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Speaker 3: Big Blue Insiety. You've heard comments from Mark Stoops and
Speaker 3: Mark Pope had a lot to digest this Thanksgiving week
Speaker 3: and now Aaron Gershawan and I are running the anchor
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Speaker 3: It is the Big Blue Sider, Dick Gabriel, Aaron gershah
Speaker 3: on Bill Robinson pushing all the right buttons. And this
Speaker 3: is when a guy like Aaron Gershan and yours truly
Speaker 3: we double up covering football and basketball and let us
Speaker 3: start with football. You heard comments from Marks who was
Speaker 3: similar to what he said today at the media is
Speaker 3: a weekly press conference. How surprised because we kind of
Speaker 3: joked about it a minute. We roll up there eating
Speaker 3: our chicken sandwiches. Who's going to ask the question about
Speaker 3: starting QB and will he say anything different from what
Speaker 3: he has said through the years, because circumstances had changed
Speaker 3: off and all the Brocks injuries and things like that,
Speaker 3: and he flat out said got her starting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was pretty shocked in a good way, though. I'm
Speaker 2: glad at first. It's good for the fans who do
Speaker 2: playing to brave the element. It's gonna be a cold
Speaker 2: one there at Croverfield, Saturny and have that to look
Speaker 2: forward to because Cutter has shown a lot. I know
Speaker 2: Murray State wasn't the greatest opponent opponent and they didn't
Speaker 2: score any points with him on the field. Against Texas,
Speaker 2: they had a chance and missed the field goal. But
Speaker 2: he showed you a lot to be excited about in
Speaker 2: that game. Some of the throws he made. He wasn't
Speaker 2: fazed by the pressure. I mean we were talking off
Speaker 2: air before he started. The sequence I was most impressed
Speaker 2: with was first play of the day for him, he
Speaker 2: took a big sack, like, not just in terms of
Speaker 2: yards loss, but he got hit pretty hard.
Speaker 3: And could not get I mean, I'm watching him and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, get away, get it. There's no way he could.
Speaker 2: No, he couldn't have. There were a couple where he
Speaker 2: held on the ball too long, not that one. That
Speaker 2: one he just got blitzed.
Speaker 3: And somebody who had a swing and a miss up front.
Speaker 2: That's right. And then the very next play stands up
Speaker 2: in the pocket and throws a perfect go ball to
Speaker 2: barry On and picks up forty two. It's like okay,
Speaker 2: And then I think it was like a couple of
Speaker 2: plays later he had the thirty eight yard or to
Speaker 2: Jimori that got called back for a hold. So I
Speaker 2: thought he did a lot of good things and deserved
Speaker 2: the start. And I'm glad that Mark Stoops, you know,
Speaker 2: gave that clarity to the fan base.
Speaker 3: The Jamori play, I think would have put him close
Speaker 3: to two.
Speaker 2: Hundred yards and they would have been at the twelve
Speaker 2: yard yeah. I mean they might have scored it actually time,
Speaker 2: but at least hopefully three.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Put pressure on him. Yeah, And you know what,
Speaker 3: Jeff Coorl pointed out that if the arc of the
Speaker 3: ball was not quite what it was, if it had
Speaker 3: been a little more a little flatter to Burrian, he
Speaker 3: hits him in stride and that's seven. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's still things obviously true freshman, so still
Speaker 2: things to work on. Again, he held on to the
Speaker 2: ball too long a couple of times. But unlike look Brock,
Speaker 2: Vandergriff has been through a lot this series. A tough kid,
Speaker 2: but you could tell really since honestly since the South
Speaker 2: Carolina game, the pressure has gotten to him and he's
Speaker 2: gotten rattled. I don't think he necessarily happy feed. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: a little happy feet. I don't think he necessarily anticipated
Speaker 2: the offensive line struggling the way it has to be.
Speaker 2: Frank and you could tell each especially now that he's
Speaker 2: banged up. I would think he's still banged up, just
Speaker 2: based on what we've seen. The happy feats even worse.
Speaker 2: He was rattled against Murray State, so you can imagine
Speaker 2: he didn't look comfortable for most of that game against
Speaker 2: Texas and Cutter Bowley was taking hits. He was under
Speaker 2: the arrest, but he never looked uncomfortable, and you.
Speaker 3: Know it was Murray. I get it. But I think
Speaker 3: because Brock was struggling the way he was, he would
Speaker 3: latch onto Dane Key. That's what lock in on him
Speaker 3: and was his favorite target. And why not?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: But Cutter through how many different receipts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Murray State game five or six
Speaker 2: and then this game, I mean Willie Rodriguez had three,
Speaker 2: Dane had two, with three or two or three with
Speaker 2: with Cutter. Barryon obviously had when Fred Ferrier had a
Speaker 2: big first third down not in Texas, but he had
Speaker 2: two touchdowns to Murray Murray, that's right. So you know
Speaker 2: he's spreading the ball around. Yeah, there's Look, I think
Speaker 2: part of that is Brock Vandergriff. Part of that's lack
Speaker 2: of play East. Part of that's not trusting the past game.
Speaker 2: But you know, Cutter looks a lot more comfortable and
Speaker 2: he deserves this start, and I'm glad Mark Stoops has
Speaker 2: given it to him.
Speaker 3: The question I have is his reads. You know, sure, Uh,
Speaker 3: they'll Louisville is gonna throw a lot at him. I'm
Speaker 3: sure Texas did too. In terms of defense. Uh, You've
Speaker 3: got to wonder by now, I guess Texas has probably
Speaker 3: shown everything it has were they I was going to say,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe they held back as A and M
Speaker 3: was next. I doubt that, but you know, going through
Speaker 3: your progressions, not making a bad play versus trying to
Speaker 3: force something. We were just talking about Will Levis, who
Speaker 3: you know, let's face it, try to force things once
Speaker 3: in a while. Yeah, but you know, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: it yet from Cutter Bowling.
