WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:01.879 Hey, guys, what you're about to listen to is an 2 00:00:01.879 --> 00:00:05.200 episode of plug Talk, the Only podcast where me and 3 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:07.879 my fiancee, Elena of the Plug, interview girls and then 4 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:09.839 have sex with them afterwards. If you want to see 5 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:11.519 the full thing, you're gonna have to head on over 6 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:14.960 to our OnlyFans hit up only plug talk dot com, 7 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.000 and it's easy to figure it out. Enjoy. Hey, everybody, 8 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.399 welcome to another episode of plug Talk. I'm out in 9 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:22.839 twenty two. This is my beautiful wife, Elena the Plug. 10 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.199 Hi everybody, and today we're bringing you something special. This 11 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:29.039 is a couple's episode. We have Hailey Rose and Max 12 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.879 Phills on the couch today. How are you guys doing. 13 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:35.200 I'm so excited. I love I love talking shit, so. 14 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.960 Yeah, I'm excited to get to know you guys. I 15 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:41.799 met you at a party at Dan's house last year. 16 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.320 Oh yeah, and we. 17 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:44.640 Haven't done content together yet. 18 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.240 I haven't really had like too many conversations with you guys, 19 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:48.799 but I just found out they went to the same 20 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:49.840 college as me, and that's where you. 21 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:53.119 Guys met, which is so cool. And you guys are 22 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:54.159 actually married. 23 00:00:55.280 --> 00:01:00.479 Yeah, yeah, okay, Well it all happened really quick, like 24 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.479 when we first got together and everything, because when we 25 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.000 first met each other, like neither of us wanted really 26 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.599 to date each other because we had both just gotten 27 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.120 out of long term monogamous relationships that did not end 28 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.280 well for either of us. So we were like fucking 29 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.920 for a while and like pretending we weren't falling in 30 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:18.560 love with each other when like we really were. 31 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.079 But this is before porn, This is way before and 32 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:22.879 this is while you guys were still in college. 33 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.680 Yes, yeah, was in a frat. This was like right 34 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:26.840 during COVID. 35 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:28.959 Oh yeah, I almost didn't date you because he was 36 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:30.719 in a frat and I didn't like frat boys. 37 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:32.920 Really, you don't really seem like a typical frat boy. 38 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.120 I'm not a typical frat boy, but in a little bit, 39 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:36.079 I'm a degenerate. 40 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:40.319 And also the seriousness with which you approached the beer 41 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.959 pong that we were playing before, for sure revealed your 42 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:44.159 frat boys nature. 43 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:45.000 It's not just a game. 44 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.319 He just knew a lot of like small rules that 45 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:51.439 I didn't answer. 46 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.560 Okay, I used to play a lot of beer die. 47 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.799 I know that it's okay, there's a cup on each 48 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.000 corner and you throw the die up. Really high in 49 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:05.719 the guy. It's like a total It's like. 50 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.159 You just throw it really hard one dice into the air. 51 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.120 And like, but it's not supposed to land in the 52 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:11.919 cups or anything. 53 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:13.439 It is supposed to land in the cups, but usually 54 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.479 it hits the table. So it hits the table once 55 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.199 and then you're supposed to catch it before it touches 56 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.759 the ground. Okay, And that's like. 57 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.039 It was like so many stupid games. It's crazy, like 58 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:29.360 the flip cup. I like that one, just like regiated. 59 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.759 Gate, yes, games and just anything to get drunker, like 60 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:33.639 any excuse. 61 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:35.759 Now I just get drunk without a game. 62 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:43.919 Now, I'm just now I never drink, no drink, yeah, okay. 63 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.520 But so all right, so you guys were going to 64 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.599 college together and you fall in love. How many years 65 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.719 are you together while you're in college? 66 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.560 Just like last year we I met her right before 67 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.759 I graduated, and I had gotten kicked out of my 68 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.199 girlfriend's house and I was living in the frat house. 69 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.080 Actually yeah, and then there was a few times we 70 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:02.840 were like fucking in the frat house and like yeah, 71 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.400 and your fratmate's. 72 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:04.439 Got all mad. 73 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.199 They would I would living in the living room because 74 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.800 like you know, I just needed a place to stay 75 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.319 and I would be fucking here in the living room 76 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.080 and it was during finals week, and. 77 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:15.919 You didn't care if somebody walked in. Was that kind 78 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:18.520 of normal environment. It was just a little bit normal. 79 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.360 I think it was like on top we were just 80 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.520 being a little low key, like this is a quickie. 81 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:23.439 These are my brothers. 