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Like leave 9 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:04.920 something nice in the comments, Share this with everyone and 10 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:09.560 enjoy yourselves on this amazing episode of the Gray Heart 11 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:10.599 Pagans Podcast. 12 00:01:43.519 --> 00:02:00.040 M HM. 13 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.520 Co hosts once the Mic right away. My other co host, 14 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:14.520 fire Fay, will be joining us soon. But my guest 15 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:19.280 for today is miss Sharon Farber, and she has some 16 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:24.599 interesting things things that I didn't even know was possible. 17 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.560 So Sharon, thank you so much for coming on, and 18 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:31.000 for those who may not be familiar with you yet, 19 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:32.120 introduce yourself. 20 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:35.879 Hi. I'm Sharon Farber. Thank you so much for inviting 21 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.879 me pleasure to be here. I'm a medium. I'm an author, 22 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:44.520 mentor teacher, and I guess what makes me unique amongst 23 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.800 the thousands of other mediums is that I chose to 24 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.639 become a medium about thirteen fourteen years ago and took classes, 25 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:56.199 read books, and learned to become a medium. And my 26 00:02:56.639 --> 00:03:01.000 niche is teaching mediumship to people who are already mediums, 27 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.319 helping them get better, but also beginners are kind of 28 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.919 my specialty. And even people who didn't know that they 29 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.840 could be mediums and they always thought I thought you 30 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.680 had to be born that way, or I didn't think 31 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.439 you could learn. It's those people I can hold their 32 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:21.719 hand step by step, and I've got an amazing success 33 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:26.319 rate of beginner mediums becoming mediums, taking a five hour 34 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:30.199 online class and giving a validated reading by the end 35 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:31.199 of the class. 36 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:33.319 Wow, that's quick. 37 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.120 Yeah, yep. And the people who take the class, they're 38 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:41.280 small classes, they're limited to ten people. They often have fewer, 39 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:46.280 and it's usually maybe seventy or eighty percent of people. Well, 40 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.240 I've had these experiences. I've done this, but I don't 41 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.520 know how to do it intentionally, I want to take 42 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.639 it further. But then there's usually there's often one or 43 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.520 two people who are I've never done it. I'm beginning. 44 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.400 I'm really excited, and those are the ones where it's 45 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:06.759 really exciting to watch them give their first reading. 46 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.000 Yeah, so, I mean that's the that's the thing. My wife, 47 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.879 who hopefully should be joining us shortly and otherwise I 48 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.839 can definitely hold my own. But she is a medium 49 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.800 as well. She is born with it. Although it is 50 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:24.360 a gift that of course has developed over the years. 51 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.360 She learned how to how to work with it because 52 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:29.480 I know at first it was just, you know, everything 53 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.959 coming in all at once, no filter whatsoever. And I know, 54 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:39.079 of course in my circles people are more spiritually inclined, 55 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:44.399 there are more people with certain gifts. But I never 56 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:49.040 knew that mediumship was one that you could actually learn. 57 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:53.279 Like my assumption was that, you know, you kind of 58 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:56.480 have to be born with it or born with well 59 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:01.680 with with the with the power to develop it later on, 60 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:05.839 like like my wife did. So how did you find 61 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:09.399 out that it's something that that can be taught? Like, 62 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:11.879 was it just like, oh, this sounds interesting, I'm gonna 63 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:15.720 try that or A big thank you to the sponsor 64 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:23.079 of today's episode, Good Feels and their cannabis Seltzer. 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I just think that 84 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:17.199 everybody has it, that everybody has an innate like unwrapped 85 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:21.120 undiscovered ability that if they're drawn to it, they can 86 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:27.759 choose to open, unwrap, and develop, So that part about 87 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:33.240 having it kind of works. What happened was that at 88 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.600 almost fifty somebody said, Hey, want to go to this 89 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:41.120 medium ship demonstration at this house like the next town over. 90 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:45.160 And I said, Shire, that sounds interesting. No burning desire 91 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.240 to be a medium, nothing like that, I said, I 92 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:52.439 do have thirty five years experience as a massage therapist 93 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:57.120 and energy healer, a little overlap reiki, energy healing, little 94 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:00.600 bit of spirit guides energy working and feeling things that 95 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:02.959 aren't really there, so there's a little bit of overlap, 96 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:07.160 but not connecting with people and spirit. So I went 97 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.199 to this event and she connected with my close friend 98 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.240 and my firstborn dog, and she gave brilliant readings to 99 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.279 everybody else there, and I went, Wow, that's really cool. 100 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.040 And I had a massage therapy center at the time 101 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.600 with four rooms, including one big room, and I invited 102 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.279 her to