WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.679 All right, everybody, good evening, Good evening. Welcome to another 2 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:14.519 edition of The Cajun Night. I am the Cajun Knight, 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.000 Jacob Mook, and so here I was here. I was 4 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:20.960 getting ready for this episode today, and I thought, you 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:24.519 know what, let me just peruse the news as we do, 6 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:29.000 just nothing in particular, just random little topics that were 7 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.359 coming up on the news, some of them from liberal media, 8 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.280 some of them from more conservative sources. And I gotta 9 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:37.880 tell you, I wasn't expecting to see all of these. 10 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:41.960 Some of these I expected, right, Yes, the updates on Doge. Yes, 11 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.799 some things that Trump is going on about these days, 12 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:48.560 like you, sure, absolutely I expected to see that. I 13 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:53.600 didn't expect to see the NSA firing one hundred people 14 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:59.240 because of explicit chat room conversations. Apparently TULSI found some 15 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.640 inappropriate conversations going on with someone for agents and fired 16 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.319 a hundred of them. So, yeah, we're gonna talk about 17 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:09.359 all of that. I apologize now my voice sounds a 18 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:14.120 little a little horse. I was in New Orleans most 19 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.319 of the day to day, and not for the fun reasons, 20 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:19.760 not for Mardi Gras. I was there Norwich Military Academy 21 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.879 or University. I should say, they are down here right 22 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.319 now for a ROTC drill meet at two Lane, and 23 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:28.560 so I went out and helped them, you know, kind 24 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:30.200 of tighten up their drill a little bit and things 25 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.359 like that. It was a fun time, but ended up 26 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:35.400 I because I'm a little bit I'm a little dumb 27 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.280 sometimes I'm just gonna be real with y'all. And I 28 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:41.799 had my hat on backwards, as I do, and I 29 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:44.640 didn't realize that it's been a good while since I 30 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.280 was just indirect, so I have a sunburn. I have 31 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.760 the backwards hat sunburn on my forehead right now. So 32 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.319 I'm like, well, it looks like we're not going to 33 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.000 Bandana for the next few days. But uh, it's also 34 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.200 been a while since I called commands. So if my 35 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.920 voice sounds a little horse, my apologies. But for now, 36 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.079 let's just get straight into the wildness, shall we. So 37 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.879 let's start here. Trump vows to impose twenty five percent 38 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.520 tariffs on imports from the EU. I'm not sure how 39 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.199 this one's gonna play out long term. I know what 40 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.560 he's trying to get out here, I just don't know 41 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.719 if it's gonna work out the way he's thinking it will. 42 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:24.360 But let's listen from the man himself, Old Donnie t 43 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:25.639 as president. 44 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:26.919 If you just made a decision on what level you 45 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.080 will seek on tariffs in the European Union. 46 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.000 We have made a decision. We'll be announcing it very 47 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:38.719 soon and it'll be twenty five percent, generally speaking, and 48 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.280 that'll be on cars and all other things. And European 49 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.199 Union is a different case than Canada, different kind of case. 50 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.520 They've really taken advantage of us in a different way. 51 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:50.599 The European Union was formed in order to screw the 52 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.520 United States. That's the purpose of it, and they've done 53 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.039 a good job of it. But now I'm president, we'll 54 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.639 have it in these countries. Or that you retaliate, they can't. 55 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:03.840 Mean they can try, but they can't. 56 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:06.960 They that wanted to affect China's retalies Ertaris on the 57 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:08.879 tenth of February. Has there been any impact that you've 58 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:10.520 been able to observe? That's right now. 59 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:13.439 They can do it and they can try, but the 60 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.759 numbers can never equal what ours because we could go off. 61 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.599 We are the pot of gold, We're the one that 62 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.560 everybody wants, and they can retaliate, but it cannot be 63 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.599 a successful retaliation because we just go cold turkey, we 64 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:29.879 don't buy anymore, and if that happens, we win. 65 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.080 Intesting So a couple of things that he just said 66 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.080 that I'm not sure if I really get down with 67 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.560 the one hundred percent. I don't believe the EU was founded 68 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.080 and formed to screw over America. Okay, that would be 69 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.400 like saying NAFTA was formed to screw over all other 70 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.719 nations and all of the continents. Not necessarily, the EU 71 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.479 is for their own collective betterment, or at least that's 72 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:56.599 what I was given to believe. I don't believe that 73 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.319 Germany and France are in cahoots to screw over a Maria, 74 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.360 you know what I mean. I just don't see it 75 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.479 that way. It would make sense that all nations of 76 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.039 a certain continent would get together to kind of form 77 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.960 an alliance of sorts, especially in the realm of trades. 78 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:15.080 So I'm not really agreeing with that one. Now, a 79 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:21.000 twenty five percent tariff on everything from EU nations, that's 80 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.360 a little hefty' that's a next level type of tariff. 81 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.720 I mean, what are y'all's thoughts on these things? 82 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.319 Well, I'm kind of against tariffs but then again, he 83 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.480 must be doing some kind of trade off here, and 84 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.199 I think he's a big believer in the positive aspects 85 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.040 of tariffs, and personally I don't see it. But then again, 86 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.639 this isn't really an issue I'm an expert on. That's 87 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.399 just my overall general feeling on it that I've had 88 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:51.360 for many years. I don't like tariffs. 89 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.480 Yeah, I see what they what he's trying to do here, 90 00:04:55.680 --> 00:05:01.800 and I'm not necessarily against tariffs. But if COVID taught 91 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:06.040 us as consumers anything, right, it's that once the prices 92 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:08.439 get hiked up, they're not going to go back down, 93 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.160 even if it gets to be cheaper to actually produce 94 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.160 the good to which we're buying. Just throwing out an 95 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:20.680 example here energy drinks. Fair enough, you know something that 96 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:24.199 I am a huge proponent of, Right cool, If all 97 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.839 of a sudden, all the air drink companies got together 98 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.360 and decide that they're going to market up, call it 99 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.439 for tariff, call for this reason, what, it doesn't matter, 100 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.399 whatever the reason is, and instead of going to two 101 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:36.519 fifty a can, they decide to go to four to 102 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:40.040 fifty a can, and then, through whatever reasons, the supply 103 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.759 chain gets cheaper, and they're able to actually produce it 104 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.360 for fifty cents a can. They're not going to start 105 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.600 selling it back at two fifty a can. If they 106 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:50.839 already get the public use to buying it at this 107 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.800 high price. I just I don't they should. You would 108 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.160 think they would, but that's not the way greedy business works. 109 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:03.279 So hard imports from Europe they're already expensive as is. 110 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.720 Putting on an extra twenty five percent tariff on that, 111 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:09.839 I know what the idea is, Oh well, they'll eat 112 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.959 that cost, not us. That's I just don't see it 113 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:18.199 working out that way, right, Small things, small bumps and prices. Potentially, 114 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:20.920 there's no way you're gonna do that to scale on 115 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.959 everything coming from Europe. I have a hard time believing it. 116 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.439 Getting into this big pissing match with China, right, the 117 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.240 tariff war US versus them, and shit. I okay, fine, 118 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.959 I at least understand that I am not a big 119 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:36.959 fan of China or the CCP, so if we're doing 120 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:40.319 that in that realm okay, I at least understand the 121 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:44.519 purpose behind it. But I mean I get it. America 122 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.199 is a nation of consumers. That's what we do. We 123 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.199 buy other people's stuff like buy and large. But it's 124 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:53.920 not like if America puts too high of tariffs on it, 125 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:55.839 then like, yeah, we just go cold Turkey and then 126 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.160 we'll just stop buying it. They'll lose, they'll sell to 127 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.079 other people and or Yeah, the idea would be that 128 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.639 American industry would pick up the slack on whatever vacuum 129 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.279 is left from European imports and things like that. But 130 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.680 it's not like our infrastructure or our jobs or whatever else. 131 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.560 It's not like our manufacturing is currently up to speed 132 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.360 to pick up that slack. I just don't know. 133 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.399 Yeah, I agree, and you know, I'd certainly prefer that 134 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.439 our country be a manufacturing pub for the world, or 135 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.839 at least for ourselves. But we outsourced so much stuff. 136 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:33.000 So for example, my company makes metal detectors, and we 137 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:34.920 used to make them here in the United States, but 138 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.360 now we get them all made in China. And some 139 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.720 of our people have been asking recently in our meetings, 140 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.639 what are potential tariffs going to do to us? And 141 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.000 you know, how much time would it take for us 142 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.560 to start making them here again, even if we wanted to. 143 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.759 So yeah, maybe it was a mistake to outsource them. 144 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:55.279 But I guess it seemed like, Oh, it's so cheap, 145 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:59.079 and we're gonna be winning. We're gonna be making so 146 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.879 much more money, and I really want us to produce 147 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.319 more here. But I feel like the overall environment for 148 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:11.800 manufacturing is really bad, not only from higher cost of living, 149 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.000 but other things that make it more expensive to produce 150 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.160 stuff here compared to making them in China. And we 151 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.160 got one hundred different things to work on to bring 152 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.879 down costs of production, to make things like cars and 153 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:31.600 microchips and computers here, and metal detectors more efficiently, yeah, 154 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.159 and a thousand other goods. 155 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.720 Now, I'm also thinking that this might be Trump doing 156 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:37.759 the art of the deal. 157 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:38.519 Right. 158 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:40.919 If he throws out the idea of a twenty five 159 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.039 percent tariff, the European nations obviously will get pissed, as 160 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.720 they should. Cool, got you, and then they would be 161 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.200 able to come to the table and maybe negotiate to 162 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:55.240 ten percent tariff or something along those lines. Right, is 163 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.960 this him? You've seen pawing stars, right, You've seen how 164 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.159 they start dickering on price, will absolutely undercut them go 165 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.080 way too low. The doode will come way too high, 166 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.320 and then they try to find some sort of medium 167 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:09.159 ground where everybody feels like they want, but in reality, 168 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:10.759 Rick's the one that's still making the money at the 169 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:12.919 end of the day. I'm wondering if this is not 170 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.399 a part of Trump's thing, and not only with the tariffs, 171 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.679 with tax laws in the IRS, if he's talking about 172 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:23.440 abolishing the IRS altogether, just chopping it all down. Of course, 173 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:27.039 the politicians will get pissed about this, and the bureaucracy 174 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:31.960 will have their upheaval about it. Then when he comes 175 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.399 back and says, Okay, fine, maybe we won't do away 176 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.720 with the IRS, but let's renegotiate all these tax laws 177 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.440 and work for a different percentage, then all of a sudden, 178 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.919 people are more willing to come to the table. I'm 179 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.600 hoping that that's more along the lines of what's happening here, 180 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.279 but it's really hard to tell with this guy not 181 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:48.960 gonna lie. 182 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.360 Yeah, some of the other things they could be arguing 183 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:57.080 about are the NATO minimum defense spending, or the exchange 184 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:00.200 rate between the euro and the dollar, or you know, 185 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:03.080 interest rates in Europe versus the United States. There's this 186 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.919 guy named Tom Luongo who goes on and on about 187 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:12.000 how the entire Jerome Powell is very much anti European, 188 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.200 and he's one of the good guys in Luogo's opinion, 189 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.200 and Janet Yellen would be one of the bad guys. 190 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.879 And Trump is more on the side of Powell trying 191 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:24.080 to screw over the Europeans because somehow he thinks that 192 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.879 will benefit the United States. But most of that, honestly 193 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.279 is over my head. So if anyone's interested, I would say, 194 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.000 check out Tom Luango and yes that. 195 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:38.000 Yeah, I mean I But okay, you're talking about the 196 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:42.559 GDP spending for NATO defense budget here you talk would 197 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.720 you like to see that increased or decreased? 198 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:49.320 I would like NATO to go away, But if it exist, 199 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:51.679 I would prefer that all the countries and it spent 200 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.279 their two percent. I heard it's two percent. I think 201 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:55.320 you've said three percent. 202 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.320 I think I'm not. It's somewhere around there. 203 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.519 Yeah, all of the eure countries are only spending like 204 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.200 one percent on it. But a reason I think Trump 205 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.000 wants that to go up is that that would mean 206 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:12.320 defense contractors in the US like Raytheon and Lockey make 207 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.679 a lot more money because they supply a lot of 208 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:19.399 that weapon rate. So that would be millions potentially, I 209 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.159 probably billions of dollars flowing into the US into those 210 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.559 specific companies, But personally, I don't really want to benefit 211 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.200 those companies too much. I would prefer an overall decrease 212 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.159 in military spending across the board from all countries. So, 213 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.039 you know, that's just my bias. 214 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:40.759 I feel that I'm My bias is that everybody should 215 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.559 be spending ten percent on their military. I know, I 216 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:47.720 know I'm crazy for that, but I'm also the Department 217 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:52.639 of Offense here. That's my biggest jam. But I get it. 218 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.240 If they're going to start dickering on prices about things 219 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:59.559 and percentages on things, there's way more productive things that 220 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.879 they could be going back and forth on right now. 221 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.600 Like I said, I'm hoping that this whole twenty five 222 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:08.399 percent tariff to Europe, maybe that goes for like a 223 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:12.000 year and the European countries collectively get so mad at 224 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.799 him that he's like, Okay, wait a minute, now, let's talk, 225 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.559 and then they start negotiating and finagling on some things. 226 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.559 I don't know. I don't know. We'll see how it goes, 227 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:25.720 but yeah, all right, we got goth Alex Anthony also 228 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.799 in the chat, har g and Grimatria Royce is in 229 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.559 the chat. Kyle, good to see you and as always, 230 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.799 Raven Lee. Great to have all of you with us 231 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.879 on this evening. All right, So next, let's move on 232 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.399 to the next point of potential contention. Elon with these 233 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:48.399 confusing emails that he sent to federal employees. This a 234 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:50.919 kind of mixed bag of emotions on this one. Let 235 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:51.799 me know what y'all think. 236 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.720 Another ominous warning from Elon Musk to federal workers, as 237 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:58.879 the billionaire demands they email what they accomplished last week, 238 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:02.159 he posted to the discretion of the President, they will 239 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.399 be given another chance. Failure to respond a second time 240 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.480 will result in termination. It's the second go at getting 241 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:12.240 the workforce to comply with five billet points justifying their jobs. 242 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.679 After the first attempt led to mass confusion, The Office 243 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:19.480 of Personnel Management eventually told agencies they can determine if 244 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.919 their employees should respond, after several had already told their 245 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.320 workers to ignore the email, with others telling workers to reply. 246 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.399 We advise federal workers, unless your agency has dictated you 247 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.679 not to to respond to this email. In fact, I 248 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.440 can announce that we've had more than one million workers 249 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.960 who have chosen to participate in this very simple task. 250 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.799 A new Harvard Capps Harris poll shows voters overwhelmingly support 251 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.480 reigning in government. Eighty three percent support reducing government spending 252 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:50.759 over increasing taxes, and seventy seven percent say a full 253 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.360 examination of spending is necessary. Musk only got forty four 254 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.360 percent favorability in the same poll, and fifty eight percent 255 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:00.919 of voters thought his Department of Government Efficiency shouldn't have 256 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:06.639 access to American sensitive info. Some Republican lawmakers have been 257 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:10.200 confronted at town halls around the country by angry constituents 258 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.759 over DOGE job cuts. Some have blamed activist groups for 259 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.279 stirring the pot, but are still calling for a lighter 260 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.679 touch in the government slashing efforts. 261 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.440 They have best interest in their retirement. I won't have compassion. 