82 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.240 Like also, I would go over and he'd be like, oh, 83 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.120 Haley has a tattoo on her butt, Like you should 84 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.560 show them your butt. I would like flash my butt 85 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.879 at them and things. But but yeah, we totally were 86 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:36.439 fucking that one time during the finals week. 87 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.479 Oh yeah, and then the one homie came out and 88 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.719 was like shut the fuck. He didn't care that we 89 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:42.240 were naked. He was like, shut the fuck up and 90 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:43.599 try to study for finals. 91 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:45.240 Yeah, he kind of chewed us out. 92 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.080 Do you think he apologized, Like did sex bring you 93 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:51.240 together in the first place? I mean, yeah, he's that 94 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:53.800 a big part of what got you goes and yeah. 95 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.159 So I had we just got out of a relationship 96 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.080 and I was like, listen, bitch, I'm not trying to 97 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:59.960 go on a million dates. I'm just trying to fuck. 98 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:01.280 That's it. 99 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.240 Like I'm just trying to see a girl that will 100 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.120 fuck me on the first date. Like I pretty much 101 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:07.639 said that on the Tinder chat. 102 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:09.639 We both agreed to fuck on the first day, and 103 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.080 then the first date happened and we actually didn't end 104 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:12.759 up having sex. 105 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.199 Why not because we actually enjoyed each. 106 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.199 Other out and then it got really late. 107 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:18.959 So you guys still met on Tinder even though you 108 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:20.399 guys were going to the same college. 109 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.519 So I had seen her a few times in like 110 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:24.600 the bus, the loop bus. 111 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:24.839 Oh Man. 112 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:29.480 Tinder just like the default dating network for everybody in college. 113 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.800 Most of the other apps suck anyway, so like, also, 114 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.199 I was just trying to fuck, so I was like 115 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:37.360 Tinder what Like, I wasn't trying to meet my soulmate, 116 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:40.079 but then I ended up like meeting my husband. 117 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:41.800 Were you promiscuous before you met him? 118 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:42.519 Yes? 119 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.879 Okay, yeah it sucks too because I met her like 120 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.720 at the end of college and she, you know, after 121 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:51.240 I met her, she was like, yeah, I've been doing 122 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:54.920 like threesomes and like organizing orgies, and well I. 123 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.240 Tried to organize an orgy, but actually no one showed 124 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.639 up to my orgy. I like, I'd like dudes, I 125 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.519 had like six or seven girls, like all in the group. Cat, 126 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.240 I was like organizing everyone. We were all down. 127 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.879 And like the day comes my one friend who I. 128 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:11.680 Did threesomes with, it was just me and her like 129 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.759 waiting for everybody, and no one showed up. 130 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:14.279 Wow. 131 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.480 Can you believe one If the guys had showed up, 132 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.759 he would have gone all the pussy wow, But everyone 133 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:20.439 was too chicken. 134 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.399 That's honestly satisfying, and I'm sorry. It's sad. 135 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.480 Someone needs to throw me an orgy now to make 136 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:27.000 up for it. 137 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:31.639 Did you ever try to bang him with his frat brothers? Actually, 138 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.279 in retrospect, he probably would have. 139 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:34.279 I brought it. 140 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.519 Up to you because I asked you for my birthday 141 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.040 if I could have a gang bang with all the 142 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:38.639 frat guys. 143 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:39.439 Do you remember that? 144 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:40.360 I remember that? 145 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.959 And then you were I was probably like fun, now, 146 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.759 well you I knew it probably wasn't gonna happen, but 147 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.480 you said yes. So I was like, I'm like, I'm 148 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:53.959 glad you're down to like gang bing, but like it 149 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.279 wasn't like, you know, like a bunch of regular dudes 150 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:57.800 usually wouldn't like agree to that. 151 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.319 That's like right, Yeah, So how long did it take 152 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.839 for you guys to realize that you weren't gonna get 153 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:05.920 jealous about being in an open relationship or whatever. 154 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:08.439 I mean, that was kind of the goal from the beginning. 155 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.120 I was, we were like, listen, we really don't want 156 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:14.240 to be together. Let's just like keep hooking up and 157 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:16.720 I'm gonna fuck other girls, like fuck other dudes. I 158 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:21.439 don't care, it's not my problem. Well, we never really 159 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:24.160 got jealous up until like we started doing porn. 160 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.480 Really is that weird? So you would you would know 161 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.120 that you hung out with her on a Friday and 162 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.800 on a Saturday, she was fucking somebody else, and your 163 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.399 brain didn't go to, like this pisses me. 164 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.920 Off, No, because I was usually busy fucking other girls. 