Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of February third,
Speaker 1: we're continuing with Lost Season two, episode seven, The other
Speaker 1: forty eight days, and man, was that a rough time
Speaker 1: they had there.
Speaker 3: They did not have.
Speaker 1: As many good times as the uh Midsection folk. They
Speaker 1: saw absolutely every second of their time on the island.
Speaker 3: These guys, we just see the bad stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no golf game. Yeah, we found a stash of
Speaker 2: candy bars and peanut butter like just misery after misery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't really have a Hurley there for comic
Speaker 1: relief to the no. You know, Bernard could have maybe
Speaker 1: risen to that, but he's too upset about Rose.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So man, that was just and it kind of
Speaker 3: reminded me.
Speaker 1: I mean, Anna Lucia had the same role in that
Speaker 1: group as Jack did in the other, right, but you know,
Speaker 1: it was sort of thrust into it. You know, she
Speaker 1: was very heroic and positive at the beginning and you know,
Speaker 1: doing but then suddenly when everybody's asking you to do
Speaker 1: things and to make decisions and what should we do here?
Speaker 1: And everybody's looking to you and there's a cry, and
Speaker 1: then you just you're doing the best you can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you make mistakes. I feel like Jack had
Speaker 1: a little more coverage, She had more people to spread
Speaker 1: out the responsibility to, and you know, nobody just stopped
Speaker 1: talking for forty days and you know, so she seemed
Speaker 1: like the downside of that sort of thing where you
Speaker 1: step up to take responsibility and then everybody hates your
Speaker 1: living guts for the rest of the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you short, you did that, you believed him. What
Speaker 3: are you doing? Why are you doing that? Should you
Speaker 3: be doing that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's because she's a woman
Speaker 1: or because she doesn't I don't know. Isn't Jack has
Speaker 1: a charm that she doesn't.
Speaker 3: Have or what?
Speaker 2: But that.
Speaker 1: Familiar to any mom? I think, Yeah, for sure, you
Speaker 1: asked me to be in charge, second guessed me every second.
Speaker 3: Along the way. What do you want me to do here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know they did have the mid section folk
Speaker 1: had one person taken. They had nine people taken, right,
Speaker 1: very scary. In the kids, we found the owner of the.
Speaker 3: Teddy Bear, the teddy bear, tidy bear on a string.
Speaker 3: Teddy Bear was a plant. So when we saw it again,
Speaker 3: we would have gone with that kid. That was the
Speaker 3: kid that was upsetting right.
Speaker 1: Just you know, I don't think she ever had a
Speaker 1: moment where she felt like, okay, yeah, everything's okay now, yeah, settled.
Speaker 1: You know, I have to figure out who the mole
Speaker 1: is and I have to do this unpopular thing of torturing.
Speaker 3: This guy until he talks.
Speaker 1: Who may have been actually a passenger was still yeah?
Speaker 2: They was that ever, like made clear what the deal
Speaker 2: was with Nathan. I feel like I guess he must
Speaker 2: have been a passenger because otherwise Goodwin, who was the
Speaker 2: plant from the other wouldn't have killed him, right.
Speaker 3: When right he would have would win.
Speaker 1: Ohy, you know from the first minute that that's there's
Speaker 1: your mole and she just doesn't see it for a while. Yeah, gods,
Speaker 1: but Nathan did not do himself any favors. No, you
Speaker 1: can't go to the bathroom by yourself, dude, But come on,
Speaker 1: people are suspecting you. Let them be mad because you
Speaker 1: pooped in the ash pit, not because you're out in
Speaker 1: the jungle for too long. He just he just did
Speaker 1: everything he possibly could to look suspicious. Yes, but he's
Speaker 1: canadiancy so, you know, not real talkative. I guess, don't
Speaker 1: like all these markens. Yeah, so man, that was rough
Speaker 1: and I I felt for her, especially since we left
Speaker 1: alf after the last episode with her having shot Shannon,
Speaker 1: and was like, oh, what a terrible person. But you
Speaker 1: can see how she gets to that point, right and
Speaker 1: how probably she would say, could somebody just throw me
Speaker 1: into a pit?
Speaker 3: I could use an out right demand in charge.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, yeah, exactly, And you know it
Speaker 2: was as we said, she started out with a smaller
Speaker 2: group and yeah, she lost a lot more of them
Speaker 2: than right, and the other ones did than Jack did.
Speaker 3: For example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you lose so many and when you're
Speaker 1: in such constant fear, then there's much more pressure on
Speaker 1: you to make decisions and much more latitude of other
Speaker 1: people to say that was the wrong thing to do,
Speaker 1: whereas Jack had a little more time and.
Speaker 3: A little less direness. Right, but yikes. Yes.
Speaker 1: Also from a parenting point of view, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of this I promise you'll get home soon, and
Speaker 1: I promise it's going to be okay and all these things,
Speaker 1: and it's like, ooh, always make those promises, don't we,
Speaker 1: even when we know it's not true.