Speaker 2: No, not at all, So you know, I'm sure it'll
Speaker 2: happen if it gets picked or not in this game here,
Speaker 2: just first first time, that's right. Yeah, I guess that
Speaker 2: would be forcing something, but the score kind of dictated
Speaker 2: what he had to do too, so it was there
Speaker 2: was a lot to like there, and he's deserving the start.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: The one thing I'm curious is the elements are going
Speaker 2: to be tough for It goes both ways, but specifically
Speaker 2: when talking about Cutter because he's not a very mobile
Speaker 2: guy as far as a runner, Like, how many opportunities
Speaker 2: is he really going to have to show off that
Speaker 2: arm in this game and how heavily are they going
Speaker 2: to be relying on the ground game because Louisville, even
Speaker 2: when Kentucky the last two years has struggled to run
Speaker 2: the ball consistently. They've been able to run on Louisville because,
Speaker 2: as we were talking again off the air, the size
Speaker 2: on the in the trenches between those two teams, there's
Speaker 2: a big difference because the leagues, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that Louisville can't beat Kentucky, doesn't mean Louisville's
Speaker 2: not a good team, but the size in the trenches
Speaker 2: is different. In Kentucky, even when they had one of
Speaker 2: the worst off run offenses in college football in twenty two,
Speaker 2: was able to manage stuff on the ground. And last
Speaker 2: year when they were I think, I know Ray Davis
Speaker 2: had a really good year, but overall they were like
Speaker 2: in the nineties and run offense. They ran all over them,
Speaker 2: so can they do it again? But ran over them
Speaker 2: in the latter stages because I went back. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: took some time, it did. Yeah, they Almos scored seven
Speaker 2: points in the first half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Louisville went all in, pushed all its chips in
Speaker 3: the middle of the table. Ray Davis, you are not
Speaker 3: going to run all over us, and he did not
Speaker 3: until late in the third quarter. He finally broke loose
Speaker 3: a couple of times Devon quarterback Devan Larry. Devon Larry
Speaker 3: made a cut, hit him with a couple of nice passes,
Speaker 3: and except for the one pick he through.
Speaker 2: Devan Larry had. That was the best team he played.
Speaker 3: It really was, and that loosened things up. So my
Speaker 3: next question was, have you watched Louisville play this much?
Speaker 3: Is the d line?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Similar to what it was last year? I've watched him.
Speaker 2: I don't know about personnelity like Jilatti. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of his household names are still back. So it's as
Speaker 2: a veteran group, you know, it's a very the rosters
Speaker 2: really on both sides, but Louisville it's almost like they're
Speaker 2: playing the same team. Defensively, the big difference is quarterback
Speaker 2: and running back for Louisville are better. Honestly, this year,
Speaker 2: I'm running back. The freshman's playing out of his mind.
Speaker 2: His name slipping me right now, but I think it's
Speaker 2: Isaac Brown. Yes, but they had two good running backs
Speaker 2: last year, so I shouldn't say it was a drop off.
Speaker 2: The two guys were drafted in the backfield. But Jake
Speaker 2: Jack Plumber, the kid last year was kind of up
Speaker 2: and down. This shower kid. Since he stayed healthy, he's
Speaker 2: been really good. Bros Are talking about it, bros Are
Speaker 2: talking about him as a late round pick, so he's
Speaker 2: you know, it's a different offense for Louisville. I think
Speaker 2: it's an improved offense, but I think defensively it's a
Speaker 2: lot of the same.
Speaker 3: It is a puzzling Louisville team. And again we talked
Speaker 3: about this earlier today at lunch, where it just seems
Speaker 3: to be like like with a you know, coming out
Speaker 3: of a of a bye week can be a stoops thing.
Speaker 3: He's had trouble, yes, and some of that depends on
Speaker 3: who they're playing, of course, but Louisville every year drops
Speaker 3: one that just makes you rub your chin, like what
Speaker 3: are they doing in Stanford? You know?
Speaker 2: And that way?
Speaker 3: And then they turn around and destroyed a decent Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Right, and I think was it I think they had
Speaker 2: a I think that, Yes, I think wasn't Louisville coming
Speaker 2: off about I'm trying to think was plumbs in their
Speaker 2: game right before Stanford for them might have been I
Speaker 2: don't know if they had a game in between that,
Speaker 2: Like that's a crazy three weeks to win at death
Speaker 2: Valley where you know their credit. Not many teams went
Speaker 2: down there and then to go and lose to three
Speaker 2: and eight Stanford in front of two people and then
Speaker 2: lose and then crush pit. Yeah, and the way they
Speaker 2: But that's what I was trying to find is. I know,
Speaker 2: remember at Purdue when Jeff browm they beat the heck
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State. Yeah, I'm trying to I think
Speaker 2: they lost their next game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about that today. They lost. I think
Speaker 3: a bad eye with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, But you know it's interesting people Stoop's critics
Speaker 3: like to say his teams are not disciplined, and you
Speaker 3: can make that accusation when you look at penalties. You
Speaker 3: know that's fair, I think, but you don't see them.
Speaker 3: You did see it against Texas once actual Harrison cost
Speaker 3: his team four points. Yes, is getting ready kick a
Speaker 3: field goal and Harrison does something stupid end up scoring
Speaker 3: a touchdown. But I think, uh, what Louisville did against Stanford,
Speaker 3: I still just have to shake my head because we
Speaker 3: all got home from the Kentucky game in time to
Speaker 3: see that. But yeah, I think because they've got a
Speaker 3: better quarterback and a better running back and and Louisville
Speaker 3: put some points up. Last year against Kentucky, it was
Speaker 3: a really good game, lan great game.
Speaker 2: By the way. They did lose the next week to
Speaker 2: a five hundred Michigan State team. Say, okay, so that's
Speaker 2: what happened, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, because I remember thinking that's where John how Smith was.
Speaker 2: That's yes, before that, yeah, before yeah, and then they
Speaker 2: lost two in a row Minnesota. They beat number nineteen Iowa,
Speaker 2: and then they lost to in row of Minnesota in
Speaker 2: Wisconsin on rank. So that's just the way it goes
Speaker 2: with Brown. But yeah, last year's game was fantastic. I
Speaker 2: mean that was it was kind of a bore. It
Speaker 2: was ten to seven and a half. They're like, oh, like,
Speaker 2: someone win the slock fest, and then it was just
Speaker 2: I mean there were like three touchdowns in three minutes
Speaker 2: or something where I forget exactly what the sequence of
Speaker 2: I know Barry on Brown obviously the kick return touchdown
Speaker 2: mixing there. I think what it was is didn't Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I think they fell behind by ten, cut it to three,
Speaker 2: then went back behind ten. Last year yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: It was just a crazy second half and a lot
Speaker 2: of fun.
