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Speaker 8: This is the fourth and final installment of the Nineties
Speaker 8: Night and it's taken me a minute to get this
Speaker 8: one put together, but it's better late than never. Joining
Speaker 8: us again for this episode is a.
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Speaker 8: Nineties kid?
Speaker 2: Excellent? Even though I think you're not special anymore once
Speaker 2: you're on all the time.
Speaker 8: You're special to me and your special education.
Speaker 2: That was in the nineties.
Speaker 8: So to kind of recap what we talked about on
Speaker 8: the last episode, I think we left it on kind
Speaker 8: of a cliffhanger because we covered Waco, Ruby Ridge, Kurt Cobain.
Speaker 2: What else you went through, like a list of stuff
Speaker 2: that had happened.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh yeah. We talked about the Los Angeles riots.
Speaker 8: We kind of talked about OJA a little bit in
Speaker 8: the Oklahoma City bombing.
Speaker 2: No, I thought you said that already.
Speaker 8: No, But so today we're summing up some of the
Speaker 8: stuff that I had written in the notes that I
Speaker 8: wanted to cover in the last episode, but it would
Speaker 8: just have been like a six hour long episode, So
Speaker 8: we're back at it today. You kind of read a
Speaker 8: head in the notes. What do you think about some
Speaker 8: of the stuff we're going to talk about today? What
Speaker 8: should we get arted.
Speaker 2: With John Bennet? Ramsey? So, I always thought it was
Speaker 2: Jean Bennet.
Speaker 8: It is Jean Benet, isn't it j o n Either way.
Speaker 8: I first learned of the conspiracy stuff about her from
Speaker 8: Program to Kill. You remember the chapter on her? No, Well,
Speaker 8: it's in the very back of the book. It's after
Speaker 8: all of the serial killer stuff. There's a chapter just
Speaker 8: on John Benet, and it's something that I feel like
Speaker 8: I've covered at nauseum, like on my own show, and
Speaker 8: even I did another episode about it. On the Cult
Speaker 8: of Conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Or did I did?
Speaker 8: I did, and then I did an episode on it
Speaker 8: with the Occult Rejects. So I feel like I've talked
Speaker 8: about it a lot, and if you want all the
Speaker 8: specific details on John Benet, you can go back and
Speaker 8: listen to any of those episodes. But you did listen
Speaker 8: to the one I did on Cult of Conspiracy, right,
Speaker 8: what are your thoughts about the infamous? You know, John,
Speaker 8: But there's so many theories and like she didn't exist,
Speaker 8: or she's Katy Perry or like Lady Gaga or whatever.
Speaker 2: I like the Katy Perry one.
Speaker 8: So you don't think my episode was compelling, sure you,
Speaker 8: but you do think she's Katy Perry.
Speaker 2: No, I just like the theory.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, but what are your thoughts on it? Obviously,
Speaker 8: I think there's a ground pedophile network that operates with
Speaker 8: these elite type families.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just based on a lot of the
Speaker 2: stuff you've talked about, it seems like her parents were
Speaker 2: in some kind of eyes wide shut level society.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting because when we talked to John Gusty,
Speaker 2: he mentioned how this happens multiple times to day all
Speaker 2: over the place, but this one was blown up for
Speaker 2: a reason.
Speaker 8: Well, can I ask you, do you remember it?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how old were you? What year did it happen?
Speaker 8: Ninety six?
Speaker 2: I want to say so I would have been thirteen
Speaker 2: if it happened in ninety six.
Speaker 8: Let me see for sure. Yeah, yeah, I was thirteen.
Speaker 2: This was one of those that kind of just you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about OJ already, some stuff we're going to
Speaker 2: be talking about today with Princess Die and jeffkj John
Speaker 2: Beney did dominate the media space.
Speaker 8: Was your mom obsessed over it?
Speaker 2: No, I don't believe so.
Speaker 8: Well. I remember Actually I don't know if you listened
Speaker 8: to part three yet, where I included Jacob's nineties memory Real,
Speaker 8: but he said his mom got obsessed with John Benet, like,
Speaker 8: wouldn't let him leave that stuff. My mom was kind
Speaker 8: of like that too, because she would see these true
Speaker 8: crime things about kids and she'd be like, oh, for sure,
Speaker 8: you know, And I was a Hellian. I was a
Speaker 8: hilacious child to deal with. I was always out and about,
Speaker 8: so I can see why she'd be worried. But at
Speaker 8: the same time, if people knew what actually happened, they
Speaker 8: wouldn't need to even fucking you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also funny that that would be of
Speaker 2: fear because this, however went down, it was presented that
Speaker 2: it happened in their house. So the fact that this
Speaker 2: wasn't like a Johnny Gosh taking off his fucking brand
Speaker 2: new bicycle on a paper route right thing where I
Speaker 2: could see some hysteria. But I do remember Jacob saying
Speaker 2: that his mom was like not so comfortable letting them
Speaker 2: go outside alone after that. I know a lot of
Speaker 2: other people could say the same thing, But this was
Speaker 2: presented as someone broke in and did whatever they did
Speaker 2: and then just left the body.
Speaker 8: In the basement, because that makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe that is part of the reason this
Speaker 2: was blown up something by you really quick.
Speaker 8: I know we have other fish to fry, but I
Speaker 8: am actually working on this theory for an upcoming episode
Speaker 8: that I have revealed partially to you already. But it's
Speaker 8: almost as if there has been a concerted effort to
Speaker 8: brainwash people into not believing their own eyes. Because if
Speaker 8: you were to look at the facts of this case,
Speaker 8: and actually a lot of things that just don't make
Speaker 8: sense whatsoever, you just look at it and you're like,
Speaker 8: this doesn't fucking add up, This doesn't make sense. But
Speaker 8: it's like we've been trained to not even believe our
Speaker 8: own eyes. Because if you were to look at this
Speaker 8: and say, they somehow broke in, got the kid, did
Speaker 8: all this stuff to him in the basement of the house,
Speaker 8: left the body, and the parents didn't hear anything. And
Speaker 8: then the handwriting on the ransom note is in the
Speaker 8: mom's handwriting. They got the pen from the mom's writing desk,
Speaker 8: and the notepad that they wrote it on was from
Speaker 8: the mom's stuff. And it's like, right, they train you,
Speaker 8: They purposely do this stuff to you to make you
Speaker 8: not even believe your own eyes. It's just it's like
Speaker 8: blatantly obvious. And if you were to not know any
Speaker 8: of the backstory but hear all the stuff that I
Speaker 8: present in my John Benet presentation, it's almost an absurd
Speaker 8: level of evidence pointing to the parents at all times
Speaker 8: throughout the entire investigation. But we're just not supposed to
Speaker 8: believe it because that's not the mainstream narrative, so therefore
Speaker 8: it can't be true.
Speaker 2: Well, I always remember mainstream thinking people there was a
Speaker 2: lot of people who were very suspicious of the parents,
Speaker 2: not conspiracy. There's type people, just normal everyday people. So
Speaker 2: I do think that the way this story has been presented,
Speaker 2: it's kind of a spider web. You can go in
Speaker 2: any direction with it. But I wasn't it just recently,
Speaker 2: probably within the last few months. I think it was
Speaker 2: around Christmas that they mentioned the dad was in the
Speaker 2: press again and the mom died of brain cancer, right,
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 8: She died of ovarian cancer.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: You also saw a lot of people pointing to the brother, right.
Speaker 8: I mean, but it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody who knew the facts of
Speaker 2: the case ever really thought someone broke.
Speaker 8: Side intruder theory. I don't feel like people bought that.
Speaker 2: But you go on to say it probably happened at
Speaker 2: a party outside the home and they panicked and brought
Speaker 2: her back and concocted this big plan.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what the evidence would support. But I mean,
Speaker 8: like I said before, all the specifics, you can go
Speaker 8: back on the Cult of Conspiracy and look for my
Speaker 8: episode on that, or you can go to actually covered
Speaker 8: it twice in two different Christmas specials on my own show,
Speaker 8: so you can go back. It's called on my show,
Speaker 8: it's called Little Miss Christmas Ritual, but I forget I
Speaker 8: don't know what the Cult called it. When I went
Speaker 8: on their show and did it. It was actually recently.
Speaker 8: It was last summer. I did that on the Cult
Speaker 8: of Conspiracy, So maybe go back and look for that.
Speaker 8: But something else that happened in the nineties that we
Speaker 8: talked about in Blood Ties, our last series together that
Speaker 8: I want to move on to, would be Jeffrey Dahmer
Speaker 8: and John Wayne Gacy with that weird synchronicity where it
Speaker 8: was like Jeff got baptized on the same day John
Speaker 8: Wayne Gacy was executed, and it was an eclipse day
Speaker 8: and it Yeah, it was like an eclipse and that
Speaker 8: happened you guessed it in the nineties. Do you remember
Speaker 8: that at all?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think I mentioned in the Blood Ties
Speaker 2: series that I was kind of very, I don't know,
Speaker 2: intrigued by the Yeah, just the whole Dahmer story, all
Speaker 2: of it. And he had already died and been beaten
Speaker 2: to death in prison when I stumbled upon it, So
Speaker 2: I don't remember. But yeah, So jeff Dahmer was baptized
Speaker 2: on the same way John Dwayne Gacy was executed, and
Speaker 2: it's an eclipse day, so you can have fun with
Speaker 2: that if you're into the cult ritual stuff.
Speaker 8: I feel like people don't realize how long John Wayne
Speaker 8: Gacy sat on death row because he was what sixties
Speaker 8: or seventies.
Speaker 2: I don't know how old he would have been.
Speaker 8: No, No, he was doing all that shit in the
Speaker 8: sixties or seventies, seventies, So he sat on death row
Speaker 8: for like twenty years before he was executed. But he wasn't. Actually,
Speaker 8: they weren't actually the only serial killers of note in
Speaker 8: the nineties. In nineteen ninety four, Gary Ray Bowles went
Speaker 8: on an eight month killing spree and became known as
Speaker 8: the I ninety five killer. And I had actually never
Speaker 8: heard of this guy. He must not be a CIA
Speaker 8: one because they haven't glorified him at all. Had you
Speaker 8: ever heard of this guy?
Speaker 2: Was he mentioned the program to kill him?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I don't. His name does not sound familiar to me
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 8: So to me when I see names like this, and
Speaker 8: it's like, oh, he went on an eight month killing
Speaker 8: spree and became known as the I ninety five killer
Speaker 8: and nobody knows about it. Maybe he was just like
Speaker 8: acting on his own volution. Maybe he's not a CIA guy.
Speaker 2: Do you remember his body count by chance?
Speaker 8: Let's look it up, because eight months is plenty enough
Speaker 8: time to run through some bodies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're proactive, you could knock off quite a
Speaker 2: few people.
Speaker 8: Oh see, that's why nobody knows about him. He only
Speaker 8: killed six people, so.
Speaker 2: He spread his victims out. He didn't even get one
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he sucks our serial killers go.
Speaker 2: He looks like a nice guy. Yeah, he looks like
Speaker 2: a gym teacher. He was from Florida, Florida.
Speaker 8: Man. Oh no, sorry, he was from Virginia, Virginia.
Speaker 2: But he went to Florida State. I guess. So died
Speaker 2: in Florida State prison lethal injection.
Speaker 8: See this guy got lethal injection and he only killed
Speaker 8: six people. Was uh, damer on death row? Or did
Speaker 8: he get life? I feel like he got life.
Speaker 2: He wasn't in death row?
Speaker 8: You're right? I mean.
Speaker 2: Wisconsin? M Where was he in prison?
Speaker 8: Ohio? Wouldn't he?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 8: Hang on?
Speaker 2: I thought it was Wisconsin. Yeah, Columbia Columbia Correctional Institution, Portage, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: So maybe their death penalty laws. Look that up.
Speaker 8: He was serving sixteen consecutive life sentences.
Speaker 2: Well, look up if Wisconsin has the death penalty. No,
Speaker 2: so there you go.
Speaker 8: That's how he got off of.
Speaker 2: He had been tried in Florida, they would have fucked him.
Speaker 8: Up like Ted Bundy. They fucking electrocuted his asshole off.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see how that that would go in
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 8: He was a crispy critter.
Speaker 2: They elect ahole off. That probably hurt.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, okay, so moving on though. There's a lot
Speaker 8: of like little things I want to mention, and then
Speaker 8: there's like a few big things I want to spend
Speaker 8: a lot of time on. But I covered both of
Speaker 8: these things in the Pedaphocracy and Uncle Sam wants your Children.
Speaker 8: But I don't think people realize how recent they are
Speaker 8: because I mentioned these names and I say, like, oh,
Speaker 8: Paul Binassi and Da da da da da. All that
Speaker 8: shit with the Franklin scandal and the mc martin shit
Speaker 8: happened in the night. Well it started in the eighties,
Speaker 8: right with the Franklin shit, but it was mainly in
Speaker 8: the nineties. All the McMartin preschool trials and all that
Speaker 8: shit that was in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Well, the Franklin scandal. It's pretty wide scoping. It started
Speaker 2: in the late seventies, kind of crossing over into the
Speaker 2: Reagan w Bush or Yeah, so that would have been
Speaker 2: eighty But I remember when I researched Franklin. Most of
Speaker 2: that stuff kind of happened in the eighties.
Speaker 8: Really, because I feel like Paul Barnassi was a nineties kid. No,
Speaker 8: are you positive? Yes? So if I google it.
Speaker 2: And you're wrong, I don't believe in Google.
Speaker 8: Nineteen eighty eight. So it trickled over into the nineties.
Speaker 2: The allegations began in eighty eight when he was active
Speaker 2: in the streets. He's not a nineties kid. Can't you
Speaker 2: find his birthday? I'm sure a lot of the trials
Speaker 2: and stuff, because like he did a civil suit.
Speaker 8: Well, if the allegation started in the eighties, then he's
Speaker 8: not a nineties No, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: When did Johnny Gosh get nabbed? That would have been
Speaker 2: early in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, he would have been a teenager at that point.
Speaker 8: I don't know why I was.
Speaker 2: Well, think about like the civil suit and everything. If
Speaker 2: the allegations begin in the eighties, in the late eighties,
Speaker 2: I could see this.
Speaker 8: The civil suit was in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I could probably if the allegations only started surfacing in
Speaker 2: the late eighties, when this stuff had been going on
Speaker 2: for a decade, I would figure that like with you know,
Speaker 2: because there was the perjury of Alicia mm hmm, I
Speaker 2: know that was in the nineties. It probably was, so yeah,
Speaker 2: this this would count. It definitely spilled over into the nineties.
Speaker 8: And then the mc martin preschool trials took place in
Speaker 8: the nineties, I know for sure. So, I mean, I've
Speaker 8: spoken about both of these things at nauseum, but I've
Speaker 8: never really gotten your take on either one. I know
Speaker 8: that we talk about it in person or not in person.
Speaker 8: We talk about it in private, but we don't We've
Speaker 8: never like an episode on it or anything. You had
Speaker 8: actually started researching the Franklin scandal before I ever even
Speaker 8: knew about it.
