1 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Kalispell, Montana. 2 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,039 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:42,479 going to bring you this week's episode of Yours Truly 4 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:46,159 Johnny Dollar. But first I want to encourage you. If 5 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,200 you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite 6 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,719 podcast software. As you're making your travel plans, remember Johnny 7 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:57,399 Dollar air dot com. Johnny Dollar air dot com is 8 00:00:57,399 --> 00:00:59,960 a Priceline affiliate link, so part of the purchase for 9 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,960 supports the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio at no 10 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,280 additional cost to you. So remember when making your travel plans, 11 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,719 check Johny Dollar air dot com first. But now, from 12 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,560 June fourteenth, nineteen forty nine, here is the Wayward Sculpture Matter. 13 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: Universal Adjustment Funeral. 14 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: Hi, Frank, you've been neglecting me. 15 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they call all the trouble and saved me. 16 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,239 Speaker 4: No, I'm supposed to me. 17 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,359 Speaker 2: I haven't had the bleed of one of those fancy 18 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,599 expense accounts. 19 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: Of yours nearly a month that you cut me to 20 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,359 the quick. 21 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh sure, but no, well looks at all. 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 5: I has to take my. 23 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Neck out again. What's a problem. 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 5: Well, Johnny it's a real funny one. 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,519 Speaker 3: John Lamping already. 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,239 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I don't mean funny. 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: Ha ha, I mean funny. 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 6: Hey. 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,519 Speaker 2: You know the last time he said that, I got 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,640 John had danged on my head, nearly run over by 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,640 a truck. And I have a dozen other pleasant little 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,079 thing So come clean bad. 33 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: What is it? 34 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 5: Johnny? 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,239 Speaker 4: Maybe you've better run over here so we can talk 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:55,680 about it. 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: It'll risk okay, then I'm on my way. Bob Bailey 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,680 and the Exciting Adventures of the Man with the Action 39 00:02:11,879 --> 00:02:17,120 Pact Expensive Count America's Fabulous Free Lance Insurance Investigators. 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: True Johnny Dollar. 41 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,319 Speaker 2: Expense Accounts an Advice Special Investigator Johnny Dollar the Universal 42 00:02:41,319 --> 00:02:45,319 Adjustment Bureau Home Office, Hartford, Connecticut, following his account of 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,039 expenses encourage during my investigation of the Wayward Sculpture matter 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,879 White Kid about It Pat mc crank and has handed 45 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,000 me some pretty wild cases in time to time, but 46 00:02:59,039 --> 00:03:00,000 they've always paid off. 47 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: No spens an out of one and done. 48 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:04,719 Speaker 2: At twenty for a kid to his office at Universal Adjustment. 49 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: Girl, I sit on, Johnny, make yourself covered a figure? 50 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Oh thanks? Hey yeah, oh m hmm. Thanks. 51 00:03:21,319 --> 00:03:25,879 Speaker 2: Well, Well, Johnny, you know that one of Our big 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,479 problems is discouraging and prosecuting insurance brought not only against us, 53 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:31,919 but against the companies we served. 54 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,639 Speaker 4: Wow. So now what I've called you about is something 55 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,719 that's been going on for a long long time. Okay, 56 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,039 what kind of fraud is it? 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,159 Speaker 6: This? 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,439 Speaker 4: We never know? 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: Huh? 60 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: Look here, yeah, a while back, International. 61 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:48,719 Speaker 2: Life and Casualty is he's an envelope containing five hundred 62 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:51,439 and twenty dollars in cash and with it this note 63 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:55,800 that reads, please put this in company treasury of money 64 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,039 I took from your company on false pretensies. 65 00:03:58,159 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: Now I can have a fluor country. 66 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:05,039 Speaker 2: And it was signed debtor like spell btttp off funny. 67 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I said to you over the phone. 68 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: Here's another one, eight hundred dollars in closes the tender, 69 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:15,560 identifying himself only as a sorry sinner more content funding. 70 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. 71 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: People who collected on fraudulent claims or felt they didn't 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,920 deserve the money they collected. Nine and Johnny has been 73 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:25,079 dozens of them over the years. Most of them have 74 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,120 been small amounts undo one thousand dollars, some of. 75 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,639 Speaker 4: Them only five or ten bucks. 