Speaker 3: The only Louisville game I've missed because I had the
Speaker 3: open heart story a couple of weeks prior. But I
Speaker 3: remember watching that game thinking, you know, the the advantage
Speaker 3: because every other time that I'm that I'm in Louisville,
Speaker 3: I try to find my brother, my buddy, and oftentimes
Speaker 3: they're sitting together, and more than once they said to me, God,
Speaker 3: your linemen are so big, and I'm like, yeah, see sec.
Speaker 3: You know, but that day in particular, it didn't seem
Speaker 3: to matter as much. No, but they somehow they called
Speaker 3: the right plays. As we said, Leary made good throws,
Speaker 3: Ray made incredible runs, and they.
Speaker 2: Just grounded out JJ. We made some huge.
Speaker 3: In his hometown.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, So you know, they they played their
Speaker 2: butts off, and that's the big question mark for me
Speaker 2: going into it. I mean, I think they'll be motivated.
Speaker 2: I don't think they've given up, which is encouraged. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: But this is the first time since Mark Stoops's first
Speaker 2: season where they're going into their last game of the
Speaker 2: regular season knowing they're done after this. Twenty fourteen they
Speaker 2: were they had five wins. Right twenty fifteen, they had
Speaker 2: five wins. So the Louisville game was a win, and
Speaker 2: you're in type six joins.
Speaker 3: Both of those first two seasons they were kind of
Speaker 3: spiraling in the longer they were, but they were still alive.
Speaker 3: But they were alive.
Speaker 2: And twenty fifteen they were twenty one zippo until Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson took the Hello was on our teach, Hello, my
Speaker 2: name is exactly. So of course the next year they
Speaker 2: beat him, yes, and the next year.
Speaker 3: He came to lection.
Speaker 2: I was that was one of my last games in
Speaker 2: the stands before being in the president.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: That was a shell lacking.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll never forget what Mark Stoops said about that.
Speaker 3: He had to choose his words carefully, but he said,
Speaker 3: when Louisville came in in twenty seventeen and he's watching
Speaker 3: Lamar warm up. Do you remember when he said this?
Speaker 3: He said watching the sky. He said his demeanor, body language,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, was like you know, Stoops,
Speaker 3: and Stoops made it a point say. I didn't say
Speaker 3: to myself, we're gonna get beat, but he basically said
Speaker 3: to himself, this guy is going to give us everything
Speaker 3: he's got.
Speaker 2: He was motivated, Oh, he was mad, and he had
Speaker 2: that fight with the I think it was the linebackers
Speaker 2: a little bit of a hot head Georgia. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean, and that was the last time
Speaker 2: Louisville's beat Kentucky. But again, this is the first time
Speaker 2: they're in this situation since twenty thirteen where they know,
Speaker 2: all right, this is it, season's over, we have nothing
Speaker 2: after this. And I just this is their bowl game.
Speaker 2: This is their bowl game, this is their state championship,
Speaker 2: what ever you want to call it. So I am
Speaker 2: curious to see what the mindset is, what the not motive.
Speaker 2: I think they're motivated. I don't know the right word,
Speaker 2: but just to see make sure there's no complacency this
Speaker 2: see it like, play it like it is a bowl game.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that in Austin either. No, And I
Speaker 3: was curious because, you know, I asked myself, Look, you're
Speaker 3: in a difficult spot. It's the most hostile road environment
Speaker 3: of the season, sure more so than Florida, more Southern Tennessee,
Speaker 3: right up there with Georgia.
Speaker 2: Last year, Georgia was intimidating.
Speaker 3: Yeah that might have been a little more so because
Speaker 3: it was a night but anyhow, special but Texas is
Speaker 3: so much bigger the stadium and all uh and it's
Speaker 3: seven to seven in the middle of the second quarter.
Speaker 3: I'm looking around, going that's a bag.
Speaker 2: And they could have And then they started giving away
Speaker 2: points in the second. Oh they the third quarter an
Speaker 2: average team, average offense. Theyird tied up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they gave They gave tennis to Tennessee. They
Speaker 3: gave Texas eleven points. Yes, with that stupid move that
Speaker 3: took a field goal down and gave me a touchdown.
Speaker 3: And uh and another idiot move that gave him points,
Speaker 3: gave him a touchdown. It was a short field, it
Speaker 3: was it was a when when they scored their act yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, they gave Yeah. All they had to
Speaker 3: do is go thirty five yards for a touchdown. Plus
Speaker 3: Kentucky gets inside the five I mean Wilcock season to
Speaker 3: the one five, then they go straight back.
Speaker 2: It's like the third time at the one in the
Speaker 2: fifth time, I'm inside the five county.
Speaker 3: In as many games.
Speaker 2: While they got a break from it against Murray, yeah,
Speaker 2: well as many conferences, many conference games.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I'm thinking, look at all the points that
Speaker 3: you left on the field.
Speaker 2: And then gave them no opportunities that were there.
Speaker 3: They could have.
Speaker 2: They could have that should have in my opinion, if
Speaker 2: everything went right. That's a tie game going to the
Speaker 2: fourth to.
Speaker 3: Say they could have carried that game into the fourth,
Speaker 3: no question. And instead their defense was on the field
Speaker 3: for so long.
Speaker 2: And yet they still went into the fourth quarter with
Speaker 2: a chance to cut it to one score. Yes, like
Speaker 2: they were right there. They That's the thing with this,
Speaker 2: That's what's so frustrating about this Kentucky team is you
Speaker 2: watch them and you know they're not bad. They're not
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen Kentucky. They're not Joker Phillips and.
Speaker 3: Of Joker twenty eighteen Kentucky. But they're not twenty eighteen
Speaker 3: or twenty better than they've shown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're closer to what we've seen the last two years,
Speaker 2: which is not good enough. That's given where they've been.
Speaker 2: But and it's just they just are so inconsistent in
Speaker 2: the offenses as well. It's worse than it wasn't twenty
Speaker 2: two calling it what it is, it is, it's worse.