come. So for the next year, she came 103 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.680 once a month and gave small group mediumship demonstrations at 104 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.440 my office, like for up to eight people, and I 105 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.759 got to be there get some of their readings, but 106 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.759 mostly see how amazing and healing it was, and then 107 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:42.600 she got too busy and couldn't work there, and I was, wow, 108 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.960 I want to do that. So that inspired me. We 109 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.879 need more mediums. I want to do that. And everybody said, oh, 110 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.240 I don't think you can learn how to do it, 111 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.000 and I said, we'll find out, and I read books, 112 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.240 I took a three hour class, I took more classes, 113 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:02.360 and then I got my very by practicing on a 114 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:06.200 massage client. I said, I've been studying this, and she said, 115 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.919 you can practice on me. And I connected with her 116 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:13.240 dad and got four pieces of validated information, one of 117 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:17.039 them like really strong, and I was literally jumping up 118 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.320 and down, not figuratively, literally jumping up and down. And 119 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.799 she thought I was crazy, not for being a medium 120 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:25.919 talking to dead people, but for jumping up a dead gun. 121 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:28.480 Then that gave me that, Oh my god, I can 122 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.200 let's really do that. And the whole reason I wrote 123 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.080 my book is because so many people think what you 124 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:40.799 think or thought until we have this podcast today, I've 125 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.960 heard hundreds of times from people say that I didn't 126 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.200 think you could learn it. So the working title of 127 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.279 the book that I wrote, the working title was how 128 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:51.320 to Become a Medium When you're not born that way? 129 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.519 Or are you? And it was shortened to choosing to 130 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.000 be a medium, experience and share the healing wonder of 131 00:09:58.039 --> 00:09:59.919 spirit communication. Can I show them the cover? 132 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:02.960 Yeah? Please do so? 133 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.440 Wait there we go. Yeah, so there's my book. There's 134 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.320 also a companion journal. So I wrote the book because 135 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.440 it was really hard to develop as a medium with 136 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.360 all these people saying you can't do it if you're 137 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.120 not born that way. People who were a third generation 138 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:26.600 medium are going to be better. People who aren't naturally 139 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:29.440 inclined that way are never going to be really good. 140 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:34.200 Just there was a lot of negative, negative pr about 141 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.919 the idea that you can become a medium. So I said, well, 142 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.960 I'll find out because I was really compelled to, step 143 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.759 by step learned how to do it. And that's why 144 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.879 I want to teach people that they can do it. Also, 145 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:51.000 it's not something for just people with unique abilities up 146 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:55.159 on a pedestal, not that everybody who has spontaneous natural 147 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:59.039 abilities acts like they're that way. But I just want 148 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:04.320 to make it accessible for people who want to and 149 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.000 know that they can. And my feeling is that if 150 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:08.200 I can do it, you can do it. 151 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:15.360 Yeah, I mean that's that's absolutely, absolutely valid, and it's interesting, 152 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.639 like it's it's not something you would imagine would be 153 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.720 be gate kept so heavily, you know, spiritual gatekeeping. I 154 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:27.120 know it's it's a thing, unfortunately. 155 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:26.679 But. 156 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:33.039 I you know, I thought spirituality was about exploring and 157 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.480 exploring your yourself and the outer world, you know, Asbose 158 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:42.399 lows within, so without like, well that good stuff. Excuse me. 159 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:47.360 I never heard that expression used in terms of what 160 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:51.759 I'm saying about becoming a medium, But that makes total sense. 161 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:55.840 And if you think of the people maybe previously now 162 00:11:55.840 --> 00:12:00.679 it's becoming almost mainstream, who were the big names making 163 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.679 thousands of dollars. They don't want everybody to be able 164 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.679 to do mediumship. They won't be unique and up on 165 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.080 their pedestal, kind of like priests of old. I'm the 166 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.559 only one that can talk, I will intercede, I can 167 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.639 talk to God. They had control and power and didn't 168 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.960 want everybody else to be able to talk directly to God. 169 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.639 So a little bit like that maybe in the past. 170 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.279 I'm thinking of one medium whose name I won't mention, 171 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.080 who has a book, who talks about his unique abilities, 172 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.039 and reading this book won't make you a medium. And 173 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:36.039 this whole idea that he's unique and all that he's 174 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:38.639 never been to Arthur Finley College in England, where you 175 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:43.600 have one hundred mediums, teachers and students in a building 176 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.639 for a week, all developing. It doesn't make you feel 177 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:47.399 very unique. 