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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty fourth, nineteen fifty two, here is the Big Elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>The story you're about to hear is true. The names

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<v Speaker 2>have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a detective sergeant.

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<v Speaker 2>You're assigned a homicide detail. You've got a call from

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<v Speaker 2>the receiving hospital in your city. A dead body has

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<v Speaker 2>been left in the hospital elevator. There's no lead to

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<v Speaker 2>the identity of the corpse. There's no apparent cause of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Your job investigator.

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<v Speaker 3>Drag Net the documented drama of an actual crime. All

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<v Speaker 3>the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 3>Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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<v Speaker 3>side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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<v Speaker 3>official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment,

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<v Speaker 3>drag Net is the story of your police force and action.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Wednesday, November ninth. That was foggy in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>We were working the night watch out a homicide detail.

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<v Speaker 4>My partner's Bill Lockwood. The boss is Captain Lrmon. My

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<v Speaker 4>name's Friday. It was eleven, twenty eight pm when we

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<v Speaker 4>got to the third floor at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Terrell's office right right to see You've been waiting

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<v Speaker 4>for you. We made it as soon as we could. Doctor, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>have you meet my new partner, Bill Lockwood, Doctor Carroll.

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<v Speaker 5>Bill, how I think I've seen you round Lockwood?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, sir, how I understand you got a problem talk

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<v Speaker 6>with the start.

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<v Speaker 7>Odd one after a few minutes after eleven, you want

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<v Speaker 7>to sit down a minute, I'll fill in.

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<v Speaker 5>Before we go back and take a look at the body.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 7>I understand it's a woman that right, Yeah, Grace Morgan,

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<v Speaker 7>she's a night nurse son duty. She told me she

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<v Speaker 7>was sitting at the desk checking over.

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<v Speaker 5>Some patients cards.

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<v Speaker 7>It was about five ten minutes after eleven when she

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<v Speaker 7>heard the elevator come up. She heard the elevator stop

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<v Speaker 7>and the door's open. Kept on checking the cards there,

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<v Speaker 7>didn't pay any attention to it, and then she realized

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<v Speaker 7>nobody got out of the elevator. She looked up and

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<v Speaker 7>the elevator doors were still open. She saw this young

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<v Speaker 7>woman slumped over in a wheelchair sitting there in the elevator.

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<v Speaker 6>A woman was alone with her. That's right.

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<v Speaker 7>The nurse went over and wheeled her out of the elevator.

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<v Speaker 7>A woman was wearing a nightgown a bathroom over that.

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<v Speaker 7>She's unconscious, nurse called me. The two of us took

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<v Speaker 7>the woman into a treatment room, examined her. She was

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<v Speaker 7>dead in any indication, how long the body was still warm,

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<v Speaker 7>She didn't lived in dead a short time, any idea

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<v Speaker 7>of the cause of death. And then there's a couple

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<v Speaker 7>of abrasions on her right shoulder, another one in the

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<v Speaker 7>right temporal region. Not positive, but I don't think any

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<v Speaker 7>of them were severe enough to cause death.

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<v Speaker 6>No other markings at all.

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<v Speaker 7>No, she seemed to have been in good physical condition. Know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's a strong smell of alcohol, though, could be cheap

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<v Speaker 7>and drinking.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's a nurse. Pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 7>The woman came up the elevator alone. Possibility one of

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<v Speaker 7>the attendants might have brought her up.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 7>I checked for the attendant on duty down the first

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<v Speaker 7>floor lobby, Ray Collins. He didn't bring her up. He

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<v Speaker 7>said a man came in the lobby about eleven o'clock

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<v Speaker 7>said he had a sick woman out in his car.

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<v Speaker 7>He asked for a wheelchair to bring her in. Ray

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<v Speaker 7>asked if he could help, but the man said he'd

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<v Speaker 7>take care of it. It's all Rady knows about it.

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<v Speaker 7>He let the man have a wheelchair, then he went

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<v Speaker 7>in the back room to change some linens on the

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<v Speaker 6>Any possibility one of the other attendants might have brought

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<v Speaker 6>her up on the elevator.

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<v Speaker 7>No, Collins was the only attendant on duty.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd like to talk to him. Is he still around?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I knew you'd want to see him. He was

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<v Speaker 7>off duty eleven thirty. I held him over. He's down

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<v Speaker 7>at the corner having a sandwich. He'll be back in

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<v Speaker 7>a few minutes. What do you figure, doctor, I think

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<v Speaker 7>the one could have operated the elevator self possible, not

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<v Speaker 7>too probable, though it's a self operating elevator automatic. Someone

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<v Speaker 7>could have wield a woman into the elevator, pushed the

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<v Speaker 7>button for the third floor, and then stepped back. We're

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<v Speaker 7>taking her straight up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the nurses sure the elevator didn't go back down

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<v Speaker 4>after it got up here.