Speaker 3: Got they got o line issues that they may never
Speaker 3: really fully able to fix because of injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then really, again, I do sympathize the one
Speaker 2: thing I do sympathize with is Bush Hampden. He like
Speaker 2: in this day in Asian college football, these coordinators handpicked
Speaker 2: their rosters. They and Hampden was just said, this is
Speaker 2: the group. Yeah, and I'm not. And that's not to
Speaker 2: diminish you know, Brock Vandergriff, Jamorry Macklin, Gerald MINSI the
Speaker 2: guys were brought in. It's just maybe again, look at
Speaker 2: the quarterback or Arkansas that went from Boise State. Maybe
Speaker 2: Bush Hampden's able to recruit him here if.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wonder if that's why as we get
Speaker 3: to a break, Yeah, so many times in that streak
Speaker 3: of games where they could not get the ball across
Speaker 3: the end zone the line the goal line that they
Speaker 3: called for runs, run plays between the guards, between the tackles.
Speaker 3: They haven't done that successfully all year long.
Speaker 4: Nope.
Speaker 3: When the other teams got you out, man, and they're
Speaker 3: all you know they're gonna do is push up the field.
Speaker 2: And that's all the one play when you're at the
Speaker 2: one that Gavin Winz that runs really well, I don't
Speaker 2: get why he's just completely out of the picture with that.
Speaker 3: Because well, to me, if you bring him in there, okay,
Speaker 3: he's going to try to power the ball into the
Speaker 3: end zone, come and get it, at least with the
Speaker 3: other quarterback, either Brock or Cutter. There's a there's a danger. No,
Speaker 3: there's a danger, especially with Brock, that he could run wide,
Speaker 3: that he could throw, that he could play action or whatever.
Speaker 3: Gavin's like, here comes our guys, going to try to
Speaker 3: run between the trickles, and that ain't gonna work. All right,
Speaker 3: we'll step out talk a little basketball when we come
Speaker 3: back by them. Of the hour, Jeppikoro joins us, and
Speaker 3: then we're gonna find about what the Go Big Blues
Speaker 3: brothers have been up to as well. Here on the
Speaker 3: state Wide BBI. Welcome back to Gabriel, Aaron Grishan here
Speaker 3: in the studio. It is the state wide edition of
Speaker 3: the Big ru Insider, and we've talked a lot of football.
Speaker 3: But Eric comments from Marks from Mark Pope tonight, Aaron
Speaker 3: and very humble and a lot of love. Ron Mercer
Speaker 3: calls in. You know, and I remember talking to Ron
Speaker 3: in the hotel suite where we were down in Miami
Speaker 3: when we were taping the documentary, and they just all
Speaker 3: talked about how much fun it was. They knew how
Speaker 3: good they were, obviously, and at first they didn't know
Speaker 3: how Patina was gonna put everything together the same way.
Speaker 3: We kept asking Pope, how are you going to do
Speaker 3: it now? Patino, you know, he didn't even field questions
Speaker 3: like that when he was here. But what did Mark
Speaker 3: keeps saying to us, Well, the players will let me know,
Speaker 3: you know, and the assistant coaches, well, will let me
Speaker 3: know how to construct this, the starting five in a
Speaker 3: rotation and all that. But once the ninety six team
Speaker 3: was established, Mercer I talked to Mercer, McCarty and Anderson
Speaker 3: da at the same time, and they all just kind
Speaker 3: of chuckled at the effect that the way they played
Speaker 3: had on opposing teams. And I gotta think it's similar
Speaker 3: now the way man. You know they're going to shoot
Speaker 3: three pointers, yeah, but they don't jack it up the
Speaker 3: first time they have an open look. I mean, they
Speaker 3: run offense, and it's really pretty.
Speaker 2: Isn't it. It's it's a just a fun product to watch,
Speaker 2: it really is. And it's funny you said that though.
Speaker 2: Angrew car This morning we were talking with him and
Speaker 2: he said, it's almost a mandate for their offense once
Speaker 2: they cross half court to take the first open look yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, but yes other times and they can. What's
Speaker 2: so nice about it is they are like, yes, they
Speaker 2: want to shoot all those threes there their goals to
Speaker 2: get to thirty to thirty five a game. And market
Speaker 2: was pretty upset honestly when they I think they went
Speaker 2: like twelve for twenty five against yeah not Jackson State, Lipscump.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's not us. It's thirty five.
Speaker 3: So still scored more than one hundred, right, But like.
Speaker 2: What was so the most impressive I think five minutes.
Speaker 2: Obviously it was Duke and were just winning was big.
Speaker 2: But the most impressive aspect to that for me is
Speaker 2: they were able to finish that game. They didn't score
Speaker 2: three in the last five minutes. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if they shot one, but Kirk Churris is three with
Speaker 2: like five thirty. It was the last one they took.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe yeah, that could have been not good. It
Speaker 2: was all Andrew Carr getting in the paint and no
Speaker 2: Tago Ohway getting in the paint. So you know they
Speaker 2: can they can beat you in multiple ways. They cut
Speaker 2: like crazy, and they cut really hard and try to
Speaker 2: get open down low, and you know they're averaging over
Speaker 2: forty points in the game, over forty points per game
Speaker 2: in the paint, so you know they can beat you
Speaker 2: in multiple ways. And they run offense, they run out
Speaker 2: of bounds plays, oh, they guard, and they scout opponents
Speaker 2: like they talk. They are very much one of those
Speaker 2: teams that don't take anyone likely. Like they were talking
Speaker 2: about Jackson State being the biggest game of the year,
Speaker 2: and we all knew Jackson State was a three twenty
Speaker 2: whatever ranked Ken Palm team, like not a good team
Speaker 2: at all. And they did the same with Western today.
Speaker 2: So really impressive fun watch.
Speaker 3: So and that's not to say that Caliperry's staff didn't scout.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a different Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think what Pope does is a bit more intense,
Speaker 3: no question, and it's a deeper dive. But uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I need to ask him that, or maybe you can
Speaker 3: if you get a chance. Maybe not after a game,
Speaker 3: but pre game. I'm wondering if his philosophy, if the analytics,
Speaker 3: if the research, if whatever you want to state it,
Speaker 3: in the last five minutes of a close game, what
Speaker 3: kind of bearing, if any, does that have on your
Speaker 3: philosophy about shooting three pointers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly in that game they didn't shy away from.
Speaker 3: Because they don't think you know, not all three pointers
Speaker 3: are good shots, right, some can be bad shots. But
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that he would say, you know, they don't
Speaker 3: want to deviate from what they do. But against Duke
Speaker 3: they did because they attacked.
Speaker 2: The room and got the free throw line. They absolutely didn't.
Speaker 2: That's how they finished that game. And you know, lipscumb
Speaker 2: they scored I don't know what they felt like the score.
