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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of February third,

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing with Lost Season two, episode seven, The other

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight days, and man, was that a rough time

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<v Speaker 1>they had there.

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<v Speaker 3>They did not have.

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<v Speaker 1>As many good times as the uh Midsection folk. They

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<v Speaker 1>saw absolutely every second of their time on the island.

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<v Speaker 3>These guys, we just see the bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no golf game. Yeah, we found a stash of

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<v Speaker 2>candy bars and peanut butter like just misery after misery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't really have a Hurley there for comic

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<v Speaker 1>relief to the no. You know, Bernard could have maybe

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<v Speaker 1>risen to that, but he's too upset about Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So man, that was just and it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>reminded me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Anna Lucia had the same role in that

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<v Speaker 1>group as Jack did in the other, right, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was sort of thrust into it. You know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was very heroic and positive at the beginning and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing but then suddenly when everybody's asking you to do

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<v Speaker 1>things and to make decisions and what should we do here?

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody's looking to you and there's a cry, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you just you're doing the best you can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you make mistakes. I feel like Jack had

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<v Speaker 1>a little more coverage, She had more people to spread

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<v Speaker 1>out the responsibility to, and you know, nobody just stopped

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<v Speaker 1>talking for forty days and you know, so she seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like the downside of that sort of thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>step up to take responsibility and then everybody hates your

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<v Speaker 1>living guts for the rest of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you short, you did that, you believed him. What

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing? Why are you doing that? Should you

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<v Speaker 3>be doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if it's because she's a woman

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<v Speaker 1>or because she doesn't I don't know. Isn't Jack has

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<v Speaker 1>a charm that she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have or what?

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<v Speaker 2>But that.

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<v Speaker 1>Familiar to any mom? I think, Yeah, for sure, you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me to be in charge, second guessed me every second.

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<v Speaker 3>Along the way. What do you want me to do here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know they did have the mid section folk

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<v Speaker 1>had one person taken. They had nine people taken, right,

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<v Speaker 1>very scary. In the kids, we found the owner of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy Bear, the teddy bear, tidy bear on a string.

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<v Speaker 3>Teddy Bear was a plant. So when we saw it again,

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<v Speaker 3>we would have gone with that kid. That was the

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<v Speaker 3>kid that was upsetting right.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, I don't think she ever had a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where she felt like, okay, yeah, everything's okay now, yeah, settled.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have to figure out who the mole

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<v Speaker 1>is and I have to do this unpopular thing of torturing.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy until he talks.

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<v Speaker 1>Who may have been actually a passenger was still yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>They was that ever, like made clear what the deal

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<v Speaker 2>was with Nathan. I feel like I guess he must

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<v Speaker 2>have been a passenger because otherwise Goodwin, who was the

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<v Speaker 2>plant from the other wouldn't have killed him, right.

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<v Speaker 3>When right he would have would win.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohy, you know from the first minute that that's there's

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<v Speaker 1>your mole and she just doesn't see it for a while. Yeah, gods,

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<v Speaker 1>but Nathan did not do himself any favors. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't go to the bathroom by yourself, dude, But come on,

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<v Speaker 1>people are suspecting you. Let them be mad because you

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<v Speaker 1>pooped in the ash pit, not because you're out in

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle for too long. He just he just did

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<v Speaker 1>everything he possibly could to look suspicious. Yes, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>canadiancy so, you know, not real talkative. I guess, don't

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<v Speaker 1>like all these markens. Yeah, so man, that was rough

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<v Speaker 1>and I I felt for her, especially since we left

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<v Speaker 1>alf after the last episode with her having shot Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, oh, what a terrible person. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can see how she gets to that point, right and

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<v Speaker 1>how probably she would say, could somebody just throw me

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<v Speaker 1>into a pit?

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<v Speaker 3>I could use an out right demand in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it, yeah, exactly, And you know it

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<v Speaker 2>was as we said, she started out with a smaller

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<v Speaker 2>group and yeah, she lost a lot more of them

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<v Speaker 2>than right, and the other ones did than Jack did.

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<v Speaker 3>For example.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when you lose so many and when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in such constant fear, then there's much more pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>you to make decisions and much more latitude of other

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<v Speaker 1>people to say that was the wrong thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Jack had a little more time and.

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<v Speaker 3>A little less direness. Right, but yikes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Also from a parenting point of view, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this I promise you'll get home soon, and

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<v Speaker 1>I promise it's going to be okay and all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, ooh, always make those promises, don't we,

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<v Speaker 1>even when we know it's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we make those promises? What is the latest in

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<v Speaker 3>parenting advice on this?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you supposed to say to the kid?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know, she probably thinks you're dead now,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, who knows? And who knows if you'll ever

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<v Speaker 1>see your mom? You'll probably die on this island.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, early on they didn't know that, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>early on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they were like, even so you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get so sunburned, little blonde girl, it's going to be miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go set this guy's leg Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's just like, what do you say in those situations?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say to kids if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where you're scared and you don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and you have to say something that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to make them not be crazy, but whatever it is

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a lie, right that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been in that position once or in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and oftentimes.

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<v Speaker 3>I just yell but I don't know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they shut up. But not when they were little.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do that. Now that the adults I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'm you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like you've you've heard that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>they have to get a shot, you know, don't be

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<v Speaker 2>like I promise it won't hurt. It will hurt, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to say it's it will hurt, but it

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<v Speaker 2>will be over quickly or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither of those works, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it doesn't work in the situation of we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on this island for an indeterminate period. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>someone may come and kidnap you, right right, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean even echo saying it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be okay, it is totally not going to be okay, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice you.