Speaker 2: I heard about it from Tim Dillon, which is a
Speaker 2: weird place to hear about it, because he used to
Speaker 2: kind of skirt on like maybe I'm into conspiracies and
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not, but he's gone full blown. But he
Speaker 2: was in Omaha, Nebraska, and he was like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: were at this diner, and every fucking person in there,
Speaker 2: they just had this dead stare, like they were mk
Speaker 2: altered as a kid. I mean, this is where the
Speaker 2: fucking Franklin scandal happened. And I had heard whispers of it,
Speaker 2: but after Tim Dillon talked about it, I looked into
Speaker 2: it and Jeremiah and I, my co host on Conspiracy Playtime,
Speaker 2: did I was actually one of my episodes of a
Speaker 2: deep dive. So that was one of the darker episodes.
Speaker 2: We did probably snuck some stupid jokes in there, but
Speaker 2: it was it was bleak, and I know a lot
Speaker 2: about it. I know that there's a lot I don't know,
Speaker 2: and I know that this is when I first started
Speaker 2: hearing whispers of Hunter S. Thompson being a fucking ultra creep.
Speaker 2: So this the Franklin scandal. Yeah, it's it's not for
Speaker 2: the faint of heart, but I think it's something that
Speaker 2: everybody should know about. And many people in the mainstream
Speaker 2: conspiracy crowd these days like to say that the Democrats
Speaker 2: are the sexual predators. But this happened with republic stuff
Speaker 2: in the White House, as Paul and many others attested
Speaker 2: to these after hour parties, that was a Republican administration.
Speaker 2: In fact, there's so much stuff.
Speaker 8: Larry King, not the talk show host, was a black
Speaker 8: Republican guy who was involved with these credit unions and shit,
Speaker 8: and he was running these fucking pedophile rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had ties with Boystown, a local chapter where
Speaker 2: he would victims and as we alluded to earlier, he
Speaker 2: had victims turned recruiters. And there's the whole story that
Speaker 2: Paul Banasi did or at least was there when Johnny
Speaker 2: Gosh was nabbed. So he saw some.
Speaker 8: Weird shit, like you said with Hunter S. Thompson so
Speaker 8: at Bohemian Grove. Let's just say, if the allegation started
Speaker 8: in eighty eight, that's probably why I included it is
Speaker 8: because the trial.
Speaker 2: Was in the night. Well, let's just safely guess that
Speaker 2: this wasn't being talked about on a large scale until
Speaker 2: the nineties, and so probably Martin as well. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: one's even more covered up. I would say, oh for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean the lynx they went to with some of
Speaker 2: these parents.
Speaker 8: To bury this shit. Oh my god, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 8: They should make we should make it sucking documentary about
Speaker 8: fucking the mc martin preschool, because they make documentaries about
Speaker 8: all this stuff. I've never I had never heard of that.
Speaker 8: It's supposedly the longest running trial in US history, and
Speaker 8: there's not a documentary on it on Netflix, not even
Speaker 8: a bad one. At least Waco got a bad one
Speaker 8: that McMartin doesn't see the light of day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a presidio as well. I think that was eighties,
Speaker 2: so right. I'm just saying as far as how they
Speaker 2: get buried, something so horrendous and widespread was able to
Speaker 2: be covered.
Speaker 8: Up the way it was well, I mean, speaking of
Speaker 8: Netflix documentary, so kind of like the Dahmer Show on Netflix.
Speaker 8: They recently came out, what was it last year with
Speaker 8: another nineties phase that I talked about in the Pedaphocracy series,
Speaker 8: which was the Menindez Brothers. And actually I got someone
Speaker 8: message me through my link tree and asked me if
Speaker 8: I was going to ever talk about the Menendez brothers.
Speaker 8: But I already had in the Pedaphocracy series, and then
Speaker 8: out of nowhere they come up with this Netflix show
Speaker 8: about it. I mean, what are your thoughts. I know
Speaker 8: we have kind of talked about it before, maybe, but
Speaker 8: just kind of recapping your thoughts on the Menendez brothers.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one I've never really been that
Speaker 2: interested to like actually doing some deep research into On
Speaker 2: the surface level, it looks like some extreme abuse took
Speaker 2: place and they had had enough. But I know there's
Speaker 2: a lot of other trends of thought there.
Speaker 8: Well, I'll give you the cliffs notes. Is their father
Speaker 8: was raping the dog shit out of them, their mom
Speaker 8: most definitely knew about it and did nothing. And the
Speaker 8: one brother woke up one day and literally shot the
Speaker 8: faces off of the parents.
Speaker 2: So why did they both go down?
Speaker 8: That's a good question. Maybe I need to revisit the details.
Speaker 8: Maybe the brother helped in some capacity. I don't know,
Speaker 8: but I think that the thought was that they did
Speaker 8: it together and premeditated this attack on the parents. But
Speaker 8: I likened it to many other types of crimes of passion,
Speaker 8: where if you just wanted to get your parents' money,
Speaker 8: why would you go to the links of creating this
Speaker 8: rape story that is like they had been molested by
Speaker 8: their dads and from a very young age, and go
Speaker 8: to the links of like multiple shots to the face.
Speaker 8: When you see something like that, you should start wondering
Speaker 8: what the fuck is going on, because you can kill
Speaker 8: someone without blowing the face off of them. Several several times,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. Usually kids who experienced severe
Speaker 8: abuse go for the face of their attacker, kind of
Speaker 8: like and I mentioned this in the Pedaphocracy series, but
Speaker 8: it's worth mentioning again. With Lizzie Borden, they could never
Speaker 8: pin it on her, but there was a lot of
Speaker 8: rumors and allegations that she was being abused by her father,
Speaker 8: and her sister was also being abused by her father,
Speaker 8: and the step mom knew about it and didn't do anything.
Speaker 8: And Lizzie literally axed the face off of her father
Speaker 8: and her stepmom. So with the Menindez brothers to me
Speaker 8: and they're saying, my dad raped me from a young age,
Speaker 8: it all of it looks to me like a crime
Speaker 8: of peer rage and passion, like to remove the face
Speaker 8: of someone. It's beyond just like, I want your money
Speaker 8: because they almost made the Menindez brothers look like spoiled fags.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they added some gay incest shit, didn't they end
Speaker 2: the net? They?
Speaker 8: I feel like Netflix always does a great job of
Speaker 8: like convoluting what the truth.
Speaker 2: Of it really is. It seems like a Gus Van
Speaker 2: Sant production.
Speaker 8: But you know what I mean though, right they made
Speaker 8: the Menindez brothers out to look like Valley Boys or something.
Speaker 2: I never watched it, so I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: know that there was some controversy, and also after this
Speaker 2: series they're looking at possibly partying them. They should be pardoned,
Speaker 2: but it just goes to show you.
Speaker 8: But you know, this is a great time to bring
Speaker 8: this up, because I believe that the Menindez brothers should
Speaker 8: have gotten what do they call it, guilty by insanity
Speaker 8: or innocent by insanity or what do they call it?
Speaker 2: Well, you can plead insanity.
Speaker 8: Do you have to go to jail if you plead insanity?
Speaker 2: It just depends on the judge and the jury. But
Speaker 2: I would assume that in most cases, I mean, were
Speaker 2: they minors at the time, So yeah, I would assume
Speaker 2: that institutionalization probably could have been the harshest punishment if
Speaker 2: they got off on an insanity plea.
Speaker 8: Well, let's just say, in my opinion, I don't think
Speaker 8: that they should have had to serve any time for
Speaker 8: what it was that they did to their parents, and
Speaker 8: I hope that they do get pardoned. But let's take
Speaker 8: the next nineties case that you always talk about pisses
Speaker 8: me off sometimes, which says the West Memphis three and
Speaker 8: those shittheads did get pardoned, and I don't think they
Speaker 8: should have.
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't get pardoned.
Speaker 8: They they got let out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they did an Alford plea.
Speaker 8: But didn't they get let out because people were all
Speaker 8: like free, free the fact.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking so many years later, but they
Speaker 2: struck a plea where an Alford plea is where you
Speaker 2: admit guilt in exchange for your freedom. I'm probably not
Speaker 2: putting that in the most legal scholarly terms, but it's basically,
Speaker 2: we know we didn't do it, but we'll say we
Speaker 2: did if you let us out.
Speaker 8: Oh fuck off, that's really what they got.
Speaker 2: Well, look it up on your phone. Look up Alfred plea.
Speaker 8: I don't even know how to spell it. Is it
Speaker 8: Alfred or Alfred? Alfred drt Alford plea, Alford plea a
Speaker 8: guilty plea in which the defendant maintains their innocence. Well
Speaker 8: fuck them, that's what they got off on. But go
Speaker 8: ahead and tell all the good listeners.
Speaker 2: What do you think I think we did talk about.
Speaker 8: Did we talk about it in Blood Ties?
Speaker 2: It may have been, but yeah, I don't think this
Speaker 2: ever happened.
Speaker 8: You think it was all stage.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think many things are real and many things
Speaker 2: are staged.
Speaker 8: And well, one of our other nineties besties, Johnny Depp, Yeah,
Speaker 8: serious connections.
Speaker 2: Eddie Vedder, I think recorded a song with Damian Eccles
Speaker 2: and I mean the whole thing. You gotta watch.
Speaker 8: Paradise I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Paradise Lost is a HBO production. It's a trilogy documentary
Speaker 2: series about the whole thing. And if you watch it
Speaker 2: as though this whole thing is orchestrated, it becomes very apparent.
Speaker 2: And I did not come up with this on my own.
Speaker 2: In fact, this is a guest that we always mentioned
Speaker 2: on this show, John Gusty. I just asked him what
Speaker 2: he thought of the whole thing because we were kind
Speaker 2: of on, you know, a tangent, and he basically told me,
Speaker 2: and I didn't and understand him at first, that the
Speaker 2: whole thing was fake, and I had the typical visceral
Speaker 2: reaction for a second, and then I heard him out
Speaker 2: and he's absolutely right, and it's got all the markings
Speaker 2: of a fucking hardcore psyop production.
Speaker 8: Well, I was gonna say, if I'm going with your
Speaker 8: theory and I'm just entertaining you I'm not saying you're right,
Speaker 8: so don't get a big head or anything.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you agree with me or not.
Speaker 2: Yes you do, oh, I would see.
Speaker 8: Your day if I don't agree with you. If I'm
Speaker 8: gonna just humor this idea. It would make sense for
Speaker 8: an actor to be friends with another actor, right, Damian
Speaker 8: Eckles is just an actor playing a role, so I
Speaker 8: believe also Marilyn Manson and Johnny Deppa actors playing roles.
Speaker 8: So it would make sense that both of those idiots
Speaker 8: are friends with Damian Eccles. They're all just fucking actors
Speaker 8: playing roles. So I mean I might, I might be
Speaker 8: able to get on board.
Speaker 2: You're quicker to agree with me that the Tait murders
Speaker 2: were staged than you are of a these because.
Speaker 8: I've talked about it at nauseum with the likes of
Speaker 8: William Ramsey and I've even I think even Sean mccannon
Speaker 8: has talked about it before a little bit. I can't
Speaker 8: remember if it was Sean or not. But the point
Speaker 8: is is, if you just look at it from I
Speaker 8: guess the mainstream narrative, it's really fucked up. What if
Speaker 8: these little boys died like that.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 2: And one of the main arguments of the guy who
Speaker 2: convinced me that this was staged is the parents' willingness
Speaker 2: to participate in the documentary and have the kid's dead
Speaker 2: naked bodies plastered everywhere and HBO making a profit off
Speaker 2: of this. He said, I, as a parent, if my
Speaker 2: teen boys are preteen boys, I mean they were like
Speaker 2: little kids, he said. Yeah, he said, I don't have
Speaker 2: little kids, but I have uh, you know, early adult
Speaker 2: kids that were little at one point. And if they
Speaker 2: if this had happened to them, I would fucking break
Speaker 2: into the office of the HBO headquarters and do horrible
Speaker 2: things before I would ever let that footage out. And
Speaker 2: not only did they let them, Not only did they
Speaker 2: let the footage out, they participated in the documentary. There's
Speaker 2: a step dad who just goes full fucking retard reality TV.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like cursing the three the kids accused
Speaker 2: of it, and then by the time the second and
Speaker 2: third movie comes out, he's on their side. And then
Speaker 2: they try to say they they found DNA evidence that
Speaker 2: pointed to another step dad of the kids. Oh yes,
Speaker 2: So the whole thing is like reality TV, and this
Speaker 2: was an age where reality TV, well it hadn't hit
Speaker 2: that level yet, so you got to see like documentaries
Speaker 2: it for sure. Yeah, but documentaries have always had the
Speaker 2: tendency to lean that way, and it just I can't
Speaker 2: imagine wanting to have my kids remembered that way now,
Speaker 2: let alone make them, you know, be in a movie
Speaker 2: about it. So and that's not the only thing that
Speaker 2: makes me think this, but it was the thing that
Speaker 2: made me really kind of start to lean that way.
Speaker 8: I get it, for sure.
Speaker 2: And you also got to consider what you always say
Speaker 2: about what chaos was ensued by late sixties broad burning feminism,
Speaker 2: being independence clashing with the fact that as soon as
Speaker 2: they're out there being independent, there's people that are gonna
Speaker 2: fucking pick you up on the side of the road
Speaker 2: and cut you up into pieces. So you have the
Speaker 2: satanic panic going on. And then this happens and you're
Speaker 2: shown like a compassionate side to these kids who all
Speaker 2: they ever did wrong was fucking read Aleister Crowley and
Speaker 2: listen to heavy metal and do all this stuff, And
Speaker 2: so they were ostracized by the community and just automatically
Speaker 2: guilty in the minds of thousands of people paying attention
Speaker 2: to this case and they put that shit on trial.
Speaker 2: That was what the whole trial was was satanic panic.
Speaker 8: And you think they were pushing an agenda, of course,
Speaker 8: Well that fucking makes sense.
Speaker 2: I mean it's weird because you had in the eighties
Speaker 2: and nineties people like Phil Donahue platforming well known Satanists.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: Zeena Leavey, one of our favorites on the show, Well,
Speaker 2: who am I going to say?
Speaker 8: Taylor?
Speaker 2: Wow? Said zena mister eyebrows.
Speaker 8: Queene.
Speaker 2: He would be talking about how he was a Satanist.
Speaker 2: He would show up on these talk shows in full
Speaker 2: fucking military garb with fucking two erect eyebrows. I mean,
Speaker 2: they were showing us all of this stuff in such
Speaker 2: a way that you didn't really know what to think
Speaker 2: about any of it. And let alone in the Bible Belt,
Speaker 2: which tennessee right, if you want to talk about daytime
Speaker 2: TV watchers, it's the Bible Belt. I mean, it's everywhere,
Speaker 2: but it's just one of those things where a giant
Speaker 2: Laurel Canyon type psyop was taking place over the nation
Speaker 2: and the West. Memphis Three were right in the middle of,
Speaker 2: like the epitome of it. So the fact that that
Speaker 2: wouldn't be controlled. And even if it did happen, they
Speaker 2: still would have controlled it. But I don't think it did.
Speaker 8: If you don't like Colby, Siri, you can always read
Speaker 8: William Ramsey's book. He's done a great job actually laying
Speaker 8: out some cool stuff about it.
Speaker 2: I love William Ramsey.
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. You can go with Colby's way or
Speaker 8: you can go William Ramsey's way. I think either way
Speaker 8: you go though. It's a fucked up, fucking story. And
Speaker 8: if that really did happen to those kids, I feel
Speaker 8: sorry for them.