262 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:25.279 I think Elon Musk talk to us about that long time, 263 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:26.159 a couple of years ago. 264 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.960 I think some of this is happening too fast and furiously. 265 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.000 There are rash decisions being made, and it needs to 266 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:33.879 kind of slow down a little bit. 267 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.600 More than twenty federal technology staffers who were integrated into 268 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.080 the DOGE team resigned, according to the Associated Press. That 269 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:44.440 includes engineers and data scientists who wrote in their resignation 270 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.200 letter they would no longer use their skills to quote 271 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:50.720 dismantle critical public services. 272 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.200 Shocker that the AP would be speaking in that way 273 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.639 towards this. So all right, I watched a little bit 274 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.919 of the press conference where was speaking more in depth 275 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:08.000 about these emails, and so did Elon basically, And I 276 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:11.960 know I'm probably oversimplifying it a bit, but according to 277 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:16.440 what Trump and Musk were saying, it is the same 278 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.720 type of trimming the fat, or at least that's the 279 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:22.759 mentality that's going into it. At least that's what they're 280 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:27.679 saying that went into cutting all the wasteful spending from 281 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:31.960 USAID and things like that. So, for example, from what 282 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:38.799 they said, they sent out five million, six million emails 283 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:42.799 to government employees basically asking them what they did this week, 284 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.919 And literally any email would have been acceptable, even if 285 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.759 they told them, you know, kind of a slow week 286 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:51.600 at the office this week, or I was on vacation 287 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.919 this week, it didn't matter. What they were looking for 288 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.639 is essentially how many jobs are currently being paid out 289 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:03.120 to people that are aren't actually clocking into work. From 290 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.879 what they said, the same way that we had millions 291 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.279 of dollars going here that nobody really knew anything about, 292 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:13.440 nobody checked in on. They're saying, essentially, we have thousands 293 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:16.720 of offices around the country that are all federal employees, 294 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.440 and if I sent out an email to every single 295 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.679 one of them, they should be able to respond within 296 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.559 a week's time. If nobody responded, how many of these 297 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:32.080 office positions are actually were cutting a check to them 298 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:35.240 every month and no one's actually clocking in to do 299 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:38.039 that job, right, some of these no show jobs that 300 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.759 they do have within government bureaucracy from time to time. Now, 301 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:46.519 I am not well versed enough to say how thick 302 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:50.799 that really is within our government, but essentially that is 303 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.840 the message that they were putting out. Basically, they're just 304 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.600 seeing if somebody's even in that position or not, and 305 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.000 if they're not, why are we paying that a person, 306 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.720 any ace, a person, a shadow figure, if you will, 307 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.920 to work that job. Now, a lot of people are 308 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:11.119 saying that this is them overreaching, which, of course certain 309 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.519 people are gonna think that Trump breathing is a vast 310 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.359 overreach of his executive power. Like I, okay, fine, I 311 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.400 get it, I get it. But at the same time, 312 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.960 if we have out of five million emails that were 313 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:24.480 sent out, and I'm throwing that number out. I don't 314 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:27.440 know the exact figure, but if five million emails got 315 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:31.240 sent out and only one million emails got sent back, 316 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.880 I see that as a problem. Now, Like they said, 317 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.440 there are certain departments that told their employees not to 318 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.160 respond to them. Okay, the employees did as they were 319 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.799 told by their supervisor, but that supervisor needs to have 320 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.079 an answer for that, Like, I don't know why you 321 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:48.400 even sent that. I have thirty people in my department 322 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.440 and I know them all personally, and this, this, and this. Okay, fine, 323 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:54.079 looks like he vouched for his people. That's solid, but 324 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.599 that is essentially what they're trying to get at here. 325 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.000 What are your thoughts on this? I feel like if 326 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:04.200 I had a crew of thirty people and I was 327 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.680 to send an email out and I only got five 328 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.359 responses back, that should be a clear indication of things 329 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.440 that need to happen or get shifted or changed. But 330 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:17.680 I might be alone with this. What do y'all think? 331 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.279 I'm fully in favor of doge, so that's just my 332 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:29.400 libertarian instinct. And the federal workforce grew six percent under Biden, 333 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.160 so if it goes down three percent. Those are the 334 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:35.960 numbers that I read. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. 335 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:39.839 I would like to cut it way further, so agree 336 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.160 thach is already exceeding my expectations. I'm not expecting it 337 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.519 to cut quite as much as I'd love it too, 338 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.960 but it's doing the right thing in my opinion. 339 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:54.759 No doubt. Again, I don't even know how efficient they 340 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:57.160 wanted these employees to be when they sent these emails 341 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.519 out and we're expecting to get something in return. It 342 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:01.920 was like five bullet points. And I don't know if 343 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.880 they even cared if those bullet points were answered in 344 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.599 kind or if they just got any answer back whatsoever. 345 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:08.680 I don't know. 346 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:13.240 Yeah, but tell us five things you did. That's what 347 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:14.880 it was, right? 348 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.599 And I mean, honestly, how hard is it to say 349 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:21.079 I did this report, I filed this paperwork, I did 350 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.400 this Okay, okay, just send something back and if that 351 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:28.519 email wasn't what they asked for, then they'll probably send 352 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:31.519 you a follow up email asking for more in depth information. 353 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.559 And you go like that. It's been a long while 354 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:36.960 since I worked in some sort of office setting. And 355 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.960 don't get me wrong, I am the worst at responding 356 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.839 to emails. I get it, But if I was working 357 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.920 in a federal office building, I feel like I'd be 358 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.880 a little more keen to answer my emails, especially if 359 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:52.839 it came from the fucking White House. I don't know, 360 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:57.079 that's just me, But we shall see. We'll see if 361 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:01.079 people start responding to these emails a little more uh direct, 362 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.359 I don't. I don't really know. Let's see here. Actually 363 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.960 they should respond, and people should be held accountable, but 364 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.079 it should be looking at work instead of an email. 365 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:14.599 I agree with that, Raven, But I don't know how 366 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.359 that goes as far as looking at in a office building, 367 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.359 because that's the thing we're talking about, a whole government 368 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.839 building full of how many positions. How do you go 369 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:27.839 through and check the efficiency of each employee? I mean, 370 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:29.839 I'm sure there's a method. I'm sure there's some sort 371 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.119 of a grading rubric, right, I mean, I know in 372 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.880 the military we had like our proficiency and conduct marks. 373 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:39.000 I'm sure in an office setting they have like quarterly 374 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:42.440 reviews or something like that. I feel like that's a 375 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.960 thing that we should have. If we don't, then we 376 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.799 absolutely need to start implementing it. But I agree, I 377 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:51.200 think it should be merit based. But I mean we're 378 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:54.799 talking about the federal government. How much merit based things 379 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:58.720 are there actually happening within where our tax dollars being spent. 380 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.400 So no, no, I have hopes. I have hope is 381 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.200 that this will Let's see, most computers track their progress. 382 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:08.519 Almost all companies have reviews and can see what is 383 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:10.759 being done. Yeah, that's true. I guess it's only one 384 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.480 AI system away, isn't it now I think about that 385 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:15.559 out loud. It's all government. Like they all got their 386 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:18.480 cat cards that they put in their and their keyboards 387 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.519 and it says exactly what they do with each stroke 388 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.319 of each key. So it shouldn't be hard to see 389 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.640 which person is being more efficient and which one is 390 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.839 wasting hours. So fair enough, so we will see. 391 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.440 Yeah, you shouldn't at least be able to see activity 392 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.160 that way, and that's a pretty good indicator. But even then, 393 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.599 the private sector, it can be pretty hard to assess 394 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:44.160 how many dollars a person brings in. So it's up 395 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.160 to the judgment of the managers for sure. And it's 396 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:49.319 been hard at most of my jobs in order to 397 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.880 put a number on how much money I've actually made 398 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:55.559 for the company. It's kind of a vague feeling, especially 399 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.319 when you're in chemistry research or something like that that 400 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:02.039 doesn't make any money right away, but it might help 401 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:05.440 the company make money in the future. So I don't know. 402 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:08.039 It's still ambiguous even in the private sector, but I 403 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:10.680 feel like the private sector is under way more financial 404 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.559 stress that it has to actually work, and the government 405 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.559 doesn't have anywhere near enough of that, And as far 406 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:20.400 as I'm concerned, a lot of that can be slashed, agreed. 407 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.480 And every time the government shut down, you know, the 408 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:26.440 last one was in twenty thirteen, there's all this whaling 409 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.720 and gnashing teeth. But they have the most job security 410 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:32.200 of ever anyone, and they get their job back with 411 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:37.400 back pay, and private sector people never pretty practically never 412 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.960 have that kind of security. So I think the government needs, 413 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:42.519 you know, most of the people in it, they need 414 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.279 to be doing something else, more productive, more subject to 415 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:49.039 market forces. And yeah, most of what they're doing is 416 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:52.799 not in the constitution at all anyway, So anyway, that's. 417 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.680 I fully agree. That's my dietron I was living in Washington, 418 00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.400 DC in twenty thirteen when the government shut down. I 419 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:00.319 was in the Marines at that time and I remember 420 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.119 somebody had spread a rumor and somebody had looked up 421 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.200 some law, and god knows if it was actually on 422 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.480 the books, or if it was one of those old 423 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:10.599 school laws from like one hundred and fifty years ago 424 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.039 that never exactly got taken down. Who knows. But the 425 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.480 going trend was that if the government states shut down 426 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.759 for more than thirty days and we didn't receive our paychecks, 427 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:24.400 our contracts were null and void, and we could all 428 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:28.119 just go home, like back to our home states, and 429 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.319 our enlistments would be up. I don't believe that's how 430 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.720 it actually works, but we were all banking on it. Man. 431 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.119 We were waiting to see to please, one more week 432 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.000 stay down, and of course they didn't. They didn't. We 433 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.200 had to go back to work and all the stuff. 434 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.920 But yeah, I just yeah, it's crazy to me that 435 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:51.279 these government organizations that claim that they are just so 436 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:56.200 good at their jobs or so valuable they're you know, 437 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:58.480 doing the things that need to be done and it's 438 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.839 critical for the nation and all this. It's crazy to 439 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.640 see how whenever they're shut down, life continues just trucking 440 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.599 right along, doesn't it. But I don't know, it's never 441 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:11.759 going on for more than I don't even think it's 442 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:13.599 gone a full thirty days. I think when the government 443 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.079 has shut down in the past, it's only been for 444 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.400 like a week or two. And that always seems like 445 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:19.960 it was more of a flex right, that seems like 446 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:23.960 it was a Obama, you know, it was in office 447 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:25.799 at the time, but it wasn't him that shut the 448 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.839 government down, but he got blamed for it. Or was 449 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:30.839 it Congress that god blamed for it? Or was it 450 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:32.680 the Senate that got blamed for it? They just kept 451 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.960 playing past the buck until they decided to show back 452 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:40.119 up to work, and I it always was just covered 453 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.480 in controversy start to finish. But I mean that's what 454 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.559 you get whenever Barry was in office. But all of 455 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:48.400 that to say, as we're talking about that, they also 456 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.279 said that the nation as a whole was in favor 457 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.279 of doge and what was happening, or at least they 458 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.640 were in favor of the government being audited, but they 459 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.920 were not in favor of Elon being the one doing 460 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.319 it because he'll get access to critical information for the people. 461 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.119 And I'm saying I've said it before and I'll say 462 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:13.200 it again, this is a tech guru, y'all, Like, does 463 00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:15.920 anybody actually think that if he wanted your social he 464 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.599 couldn't just get it? Like he's not rich enough to 465 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.599 hire a team of hackers to just do whatever he 466 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.799 wanted to do in the back door anyway, Like he 467 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:27.599 didn't need the permission. He has it and he's gonna 468 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:29.720 use it for you know, the means of which he 469 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:33.920 was hired to do. But like, are people actually worried 470 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.200 that the richest guy on earth just got their credit card? Statements? 471 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.920 Like I just I have a hard time believing that 472 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.200 he's using it for these purposes. But you know, people, 473 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.319 people have their hesitations towards him, especially because now he's 474 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:50.279 getting seen as the dark Maga and and all of 475 00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:52.599 these things. That that whole thing with the chainsaw, I 476 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.720 thought it was funny, but I thought it was better 477 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.599 when the Argentinian president did it. It went harder when 478 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:01.400 you know it was first done by him. But anyway, 479 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.759 speaking of the government spending and the money and the 480 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:09.599 things and the stuff, I'm hearing reports about this, and 481 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.400 I want to get y'all's two cents on this one here. 482 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:16.000 Doge cuts are not saving as much money as first thought? 483 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:20.160 Nearly forty percent of federal contracts canceled by DOGE aren't 484 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.119 expected to save the government any money. That's according to 485 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.119 data from the Trump administration. They say of the twenty 486 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.519 three hundred contracts DOGE canceled, about eight hundred aren't expected 487 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.200 to save the government any money. Official say those contracts 488 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.799 are fully obligated, which means the government is legally required 489 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:40.079 to spend the money it promised. In some cases, DOGE 490 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.160 is canceling contracts for goods and services the US already 491 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:46.279 paid for. The Trump administration says it still makes sense 492 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.400 to cancel the contracts because they're seen as dead weight. 493 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:58.480 Could y'all hear at that time? Yay, nay, yeah, I heard. 494 00:26:58.519 --> 00:26:59.640 Oh yeah, we heard it that time. 495 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.319 All right, good things, good things, all right, So what 496 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:08.880 are your thoughts on this? Apparently forty percent is not 497 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:13.160 doing things to help the nation. But I mean, at 498 00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.400 the same time, you're telling me we got a sixty 499 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.519 percent success rate, I mean that's not the best odds. However, 500 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.039 I'll take that as of what's been going down for 501 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:29.079 the last twenty years. Where are y'all at with it? 502 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.680 Wasn't there the whole twenty eighty like ratio to where 503 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.680 like twenty percent of the people do eighty percent of 504 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:35.039 the work. 505 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:39.519 Probably that sounds about accurate. 506 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.680 So it seems like that would be something in this 507 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.440 case estentially fair enough. 508 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.240 Anthony, you were chiming in there, but the video I 509 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.839 was having issues playing you were what were you saying there? Brother? 510 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.160 I was just saying that, you know, this has only 511 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:01.680 been like what a month ish, like everything was estimates. 512 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:03.680 I am not. 513 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:08.920 Surprised or deterred that it's not quite what we initially 514 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:13.160 thought it was. You know again, even if forty percent 515 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:20.440 isn't doing anything, you know, by by most, by most metrics, uh, 516 00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.000 sixty percent is solid. 517 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.319 Like if I if I. 518 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.400 Instigated an initiative that saved the company I work for 519 00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.599 sixty percent of the spending that they were, you know, 520 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:32.599 in an area that they. 521 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.519 Were doing, I'd get a badass promotion. 