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<v Speaker 1>Start talking again. But maybe the silence was helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Oh, dear, well, it was good that Anna Lucia

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<v Speaker 2>finally you know, had a small little breakdown and let

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<v Speaker 2>some of her yes, let some of her feelings out,

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<v Speaker 2>although clearly it didn't work because yes, she's still acting

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<v Speaker 2>the same way when we first met her, which was

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<v Speaker 2>after right after that or yeah it was after that, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of trauma, yes, all around.

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<v Speaker 3>I really super related to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Just lately, when she said to mister echo, what needs

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to make you talk? I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to use that on my son. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes a face like something hurts him.

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<v Speaker 3>What's wrong? Nothing? What's wrong? Nothing? I'm fine, fine, fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like saying what needs to happen to make

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<v Speaker 1>you talk?

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<v Speaker 3>So? But yes, what do I need to do? I

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<v Speaker 3>did take a.

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<v Speaker 2>Pet also, like it when she's like, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm digging this pit?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how long did it take? That was huge?

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<v Speaker 2>That pit?

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<v Speaker 4>She's sixty seven person, but she's determined. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that thing was like the dirt was scared

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<v Speaker 4>it got out of her way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah if she did all by herself.

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<v Speaker 3>How soft is this soil here in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems where Bernard is up in a tree in

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<v Speaker 1>his seat, oh man, yeah, next to a dead person.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there somebody else like up in a tree? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the pilot was up the pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the only one I remember that there was

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else who was maybe, but U well was it

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<v Speaker 1>the grab the tree just in time?

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<v Speaker 3>Like like I wouldn't know once I grabbed the tree, Well, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, wouldn't he just like kind of slide right down?

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<v Speaker 3>Think?

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't the other person that was in a tree the

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<v Speaker 2>the dead priest.

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<v Speaker 3>From the oh yeah? Could have been from the plane?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah yeah yeah, the little plane, the little plane,

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<v Speaker 1>the religious plane. Yes, so apparently, according to lost Pedia,

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<v Speaker 1>when Bernard was playing with the radio, he heard boone

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<v Speaker 1>in that little plane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the raft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I thought so too. It doesn't matter. Yeah, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>happened right in either way, it would be bringing us along.

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<v Speaker 2>Survivors, you know, not not anybody who could do anything

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<v Speaker 2>to help them.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, no, point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, so apparently the the good people were on

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<v Speaker 1>the list, so they were picking up the good people.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, the children they had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been through all this trauma. Now you're not not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not good enough for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not good enough for the others.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good guy. Isn't he a good guy? What rose?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he not a good guy? Looks like a good guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna come back for him. But so that's giving

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<v Speaker 1>it a little twist.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But yeah, but they had a list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the Goodwin says the kids are better off, which

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if they have, you know, a shelter and

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<v Speaker 1>three squares in a bathroom, they're better off, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not for the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, their teddy bear has to live its life

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<v Speaker 1>Just let him drag That doesn't speak well no way

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well it's it's it also though, harks back to Ethan, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was ready for that guy to get run through

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<v Speaker 3>Come on right, Oh well.

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<v Speaker 2>No wonder she's sitting by the river crying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, things are rough, things are not good.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, she says, this is just her life now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's it's been like what forty days?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's not a bad. Yeah, And I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad, and I know it has been the worst

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<v Speaker 2>forty days of your legends.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these people have a lot going on, might

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what this was.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the first episode that did not have any

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<v Speaker 1>the island, right, So, and that was a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they're the only sort of hints of like

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<v Speaker 2>know everything that she knows. And there was the very

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<v Speaker 2>long pause when asked if she was a parent. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>she said no, but she waited a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, little things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she maybe she like Doug latrines in the military

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<v Speaker 1>or something, or trenches where she got her good diggings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a pit, not no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this, no worries.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now we're all caught up to where we were

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<v Speaker 1>at the last end of the last episode. And so

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<v Speaker 1>now we go forward with the two groups coming together

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<v Speaker 1>in whatever way. Hopefully, well they won't blame everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>for uh Shannon's death. Just we'll say the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Oh, yes, the name of the episode is Collision.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't sound promises, right, She's gonna have to take

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<v Speaker 1>another pit, y'all are going in the pits?

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<v Speaker 3>Unless you do what I say.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>At least Rose can can vouch for Bernard and Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe remember seeing Nilssy on the in the bar and

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and Sawyer and Jin can well maybe not Jin

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<v Speaker 3>They're okay, yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be rough, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what this I think we can all agree

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<v Speaker 1>that what this show needed the most was an infusion

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<v Speaker 1>of more characters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, a couple of people have died. We need more.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, let's let's round up seven more people to

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<v Speaker 1>come over here and make trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, so many more. We haven't had

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<v Speaker 3>flashbacks on any of these people period Island. Just think.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus we now know many stories. There's, however, many others

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<v Speaker 2>that belonged to all those legs that we saw a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago eight right, Well, some one of those

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<v Speaker 2>legs was the Little Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, yes, but.

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<v Speaker 2>There were speaking of as we were a number of characters.

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<v Speaker 2>There were just quite a lot of legs.

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<v Speaker 3>As we said, there really were there there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is not spoiling anything to say

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<v Speaker 1>this is not the last infusion of new characters.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to have despite being on.

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<v Speaker 1>A deserted desert island. The cast continues too well, used

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<v Speaker 1>to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>We found a pet, there's some people in here, come

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<v Speaker 3>on out, but we also took out a couple. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>just say that's true balance.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's oh well we added as well as

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<v Speaker 1>track for a show that for a show that took

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<v Speaker 1>place on an uncharted desert island.

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<v Speaker 3>There's really quite a lot of people by the end

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<v Speaker 3>of this show.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of coming and going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So next Tuesday, then we will continue with season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode out of Lost Collision, and we will see you

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<v Speaker 1>back here tomorrow to discuss a man on the inside.

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