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<v Speaker 5>Positive, she heard the elevator doors open. They stayed that way.

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<v Speaker 7>She kept waiting for someone to come out, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>what attracted her attention.

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<v Speaker 6>How about identification the woman have a person or anything

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<v Speaker 6>like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Not, No, all she had was what she was wearing

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<v Speaker 7>nightgown slippers in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go back and have a look on of swimming.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, have it? You saw the only markings on the

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<v Speaker 7>body of those abrasions on the shoulder and the forehead. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't think that's why she's dead. You any ideas

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<v Speaker 7>at all? I wouldn't want to say Lockwood strange one.

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<v Speaker 7>Then I have to wait for the autopsy. How about

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<v Speaker 7>the wheelchair? The woman came up in dockwards it though

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<v Speaker 7>back here in the same room with the body, and

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<v Speaker 7>I gave notice it wasn't to be touched.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew you'd want to check it.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh far in here, all right, just spoke in here?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, sure, no thanks, No over here on the table,

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<v Speaker 7>nurse put the woman's clothing over there, nightgown, slippers, bathroom

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<v Speaker 7>I see. Seems to be a fairly young woman, i'd.

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<v Speaker 5>Say, in her early thirties.

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<v Speaker 7>Nice looking girl, well groomed nose, her hair and fingernails,

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<v Speaker 7>well kept bruised.

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<v Speaker 6>There on her head. Took a pretty good blow to

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<v Speaker 6>cause that.

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<v Speaker 5>When you say, yeah, it might even be worse than

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<v Speaker 5>it looks hard to say right now. Other abrasions I.

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<v Speaker 7>Was telling you about right here along the clavicle seem

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<v Speaker 7>to be fairly distinct for or forum.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all of them.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, it's it, like I say, we'll no more after

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<v Speaker 7>they post the money. Take a look at the clothing,

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<v Speaker 7>O're he? You want to check over the bathrobe bill, Yeah, there's.

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<v Speaker 4>No label here, size marking though, size thirty four, just

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<v Speaker 4>an ordinary rayon nightgown seems to be fairly new. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not damaged. Nothing in the bathrobe, Joe. Both pocket's empty,

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<v Speaker 4>no visible marking. Manufacturer's label here fairly common.

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<v Speaker 6>Trade name Lodi Marks.

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<v Speaker 7>No, none showing we can have a crime lab check

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<v Speaker 7>them over.

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<v Speaker 6>How about the slippers, though it's the same nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you fellows want me to notify the corner, No,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll get a doc.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to call in for the crime lab crew. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>it looks like a rough one.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't even know what we've got.

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<v Speaker 5>And figured if somebody murdered the woman, why did they

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<v Speaker 5>bring her here to die?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she was sick or.

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<v Speaker 7>Hurt and they were worried enough about it to bring

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<v Speaker 7>her here. Why do they want to get rid of her?

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<v Speaker 7>Leave her alone in an elevator? Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody's got something to hide. Sure could use a lead

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<v Speaker 7>man puts her on the elevator and sends her up

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<v Speaker 7>three floors. Who she is? How she died? I don't

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<v Speaker 7>even know where she came from.

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<v Speaker 4>No choice when we start at the beginning, Yeah, ground floor,

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<v Speaker 4>eleven fifty two pm. The receiving hospital attendant Ray Collins

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<v Speaker 4>returned and we interviewed him.

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<v Speaker 6>In doctor Terrell's office.

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<v Speaker 4>He told us substantially the same thing the doctor had

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<v Speaker 4>told us at a few minutes past eleven o'clock that night,

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<v Speaker 4>a man entered the lobby of the hospital and asked

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<v Speaker 4>for a wheelchair to move a patient up to the

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<v Speaker 4>third floor. Colin stated he gave the man the wheelchair,

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<v Speaker 4>the man refused his offer of assistance, and Collins went

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<v Speaker 4>on about his work. He didn't see the patient, he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see any car park outside, and he was able

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<v Speaker 4>to give us only a partial description of the man,

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<v Speaker 4>himself a male Caucasian about thirty five years old, short,

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<v Speaker 4>heavy built, old dark hair.