Speaker 2: It was in the high forties or low fifties. So
Speaker 2: they at the end of the day, this team, and
Speaker 2: they've said it before, like they'll do whatever it takes
Speaker 2: to win. We saw two great examples of that. You know,
Speaker 2: Jackson Robinson against who could not make a shot to
Speaker 2: save his life. He played great defense in that, like
Speaker 2: Mark both talked about after the game. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll go back and watch.
Speaker 3: I did too.
Speaker 2: Yep, you were right, Mark, A facing defense maybe I
Speaker 2: think he had two blocks at the small small forward position.
Speaker 2: Like a great game there. And then the next game
Speaker 2: at home, Andrew Carr I think scored two points and
Speaker 2: on five shots, and that was the game after he
Speaker 2: was the hero and he used the plus minus champ
Speaker 2: because he was able to do things defensively and rebound.
Speaker 2: So it's an unselfish group that's that does whatever takes
Speaker 2: to win. And I think that that's part of the
Speaker 2: deal with the offense. They'll do whatever it takes. They
Speaker 2: prefer it to be three heavy, but you know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they have to do it.
Speaker 3: I was in Austin, of course on Friday night. I
Speaker 3: listened to the game, but we were not in anywhere
Speaker 3: that they could bring the game up. Yeah, what did
Speaker 3: Andrew due against Jackson State, which was clearly overmatched.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't do that much in that he scored six,
Speaker 2: but well it didn't do too much offensively, should say
Speaker 2: but five rebounds, I want to say four or five assists?
Speaker 2: Like he filled up the stats sat stuff for you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the guy. I think Kobe ended up leaving
Speaker 2: leading them in points he went. Kobe went five for
Speaker 2: eight from three, and it dropped his three point average
Speaker 2: on the season.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Yeah, down to seventy four.
Speaker 3: One of the national heads was talking about this Kentucky
Speaker 3: team and an early going it's not Jackson Robinson and
Speaker 3: it's not Lamont Butler they're talking about. It's Andrew Carr.
Speaker 2: Drew Carr. How about Otago? Ohay, that's the guy I know.
Speaker 2: He's the guy who's the most steadied.
Speaker 3: Yeah to me, all right, when we come back Jeff Picor,
Speaker 3: we'll get back to basketball as well. With Jeff and
Speaker 3: with Aaron, we'll talk more Kentucky football here on the
Speaker 3: state wide edition of The Big Blue Insider. Border to Border,
Speaker 3: it is the Big Blue Sider. Did Gabrielle Are and
Speaker 3: ger Sean let us go to the celebrity highline and
Speaker 3: welcome in Jeff Piicorro and let's start a UK football network.
Speaker 3: Hello sir, We're going to attax you on both football
Speaker 3: and basketball. But Aaron and I were talking about the
Speaker 3: fact that we kind of braced ourselves for Mark Stoops
Speaker 3: saying when he was asked about quarterback, well we'll see
Speaker 3: or maybe even starting Rockingly waiting and bringing Cutter in
Speaker 3: off the bench. But h he's gonna he said, flat out,
Speaker 3: he's starting Cutter Bowley. And you've talked before, both on
Speaker 3: the air and on the Wildcat Whip podcast that we
Speaker 3: do about the importance to kind of look at the
Speaker 3: future now that the bowl game's not in play, So
Speaker 3: here's his big opportunity.
Speaker 4: Jeff, Yeah, And I think that it's even a little
Speaker 4: more than that. I mean, you have to figure out
Speaker 4: and I think he probably has who your quarterback is
Speaker 4: going to be next year? Is it gonna be Cutter
Speaker 4: Bowlie or do you bring back Brock? Or does Brock
Speaker 4: come back next year? And I think this is I
Speaker 4: think if you read between the lines, we talk about
Speaker 4: this a lot. Is because what does he also say
Speaker 4: when he kept getting grilled about you know, what do
Speaker 4: you do in the postseason? How many of these how
Speaker 4: many guys are back? And he said, well, we got
Speaker 4: to have some attrition from our team too, sure, meaning
Speaker 4: you know, some of the guys that they have have
Speaker 4: got to go elsewhere where they might have a possibility
Speaker 4: to play. And see that that's what people don't understand it.
Speaker 4: And really, Dick, you and I I think you were there,
Speaker 4: weren't you when we talked to bo Alli Yeah at breakfast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bill his dad Yeah, And Bill was saying, you know,
Speaker 5: bo had basically sat for two years.
Speaker 4: It really didn't get much playing time at all. And
Speaker 4: and basically he said, Dad, I can't do that. I
Speaker 4: want to go somewhere where I can play, and I
Speaker 4: don't care where it is, you know, I'll go, you know,
Speaker 4: wherever he and even said he'd go to Campbellsville to
Speaker 4: play if he thought he could play.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the thing is is a player, especially as a quarterback,
Speaker 4: when you're coming out of high school and years highly
Speaker 4: recruited as that, and you're sitting there and you're running
Speaker 4: the scout team every week, well, you think you're better
Speaker 4: than that, and obviously if you've got an SEC scholarship,
Speaker 4: you probably are. So you know, go find a place
Speaker 4: where you could play. And this goes for you know,
Speaker 4: everybody on that roster. Where could they go and play?
Speaker 4: And that's what Mark was talking about today.
Speaker 3: And they have the wherewithal to do that now, which
Speaker 3: is you know, the wild card now the portal and
Speaker 3: Mark talked a lot about that. But I kept asking
Speaker 3: myself through the weeks, which quarterback gives them a better
Speaker 3: opportunity at winning? And you kind of, obviously, with all
Speaker 3: due respect, you throw out the Murray State game and
Speaker 3: you've been convinced longer than I had. But watching Cutter
Speaker 3: in that environment, I was telling Aaron that that is
Speaker 3: the most hostile environment we have seen this year covering
Speaker 3: this team. And Jeff I put it up there with
Speaker 3: that Georgia game last year at night, when when Georgia
Speaker 3: was just foaming at the mouth to beat Kentucky at
Speaker 3: the lights show going. But in a way, it was
Speaker 3: even better in Austin because the stadium's bigger, you know.
Speaker 3: And yet uh, you know, and I know Brocks had
Speaker 3: his issues with injuries and the old line of struggle.