Speaker 2: Well think of it. Think of it this way. If
Speaker 2: it didn't happen to those kids, and I'm right, nobody died.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well see, there you go. But on to our
Speaker 8: dishonorable serial killer mention of this segment. It's gonna be
Speaker 8: Paul Bernardo and Carla Hamulka. I did see they put
Speaker 8: a new documentary on Hulu about these assholes. It's called
Speaker 8: The Barbie and Kin Killers. I'm sure you've seen it
Speaker 8: pop up. But I think I was actually talking to
Speaker 8: Teresa from The Occult Rejects and we mentioned how I
Speaker 8: believe these two got started in the late eighties. But
Speaker 8: it definitely trickled over into the nineties, and it was
Speaker 8: in Canada, and essentially it's the story this like Stockholm syndrome,
Speaker 8: bullsh Do you are you familiar.
Speaker 2: With it at all at all?
Speaker 8: So basically, Paul Bernardo was a rape a serial rapist.
Speaker 8: He wasn't murdering anyone yet, and he basically swept Carla
Speaker 8: off of her feet and they started. She started procuring
Speaker 8: girls for him to rape, and they would like make
Speaker 8: videos and shit about it. And one day, one night,
Speaker 8: he was like, well, you know, I'd really like to
Speaker 8: rape your sister. And she was young, like maybe thirteen
Speaker 8: or fourteen or something like that. And Carla, who worked
Speaker 8: as like a vet assistant, a vet tech, brought some
Speaker 8: like horse tranquilizers home and literally, yeah, they doped her
Speaker 8: sister up too much and he raped her on a
Speaker 8: video and once they were done doing whatever, they were like, whoops,
Speaker 8: we killed her, and then they had to get rid
Speaker 8: of her her own sister. I mean, and this is like,
Speaker 8: to me, one of those classic stock from syndrome, Like
Speaker 8: how can you meet a woman and convince her that
Speaker 8: you could you should be raping other women in front
Speaker 8: of her? It's not like she engaged in the rape.
Speaker 8: She just watched him as he raped other women, and
Speaker 8: then it like got crazier and crazier to the point
Speaker 8: where he was killing him.
Speaker 2: So the sister was the first victim and they kind
Speaker 2: of spiraled out after that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Like, iagin being
Speaker 8: so brainwashed by someone. It's like, this is your romantic
Speaker 8: partner that is supposed to be your boyfriend, and he's like,
Speaker 8: not only do I want to sleep with other chicks,
Speaker 8: I want to rape them in front of you, and
Speaker 8: I want you to take a video of me doing it.
Speaker 2: Tradwife material.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's just crazy. But so the Barbie and
Speaker 8: King Killers they broke off. They started in the eighties
Speaker 8: and broke off into the nineties and they are the
Speaker 8: dishonorable serial killer mentioned for this segment. But we're actually
Speaker 8: going to take a quick break and when we come back,
Speaker 8: we're going to move on to bigger and better things.
Speaker 8: Hang on, we'll be back in just a minute.
Speaker 10: Greetings, this is Sean McCann of Wake the Dead podcast.
Speaker 10: I remember about the nineties, it was a core time
Speaker 10: of my life. I remember mostly the music, the beginning
Speaker 10: of the nineties was Metallica. You know, it started in
Speaker 10: I guess the eighties was White Snake and def Leppard,
Speaker 10: but then it turned Metallica in like eighty eight, eighty nine,
Speaker 10: I remember big Metallica, and then Metallica gave way to
Speaker 10: the nineties music. I mean, it wasn't really Nirvana that
Speaker 10: changed everything. I think it was Metallica at least in
Speaker 10: my life, and then after that it was metal. I
Speaker 10: only listened to metal when I was like at home
Speaker 10: chilling out. I would listen to D Side, Cannibal Corpse
Speaker 10: or something. You know, it was really really something else.
Speaker 10: People thought I was weird. Yeah, but when you're trying
Speaker 10: to chill out to a song and my strip draped
Speaker 10: its strangles, people might think you're really weird. That's what
Speaker 10: the nineties did to me. Yeah. So nineteen ninety six
Speaker 10: was Marilyn Manson nine Inch Nails. They all they had
Speaker 10: huge albums that year and it was a really big deal.
Speaker 10: My first big concert was in nineteen ninety seven. Went
Speaker 10: to go see Pantera and that was amazing, phenomenal, and
Speaker 10: I was in the pit and it was total violence.
Speaker 10: It was ultra violence for sure. Let's see trench coats
Speaker 10: and the whole Columbine School shooting. In the nineties. Let's see,
Speaker 10: I referred to myself as a Satanist, and I was
Speaker 10: fighting all religion and all forms every chance I got,
Speaker 10: which was really the eighties had the Satanic panic, and
Speaker 10: then the TV shows like Oprah and Sally and all
Speaker 10: of them really brought the Satanism into our living rooms
Speaker 10: for our parents to absorb. And you know, I thought
Speaker 10: it really wasn't connected at the time, but now I
Speaker 10: see how that is what opened a door to the
Speaker 10: nineties and the nineties music and like Ninish Nails talking
Speaker 10: about yeah, killing Jesus, Jesus is bad, and then the
Speaker 10: acide saying about how Jesus is bad.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 10: Let's see. Oh, yep, that's when I learned to smoke cannabis,
Speaker 10: and cannabis at the beginning, it starts. I mean, it
Speaker 10: might be because I was young and I got older,
Speaker 10: but at the beginning it was downtown brown from there's
Speaker 10: sticks and stems, brown from gross weed. Cannabis was not
Speaker 10: so good, and that all of a sudden towards the
Speaker 10: middle to late nineties, and it gave way to beasters.
Speaker 10: Some of you might remember the beasters. These are BC
Speaker 10: buds British Columbia, and they were especially bred to have
Speaker 10: no smell. It's really weird. I mean they they would
Speaker 10: have no seed and it would be like sensy, you know,
Speaker 10: and nice big buds with lots of crystals. It's and
Speaker 10: it would come in two bags, like you'd get a pound,
Speaker 10: and it would be a blue bag and a clear bag,
Speaker 10: and it's It was weird how it came like that,
Speaker 10: and the blue bag was the better buds or something. Anyway,
Speaker 10: it it was. It flooded the market and people used
Speaker 10: to bring it down from Canada through the I lived
Speaker 10: in New England and they would come through the the
Speaker 10: Indian Territory of New York State. They would walk it
Speaker 10: over in big Duffel bags and yeah, that stuff it
Speaker 10: smelled like, Hey, it was weird and now that I
Speaker 10: think about it, it's gross. But I mean I was
Speaker 10: just glad to not be smoking the brown stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 10: there was that was big. Last was everywhere I didn't
Speaker 10: partake when I was young. I didn't I don't know,
Speaker 10: but everywhere it was. I mean I grew up in
Speaker 10: a college to kind of a I grew up in Westfield, Massachusetts,
Speaker 10: and there is a lot it was. It's weird, but
Speaker 10: it was near Amherst, mass and that was a big
Speaker 10: party school. For some reason, Westfield was like where it
Speaker 10: came from. But anyway, yeah, I guess it. The nineties
Speaker 10: started out neon like like the fourth season is Stranger Things,
Speaker 10: you know, Neon yellow and puffy, and then at the
Speaker 10: end it ended up very satanic, I mean, just satanism.
Speaker 10: It was the cool thing, you know. Let's see is
Speaker 10: for movies, there was Natural Born Killers that was huge,
Speaker 10: and Lost Highway David Lynch, Rest of Peace David Lynch,
Speaker 10: and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. That was the
Speaker 10: nineties America Online. Oh yeah, oh Ninth Gate. The nineties
Speaker 10: movies ended with the Ninth Gate and Eyes Wide Shut,
Speaker 10: and both of them filmed at that same mansion. Meant
Speaker 10: more towers. Let's see Kurt Cobain, the death of Kurt Cobain,
Speaker 10: that whole murder was a trauma, was a trauma ritual
Speaker 10: to make us cry. Same with Jerry. Jerry Garcia died
Speaker 10: a year later. There was that whole revival of the
Speaker 10: Raateful Dead, and then Jerry goes into rehab and dies
Speaker 10: like two weeks later something like that. That really made
Speaker 10: everybody cry. That was a big deal, and I think
Speaker 10: that got popular from the John Lennon one all of
Speaker 10: a sudden it was I don't know they maybe it's
Speaker 10: always been popular. But the Dark Occult wanted to kill
Speaker 10: our heroes, you know. I mean they destroyed Kurt like
Speaker 10: they Courtney destroyed Kurt with heroin long before they killed
Speaker 10: him with a shotgun. So that was just a slow
Speaker 10: burn of the killing of her king.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 10: So let's see, Yeah, I guess that's it. I mean,
Speaker 10: Julia here has he's doing a great job helping us
Speaker 10: to remember in the nineties, and I hope these few
Speaker 10: things is a little bit of a addition to that.
Speaker 10: And we hope he enjoyed that. And me out and
Speaker 10: make the dead thank you.
Speaker 8: And we are back. Did you enjoy the break? Took
Speaker 8: a nice pea, did a line of coke off my asshole?
Speaker 8: Hey now, hey, now, hey, no, is that a nineties song?
Speaker 2: People are gonna think you're serious?
Speaker 1: Uh dream.
Speaker 3: Is it a nineties song or not?
Speaker 2: Sounds super eighties?
Speaker 8: No way, let me look it up.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the song's called.
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna put in Hey, now, hey.
Speaker 2: You're an Austar. It's the nineties. Get pay.
Speaker 8: Oh this is what dreams are made of? Is that
Speaker 8: the lyrics? Now that's not Oh yeah, don't dream it's over.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty six, not even close. Fuck you totally. You
Speaker 2: can tell it's eighties listening to it.
Speaker 8: Okay, well did you know that because your oldest fuck.
Speaker 2: And I mean according to you, I'm an eighties kid.
Speaker 8: You are when when you were?
Speaker 2: You born eighty three? So I was three when that
Speaker 2: song came out. Okay, so you totally remember. I was
Speaker 2: sitting in my car seat.
Speaker 8: Going hey, okay. So, for all you Apple users out there,
Speaker 8: how do you like this one? In the nineties, Microsoft
Speaker 8: saved Apple from bankruptcy. Bill Gates announced days before Apple
Speaker 8: would have filed for bankruptcy that Microsoft would supply a
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty million dollar investment and jobs. Told
Speaker 8: the crowd, quote, we have to let go of the
Speaker 8: notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. Quote.
Speaker 8: So for all you fuckers out there that love your
Speaker 8: iPhone so much, that includes me, you have Bill Gates
Speaker 8: to thank for that. And I actually didn't.
Speaker 4: Know that at all.
Speaker 2: Did you. Uh, Now that you mentioned it, it's familiar.
Speaker 2: It's not some information I would have been able to
Speaker 2: pull out. But yeah, I do remember that was a thing.
Speaker 2: Apple was dog shit.
Speaker 8: Well, I think it's interesting because.
Speaker 2: I mean they definitely kind of were innovative in the
Speaker 2: very beginning and then they just fucking disappeared, but jobs
Speaker 2: ended up leaving and coming back and making the Apple
Speaker 2: we know today. So but we have Bill Gates to
Speaker 2: think for it, we have Bill Gates to think for everything.
Speaker 8: Well, I just think it's crazy, like everybody's so in
Speaker 8: love with their fucking iPhone and they talk all this shit,
Speaker 8: mad shit about Bill Gates. I'm guilty of it, obviously,
Speaker 8: but it's like he saved us so we can all
Speaker 8: enjoy our iPhones and iPads, MacBook pros.
Speaker 2: Who went out for father Bill.
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks Bill.
Speaker 2: Also in the nineties, I think that was maybe just
Speaker 2: an attempt of his to kind of create grab control
Speaker 2: of his competitor.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I mean that's another in that way. That's another
Speaker 2: big thing that happened in the nineties. Everybody knows this
Speaker 2: fucking nice guy who likes to wear sweaters and I
Speaker 2: have eighteen parasson he got in trouble for some shit.
Speaker 2: He fucking yeah. Before he switched from the suit and tie,
Speaker 2: he was being tried by the fucking federal government for
Speaker 2: monopoly and he was a prick. And then he used
Speaker 2: the Rockefeller model to move from that into his philanthropy,
Speaker 2: which has done such great work all around the world.
Speaker 8: Yeah the end, his philanthropy has cost millions their lives.
Speaker 8: But also in the nineties, we observed the birth of Google,
Speaker 8: our favorite search engine.
Speaker 2: Did you know that?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 8: Were you the first to google something?
Speaker 2: No, but we did. My high school was one of
Speaker 2: the first in the state of Idaho to get Internet. Oh,
Speaker 2: got in the school so fucking old in the school
Speaker 2: and it was it was in the goold. I mean
Speaker 2: back then the internet. I don't even think Google is
Speaker 2: a thing. This would have been like ninety five or six.
Speaker 8: Gosh, you're just aging yourself horribly.
Speaker 2: I'm a real nineties kid, not a coother. I'm a
Speaker 2: I'm not a double lots kid. And then I grew
Speaker 2: up in the nineties.
Speaker 8: My dirty ass hat says made in the nineties, made.
Speaker 2: In the nineties, grown in the double dots.
Speaker 8: What else? So something I wanted to get your opinion
Speaker 8: on that my brother mentioned in his nineties wrap up
Speaker 8: was the upsurge of people seeing UFO activity and the
Speaker 8: Phoenix lights.
Speaker 2: Which I actually he called them the Arizona lights.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's what he meant. Yes, sure, So I
Speaker 8: actually didn't know this was a thing until he was
Speaker 8: talking about it. And then you said you remembered it,
Speaker 8: so can you fill.
Speaker 2: Me in on the Well, it was like, shit, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say one hundred UFOs, but it was
Speaker 2: several and oh yeah, and they just set in formation
Speaker 2: and hovered above Phoenix for a long fucking time, like hours.
Speaker 2: Hundreds No, I said, I don't want to say a hundred,
Speaker 2: I would say dozens. What Oh yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: was a lot. And there's so many people that we
Speaker 2: talked about more it is, and I actually forgot all
Speaker 2: about it. I remember it was on the news for
Speaker 2: a while, but it kind of just left real quick.
Speaker 2: And then in the early two thousands they made a
Speaker 2: documentary about it that kind of jarred my memory. And
Speaker 2: it was a very odd incident. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: the drone shit that's going on now, except for back then,
Speaker 2: we just assumed this was aliens.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't believe in aliens, but I think this
Speaker 8: is interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, knowing what I know now, I'm sure it
Speaker 2: was us, right.
Speaker 8: So the Phoenix Light. So did you have any UFO
Speaker 8: encounters in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Not the nineties, but you have, I know, because all
Speaker 2: mine we're in the two thousands.
Speaker 8: But do you feel like there was an uptick in.
Speaker 2: UFO activity in the well, I think that it became
Speaker 2: big again in the zeitgeist. Fuck me for using that word,
Speaker 2: but well, the X Files kind of brought oh fucking
Speaker 2: X File the insurgence of this kind of stuff, and
Speaker 2: Son the.
Speaker 8: X Files, that's like real life shit that's happening.