178 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:51.879 No, no, definitely not. But that's I guess to me 179 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:55.440 at least, I'm friends with a lot of people Heathens, 180 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.440 which is a couple of Shamans even or just people 181 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:03.480 who are more virtually inclined, and everyone always says that 182 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.519 it's not something that should be coming from ego if 183 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.039 you're doing it because you know, you think it makes 184 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.679 you so great and so unique and all of that. 185 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:18.720 I mean, yeah, it's good to have self confidence, it's 186 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:23.240 good to have confidence in your abilities, and yeah, like 187 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:27.039 you know, once, practice is not like the others. I mean, 188 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:30.000 I'm friends with many other Germanic Heathens, but you know, 189 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:32.519 we all practice in our own way. But that doesn't 190 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.840 necessarily make my way or their way better. It makes 191 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:40.399 it different, sure, but not necessarily better. I guess in 192 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:45.320 a way, now that it has become more more mainstream 193 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:50.120 or more mainstream, like more accepted in the mainstream, perhaps 194 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:55.159 that people have these abilities I do imagine that some 195 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.360 of the early ones, if you will, you know, who 196 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.720 thought themselves masters. Yeah, I mean I can see the 197 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:04.360 threat of like, oh no, there goes my livelihood. But 198 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:08.320 at the same time, shouldn't you be happy that other 199 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:13.200 people are like learning it as well? Because these are 200 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:19.279 natural gifts. You know, there are multiple levels, multiple dimensions 201 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:22.960 to this. You know, whatever it is that we live 202 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:27.120 on or in, or you know, whether whatever shape or 203 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.960 form it may have, there are different dimensions. So to 204 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.759 be able to tap into those, and especially you know 205 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:37.120 the other side, if you will, you know, the mysterious 206 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.919 other sides. You know, nobody knows what happens after death, 207 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:44.600 and that's why it's so scary. So if you can 208 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:49.720 well at least like have a link to it, shouldn't 209 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.639 that make things a whole lot easier. So what you're doing, 210 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.600 I think it's great. Yeah, I mean, I'm amazed that 211 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:59.840 it seems no, but it seems also that so many 212 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.279 people at a a later stage in their lives are 213 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.519 now doing it, because like that's that's also something that 214 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.679 you hear so often, Like, you know, if you don't 215 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.720 start young, then like by the time you're I don't know, 216 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.559 thirty forty like it it's too late because it takes 217 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.039 so many years to develop. And so what's like, what's 218 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.000 your what's your take on this is? Like, should everyone 219 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.240 try and develop these things? 220 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.159 Or if some people have no interest, they don't care, 221 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.039 they don't believe in it. It's not something we should 222 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.600 try to force on people. Okay, let's let's put it 223 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.000 in the in the public schools. It's not quite like that, 224 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:46.440 but not the opposite extreme. I think most people aren't 225 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:49.559 against it, they just don't know it's possible. And putting 226 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.919 it out there for people who are interested, maybe people 227 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.519 who go to mediums and spend a lot of money 228 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.480 and are grieving people if they maybe take a class 229 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:02.679 and realize that they can connect with people on the 230 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:06.840 other side. Mediumship is all about healing and bringing love 231 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:09.840 between the side and the other. So the more people 232 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:14.279 who can experience it by receiving a reading, knowing that 233 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:19.399 mediumship exists, and possibly developing it themselves, it brings healing 234 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.759 to people. It helps relieve the fear of death because 235 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:25.960 you know you're not really dead, there's an afterlife. It 236 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.759 helps with grieving because you know that you learn that 237 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:35.240 your spirit person spirit people are still alive and well 238 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:38.519 and can be aware of your life and get your messages. 239 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.799 So because it's so healing, I think that making it 240 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:47.320 more accessible is a good thing for the planet for people, 241 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.960 but not necessarily everybody. This is your next step. But 242 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:57.039 I think it's kind of like learning an instrument. Some 243 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:02.039 people like Mozart have this amazing they're writing symphonies, they're 244 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.880 at age five. They just have this brilliant gift. And 245 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.039 then you have people who don't, who decide to play 246 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:12.559 the recorder or the trumpet in elementary school and they 247 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.759 might sound terrible, but people don't say, well, if you're 248 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.079 not born with this amazing musical talent, don't join the band, 249 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.960 don't play the trombone. We don't do that. You have 250 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.240 to be born that way. You just encourage them to 251 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:31.440 make music. Some of them will continue, some of them won't. 252 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:36.200 But with mediumship, with training, learning how it works, how 253 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:40.640 it's done. It's not magic. It's more like science than magic. Really, 254 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.160 step by step learning how to do it. It makes 255 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:48.000 it accessible and it's still amazing and healing. And if 256 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:50.839 somebody is like, oh my god, this is my life's calling. 