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<v Speaker 6>The group from the Prime Lab arrived and began their investigation.

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<v Speaker 6>The body was.

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<v Speaker 4>Photographed and fingerprinted, and the wheelchair was also dusted for prints.

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<v Speaker 4>The clothing was packed up to be taken downtown for

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<v Speaker 4>further examination. After the men from the Prime Lab left,

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Lockwood began a canvas of the immediate neighborhood for

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<v Speaker 4>possible witnesses. Meantime, I checked with the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>hospital person out.

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<v Speaker 6>On the patience. They could tell me nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve thirty am I met Bill back at doctor Terrell's office.

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<v Speaker 7>How'd you do? Joey?

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<v Speaker 4>Lock After the nurses and some of the other attendants

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't help any checked with a dispatcher on incoming

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<v Speaker 4>and outgoing ambulance.

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<v Speaker 6>There's nothing there? What about you? No good?

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<v Speaker 7>Most of the business places around here a lock up.

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<v Speaker 7>Talk to the newsboy down at the corner. He was

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<v Speaker 7>about the only one in the street. He didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure going slow and then might give Bergmann a call

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<v Speaker 4>see if he's got the woman's princes classified that.

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<v Speaker 7>How about the corner show up yere?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think he's in there now, yes, ma'am give

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<v Speaker 4>me station two five five seven, Yeah, that's right, late

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<v Speaker 4>in print, All right, let me talk to Bergman plice right, yeah, Dean,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Friday.

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<v Speaker 6>Now we're still over at the hospital. And do any

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<v Speaker 6>good to those prints? That's what we figured How about

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<v Speaker 6>her princes? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay Dean, thanks, yeah right, we're still betting a thousand

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<v Speaker 4>when you say they make her princes? Nothing in records

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<v Speaker 4>on her. Dean's going to set along a set to

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<v Speaker 4>Washington see if they got anything.

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<v Speaker 6>How about the wheelchair? Any prints there?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>The nurses and Doc Carrell's that's all we figured on that,

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<v Speaker 6>didn't we how's he luck? Sure is?

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<v Speaker 4>I checked with missing persons while you were up. There's

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<v Speaker 4>nothing there either, I mean, how about finish this up here, Holly.

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<v Speaker 6>We better get back to the office. Joe, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>think I got something for you here, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Nurse at the switchboard got a call a minute ago.

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<v Speaker 7>Man's voice wanted to know the condition of Colline Cheswick.

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<v Speaker 7>Nurse checked the list of patients, didn't find anyone by

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<v Speaker 7>that name. The man insisted she's here. The nurse asked

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<v Speaker 7>him one time the woman was admitted to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 7>He told her at eleven o'clock tonight. Now, man said,

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<v Speaker 7>I know she's there. I brought her myself along.

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<v Speaker 6>With doctor Terrell.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Lockwood and I went down the hall and talked

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<v Speaker 4>his name and his relationship to the allegation Carla Chaswick,

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<v Speaker 4>but the man refused and hung up. We put in

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<v Speaker 4>run the name for us. There was no one for

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<v Speaker 4>that name in the files. We went back to the

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<v Speaker 6>In the northwestern section.

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<v Speaker 4>We found a listing for a missus Carla z Chaswick

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<v Speaker 4>on North Capitol Avenue. We called the number but there

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<v Speaker 4>was no answer, and we checked with the office, told

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<v Speaker 4>through on it. One eighteen am.

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<v Speaker 6>It was only a possibility, but it had to be

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Lockwood and I left Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, got

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<v Speaker 4>North Capitol Avenue. Was a large apartment house, fairly new.

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<v Speaker 4>The name on the mailbox for apartment eighteen was missus

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<v Speaker 4>Carla Chaswick. We rang but there was no answer. We

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<v Speaker 4>finally had to get the manager out of bed, Missus Herbert.

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<v Speaker 4>We identified ourselves and explained the reason.

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<v Speaker 6>For our visit.

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<v Speaker 4>She got a pass key, showed us upstairs to the

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<v Speaker 4>second floor and let us in apartment eighteen. There was

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<v Speaker 4>no one there, but there was evidence of a recent

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<v Speaker 4>party within a matter of hours. Half filled cocktailed glasses,

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<v Speaker 4>an empty whiskey bottle, a glass bowl containing partially melted

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<v Speaker 4>ice cubes. An end table in the corner has been overturned.

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<v Speaker 4>In the bedroom, women's clothing was scattered on the floor

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<v Speaker 4>and on the dressing table.