Speaker 3: Cutter stood in there even after he was sacked for
Speaker 3: a thousand yards on the first play and looked like
Speaker 3: a veteran the way he stood in there. So to me,
Speaker 3: you know, I think you owe it to your seniors
Speaker 3: to try to win the game. He gives him the
Speaker 3: best chance.
Speaker 4: I think he does. And and again we've seen time
Speaker 4: and time again other teams come in and produce a
Speaker 4: quarterback who hasn't played much and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: they played great. And it happened a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Well it's it's happened a couple of times in this
Speaker 4: Kentucky leisow that's right, you know? Fine? Did it? Was it? Bridgewater?
Speaker 2: I think a kid named Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean there's been some some guys
Speaker 4: that have done it. The thing that I liked about
Speaker 4: Cutter and Mark touched on this too, is when you're
Speaker 4: playing a guy that's and I don't want to say scared,
Speaker 4: because it's not you're not scared, but you're apprehensive or
Speaker 4: not sure of yourself, or you know, you don't talk
Speaker 4: to the other players. You don't want anybody talking to
Speaker 4: the huddle. Cutter wasn't like that. He was, you know,
Speaker 4: the guy sacked him and helped him up, and he
Speaker 4: and he was tapping you on the button and said,
Speaker 4: you know, a nice play that that's a veteran move.
Speaker 4: You know that that's what veterans do. And and he
Speaker 4: took a shot Eyton fast four times. Here's the thing
Speaker 4: you gotta look at are in this And I don't know,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if you guys have talked about
Speaker 4: this yet or not. Nobody asked in the press conference either.
Speaker 4: Texas was the best number one pass defense in the country,
Speaker 4: allowing one hundred and thirty four four yards a game, Yes,
Speaker 4: an entire game. Cutter boldly threw for one hundred and
Speaker 4: sixty and two quarters and should have had about two hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Macklin called back. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's two great plays. That one Macklin dropped the
Speaker 4: one that hit him right in the chest, and then
Speaker 4: the second one was the long catch and run all
Speaker 4: the way down to the what six or seven yard
Speaker 4: line that was called back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point, Jeff.
Speaker 2: This is the first time since twenty thirteen that they're
Speaker 2: going to go into a regular season finale knowing their
Speaker 2: seasons over. After twenty fourteen and fifteen they were at
Speaker 2: five wins, so had a chance. How do you think
Speaker 2: they're How do you expect them to come out? I
Speaker 2: think one thing that's been encouraging is this team hasn't
Speaker 2: shown too much quit, but just knowing that, hey, this
Speaker 2: is it. How do you expect with no bowl game
Speaker 2: to look forward to just something Kentucky hasn't been used to.
Speaker 2: How do you think they're going to come out? Just
Speaker 2: motivation wise?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because you know, I'm thankfully my last
Speaker 4: game years in a row, and that in the bowl game,
Speaker 4: and you had those extra time with your buddies and stuff.
Speaker 4: But it's and we talk about this all the time.
Speaker 4: Senior Day and emotions and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: But really, I think this is a game, and in particular,
Speaker 4: two guys to me have really got the show out
Speaker 4: against Louisville. And and I'm not saying this guy hasn't
Speaker 4: been great this year. And both of these guys are
Speaker 4: underclassmen who are probably coming out. But one is cornerback
Speaker 4: Max Harrison, who's still coming back, you know, from from
Speaker 4: the injury he has. I still don't think he's one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. He's closed probably ninety five percent. And the
Speaker 4: other one's Dan Walker. Because you know, Aaron, I can
Speaker 4: only I can only prepare guys to people that I've
Speaker 4: played against, because I can't compare him to Arts Still
Speaker 4: or people like that. I didn't play with those guys,
Speaker 4: but I've played against the Reggie Whites and Bruce Smith,
Speaker 4: and these are NFL Hall of Famers too, But he
Speaker 4: has been the guy that disrupts every play on a
Speaker 4: consistent basis, and I think that's what the scouts are
Speaker 4: looking for. Now. We're talking about a first round draft pick, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what some people have said. You want
Speaker 4: guys like Hutchinson, the kid that came out from Michigan
Speaker 4: last year, right that every play he's in the backfield.
Speaker 4: That's what you have to You have to have guys
Speaker 4: like Josh Allen and Josh every play he made a difference,
Speaker 4: and Mark knew that when stuff hit the fan, he
Speaker 4: could always rely on the defense because of those guys.
Speaker 4: And I just I haven't seen it on a consistent basis. Now,
Speaker 4: there's been times, and there's been plays when he's been disrupted,
Speaker 4: but I'm talking about a wrecking ball up there that
Speaker 4: you have to every time double teaming and when you're
Speaker 4: on the offensive side, you've got to know where he
Speaker 4: is an audible away from him, and we just haven't
Speaker 4: seen that this year. Mark talked about he's had some
Speaker 4: nagging injuries and stuff. I don't know what those are,
Speaker 4: but he really has to Yeah, I think he really
Speaker 4: has to get Yeah, but we don't know what it
Speaker 4: was for, is what I mean. I think he needs
Speaker 4: to come out and have a dominating performance in this
Speaker 4: game to kind of solidify himself as a as a
Speaker 4: top type draft.
Speaker 3: I completely agree with Jeff with the position and you
Speaker 3: and I talked about this preseason early season with the
Speaker 3: position he plays, you know, with his hand in the ground,
Speaker 3: either knows he's listed as a tackle or a nose tackle.
Speaker 3: His job is to command double teams so the other
Speaker 3: guys can get their jobs done. And and and then
Speaker 3: we thought, well, if those guys can play well, that
Speaker 3: gives Dion the chance to be that wrecking ball. There
Speaker 3: have been so many guys hurt around him that I wondered,
Speaker 3: you know, how effective has he been able to effectively?
Speaker 3: Has he been able to do his job this year?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I just again, I just I'm comparing him to
Speaker 4: guys that are the same. Okay, what's his name? Carter
Speaker 4: from Georgia last year, right, yeah, two years ago? That
Speaker 4: just and he was a young, young guy, much like Dion.
Speaker 4: He changed games, right, he was a game changer. That's
Speaker 4: what you expect from Dion. And again, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: he's not been good. He's been good, But this whole
Speaker 4: season has been something's wrong, something's busy. Because we said
Speaker 4: this from day one, this is outside of the quarterback spot.
Speaker 4: And you know, this is probably the best assimilation of
Speaker 4: talent that Marcus had here at one.