165 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:40.759 So like, you know, I just focus on whatever I'm doing. 166 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:42.680 Okay, well we're. 167 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:43.600 Open from the beginning. Yeah. 168 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:43.920 Yeah. 169 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:45.920 I feel like once we started living together and like 170 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.920 spending every day with each other, and then you would 171 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:50.720 be like talking to someone else, then I started trying 172 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:55.000 to be like, hmmm, like I'm feeling the jealousy feelings. 173 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.839 Right, Because whenever me and her have suggested the idea 174 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.639 of like swinging or whatever, I think I'm immediately we 175 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.120 just land on the idea of like or not swinging, 176 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.560 but like being open is like, what would it be 177 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:09.040 like if on a Friday night, she's at home doing 178 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.399 some laundry, kicking back watching the documentary and I'm off 179 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:13.680 fucking some girl like. 180 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:15.279 I would love my peaceful house. 181 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:23.000 Nobody talks to me. Okay, well this is the just 182 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:24.199 wants alone time. 183 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:26.959 To be alone anyway. 184 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:28.399 Well you know what I'm saying. 185 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.600 It would I got to go out the next night 186 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:33.920 and you stayed home, then would be even. 187 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.240 I'd be pissed, like I can't do it anymore. 188 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:38.800 Usually when one of us is working, the other ones 189 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:39.399 working at. 190 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.720 The same time, working at the same time. 191 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:45.959 So now that you guys do porn, is the rule 192 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.160 that you only fuck seen partners and nothing off camera? 193 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.439 Or I feel like the rules are usually always like flexible. 194 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:53.600 Yeah. 195 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:55.519 The thing that I've learned being in a very open 196 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.399 relationship is that your boundaries and your comfortability levels with 197 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.399 things can change, and they do, and so you always 198 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.519 have to be in like constant conversations about Okay, like 199 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:05.560 I did this thing. 200 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.519 Last weekend, how did that feel for you? Like were 201 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:08.199 you jealous? 202 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.120 Like do I need to do anything different? In the future, 203 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.720 so like it's kind of fluid and it changes. 204 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.279 But like, but if the rules are always changing, then 205 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.000 you could never know if you're breaking the rules, right, 206 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:19.439 I feel like the rules need to be. 207 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:23.680 Kind of like you're allowed to say, hey, I actually 208 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.000 thought I was okay with that, but when I once 209 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:26.720 I saw. 210 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:28.079 You do it, it made me feel weird. 211 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.519 But if that rule changes back to the way it 212 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.679 was before a couple of weeks later, Like, I feel 213 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.600 like you're kind of asking to me in a constant 214 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.279 state of chaos. 215 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:40.559 Dude, I mean we were, dode, I feel it. 216 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:44.639 Who's gotten the most jealous and what was it? 217 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:46.399 That's a good question. 218 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.039 I feel like we've both had moments where like there 219 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:53.320 was definitely like I was like that crossed my fucking boundary, 220 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.759 and you were very much like apologetic. 221 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:56.480 I felt. 222 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:58.240 Something. 223 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:00.279 No, I fucked this girl at a party and I 224 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:01.080 didn't invite her. 225 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.759 I just like, like, I really love public sex, and 226 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:07.679 so when there's an opportunity when bird built at the 227 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:14.639 same party to have public yes, so we were like okay. 228 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:19.399 Like since then, I'm like no, but a little bit. 229 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.320 That I feel like we I just like, I'm like, whatever, 230 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:27.639 you're gonna do, just let me know beforehand. 231 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.399 If you just tell me first before you do it, 232 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:30.960 it's cool. 233 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:32.879 Like, but what if you said I'm going to fuck 234 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:34.320 her and I really just want to fuck just her. 235 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.039 I would respect that because there would be there's been 236 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:38.559 times where I'm like I want to fuck. 237 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:40.360 You would have been cool with that. You would have 238 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:41.440 been like, not her. 239 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.159 Okay, well, because well the thing about that time was 240 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.519 I specifically told you not to fuck anyone else at 241 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.039 the party, and then you literally went and did it. 242 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:51.279 It was bad. That was bad. 243 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.799 That was really okay, Like because for me, I feel 244 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:57.720 like I don't have like any rules on camera. 