76 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:31,879 Speaker 2: In another word, is not worth investigating to see what 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,279 fraud they deliberated, Yes, exactly, But now look here, it's 78 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:40,560 with the payments anonymously received, all of them from the 79 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,240 same pustions eight hundred and thirty three dollars thirty four 80 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,040 cents received on July twenty first, nineteen fifty sixth rides 81 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:52,040 eight thirty three thirty four on August. 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,079 Speaker 4: Twenty third, nineteen. 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: Fifty Yeah, same ding, September twenty, same thing to twenty 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:57,959 first of every. 85 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 4: Month since, and no letter with it, only the yes 86 00:05:01,959 --> 00:05:02,839 serious to yourself? 87 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: Who's interested in serious company? 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:05,959 Speaker 4: Gentlemen? 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: This is only a beginning against the amount paid out 90 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:11,600 on me last month. Be sure that I shall make 91 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,439 full restitution if it takes five years. 92 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:16,519 Speaker 4: Good to him or her. 93 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: I hope he's coming, Johnny. 94 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: I want to know who's sends any right now? Yes, yes, yes, 95 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:23,519 not only the law but company. 96 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: Policy demands would re prostitute anyone steppating a fraud. 97 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: All the other conscience money has been in single stavements, 98 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,800 no way to trace them whatsoever. Also, the amounts have 99 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:35,720 been well negligible. 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: They've always come from the same post office. They've all 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,879 come from New York City, but from as many different 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,920 post offices as a number of famous. 103 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: That have been made. 104 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:46,959 Speaker 2: But if a man is paying up all the ch well, 105 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,279 how do we know, Johnny, how do we know he'll 106 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,040 come to his promise? Well, and we don't know who 107 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:54,199 he is, so we can't know how much he older. 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: Or for what. 109 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,079 Speaker 2: So all you want me to do is to through 110 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,759 seven million people down in New York and somehow the 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,040 one man. Oh, now, I admit it's a challenge. 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: God, it sure is. What knowing you? 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: You're right, there's only one. 114 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: Thing to do. 115 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: That's just a move up. Now listen, give me a pen. 116 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Oh all right, he said, even if it took him 117 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,879 five years, Yes, that's fifty months. And at eight thirty 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,800 three thirty four a month, there was sixty years, think 119 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:31,839 three third four fifty thousand dollars and forty cents. So 120 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,079 all right, you started in July fifty six on money 121 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,759 paid out the month before, he said, So find me 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,360 a policy where Eastern Trust and Insurance paid off fifty 123 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:45,000 thousand June of nineteen fifty. Oh, and what type of 124 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,319 policy might I ad? 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,199 Speaker 4: Life insurance? Oh? Really missed the detective? Why why you. 126 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Change those monthly payments to eight hundred and thirty three 127 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,560 dollars and thirty three and a third cent. 128 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:56,199 Speaker 4: But who was set a penny in the. 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,519 Speaker 2: Johnny, you're right, you're right, And here's that come up 130 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:00,279 to exactly. 131 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: Fifty thousand even til you like that? 132 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:04,959 Speaker 2: As usually for life insurance, Yeah, usually you'll find the 133 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,040 policy issued right Easton paid off in June fifty. 134 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:09,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a chance, Johnny. 135 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,079 Speaker 2: But let's try. 136 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:19,439 Speaker 4: And then suddenly it all began. It looked too easy. 137 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: In June nineteen fifty six, the total number of fifty 138 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,560 thousand dollars benefit paid came out to just exactly one. 139 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: On the life of Henry Davidson Pollack. 140 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: The one's being a scuffing beneficiary his wife, Sarah Norton Pollack, 141 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:35,120 and it gave her address in New York City, so 142 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:38,600 Pollack didn't really die at all, but she collected is 143 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:39,959 in sure now? 144 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:42,199 Speaker 4: Conscience fricken, She is paying it. 145 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:43,399 Speaker 3: That's what it looks like. 146 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: But it's bill fraud. 