping the documentary, and they just all 394 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:21.000 talked about how much fun it was. They knew how 395 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.279 good they were, obviously, and at first they didn't know 396 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.480 how Patina was gonna put everything together the same way. 397 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:28.720 We kept asking Pope, how are you going to do 398 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.920 it now? Patino, you know, he didn't even field questions 399 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.160 like that when he was here. But what did Mark 400 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.400 keeps saying to us, Well, the players will let me know, 401 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.400