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<v Speaker 6>On the mantel in the living room there was a

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<v Speaker 6>picture of a woman did.

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<v Speaker 7>You notice anything unusual about her at that time?

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<v Speaker 6>Is her?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean anything out of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, don't think so. She'd been drinking some I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 10>sure of that, and that's not unusual for missus Cheswick.

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<v Speaker 10>She drinks quite a bit, parties and things, runs around

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<v Speaker 10>a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you didn't notice anything about her face, No cuts, bruises.

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<v Speaker 10>Anyone, No, nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Why and you told her she had quite a few

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<v Speaker 7>men friends. Do you know any of their names? Where

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<v Speaker 7>they live?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 7>CA's they to do? She was just rooms.

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<v Speaker 9>The tenants.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't try to get acquainted. It didn't have much

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<v Speaker 10>in common with her. The other tenants isn't either a

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<v Speaker 10>matter of fact, she kept pretty much to herself, her

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<v Speaker 10>and her friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I see now about this party she had last night

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<v Speaker 4>with Herbert. They say, you don't know who was there

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<v Speaker 4>with her?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm afraid of don't.

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<v Speaker 10>When I called her on the phone to ask her

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<v Speaker 10>to quiet things down, I heard that one man's voice talking.

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<v Speaker 7>That's about all.

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<v Speaker 10>Though I couldn't tell you who was there?

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<v Speaker 4>Was there anyone at all that you know of? It

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<v Speaker 4>was close to her, I mean someone we could talk

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<v Speaker 4>to about her.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, her husband. I suppose he's the only one close

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<v Speaker 10>to her. I know he comes around every month and

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<v Speaker 10>takes care of the rent. Kind of peculiar thing, but

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<v Speaker 10>I never questioned it. I figured it's their business live

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<v Speaker 10>and let's live. You any idea where we can find

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<v Speaker 10>the husband, I'm not sure. He works at a machine

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<v Speaker 10>shop out near Glendale. I have these home address in

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<v Speaker 10>my rent book downstairs. If you want it, yes, man,

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<v Speaker 10>we'd like to have that if we could.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you happen to know how missus Cheswick and her

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<v Speaker 4>husband got along, I mean the separation of there.

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<v Speaker 6>Was it friendly or did they still quarrel quite a bit?

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<v Speaker 10>No, as far as I know, they got along all right,

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<v Speaker 10>as long as they didn't have to live together. For

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<v Speaker 10>mister Cheswick, I's sorry for him. It's going to take

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<v Speaker 10>it hard his wife. I don't know whether to blame

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<v Speaker 10>or pity or she was a terrible disappointment to him,

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<v Speaker 10>that's all. I had a long talk with him once.

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<v Speaker 10>Seemed like such a nice man, hard worker, and he's

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<v Speaker 10>a wife. He was so disgusted, I mean, drinking all

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<v Speaker 10>the time, going out with different than men. Bitter disappointment.

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<v Speaker 6>He told me how well or did he see violent

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<v Speaker 6>on the subject iming did he feel angered toward his wife, wh.

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<v Speaker 10>Just pit a City'd rather have her dead than go

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<v Speaker 10>on the way she was.

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<v Speaker 4>We checked through the dead woman's apartment for names and

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<v Speaker 4>addresses of some of our men friends, but we found nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>The crew from the crime lab went over the apartment thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 4>The only evidence found were fingerprints on some of.

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<v Speaker 6>The cocktail glasses.

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<v Speaker 4>Along with the apartment manager, missus Herbert, we went downstairs

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<v Speaker 4>and she gave us mister Chesswick's home address and also

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<v Speaker 4>his place of employment.

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<v Speaker 6>Two thirty am we got to a phone and called.

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<v Speaker 4>Cheswick's home, but the people he was staying with told

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<v Speaker 4>us that he wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 6>He was working the.

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<v Speaker 4>All night shift at a farm implement factory on Glendale Boulevard.

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<v Speaker 4>Three to zero five am, Bill and I drove out

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<v Speaker 4>to the factory and checked with the night personnel superintendent.

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<v Speaker 4>He directed us to the factory repair shop, where Chesswick

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<v Speaker 4>was employed as a welder. The forarman at the repair

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<v Speaker 4>shop pointed him out course Chaswick was working on the

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<v Speaker 4>welding line.

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<v Speaker 6>A tall, thin man slight build.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Lockwood and I went back and introduced ourselves.

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<v Speaker 8>Say any Cheswick. That's my name. What can I do

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<v Speaker 8>for it?