257 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:54.519 Even if I don't find out until I'm almost fift 258 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:58.519 and you still go for it. It's not I don't 259 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.839 believe that if you don't spontaneously see dead people when 260 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.960 you're a kid, or after a near death experience or 261 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:13.240 anything like that, you can't become a successful, accurate, compassionate, 262 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:14.200 helpful medium. 263 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.519 So do you believe that kids, or most kids, I 264 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.960 should say not all of them, of course, have this 265 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:27.480 this this greater ability at least to see things, to 266 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.079 connect with things, because that's something I hear a lot 267 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.279 in it. I actually talked about with my wife. I believe, no, 268 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.000 with a good friend of ours. Actually, I believe, like 269 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.799 just yesterday, that all these different kinds of behaviors, like 270 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:47.000 self sabotaging behaviors, that they are that they're taught. I mean, 271 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.799 I know that my kids, I mean they're you know, 272 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:53.039 they're lucky with their their parents having a well being 273 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:58.880 spiritually gifted, but they can definitely see things and notice 274 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:03.759 things that well that I can't anymore. So do you 275 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:08.640 believe that children like they have this innate ability or 276 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:11.640 is that also something that is, you know, that could 277 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:12.720 be developed over time. 278 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:19.559 I agree that many or most many children have innate 279 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:25.440 ability to see spirit and be psychically perspective, and then 280 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.440 as they're learned to be logical and rational, and that's 281 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.079 not and some of it's shut down by parents, Oh 282 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:35.680 we don't do that, we don't do that, and then 283 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:39.240 you lose it. My kids didn't see spirit people, but 284 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:43.359 I do remember them being a bit psychically perspective. I 285 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:46.559 didn't tell him that things would happen. I remember some 286 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:50.440 specific things about that. But they weren't seeing spirit people. 287 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:54.839 But other people children are and the old what do 288 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:58.839 they call them, imaginary friends? Some of those aren't imaginary, 289 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:03.000 they're spirit people, but not everybody. Some people's kids don't 290 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.279 have that. But I believe we're more open. We just 291 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:10.119 came more recently from spirit, so we're more connected to 292 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.400 the spiritual aspect of ourselves. And before you get your 293 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:18.359 head filled with numbers and letters and logic, it's probably 294 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:19.400 a lot easier. 295 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:26.440 Yeah, no, it's yeah, no, I definitely agree with with that. 296 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.720 I mean, I know that with well with my parents' generation. 297 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.599 My parents were both raised Catholic but fell off the 298 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:40.799 faith unfortunately also because well they started may sound a 299 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.759 little little cheesy, but they started thinking for themselves and 300 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:49.240 then saw things that didn't like really add up, but 301 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.720 I do believe that there's still something left in them, 302 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.240 especially with my father. He says he's not religious, but 303 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:00.880 I don't know. Like he does go you know, things 304 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:05.640 are too much, he'll go on a silent retreat to 305 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:12.319 a monastery. So that's and he will talk to whatever 306 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.799 he thinks is out there. And especially with the passing 307 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:20.880 of my my younger brother a few years ago, didn't 308 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.559 manage to fight off his own demons, so to speak, 309 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:25.240 so he stepped out prettymaturely. 310 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.960 My goodness, I'm so sorry. Does your wife hear from him? 311 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:35.599 She does, actually she does, and it's it's a little weird, 312 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:39.599 but she is able to, uh to channel him as well, 313 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:42.920 so that in a way I can still talk to 314 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:49.319 my brother but through my wife, which feels very very 315 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.440 odd in a way, and I don't think it's something 316 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.480 that I'll ever really get get used to, but it does. 317 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:01.559 It does make me wish that my parents could too, 318 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.480 But like that's the difficulty. They don't they don't believe 319 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:06.680 in it. 320 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:12.319 You know, you could learn to do this. You could 321 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:16.240 come take one of my five hour online classes free 322 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.480 complimentary hop in and discover for yourself if you're interested. 323 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:24.799 If you're like I would be open to doing that. 324 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:29.079 You could come and do that and you would see 325 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.359 how I teach people, and you would be taught also, 326 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.160 and there's a really good chance you would connect with 327 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.440 a spirit person for someone else in the class. 