Speaker 3: Should we make those promises? What is the latest in
Speaker 3: parenting advice on this?
Speaker 2: I think, don't.
Speaker 3: What are you supposed to say to the kid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, she probably thinks you're dead now,
Speaker 1: so yeah, who knows? And who knows if you'll ever
Speaker 1: see your mom? You'll probably die on this island.
Speaker 3: Who knows?
Speaker 2: Well, early on they didn't know that, right, I mean
Speaker 2: early on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were like, even so you're going to
Speaker 1: get so sunburned, little blonde girl, it's going to be miserable.
Speaker 1: Let me go set this guy's leg Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was impressive.
Speaker 1: It's it's just like, what do you say in those situations?
Speaker 1: What do you say to kids if you're in a
Speaker 1: situation where you're scared and you don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and you have to say something that's going
Speaker 1: to make them not be crazy, but whatever it is
Speaker 1: is going to be a lie, right that. I think
Speaker 1: we've all been in that position once or in a while,
Speaker 1: and oftentimes.
Speaker 3: I just yell but I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: and then they shut up. But not when they were little.
Speaker 3: I didn't do that. Now that the adults I do.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm you do.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like you've you've heard that, you know, if
Speaker 2: they have to get a shot, you know, don't be
Speaker 2: like I promise it won't hurt. It will hurt, and
Speaker 2: you have to say it's it will hurt, but it
Speaker 2: will be over quickly or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Neither of those works, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: No, And it doesn't work in the situation of we're
Speaker 2: going to be on this island for an indeterminate period. Yeah,
Speaker 2: someone may come and kidnap you, right right, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean even echo saying it's going to
Speaker 2: be okay, it is totally not going to be okay, man,
Speaker 2: I had to tell you.
Speaker 3: It's nice you.
Speaker 1: Start talking again. But maybe the silence was helpful.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Oh, dear, well, it was good that Anna Lucia
Speaker 2: finally you know, had a small little breakdown and let
Speaker 2: some of her yes, let some of her feelings out,
Speaker 2: although clearly it didn't work because yes, she's still acting
Speaker 2: the same way when we first met her, which was
Speaker 2: after right after that or yeah it was after that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of trauma, yes, all around.
Speaker 3: I really super related to her.
Speaker 1: Just lately, when she said to mister echo, what needs
Speaker 1: to happen to make you talk? I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to use that on my son. You know, he
Speaker 1: makes a face like something hurts him.
Speaker 3: What's wrong? Nothing? What's wrong? Nothing? I'm fine, fine, fun.
Speaker 1: I feel like saying what needs to happen to make
Speaker 1: you talk?
Speaker 3: So? But yes, what do I need to do? I
Speaker 3: did take a.
Speaker 2: Pet also, like it when she's like, why do you
Speaker 2: think I'm digging this pit?
Speaker 3: I mean, how long did it take? That was huge?
Speaker 2: That pit?
Speaker 4: She's sixty seven person, but she's determined. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: I mean that thing was like the dirt was scared
Speaker 4: it got out of her way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah if she did all by herself.
Speaker 3: How soft is this soil here in the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's.
Speaker 1: It seems where Bernard is up in a tree in
Speaker 1: his seat, oh man, yeah, next to a dead person.
Speaker 3: Was there somebody else like up in a tree? Well,
Speaker 3: you know, the pilot was up the pilot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only one I remember that there was
Speaker 1: somebody else who was maybe, but U well was it
Speaker 1: the grab the tree just in time?
Speaker 3: Like like I wouldn't know once I grabbed the tree, Well, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Know, wouldn't he just like kind of slide right down?
Speaker 3: Think?
Speaker 2: Wasn't the other person that was in a tree the
Speaker 2: the dead priest.
Speaker 3: From the oh yeah? Could have been from the plane?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, the little plane, the little plane,
Speaker 1: the religious plane. Yes, so apparently, according to lost Pedia,
Speaker 1: when Bernard was playing with the radio, he heard boone
Speaker 1: in that little plane.
Speaker 3: Yeah I thought.
Speaker 2: It was the raft.
Speaker 1: Yeah I thought so too. It doesn't matter. Yeah, nothing
Speaker 1: happened right in either way, it would be bringing us along.
Speaker 2: Survivors, you know, not not anybody who could do anything
Speaker 2: to help them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so apparently the the good people were on
Speaker 1: the list, so they were picking up the good people.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, the children they had enough.
Speaker 1: You've been through all this trauma. Now you're not not
Speaker 1: I'm not good enough for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not good enough for the others.
Speaker 3: It's a good guy. Isn't he a good guy? What rose?
Speaker 1: Is he not a good guy? Looks like a good guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna come back for him. But so that's giving
Speaker 1: it a little twist.