147 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: They'll go to it, Johnny. 148 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:51,639 Speaker 2: Right, expense account ad him two eight dollars in the 149 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,759 quarter train in New York, and I cared to the apartment 150 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:56,879 house at six fourteen. He's forty ninth Streets failing to 151 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:59,000 find missus Pollack's name on the mail boxes. I got 152 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,800 hold of the building, SUPERINTI this is Pollack. Sure, I said, 153 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:03,560 Polack lived. 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,759 Speaker 3: Here for years. Well where is she now? 155 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: You know you're trying to be funny. 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: What do you mean? 157 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:10,279 Speaker 6: I mean, she died last. 158 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,839 Speaker 4: Fall and it's too late. 159 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:17,199 Speaker 3: No, wait a minute, those payments are still coming in. 160 00:08:17,519 --> 00:08:20,240 But that you're sure that she's dead. I was with 161 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:21,000 her when she died. 162 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:24,639 Speaker 2: And mister, what's going on around here happens to be 163 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,240 just plain impossible. 164 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: Now, wait a minute, are. 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: We talking about the same person, the same missus Pollack, 166 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Missus Henry Davidson Pollack. 167 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: That's it, the widow the sculptor so one on. 168 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: And he lived here in his apartment too, that is 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,720 before he died. That was back in fifty six. Left 170 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:08,639 all his money, all his insurance to his wife. 171 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: Oh goodness knows why? How did he die? 172 00:09:11,639 --> 00:09:12,879 Speaker 6: And that big plane. 173 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: Crash out over the desert. 174 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,519 Speaker 3: Don't you remember? 175 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,879 Speaker 4: Not a single as survivor. 176 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: What what kind of a man was he? 177 00:09:19,639 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: Ooh if himself didn't like people much? 178 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:26,759 Speaker 2: And his wife, okay, I guess she was let younger 179 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:28,840 than him, spent all his money all the time. 180 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: He didn't like it. Man like that shouldn't be married. 181 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:33,320 Nobody must have thought a lot of it or leader 182 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,120 of everything. He just didn't like being married. Died down. 183 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Letn't interfere with his work. Oh, his death got him 184 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:39,720 out with. 185 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: And give her some money to spend before she died. 186 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:44,399 Speaker 3: But somebody's been playing that money back. 187 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:47,279 Speaker 2: Well you think maybe she suffered a change his heart 188 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:49,600 something like that. Do you think she realized she never 189 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:50,080 deserved what. 190 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,519 Speaker 3: He left it? 191 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,759 Speaker 2: That what you're thinking. Sure, that might have been a 192 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,600 possibility except for one thing. The money's still coming in. 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,879 Speaker 3: Oh, he has signed anybody to whom she might have 194 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,679 turned over. 195 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: That insurance her give anything to anybody else not. 196 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,159 Speaker 3: Herm is it? 197 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: And you're absolutely sure that she's dead. 198 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: I carried her in off the street after the car 199 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:10,320 hit her. 200 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: You don't believe me, Ask the doctor, duncan your maitland 201 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,519 o run Park Avenue? 202 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,039 Speaker 3: Ask the police? 203 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I will. 204 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: I had him three fifty cents for a phone called 205 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,559 a Patma Cracken. 206 00:10:30,279 --> 00:10:30,919 Speaker 4: Back in Hartford. 207 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: But Johnny, if it was his wife who got that money, 208 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:36,639 she wasn't the kind of pass it off to someone else. 209 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,519 Speaker 6: She'd have to be the one paying it back. 210 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: But if she's dead by last Paul, how about the 211 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,759 whole thing is impossible. 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: Damon's still been coming in. There'll probably be another one 213 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,879 plucked down on my desk by the time you. 214 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: Get back here. Now, I kind of somehow that woman 215 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:52,279 must still be alive, so finally. 216 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,399 Speaker 4: Find her chocolate. 217 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,879 Speaker 2: Why suppose by some merricle, she is still alive. 218 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:57,759 Speaker 4: Where's the fraud? 219 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,519 Speaker 2: Well, people, don't just handle the fifty thousand dollars for nothing. 