245 00:09:57.960 --> 00:09:59.679 Like I think in the beginning, I was like, oh 246 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:01.559 I don't kissed them, don't cuddle them, whatever. 247 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.720 And now it's like this is like eight years later, 248 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.679 you know, but before I feel like there'd be certain 249 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:08.600 people maybe who I just. 250 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:11.960 Like didn't trust as much. Not kidding, but like the 251 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.039 other party of like not that girl. 252 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:15.720 You know, I was just thinking about that when you 253 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.320 were just saying like, oh, yeah, I'd be happy for 254 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:24.039 you to go fucking random girl. Okay, if she random girl, 255 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.919 I could kind of imagine it. A girl with clout 256 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:30.159 hell a fuck. No, that is you would never stand 257 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.480 for that, or if you in any way felt like 258 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.200 she was hotter than you. 259 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:34.879 No, that's not true. 260 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.320 And we've looked so many girls that I think are 261 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:39.360 harder than me. What are you talking about. 262 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:44.679 I'm just trying to be ever been on plug talk, Yeah, 263 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.360 your standard. You're not gonna get jealous about something happens 264 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.200 on plug talk because you're there. Yeah. True. 265 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.279 Yeah, that's like, so when we were first dating, we 266 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.600 were like seeing other people and like, dit a little rocky. 267 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:57.519 I think someone like. 268 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:00.720 There's one time with this guy was like totally overseeing 269 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:01.480 my boundaries. 270 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.240 Then we slapped me so fucking hard the next day. 271 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:08.360 The whole side of my face was red and I 272 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.039 had to go to work the next morning. This was 273 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:11.440 when I still had a civilian job. 274 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:13.320 And you guys are like basically dating and this is 275 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:17.559 just something that's happened outside. Oh my god, chilled him 276 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.960 see that? And that kind of thing is the hazards 277 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.279 of the open relationship thing is that like stuff can 278 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.080 like it all seems well and good if it's just sex, 279 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.799 as soon as it turns into something else and you 280 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:32.759 feel like someone did something that you don't agree with 281 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.679 to you're a girl. Oh man, it was a. 282 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.120 Bad It was really bad. And then after that we 283 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.679 we stopped seeing people separately. We were only like doing 284 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.759 start like that's when we really started swinging, and we're 285 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:46.240 like doing swaps with like. 286 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.759 Another couple of weeks, switch girlfriends, yeah or whatever, And 287 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:53.360 that was fun cool for a while, but then we 288 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.240 were like, we can fuck hotter people, and that was 289 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.559 part of the motivation to start the only fans. 290 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.320 It's a hotter people and you guys have always been 291 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:04.039 able to just have open conversations about that about like 292 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.120 the quality of the people that you're fucking. 293 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.440 I mean he always asks me, like she's straight up. 294 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:10.960 I mean, like dude, like I'd be lying if I 295 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:12.799 said a lot of the guys that she had to 296 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:14.799 fuck were not ugly, Like it was always like a 297 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.840 dropped at gorgeous woman and then like a ugly old 298 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:19.159 rich boyfriend. 299 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.480 That's porn in general, is like most. 300 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.399 Of swinging though, Oh yeah, yeah, swing at least porn. 301 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:25.639 It's the better, it's a little better. 302 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.399 Yeah, you have to be in decent shape if you 303 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:29.759 want to be. 304 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.200 On camera, like you know what to do, Like the experience. 305 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.799 Guys, you guys have a blog talker pretty good, you know, 306 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:36.480 they're not ugly. 307 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.879 Yeah, But like typically in relationships in general, you get 308 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.600 a lot of hot, younger woman and slightly older, less 309 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.159 attractive guy who just happens to be doing quite well 310 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.799 for himself. That's a pretty usual dynamics. 311 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:53.679 He basically got the better end of the stick and 312 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:56.200 sing and so. But not even that. I mean, I 313 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.480 also just a lot of times we had some issues 314 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:01.600 talking to about testing with swingers. 315 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:03.720 But that was one time we went to a party 316 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.799 and I got chamydia afterwards, and I told everyone in 317 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:09.399 the group time, I'm like, hey, guys, I just tested 318 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.840 positive for this. Please everyone go test, like take care 319 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.840 of yourselves. And they were very offended. 320 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.919 That I was bringing it up at all. Wait what Yeah, 321 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:19.600 which is like silly because you're coming to. 322 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.559 It from a porn perspective where it's like we need 323 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.080 to be one hundred percent open about it. 324 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:24.120 Shouldn't get checked. 