Speaker 2: There's so many So the X Files is funny because
Speaker 2: I always tell people you could only watch a third
Speaker 2: of the episodes and get the main plot line that's
Speaker 2: all about like the whole alien thing, but that some
Speaker 2: of the better episodes were the little Monster of the
Speaker 2: Week episodes that were really just you know, filler episodes.
Speaker 2: And there was some shit in there that's straight up
Speaker 2: like as good as anything that was on Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: Black Goo, fucking Chimera, little fucking Imbred, like Hillbillies. Oh,
Speaker 2: the so many fucking great episodes. Have you watched it
Speaker 2: off and on?
Speaker 8: Like we should episode here and there?
Speaker 2: You know you should binge that shit because.
Speaker 8: While everyone else was watching X Files, I was watching
Speaker 8: Forensic Files.
Speaker 2: I was an X Files slash Unsolved Mysteries. Oh well,
Speaker 2: I did watch a lot of My mom didn't let
Speaker 2: me watch that stuff.
Speaker 8: But I did you watch it beyond Belief?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is. That sounds like
Speaker 2: a newer one.
Speaker 8: No, it was the nineties into the two thousands.
Speaker 2: Well like early nineties X Files Unsolved Mysteries.
Speaker 8: I can hear the theme song in my head.
Speaker 2: That's he not sleeping at all. Afterwards.
Speaker 8: Did you watch No, you didn't The Cryptkeeper? It Tales
Speaker 8: from the crypt Oh okay, yeah, I watched that too.
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live got over and then you'd switch over
Speaker 2: to Fox and Cryptkeeper would come on. So that's for
Speaker 2: me a memory of the nineties was SNL followed by
Speaker 2: Tells from the Cryptkeeper.
Speaker 8: But with all the UFO talk, I think now is
Speaker 8: a good time to segue into this next topic that
Speaker 8: you and I have kind of been excited to talk
Speaker 8: about because it's Heaven's Gate Cult, which I first learned
Speaker 8: about from an episode of Ancient Aliens. If you can
Speaker 8: believe that. But I have some stuff I've written down
Speaker 8: here that I want to run past you, So Heaven's Gate.
Speaker 8: On March twenty six, nineteen ninety seven, police officers stepped
Speaker 8: inside a rented ninety two hundred square foot mansion in
Speaker 8: the suburbs of San Diego, where they were immediately greeted
Speaker 8: by an overwhelmingly pungent odor. They soon discovered thirty nine
Speaker 8: dead bodies, each of which was laid in its bed,
Speaker 8: covered by a purple shroud.
Speaker 2: The bodies were.
Speaker 8: Dressed identically, even the same haircuts and wearing the same
Speaker 8: Nike tennis shoes, giving a whole new meaning to just
Speaker 8: do it. Heaven's Gate was a religious group founded in
Speaker 8: the United States on a belief in UFOs and aliens.
Speaker 8: They all had this mk ultra like stare, and the
Speaker 8: main guy looked straight up clockwork orange. And I'm sure
Speaker 8: you've seen him. You actually sent me a clip of
Speaker 8: him talking. He looks crazy as fuck. And so his
Speaker 8: name is Marshall Applewhite and he became obsessed with UFOs
Speaker 8: in the nineteen sixties. No surprise there there was a
Speaker 8: lot of fucking projects going on in the sixties, and
Speaker 8: then he met his cult co founder Bonnie Nettles in
Speaker 8: nineteen seventy two and soon became convinced that they were
Speaker 8: the two end time witnesses mentioned in Revelation eleven, and
Speaker 8: that the aliens were inhabiting their bodies and giving them visions.
Speaker 8: Apple White and Nettles were definitely channeling some kind of
Speaker 8: spirits in my opinion, and I also believe they conducted
Speaker 8: some type of mk ultra program on this dude. And
Speaker 8: wouldn't you know, Marshall apple White served in the United
Speaker 8: States Army And how odd Heaven's Gate received a massive
Speaker 8: influx of funds in late nineteen nineteen seventies of unknown origin.
Speaker 8: And what do we know of Bonnie Nettles his sidekick.
Speaker 8: Nettles is known to have studied astrology, theosophy, and the occult,
Speaker 8: and apple White and Nettles went by the collective of
Speaker 8: the two, as well as the singular names Bow and
Speaker 8: Peep and later dough and Teeth, along with Guinea and pig.
Speaker 8: But so they go around gathering cult followers, castrating themselves
Speaker 8: and practicing witchcraft, which inevitably led leads to the pinnacle
Speaker 8: moment in time where they decide in order to ascend
Speaker 8: into the spaceship and be with the aliens, they must
Speaker 8: drink poison and murder themselves. But first things first, they
Speaker 8: must also pack their luggage, shave their heads, wear all
Speaker 8: black pants and shirts with a custom logo on the
Speaker 8: breast pocket, and matching black and white Nikes. The logo,
Speaker 8: by the way, is a pyramid with shooting stars and
Speaker 8: the sun rising on the solstice, and it simply says
Speaker 8: Heaven's Gate Away Team. And as I stated before, they
Speaker 8: were covered in three by three purple shrouds and some
Speaker 8: even had plastic bags over their head. Somehow this just
Speaker 8: ends up as another Colt story, but I feel like
Speaker 8: there was much more going on. What are your thoughts
Speaker 8: and feelings on the Heaven's Gate.
Speaker 2: Cold, Well, this for me was a big one. Like Dahmer,
Speaker 2: I remember I was thirteen, probably almost fourteen when this happened,
Speaker 2: and it was like Dateline or one of those primetime
Speaker 2: news shows, and there's a cameraman walking down a hallway
Speaker 2: and there's just remember that rows of bunk beds and
Speaker 2: the purple covering and then the Nike shoes sticking out
Speaker 2: and that memory. I don't know. I was instantly terrified
Speaker 2: and fascinated, and I ended up in seventh grade doing
Speaker 2: a report on it. And now your conspiracy brain, well,
Speaker 2: this just seems like another Yeah, grabbed a guy in
Speaker 2: the army, in the army right, somewhat of a checkered history.
Speaker 2: And also there's so much into this one that I
Speaker 2: would probably at some point do a deep dive episode
Speaker 2: on it, just because as far as Colts go, this
Speaker 2: is what got me fascinated into Colts.
Speaker 8: Well, and then I said, in the seventy they get
Speaker 8: this huge influx of funds that of unknown origin. I
Speaker 8: think this was a fucking setup. I think they were
Speaker 8: getting money from the fucking government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure that Bow or Doe or Guinea
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call this fucking wide eyed BP
Speaker 2: fuck with this crazy brand. I mean, I Phil White.
Speaker 2: Other than the shot of the shoes and the purple shroud,
Speaker 2: the guy walking down the hallway, like I was talked
Speaker 2: about earlier, him just speaking and you don't even have
Speaker 2: to hear his voice, just to his I mean he's
Speaker 2: not exactly expressionless, but his eyes are just dead.
Speaker 8: Okay, let me let me expand on this theory that
Speaker 8: I have, okay, that this was a program exactly do
Speaker 8: you have you ever heard me cover Star Trek? I
Speaker 8: think so, and how I think it was part of
Speaker 8: like the Alice in Wonderland type programming, and that it's
Speaker 8: k one of the actresses in the original Star Trek.
Speaker 8: Her brother was a fucking Heaven's Gate Cult member dead.
Speaker 2: Dead Well to me, this reminds me of like if Scientology,
Speaker 2: Jonestown and Star Trek all fucked and.
Speaker 12: Had a baby.
Speaker 8: Well, do you not find it absolutely bizarre that a
Speaker 8: Star Trek actor's brother died in the Heaven's Gate Cult.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is weird. And this wasn't even Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: This was a few hours south in.
Speaker 8: San Diego, right, but still California.
Speaker 2: Though they what they did believe was that that I
Speaker 2: don't remember if it was hell Bop or Hally comment
Speaker 2: that there was a spaceship that if they killed themselves
Speaker 2: at the exact right time, their souls would ascend. But
Speaker 2: I mean, if you guys want to really dive into
Speaker 2: this and you want to listen to somebody talk about
Speaker 2: it who's very well researched and hilarious, it's Gordo and
Speaker 2: the crew from those conspiracy guys in Ireland. They do
Speaker 2: these fucking well just researched breakdowns that are sometimes five
Speaker 2: six hours long, and this one I listened to a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. I would I would recommend listening
Speaker 2: to that. But their whole thing was, I don't know,
Speaker 2: just so science fiction and it's just it. It kind
Speaker 2: of sticks out to me in the way that the
Speaker 2: whole thing just went down. It's just bizarre, and I
Speaker 2: was definitely psyoped by this as a young kid watching
Speaker 2: this shit on the news, So to me, that could
Speaker 2: have been the whole point of it. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the whole grand scheme of like this syop was,
Speaker 2: but I do believe that.
Speaker 8: You believe they were real people that died. I don't know,
Speaker 8: because honestly, they didn't show any bodies other than just
Speaker 8: feet sticking out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and why in the news would you show dead bodies?
Speaker 2: Make the link? No, not that, but just make the
Speaker 2: link like one of the victims or whatever they would
Speaker 2: call this. The sacrificial Lambs was a fucking brother of
Speaker 2: a star Trek actress. I mean, it just kind of
Speaker 2: all ties together something that something more grand. I agree
Speaker 2: with you I think.
Speaker 8: Even down to the costumes, it just seems otherworldly, like
Speaker 8: it just I don't believe in aliens. Obviously they did,
Speaker 8: but I'm just saying like this, the influx of funds,
Speaker 8: the Army connection, the Star Trek actors, brother the weird
Speaker 8: and he would post all these videos of himself talking
Speaker 8: and weird just well, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, you say he was posting them, but this was
Speaker 2: like late nineties when Internet wasn't it.
Speaker 8: He sent them out though, to like his followers or
Speaker 8: something like obviously he recorded him and was like distributing
Speaker 8: them in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I've been so busy with Princess Die
Speaker 2: and JFK Junior that I didn't even really revisit this one.
Speaker 2: But there is so many nuggets in there.
Speaker 8: I think that even the names that they went by, Bowen, Peep,
Speaker 8: Doe and t Guinea and Pig, Like, what the fuck
Speaker 8: is this?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but just when you have this dough
Speaker 2: and te printed out and you you mentioned it adds
Speaker 2: a whole new meaning to just do it what they
Speaker 2: could have been doing it. They're dough and tea.
Speaker 3: Like in that too, like.
Speaker 8: Black and white nikes. They were all had to have Nike.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the whole Saturn purple shrouds the shoes,
Speaker 2: because you never looked at black and white Nikes again
Speaker 2: in the same way I have a pear. Yeah, did
Speaker 2: they come off apple white?
Speaker 8: No that I googled the exact Nike that they were wearing.
Speaker 2: It was called and you ordered them on purpose?
Speaker 8: What mine are black and white Nike Cortes. These were
Speaker 8: something different. I can tell the listeners anybody who cares,
Speaker 8: they just.
Speaker 2: Looked like cheap and Nike basketball shoes.
Speaker 8: If you have date Nike shoes nineteen ninety three, Nike decades.
Speaker 2: Aka Heavens Gate Nikes, get your pet today.
Speaker 8: They probably just don't make those at all anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're worth a lot of money.
Speaker 8: Dude, if they do, I why do I want a pair?
Speaker 2: Because you're a sick fuck, I guess.
Speaker 8: But so there was some other aspect of this that
Speaker 8: I was going to run past you as just being
Speaker 8: totally off. I've seen videos of the cult members and
Speaker 8: he's like telling him to smile, and they all just
Speaker 8: have that face that look like they're they're not lights around,
Speaker 8: but nobody's home type of thing going.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're willing to castrate yourself scene.
Speaker 8: It's like, do you really think that these.
Speaker 2: People were not all of them purportedly did.
Speaker 8: Well, there are survivors that have done interviews and they
Speaker 8: said they left when it came time to cut their
Speaker 8: balls off.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have a line in the sand. That's good, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't you. I'll follow you to the fucking
Speaker 2: comment as long as I don't have to cut my
Speaker 2: balls off.
Speaker 8: At least he wasn't. Fucking all their wives have been
Speaker 8: hard to do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do remember he was one of the
Speaker 2: ones that was castrated. Who Marshall, right, Peep? I don't
Speaker 2: know if he bo pig. I don't know if Peep
Speaker 2: cut her clip off. I don't think I remember hearing
Speaker 2: anything about this. Oh my god.
Speaker 8: So he's bow and she's Peep.
Speaker 2: Well not after the fucking surgery, Oh my god.
Speaker 8: All right, Well, moving on next on the list. This
Speaker 8: is something you got illuminated by me about. It's next
Speaker 8: on the list. We're going to Tokyo, Japan. March twentieth,
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety five. Members of the Doomsday Cult place packages
Speaker 8: filled with a deadly suren nerve agent on five different
Speaker 8: trains all going to the heart of Tokyo. Cult members
Speaker 8: punctured the packages with sharpened umbrella tips and the attack
Speaker 8: killed thirteen people. And this attack caused temporary blindness and
Speaker 8: other types of sickness and over a thou people. And
Speaker 8: it was led by cult leader Shoko Asahara, who had
Speaker 8: visions of the end of the world given to him
Speaker 8: by entities. And when they rated his complex, you know
Speaker 8: what they find a military helicopter, explosives, weapons grade strains
Speaker 8: of anthrax and the Ebola virus, and mind controlled devices
Speaker 8: that he was developing. Where the fuck did he get
Speaker 8: this shit from. He also talked about dark conspiracies promulgated
Speaker 8: by the Jews, the Freemasons, the Dutch, and the British
Speaker 8: royal family. He was also said to have been able
Speaker 8: to levitate, among other things. Had you ever heard of this?
Speaker 8: You said you hadn't, But I mean no, it's pretty
Speaker 8: Craig Gray, Well.
Speaker 2: Usually when we do these episodes together, I don't get
Speaker 2: a peak about what you've highlighted and what we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about. But since we did this episode last time,
Speaker 2: thinking this was going to be one episode, I got
Speaker 2: a peek at this, so I ended up listening to
Speaker 2: a few podcasts about it and doing a little few
Speaker 2: articles on it.
Speaker 8: You are turning me on right now.
Speaker 2: And this one is fucking crazy because this Shoko Asahara,
Speaker 2: he was blind and when he was a little kid.
Speaker 2: But the thing is he was partially blind in one eye,
Speaker 2: mostly blind in one eye, completely blind in the other eye,
Speaker 2: so pretty fucking blind. But he went to a school
Speaker 2: for blind kids, and since he had slightly partial vision
Speaker 2: in one eye, he was top dog and he started
Speaker 2: bullying and extorting his fellow blind school members. What So,
Speaker 2: this guy was a shyster from the beginning. And you
Speaker 2: said that he was able to levitate, among other things,
Speaker 2: or said to have been. He made recruitment videos of
Speaker 2: himself fake levitating to get people to come in. And yeah,
Speaker 2: this one's crazy because these guys operated on a wide scale.
Speaker 2: They even had some fucking breakoff members go over to
Speaker 2: Australia and they had a bunker over there, and they
Speaker 2: were really bad at what they were doing because they
Speaker 2: always had like enough gas to kill like thousands of people,
Speaker 2: and when they did it, it was almost it was
Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of the Olympics that went on
Speaker 2: in Georgia where the backpack tipped over, and if it
Speaker 2: hadn't done that, it would have killed hundreds of people,
Speaker 2: but it tipped over, so it did minimal damage. Every
Speaker 2: fucking time these guys tried to do something, they fucked
Speaker 2: it up, and then when they got raided, they had
Speaker 2: enough fucking seren gas to kill like four million people
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 8: Holy shit, where did they get the bowl of IRUs?