220 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: Somebody's conscience is hurting. 221 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: What other possible reason could. 222 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: They be for sending that money back to us this way? Well? 223 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,159 Speaker 3: No, wait, wait just a minute. 224 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,159 Speaker 2: Right, Look, Johnny, I'll be honest with you. Maybe there 225 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,679 isn't any fraud so far as the company's concerned. But 226 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,519 you know something, Johnny, this whole crazy thing has me 227 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,360 so curious. 228 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: Now, Well, even if there isn't any insurance angle. 229 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: To it, except for the money the company keeps getting. Okay, 230 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,279 But Johnny, I want to know what this is all about, 231 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,279 and if necessary, off for your expensive compan myself. Quite well, now, 232 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,080 this is the golden opportunity I've been learning for for years. 233 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 4: Don't go over poor Johnny. Huh, but fine enough for me, 234 00:11:40,639 --> 00:11:40,919 will you. 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: Who knows, Dear pike Man, I hadn't four seventy eighty 236 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,279 five taxes that cant the doctor making No, there was 237 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,720 no question about it. A woman who had died when 238 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,600 the car stucker lasts fall was missus Henry Davidson, my 239 00:11:56,879 --> 00:11:57,720 wife and the sculpting. 240 00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: The doctor had non work of them very well. 241 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,279 Speaker 2: I checked with my old parl, Lieutenant Granby Singer at 242 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:06,840 eight Precinct Police Headquarries. He too was sure the woman 243 00:12:06,879 --> 00:12:07,360 had died. 244 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,759 Speaker 4: He'd been called in on the case. 245 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: Then I remembered something the superintendent of the apartment house 246 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,679 had said to me about the way Pollack had wanted 247 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,360 to get away. 248 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:15,799 Speaker 4: From his wife. 249 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: I went over to the New York Times and checked 250 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,200 the old newspaper file. Yes, Henry Davidson Pollack had definitely 251 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,879 been a passenger on the ill fated aircraft had perished 252 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:27,600 along the rest. I even checked the main office of 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,559 the airline and learned the same thing. So neither Taught 254 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:33,600 or his wife could possibly be sending back that money. 255 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,559 But then who could and why Doctor Nathan had mentioned 256 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,200 the little art gallery over on Third Avenue. The only 257 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,080 gallery that Pollack had ever dealt with directly. The owner 258 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,639 of the gallery was a nervous of a man with 259 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,759 any known w of vessons. 260 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:51,279 Speaker 4: No, those lister dollars strange as if we found. I 261 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:52,720 never mixed with the politar. 262 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: But I thought you were the only outlet for his 263 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:57,720 sculpture very soon, very true. But he was a man 264 00:12:57,759 --> 00:13:00,919 who said very much by himself the public eye, so 265 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,519 to speak. Yes, well, now, nevertheless you must have you see. 266 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:07,559 It was his wife who always brought his work to 267 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,240 help for me to tell, and asough was very sure 268 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,519 to collect the money for them. 269 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I doubt tell it himself ever saw much. 270 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: Of the money, but resulted from his artistry, where his 271 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,799 sculptures weren't very much. Mister presson the dollar, I had 272 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:25,039 yet to find anyone who sees his work without wanting 273 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:31,039 to possess some of it. His beautiful excited In addition 274 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,039 to his superb technique his originality of design, there was 275 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,159 a subtle charm about everything he did that was well eeries. 276 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,879 Speaker 4: To look here the. 277 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Only one I had left thorn at. 278 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: Play differ. 279 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: Hen't good? 280 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see it. That's such an old thing. 281 00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:57,399 Speaker 3: But what surprised him. 282 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,039 Speaker 4: Fifteen thousand dollars. But the rights, Yeah, this one over here, 283 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,960 it is not a pollup. 284 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,159 Speaker 3: The dollar what well, what I'm on an extra on 285 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,639 these things. 286 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:11,759 Speaker 2: But it seems to me as though it has the 287 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:14,879 same well yeah, instile. 288 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,279 Speaker 4: The same charm, the same delicacy of lind. It too 289 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:20,879 is a fine work of art. And if I chose 290 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:24,000 I could pass it off as a genuine polus that 291 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,480 it isn't, then who did it? And this this one 292 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:27,919 over here? 293 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: John Wesley Collins. 