Speaker 2: Right, But yeah, but they had a list.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Goodwin says the kids are better off, which
Speaker 1: I guess if they have, you know, a shelter and
Speaker 1: three squares in a bathroom, they're better off, but.
Speaker 3: Probably not for the long run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, their teddy bear has to live its life
Speaker 2: on the end of a string.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right guy. What's happened to you that
Speaker 3: you're not at least picking up your bear?
Speaker 1: Just let him drag That doesn't speak well no way
Speaker 1: they're saying to me, Yes.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was impressed by the acting from Brent Cullen, who
Speaker 1: played Goodwin. I could like see him calculating who knows what? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what you know what to say, and what to
Speaker 1: do and stuff is do a very good job at that,
Speaker 1: I thought, But I wasn't sad to see him and
Speaker 1: pealed on a stick.
Speaker 2: Yes, well it's it's it also though, harks back to Ethan, like, yes,
Speaker 2: we need information also, and we are not going to
Speaker 2: get it from dead bodies.
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, maybe think that through a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I think it was No. I
Speaker 3: know I wouldn't satisfying.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I was ready for that guy to get run through
Speaker 1: with this sick yes, so so calculating and the one
Speaker 1: person that she could trust and then he drins out
Speaker 1: to be the bad guy.
Speaker 3: Come on right, Oh well.
Speaker 2: No wonder she's sitting by the river crying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are rough, things are not good.
Speaker 1: At one point, she says, this is just her life now,
Speaker 1: Oh ye really.
Speaker 2: I know it's it's been like what forty days?
Speaker 3: Like that's not a bad. Yeah, And I know.
Speaker 2: It's bad, and I know it has been the worst
Speaker 2: forty days of your legends.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: All of these people have a lot going on, might
Speaker 1: not be the worst forty days of their life.
Speaker 3: You don't know what this was.
Speaker 1: This was the first episode that did not have any
Speaker 1: pre flight flashbacks, right, it was all just flashbacks from
Speaker 1: their various different points of view about what happened on
Speaker 1: the island, right, So, and that was a little different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're the only sort of hints of like
Speaker 2: you get the idea that I'm a lusium us to
Speaker 2: have been in the military or something, you know, to
Speaker 2: know everything that she knows. And there was the very
Speaker 2: long pause when asked if she was a parent. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: she said no, but she waited a very long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, little things like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe she maybe she like Doug latrines in the military
Speaker 1: or something, or trenches where she got her good diggings.
Speaker 3: Yes, a pit, not no problem.
Speaker 2: I got this, no worries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ye.
Speaker 1: Well, now we're all caught up to where we were
Speaker 1: at the last end of the last episode. And so
Speaker 1: now we go forward with the two groups coming together
Speaker 1: in whatever way. Hopefully, well they won't blame everybody else
Speaker 1: for uh Shannon's death. Just we'll say the name of
Speaker 1: the episode. Oh, yes, the name of the episode is Collision.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound promises, right, She's gonna have to take
Speaker 1: another pit, y'all are going in the pits?
Speaker 3: Unless you do what I say.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: At least Rose can can vouch for Bernard and Jack.
Speaker 1: Maybe remember seeing Nilssy on the in the bar and
Speaker 1: Michael and Sawyer and Jin can well maybe not Jin
Speaker 1: could talk to just dull Sun.
Speaker 3: They're okay, yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be rough, but.
Speaker 1: You know what this I think we can all agree
Speaker 1: that what this show needed the most was an infusion
Speaker 1: of more characters.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, a couple of people have died. We need more.
Speaker 1: Come on, let's let's round up seven more people to
Speaker 1: come over here and make trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, so many more. We haven't had
Speaker 3: flashbacks on any of these people period Island. Just think.
Speaker 2: Plus we now know many stories. There's, however, many others
Speaker 2: that belonged to all those legs that we saw a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago eight right, Well, some one of those
Speaker 2: legs was the Little Boy.
Speaker 3: But yes, yes, but.
Speaker 2: There were speaking of as we were a number of characters.
Speaker 2: There were just quite a lot of legs.
Speaker 3: As we said, there really were there there.
Speaker 1: I think that this is not spoiling anything to say
Speaker 1: this is not the last infusion of new characters.
Speaker 3: We're going to have despite being on.
Speaker 1: A deserted desert island. The cast continues too well, used
Speaker 1: to grow.
Speaker 3: We found a pet, there's some people in here, come
Speaker 3: on out, but we also took out a couple. Let's
Speaker 3: just say that's true balance.
Speaker 1: You know, there's oh well we added as well as
Speaker 1: track for a show that for a show that took
Speaker 1: place on an uncharted desert island.
Speaker 3: There's really quite a lot of people by the end
Speaker 3: of this show.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of coming and going.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: So next Tuesday, then we will continue with season two,
Speaker 1: episode out of Lost Collision, and we will see you
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow to discuss a man on the inside.
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