Speaker 2: I mean, you can pick that up on fucking tim.
Speaker 8: You really think you can get weapons grade strains of anthrax,
Speaker 8: any bowl of virus at easily in a military helicopter.
Speaker 2: I mean it reminds me of picking up a fifty
Speaker 2: five gallon drum of acid in Yeah.
Speaker 8: Jeffrey Dahmer, doesn't it remind you of of Pip and
Speaker 8: Pop or whatever? Like, where are they getting this ship from?
Speaker 3: Where are they getting this ship from?
Speaker 8: Where's this blind guy getting this ship from?
Speaker 11: You had connections, okay, But to me, he's talking about
Speaker 11: dark conspiracies about the Jews and the Freemasons and the
Speaker 11: British royal family, and he's.
Speaker 8: Got a military helicopter, weapons grade strains of anthrax, any
Speaker 8: bowl of virus, and mind controlled devices that he's developing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to about that an employee. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: he's programmed to kind of kill.
Speaker 8: He's programmed to try to kill.
Speaker 2: He got thirteen at one point.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just saying, honey, like, when you look at
Speaker 8: this kind of stuff, you have to ask yourself, if
Speaker 8: you and I were going to start a cult tomorrow,
Speaker 8: how easily would it be for you to get a
Speaker 8: military helicopter, explosives, weapons grade strains of anthoxiny, bolevirus, and
Speaker 8: mind control devices.
Speaker 2: Like I could get that by three o'clock this afternoon.
Speaker 8: Like this is what this is why it's like, okay,
Speaker 8: even with Heaven's Gate cult when they rated the compound,
Speaker 8: they're not finding this stuff. They're finding some fucking Nike
Speaker 8: shoes and some fucking weirdos.
Speaker 2: But they're not finding this as weird as the Heaven's
Speaker 2: Gate folks were. They didn't want to hurt other people.
Speaker 2: They just wanted to catch the taxi cab Jane.
Speaker 8: Let's let's look at Jonestown. They weren't finding this.
Speaker 2: No, this is a unique one for sure, and it's
Speaker 2: not well known. No, it's not.
Speaker 8: Guess where I found out about.
Speaker 2: This ghost hunters, ain't you aliens.
Speaker 8: Because he was supposedly talking to extraterrestrial eye.
Speaker 2: Of course he was.
Speaker 8: Did you have anything he wanted to add about this
Speaker 8: fox stick?
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 8: Well, let's take a quick break and when we come back,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let you take the reins on the next
Speaker 8: couple of topics. Everybody sit tight, We'll be back in
Speaker 8: just a minute.
Speaker 9: Frightening development this morning, a chemical weapon, nerve gas, was
Speaker 9: released inside a crowded subway system in Okyo. Today March twentieth,
Speaker 9: nineteen ninety five, Tokyo rush hour. Five bags filled with saren,
Speaker 9: a deadly nerve agent first used as a chemical weapon
Speaker 9: by the Nazis, have been planted by a cult at
Speaker 9: the end of the age.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid I feel is ride upon us.
Speaker 4: This is the biggest cult story in the country.
Speaker 13: This was a voluntary situation. They may or may not
Speaker 13: have been influenced, but we'll never know that. But at
Speaker 13: this point this is considered a mass suicide investigation.
Speaker 9: Tindo gave us the tools.
Speaker 2: To brainwash ourselves, literally wash out our humanness.
Speaker 8: From my brain.
Speaker 12: The basic idea of Heaven's Gate was that you would
Speaker 12: chemically and biologically transform your body becoming a next level alien,
Speaker 12: and then you would physically get on board the UFO,
Speaker 12: which was often.
Speaker 2: To have it says Heaven's gate Away Teem thirty nine
Speaker 2: to Vema. No, you know, everybody wants to think, oh,
Speaker 2: those are those crazy people.
Speaker 12: I would never do that.
Speaker 2: Do I look in rainwash?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Not so fast.
Speaker 8: They were well educated, often from very good families.
Speaker 14: Me at a ten year old, I didn't believe that,
Speaker 14: and I would never ever speak.
Speaker 8: To them again. I am well and safe as of now.
Speaker 1: That was code when you come and home.
Speaker 9: Pah.
Speaker 12: I never t and Doe were paranoid in constantly on the.
Speaker 2: Move, and the FBI said, there's really not much we
Speaker 2: could do without this group. No, said, I'm gonna proceed
Speaker 2: in doing the gestation.
Speaker 8: Who's going to go first?
Speaker 2: Do exactly as I say, and you will not know death.
Speaker 2: By killing themselves, they ensured their immortality. They signed out hostilitiesta.
Speaker 2: Baby will say, who do you think you are?
Speaker 4: Is this it called? If I ever heard? But yes
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: It's it called. I mean, it's a call the colts.
Speaker 2: We'll see you in our next session. It's a very
Speaker 2: short time before our departure.
Speaker 8: And we are back I think I've done enough talking
Speaker 8: so far, so I'm gonna let Colby take this next
Speaker 8: segment over. But who do you want to start with?
Speaker 8: Who's your victim of choice? Princessder John F K J.
Speaker 2: Well, since John John died in ninety nine and Princess
Speaker 2: Died died in ninety seven.
Speaker 8: Ninety seven, I think I do know my mom was obsessed.
Speaker 2: Over it, and these two are kind of linked. I mean,
Speaker 2: the story is very similar, but we'll go with Princess
Speaker 2: Die first, I suppose, and they too even may have dated.
Speaker 2: Oh fun, as you'll come to find. But Princess Die
Speaker 2: is one of those stories that, Yeah, if you were
Speaker 2: alive in the nineties, it definitely was something you would
Speaker 2: have heard of, even just in passing. You could have
Speaker 2: been amish dropping your milk off at the store and
Speaker 2: he would have heard about it. It was all anybody
Speaker 2: was talking about from the time that she died. You
Speaker 2: can go back, and she was always in the tabloids.
Speaker 2: But her beginnings I just consider that her entire life
Speaker 2: of tragedy because she was born into money, some old asthma,
Speaker 2: and her family had familial ties with the royal family.
Speaker 2: And when I say familial. I should just say that
Speaker 2: they were kind of neighboring where Princess di grew up.
Speaker 2: It was bordering a property of the royal family, and
Speaker 2: Diana's grandmother was good friends with the queen. And so
Speaker 2: her story begins by not being wanted because she was
Speaker 2: born to a family that was desperately trying to have
Speaker 2: an heir to their little family. And it's the Spencer
Speaker 2: family and they had that old sheep money. Then goes
Speaker 2: back to like the fifteenth century. So Diana was born
Speaker 2: the third girl of the family. And God, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get this out of order, probably, but she was
Speaker 2: the third girl, and I don't remember her parents really
Speaker 2: wanted a boy, and they did have one that died
Speaker 2: ten hours after it was born, and I think that
Speaker 2: happened before Diana. And then she was born, and since
Speaker 2: she wasn't a boy, everybody blamed the mom and tried
Speaker 2: to like make her go to fertility clinics and get
Speaker 2: looked at and checked out by all these doctors because
Speaker 2: it was obviously her fault. And she was a product
Speaker 2: of divorce. Her parents divorced when she was young, and
Speaker 2: her mom kind of had an affair with.
Speaker 8: Somebody he inherit to spend her money though.
Speaker 2: Well she didn't need to.
Speaker 8: Well somebody needed to.
Speaker 2: Well, she didn't live in long enough to inherit.
Speaker 10: Shit.
Speaker 2: So the funny thing about Princess Die marrying Charles is
Speaker 2: that Charles dated Diana's older sister, Sarah, and so I
Speaker 2: think there's a thirteen.
Speaker 8: Year age gap, and so he had the hots for Sarah.
Speaker 2: Well, Charles only ever had the hots for Camilla, who Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he's currently married, right, but his parents and his
Speaker 2: entire well, I would just say the entire royal family
Speaker 2: expected the future king to marry somebody more prestigious than Camella.
Speaker 2: Camilla and Charles ran in similar circles. They dated until
Speaker 2: he was you know, he went to the Royal Navy
Speaker 2: and shipped off and then she ended up marrying somebody else,
Speaker 2: but he always was in love with her. They were
Speaker 2: like besties and romantic at one point before he left.
Speaker 2: So he comes back, she's married off, and I don't
Speaker 2: remember exactly how it happened, but they had an encounter
Speaker 2: when she was seventeen, and I don't think he was
Speaker 2: dating the sister anymore, but they were really pushing for this,
Speaker 2: you know. The royal family thought that she was suitable,
Speaker 2: and he ended up, you know, courting her, and I
Speaker 2: think they had hung out thirteen times before he proposed,
Speaker 2: and she was a virgin, and when all this was
Speaker 2: in action, they actually had her kind of Mormon style
Speaker 2: examined to make sure that she was indeed chased, and
Speaker 2: they never really were set up for success. He didn't
Speaker 2: want to be with her. He was carrying on with
Speaker 2: Camilla on the side. I mean, I think they'd been
Speaker 2: married for like a couple weeks and she was on
Speaker 2: a cruise with him and he was wearing these double
Speaker 2: sea cuff links and she said, oh, those are from Camilla,
Speaker 2: aren't they And he said, yeah, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2: You know, he kind of just put her in her place.
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of interviews of them too, like
Speaker 8: before they were or while they were engaged, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: love whatever that is.
Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up. They asked what
Speaker 2: it's like to be in or they said are you
Speaker 2: in love? And she said, well, yes, of course, and
Speaker 2: he said love whatever that is. He said, that's really
Speaker 2: objective or subjective, and her face just fucking melts when
Speaker 2: he says that, and She at first was living in
Speaker 2: her own place while they were engaged, but the relentless
Speaker 2: paparazzi swarming started and she ended up moving into the palace.
Speaker 2: And when they married, she thought like, this is fairy tale,
Speaker 2: this is what I've always wanted. But she just found
Speaker 2: nothing but loneliness and nobody interacted with her, and he
Speaker 2: was always gone, and she s she developed a severe
Speaker 2: case of bolimia. I think when she tried on her
Speaker 2: dress they had to like go down several sizes by
Speaker 2: the time they got married because she had been, you know,
Speaker 2: purging food. And this would all come out later in interviews.
Speaker 2: She gave some candid interviews where she came out about
Speaker 2: suicidal ideations. She actually threw herself down a flight of
Speaker 2: stairs when she was pregnant with William. She did it
Speaker 2: in front of everybody. I mean, she was just calling
Speaker 2: out for help in every way possible. And I mean
Speaker 2: their marriage was just shit, and he was carrying on
Speaker 2: with Camilla the whole time. And I mean, have you
Speaker 2: heard a tam pacskate?
Speaker 8: What so like tamps?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: So it was a phone call between Camilla and Charles
Speaker 2: that the press got a hold of somehow, and he's
Speaker 2: they're they're just kind of dirty talking, and then he
Speaker 2: said that he just wished he could live in her
Speaker 2: trousers and that would be so much easier. And she's like, oh, Charles,
Speaker 2: and she said maybe you could come back as a
Speaker 2: pair of my panties or something like that, and he said, oh,
Speaker 2: that'd be just right. Or how about I come back
Speaker 2: as a tampon or no, he said tampacs, I mean,
Speaker 2: and this carried on like she's like, well, why don't
Speaker 2: you just come back as the whole box so you
Speaker 2: could just be in me over and I mean, this
Speaker 2: is like fucking weird ass British dirty.
Speaker 8: Talk, and I mean, come back as my tampon.
Speaker 2: And the guy's got some kind of period fit.
Speaker 8: They got bloodlust, all of them, the fucking royal families
Speaker 8: there you go, bloodsuckers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when she was pregnant, they actually gas lit
Speaker 2: her when she was getting mourning sickness and shit because
Speaker 2: apparently lizards don't get it because none of them had
Speaker 2: ever experienced it before. And they said she was just
Speaker 2: acting out for attention. And they said, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I mean I could go on and on about this shit.
Speaker 8: But let's agree first off that the royal family are
Speaker 8: a bunch of evil, satanic lizard possible lizard people.
Speaker 2: Well, that's neither here nor there. I kind of err
Speaker 2: on that side myself. And if you want to get
Speaker 2: into that, I think, is it David Iyke that had
Speaker 2: the supposedly she witnessed them they're shape shifting and sucking blood.
Speaker 8: I mean person who wrote about it, their name was
Speaker 8: something Arizona Wilder or something like that. Anyways, there there
Speaker 8: was a story where Princess Diana said that they do, like,
Speaker 8: let's let she said, they shape shift and drink eat kids.
Speaker 8: But let's just let's just take that part out of it.
Speaker 8: Would it be outside of the realm of possibility that
Speaker 8: they're they're abducting children and doing this shit to them.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's out of it.
Speaker 8: I mean there's mass graves in like Canada and shit,
Speaker 8: where they just would go to schools and empty them
Speaker 8: out and like nobody'd ever see the kids again.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's the thing about Diana as a mother, Like, well,
Speaker 2: just to backtrack a little bit, she at first the
Speaker 2: press really tore her to shreds. No matter what she did,
Speaker 2: she would wear a dress that was more modern than
Speaker 2: what they were used to, and they would say her
Speaker 2: her breasts were practically falling out of her dress and
Speaker 2: she's got like a scarf around it. I mean it
Speaker 2: was like a strapless dress.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like fucking Kardashian shit or Kanye's new wife.
Speaker 2: But that's but that's how they acted, right, And then
Speaker 2: she ended up making friends. God, what was her name, Francis.
Speaker 2: I think she was married to the fucking creepy ass
Speaker 2: Peto Andrew, and they became like kind of just normal
Speaker 2: women having fun. They would go out on the town
Speaker 2: and do stuff and you know, fuck with the paparazzi.
Speaker 2: And at that point in time, she was kind of
Speaker 2: trying to make a name for herself. And she was
Speaker 2: she was always from the beginning of her life. I mean,
Speaker 2: she like volunteered in old folks' homes, and she was
Speaker 2: a nanny and a kindergartener teacher, a kindergarten teacher, and
Speaker 2: she always had this like philanthropic streak in her and
Speaker 2: not like the fake philanthropic that covers up, you know,
Speaker 2: what the shit that they're really doing. She was actually
Speaker 2: someone who cared about people, and she made like an
Speaker 2: effort to go out and like humanize AIDS patients, and
Speaker 2: she homeless people, sex, traffic victims, just all of it.
Speaker 2: She was just right there and kind of you know,
Speaker 2: the royal family, they would go on these tours through
Speaker 2: Africa and stuff and just wave at all the poor people.
Speaker 2: But she was actually out there trying to make a
Speaker 2: difference and she Do.
Speaker 8: You think that Diana is an actual and literal sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll get into that, because just to skip
Speaker 2: ahead a little bit, all the infidelity on his end
Speaker 2: started coming out, and she started having affairs of her own,
Speaker 2: and I mean, just give you a little bit of
Speaker 2: an idea of what a creep Charles is.
Speaker 8: Oh, dude, just look at it.
Speaker 2: When the second son was born, he really wanted a girl.