294 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: He so admired Pollock's work that he took the style 295 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:37,200 at least could not be allowed to die. Therefore he 296 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,840 has subjugated whatever style he himself might have had for 297 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,720 that of the men he worshiped. Fortunately for him, his 298 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,480 work to command a good price so that. 299 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: The don't touch her. 300 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,759 Speaker 2: Sorry, how long has this man Colin's been doing this? 301 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: Something over two years? 302 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: Thanks, mister presser, I think you've just helped me side 303 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,360 a fifty thousand dollars insurance fraud. Well, mister Beson, I'll 304 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:25,039 see you later. I walked down the front door of 305 00:15:25,039 --> 00:15:26,840 a little light gary on Third Avenue. 306 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,759 Speaker 3: Over my shoulders, I closed the door. 307 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: I could see me on her. 308 00:15:29,559 --> 00:15:31,399 Speaker 2: Water best and make a dance with a little office 309 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:34,200 inside and grab a telephone. I sneak back then and 310 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,879 stepped up behind a rack of picture frames and canvases 311 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:38,799 and listened and. 312 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:42,399 Speaker 4: Ray Thissus Walter, well the that's listen, no. 313 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Listen, something has just happened. But well there was a 314 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,480 man here, Johnny. 315 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: Dollar, some kind of insurance investigator. So you no, don't 316 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:57,519 you buston? But if he comes back here, m very well, 317 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 I'll unlock the back door for you. But are you 318 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:05,519 who were you? Hello, Henry, Henry. 319 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: When Busson went to the back door, I quietly slipped 320 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,559 out the front. I found a telephone move with a 321 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,399 drug store on the corner right him five a dime 322 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,320 for phone quarterback. 323 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 6: That cheels me. 324 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: Yes, mister Dowler, And I told you when you were here, 325 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:23,080 and they were both. 326 00:16:22,879 --> 00:16:24,519 Speaker 3: Patient and mind for several years. 327 00:16:24,519 --> 00:16:27,519 Speaker 2: All right, doctor tell me this. Did Henry Davidson pronack 328 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,799 have a scar, a deep scar on the front one hand, 329 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:31,840 the right hand. 330 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 6: Yes. 331 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: Yes. 332 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:36,399 Speaker 2: He told me that when he was a child he cut. 333 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,759 Speaker 4: Through the tip of that thumb very deeply, all the 334 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:39,639 way down to the ball. 335 00:16:39,639 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: That's all I wanted to know. 336 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, doctor, thanks a lot. 337 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,279 Speaker 2: The tips of the corner on that phone call couldn't 338 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,759 have taken me more than five or six minutes. And 339 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:53,559 when I went back to the eye Gallery, Beson was 340 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:55,559 coming out of the little office, careful to close the 341 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,919 door behind him. Well, mister teller, I didn't expect you 342 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,279 to return if he'd not for food. Had we decided 343 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:07,079 to buy one of the sculptures by John Lesley Collins 344 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,839 fan No, of course, so far as the one remaining 345 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:17,359 genuine Pollock is concerned, but the method also? Would you 346 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,799 like to sit down and write a statement forming datement? 347 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,559 Speaker 4: I'm afraid I don't understand. 348 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: Why would you rather call on the police what you're 349 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,200 talking about? I told you before, mister Besson fault. And 350 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:32,240 since it's pretty obvious that you're an accessory, you mentioned 351 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,519 the great similarity between the sculptures and Henry Davidson Pollock 352 00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:37,599 and John Wesley Collins. Yes, and I told you. 353 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:40,799 Speaker 4: The reason for it. It's you, of course, all right, 354 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,200 Look here this one fawn at play. 355 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:46,319 Speaker 2: You called it the Pollock, the genuine polop. 356 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: You'd swear to that, of course I would. 357 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,759 Speaker 2: And how could you pull it? Well? Well, there's one way. 358 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,759 The mark's left by the artist's right thumb here and there, 359 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,640 for instance, because that numb was split on the end, 360 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,240 left its imprint on the clerk with the dollar. And 361 00:18:01,319 --> 00:18:03,359 I can prove that these recent things done by the 362 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,680 man you called John Wesley Collins were done by the 363 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,400 same person. 