522 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:39.440 So you know, Uh, perfect is the enemy of better 523 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.559 and those that hate you will get caught up on 524 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:44.960 Oh you're not at one hundred percent. 525 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.279 When you know sixty is solid? 526 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.599 I agree, absolutely agree. I mean, and like you said, 527 00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.319 it's it's only within the first month this has even 528 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.480 been enacted, Like you're not going to have a one 529 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.519 hundred percent success rate right out the gate. There's been 530 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.640 some mistakes that have happened. They fired some nuclear engineers 531 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.559 and then hired them back the next day. You're gonna 532 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.359 have a little bit of some oops from time to time, 533 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.039 and they fixed it. But yeah, I agree with you 534 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.400 one hundred percent saying that this is at least sixty 535 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:20.319 percent effective as opposed to fueling more of the debt fire. Yeah, 536 00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.640 I'm taking that as a win. Personally. I'll take those 537 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.920 odds every day, and I mean they're only going to 538 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.400 get better as time goes on and as they do 539 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.960 more appealing back the layers of this rotten onion. So 540 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.680 I'm with you. Anybody else have anything to add in 541 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:45.440 on that one? All right, excellent? So moving on into 542 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.079 the next field of things I wanted to discuss on 543 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.720 this evening, we have this one. US and Ukraine close 544 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.599 in on economic deal over rare earth minerals. I'm not 545 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.920 gonna lie. Didn't see that as being the lynchpin for 546 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.799 the deal, but also happy that it is. Uh, y'all 547 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.440 give me a thumbs up if you can hear this 548 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.160 one this time ever after redo it. 549 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.680 Tonight, the US and Ukraine are inching closer to finalizing 550 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.920 a key economic deal. If agreed to by both sides, 551 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.079 it would give the US some of the money from 552 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.640 Ukraine's rare earth minerals. The President Trump has its compensation 553 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.759 for the US helping Ukraine in its work with Russia. 554 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.279 It's all been worked out. We're happy about it, and 555 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.000 I think that. 556 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:36.319 Very importantly, we're going to be able to make. 557 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:41.279 A deal, President Trump says. Ukrainian President Zelensky may visit 558 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.039 Washington this week to sign the agreement. Zelenski says he 559 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.319 wants definitive security guarantees for Ukraine from the US in 560 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:49.839 the future. 561 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:57.440 Okay, so I don't know exactly what deals Zelensky's hoping 562 00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:02.240 to gain from the US. However, it's interesting that the 563 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.960 rare earth minerals would be the lynchpin that would make 564 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.720 this deal go through, because I know, was it last 565 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.440 week or maybe even earlier this week? It's the time 566 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.839 stamp is getting a little fuzzy for me. But Zelensky 567 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.880 was super mad that Putin and Trump had met up 568 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.839 to discuss the end of the war and he wasn't invited, 569 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.000 even though he absolutely was invited to the meeting. But 570 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.079 you know whatever, And now Trump and Zelensky are supposed 571 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.960 to meet up to talk about the other end of 572 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.319 that deal, and now America's gonna get a cut of 573 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.119 the take, so to speak, as far as the minerals go. 574 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:40.079 What are your thoughts on this? 575 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:46.799 Yeah, these rare earths are things like californium, And I 576 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:50.440 just learned a week or so ago. My company uses 577 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:56.839 californium for radiation something like. It's like smoke detectors that 578 00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.960 use amisium. It's these really rare elements that on the 579 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.000 periodic table there are like seventy or eighty or ninety 580 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.920 grams per mole. They're towards the bottom, and they're pretty 581 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.400 rare in the universe, and they're very dense, and they 582 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.279 mostly tend to stink below the Earth's crust, which is 583 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.000 you know why they're not up here as much. But 584 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.240 Russia's got a ton of them, China's got a ton 585 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:25.640 of them, and my business or a related business under 586 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.400 the same corporation, they actually failed to meet a major 587 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.400 revenue target. I hope I'm not revealing too much, but 588 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.400 it was because there's they couldn't get californium out of 589 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:41.960 Russia or Ukraine, and I think even these disputed regions 590 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:49.160 have a lot of these minerals underneath them. So yeah, 591 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.400 my company is waiting to establish better relations with Russia, 592 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.160 and you know, the EU in the western half of 593 00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:02.519 the country is half of the world really is waiting 594 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.160 to see who's going to be controlling these assets. So yeah, 595 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:08.799 it is important. 596 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:11.480 I absolutely agree. Oh yeah. 597 00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:18.559 Archer Daniels, Midland, DuPont, Monsanto and a couple other US 598 00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:21.880 companies have taken control of a lot of Ukrainian farmland, 599 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.079 which wouldn't have been possible three years ago, but they 600 00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:29.599 rewrote their constitution to allow all that farmland to be 601 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:34.000 used as compensation or collateral for all the billions of 602 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:39.559 dollars they were getting in military aid. So Ukraine is 603 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.880 very largely owned by the West now just in terms 604 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:46.799 of acreage, liked percent of it, but I think it's 605 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:47.880 like twenty percent of it. 606 00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:50.680 I could believe that as well. That's like the new 607 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.599 Age imperialism, right. So now it's not the United States 608 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.079 that's going to have a colony in Ukraine, but it 609 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:02.880 will be hypothetically, of course, the United States corporations that 610 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.599 will own the land and farm it or mine it 611 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.920 or whatever the case is, which of course will go 612 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:11.800 back to the US government. So it's new age imperialism. 613 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.559 There's no governments in charge of it. It's all corporations. 614 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:18.079 So all right, we'll see all that shakes out. Just 615 00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.280 pulled up this article the BBC as a matter of fact, 616 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.800 what minerals does Ukraine have and what are they used for? 617 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.239 This was posted fifteen hours ago, so apparently this is 618 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.679 definitely a hot topic of debate. It says Ukraine has 619 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.519 substantial supplies of key minerals, but some are now in 620 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:35.639 Russian occupied territory. Ukraine has agreed to the outline of 621 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.920 a major deal that would give the US access to 622 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.199 Ukraine's mineral deposits, a senior official from Kiev has told 623 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.639 BBC Kiev has faced growing pressure from Washington to seal 624 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.239 the deal, which has been at the center of a 625 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.519 rift between the United States and Ukrainian presidents. What minerals 626 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.159 does Ukraine have? Kiev is estimated to have about five 627 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.599 percent of the world's critical raw materials. Estimates that about 628 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.280 five percent of the world's critical materials are in Ukraine. 629 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:04.000 Five percent doesn't sound like a lot, but five percent 630 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.920 of the world's critical role materials. That's that's a solid chunk, 631 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.119 especially in a country that happens to be war torn 632 00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:15.480 at this moment. This includes some nineteen million tons of 633 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.239 proven reserves of graphite, which the Ukrainian Geological Survey State 634 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.960 Agency says that the nation quote one of the top 635 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.599 five leading countries in quote for the supply of the 636 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.719 mineral graphight is used to make batteries for electrical vehicles. 637 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.880 Ukraine has seven percent of the world's supplies of titanium, 638 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.360 a lightweight metal that is used in construction of everything 639 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:40.400 from airplanes to power stations. You know, I will say 640 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.599 that I hope that their titanium like starts getting used 641 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.079 and maybe we'll get a cut rate deal because that 642 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.679 brigandine that's set up right behind my helmet, that's a 643 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.719 titanium brig. It's light. I like it, and I would 644 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.719 like more parts of my armor to be made by titanium. 645 00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.320 And that shit's expensive. So I'm very much hope that 646 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.960 we get a better deal on that. Of course, here 647 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.159 we go. It also is home to a third of 648 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.400 all European lithium deposits, the key component in current batteries. 649 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.159 I just had a weird feeling that lithium was gonna 650 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.920 make its way into the conversation. Before I pulled this up, 651 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.800 I just I had a feeling in the bones that 652 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.440 lithium was going to be one of these conflict minerals 653 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.039 that was being discussed. Other elements found in Ukraine include 654 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.559 beryllium and uranium, which are both critical for nuclear weapons 655 00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.880 and reactors. They had to throw the weapons in there, 656 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.039 they had to. I would think that it'd be more 657 00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.880 critical for nuclear reactors in this day and age, but sure, 658 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.239 we got to talk about the bombs. Deposits of copper, lead, zinc, silver, nickel, cobalt, 659 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:47.039 and manganese are also significant. Further, Ukraine has significant deposits 660 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.400 of rare earth metals. These are a group of seventeen 661 00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.159 elements that are used to produce weapons, wind, turbines, electronics, 662 00:36:54.199 --> 00:37:01.320 and other productive vitals products vital to the modern world. Turbines, Like, 663 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.119 why would we even add that. That's that's just dumb, 664 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.199 bro But uh, actually, with this BBC article, they have 665 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.000 a map of Ukraine to show what minerals are where, 666 00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:17.000 and uh, yeah, titaniums are zinc, zirconian, excuse me, titanium 667 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:22.519 and zirconium. They have some in the conflict areas. They 668 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.840 have some rare earths in that area as well, But 669 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.760 I mean the rest of Ukraine also has pretty solid 670 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:34.599 deposits of these expensive minerals. So okay, Trump basically coming 671 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.440 in there to make a deal if we can get 672 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.760 a you know, cut rate on some of the stuff. 673 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.679 I get this. Some of the mineral deposits, however, have 674 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:46.280 been seized by Russia, according to Yulia sur Off Danko 675 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.280 spur Of, Yeah, sure, I don't like when they mix 676 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.840 like five consonants next to each other and expect us 677 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.320 to just know how that ship's pronounced. Anyway, Ukraine's Economy Minister, 678 00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:02.679 resources worth three hundred and fifty billion dollars remain in 679 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.519 occupied territories today. In twenty twenty two, the Secretary of Defense, 680 00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:15.840 a geopolitical risk consultancy based in Canada secdev Okay, excuse me, SECDEV, 681 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:20.840 a geopolitical risk consultancy based in Canada, conducted an evaluation 682 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.280 which established that Russia had occupied sixty three percent of 683 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.639 Ukrainian coal mines, as well of half of its manganese, casium, tantalum, 684 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:35.079 and rare earth deposits doctor Robert Muga. Muga principle of 685 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:40.199 secdev says that such mineral add a strategic and economic 686 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.960 dimension in Russia's continued aggression. By seizing them, he says, 687 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:48.039 Moscow denies access to revenue for Ukraine, expands its own 688 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:53.320 resource base, and influences global supply chains. Okay, so wait 689 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.119 a minute, why does the US want Ukraine's minerals? Well, 690 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.559 I mean, I would just say business as whole, but 691 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.920 all right, critical minerals are the foundation of the twenty 692 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:10.599 first century economics. They are keys to renewable energy, military applications, 693 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:14.920 and industrial infrastructure in play a growing strategic role in geopoliticals, 694 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.559 geopolitics and geoeconomics, he said. Additionally, the US is keen 695 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.239 on a deal for Ukraine's mineral resources because it wants 696 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.960 to reduce dependency on China, which controls seventy five percent 697 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.760 of rare earth deposits in the world according to Geological 698 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.000 Investment Group. In December, China banned the export of some 699 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.199 rare earth minerals to the US, having previously limited mineral 700 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.719 exports to the US in the previous year. Okay, so 701 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.440 how would a deal help Kiev exploit its minerals. Some 702 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:48.199 commentators have described the US offer as colonial. Hey, that's 703 00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.840 like I said earlier, how about that? But Kiev is 704 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.599 interested in joint exploration of its resources. According to the 705 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.400 World Economic Forum, Ukraine has about twenty thousand mineral deposits 706 00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.639 covering one hundred and sixteen tight but only about fifteen 707 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.280 percent of sites were being actively exploited at the time 708 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:08.880 of Russia's full scale invasion in twenty twenty two. For instance, 709 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.079 the country's sizeable lithium deposits are still largely untapped. Likewise, 710 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.400 rare earth deposits are known to exist, but none of 711 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.800 them have yet been mined because of a lack of investment. 712 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:22.280 Developing these mineral resources is extremely difficult and expensive. According 713 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:30.039 to Irania Spernum, Whatever, chief executive of Geological Investment Group, 714 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.559 a mining advisory firm based in Ukraine, She argues that 715 00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.320 if Ukraine can attract US investors to help develop its 716 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.840 natural resources, it will be highly beneficial for the country's economy. 717 00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:43.719 We will get technologies in our mining industry that our 718 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.360 mining industry lacks so much, she explained. We will get 719 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.239 capital that means more jobs, tax payments, and we will 720 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.719 receive revenue from the development of mineral deposits. So Ukraine 721 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.800 is on board as long as that means that America 722 00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.960 will help foot some of the bill that goes into 723 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.800 the mining of these minerals. And America's on board because 724 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:04.639 that means that that's one less thing we got to 725 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:10.280 worry about from China. So okay, okay. So we're talking 726 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.760 about potentially ending the war quote unquote. I don't know 727 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:15.840 if that's exactly what's going to lead to this here. 728 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.639 I don't know if one plus one equals two in 729 00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:21.400 that regard, but I could see it helping in a 730 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:26.960 lot of ways. Tony, You, being the resident Russia Ukraine correspondent, 731 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.119 what is your take on this? 732 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:33.480 I wish I were more knowledgeable, but my overall take 733 00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.000 is I hope that we can get along with both 734 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:41.039 of these countries. It's just after World War Two. I 735 00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:43.639 feel like it took about five years for America to 736 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:48.079 get along with Germany and Japan, and it was only, 737 00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:56.360 unfortunately driven by enmity against the Soviet Union. So I 738 00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.719 hope we don't develop a new enemy to rally against. 739 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.639 And I'm really hoping that Russia and Ukraine can can 740 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.320 bury the hatchet like the American North and South did 741 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.119 after the Civil War, and that we can all be 742 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.559 one big, happy family. I realized, maybe that's too optimistic. 743 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.880 We can just exploit these minerals together, the same with 744 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.480 same with China. I first heard more about this with 745 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.960 regard to China a few years ago and how we 746 00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.480 get a lot of europium from them. It used to 747 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.559 be used to make the red pixels in crttvs, and 748 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.280 since those are going away, we don't need as much 749 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.599 europium anymore. But I worked for a company that actually 750 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.599 used a lot of europium and it was more expensive 751 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.760 than gold, if I remember correctly. We were getting that 752 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.599 from China. And you know, I feel like market forces 753 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.440 should just be able to distribute any of these rare 754 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.800 metals anywhere. And well, anyway, I think the war between 755 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.480 in Ukraine is reaching its natural conclusion because the lot 756 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:05.280 of the battle lines are not moving that far and 757 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.440 I'm really hoping that they will just freeze where they 758 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:15.199 are and luganskill be Russia, Dunets her Suns and Zapparosia 759 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.960 are going to be divided. There's probably gonna be a 760 00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:23.000 Ukrainian Dunyats Gonna and the Russian dunyetskna Ukrainian Zaporosia and 761 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:24.400 a Russian Zepparosia. 762 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.920 So more of like a DMZ type situation like the 763 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.119 ending quote unquote of the Korean War. 764 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.360 Yeah, maybe like a five mile thick stretch of of 765 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.920 a buffer zone. Perhaps maybe maybe not, I don't know. 766 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.280 And hopefully maybe it'll even be like jam Mun Kashmir 767 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.440 between India and Pakistan, where those used. 768 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:47.519 To be. 769 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:55.400 States of sorts that were not an autonomous I don't 770 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.119 know what the right word is, but now the border 771 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.440 between India and Pakistan goes right between both of them, 772 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:03.440 if I understand correctly. 