Speaker 3: Time except one as well.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, okay, I mean on the whole, I just
Speaker 5: don't think there's a defense that's had as much as
Speaker 5: these guys have all over the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except Harrierston gets hurt, that really hurt him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, you mentioned the portal off the top of it.
Speaker 2: Gonna have some nutrition that's needed and plenty that it's
Speaker 2: going to be added. Take out, take out the line,
Speaker 2: because we all know they need to make moves there.
Speaker 2: What's the one positional group you think they need to
Speaker 2: hit the hardest, especially if Cutter is someone you can
Speaker 2: build with that quarterback and you don't have to go
Speaker 2: through that vicious cycle of looking for a starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: Okay, starting offensive line, yeah, take.
Speaker 2: Well, take line on line, on line, but one other one,
Speaker 2: because that's the obvious, that's the easy, hundred million dollar answer.
Speaker 4: Okay, offensive line.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying is I don't need help. They
Speaker 3: don't need help anywhere else.
Speaker 2: When they're going to lose their whole starting defense.
Speaker 4: I think that you've had look up front, you've got
Speaker 4: to go. Look. You gotta remember Colil Saunders could come back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I players I think couldn't come back. This is totally
Speaker 4: out now. I know that they're but they've got some
Speaker 4: guys up there. Ja Josiah Hayes is coming back, Silver's
Speaker 4: could come back. I'm not worried about the defensive line.
Speaker 4: They've got some guys step there. Uh you know what,
Speaker 4: I guess if you're asking me what spot, I'm not
Speaker 4: throwed on the edge guys. You know what Jason was. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Freierby hasn't showed me anything this year at all. Matthews
Speaker 4: has been you know, Okay, you don't know. Souls is
Speaker 4: a nice one on the edge, but he doesn't have
Speaker 4: the size of those guys' small You know those Matthews
Speaker 4: and and Freby are both six four six and fifty pounds.
Speaker 4: You know, Souls is only like sixty three to twenty Yeah, yep,
Speaker 4: Afari is six twenty two. God three isn't a monster either.
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, when you want to know something,
Speaker 4: And Dick and I were talking about this today. I
Speaker 4: think the biggest heis is going to be missing against
Speaker 4: Louisville is Derek Jack because they don't have that hammer
Speaker 4: at linebacker.
Speaker 3: They missed him terribly.
Speaker 4: On me, especially in the outside. Because Louisville could run
Speaker 4: the football and their offensive line has gotten a lot
Speaker 4: better since Slash.
Speaker 3: Well, they didn't. They missed so many tackles against Texas,
Speaker 3: and boy did they miss d jack.
Speaker 2: There's no question about it, no question, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Before we let you go, I got to get some
Speaker 3: thoughts on basketball, and I was explaining that we were
Speaker 3: not in a position in Austin to watch the Jackson
Speaker 3: State game, but it pretty much held form with the
Speaker 3: other games. And Mark Pope talked tonight about his team,
Speaker 3: and Ron Mercer called in and I was telling Bow
Speaker 3: and Aaron that working on that documentary about the ninety sixteen.
Speaker 3: Those guys once they figured out and they started playing
Speaker 3: and they were killing everybody. Remember that they kind of
Speaker 3: chuckled at the way the other teams would see them,
Speaker 3: come like, oh my god, this press. And Pope tonight
Speaker 3: said they're not going to run the same press as
Speaker 3: Patino ran, but you know they'll throw it up there.
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is this Kentucky team just he's
Speaker 3: coming at you in waves. Whether it's the offensive execution,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 4: What I like, Dick has been what the other coaches
Speaker 4: have said about their team. I mean, Lenny Acuff's been
Speaker 4: around for a while. I mean, this guy is a
Speaker 4: really good coach, and he's coached under some big time names.
Speaker 4: And he said, this is the best power for offense
Speaker 4: he's ever seen. He goes, this is crazy. And if
Speaker 4: he's if Brea and those guys shoot like this, who's
Speaker 4: gonna beat him? I mean, you look, you look at Duke.
Speaker 4: Duke was a number six and they were a heavy
Speaker 4: favorite against Kentucky and Kentucky played okay in that game
Speaker 4: and beat him right, especially from three. They're going to
Speaker 4: get better defensively, just because they're going to learn each
Speaker 4: other as the season goes, and how they play defense.
Speaker 4: You know that that's that's the one thing. I think
Speaker 4: they're going to get better at his defense. But they
Speaker 4: have a lot of fun and they've got five or
Speaker 4: six guys that can score will as we've seen. I
Speaker 4: think the first five games had five different guys that
Speaker 4: let him in scoring. And you know, as they get
Speaker 4: more and more as a team, this is a very
Speaker 4: scary basketball team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, Jeff. Have you seen a guy do
Speaker 2: what Kobe Bray has done where he went five for
Speaker 2: eight shooting from three against Jackson State and his three
Speaker 2: point average on the season actually went down.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what Aaron I You know
Speaker 4: I did for years atlantic ten and Dayton volleyball. I
Speaker 4: did Dayton's basketball for Fox and uh, you know when
Speaker 4: when when Toppin's brother played here too, Tobe, he was yeah,
Speaker 4: he was fantastic. But yeah, they have They've always had
Speaker 4: great shooters there and he is on a long list.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if anybody that they've ever had
Speaker 4: has been as good as this kid. It's just amazing.
Speaker 4: You know what, it's not the practice that they have
Speaker 4: when the coaches are there and this is and this
Speaker 4: is something that I talked about with Kenny Brooks, the
Speaker 4: women coach too. He goes the only way to get better.
Speaker 4: And it's really cool because practice starts at let's say
Speaker 4: two o'clock. Right at one o'clock, he's got four or
Speaker 4: five young ladies out there already practicing with the coaches
Speaker 4: one on one. And basketball is the same way Marcus
Speaker 4: said it. You know, I look out my window and
Speaker 4: there's three guys out there shooting. Yeah, and practices in
Speaker 4: for three more hours. That's where you get better. And
Speaker 4: if you don't have that drive to do that, you're
Speaker 4: not going to get better.
Speaker 3: You know, you've worked at.
Speaker 4: The bottom of these guys. It seems like they have
Speaker 4: fun with each other.
Speaker 3: You've worked a handful of games already, been to shoot around,
Speaker 3: has been to practices for the women. It's tough to
Speaker 3: kind of like with Pope's team, put your finger on
Speaker 3: one thing in particular, but clearly postplay, Jeff has been
Speaker 3: as good as it's ever been since Valerie still was here.