364 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,559 Speaker 3: They all bear that same mark very well with the dollar. 365 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: But the world will never. 366 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: Know now by some said thing down, Yes, put it 367 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:20,279 down the letter, Henry. 368 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:22,319 Speaker 4: I mean if the Collins, I. 369 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:22,799 Speaker 3: Henry, will do. 370 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 4: Miter dollar. I suppose I should have known sooner or later. Yeah, 371 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,039 I give myself. 372 00:18:31,759 --> 00:18:32,039 Speaker 6: Up to you. 373 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,599 Speaker 2: But Henry, if the stories are simple than mit the dollar, 374 00:18:35,559 --> 00:18:36,720 I suppose you'd like to do it. 375 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:39,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly WoT you see. 376 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to get away from my wife for reasons 377 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,240 that you don't do. 378 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:48,279 Speaker 4: Have to go too. I planned to fly out to 379 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:49,559 the West Coast to. 380 00:18:49,599 --> 00:18:55,559 Speaker 2: Disappear, but at the last minute I gave the plane 381 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:57,480 to take it to someone else on the plane that 382 00:18:57,599 --> 00:18:59,000 crash out there over the desert. 383 00:18:59,079 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: There. 384 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Then, knowing that my wife thought me dead, and realizing 385 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,240 I could become lost in this tremendous city as well 386 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,799 as anywhere else in the world. 387 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,839 Speaker 4: But I've forgotten about the insurance. 388 00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: So then anonymous of the course, I started bringing back 389 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,160 in my saying all of this was very long. I know, 390 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,559 well I'm afraid of something for the course. Now it's 391 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:24,319 a party, mister Dollars. 392 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: The works have done best. 393 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: Columns are sold very low at good prices. Only this morning, listen, 394 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,160 I was able to. 395 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,279 Speaker 4: Mail the whole balance of the fifty thousand dollars. 396 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: To the insurance company. 397 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: Do you think that will help? Sir A part? 398 00:19:46,319 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: Here you have it, and you can take whatever action 399 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:49,720 you may think is necessary. 400 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: Olig is waiting for the company, or the courts or whoever. 401 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:55,079 Speaker 2: And while the rest of is too scared to going 402 00:19:56,319 --> 00:19:59,279 every that's account, I think that company. 403 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 4: Can afford it. 404 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: The total, including the trip bank on Harford, is twenty 405 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,480 six dollars and. 406 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,799 Speaker 3: Fifteen cents, Your truly, Johnny Dollar. 407 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: Now here is are story to tell you about next week. 408 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:27,079 Story next week one of my oldest and wildest friends 409 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,279 in one of my rarest and wildless adventures. Joy us, 410 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:46,920 thank you, yours truly, Johnny Dollars, yours truly, Johnny Dollar. 411 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Stirring Bob Bailey originates in Hollywood and has written, produced 412 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,559 and directed by Jack Johnstone for an oar cast worker, Biglan, 413 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:59,480 Edgar Barrier, Carlton g Young, Will Light and Laurence Subcos 414 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:02,759 He's going to join us next week same time, and 415 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:09,799 Fasion or another exciting story of your Johnny. 416 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,519 Speaker 4: This is Van Coverly. 417 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Pat seemed a little too fixated on missus 418 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,799 Pollock somehow being alive. My first thought was that the 419 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:36,920 sculptor was alive, even not thinking of the title, but 420 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,680 the facts of the plane crash I think gave Johnny 421 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,599 a good reason to presume against it. Johnny's deduction on 422 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:51,319 the thumbprint was able to flush out the altar and hiding. 423 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,319 And when you think about it, the scheme that the 424 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,000 art gallery owner worked up was a bit too cute 425 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:04,440 by half an admirer of the sculptor whose work looked 426 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:10,759 almost identical to the sculptor being imitated, and pieces for 427 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,240 both are being sold by the same dealer. Well, now 428 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:17,720 we turn to listener comments and feedback, and we have 429 00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:22,240 some regarding the big h matter. Dawn writes, anybody else 430 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,720 bothered Johnny didn't bail for that pack of cigarettes. It's 431 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:29,359 sad to see the great ones lose a step. I 432 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:32,160 will say that when you get towards the end of 433 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,519 Johnny Doller, the expense accounts become a lot less detailed 434 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,160 and are used a lot less in storytelling. It becomes 435 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,480 even more pronounced when you get into the Reddick Kramer years. 