Speaker 2: And the first thing he said when he saw Harry was,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's a boy. And ew, it's got
Speaker 2: red hair.
Speaker 8: And because some lizardfucker with the red hair, Jean fuck Diana.
Speaker 2: And she had red hair in her family. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people speculate that this military guy, James Hewitt,
Speaker 2: he was a redhead.
Speaker 8: I always heard that her horse shocking Fuctor.
Speaker 2: Well, that was one of the guys. So she had
Speaker 2: a long list of people that she was kind of
Speaker 2: confiding in, and some of it became romantic. But this
Speaker 2: was well after the fact that she was shunned by
Speaker 2: Charles and he was always, you know, everything was Camilla
Speaker 2: with him, and she was very candid about this. She
Speaker 2: had an interview, she actually did a series of interviews
Speaker 2: where she used her hairstylist as an intermediary between a
Speaker 2: journalist's friend of his, and she knew that she was
Speaker 2: being watched, so she got this guy. Oh no, he
Speaker 2: was a doctor. Excuse me, it was a doctor of hers.
Speaker 2: She actually sought out this journalist so she could tell
Speaker 2: her side of the story, but she wasn't willing to
Speaker 2: let the author use her as a source. And he
Speaker 2: thought at this point it was just going to be
Speaker 2: an article, but she spilled so much that it became
Speaker 2: a look it's like Princess Diana and her own words
Speaker 2: or something, and it was a band. It was a
Speaker 2: banned book good and she couldn't claim that she was
Speaker 2: the one that was giving the goods. But I think
Speaker 2: there was a documentary after her death that came out
Speaker 2: and you can actually hear all the audio of all
Speaker 2: the stuff she was given him, and I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: not all in there, but the good stuff probably made
Speaker 2: it in there. Anyway, they ended up separating and finally
Speaker 2: divorcing on the Queen's request. Actually she had like granted
Speaker 2: them permission to divorce and thought it was the best thing,
Speaker 2: which was unheard of in the royal family. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people wanted to like make it so that
Speaker 2: Charles couldn't be king that it would skip to William
Speaker 2: because of this, That's how scandalous it was. But she
Speaker 2: goes through a long list of potential suitors, she kind
Speaker 2: of just starts, you know, being her own person after
Speaker 2: the divorce, and she had she maintained title, and it
Speaker 2: kind of seems like her and Queen Elizabeth had some
Speaker 2: kind of like I don't know, rapport if not like
Speaker 2: tight knit relationship. And I don't know. I never watched
Speaker 2: the Netflix series.
Speaker 8: I'm not interested in it because I think it's all wise.
Speaker 2: Well, you can watch Bridgerton.
Speaker 8: That's all wise and they're proud of it.
Speaker 2: Anyway, you can watch that show to get some insight
Speaker 2: on this. If you believe that that show's really. I
Speaker 2: haven't watched any of it myself.
Speaker 8: But I know that I can't be lied to my face.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm not going to watch it either. But anyway,
Speaker 2: she ends up with this guy, Dodie Alfayed, and she
Speaker 2: knew the father first, and apparently they were pretty close
Speaker 2: and probably going to Mary and I mean, when I've
Speaker 2: done digging on this, I don't find out much good
Speaker 2: about him, and that maybe she was just going to
Speaker 2: be in another trap, but that would never happen because
Speaker 2: of the car crash everybody knows about. But that day
Speaker 2: was kind of weird because they were trying to outrun
Speaker 2: the paparazzi all day long. They ended up like switching
Speaker 2: where they were going to have dinner, and they used
Speaker 2: like a decoy car to get the paparazzi away from him.
Speaker 2: Now what happens next is kind of open for interpretation.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have several different ideas. But their
Speaker 2: decoy car didn't work and they were kind of swarmed
Speaker 2: and their driver, Henri Paul, who had spelled Henri but
Speaker 2: he's French. He was the driver and a lot of
Speaker 2: people say he has ties to French intelligence, which is
Speaker 2: I mean, this whole thing gets really weird because the
Speaker 2: bodyguard of alfa Ed is also kind of a scandalous character.
Speaker 2: He's the only person that survived the car crash. But
Speaker 2: to backtrack a little bit, they leave dinner and I
Speaker 2: think the bodyguard was employed by Mohammed, the father of Dodi,
Speaker 2: and he's in there and the driver and Dodie are
Speaker 2: killed on impact. When this car crashes, and how it crashes,
Speaker 2: nobody really knows because witness testimony sees them go into
Speaker 2: a tunnel and some people report that there was like
Speaker 2: up to six motorcycles chasing them and there was bright
Speaker 2: flashes in the tunnel. And then there's these cars that
Speaker 2: they recovered after this all went down. One of them
Speaker 2: belongs to this guy, oh man, what's his name, Anderson,
Speaker 2: and he was a paparazzi guy that claimed that he
Speaker 2: had photos of the crash and he ends up dying.
Speaker 8: Okay, well, there you go.
Speaker 2: He ends up dying years later by shooting himself in
Speaker 2: the head before and setting his car on fire.
Speaker 8: Okay, so.
Speaker 2: Who knows. You know, it's a Kennedy style suicide. So
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that goes on, and this
Speaker 2: car crashes Diana was an avid seatbelber and she was
Speaker 2: not buckled in. I don't know if any of them were.
Speaker 2: I think the only one buckled in actually was the bodyguard,
Speaker 2: who in a situation like this would not be buckled in.
Speaker 2: He survives, and his face is just maimed and he
Speaker 2: has amnesia. He doesn't remember it. Oh and so apparently
Speaker 2: Dody and the driver die on impact. Diana is conscious,
Speaker 2: and there's a doc who witnesses this wreck and he
Speaker 2: turns around and Diana is conscious.
Speaker 3: What did they hit?
Speaker 2: They hit like the a pillar, the median inside the tunnel,
Speaker 2: and they were got hard. Well, at one point he
Speaker 2: was said to have been going over one hundred miles
Speaker 2: per hour. Henri the driver. Why they were trying to
Speaker 2: outrun the paparazzis, that's the story.
Speaker 8: And because they were so inexperienced with paparazzi.
Speaker 2: Well, he also was an alcoholic, and they said, I know.
Speaker 2: They did an autopsy on the driver and they said
Speaker 2: that he had three times the legal limit, but doesn't
Speaker 2: make him drunk. There's also security footage you can see
Speaker 2: at the hotel where he is not drunk. He's fine.
Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. Like three times the legal limit
Speaker 8: for an alcoholic is like a fucking Shirley tim Well,
Speaker 8: and get this shit.
Speaker 2: He also had carbon monoxide. Oh my god, the level
Speaker 2: of somebody who would have like strapped themselves into the
Speaker 2: car and you know, in the garage to commit suicide.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people who think his body
Speaker 2: was swapped out and he was the assassin. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is like, this is all conjecture. You can go
Speaker 2: down all sorts of rabbit holes.
Speaker 8: Well, the tunnel was something that called the Passage of
Speaker 8: the Moon, and like there's all this weirdest symbolism around
Speaker 8: that tunnel, and like any well you want to get
Speaker 8: into Goddess Diana and all that, and she's the moon symbolism.
Speaker 2: Well, there's people who think that she faked her death
Speaker 2: and she don't know this one. I'm not willing to
Speaker 2: say one way or the other. I think that she.
Speaker 8: Faked her death or she was a sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 2: Well, there's so many things, like the royal family would
Speaker 2: have never wanted the stepfather of the errors of the
Speaker 2: throne to be a Muslim, and she may have been pregnant,
Speaker 2: according to some accounts. They also embalmed her right away,
Speaker 2: which is odd, and her whole death is weird because
Speaker 2: they were five minutes away from a hospital. They didn't
Speaker 2: get her there until almost two hours after the crash.
Speaker 8: So do you think that's to swap the body out
Speaker 8: or do you think that's to make sure she was dead?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because when she was found on the scene,
Speaker 2: she was in and out of consciousness. She suffered a
Speaker 2: heart attack. Her last words were, oh my god, what's happened?
Speaker 2: And they passed two hospitals on the way to the
Speaker 2: one where she ended up, but they claimed that the
Speaker 2: other hospitals didn't have what it would take. But also
Speaker 2: if you look at like where this happened in Paris,
Speaker 2: they don't have the same like scoop them up and
Speaker 2: get him to the hospital as as soon as possible.
Speaker 2: They try to like stabilize on the scene. But to me,
Speaker 2: the fact that it took them two hours to get
Speaker 2: her to the hospital and then by the time she
Speaker 2: gets there, she's got so much internal bleeding and her
Speaker 2: heart has like shifted completely over and apparently she was savable,
Speaker 2: but it was very minimal chances that they could have
Speaker 2: saved her. I mean that's the official story as far.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I find the whole thing to be weird.
Speaker 8: With the crash, they crashed into the side wall.
Speaker 2: It was either like the media, yeah, well, and it
Speaker 2: did that type of dance. They say that one of
Speaker 2: the paparazzi may have clipped the car. I mean, there
Speaker 2: was two cars that fled the scene, and one of
Speaker 2: them was that guy I was talking about earlier. They
Speaker 2: ended up having the Clinton style death.
Speaker 8: The shot to the head in the burning car. Yeah, honey,
Speaker 8: this just does not look with your conspiracy eyes and
Speaker 8: tell me that this was just a paparazzi gone wrong
Speaker 8: car accident.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't buy the official story.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 8: She may have been pregnant too. That was talk, and
Speaker 8: then Elton John shushes up the Marilyn Monroe song for
Speaker 8: what you don't know about that? He changed the lyrics
Speaker 8: to Candle in the Wind, performed it at her funeral.
Speaker 2: What words did you change, Norman Jy and to princess?
Speaker 8: But I can show you.
Speaker 2: I mean, regardless, she was arguably the most famous person
Speaker 2: on the planet. When this how happened, it was a
Speaker 2: shock to the world and just to see that, you know,
Speaker 2: go watch the heart felt.
Speaker 8: He called it Goodbye England's Rose, but it was the
Speaker 8: same as Candle in the Wind Candle in the Wind
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety seven. He like re released it with lyrics
Speaker 8: for a Princess di he.
Speaker 2: Re released it. This wasn't just like a live tribute.
Speaker 8: Remastered. But anyways, see there he is at the funeral.
Speaker 8: What were you saying she was a sacrificial lamb to me? Yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean, look at Kate, what they've done with her.
Speaker 8: I don't even know if that's I think she probably
Speaker 8: died a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some weirdness there for sure. And I can't
Speaker 2: imagine being one of these boys. They were, you know,
Speaker 2: they lost their momd in some of the most formative
Speaker 2: years of their lives. Harry talks about how he disassociated
Speaker 2: at her funeral, He left his body, and you got
Speaker 2: to wonder, like what they think, what if they buy
Speaker 2: into any of the conspiracy.
Speaker 8: Think William is just as bad as Charles at this
Speaker 8: point with the weird stuff that's went on with Kate.
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's another thing, is like those kids
Speaker 2: after she died didn't really stand a chance. She was
Speaker 2: making them go to public school. She was doing all
Speaker 2: this stuff that was so unorthodox for the royal family.
Speaker 2: She wanted them to have a somewhat normal upbringing, to
Speaker 2: not have everything handed to them on a silver platter.
Speaker 2: And then you can only imagine what life was like
Speaker 2: for them after she died.
Speaker 8: And then Charles was just so fast to fucking bring
Speaker 8: Camilla in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, she was always there unofficially. So why not.
Speaker 8: Should we move on to JFKJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's a good segue to
Speaker 2: mention like, what do William and Harry think of their
Speaker 2: mother's death? I can tell you for goddamn sure that
Speaker 2: JFK Jr. Doesn't think that what went down with his
Speaker 2: dad and his uncle was how we were led to believe.
Speaker 8: Well, see, there you go.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy in tandem with Princess Diana, he
Speaker 2: was born a celebrity. I mean, Princess Diana wasn't she
Speaker 2: became one jfkid Junior. I think he was born like
Speaker 2: weeks after they moved into the White House. He was
Speaker 2: three years old. At his dad's funeral, there's the famous
Speaker 2: picture of him saluting the coffin, and I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't even know.
Speaker 8: And then he just grew up to be just hot.
Speaker 2: This is a sexy guy, you know, just like Princess
Speaker 2: Diana doing this very condensed. This could be its own episode.
Speaker 2: But it's also I listened to a few series on it,
Speaker 2: and it's just crazy to me how a lot of
Speaker 2: these people, a lot of these researchers, point out everything
Speaker 2: weird about it and then come to the conclusion that
Speaker 2: it was just pilot error. John John was reckless. He was,
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. But I mean, this guy
Speaker 2: grew up knowing that some of his earliest memories were
Speaker 2: of his dad dying, and then he would have been
Speaker 2: eight when his uncle died. And I mean his mom
Speaker 2: the whole thing. His mom just very much controlled his
Speaker 2: entire life, even when he was an adult. And every
Speaker 2: fucking Kennedy was put into the limelight, whether they wanted
Speaker 2: to be or not. I mean, his cousins, they were
Speaker 2: just all fuck ups, including fucking RFK Junior.
Speaker 8: And was he close with RFK J.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were close. They definitely, you know,
Speaker 2: the whole Kennedy clan, it's like a tight little fucking mafia.
Speaker 8: It's American Royalty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she Jackie put the camelot myth into
Speaker 2: the stratosphere after JFK died, and that stuck. I mean,
Speaker 2: to this day, it sticks.
Speaker 8: Do you think that JFKJ really dated Princess.
Speaker 2: Di They hung out a couple of times, enough to
Speaker 2: get their pictures taken together, enough to get his dick wet.
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. But he dated many people. He
Speaker 2: dated Daryl Hannah, He dated Sarah Jessica Parker for over
Speaker 2: a year. Yeah, looks like a horse.
Speaker 8: Did she looks like a witch?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: My god?
Speaker 8: In her long horse face. No, okay, I just wanted
Speaker 8: to make sure I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 2: It's got a certain cuteness about her.
Speaker 8: Horses.
Speaker 2: Watch the movie Striking Distance with Bruce.
Speaker 8: Willis, Watch the movie Failure to Launch.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can bash Sarah just a perker all
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Apparently whatever she's got, whatever she's got going on down there,
Speaker 2: apparently was enough to make the Fuse the most eligible
Speaker 2: bachelor in the entire fucking planet dated her for almost
Speaker 2: a years.
Speaker 8: Fueller's eligible.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying I think she's They called JFK Junior
Speaker 2: the most eligible bat.
Speaker 8: No, I know, but she ended up with Ferris Bueller.
Speaker 8: So obviously she's not too hot. Have you seen Broderts
Speaker 8: Like he looks like.
Speaker 2: A toad wouldn't want Ferris Bueller.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, if Jennifer Aniston is trans, there's no
Speaker 8: fucking way on that. Sarah Jessica Parker as a puss.
Speaker 2: You know, not everybody who's not a ten is a
Speaker 2: fucking trance dude.
Speaker 8: She's got a fucking horse face in a long slender.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean she's trans man body.
Speaker 8: Okay, anyways, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not sticking up for All I'm saying
Speaker 2: is JFKJA was fine with it for a year.
Speaker 8: Okay, But if you're gonna pick out all the girls
Speaker 8: he dated, you're going for Sarah Jessica p Sure.