773 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.239 Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, Pakistan is not exactly 774 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.280 happy about it. Neither is India. They don't like the 775 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.440 way the lines were drawn, but neither of them want 776 00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.639 to go to war over it. At this time. They 777 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.280 keep popping off like they want to and then like 778 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.239 taking it down a notch. It's like that, that's like 779 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.239 a pot on the on the stove that's like almost 780 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.239 boiling over, and then like it goes down on its 781 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:26.800 own and almost boils over and goes down. India and 782 00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.880 Pakistan still hate each other to this day. 783 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.039 That Yeah, definitely. And yeah, I think the populations of 784 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.199 those two regions, Gammu and Kashmir, they're heavily Muslim on 785 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.960 both sides of the border, right and the Indian side, 786 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.920 I mean the side that belongs to India. If they 787 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.280 could just have a referendum on it, they'd vote to 788 00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.400 join Pakistan, but India won't allow it. That's my understanding. 789 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.920 I've I've heard a very I've heard a very pro 790 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.880 Pakistan slant from one of my old co workers, But 791 00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:02.880 I also have another a friend of my wife, my 792 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.320 wife went to college with them, who is on the 793 00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.320 very pro India side and really hates Pakistan. I haven't 794 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:09.960 completely gotten his take on it. 795 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.519 Yeah, And I mean I like us not having to 796 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.760 resort to China to every little thing, because I mean, 797 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.599 I've been saying that for years. China has been trying 798 00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.760 to take over the world, but not in a military 799 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:24.800 conquest side of it. They've been trying to take over 800 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:26.559 in the financial sector, and they've been trying to take 801 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.840 over in the business sector. That's why all these minerals 802 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:31.480 have to come through them, because they're the ones that 803 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.239 have set up the mining operations and all of the 804 00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.400 Western powers left shop, not just I mean pretty much 805 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.400 in every country in Africa right now. Most of the 806 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.920 mining operations that are going on, and yes, not like 807 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.960 the blood diamond, not like the full on slavery that's 808 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.400 going on in Africa right now, but a lot of 809 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:49.920 the things that used to be owned by Western mining 810 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:55.480 companies are now owned by Chinese mining companies. So whenever 811 00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.119 we see that there might be a deal struck that 812 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.320 can help get some of that off of China to 813 00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.480 where we don't have to go to them, I'm on board. 814 00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.400 And I know I got my biases on that, but 815 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.159 I like it thus far. Let's see, let's check this 816 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:16.480 chat here. Zombie said, rare earth is where all the 817 00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.360 money is, but with the huge green push, a lot 818 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.320 of places are wrapped up in red tape. A lot 819 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.519 of these are our finite also. Yeah, no, I fully 820 00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.280 agree with that. And that's the thing. China does not 821 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.360 give a fuck about the earth or any kind of 822 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.199 green deals whatsoever, which is why they do what they 823 00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.320 do and why they are the go to person country whatever. 824 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:40.559 For all the rare earth minerals, Ukraine has twenty critical 825 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.119 raw minerals one hundred percent with one hundred and eleven 826 00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:48.159 billion in coal or in iron. Yeah, and a corner 827 00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:51.599 of the BBC article, we just read. Most of that coal, 828 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.960 which is where the iron ore comes from in that 829 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.960 regard is currently under Russian control, which I think Russia 830 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.800 is happy with. You know, they're to make their money 831 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.280 off the deal. Hold On, Zombie sent a link. Let's 832 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.840 see what this one's about the Moscow Times. Oh well, 833 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.480 we simply must read about this one here. Hold on, 834 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:14.440 share the screen. Here we go. Let's read about it 835 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:18.760 in the Moscow Times. Rare Earth's for aid Ukraine's minerals 836 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:23.840 threatened by war. US President Donald Trump has signaled he 837 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:26.800 could trade aid to Kiev in its fight against Russia's 838 00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:30.639 invasion for access to Ukraine's rare earth's medals key elements 839 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.519 used in electronics. How here are the facts about Ukraine's 840 00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.920 overall mining reserves, some of them in regions controlled by Moscow, 841 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.360 and the strategic and commercial stakes for the United States. 842 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.280 Trump said on Monday he wanted to negotiate an agreement 843 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:48.320 with Kiev guaranteeing supplies of specific category of rare earth medals. 844 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.400 The US Geological Survey indicated in a report that the 845 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.400 United States depends on imports for some critical minerals, while 846 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.679 China is leading excuse me is the leading producer of 847 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:03.159 such minerals, including rare earths. Ukraine has said it has 848 00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:07.480 strategic rare earth metals such as beryllium in six locations, 849 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.559 but it does not have large reserves of these. The 850 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.559 EU Commission to described the country as quote a potential 851 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:19.639 source of over twenty critical raw minerals fifteen trillion dollars 852 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.800 in minerals. Forbes Ukraine in April of twenty twenty three 853 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.280 estimated that Ukraine's mineral resources amounted to one hundred and 854 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:32.559 eleven billion tons worth fourteen point eight trillion dollars, mostly 855 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.880 coal and iron ore, but more than seventy percent of 856 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:40.559 these resources were in the Dunetsk and Luhansk regions partly 857 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:46.679 controlled by Russia. And Tony helped me out on that word. 858 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.679 Oh, I got a zoom in. No, I can't see 859 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:50.280 it anymore. 860 00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.960 Dni pro dinimber. 861 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.599 Petrufsk probably sorry, I can't even see. 862 00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:00.119 It, dinya protrufsk ye bro. 863 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:01.840 The first D is silent. 864 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.679 Of course, It's like Django, where Moscow's forces are approaching. 865 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.679 The Washington Post in August of twenty twenty two had 866 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:14.239 estimated the value of Ukraine's mineral reserves as high as 867 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.679 twenty six trillion dollars, nearly half of that in areas 868 00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:22.679 under Russian control. Interesting. I wonder if that's why Russia 869 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:26.639 was so keen to get those locations thirty eight billion 870 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.559 dollars in lithium. Demand for lithium is booming. It is 871 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.599 essential in making batteries for electric vehicles in the green 872 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:37.920 energy transition. Yeah Forbes Ukraine wrote that in twenty twenty three, 873 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.519 Ukraine has thirty three million tons of lithium or worth 874 00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:48.440 thirty eight billion dollars. Russia is advancing near the large. 875 00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.559 Shit ching kievski. 876 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.440 Yep lithium deposit in Donetsk and has captured another deposit 877 00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:04.159 at Kruta Baka Balka in Zaparizia region. Big titanium reserves 878 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.840 Ukraine is said in twenty twenty two investment presentation that 879 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.519 it is one of the top ten countries in the 880 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.440 world for proven reserves of titanium, according to seven percent 881 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.800 of the global production. As of twenty twenty three, The 882 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.400 United States imported more than ninety five percent of its titanium. 883 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.960 According to the US Geological Survey titanium is used in 884 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.199 aerospace and electronics nineteen million tons of graphite. We talked 885 00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.719 about that earlier. Iron ore. In twenty twenty two, Ukraine 886 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.719 ranked tenth in the world's in terms of its share 887 00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.760 of iron production according to World Mining Data. Prior to 888 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.559 Russia's full scale invasion twenty twenty two, Ukraine was the 889 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.280 fifth biggest iron ore exporter in the world at six 890 00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.920 point eight billion dollars in twenty twenty one. I mean, 891 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.199 that's not a little chunk of change by any stretch 892 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:56.719 of the imagination. Uranium and more. Ukraine also has substantial 893 00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:02.119 reserves of other sought after elements, including uranium, manganese, mercury, 894 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:07.199 and gallium metal used in electronics. So there we have it. 895 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:16.039 They absolutely have untapped, very lucrative mining reserves, and that, 896 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.360 in my opinion, is probably one of the main reasons 897 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:24.159 why this whole special military operation took place in the 898 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.679 first to go. I mean, I'm not saying it's one 899 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:31.639 hundred percent of why. It was absolutely because Ukraine kept 900 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.000 trying to join NATO. It is because a lot of 901 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.280 Russia bought, you know, their food from the farmland that 902 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.000 Ukraine at the time owned these days, it is going 903 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.039 to be owned by America whatever. But I mean to 904 00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.400 say that these moves weren't made strategically to take over 905 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.360 the mines as well. I could see it. I absolutely see. 906 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.320 It's a resource grab, the same as any other war. 907 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.400 It's about land and resources, same book, different chapter, honestly. 908 00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:00.760 But yeah, so we shall see if T is able 909 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.639 to make this deal happen and bring a I'm not 910 00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:07.039 going to say a swift into this war because I 911 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.440 really don't see it being a clean cut ending of 912 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.400 any of this at all. But if we were to 913 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.199 get a little bit of money off the top for 914 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.199 these minerals and we no longer had to go to 915 00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:23.079 Asia to get him, I see that as a win win, honestly. 916 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:25.440 I mean, what are your thoughts on this? 917 00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:30.000 Yeah, I fully agree that it must have been an 918 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.760 asset that was on the table and brought into the 919 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.679 calculation on both sides as to whether the war would 920 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.519 be worth it. But it's probably maybe ten or twenty 921 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.320 percent of the reason, and the other eighty percent has 922 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:47.960 to do with NATO and the public opinion on the ground. 923 00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:51.880 So yeah, all these things factored or should have factored 924 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.280 into the reasons for the war on both sides, if 925 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.079 both sides were at least somewhat competent and rational about it. 926 00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:04.960 Agreed. Now, as far as the competency and rationale of 927 00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:09.800 high ranking officials of different governments and things and stuff, 928 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:13.440 let's go ahead and go into the next conversation here. 929 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:18.679 Over one hundred national intelligence officers fired over sexually explicit 930 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.239 chat rooms. Yeah, I didn't see this one coming on 931 00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.639 the BINGO card for this week, but apparently Tulsey Gabberd 932 00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:28.159 has found some things out about some of her agents, 933 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.360 and you know what, let's just let it play. 934 00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:35.360 More than one hundred intelligence officers are now being fired 935 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:41.719 for allegedly participating in sexually explicit conversations in National security 936 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.760 agency chat rooms. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabberg made 937 00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:52.320 the announcement yesterday, calling this a violation of trust. Intelligence 938 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:56.000 agencies were told to identify employees who participated in the 939 00:53:56.079 --> 00:54:02.119 chatroom conversations and fired their employment by Friday. Those officers 940 00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.280 will also have their security clearances revoked. The NSA says 941 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:10.480 misuse of those platforms won't be tolerated and that investigations 942 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:11.119 are on go. 943 00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:23.400 More than one Okay, so you know, I so to 944 00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:26.440 say that you have like a chat with your coworkers 945 00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.800 and some offensive memes might get shared from time to 946 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:34.159 time or something like that. Okay, all right, I get it. 947 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:39.119 These are employees of the NSA, right, These are the 948 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:43.840 people that have the Patriot Act under their jurisdiction, and 949 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.599 they're spying on everybody. I am not happy to hear 950 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.800 what they're talking about, you know, as far as that goes, 951 00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:52.960 because I mean, okay, is it possible that they're just 952 00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.039 talking about the hot chip from the office and that's 953 00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:58.519 that's what's in the group chat or something like that. 954 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.679 It's possible. But because it's the NSA in particular, I 955 00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:08.239 can only see this going in the darkest of internet corners, honestly, 956 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.679 and over a hundred of them are being fired over this. 957 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.760 That's kind of major. Now. I don't know if this 958 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.199 is all from one office or if this is a 959 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:22.599 collective thing or whatever the case is. But man of 960 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.239 all the people to make the call on this, y'all 961 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:30.400 got Tulsi Gabbard. Y'all got Lieutenant Colonel Gabbard up in 962 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.719 this bitch who's basically saying, oh, really, this is the 963 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:39.480 level of professionalism that y'all are bringing to my organization. Yeah, 964 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:41.280 we're just gonna go ahead and nix that right off 965 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:45.599 the rip. That was a wild one. I mean, y'all 966 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:50.039 chime in on this one for sure. Hold On, let's 967 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:51.559 do with your guy in the chatt here. Hold on. 968 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.119 I think it just goes beyond just Jackie the bathroom. 969 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.440 Uh yeah, Alex, I hope this goes beyond that. If 970 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.800 this is just a bunch of office guys, they're sharing porn, 971 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.280 like just porn links and that's what it is. I 972 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.559 feel like that wouldn't go that far. But at the 973 00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:13.280 same time, they're using official chat groups to do that. 974 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:15.239 I mean, I don't know. I don't know if these 975 00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.440 are there's all a bunch of office dickheads that have 976 00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:21.480 like a giant group me put together, and that's what 977 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:23.360 they're sharing. It owner if this is like a giant 978 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.159 Snapchat group of all these people. But again, if this 979 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:31.840 was if this was USAID, if this is the Department 980 00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:34.800 of USAID where something like this was discovered, I feel 981 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.159 like it would. Yeah, it needs to be handled, of course, 982 00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.360 but it's not. It's not the same. It doesn't carry 983 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.440 the same weight as the NSSA, that's just me, you know, 984 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.480 I don't know, I don't know. Let's see here, they 985 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.079 they set up orgies and trains. Wait, Raven, or is 986 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.920 that just you coming out and guestimating that or are 987 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:58.679 you actually finding something saying that that's what they were doing, 988 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.760 because man, that's a bit of a claim. What was 989 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.440 that one? Oh wait? What was that cop? Y'all? Remember 990 00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.599 that lady cop that, come to find out, was hooking 991 00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:11.000 up with half of her department And the only reason 992 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:12.920 that they got caught was because the chief tried to 993 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.679 get in there and get a piece of it, and 994 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.400 she told him no. So basically he blew the lid 995 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:19.400 off of all of it. She was telling them all 996 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.119 that her and her husband were swingers. In reality, he 997 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:25.079 knew nothing about it, and like had these dudes over 998 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.519 at his house for like barbecues and stuff. In reality, 999 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.360 like eight of them were taking turns on his wife 1000 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.639 on the clock and he knew nothing about it. 1001 00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:37.199 Oh man, you remember everyone knows her face now. It 1002 00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:38.519 became quite a meme. 1003 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.679 Yeah, yeah it did. I mean it wasn't like she 1004 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.239 was a ten by any means either. I Mean, I'll 1005 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.679 give it a very generous six point five on that, 1006 00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:53.320 but apparently, you know, workplace Shenanigans was worth it to 1007 00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.480 risk it for the biscuit, I guess, But Raven says 1008 00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:58.960 she was a three. Look, I'm being very generous with 1009 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.360 that six point five, Okay, Like she wasn't like she 1010 00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.400 wasn't a donut eating cop that was like two hundred 1011 00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:09.599 pounds overweight by any means. But she was also like 1012 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:11.119 I think she had only been in the force for 1013 00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:13.039 like two years, and at that point it was just 1014 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.599 all you could eat buffet of dick for her, I suppose, 1015 00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.159 So she just went in with it and there her 1016 00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.039 husband is just holding the bag, trying to trying to 1017 00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.000 be a good old dude here and finding out that 1018 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.639 she's just getting railed out by half the department. And 1019 00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:29.039 I don't know. If that's what the NSA is doing, 1020 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:32.280 then we have way more problems than just some inappropriate 1021 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.000 chats being had. But yeah, as we're talking about cutting 1022 00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.360 out the wasteful government spending and sending out these vast 1023 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.880 emails out to see if people are even clocking or not, 1024 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:46.360 now we're losing NSA agents because of their misconduct, which 1025 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:50.320 for the record, we need less NSA agents. I think 1026 00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.119 we can all get on board with that one as 1027 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.280 a matter of fact, so I'm not mad at it. 1028 00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.599 I think it's hilarious that this is what they got 1029 00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.480 fired for. But at least we are cutting the fat. 1030 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.960 We'll take it as a win as far as that's concerned. 