436 00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:49,319 And then Elwood writes, I was waiting for the homeowner 437 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,359 to talk about her actor brother John, and of course 438 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,000 the name of the big h was Helen Dayner. Now 439 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,359 I will say, looking at John Abbott's book, that who 440 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,200 is Johnny Dollar matter? And he went through the scripts 441 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,640 over at Thousand Oaks Library when they were there, now 442 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:16,240 moved to the Pailey Center at CLA. But he spelled 443 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,680 her last name as da. 444 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: N E R. 445 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: So her last name sounds like John Dayers, but apparently 446 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,119 it would be no relation because the spelling is different. 447 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:31,680 Then we turn to YouTube, where we have some comments 448 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:36,880 on the Cask of Death matter. Kathy Wright's congratulations on 449 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,200 your milestone. Jeffrey writs, your voice sounds husky. Hope you 450 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:45,799 feel better, Suit of six, Thanks Adam, Well, thanks so much, Jeffrey, 451 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,720 and I am feeling better. Generally, when my voice is 452 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:55,000 a bit off, it's corrected Before the episode even comes 453 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,279 out in the podcast, but appreciate your concern. All right, well, 454 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,680 now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, 455 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,400 and I should say supporters, because I am thanking those 456 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:13,279 Patreon supporters who have been supporting the podcast for five 457 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,920 years this month, and I want to thank Joel and 458 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,160 Doug both supporting the podcast at the Detective Sergeant level 459 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:24,640 of seven dollars and fourteen cents or more per month. 460 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:28,640 And I want to thank Eliza currently supporting the podcast 461 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:32,720 at the Shawmus level of four dollars or more per month. Again, 462 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,200 thank you so much for your support, and that will 463 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,599 do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please 464 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,960 follow us using your favorite podcast software. And if you're 465 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:48,720 enjoying the podcast on YouTube, be sure to lock the video, 466 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,759 subscribe to the channel, and mark the notification bell, all 467 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,279 those great things that help YouTube channels to grow. We'll 468 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,400 be back in two weeks with another episode of Yours 469 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,759 True Leads don't need allar but join us tomorrow as 470 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,960 we give way to Counterspy and the great adventurers of 471 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:07,720 old time radio ware. 472 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 4: You're quite a character. Horn. 473 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:16,079 Speaker 6: While addressing me doctor, kindly use my type. 474 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:21,799 Speaker 5: Of course professor, Horn only who made you a professor? 475 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:29,319 The only person in the world who's qualified myself? All 476 00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:33,720 arm gods, I'm still. We're in the prison walls. Within 477 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:42,279 the prison wall, doctor, hold still now. I don't understand 478 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,640 why your upper lipids and healing. This is a bad infection. 479 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,119 I believe the lack of healing is due to hyperprotonemia 480 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,680 because the food is lacking simeon. 481 00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:53,079 Speaker 6: Hydro chloride and near cinemaid. 482 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 4: No, really, thank you, no medicine. 483 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 6: Don't you pardon me if I speak medically over your head? Doctor? 484 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,799 But then ignorance always irritates me. 485 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: A have hair, Robby, I'll have to cover your whole 486 00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:11,519 upper lip with adhesive again. 487 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:14,599 Speaker 6: How long will you a horse? Doctor? 488 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:17,319 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Man. 489 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: Really, hey here you may takes attempt to escape in 490 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,799 two months, horns our news does travel. That's only ten 491 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,039 days more you're transferred to the death house. 492 00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 6: You have a morbid mind, haven't. 493 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: Zero No If you'll be with us then in the meantime, 494 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:46,200 send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, 495 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,640 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 496 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:58,559 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash great detectives from Kallispell, Montana. 497 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,400 This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.