Speaker 2: I mean no, you're asking which one I would go for.
Speaker 2: I mean he ended up marrying a hot one.
Speaker 8: Okay, good dude. That gives me some hope for him
Speaker 8: that his ficker wasn't off.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're just talking about a lot of useless
Speaker 2: facts here, But I'm gonna try to give like a
Speaker 2: very quick cliff note version of his life. You know,
Speaker 2: always in his dad's shadow, grew up as any Kennedy
Speaker 2: did lots of privilege. Always he wanted to be kind
Speaker 2: of his own man and always dictated by his mother,
Speaker 2: and she did not like that he was doing a
Speaker 2: lot of the things he was doing. He I mean,
Speaker 2: he lost his Secret Service protection at a certain age.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's sixteen or eighteen. I've kind
Speaker 2: of heard conflicting reports on that. But he didn't give
Speaker 2: a fuck. He didn't want it. He loved fucking riding
Speaker 2: his bike all around New York City in the height
Speaker 2: of like the fucking bad crime time of New York City,
Speaker 2: which would kind of bite him in the ass because
Speaker 2: he had in his life three foiled kidnapping plots. One
Speaker 2: of them happened when he was a little kid, one
Speaker 2: of them happened when he was in college, and the
Speaker 2: latest happened when he was an adult in New York City.
Speaker 2: Griselda Blanco, the Black Widow, I mean, you probably all
Speaker 2: anybody who follows like the Narcos kind of stories on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I think they gave her a spin off, but she
Speaker 2: won to kidnap him at some point. Look into that.
Speaker 2: That what's kind of fun to look into. But he
Speaker 2: went to law school because it was expected of him.
Speaker 2: He failed the bar exam a couple times before he
Speaker 2: finally passed it, but he kind of wanted to do
Speaker 2: his own thing, and he really was never given the
Speaker 2: blessing for anything outside of going into politics as far
Speaker 2: as his mother was concerned, and she did not like
Speaker 2: that he was parading around with the likes of Horseface
Speaker 2: Parker and Daryl Hannah and you know, like I said earlier,
Speaker 2: he was even dated to or he was even rumored
Speaker 2: to have maybe dated Princess die at one point. But
Speaker 2: his mom died I think in ninety four, and that Reallyckie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that really kind of cemented things for him on what
Speaker 2: he wanted to do with his life. And he ended
Speaker 2: up kind of hooking up with somebody his mom probably
Speaker 2: would have approved of. She wasn't in the limelight. She
Speaker 2: was in the fashion industry, like a you know, low
Speaker 2: tier name. And this is Carolyn Bassett and she was
Speaker 2: an intern at Calvin Klein when he met her, and
Speaker 2: he courted her pretty hard. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: long they were seeing each other, if they got married
Speaker 2: as quickly as Princess Diane Charles did, but it was
Speaker 2: bad news from the beginning. Too, like she ended up
Speaker 2: being kind of I don't know, some people call her crazy.
Speaker 2: I know she kind of had a cocaine habit. He
Speaker 2: was kind of anti drug, even though he was said
Speaker 2: to have been a drinker and when he drank, he
Speaker 2: could not handle his liquor. He was said to have
Speaker 2: done some things and said some things and under the
Speaker 2: influence of alcohol. And this one I did not know
Speaker 2: I'm about until very recently, and it was Jim Brewer.
Speaker 2: You know Jim Brewer. He used to be on SNL.
Speaker 2: He started his own podcast. Oh He's big. But Heath said.
Speaker 2: There was this letter that the FBI had that was
Speaker 2: sent to Joe Biden, and it said, Joe Biden, you're
Speaker 2: a trader to this country. You must die, signed JFK Jr. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the FBI was alerted to this and they buried it.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people say that what happened was
Speaker 2: the old fucking crime bill that Biden pushed through really hard, like.
Speaker 8: The actual Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Not this no Joe Biden back when this was back
Speaker 2: when he was a senator. He pushed for this really
Speaker 2: harsh crime bill that kind of led to all of
Speaker 2: the you know, minorities being incarcerated for minor crimes like
Speaker 2: three felonies, you're in prison for life. And the Kennedys
Speaker 2: were against this. Ted Kennedy railed hard against this on
Speaker 2: the Senate floor. So a lot of people think what
Speaker 2: happened was Ted was kind of close with JFK. Junior
Speaker 2: and he probably vented to him, and JFK. Junior was
Speaker 2: like a man of the people and he probably saw
Speaker 2: this as a bad thing. So a lot of people
Speaker 2: speculate this letter was in reaction to the crime bill.
Speaker 2: But this also kind of like when I looked into
Speaker 2: this really hard, it just kind of made me think,
Speaker 2: like this is why the JFK Jr. With the whole
Speaker 2: Q thing is interesting because Biden's in there and then
Speaker 2: this plane crash We're going to talk about here in
Speaker 2: a second. With a lot of the stuff that went on,
Speaker 2: like I could see JFK. Junior faking his death, Like
Speaker 2: a list of people that I could see wanting to
Speaker 2: like fake their death and step away. JFK Junior, Michael Jackson,
Speaker 2: maybe Princess die. There's there's a number of them. And
Speaker 2: he to me, I mean, when you hear what I'm
Speaker 2: going to say in a second, it's it kind of
Speaker 2: seems like it could have been that way. But anyway,
Speaker 2: that whole Biden letter thing, the FBI, they didn't pursue
Speaker 2: it once they kind of so there's some journalists that
Speaker 2: got some FOYA requests sent in. They wanted everything that
Speaker 2: the FBI had declassified on JFK. Junior, and they found
Speaker 2: that letter, and I don't think it was known about
Speaker 2: before that. They also found out about that plot of
Speaker 2: Griselda Blanco to kidnap him. She wanted to kidnap JFK Jr.
Speaker 2: They said he always rode his bike in New York City.
Speaker 2: He would be easy to grab and then she was
Speaker 2: again to leverage that to get out of the country
Speaker 2: and then if she could, she would keep him as
Speaker 2: a sex.
Speaker 8: Slave because he looking guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was a lethal twat. I mean she
Speaker 2: can had like six husbands all died. They called her
Speaker 2: the black Widow. But she wanted to kidnap JFK Junior apparently.
Speaker 2: But anyway, his marriage with Carolyn kind of falls apart,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I guess she's a coked up WHI well,
Speaker 2: and she never could handle the paparazzi. She was kind
Speaker 2: of like, princess died, but no, I can't, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if she didn't know what she was getting into.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of things that happened when they
Speaker 2: first got married. They kind of really started to get
Speaker 2: to know each other. And I think she had an
Speaker 2: affair with an underwear model, and that leads me into
Speaker 2: another thing. So after his mom died, remind me about
Speaker 2: the underwear model, because I'm gonna spiral into this other thing.
Speaker 2: He he was devastated, but he also told some close
Speaker 2: friends that even though this was just, you know, debilitating
Speaker 2: for him, he felt free for the first time his
Speaker 2: entire life. So he starts this magazine called George, and
Speaker 2: it's called George because he had told some close friends
Speaker 2: that he wanted to rub it in the face of
Speaker 2: the person who he think killed his dad, and he
Speaker 2: named hw really but he also on the very first
Speaker 2: edition of George, had Cindy Crawford, who was another person
Speaker 2: he dated, dressed scantily with the George Washington wig on.
Speaker 2: And so they called the magazine George. And this was
Speaker 2: his passion project, and it fucking took off like wildfire.
Speaker 2: On that first release, all the fucking liberals wanted that
Speaker 2: on their coffee table, and he thought, here I am,
Speaker 2: I've made my mark. Sadly, it starts to decline, like
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. The Internet was just coming on. Magazines were
Speaker 2: kind of on their way out, and it was a
Speaker 2: magazine that was like the kind of like celebrity end
Speaker 2: of politics. It was like celebrity as entertainment. And it
Speaker 2: was kind of a weird thing because he would sprinkle
Speaker 2: little things in there. He had an article written by
Speaker 2: Oliver Stone, who famously made the movie JFK, about Garrison
Speaker 2: going up against the Warrant Commission. And he also had
Speaker 2: an article that was talking about how the Masade assassinated
Speaker 2: a prime minister of Palestine.
Speaker 8: Magazine, Yes, good for fucking.
Speaker 2: And sadly the magazine kind of started to dwindlecast well,
Speaker 2: he might when he comes back and becomes Trump's vice president.
Speaker 2: So anyway, he kind of hits this point his life
Speaker 2: where the magazine's failing. He doesn't know what he's going
Speaker 2: to do, and there starts to be whispers about him
Speaker 2: getting into politics like his dead mother always wanted. It's
Speaker 2: kind of funny because he dated the girl his mom
Speaker 2: probably would have approved of over everybody else after she died,
Speaker 2: and he started talking about possibly dipping his tone into politics,
Speaker 2: which is what his mom always wanted.
Speaker 8: Maybe he felt bad after she died.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he did.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: The story goes in the conspiracy crowd that he talked
Speaker 2: about running for senator of New York, which if he did,
Speaker 2: he would have been running against Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 8: Oh shit.
Speaker 2: Another fun fact is that Trump and JFK Junior were
Speaker 2: supposedly tight and they ah, this is like when it
Speaker 2: gets all kiwi. So there's like it were besties. I
Speaker 2: don't know if they were besties, but they were close
Speaker 2: and there was like I think it was frantic. Missy
Speaker 2: was telling me about how there was like some interview
Speaker 2: footage where they were not interview footage, but just like
Speaker 2: paparazzi on the street where they're walking together and they're like,
Speaker 2: who's going to run for president first? And Trump's like, oh,
Speaker 2: not me.
Speaker 8: It's a JFK.
Speaker 2: And look how history has ended up. But a lot
Speaker 2: of people think that the whole plane crash happened because
Speaker 2: the Clintons didn't want any competition. Now, the more research
Speaker 2: I've done, there is a lot of people in his
Speaker 2: inner circle that were saying, no, he was not going
Speaker 2: to run for senator. He was eyeballing governor and he
Speaker 2: was going to do that and then run for president
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four. So if you are one
Speaker 2: of those people who want to put jfk Jr. In
Speaker 2: the Clinton death count, you could still rather he was
Speaker 2: running for whatever either one. Yeah, because eventually, if he's
Speaker 2: doing either, it's on his road to be wanting to
Speaker 2: become president.
Speaker 8: They were going to have to face off of engine.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, this guy would have been a fucking
Speaker 2: shoe in a president whenever he chose to do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, but it's funny too, because I was listening
Speaker 2: to some people talking and they were saying, like they're historians,
Speaker 2: they have looked heavily into jfk Jr. And they were
Speaker 2: saying a lot of the stuff that he was talking
Speaker 2: about aligns with what like Trump's doing now. And so
Speaker 2: if he was still alive today, he may not even
Speaker 2: been a fucking Democrat. And I mean, look at his uncle,
Speaker 2: or not his uncle, look at his cousin orrfk Jr.
Speaker 2: Now aligned with Trump. Anyway, that's just kind of in
Speaker 2: the weeds fun stuff. But if you look at it
Speaker 2: from the outside, his magazine is failing. He just found
Speaker 2: out that that's probably going to be done for his
Speaker 2: marriage is falling apart. He was kind of an adrenaline
Speaker 2: junkie and he'd just broken his ankle or his leg,
Speaker 2: I don't remember which, doing paragly and he was in
Speaker 2: a cast. And so this is all kind of culminating
Speaker 2: to the plane ride where he was a pilot. He
Speaker 2: was still kind of like training using flight instructures a
Speaker 2: lot of the time. But he had made this flight
Speaker 2: from New York to Martha's Vineyard I think up to
Speaker 2: like thirteen times by himself. But on this fateful day
Speaker 2: he made it in some hazy weather. And they say
Speaker 2: that to like the layman. It wasn't hazy, but once
Speaker 2: you get up there above the ocean. And he was
Speaker 2: supposed to make this flight during the day, so it
Speaker 2: was he and his wife, Carolyn and her sister, and
Speaker 2: they gotten this airplane late. They were flying at night,
Speaker 2: and it takes a nose dive and shit starts to
Speaker 2: get weird here because as soon as the plane goes down,
Speaker 2: it's almost like they just kind of fucking started doing
Speaker 2: some fuckery right in the beginning, because there's all these
Speaker 2: missing tapes of him calling in to the flight control.
Speaker 11: Center and missing tapes say no more, but.
Speaker 2: You can find these tapes. Bill Cooper actually did a
Speaker 2: whole episode back in the late nineties where he played
Speaker 2: all of them, and there's like kind of conflicting reports
Speaker 2: on whether there was a flight instructor with him or not.
Speaker 2: There's a missing seat in the plane. They only ever
Speaker 2: recovered three bodies. They were all promptly cremated, and.
Speaker 8: Was one of them.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's what they're saying, but.
Speaker 8: When you promptly cremated like a Dolpho.
Speaker 2: There's the other thing and how the Diana was promptly embalmed.
Speaker 2: But the fucking post guard was looking like several miles
Speaker 2: away from where the plane wrecked. And the technology they
Speaker 2: were used, and I've listened to some people who are
Speaker 2: experts on this say that they had the technology to
Speaker 2: know where that plane went down within three fucking feet.
Speaker 2: But there's all this shit going on where they're kind
Speaker 2: of scrambling the search. And Ted Kennedy pulled strings to
Speaker 2: get directly onto the phone with Bill Clinton to like
Speaker 2: fucking make this search happen better than it was. I mean,
Speaker 2: they were supposed to be at this wedding in Martha's vineyard.
Speaker 2: His cousin Rory was getting married, and he gets to
Speaker 2: the fucking little airport, his wife is late, and they're arguing.
Speaker 2: These two had fucking vicious arguments in public all the time.
Speaker 2: The paparazzi always caught them arguing. But there's some pilots
Speaker 2: who said that they saw them having a very intense conversation.
Speaker 2: John John had just gotten out of his cast. He'd
Speaker 2: been on painkiller for weeks. The only toxicology report that
Speaker 2: you can find on a record said that he was clean.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people say that was fake, that
Speaker 2: they didn't even do one, that the.
Speaker 8: Fantasy were promptly cremated, and the.
Speaker 2: Family did not want an autopsy. So a lot of
Speaker 2: people say that the Kennedy family covered this up to
Speaker 2: make it look like, yeah, that this isn't just another
Speaker 2: cursed death. They didn't want anything bad to come out,
Speaker 2: like he was fucking under the influence of pain pills
Speaker 2: or whatever. But it gets really fun if you get
Speaker 2: into the weeds and get all conspiracy about this, because
Speaker 2: there's some people out there who say that JFK Junior
Speaker 2: and one of his security guys found some C four
Speaker 2: under his plane. So there's this guy named John Kerner
Speaker 2: who's written both written two books, both about Kennedy's, the
Speaker 2: first about JFK and the second one about JFK Junior.