1031 00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.239 I was being nice with that three even you ask 1032 00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.679 why you got to hate on their spicy group chat. 1033 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.880 You know, I'm not hating on the spicy group chat. 1034 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.079 I'm just saying, if you're gonna do a spicy group chat, 1035 00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:22.719 perhaps perhaps you don't do it on a official government 1036 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:26.639 forum or an official government chat. And also with that 1037 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.920 being said, this is the NSA, Like, this is the 1038 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:34.079 agency that gets paid to spy on the people. Shocker 1039 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.519 that their boss was spying on them. I find that 1040 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:39.719 to be the big with that Spider Man meme where 1041 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.159 they're all pointing at each other, this is that, and 1042 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.760 now a hundred of them just lost their jobs over it. 1043 00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.880 I think this is great. You know, again, I didn't 1044 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.199 see that one coming. As I was looking through the 1045 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.880 news feed of random things to bring up on this episode. 1046 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:54.320 That was a fun one to discover. 1047 00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:57.840 So you know, I got a few more thoughts about it. 1048 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.280 If you've ever worked anywhere that makes you do sexual 1049 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.000 harassment training, there's a pretty low bar in terms of, oh, 1050 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:08.719 this is offensive, this is against company policy, And if 1051 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:10.280 they want to throw the book at you, they can 1052 01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.960 easily do that with memes and stuff like this. I imagine. 1053 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.840 Another thing is I'm wondering what ed Edward Snowden's thinking 1054 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.400 about this, if he has an opinion. But he also 1055 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.840 talked about how he had co workers looking up their 1056 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:29.039 girlfriends whereabouts and spying on their girlfriends and spying on 1057 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.960 their family and stuff like that. So absolutely, yeah, that's 1058 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.760 another reason we don't really need too many of these people. 1059 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.800 And the third thing is I think that what tempts guys, 1060 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.880 especially but maybe some women to it to share this 1061 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:48.599 explicit stuff, is that it it feels like it creates 1062 01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:52.840 more trust between them. It kind of like you know, 1063 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.400 guys swearing at each other at work and stuff like that. 1064 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.000 It turns it into it deliberately turns it into into 1065 01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:03.679 a less professional environment. But also you know, like you're 1066 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:06.920 really bros with these people, and sometimes they want to 1067 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.320 cultivate more of a relationship like that, but it can 1068 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:11.639 really blow up in your face. 1069 01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:16.760 Uncohesion. Yeah, I get that. I mean there is a 1070 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:19.760 time and place for that. I agree, But again, like 1071 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.360 you got to cover your tracks like you're working for 1072 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:23.119 the NSA. 1073 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:26.199 Yeah, you should only be doing that in person with 1074 01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:26.760 each other. 1075 01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:29.039 Or yeah, I mean you do that at the bar 1076 01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:31.679 over a couple of bruskis with your co workers and 1077 01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:34.239 you talk some shit that you know, there's ways about that. 1078 01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:37.760 But man, wait, okay, hold on, hold on, let's read here. 1079 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.239 Zombie just shared something in the chat here. Gabbart announced 1080 01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:44.400 the firings in a Tuesday night appearance on Fox News, 1081 01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.400 but did not say what the employees discussed in what 1082 01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:54.639 appeared to be private employees support groups or private employee 1083 01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:57.800 support groups. That sounds a little more official than a 1084 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.840 group snapchat. I could be wrong, or why it continued, 1085 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.760 or why it constituted grounds for dismissal. She said the 1086 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:09.639 employees were using the chat rooms inappropriately to talk about 1087 01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:15.639 really really horrific behavior. See now it goes a little 1088 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:17.719 less funny because at first, I was thinking, like, bro, 1089 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:23.159 because she's Tulsa Gabbard's not unattractive to most people. I 1090 01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.280 was thinking that maybe she saw a group chat of 1091 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.039 dudes talking about her. So she was like, hmm, yeah, 1092 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.199 I'm not standing for that. They're all fired if it's 1093 01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:34.079 the NSA and these are the people that find the 1094 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:38.000 pedophilic rings and things like that, and she is describing 1095 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.280 it as really really horrific behavior. Now it's got me 1096 01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:46.199 a little more concerned about things. It says there were 1097 01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:49.920 over one hundred people from across the intelligence community that 1098 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:54.559 contributed to and participated in this what is really just 1099 01:02:54.960 --> 01:03:00.360 an egregious violation of trust, basic rules and standards around professionalism. 1100 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:03.559 Gabert said, I put out a directive today that they 1101 01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:08.840 all will be terminated and their security clearances will be revoked. Apparently, 1102 01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:10.960 it goes on to say that it was a wide 1103 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:17.960 ranging discussions of sex, kink, polyamory, and castration. Okay, Now 1104 01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:23.599 again context matters, So like was it talking about like 1105 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:26.719 the castration of Barack Obama or something? You know what 1106 01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.320 I mean, Like, okay, that'd be funny, or castrating pedophiles? 1107 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.800 All right, I'm good with it. If it wasn't that, 1108 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:38.559 and it was more disgusting, then you see what I'm saying. 1109 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:43.239 It's like it's it's it's gonna get messy, it's gonna 1110 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:49.199 get messy, obscene, pornographic, and sexually explicit chat rooms by Friday. 1111 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:53.920 According to D and I spokesperson Alexa Henning, one popular 1112 01:03:54.400 --> 01:04:00.760 chat topic was gender affirming surgery. Was it roof reported 1113 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:08.079 using outdated terminology? Okay, I feel like I feel like 1114 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.960 the outdated terminology might have been the British term for 1115 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.119 a cigarette. I could be wrong. I could be wrong, 1116 01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:16.800 but I just have a feeling that they were talking 1117 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.000 about what used to be Internet words that were set 1118 01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:22.280 on Xbox Live chats when we were in middle school. 1119 01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.920 I could be wrong. Yes, yes, Scott, Alex, Yes that 1120 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.559 was the word I was referring to, but apparently reads hard. 1121 01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.400 We reclaimed you could say that one again. They tried 1122 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:34.480 banning that word and we got that one back. But 1123 01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:40.400 apparently that particular F word is seen as like the 1124 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:45.559 cardinal sin of things. And yeah, people are retarded. 1125 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.880 Anyway, you guys, all the paths I. 1126 01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:52.320 Would I would like to think that I have a 1127 01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:56.639 pass on that, but yeah, you have a pass on that, Alex. 1128 01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:59.360 I'm pretty sure there's not a single gender affirming term, 1129 01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.920 hate for or not that you couldn't say. You are 1130 01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:05.039 a resident trans correspondent, so I you know, what I mean, 1131 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.639 You're like, you're like the resonant black guy that you 1132 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.760 used to say the N word that you can't say, 1133 01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.199 so you just point out him and he knows to 1134 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.599 say it. You're like that for the chat right now 1135 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:20.480 here we go. It says, uh, chat logs with purported 1136 01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:24.880 conversations among employees in which they detailed their sex lives 1137 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:30.559 after transitioning, as well as hair removal, estrogen injections, and 1138 01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.840 the experience of sexual pleasure post castration. 1139 01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:46.760 All right, uh hmm, yeah. 1140 01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.679 I wasn't really ready for that one. I don't know 1141 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:55.119 how a person who was born a biological male, right, 1142 01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.599 and I don't know. I'm not speaking on behalf of 1143 01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:01.559 people that have gone through the surgery and postop trainees 1144 01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:05.239 and things. I don't know how that goes down as 1145 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:08.679 far as the feeling of sexual gratification goes for them. 1146 01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.679 And I'm not going to pretend to speak on their behalf, 1147 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:21.360 but post castration and the experience of sexual pleasure, you know, 1148 01:06:23.320 --> 01:06:25.960 And these were NSA agents that were talking about this. 1149 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:32.480 That's wait, the NSA agents were the post ops. Oh, 1150 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:36.599 now that's another level to this. Okay, quote, we're brazen 1151 01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:40.599 in doing this because when was the last time anyone 1152 01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:44.480 was really held accountable. Certainly not over the last four years. 1153 01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.800 Certainly not over the last ten, maybe twenty years when 1154 01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.239 we look at some of the biggest violations of the 1155 01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:56.920 American people's trust in the intelligence community. Okay, well, that 1156 01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.480 took a whole extra turn that I really wasn't expecting. 1157 01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:01.840 I thought, this is a bunch of dudes being bros 1158 01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:06.599 and being a little extra in a chat room. That wow, wow, 1159 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:12.039 and now we're here. Okay, anybody want to chime in 1160 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.679 on this one this? Yeh, thanks Raven, Yeah, you're welcome. 1161 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:17.679 You ask, all right if anybody would like to chie 1162 01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:20.679 him in here that I don't exactly know what to do. 1163 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.559 I feel like my brain just hit a weird reboot, 1164 01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:32.199 you know. Yep, Okay, about what I expected. Okay, moving 1165 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:37.880 on to the next topic. Holy shit, cool. Yeah. You know, 1166 01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:42.119 you get a game plan together, you make some ideas, 1167 01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.480 and then next thing you know, you're down a whole 1168 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.760 other winding road you didn't intend to go down. I 1169 01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:51.360 stand by my statement. I'm happy that the NSA is 1170 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.079 losing employees. I think we need to go ahead and 1171 01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:57.360 just chop that off by ninety percent. More than likely. 1172 01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.880 I'm not a big fan of the government spying on 1173 01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:01.599 its own people. I feel like we need to be 1174 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:08.119 spying on other countries. But ye know, yeah, cool, yeah, 1175 01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:11.079 you know. The more I ponder what I just read, 1176 01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:14.599 the worse it gets. Honestly I did yep. Okay, So 1177 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:17.600 let's move on here, breaking down the Supreme Court's reverse 1178 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:22.399 discrimination case. I don't exactly have an opinion on this one. 1179 01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.560 I found it and thought that it was interesting, but 1180 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.840 it sounds more like the pendulum swinging the opposite direction 1181 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.000 of where it has gone the last four years. But 1182 01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:33.800 let me know what y'all think about this. Let's check 1183 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:34.039 it out. 1184 01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:37.079 We begin this evening at the Supreme Court, where the 1185 01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:41.479 nine justices heard oral arguments in the case of Marlene Ames. 1186 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:44.279 Ames was an employee at the Ohio Department of Youth 1187 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:47.319 Services who applied for promotion. The role was given to 1188 01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:50.920 another employee, a gay woman. Ames was then demoted her 1189 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.640 position filled by a gay man. Ames, who is straight, 1190 01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:57.399 claims her sexual orientation was an issue in each decision. 1191 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.680 That's the story her lawyers presented today and joining us 1192 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.840 now is Jessica Elevensin CBS News legal and analysts and 1193 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:07.760 Loyal and law school professor Jessica what's that issue with 1194 01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:08.359 this case? 1195 01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.199 So what's an issue really is what standard are we 1196 01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:16.760 going to use under a federal statue, Title seven when 1197 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.920 it comes to workplace discrimination claims? And specifically, are we 1198 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.960 going to use a different standard for people who are 1199 01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:27.079 members of the majority, whether that be in this case, 1200 01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.920 people who are straight or people who are white. What 1201 01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.840 standard will we use in order to prove that there 1202 01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:36.960 is in fact workplace discrimination? 1203 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:39.600 And in oral arguments there was this. I think it 1204 01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:41.880 was Gorst who said there was radical agreement. Was that 1205 01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:43.640 a little bit or in the whole thing? And if so, 1206 01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:44.880 what were they agreeing about. 1207 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.279 I think there was radical agreement that the idea that 1208 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:52.880 the standard would be different, meaning harder for people in 1209 01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:57.720 the majority to prove a workplace discrimination claim was not proper. 1210 01:09:57.760 --> 01:09:59.720 And what do we mean by not proper? That it 1211 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.600 was no, not a proper reading of Title seven of 1212 01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:03.720 that statute. 1213 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:04.800 So I think there was. 1214 01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:08.000 Quote radical agreement, and we don't talk about this very 1215 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:11.119 often when the court agrees, but based on the idea 1216 01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:14.720 that you can't have different standards for different people. If 1217 01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:19.039 there is discrimination, then there should be the same burden 1218 01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:22.479 that everybody faces in trying to prove those claims. 1219 01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.199 And if they find for aims, then she will have 1220 01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:26.399 to go back and win in court. Let me ask 1221 01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.079 you now about Marburi versus Madison, which is the case 1222 01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.239 today was a part of judicial review. Marbori versus Madison, 1223 01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.880 the anniversary of which is this week. Why is that 1224 01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:37.760 such an important case in all of these cases in 1225 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:39.840 this system we talk about so often. 1226 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.399 Well, it's so important because it says, federal judges, you 1227 01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:47.920 have a role to play in our three branch system. 1228 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.319 And here's what it is. As you've said, it's judicial review. 1229 01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.239 So it's not just what the constitution means. But it's 1230 01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:58.119 looking at statutes. We've been talking about Title seven today. 1231 01:10:58.399 --> 01:11:02.319 It's looking at popularly enacted statutes where the executive and 1232 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.680 the political and excuse me, the legislative agree, and it's 1233 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.479 judges saying, but we have the last say. We can 1234 01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:11.079 tell you whether or not that statue is proper, and 1235 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:13.640 we can help interpret it. It's a huge part of 1236 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.720 our system. 1237 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:22.000 Okay. So, and I don't know the nuances to this case, right, 1238 01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:25.880 I don't know if she put in for this promotion 1239 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:30.119 and didn't get it because the person, regardless of sexual 1240 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.199 orientation or anything else, because they were better suited for 1241 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.479 that position. I don't know, okay, and I can even 1242 01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:40.960 accept that. Then she got removed from the position she 1243 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.039 was in and the person that took that position happened 1244 01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:47.760 to be a gay man. Again, I don't know the 1245 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:51.640 nuances if there was, like she already okay, let's look 1246 01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:54.760 at it from both sides here, okay, completely open here. 1247 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:58.159 If she put in for this job already, she sucked 1248 01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.560 at the job she was currently operating out and I 1249 01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:04.079 don't know, don't know, but if she currently was not 1250 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:07.680 up to par in the position she hailed, that may 1251 01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:09.880 be a reason why she didn't get that promotion. And 1252 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:13.359 maybe they were already looking to remove her in favor 1253 01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.319 of somebody more qualified or better suited for the job. 1254 01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:21.119 I don't know. However, I could see why she would 1255 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:24.560 think that this was a play against her right, like 1256 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:30.680 they were making moves against cisgendered white women, I suppose, 1257 01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:36.680 in favor of people that aligned more with the LGBTQ 1258 01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:43.119 plus element OPABC community. I don't know, but like I said, 1259 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:44.840 I feel like this is kind of more of like 1260 01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:47.840 the pendulum swinging back the opposite direction from what we 1261 01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:52.119 saw from the past. I kind of want to say 1262 01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:55.199 more like twelve years. It wasn't just the last four. 1263 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.760 It's not like Biden really cared as far as the 1264 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.039 unity of these things were concerned. Trump came in and 1265 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.600 he was very clear, like he doesn't care who you 1266 01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.640 want to bang or who you want to marry, like 1267 01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:13.119 that is beyond something. He gives a fuck about. Obama. 1268 01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:16.159 He was there and he was very pro all of 1269 01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:18.039 these things, but it was Congress that had to pass 1270 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:21.399 the laws and make everything legal and all that. So, 1271 01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:25.920 I mean, are we gonna start seeing more of this? Y'all? 1272 01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.399 Think if a person loses their job to somebody that 1273 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:32.359 identifies with that community, are they immediately going to say 1274 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:40.760 that they're being they're being ostracized because they're straight. I 1275 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:45.159 don't know. I could see it. I could see that 1276 01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:47.000 becoming more of a thing. But at the same time, 1277 01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:49.520 it's gone all the way to Supreme Court, so I 1278 01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.119 feel like how they rule on this will also lead 1279 01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:55.239 to a lot of legal precedence to all of what 1280 01:13:55.399 --> 01:14:02.119 happens next. And you, no, h that's gonna be interesting. 1281 01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:04.439 It's gonna be very interesting to see how this case 1282 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:07.800 plays out, because they are gonna absolutely take lead from 1283 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:09.760 this to go. I mean, this is at the federal level, 1284 01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:11.880 and I get that, but the states are gonna take 1285 01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.840 their lead from this, and they're gonna start making it 1286 01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:18.439 to where if certain people lose their jobs. And that's 1287 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:21.159 the other thing too, how much of it's gonna be bullshit? Right? 