Speaker 3: I mean, they've had some really nice point guards. I
Speaker 3: got to go back to Patty Joe Hedges to find somebody,
Speaker 3: and Stacey Reid was great, but Georgia Aymore just knows
Speaker 3: how to get it done. How do you what what's
Speaker 3: the what's the personality of this team?
Speaker 2: Do you think?
Speaker 4: Well? I I first of all, I just have to
Speaker 4: say one thing, excuse me, one thing is they're a
Speaker 4: little short on the on the bench. With the two
Speaker 4: players in and out for the season, and he had
Speaker 4: those two. I think this team could could could play
Speaker 4: with South Carolina and give them a go for the championship.
Speaker 4: I really do. They're a little short, and and the
Speaker 4: problem too is they're young on the interior. And when
Speaker 4: you're short, and what I mean short is their bench
Speaker 4: isn't real deep because they're they're the guys. The girls
Speaker 4: that are coming in are freshmen and uh, and they
Speaker 4: are girls. They're not winning yet, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: They're just young and they need to learn. They're talented,
Speaker 4: but they don't know how good they can be, you know,
Speaker 4: especially Silva. I mean she's gonna be a superstar. She's
Speaker 4: six seven and she can run the court. Again. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she just doesn't know how good she can be. You know,
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 3: She's fun to watch. They're all fun to watch. It's
Speaker 3: a great brand of basketball, both the men's and the women's.
Speaker 3: And if you haven't been, like I say, to the
Speaker 3: coliseum yet, of course, get to the insa volleyball tournament.
Speaker 3: I gotta think they're gonna go and get to a
Speaker 3: women's basketball game. You will thoroughly enjoy it. If not,
Speaker 3: sit home and watch Jeff Pcorol and Christy Thomas, Jeff
Speaker 3: Row thank you. We will see you Wednesday when we
Speaker 3: tape the podcast audio. Have a good one. Well, come
Speaker 3: back and wrap things up in just a few here
Speaker 3: on the state wide BBI, just a few minutes left
Speaker 3: with a state wide big lements that to remember Tomorrow,
Speaker 3: Kentucky basketball in most of these same stations at six
Speaker 3: point thirty, so pregame coverage on the network begins at
Speaker 3: five o'clock. Then you got women's basketball as well. The
Speaker 3: women play again on Wednesday, back to back days down
Speaker 3: in Nashville. Darren Hedrick with the car on those games.
Speaker 3: Awful lot of basketball this holiday week. I got a
Speaker 3: wonder ball and you've got the direct pipeline to the
Speaker 3: Big Blues brother Go Big Blues Brothers. They got to
Speaker 3: be having a ball right now in rep Aerena.
Speaker 6: They are having way too much fun, more fun than
Speaker 6: I could ever imagine at rapp Arena over the last
Speaker 6: few years they've been.
Speaker 3: Over the last few years they've both been around for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 6: Actually talked to one of them together. Yeah, and he
Speaker 6: said that for the first time in a long time,
Speaker 6: he's enjoying watching Kentucky basketball in November, the key month
Speaker 6: being November.
Speaker 3: Well, the U and they've posed for at least once
Speaker 3: with the Pope right for a picture.
Speaker 6: Correct, And I heard we're anny window. There might be
Speaker 6: a special Jobe Holiday card involved with the Pope.
Speaker 3: Have they presented him with a blue jacket yet?
Speaker 2: Not yet.
Speaker 6: But Tom Leach actually gave me a good ideal to
Speaker 6: pass along to the Go Big Blues Brothers. So if
Speaker 6: you get a picture, maybe let's say you're Larry Stamper
Speaker 6: or Jerry Hale or Jim Andrews, and you get a
Speaker 6: picture with the Go Big Blues Brothers, you might become
Speaker 6: an official honorary member. Oh, based on certification.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about guys that go away and the
Speaker 3: guys you just mentioned pose for a photo at a
Speaker 3: recent game. All three of those.
Speaker 6: And Jim just had a birthday, correct, So yeah, they
Speaker 6: will be celebrating Joby Hall's birthday do they always do?
Speaker 6: And then that leads us right into the Joby holidays.
Speaker 3: I seem to recall that the first time they approached
Speaker 3: Joe By at upp Arena, he took one look at
Speaker 3: them and said, I want a blue jacket.
Speaker 6: And you confirmed, Yes, I can confirm that he said
Speaker 6: I want a blue jacket.
Speaker 3: Do they have a closet full of them or do
Speaker 3: they have to go get them?
Speaker 6: My understanding is that they have a few jackets on
Speaker 6: rotation and that Elwood's dry cleaning bill has gone up
Speaker 6: significantly over the last few years.
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta think if you can win, you get
Speaker 3: an opportunity. Because Mark Pope's pulled in so many different directions.
Speaker 3: But during that postgame show, when he's talking to the
Speaker 3: fans and you know there's there's official people out there,
Speaker 3: they could probably go through some of those folks with
Speaker 3: UK and let's let let's hope they have a little
Speaker 3: bit of an open mind. Maybe if they showed them
Speaker 3: the photo of Joe b in his jacket, that might
Speaker 3: be the thing to do.
Speaker 6: That might be Aaron and I were talking about this
Speaker 6: that after the game it is a struggle to walk
Speaker 6: around the arena and get to the side where everybody
Speaker 6: gathers for the postgame show because everybody's going now, oh,
Speaker 6: verybody's sticking around crazy. I mean, it's an aggressive effort
Speaker 6: to get over that.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I was working in the photo room and
Speaker 2: I just heard probably a good thirty forty minutes after
Speaker 2: the after we were done with a press conference, and
Speaker 2: here the applause. It must have been the show ending.
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, Well, I mean our.
Speaker 3: Late grade GM at Channel twenty seven took one look
Speaker 3: at the Rick Patino postgame and we had all the
Speaker 3: delayed games because none of the games could be live,
Speaker 3: and he told us we need to carry this so
Speaker 3: we would shut the cameras off and then bring them
Speaker 3: right back up, you know, twenty minutes later.
Speaker 2: Smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you next week. I'll tell you all
Speaker 3: about the ratings. Thanks so much to Bo, to Aaron,
Speaker 3: thanks to Jeff Pecarrel that said, good night from Lexington