Speaker 2: After he wrote the book about GfK, he got this
Speaker 2: weird sickness that only exists in Southeast Asia. And this
Speaker 2: guy had the balls to fucking and he almost died
Speaker 2: from it, and he had the balls to like research
Speaker 2: this too, and it's called like the Explosive Truth or
Speaker 2: something like that. But what he uncovered was fourteen nautical
Speaker 2: miles is a pretty big chunk of terrain, and that
Speaker 2: is how far the wreckage was spread out. So it
Speaker 2: does look like but there's people who say that could
Speaker 2: happen if you, you know, you hit the water on
Speaker 2: a nose dive and then there's like enough wind to
Speaker 2: spread it all out. And it took them several days
Speaker 2: to find the bodies too. So a lot of people
Speaker 2: think that JFK Junior saw that they were trying to
Speaker 2: kill him and he never got on the plane, and
Speaker 2: that they made it look like an accident, and that
Speaker 2: he had a Navy seal buddy, so they missed the
Speaker 2: plane was missing a seat. So a lot of people think,
Speaker 2: think the guy the only guy on the plane would
Speaker 2: have been this Navy seal guy who ejected out of
Speaker 2: the plane and nobody died, and my and the c
Speaker 2: turds are right. A lot of people like this. One
Speaker 2: to me, is so fucking hard to research because you
Speaker 2: can go down so many angles on it.
Speaker 8: What does your heart say? Your heart?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing that I think is really crazy,
Speaker 2: and is it from your heart? I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I saw this years ago and I know who did
Speaker 2: it too. I don't know her. She's been on Davy
Speaker 2: Wavy's show. But this chick during a random ass fucking
Speaker 2: RFK Junior live stream where he's being interviewed by somebody,
Speaker 2: and you might clip this in here. I'll find it
Speaker 2: for you. So he's interviewing or he's being interviewed by
Speaker 2: somebody and he leans forward and reads the chat and
Speaker 2: somebody says, if JFK Junior is still alive, touch your nose.
Speaker 2: RFK Junior reads forward, leans forward right after that comes
Speaker 2: up on the screen, and he just sits back and
Speaker 2: goes he doesn't even It's not like, oh, he's scratching
Speaker 2: his nose. He just fucking reaches up and flicks his
Speaker 2: nose real quick and so like. I'm not one who
Speaker 2: thinks that RFK Junior is like a fucking white.
Speaker 8: Hat, but that you don't think he's gonna make a
Speaker 8: blaze of glory re entrance into society and fucking JFK Jr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think that if he fakes,
Speaker 2: if he faked his death and pulled it off, it
Speaker 2: would be fucking retarded for him to come back. It
Speaker 2: would be what's the point of doing it? Well, he
Speaker 2: wanted to come back with Trump and saved everybody from
Speaker 2: the pedophiles, even though Trump probably is one.
Speaker 8: But do you think he could still be in contact
Speaker 8: with Trump and RFK Jr.
Speaker 2: Anything's possible.
Speaker 8: What does your heart say? Did he die in the
Speaker 8: plane crash or not?
Speaker 2: I don't think he did.
Speaker 8: I don't think he did.
Speaker 2: But do I think that he's going to come back?
Speaker 8: Did he hate his wife enough to let her and
Speaker 8: her sister die?
Speaker 2: I doubt it. She wanted out from the beginning.
Speaker 8: The missing the missing seat, Yeah, and that also and
Speaker 8: the three bodies getting cremated as quickly.
Speaker 2: So that's the other thing is they have a family plot.
Speaker 2: No other Kennedy, no other high profile Kennedy that has
Speaker 2: died tragically has been cremated. There's like one every two years.
Speaker 8: I mean John got his head literally blowed off.
Speaker 2: None of them were cremated. He was the only one.
Speaker 2: And a burial at sea.
Speaker 8: A burial at sea.
Speaker 2: Mich Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 8: Ah, well, he for sure didn't die in the crash.
Speaker 8: You've just convinced me.
Speaker 2: I mean in this one, Like I said, we could
Speaker 2: literally sit down right now and do a two and
Speaker 2: a half hour long episode.
Speaker 8: Maybe we should revisit it. I mean, it's do you
Speaker 8: think you got all the.
Speaker 2: Jet I mean, I'm sure there's some stuff I missed.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to get in there. The letter to
Speaker 2: fucking Joe Biden to me is so nineties because of
Speaker 2: the crime Bill and he's threatening Joe Biden's life, and
Speaker 2: then Joe Biden becomes the president that defeats Trump and
Speaker 2: the stolen election. It's so cute like that fucking shit.
Speaker 2: I've only heard Jim Brewer talk about it before. I
Speaker 2: listened to these journalists who got the Foya request something.
Speaker 8: Though, like with Diana, I almost believe that it's a
Speaker 8: lot like how the doctors at Parkland talked about how
Speaker 8: the wounds that John F. Kennedy sustained were nothing like
Speaker 8: they reported and that there was a reconstructive team that
Speaker 8: came in and made it look like the front of
Speaker 8: his head didn't get blowed off. Oh yeah, Okay, the
Speaker 8: doctors are saying all this stuff about her heart being
Speaker 8: lodged and all this stuff. So maybe Diana died, okay,
Speaker 8: But this stuff with John fk Junior, this reeks of
Speaker 8: cover up to me.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the other thing, is whether they're dead
Speaker 2: or not, there was a huge cover up, So that's
Speaker 2: true no matter what the outcome is. But yeah, you
Speaker 2: could let your fucking imagination run wild for days on
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 8: I think that he's probably still alive. And I mean
Speaker 8: he didn't as much as he was like trying to
Speaker 8: dip his toe in the water. I don't think he
Speaker 8: really wanted anything to do with the world that his
Speaker 8: family belonged to at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like it was all he was left
Speaker 2: with after his Passion project crashed and burned.
Speaker 8: And it's like his mom died, so he's like, you know,
Speaker 8: I don't have anybody to answer to you but myself.
Speaker 8: He did this. Has anybody seen this song wearing Bitch
Speaker 8: anywhere popped up randomly? Yeah, maybe he just hated that
Speaker 8: bitch so much he let her burn up in the
Speaker 8: plane crash.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it, you know. And that's the other
Speaker 2: thing I want to say is Jfkid Junior should have
Speaker 2: been just the biggest asshole ever. And there are some
Speaker 2: photographers out there who would say so because they were
Speaker 2: fucking asshole paparazzi people who never relented. But apparently everybody
Speaker 2: loved this guy and he had big, big things ahead
Speaker 2: of him, whether he wanted to persis do you.
Speaker 8: Think Robert F is it f Robert F. Junior is?
Speaker 8: Do you think he's a good guy?
Speaker 2: No, you don't know.
Speaker 8: You don't think he's a good guy.
Speaker 2: I don't think many of the Kennedys are good guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, we could do a whole episode on I mean,
Speaker 2: fucking RFK Junior's wife hung herself in a very very
Speaker 2: weird circumstances. There's the cousin who fucking like raped and
Speaker 2: murdered a girl and got away with it. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: oh Ted Kennedy, the one that was his uncle. He
Speaker 2: fucking had a thing where he ran off the road
Speaker 2: with a nineteen year I think she was nineteen, and
Speaker 2: they were in a car, went into the river, he
Speaker 2: got out, claims that he swam down seven times try
Speaker 2: to rescue her but just couldn't. Goes to the hotel,
Speaker 2: calls the fucking manager because the people next to him
Speaker 2: are partying too loud, get some sleep, and then the
Speaker 2: next morning goes to the police station and says, I read,
Speaker 2: I want to report an incident that I was involved
Speaker 2: in last night, and so they go find her dead.
Speaker 2: I don't get this shit. She didn't die from drowning.
Speaker 8: Shut up.
Speaker 2: So there was an air pocket and she treaded water
Speaker 2: until she fucking ran out of oxygen and died of so.
Speaker 8: He could have saved her. There were many chances to
Speaker 8: save her.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's weird. JFK Jr. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: the only thing he ever was guilty of was Dayton
Speaker 2: orspace mcgillicut.
Speaker 8: Here. Well, I guess I'm not adding JFK Jr. To
Speaker 8: the Clinton body count. I think he's still alive. But
Speaker 8: we should mention the impeachment of Bill Clinton because that
Speaker 8: was a nineties thing and he did not have sexual
Speaker 8: relations with that woman.
Speaker 2: He fucked her with a cigar, came on her dress.
Speaker 2: She was masad.
Speaker 8: Were you old enough to remember this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: What'd you think of it?
Speaker 2: My memories of the Clinton scandal is Saturday Night Life,
Speaker 2: because man, they were fucking on that shit.
Speaker 8: They wouldn't do anything like that now.
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell played Janet Reno. Maybe I can Darryl Hannah.
Speaker 2: Daryl Hannah's fucking Bill Clinton is just so good. And
Speaker 2: I think it was Molly Shannon who played Lewinsky. Oh
Speaker 2: there's a whole season worth of clips from that. Send
Speaker 2: me like a best of oh for this, Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: find one. But yeah, I mean the Clinton scandal, this
Speaker 2: to me is just like all the stuff we shouldn't
Speaker 2: be paying attention to with Clinton, because Clinton was a
Speaker 2: puss hound, just like JFK Junior's dad, JFK Junior apparently
Speaker 2: fucked a fifteen year old intern or did I say junior?
Speaker 2: JFK JFK. And I always thought Clinton was kind of
Speaker 2: jfk Ask and his mannerisms and how everybody loved him,
Speaker 2: but he was a horrible guy, just like all the
Speaker 2: rest of them. And I mean, Lewinsky wasn't the only one,
Speaker 2: would you. I read a book by a secret service
Speaker 2: agent that was protecting Bill Clinton and the things he saw,
Speaker 2: and he claims that Monica Lewinsky threw herself at Bill
Speaker 2: every chance she got, just to get over there.
Speaker 8: And I'm not a big but would you be faithful
Speaker 8: if you were married to worse than horse killa? To
Speaker 8: fucking she looks like a fucking her head looks like
Speaker 8: a tomato.
Speaker 2: I would be shocked to find that Bill and Hillary
Speaker 2: ever fucked ever? Right? Right? Their their situationship.
Speaker 8: I mean, dude, that's a situationship if I ever seen
Speaker 8: have you seen him together?
Speaker 2: It's almost as bad as fucking Barry and Mike.
Speaker 8: But in the beginning, Barry and Mike had like a connection,
Speaker 8: like when they were to do interviews and stuff I had.
Speaker 8: I have never seen those two look remotely like they
Speaker 8: were in a romantic sexual relationship.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've seen never, I've never seen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like Hillary and human Aberdeen have way better sexual
Speaker 2: chemistry and.
Speaker 8: Bill, anyways, do you feel like we summed up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't got a lot to say
Speaker 2: about the impeachment Bill Clinton. It was a big thing
Speaker 2: in the nineties, actually strengthened his fucking position in DC
Speaker 2: and very much fucking launched her political career.
Speaker 8: Oh I'm sure.
Speaker 2: So you know, everybody came out and sadly enough before
Speaker 2: it was not cooled. The slut shame fucking Monica Lewinsky
Speaker 2: got drug through the mud. And I mean, like I said,
Speaker 2: all accounts are that she was really throwing herself at
Speaker 2: him and like going where she was not supposed to
Speaker 2: be to run into him and every chance, and of
Speaker 2: course as soon as she ran into him, he fucked her.
Speaker 8: Sure.
Speaker 2: I mean he was a lot like Jeff Can that way.
Speaker 8: So I don't blame Monica. She was just trying to
Speaker 8: get a piece, But you know Bill was also just
Speaker 8: trying to get a piece.
Speaker 2: If you want some fun, just dive into everything else
Speaker 2: that was going on while the fucking Lewinsky scandal was ensuing,
Speaker 2: because that's the stuff, that's the stuff we're not supposed
Speaker 2: to pay attention to.
Speaker 8: Very true. I'm glad you mentioned that. Imagine if we
Speaker 8: would have had if we would have tried to include
Speaker 8: all this in the part three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean another good mention. If we want
Speaker 2: to tie back to Columbine. One thing that Michael Moore,
Speaker 2: that piece of shit, pointed out in his movie Bowling
Speaker 2: for Columbine was as soon as that scandal app or scandal,
Speaker 2: as soon as that shit went down and everybody was
Speaker 2: fixated on that, he engaged in one of the most
Speaker 2: brutal bombing campaigns of Cambodia ever seen. I think it
Speaker 2: was Cambodia. Yeah, we'll just leave it like that. If
Speaker 2: it's another country, forgive me it worth blow up her
Speaker 2: comments section.
Speaker 8: Is it worth watching?
Speaker 2: What's that? What is it called Bullying for Colin? Have
Speaker 2: you never seen it?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: You know it's it's a Michael Moore movie. It's one
Speaker 2: of his better ones, but still Michael Moore movie.
Speaker 8: So is that a No?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's worth watching.
Speaker 8: Maybe we should watch it sometime.
Speaker 2: There's so much other better stuff to watch. But it's
Speaker 2: an interesting documentary for sure.
Speaker 8: Are you happy to have been able to experience some
Speaker 8: of this nineties mayhem? Do you feel like a historian?
Speaker 2: No, I feel like a contrarian.
Speaker 8: Well, that's gonna wrap it up for the Nineties Night
Speaker 8: Part four. Thanks for hanging in there with us. I
Speaker 8: hope you enjoyed it, and I will catch you on
Speaker 8: the next one.
Speaker 3: So so, I'm a written guess look.
Speaker 14: Sill lives, But.
Speaker 2: Cello, you've got.
Speaker 8: To dom.
Speaker 4: Saddam, it's me Bill Clinton. Bill. Come on, I'm eating breakfast.
Speaker 4: I made the deal.
Speaker 3: I'm letting the inspectors back in.
Speaker 2: Now lay off.
Speaker 4: Well that's what I'm calling you about. You see, I
Speaker 4: was thinking maybe you could not let the inspectors in.
Speaker 4: What do you think? Come on, have you been drinking?
Speaker 2: Bill?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 4: Well yes, Look buddy, I need you to help me
Speaker 4: out here. This Monica Lewinsky thing is getting pretty hot again.
Speaker 4: I could use a distraction like the Mammot movie Wag
Speaker 4: the Dog Mammot with that lesbian girl and de Niro
Speaker 4: and Dustin.
Speaker 2: I thought Dustin was fabulous. You know, he may be
Speaker 2: hal on the set, but he's heaven on the screen.
Speaker 4: Oh look sad, buddy, Getting off the subject. Couldn't you
Speaker 4: spray a few kurds with the anthrax?
Speaker 3: Come on, Bill, Bill, come on. Anthrax is horrible.
Speaker 2: It makes me sick.
Speaker 4: I need something. I gotta get this sex stuff out
Speaker 4: of the headlines. Just hold on a second. I got
Speaker 4: another call coming in. Hello, okay, bye, Monica. I was
Speaker 4: just gonna call you.
Speaker 3: Gosh, it's like we have the same brain.
Speaker 8: I really miss you.
Speaker 2: So what are you doing?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: I got Saddam on the other line. Looks like there
Speaker 4: ain't gonna be a war.
Speaker 2: Well that bites totally.
Speaker 4: Anyway. How's that star thing going?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 14: No, and anyway, it's totally dumb.
Speaker 9: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Wait are you watching Dawson's Creek right now?
Speaker 4: No, I am typing it. And do not tell me
Speaker 4: what happens to Piscy.
Speaker 3: All right, hey, let me see how to Saddam.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on a second, Saddam, are you still there?
Speaker 3: Who is that one of your Jewish friends?
Speaker 8: Now? Well, yes, who Siddam?
Speaker 3: Monica?
Speaker 4: You never called me anymore.
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Speaker 5: Friday morning. He was dead of an apparently self inflicted
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