1288 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:23.520 How much of it's gonna be somebody that showed up 1289 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:26.560 to work drunk a bunch of times, they lose their job, 1290 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.000 the person that takes it over their position happens to 1291 01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.000 be gay, and then they're gonna try to sue the 1292 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.479 company for some sort of like prejudice against them, and 1293 01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:38.800 how many of that will be justified as well. It's 1294 01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:44.079 gonna be a very interesting thing to see how it 1295 01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:49.319 plays out. Let's see here. Raven Lee says there's too 1296 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:52.680 much context missing to understand what is happening with this case. 1297 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:56.439 There was kickbacks for a lot of companies that checked 1298 01:14:56.439 --> 01:15:00.800 boxes like gay, liberal, black, Mexican, disabled, et cetera. Right agreed, 1299 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.279 it's a double edged sword because there is discrimination for 1300 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:08.239 straight or gay people. That's I guess that also depends 1301 01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:11.399 on the type of industry you're in. Right, Like, I mean, 1302 01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:14.359 I know, we always make jokes about Hollywood, but at 1303 01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:17.840 the same time, to say that you are a double 1304 01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:21.479 or triple minority, you're probably gonna get accepted in Hollywood 1305 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.000 a lot sooner than a sis gendered straight white male. 1306 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.600 I feel like that's a pretty easy thing to guess. 1307 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:31.600 But at the same time, if you're trying to go 1308 01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:36.840 to like an engineering firm, well, no, that's not necessarily true. 1309 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.279 I know tons of gay engineers that are killing it 1310 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:42.600 at their job right now. I guess. I guess it 1311 01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.000 just really depends on the industry and the job feel 1312 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.399 that you choose to go into. If you would experience 1313 01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.039 some sort of discrimination based off of that type of thing, 1314 01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:52.800 I could absolutely see that being the case, And then 1315 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:54.920 I could also see that being a wash as well. 1316 01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.319 You know, I know it depends there should be a 1317 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:02.279 serious test or something for jobs that is blind reviews 1318 01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:07.960 based solely on how a person performs. I agree, But 1319 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.920 then again, it also depends on the job and on 1320 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:12.479 the field, like Okay, for instance, and I know I'm 1321 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.079 drawing on my own experiences for this one, but bear 1322 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:18.880 with me. I went on a ton of interviews to 1323 01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.279 get jobs in different oil refineries and chemical plants at 1324 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.159 one point in time, and I missed out on a 1325 01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:29.840 lot of those jobs. Usually there was nepotism involved, which 1326 01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:32.520 that is the way of the world. If you're not networking, 1327 01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.960 you're not working. And if you're really qualified for that job, 1328 01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:38.760 but some supervisor has a nephew that also needs a 1329 01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:41.640 job that happened to be on interviewing the same day 1330 01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.359 as you. Hey to break it to you're probably a 1331 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.840 getting the job that guy is and okay, fine, that's 1332 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.319 how the world works. But there there was a lot 1333 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:52.600 of also, like they were trying to see if the 1334 01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.319 person was the right fit for the crew. Take away 1335 01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:03.039 religious dogma and racial bio and gender preferences and all 1336 01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:07.520 of that just for two seconds. Certain places operate at 1337 01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:10.399 a more laid back and slow scale, and they don't 1338 01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:13.239 want somebody who's super high strung in there because that's 1339 01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:15.199 not the way that this place flows. They want to 1340 01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:17.199 make sure you're going to be a good team member 1341 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:20.039 for the team that they have built. Flip that script. 1342 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:22.159 There are certain places that are very high pace and 1343 01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:24.520 they need somebody that's go go, go, go go, And 1344 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.439 if you're more of a laid back person, that's more like, look, 1345 01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:29.800 we'll have a little meeting about it. We'll do this, 1346 01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:31.720 and then we'll do that. They don't want you and 1347 01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:33.680 the crew either, because you're not going to be a 1348 01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.279 good fit for the team they've built. So I could 1349 01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:39.960 see that kind of going that direction as well. That 1350 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:46.159 being said, yeah, like you said, Raven, it is a 1351 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.279 double edged sword on that one. And while there should 1352 01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:57.000 be meritocracy in all facets of professional workplaces, it's a 1353 01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:01.479 slippery slope because at what point does that does professionalism 1354 01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.159 and a good fit. You're trying to find that perfect fit, right, 1355 01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.439 the perfect gel to go across all of it. Sometimes 1356 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.920 it's not always the case, but especially in cases like 1357 01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:15.760 this though, right like this person lost their job and 1358 01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.439 I don't know if they were fired, they were demoted. 1359 01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:23.600 They still maintain their employment. So that's the thing. I 1360 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.560 it'll be a very interesting turn of events to see 1361 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:31.439 how this case plays out. Absolutely Royce chimed in here 1362 01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:34.159 and said, but they didn't care before this point because 1363 01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:40.520 discrimination only goes one way. Yeah, yeah, discrimination has only 1364 01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.960 gone one way up until now, and with the Supreme 1365 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:49.600 Court currently stacked more on the conservative side of things, 1366 01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:52.640 like I said, it'll be very interesting to see how 1367 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:56.359 this one plays out. I don't know. It's one of 1368 01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.239 those things. So just wanted to bring that up and 1369 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:01.319 wanted to air it out here and see what everybody 1370 01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.399 thought about it. I'm going to go ahead and share 1371 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:05.920 the screen woman again. I think I had one more 1372 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.439 thing I wanted to share, didn't I? No, I did not. 1373 01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:09.720 No. 1374 01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:13.680 We already talked about the minerals. Okay, fair enough, all right, 1375 01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:15.720 cool Tony, I know you had something that you wanted 1376 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:18.199 to discuss on this episode. 1377 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:21.760 Well, this may even relate to the topic of discrimination 1378 01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:22.920 a little bit. 1379 01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:23.760 Okay. 1380 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:28.600 I think that I am going to discriminate against female 1381 01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:33.479 Indian dentists from now on for my sake. And now, 1382 01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:35.159 if I tell you the whole story this is going 1383 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:35.680 to take. 1384 01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:41.279 I did. That's a very specific niche market that you're 1385 01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:42.880 discriminating against your brother. 1386 01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:44.800 But all right, and I wish I could be more 1387 01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:46.840 scientific about it. I don't know if it's the fact 1388 01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:49.960 they're female or the fact they're Indian that causes them 1389 01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:54.039 to behave like this one hundred percent of the time 1390 01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:57.560 in my limited experience, But let me let me tell 1391 01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:00.359 you a bit of a story back in back in 1392 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.239 twenty fourteen. I hadn't been to the dentist in a 1393 01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:06.439 long time, but I started going and it was this 1394 01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:11.359 older Germanic Armenian guy, interesting blend, and he gave me 1395 01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:15.199 six fillings between a bunch of teeth because I give 1396 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:17.560 was my it was my fault for being stupid and 1397 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:23.439 not taking care of myself. But that was all I needed. 1398 01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:27.840 And then twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, no need for 1399 01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:30.600 any more work. But in twenty seventeen, one day he 1400 01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:34.920 was out of the office and his female Indian coworker 1401 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.640 was substituting for him, and she said, oh, you have 1402 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.520 four more cavities here, here, here, and here, And I 1403 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:44.760 was kind of dubious. I thought, I don't feel like 1404 01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:47.199 I've had any pain or anything, so you know, I 1405 01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:50.520 don't want to get these fillings. And you know, they 1406 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:52.640 had the paperwork ready to go. I'm like, hey, just 1407 01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.560 sign here, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, 1408 01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.159 I don't think I need this. Next checkup, it was 1409 01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:00.920 back to the old dude, the Germanic art Median dude, 1410 01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:03.760 and he didn't even notice anything. And I said, well, hey, 1411 01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:06.359 what about here, here, here, and here, And he said, 1412 01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:09.199 there's nothing there. Don't worry about that. I could write 1413 01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:11.279 it down if you want me to. No, you don't 1414 01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:16.439 need anything anyway. Twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, or fine, twenty 1415 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:19.199 twenty and twenty one, I got a new dentist. He 1416 01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:24.359 was a male Japanese American and he also didn't notice anything. 1417 01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:26.720 And I asked him, what about here, here, here, and here, 1418 01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:29.079 and he said, oh, no, don't worry about it. Then 1419 01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.600 in twenty twenty one, I moved to Texas and a 1420 01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:39.720 former coach, very lady back guy, and again he didn't 1421 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:42.479 notice anything. And I asked, what about here, here, here, 1422 01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:44.640 and here, and he says, no, big deal, don't worry 1423 01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.640 about it. And then finally he retired at the end 1424 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.640 of twenty twenty three. And in twenty twenty four the 1425 01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:55.760 office was bought by an Indian woman and I go 1426 01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.159 in and all of a sudden, Oh, you got cavities here, here, here, 1427 01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.239 and here. We need to fill these And I said, nah, 1428 01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:03.479 I don't think so. Sorry, I'm gonna forego treatment. Six 1429 01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:05.720 months later again, hey, when are you going to get 1430 01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:08.479 these done? You need to get these done. I said no, no, no, 1431 01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:12.279 no thanks. And then yesterday I went back and it 1432 01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:15.680 was a new Indian lady. But she said, oh, no, 1433 01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:17.880 I found five of them right here. Oh, and this 1434 01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:20.279 one's really really bad. You really need to get this 1435 01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:22.720 one filled right away. And I said, ah, man, you see, 1436 01:22:23.279 --> 01:22:25.600 I want to forego treatment. They wanted me to sign 1437 01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:28.199 things right away and I just said I don't think so. 1438 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:29.159 Sorry. Sorry. 1439 01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:35.560 So this morning I went to another dentist or a 1440 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:39.600 second opinion, which I had never done before, and he was, 1441 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:42.600 I guess, fifty years old and white, and I think 1442 01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:47.199 he's Mormon. Not that you know that should make much difference. 1443 01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.479 But somehow it does, though, doesn't it. 1444 01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:53.399 I don't know, but he's He probed me and took 1445 01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.359 X rays and he said there is nothing wrong. You 1446 01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:00.760 don't need anything. And I just hate these dentists out 1447 01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:05.000 there who scam people. And no, it was a whole conversation, 1448 01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:07.840 but I thought, this is the best state the dentist 1449 01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:11.159 I've ever had, because the first time was thinking, oh, 1450 01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:13.520 you might be borderline here on this one. But no, 1451 01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.560 he's like, you don't need any of this. These people 1452 01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:21.119 scam you, and you know, race and ethnicity and the like. 1453 01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:25.439 Gender did not come up. But I've had three female 1454 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.560 Indian dentists, and all of them have been the exact 1455 01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:32.000 same experience, and I don't think I'll have another one. 1456 01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:37.840 I mean, I have, you know, similar feelings towards Vietnamese 1457 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:42.079 dentists strictly because there was one I had a cap 1458 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:45.520 that popped off that he put in, I might add, 1459 01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.479 and I'm saying Vietnamese because his name is Win, so 1460 01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:53.159 clearly he's one of the VC fucking Charlie and so 1461 01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:56.039 all right. I asked him for a gold cap for 1462 01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:59.039 multiple reasons. One of those would be because at heart 1463 01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:02.119 I am but white trash. Okay, it is what it is, 1464 01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:03.960 and I already have one. On one side, it would 1465 01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:05.720 have been a match. On the other side, I thought 1466 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:09.359 it was pimp but whatever, and uh, you boy put 1467 01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:12.079 in a porcelain cap because that's the standard these days. 1468 01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:15.520 But but but it pops off. U. This was about 1469 01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:19.520 six months later, I might add, fine, fine, wait what 1470 01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:21.920 happened here? I'm sorry, something popped up on the screen 1471 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:26.279 and okay, it hurt like a bitch. I call them 1472 01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:29.119 up and I say, hey, this just happened. I'm coming in. 1473 01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:31.239 Oh uh, we don't know if it could fit you 1474 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:35.039 in today. I'm like ma'am, I have an exposed nerve 1475 01:24:35.119 --> 01:24:37.279 and it feels like someone's shoving a red hot ice 1476 01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:40.039 pick into my jaw. Y'all are gonna see me whether 1477 01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:42.359 I'm on your little schedule or not. I don't know 1478 01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:44.840 what else it's I'm going to be at your office 1479 01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:49.079 very irate in about thirty minutes. You can prepare for that, 1480 01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:52.159 or I can make myself known when I get it 1481 01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:55.880 doesn't matter to me like no, So they gave me 1482 01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.279 the run around. Thankfully, I had a my ex wife's 1483 01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:02.199 aunt is a dental assistant. She was able to fit 1484 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:05.479 me in, like it took five minutes. It took five 1485 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:07.760 minutes to scrape off the old stuff put it back 1486 01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:11.479 on correctly this time. And that's my point. It's like, Okay, well, 1487 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:13.640 you know what, fuck that Vietnamese dentist. And I'm not 1488 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:17.520 saying that's indicative of all dentists from Vietnam, but I'm 1489 01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:20.159 definitely saying that that guy sucks dick for crack. So 1490 01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:23.000 you know, I mean, I get it all right. So 1491 01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:25.560 you're saying that there's a little bit of a stigma 1492 01:25:25.640 --> 01:25:28.119 towards at least in your experience, has been three for 1493 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:32.680 three on email Indian dentists that suck. 1494 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:38.079 Yeah, yeah, and the other dentists say, ah, man, they're not. 1495 01:25:38.680 --> 01:25:41.199 I didn't bring up ethnicity or gender at all, but 1496 01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:45.640 they just said, yeah, some dentists out there are these 1497 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:49.079 real scammers, and most people don't get a second opinion. 1498 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:51.880 But sometimes you got to be your advocate. You gotta 1499 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:54.920 do that. You got to look it up back in 1500 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.520 twenty fourteen. That's what started getting me interested in nutrition 1501 01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:03.319 and the Western Price found and how nutrition is probably 1502 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:07.439 like sixty to eighty percent of the battle in keeping 1503 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.800 your teeth healthy. Western Price was a dentist about one 1504 01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:15.279 hundred years ago who investigated how animal fats and vitamins 1505 01:26:15.319 --> 01:26:18.359 and fat soluble vitamins like D and K two are 1506 01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:22.960 so important for calcium transport. And I could go on 1507 01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:27.159 and on about that, but yeah, nutrition is pretty important 1508 01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:29.800 and you just got to be your own advocate there. 1509 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.840 You don't really see many Indian dentists now I think 1510 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:37.000 about it. You usually seems really. 1511 01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:40.159 I mean on Google maps and stuff. Yeah, there's a 1512 01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:42.319 lot of them, even in Texas, and I remember quite 1513 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.439 a few of them in California too, or at least 1514 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:47.199 in the Dallas area. 1515 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:50.600 I've only seen them as far as like doctors for sure, 1516 01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:54.359 but I mean, you know, I know dentists are technically 1517 01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:57.319 doctors too, yeah, but it's it's they're not seen as 1518 01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:02.039 doctors by you know, actual doctors. But you know, that 1519 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:06.840 being said, I've only ever seen Indian people in surgery 1520 01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:11.359 rooms or with an MD by their name. I don't 1521 01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:15.319 think I've ever actually met or seen a dentist of 1522 01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:18.000 Indian descent. I mean it's not like I just know 1523 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:20.920 all there is to know about dentistry or you know whatever. 1524 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:26.279 But that's fascinating. I mean, most of their most Indian 1525 01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:28.720 families tell their kids to be doctors and lawyers. But 1526 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.560 like if you were a dentist, I feel like that'd 1527 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.600 be like be bringing home like a C plus on 1528 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:36.399 a test. Like they're not fucking happy about it. I 1529 01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:36.800 don't know. 1530 01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:40.960 Interesting, Yeah, I don't know what. There's a lot of 1531 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.840 them that do other chips, like Sam Hyde was joking about, 1532 01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:47.840 there's so many of them at gas stations and motels 1533 01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:49.800 and stuff. And I travel a lot for my living 1534 01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.000 and it's very often Indian people. And usually I have 1535 01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:55.680 no problem with them if they're running a hotel or motel. 1536 01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:59.079 No, they're great people. You know, I think their food 1537 01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:03.600 is insane. I cannot palette the taste of most of 1538 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:06.520 their cuisine. But you know, they seem to be good 1539 01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:08.359 people just trying to make their way in this world. 1540 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:16.560 Just wow. Okay, So typically female Indian dentists in my experience. 1541 01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:19.359 As I'm getting ready to finish that sentence, I could 1542 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:22.720 just hear it sounding racist. But like, you know, I mean, 1543 01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:24.760 you're three for three on this and at that point, 1544 01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:28.840 that's that's a pattern. Mm hmm. Maybe they just don't 1545 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:29.359 like you, bro. 1546 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.800 Well well, no, my new dentist said, I've seen a 1547 01:28:34.840 --> 01:28:37.359 lot of people coming over from that old office. You're 1548 01:28:37.399 --> 01:28:40.319 not the only one. There's plenty of other people who say, man, 1549 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:42.079 I haven't had a kevity in like five years, and 1550 01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:43.720 all of a sudden they tell me I have nine. 1551 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.159 You know, there's something off about this. 1552 01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:50.560 Yeah, they're trying to make that money, bro, they're trying 1553 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:51.439 to scout people. 