328 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.599 I would, actually I would. I would quite like that. 329 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.720 Although you don't have to decide now you can. I 330 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:49.519 think about that. 331 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.279 I'll discuss it with my uh my wife as well. 332 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.960 I mean, two mediums in the same household, maybe a 333 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:55.440 bit much. 334 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.359 It would be fine. It doesn't mean you're going to 335 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:01.720 become a professional and hang up a shingle and compete. 336 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.440 It would just be opening up so that you could 337 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.799 see what it's like and have a direct connection to 338 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:12.119 some people in spirit. 339 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.920 So if you want, I will. I'll think about it. 340 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.319 Thank you for the thank you for the offer. But 341 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.359 I mean I do have a question. That is, I 342 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.359 know you know many people. It seems like more and 343 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:27.559 more people do get diagnosed with things like ADHD and 344 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:32.119 autism and that they have a that they have trouble 345 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:37.240 with sensory overload. As a starting medium, how do you 346 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:41.359 put up those those boundaries Because I know that my wife, 347 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.920 who unfortunately is preoccupied by family of course, that sometimes 348 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.160 everyone is just wanting to talk to her at the 349 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:54.319 same time, and she gets this just huge sensory overload 350 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:57.680 by people who aren't here and that only she can hear. 351 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:02.960 So how do you put up those boundaries? Because I 352 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.720 know that will be beneficial for myself as well. I 353 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:06.880 get a chaotic mind. 354 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.759 I have excellent boundaries. So personally, I connect with spirit 355 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.240 people when I want to. When I'm giving a reading, 356 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:19.119 doing a demonstration, teaching a class, a circle, and I 357 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:22.519 use my intention to connect with spirit people, connect with them. 358 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:27.200 When I'm done, I don't, so I don't personally have 359 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:31.480 that feeling of being bombarded by spirit people. However, I've 360 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:35.440 had hundreds of students who are. And what you do 361 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:40.359 is need to create and maintain strong boundaries, and you 362 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:44.160 can start by doing that with embodied people. The people. 363 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.880 I don't know your wife and she's not here, But 364 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:52.599 generally the people who have a challenging time with spirit 365 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:57.960 people in their face in the supermarket wherever, Hey, will 366 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.200 you do this are the same and generally the same 367 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:05.559 people who have trouble with boundaries with embodied people like 368 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.279 friends or family who suck their energy help me do this, 369 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.680 Will you do that? Will you do that? And you 370 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.480 have trouble saying no. You might have an hour of 371 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:19.039 your time you were gonna take for yourself, but somebody's like, 372 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.960 I need you. Will you listen to me wine for 373 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.480 the next hour instead, and they say yes. So there 374 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:31.279 is I have found a correlation between letting embody people 375 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:37.279 and take too much of your energy that's not in 376 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.079 the healthiest way. Yes, we want to be empathic, compassionate, 377 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:44.200 supportive people, so I'm not saying it's all about me 378 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:48.799 and don't bother me, but sometimes it's not healthy. So 379 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.319 there's the correlation between boundaries. So you start off if 380 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.559 that's true for somebody. Usually when I ask people to say, 381 00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.559 well I'm better than I was that we'll talk about 382 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:05.799 how they've improved. So you start saying no to embodied people, No, sorry, can't. 383 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.720 I'm busy, even if busy means you're going to take 384 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.279 care of yourself, so you say no. And then it's 385 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.680 exactly the same with spirit people. You decide when you 386 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.480 want to connect to spirit people when you're open, and 387 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.720 if you're not, you say no in your mind with 388 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.039 your intention. You can ask your spirit team for help. 389 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.440 Hey, that's wife of joining. 390 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:34.920 So finish the You set the boundaries and you decide 391 00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.599 when you're open or not. And if this is your 392 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.960 private time with somebody or you meditating and somebody like 393 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.400 spirits there, it's like no and you have to mean it. 394 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.480 A lot of people are afraid to say no because 395 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.680 they think if they say no to a connection from 396 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.279 a spirit person that means that they'll lose the ability 397 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.519 and they'll never be able to connect with anybody again. 398 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.160 Or people think that they're obligated to if a spirit 399 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.079 comes through and wants them to connect with them, they're 400 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.079 somehow because they can, they're obligated to do this. So 401 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:09.400