325 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.200 Everyone take care, Like I just want people to not 326 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:27.320 have diseases. 327 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.120 That was all that was on my mind, because like, 328 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.080 it sucks getting that ship. But I still think it's crazy. 329 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.840 That that sex parties get thrown and often don't ask 330 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:37.799 like do you guys have get tested for these parties? 331 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:39.360 And people say no, they don't. 332 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.480 It's like such an easy measure to take if you 333 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.759 already know what you're doing on Saturday, they don't. 334 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:49.919 You just get tested for it. It's not that expensive, right, Yeah. 335 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:53.200 Swingers are gross because they get offended if you're like 336 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:55.720 asking for their tests like we had. 337 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:58.399 There was a lot of like, I'm not dirty, but 338 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.759 it's like but that's the difference porn people and swingers 339 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.919 is that they're like weekend warriors, like they'll go do 340 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.000 this on a Saturday night and then it's not like 341 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:08.559 they have to like earn a living if they have 342 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.399 to take the next couple of Saturdays off, like they 343 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.799 were probably gonna do that anyway, whereas for a porn 344 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.080 person it's like, oh, I can't work for two weeks, 345 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.279 this is fucking up my whole rhythm and yeah. 346 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:19.559 True, and a lot of them were cool about it. 347 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:20.919 There was just a select. 348 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.799 Few that like ruined the experience for me and like 349 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.480 condoms were a thing, but everyone hates fucking with a 350 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.240 condom on Oh yeah, like no one likes that ship. 351 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:29.759 So I can't. 352 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.960 But then they would like suck your dick without a condom, 353 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.159 but then where and it's like there's still fluid exchange happening. 354 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:38.559 So it's just kind of like great, really work. 355 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:40.120 Yeah, it would be so weird to go to a 356 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.360 swinger spurty and fuck a girl with a condom on. 357 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:47.000 It would just feel so crazy and then you have 358 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:48.679 to like take it off to go and put it 359 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:49.879 in then on for the other girl. 360 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.960 That's the craziest, Like how many do you need? So many? 361 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:54.000 They have bold. 362 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.000 Guys change their condom they'll just like double dip in 363 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.120 girls with with the same condom on. I mean I 364 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:02.000 did it too, because like fucking like it was just 365 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:03.720 so it was a messy. 366 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:10.559 Streams like fucking throw a shirt, just take a T shirt. Okay, 367 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.360 So you guys got into porn when like right as 368 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.639 the pandemic was taken off or what more. 369 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.399 Near the end of the pandemic, like twenty twenty one. 370 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.320 But so right out of college, you guys basically started 371 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:23.360 doing I was working. 372 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:26.360 I was actually teaching in after school program for like 373 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.679 four to six months, and then I quit that because 374 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:33.120 it sucked. And then after I quit, we kind of 375 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.000 came up with the OnlyFans idea And uh, had. 376 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.840 You ever thought about that previously or was it really 377 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:42.480 like impacted by the pandemic or what made you feel 378 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:44.360 so comfortable with the idea of I mean. 379 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.879 He it was kind of like his idea, and he 380 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.159 always believed in me, and he always like you're the like, 381 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.399 you know, hottest girl ever, like you can do whatever 382 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:52.240 you want, like shit. 383 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.080 And he posted a picture of me on Reddit on 384 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:58.279 the busty fatigue and it went crazy. We got like 385 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.039 nine thousand upvodes like. 386 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:01.919 Bus stepids check that out. 387 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:02.799 So many groups. 388 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.759 I don't know. I haven't gotten into the Reddit porn wormhole. 389 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:07.120 I know it's out there, but. 390 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.000 Where I started it used to be better back in 391 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:13.919 twenty twenty twenty one. Yeah, because ever since Reddit went public, 392 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.200 they it just shit went south. 393 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.879 Really where you just can't post as much porn or what. 394 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.960 All of their aps, so all their APIs don't work anymore. 395 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.039 So it's really hard to use like their third party 396 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.639 websites or anything that helps videos or pictures. 397 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.200 As hard I access read it through the Reddit app, 398 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:32.480 You're you're using something else. 399 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:34.759 Yeah, so all the Reddit apps don't work anymore. Oh really, 400 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.240 most of them don't work anymore. There was one called 401 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:40.480