1554 01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:54.880 Oh yeah, those five they would have made eight hundred dollars. 1555 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:57.760 So yeah, there's a clear incentive there, and they just 1556 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:00.399 lower their threshold and maybe they even believe it that 1557 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:03.560 oh yeah you really need this. Maybe they actually believe it, 1558 01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.079 and you know, one of the easiest people to lie 1559 01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:09.359 to is yourself. But that's still no excuse. 1560 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:16.760 God, that's wild man. Well, okay, as far as the 1561 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:21.039 discrimination goes and meritocracy being what it is, yeah, that 1562 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:23.600 kind of did play in a weird type of way, 1563 01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:26.560 but it played in nonetheless. I'll be dangous. 1564 01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.279 Yeah, as a customer, as a private citizen who's not 1565 01:29:29.439 --> 01:29:32.960 filling out employment paperwork like W two's, you are allowed 1566 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:36.880 to discriminate for any reason you want and ask you 1567 01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:40.079 that's not literally what I'm doing. Yeah, I'm going to 1568 01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:42.119 be really suspicious going forward. 1569 01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:45.439 Those dentists, did they sound like they were from the 1570 01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:47.560 Old Country or did they sound like they were born 1571 01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:49.920 and raised here and had no accents? That's also kind 1572 01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:50.479 of important. 1573 01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:51.279 Okay. 1574 01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:54.319 The first one in twenty seventeen was definitely Punjabi. The 1575 01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:57.800 second one also was definitely from overseas. The third one, 1576 01:29:57.800 --> 01:30:02.079 who I just saw yesterday, had perfect American accent as 1577 01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:05.960 far as I could tell. So two out of three 1578 01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:07.159 were from the Old Country. 1579 01:30:07.800 --> 01:30:11.720 So two out of three we're first generation and the 1580 01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:15.319 second generation didn't seem to be much of a didn't 1581 01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:18.239 give you no warm and fuzzy feeling either, so damn yeah, 1582 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:22.319 to one could be a one off. Two, it might 1583 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:25.479 even be you know, just bad luck. Three is a 1584 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:29.399 pattern that's that's kind of hard to ignore. Man, Damn. 1585 01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:34.520 Okay, figure I'd share that. So yeah, everyone take care 1586 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:36.359 of your teeth and be your own advocate. 1587 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:39.840 Absolutely. And I'm still going back to get that gold 1588 01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:42.960 tooth put back in because I I think that's bad ass, 1589 01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:44.960 and worst comes to worst, I pop that bitch out 1590 01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:47.560 and sell it. So, I mean, you know, there's there's 1591 01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:50.119 multiple levels as to the reasons for things, you know, 1592 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:55.560 But uh okay, uh, I guess I didn't really have 1593 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:58.159 much else to go on on this evening. If anybody 1594 01:30:58.199 --> 01:30:59.960 else is anything that they would like to bring up, 1595 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:05.079 please air it out and let's let's chat about it. Otherwise, 1596 01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:08.319 think we might rap early on this one, Alex. I 1597 01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:10.840 hope we didn't offend you earlier talking about the things 1598 01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:15.239 and the stuff. Although you're you seem to be home 1599 01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:17.640 and not at work, so now I'm very curious. Okay, 1600 01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:23.239 what is your take on that post castration sexual pleasure. 1601 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.199 I don't I'm not asking if you're a post or 1602 01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:28.359 pre op or whatever. That's none of my business. But 1603 01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:31.760 I don't know how that goes down, and my brain 1604 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:34.359 is still a little extra fried on this, so please 1605 01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:35.119 help me out here. 1606 01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:42.880 No, he didn't look at me for that. I do 1607 01:31:43.039 --> 01:31:45.680 think too far. 1608 01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:49.560 I don't really know how it works. I didn't look 1609 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:52.920 into any of that, okay, so. 1610 01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:01.760 Just stupid. This is why you are a resident trans 1611 01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:05.920 correspondent because you, as you said in the messages, when 1612 01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:07.640 I when you first told me that that's what the 1613 01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:10.520 situation was, You're like, yeah, I'm trans, but I'm not retarded, 1614 01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.800 And I'm like, I fucking love you. You get it. 1615 01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:17.000 I'm not a fucking retard, yes. 1616 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:20.760 Indeed, okay, and I'm is it weird that now I 1617 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.560 want to read the transcripts from those chats to see 1618 01:32:23.560 --> 01:32:25.920 what the fuck they were talking about, because it's like 1619 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.640 those those tidbits are like almost too incredible to believe 1620 01:32:29.640 --> 01:32:32.000 that that's what was being discussed. But now that I 1621 01:32:32.079 --> 01:32:35.399 know that, it's like, all right, I need more clarification. 1622 01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:39.119 Now I don't even know Royce, what are your thoughts 1623 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:43.640 on this, bro, our resident Jewish correspondent, Please chime in? 1624 01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:49.239 That's I mean, as you said before, part of it 1625 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.199 is some people getting together and just trying to try 1626 01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:55.880 to talk and try to talk shop because hey, well 1627 01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:57.760 this is cool and this is cool, and just you know, 1628 01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.920 one leads to another, a leads to be, leads to see, 1629 01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:07.319 leads to really bad shit. Right, it can be very 1630 01:33:07.359 --> 01:33:10.800 easy to also get complacent. Right, So if you start 1631 01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:14.920 talking about things and there's no moderator and there's no one. 1632 01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:16.399 Well, oh well, nobody's watching it. 1633 01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:19.079 Yeah I know I'm on a government computer or I 1634 01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:22.439 know I'm being watched, but like no one said anything, 1635 01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:27.359 so it's okay, right, And especially if they're labeling it 1636 01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:31.000 as oh, well, we're just affirming this, or we're not 1637 01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:35.520 we're not slutshaming, we're not translating whatever. 1638 01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:39.039 It's kind of using it under that kind of guys. 1639 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:49.000 Also retarded and ridiculous, very very sad, But like that 1640 01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:52.560 just shows the corruption of the people who are supposed 1641 01:33:52.600 --> 01:33:53.399 to be watching us. 1642 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:56.159 So if the people who are in this. 1643 01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:01.960 Power are watching us and they're doing this, it's like 1644 01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:04.319 you're not being very good examples. 1645 01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:12.680 Yeah, I agree, I agree. Yeah, that's what a weird 1646 01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:17.720 turn for this to take in that regard. But this 1647 01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:20.560 is this is twenty twenty five, y'all. This is the 1648 01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:24.199 world that we are currently living in I guess. I 1649 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:27.720 guess to some people that whole conversation would be deemed normal. 1650 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:34.000 I you know, it'd be like that. Okay, super out 1651 01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:36.199 of left field. But Royce, while I got you here, 1652 01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:39.239 what does the word emmett mean in Hebrew? 1653 01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:41.920 Brush proof? 1654 01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:43.159 No? 1655 01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:46.520 Truth is in like lie the opposite of a lie. Truth? 1656 01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:50.840 Oh yeah, so you're so so you're talking about what 1657 01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:52.560 you're talking about? 1658 01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:54.640 What goes on the forehead of gollum? 1659 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:57.640 You knew exactly what I was talking about, yes. 1660 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.199 And by the way, so so yeah, yeah. 1661 01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:04.800 And then when you erase the olif, which is the 1662 01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:10.520 very first letter of that three letter H word, it 1663 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:14.560 becomes mate or mace, and that is the word for death. 1664 01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:20.479 Oh so true. It brings it to life, and then 1665 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:24.520 death makes it go back to being clay incorrect. 1666 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:30.079 And then there's also like, I believe a piece of 1667 01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:33.920 parchment with one of God's names on it that goes 1668 01:35:34.039 --> 01:35:34.920 inside the mouth. 1669 01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:38.039 Yeah, I've heard. I think you might have told me that, 1670 01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:40.119 or Jonathan might have told me that. I don't know, 1671 01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:44.800 but okay, interesting, and it's one of the names of God. 1672 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:49.920 What are the names of God? Goes inside the mouth? 1673 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:50.279 I don't. 1674 01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:53.439 I do not know which one that would be a 1675 01:35:53.880 --> 01:35:56.920 that would be something that an. 1676 01:35:56.359 --> 01:35:58.439 Actual Cabbalist would know. 1677 01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:03.359 Got you okay, Because they have these fun esoteric traditions. 1678 01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:05.800 I would love to have a conversation with one of 1679 01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:08.000 them one day, but I also I feel like my 1680 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:10.199 biases would get in the way of having a productive 1681 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:13.199 conversation on that. It's the same way I want to 1682 01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:16.079 have a real conversation with a true Satanist. And I 1683 01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:18.239 mean I'm not even trying to have a fight with 1684 01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:22.119 them or a debate with them, just serious questions as 1685 01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:25.359 like why, what do you expect to gain from that? 1686 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:29.439 Is it? What do you think is happening next. 1687 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:38.640 Here's the thing, Contrary to popular belief, Cobblists are not 1688 01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:41.159 these evil people who are trying to take over the world. 1689 01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:45.319 So when people say, oh, well, they're a part of 1690 01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:48.920 the cabal andkabala like no. 1691 01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:50.720 This is this is completely incorrect. 1692 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:55.520 So kabbala, which does come from the Hebrew word kabail, 1693 01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:59.439 which does mean to receive, are these are our traditions. 1694 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:04.000 These are things that are taught two masters. But it's 1695 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:11.279 only in a line of holiness, not anything else. So 1696 01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:16.439 that's kind of an annoyance on on my part whenever 1697 01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:23.560 I hear people speak very derogatorily or you know that, well, 1698 01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:26.159 these views are doing this, these you are doing that. 1699 01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:30.800 It's not not correct because when whenever you have these 1700 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:35.159 people that are in that level, they're doing everything, shame, 1701 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:39.520 shamime for the sake of heaven. So for for example, 1702 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:44.720 the Labavacher Rev who died at the nineteen ninety. 1703 01:37:46.199 --> 01:37:47.239 One, I think. 1704 01:37:47.359 --> 01:37:49.319 That's the one that people thought was the Messiah. 1705 01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:54.359 Correct, that was one of the people that that group 1706 01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:57.800 actually believed and still believes is the Messiah. 1707 01:37:58.199 --> 01:37:58.920 Believe it or honest. 1708 01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:04.479 There So there were times where he he would perform miracles. 1709 01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:09.039 His father was and his father in law was a Cobbalist, 1710 01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:10.159 and like. 1711 01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:14.560 His father's name was Alah no no, his father in 1712 01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:22.439 law was a like hold hold the fuck on here now, Okay, 1713 01:38:22.479 --> 01:38:23.760 my bad continues. 1714 01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:23.840 So sorry. 1715 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:27.880 So there are plenty of people that that study kabbala, 1716 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:31.920 that that actually study like a book called Tanya, which 1717 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:37.479 was also was written by the first Lebabareb, which kind 1718 01:38:37.479 --> 01:38:41.720 of goes into some cobalistic ideas. You have other people 1719 01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:47.199 name let's see uh one of the rabbis of of 1720 01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:49.880 Breslav there. 1721 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:54.319 You know, they have a lot of works of uh 1722 01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:58.840 that are in that are kabbala Sorry I can't speak, 1723 01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:01.960 that are that way in nature. 1724 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:06.560 But everything is going towards holiness, and to gear it 1725 01:39:07.479 --> 01:39:10.640 towards holiness and not the other and not the other 1726 01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.399 way around. Like the whole idea is to not give 1727 01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:16.760 power to the other side. Is only to do things 1728 01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:20.000 and and holiness and only to. 1729 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:23.880 Do things right, like people that actually study this stuff 1730 01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:27.600 that have from actual masters, not like these people that 1731 01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:31.199 you know, talk to Madonna or other people and here we're. 1732 01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:33.439 This little red bracelet and you're gonna be okay, Like 1733 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:35.000 these people that are. 1734 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:37.319 Just doing it for for the charms or for the 1735 01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:41.800 lulls or whatever, that that's not a true form of cabal. 1736 01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:44.479 Like they take these things and they'll either they'll take 1737 01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:47.880 it out of context or not really understand it, because 1738 01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:52.159 some of these things are so out of left field 1739 01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:58.359 unless you actually know everything in depth. There, you know, 1740 01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:01.920 you'll you'll read a story in the the Kabbalah and. 1741 01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:06.159 It will not make a lick of sense. 1742 01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:11.960 Unless you're actually able to understand, you know, what, why 1743 01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:12.760 is this word use? 1744 01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:15.560 Why is this other thing used? 1745 01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:20.640 So no, but people who actually study and who teach 1746 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:23.800 the Gabala, it's a very very select few people. 1747 01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:26.359 And these people are. 1748 01:40:26.119 --> 01:40:31.079 Are not doing it for the sake of of ruling 1749 01:40:31.119 --> 01:40:31.600 the world. 1750 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:33.439 They don't want that at all. 1751 01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:38.119 What they want to do is help, in most cases, 1752 01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:41.479 help the Jewish people, help their help their community. 1753 01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:42.039 Right. 1754 01:40:42.079 --> 01:40:46.920 So, there was plenty of stories where there there were 1755 01:40:47.279 --> 01:40:51.279 couples who were barren and the doctor said, you know, 1756 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:55.000 I'm sorry, you know, your your uterus just can't have children. 1757 01:40:55.960 --> 01:41:01.119 That woman got a blessing from the rebbe and she 1758 01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:04.319 gave birth and the doctor's like, how the hell is 1759 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:07.560 this possible? Like literally like you have no overag or 1760 01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:11.760 you have no this like your reproduction organs shouldn't work 1761 01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:18.479 yet yet these this woman, this couple where we'll have two, three, 1762 01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:21.920 four children, so like and then that's just you know, 1763 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:27.359 one one story. There are literally thousands of stories where 1764 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:33.239 people would go not only to the Labavacherebb, but the 1765 01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:36.880 Tasha Rebby who was in Tush, Canada. 1766 01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:39.800 He probably died about five years ago. 1767 01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:44.840 He was known to perform to perform miracles, and he's 1768 01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.199 not trying to take over the world like he's trying 1769 01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:52.840 to serve God. So like anybody who actually studies and 1770 01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:57.720 teaches this very I. 1771 01:41:57.640 --> 01:42:00.640 Don't nests they want to call it secret, like you 1772 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:02.920 need to be on a very verb, you need be. 1773 01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:06.479 A sage and all honestly to be able to be 1774 01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:08.199 on this all with it's not for the not for 1775 01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:11.560 the normal normal guy. 1776 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:15.359 Okay, So you told me once that like you may 1777 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:17.720 not know the person, but like you know the person 1778 01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:21.600 who knows the person, because the Jewish community, everybody knows everybody. Essentially, 1779 01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:24.680 you're like three steps away from knowing the guy. Could 1780 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:27.840 you potentially get the cult of conspiracy in touch with 1781 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:31.760 a true Cobbalist because that would be a fun episode 1782 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:32.680 to talk about. 1783 01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:36.319 Things I don't know. I can try. 1784 01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:41.000 I make no promises in this regard, okay, because only 1785 01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:44.279 because like there, I don't know how much they would 1786 01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:48.239 even say, you know, and I'll honestly like they're so, well, 1787 01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:49.000 why are you doing this? 1788 01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:50.600 Why are you doing that? Well, I'm doing it for 1789 01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:53.239 this for the sake of Heaven. We're doing this. But 1790 01:42:53.399 --> 01:42:55.880 that's if they would even be willing to do it. 1791 01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:56.960 And I just don't know. 1792 01:42:57.319 --> 01:43:00.520 To tell you the truth, I would appreciate if you 1793 01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:02.199 would kind of put the word out and see if 1794 01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:06.920 any uh you know responded, But if they don't, I understand. Yeah, 1795 01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:09.800 way that goes u Alex. You said in the chat 1796 01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:11.520 you can go to a meet and greet for the 1797 01:43:11.560 --> 01:43:15.720 band Ghosts if you want a Satanist yo. Fair, fair, 1798 01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:20.199 But even still like I if because at that point 1799 01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:23.319 they're like in they're in concert mode, you know what 1800 01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:25.000 I mean. It's not like having a one on one 1801 01:43:25.039 --> 01:43:27.239 with a person, like talking with them over a beer 1802 01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:29.920 at that point. Because I've seen some of the meet 1803 01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:32.199 and greets and the conversations that they have and it's 1804 01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:34.760 it's funny, but that's the point. They're doing it for 1805 01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:37.359 the the oohz and the ahs of it at that point. 1806 01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:39.920 I don't know how much of that is them being 1807 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:44.239 authentic or them doing it for the showmanship, you know, 1808 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.920 which even still they're Satanists, but their sound is so 1809 01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:53.079 soft compared to their look. I like some of their music, 1810 01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:56.960 but it's just, you know, a little more melodic than 1811 01:43:57.000 --> 01:43:59.760 you would expect by looking at their album covers and things. 1812 01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:03.199 Yeah, not at all I thought there would sound, but 1813 01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:09.000 they're still in a band. I just think that finding 1814 01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:12.319 anybody that says say, I actually believe that would be 1815 01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:17.439 just like anyone trying to be edgy or whatever. Yeah, 1816 01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:19.000 anyone really thinking. 1817 01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:21.079 That, because it's fucking stupid at least I think so. 1818 01:44:22.119 --> 01:44:25.479 I agree. But like that's the thing, you know that 1819 01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:29.000 there is at least one or two of them somewhere, 1820 01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:31.960 probably local to each of us right now, not just 1821 01:44:32.039 --> 01:44:34.800 some edgy kid that you know, picked up a couple 1822 01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:37.279 of grimoiirs and is just like, yep, I'm a witch 1823 01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:39.000 now it's whatever, like you know what I mean, like 1824 01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:42.600 somebody who really is about that life to the service 1825 01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:46.800 of the dark Lord. And for some reason, maybe it's 1826 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:48.800 just because we don't know where to look, right You 1827 01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:51.560 don't you don't fish for shark in a lake, you 1828 01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:54.600 don't hunt for elk in the desert. Perhaps we're not 1829 01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:56.840 looking in the right places to try to find one 1830 01:44:56.880 --> 01:45:00.119 of these people to come onto the show. But I'm 1831 01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:03.680 also I don't know. I agree. I feel like the 1832 01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:06.159 vast majority of them are just people that are being 1833 01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:10.520 edgy for the sake of being edgy. But I don't know, 1834 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:13.159 I don't know. Maybe one day we'll make that happen, 1835 01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:16.079 and Royce, maybe you can find that Cobby list for 1836 01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:18.359 us who can come in and educate us on some 1837 01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:21.560 things I don't know. We can only hope and pray 1838 01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:22.119 on it, you know. 1839 01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:25.399 But uh, hold on, by the way, before you go, 1840 01:45:26.640 --> 01:45:28.880 the very beginning of the chat, I did send two 1841 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:35.159 fun links about some interesting AI slash robots that you 1842 01:45:35.279 --> 01:45:37.239 might find very fun. 1843 01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:37.720 It's like that. 1844 01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:41.560 So there's two. So the first one shows like the oh, 1845 01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:43.640 here's the good side, and the second one is the 1846 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:46.960 creepiest shit the cool things I saw this week. 1847 01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:48.960 Let's go for it here. Let me go ahead and 1848 01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:53.039 share the screen. Cool, cool, cool, and let's get after it. 1849 01:45:53.760 --> 01:45:53.920 Uh. 1850 01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:59.680 Futurism is the name of this publication. You are completely 1851 01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:03.159 un prepared for what this humanoid servant robot looks like. 1852 01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:07.800 That's unexpected. Whoa, Okay, they're trying to make it have 1853 01:46:07.920 --> 01:46:12.119 soft features. Look at this. Norwegian robotics startup one X 1854 01:46:12.159 --> 01:46:15.600 has shown off its latest humanoid robot, dubbed Neo Gamma, 1855 01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:19.560 in a fleshy new promotional video. Okay, that just sounded dirty. 1856 01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:24.000 In a fleshy new promotional video claiming to show the 1857 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:29.319 bot preparing tea, doing laundry, and vacuuming around the house. Yeah, 1858 01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:31.960 it looks like it's like wearing a sweater almost, and 1859 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:33.960 the face just looks like a screen with some eyeballs 1860 01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:37.039 on it. Okay, in a bid to separate its bipedal 1861 01:46:37.079 --> 01:46:41.279 household laborer from the far creepier competition one x wrap 1862 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:45.279 Neogamma and what in what it's calling a knit suit, 1863 01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:49.079 an eyebrow raising onesie that's soft to the touch and 1864 01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:53.319 flexible for dynamic movement. Yeah, it did look like it 1865 01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:56.119 was kind of wearing a sweater onesie here. It's a 1866 01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:00.600 fascinating choice with some eerie results despite its full body sweater. 1867 01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:03.840 Neo Gamma's face is more conventional panel of a black 1868 01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:08.399 plastic dotted with an unsettling pair of but set back eyes. 1869 01:47:09.359 --> 01:47:13.720 It's as if evil scientists crossed Baymax from Disney's Big 1870 01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:17.920 Hero Six with Jason Vorhees, a hockey mass doning antagonist 1871 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:21.119 from the Friday the Thirteenth film series. My favorite as 1872 01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:24.239 far as the Slashers go, by the way, with maybe 1873 01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:28.319 a splash of of Ugi Boogie from Nightmare Before Christmas 1874 01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:32.319 and the Haunted sat Guy from nine. There is a 1875 01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:35.039 not so distant future where we will all have our 1876 01:47:35.039 --> 01:47:38.640 own robot helper at home, like Rosie from robot and Baymax, 1877 01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:45.079 said one X CEO Burnt bjorn Nick. Okay, because they're Norwegian, 1878 01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:48.159 I don't know how to do their Viking sounds in 1879 01:47:48.199 --> 01:47:51.600 a statement. But for humanoid robots to truly integrate in 1880 01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:55.920 everyday life, they must be developed alongside humans, not in isolation. 1881 01:47:56.279 --> 01:47:57.479 Oh they got a video with it. 1882 01:47:58.520 --> 01:48:10.840 That's really what I wanted you to show. 1883 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:12.159 Oh, yes, perfect. 1884 01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:41.640 I am slightly creeped out by it. I know I 1885 01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:43.960 have my biases towards robots in our homes. 1886 01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.119 But okay, wait till you get to the next one. 1887 01:48:48.039 --> 01:48:51.199 Oh I'm sure of it. I'm of course. Uh but 1888 01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:54.039 whether any of what one X showed off it's Apple 1889 01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:57.640 like promotional video will even will ever turn into reality 1890 01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.560 is awfully hazy. In a press release, the company claimed 1891 01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:04.960 the design is only a quote unquote first step and 1892 01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:09.600 opens the door to start internal home testing. Yeah, I'll 1893 01:49:09.640 --> 01:49:12.359 bet it does. In other words, don't expect Neogamma to 1894 01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:15.520 go on sale anytime soon, although, as is typical in 1895 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:20.119 the hype fueled tech sector, the company is simultaneously promising 1896 01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:25.439 exactly that even as it manages expectations. Here's a direct 1897 01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:29.880 quote with Neogamma every engineering and design decision was made 1898 01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:33.399 with one goal in mind, getting Neo into customers' homes 1899 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.920 as quickly as possible. We're close. We can't wait to 1900 01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:40.640 share more soon. One Nexus is far from the first 1901 01:49:40.640 --> 01:49:43.399 company to show off a flashy humanoid robot designed to 1902 01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:47.000 help out in the home. Elon Musk's Tesla, for instance, 1903 01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:51.279 is working on its own bipedal assistant dubbed Optimism, but 1904 01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:55.560 despite plenty of fanfare, the ev maker has employed a 1905 01:49:55.640 --> 01:49:58.439 lot of smoke and mirrors to make up for reality, 1906 01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:02.640 failing in failing to live up to some pretty bowl 1907 01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:07.760 claims so far. California based AI robot company Figure has 1908 01:50:07.920 --> 01:50:11.680 also shown off an AI powered humanoid, because again, that's 1909 01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:15.079 exactly what we needed. More AI in human robot form 1910 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:19.800 now that can talk courtesy of OpenAI's largest language model. 1911 01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:23.039 The company claims on its website that the second generation 1912 01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:27.119 of its robot, Figure O two is the world's first 1913 01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:31.560 commercially viable autonomous humanoid robot, but as yet to announce 1914 01:50:31.600 --> 01:50:35.760 price or availability. Interestingly, one X also received funding from 1915 01:50:35.800 --> 01:50:38.359 open Ai last year as part of a one hundred 1916 01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:41.960 million dollar series, in another sign of the hype for 1917 01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:45.520 humanoid robots. That can talk to other talk to their 1918 01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:49.840 masters with the help of generative AI. But despite the 1919 01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:53.720 attention and investments being poured into the industry, nobody really 1920 01:50:53.760 --> 01:50:56.880 knows when or if we'll see robots like Neogamma being 1921 01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:00.479 offered to consumers. The engineering challenges are immense, and whether 1922 01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:04.279 they can power excuse me, whether they can prove to 1923 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:07.199 be actually useful in a home setting, let alone be 1924 01:51:07.239 --> 01:51:11.279 affordable to those who aren't hugely wealthy, remains to be seen. 1925 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:13.800 At least, we'll give one X credit for the a 1926 01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:17.960 creative new twist on the otherwise uncanny aesthetics of robotics, 1927 01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:24.960 filled with creepy facial expressions and twitching extremities. Yeah. Uh, 1928 01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:28.359 the the knit sweater pattern, I'll say, makes it look 1929 01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:31.399 less threatening. You know. It looks like a sweater your 1930 01:51:31.439 --> 01:51:37.079 your grandma knitted you. And that's that's a move. And 1931 01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:42.039 now we get into the creepy robots here. Oh, for 1932 01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:47.680 the love of God, Okay, and this is from interesting Engineering. 1933 01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:52.479 Let's let's dive in here video world's first humanoid robot 1934 01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:56.520 with lifelike muscles and bones twitches to life. Yeah, why 1935 01:51:56.720 --> 01:51:59.800 why did we need that? Why did no one on 1936 01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:03.359 Earth Earth asked for that, yet they're making it because. 1937 01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:07.720 West World ask for it. West World asked for it. 1938 01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:08.880 That's where they're trying to get to. 1939 01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:15.159 Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Uh uh. Protoclone God. 1940 01:52:16.359 --> 01:52:20.920 Protoclone now uses pneumatics, but will shift to hydraulics, mimicking 1941 01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:26.199 human skeletal, muscular, vascular, and nervous systems. That just looks 1942 01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:29.880 creepy like that. That straight up looks like a scene 1943 01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:33.279 from a horror movie before it starts taking over. A 1944 01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:37.600 Polish startup, Clone Robotics has unveiled a lifelike synthetic human 1945 01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:41.920 prototype named proto Clone v I or V one excuse me. 1946 01:52:42.399 --> 01:52:46.359 It boasts over two hundred degrees of freedom, one thousand 1947 01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:52.359 mile fibers, and five hundred sensors. The faceless android is autonomic, 1948 01:52:52.520 --> 01:52:57.439 anatomically accurate, and has sparked fascination and unease. The firm 1949 01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:00.920 claims that Protoclone V one is the world's first bipedal 1950 01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:07.680 muscul musculo skeletal android. Clones mile fiber technology uses artificial 1951 01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:11.279 muscles to move the skeleton by attaching them to precise 1952 01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:17.279 bone points like animals and humans. In December, Clone entered 1953 01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:21.960 the competitive humanoid Robotics market with its debut of Clone Alpha, 1954 01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:26.479 its first full scale humanoid robot. Earlier, the firm also 1955 01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:31.640 unveiled a humanoid torso capable of human like movements. Oh joy, 1956 01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:38.800 there's a video, and it's so cool when there's a video. Okay, Yeah, 1957 01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:42.319 they're definitely making the sound. Also super creepy on this thing. 1958 01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:53.359 Bro Jesus, is any gonna kill the volume on this thing? 1959 01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.159 That is off putting as hell? 1960 01:53:59.760 --> 01:54:03.279 Yeah, and checking out the website for this colony. It's 1961 01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:08.479 really it's crazy. So they actually yeah continue sorry. 1962 01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:13.560 Oh my god. Biomimetic robots. Yeah, I said that right, 1963 01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:18.239 biomimetic mimetic Okay. In a forty second video posted on 1964 01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:21.399 social media, the proto Clone is shown suspended in a 1965 01:54:21.439 --> 01:54:25.239 workshop performing dynamic movements, with its face hidden behind a 1966 01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:30.319 black reflective mask. The protoclone prototype currently uses pneumatics, but 1967 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:34.319 will soon switch to hydraulic systems as development advances. Unlike 1968 01:54:34.399 --> 01:54:40.119 other humanoid robots, it features synthetic systems replicating human skeletal, muscular, vascular, 1969 01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:43.279 and nervous structures. Clone Robotics claims it is the first 1970 01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:45.840 bipedal Okay, we kind of already said that through the 1971 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:50.920 University of Tokyo JSK Lab introduced a similar humanoid, kane 1972 01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:54.640 Goro in twenty seventeen. However, king Goro was designed as 1973 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:59.000 a research tool, while Clone Robotics claims for commercial or 1974 01:54:59.079 --> 01:55:03.560 aims for commercial applications. Okay, is this the other robot 1975 01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:07.479 or the video here? What is this one? Clone specializes 1976 01:55:07.760 --> 01:55:11.680 in biomimetic robots, whereas others like Tesla creates pots for 1977 01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:14.960 domestic chores. It was established in twenty twenty one to 1978 01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:19.840 emulate the strength and agility of biological creatures, addressing the 1979 01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:24.920 difficult task of human body mimicry. Okay, sure, let's play 1980 01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:30.359 the next video. Why not? Yeah, I'm lowering that volume. 1981 01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:37.039 Good guy. This looks like CGI is this? 1982 01:55:37.319 --> 01:55:40.800 I don't know, I know that that's not that that's 1983 01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:41.680 actually real. 1984 01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:45.399 That's real hands. Yeah. 1985 01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:48.079 Well, they're actually when they say, like mimicking. 1986 01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:51.079 So the skeletal structure is actually two hundred and six 1987 01:55:51.119 --> 01:55:54.600 bones just like the human skeletons. Really, they're trying to 1988 01:55:54.640 --> 01:55:57.880 mimic us, like literally like legitimately. 1989 01:56:00.760 --> 01:56:01.079 Wow. 1990 01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:05.399 And so they're already talking about using hydraulics in it 1991 01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:11.159 rather than but why for efficiency reasons? That can't be 1992 01:56:11.159 --> 01:56:17.000 better better than what, like, as far as a robot 1993 01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:20.319 is concerned, Why would you do that rather than just 1994 01:56:20.359 --> 01:56:23.319 go off of like, okay, to make a muscle fast 1995 01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:25.840 twitch happen. Why wouldn't you use a solenoid? Why would 1996 01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:29.000 you want to use a hydraulic system? I seem I 1997 01:56:29.039 --> 01:56:31.319 feel like that it's like they're going out of their 1998 01:56:31.359 --> 01:56:34.119 way to make it more human, like when the point 1999 01:56:34.159 --> 01:56:37.800 of it is to not be human. But that never mind, 2000 01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:40.880 this company is really trying to make it as human 2001 01:56:40.920 --> 01:56:46.760 as possible, which again I feel yeah, yeah, I guess 2002 01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:49.720 there's like all these movies that they've come out with 2003 01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:52.520 over the past few decades about robots taking over the 2004 01:56:52.520 --> 01:56:55.359 world and all of this. I guess they just kind 2005 01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:57.119 of didn't see that as a warning and saw that 2006 01:56:57.159 --> 01:57:02.159 as a blueprint. But okay, let's keep reading here. The 2007 01:57:02.159 --> 01:57:05.039 company began by building a robotic hand that mimics human 2008 01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:08.800 function using artificial bones and muscles. Its thumb can easily 2009 01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:11.119 catch a ball and rotate. Building on this, the team 2010 01:57:11.159 --> 01:57:17.319 create a humanoid torso with realistic shoulder joints, a cervical spine, yeah, okay, 2011 01:57:17.359 --> 01:57:23.359 a cervical spine, and a moving elbow Wow. Clone originally 2012 01:57:23.399 --> 01:57:28.680 imitated human anatomy before enabling natural motion using artificial muscles 2013 01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:31.720 as opposed to creating movements around its robotic structure. The 2014 01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:38.920 outcome is remarkably lifelike, A wins remarkably okay, almost uncanny 2015 01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:43.720 and how much it resembles the human body? That doesn't 2016 01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:47.520 That doesn't resemble the human body to me and. 2017 01:57:49.079 --> 01:57:49.239 Day? 2018 01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:52.640 Yeah, well yeah, I guess so the first video a 2019 01:57:52.640 --> 01:57:54.760 little bit more. But it also looked like a corpse 2020 01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:56.920 that was kind of twitching for its life. But I 2021 01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:01.520 guess again, mimicry. You know, anybody listening to this on 2022 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.600 Thursday that would like to see what we're talking about 2023 01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:05.199 or be a part of the chat, come check out 2024 01:58:05.239 --> 01:58:07.760 the Cajun Night on Patreon if you that's the best 2025 01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:12.760 way to support this and join into the conversation here. Anyway, 2026 01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:16.680 let's keep going here. Clone Robotics has advanced its humanoid 2027 01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:20.640 design to achieve natural walking by replacing rigid actuators with 2028 01:58:20.760 --> 01:58:24.800 soft water powered artificial muscles. Okay, so they're trying to 2029 01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:26.760 make it more smooth and not as rigid. I guess 2030 01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:29.239 that would be why they're using that rather than solenoids 2031 01:58:29.239 --> 01:58:32.880 and things fair enough, this shift enhances human like movement. 2032 01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:37.560 Showcase in the company's growing expertise in robotics. Realistic Android 2033 01:58:37.600 --> 01:58:42.239 Motion Clone is advancing humanoid robotics with its myofiber artificial 2034 01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:45.920 muscle technology designed to animate a full skeleton by attaching 2035 01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:53.960 musculo musculo tendon YEAH units at anatomically accurate points. These 2036 01:58:54.000 --> 01:59:01.000 monolithic units estimate tendon failures and replicate mammalian scale platile muscles, 2037 01:59:01.359 --> 01:59:08.359 achieving response times under fifty microseconds, over thirty percent unloaded contraction, 2038 01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:11.880 and at least two point two pounds of contraction force 2039 01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:17.159 for a three gram muscle fiber that's actually on the 2040 01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:20.560 engineering side of things. That's kind of impressive. According to 2041 01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:25.119 chlone Robotics, milefiber is unmatched in power, speed and efficiency. 2042 01:59:27.119 --> 01:59:32.520 The Alpha Android skeletons closely mirrors human anatomy, featuring all 2043 01:59:32.560 --> 01:59:36.319 two hundred and six bones with mirror fusions or minor fusions, 2044 01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:41.399 rather fully articulated joints and artificial ligaments. Precise ligament and 2045 01:59:41.439 --> 01:59:44.840 tendon placement enables one hundred and sixty four degrees of 2046 01:59:44.880 --> 01:59:47.960 freedom in the upper torso, including twenty in the shoulder. 2047 01:59:48.319 --> 01:59:51.199 Six per vertebrae in the spine and twenty six across 2048 01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:54.720 the hand, wrist and elbow. And check this video out 2049 01:59:54.720 --> 02:00:05.199 two while we're at it. I mean as far as 2050 02:00:05.279 --> 02:00:07.600 creating a robot to be able to act as a 2051 02:00:07.680 --> 02:00:10.239 human and do the movements of a human. And I 2052 02:00:10.239 --> 02:00:12.199 mean this is still in the protos type stage. They're 2053 02:00:12.239 --> 02:00:16.640 gonna get better with this over time. But like, I 2054 02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:18.159 feel like that would also be really good in a 2055 02:00:18.199 --> 02:00:24.600 haunted house, like just as is for sure, Like you know, 2056 02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:26.760 especially for the jump scares and stuff like that. You 2057 02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:29.640 have that thing completely dark, It like has a bunch 2058 02:00:29.720 --> 02:00:31.640 of led lights or strobe lights that come out and 2059 02:00:31.680 --> 02:00:34.279 it starts like doing its movements and shit it people, Oh, 2060 02:00:34.319 --> 02:00:39.439 they would lose their minds. Wow. 2061 02:00:41.319 --> 02:00:42.840 Or when you wake up and you see it right 2062 02:00:43.600 --> 02:00:44.520 standing in front of you. 2063 02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:48.600 I would shoot immediately, Like I wouldn't even ask questions. 2064 02:00:48.640 --> 02:00:54.600 I would unload instantaneously on that. Oh my god. In 2065 02:00:54.840 --> 02:00:58.600 its nervous system allows real time muscle control using pro 2066 02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:05.760 prioceptive and visual feedback. Okay. The system includes four depth cameras, 2067 02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:09.520 seventy internal sensors, and three hundred and twenty pressure sensors 2068 02:01:09.760 --> 02:01:15.720 connected to micro controllers that transmit data to a Nvidia 2069 02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:20.880 in video du jets and thor GPU running clones. Cybernet model. 2070 02:01:21.439 --> 02:01:24.680 A five hundred watt electric pump powers the vascular system, 2071 02:01:24.720 --> 02:01:31.079 delivering hydraulic pressure efficiently with Aquajet valve technology, ensuring lifelike motion. 2072 02:01:32.199 --> 02:01:34.119 I also feel like the maintenance on that thing is 2073 02:01:34.159 --> 02:01:36.239 just gonna be a bitch and a half, right, Like 2074 02:01:36.319 --> 02:01:39.159 you're gonna have to have a tech among texts to 2075 02:01:39.199 --> 02:01:41.520 be able to change out these little components to make 2076 02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:47.600 that thing work if one thing goes wrong. I ah, yeah, well, 2077 02:01:47.640 --> 02:01:50.520 thanks Royce. I don't dream, but I might have nightmares now, 2078 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:52.039 so that's dope. 2079 02:01:52.239 --> 02:01:52.880 You're welcome. 2080 02:01:53.960 --> 02:01:59.279 Oh Jesus, Okay, Well, we covered a wide and wild 2081 02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:01.560 range of top on this episode. I want to thank 2082 02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:05.479 everybody for coming out here and having this conversation as 2083 02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:11.039 we typically do. Again for anybody listening to this on Thursday, Yeah, Thursday, 2084 02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:12.920 and if you would like to join into the conversation 2085 02:02:13.000 --> 02:02:15.399 next week, come check out Cajun Night on Patreon and 2086 02:02:15.479 --> 02:02:19.479 join in the conversation until next time. Everybody, Thank you, 2087 02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.039 thank you for listening, and God bless