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<v Speaker 11>Like to talk to you for a few minutes as

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<v Speaker 11>we could. It's about your wife, Donna. What's the matter

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<v Speaker 11>of seeing trouble again?

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<v Speaker 6>It might be better if we can step outside and talk.

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<v Speaker 6>It will take very long, all right.

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta finish up this little job here. If you

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<v Speaker 8>don't mind waiting a couple of pieces of tube, It

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<v Speaker 8>won't take a minute.

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<v Speaker 6>Here you go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>You might stand back a couple of steps.

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<v Speaker 11>This thing pops a little okay, thanks, Ah, too much oxygen.

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<v Speaker 8>I have to light it again. Ah, that does it?

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<v Speaker 8>Don't look at the flames go bast of your eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 8>For suring their money, don't they Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>They seem to a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 8>Manish just tacond hair. Okay, that's got it. Now, what's

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<v Speaker 8>this about my wife? Sergeant? What's the matter?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I understand you're separated from missus Chadwick.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's right about a year ago now. Finally gave

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<v Speaker 11>it up as a bad job. Wasn't anything I could

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<v Speaker 11>do for nothing else anybody could do for her hopeless.

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<v Speaker 6>Well when's the last time you saw?

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<v Speaker 11>First of the month went by the pair of Rent

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<v Speaker 11>dropped in and say hello, that's all.

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<v Speaker 8>I stay away as much as I can. No good, plumb.

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<v Speaker 11>That's about all you can say about her. James to

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<v Speaker 11>admit I was eating married to? Or why do you

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<v Speaker 11>ask anyway?

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<v Speaker 6>The wife's dead, mister Cheswick?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh? Yes, but she died late last night. Found her

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<v Speaker 8>at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, because I've been expecting something like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't feel sorry. Probably the best thing for ither

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<v Speaker 8>have to.

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<v Speaker 6>But we're not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if we could step outside triby a lot

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<v Speaker 4>easier to talk with it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, all right, fine, over here, we can duck out

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<v Speaker 8>the back way.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>You say they found her at Georgia Street, huh?

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<v Speaker 6>Or was it she in an accident? I say it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't look like that.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna have to wait for the coroner's report.

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<v Speaker 6>What time do you check in at night for work,

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<v Speaker 6>mister Cheswick.

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<v Speaker 5>We're supposed to be on the job by ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>I punched in before that tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>Why teen question?

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<v Speaker 11>I suppose I've been around the Planet'll watch for your

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<v Speaker 11>check in a ten and you've been here ever since?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>You can ask any of them what's the pitch You.

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<v Speaker 7>Think I had something to do with it, Charlie getting killed?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we didn't say that, Cheswick.

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<v Speaker 4>Your wife's dead and we have to check out all

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<v Speaker 4>the leads, all the possible suspect.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't know how it happened, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>have anything. I lived nine years with her. I was

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<v Speaker 7>just nine years of my life, booze parties, going out

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<v Speaker 7>all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>She wasn't my wife. She didn't know what the word meant.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand she's been running around with different men lately.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have to know any of them?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't care less. Stupid dame, Sergeant. That's the easiest

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<v Speaker 5>way you can let her off. I tried to make

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<v Speaker 5>a go of it, wasn't any good. I worked for her,

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<v Speaker 5>try to give her everything she wanted. Didn't make any difference.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a bum Some of them must be born

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<v Speaker 7>that way of bum day.

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<v Speaker 5>I could have killed her. I had reason enough to.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>How about your wife's drinking him?

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<v Speaker 7>But did she do most of it at home or

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<v Speaker 7>did you go out.

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<v Speaker 6>To the bars?

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<v Speaker 5>I always at the bar.

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<v Speaker 7>Only one place she ever went to place on Nathan

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<v Speaker 7>Rosewood right on the corner. Went there all the time,

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<v Speaker 7>six seven nights a week, hang over the bar all night.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd like to put up with that for nine years,

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<v Speaker 7>so drinking, going off somewhere and weekend I'll come. It

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<v Speaker 7>lasted that long, Chesswick, I don't know. I guess I

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<v Speaker 7>should have had my head examined her just the bomb.

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<v Speaker 7>I figured I could change her. Kept trying. They were

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<v Speaker 7>worked out. After drinking, she'd have these terrific headaches, would

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<v Speaker 7>make her sick.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd stay home from.

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<v Speaker 7>Work and take care of her, wait on her hand

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<v Speaker 7>and foot. She always made promises, nothing but a liar.

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<v Speaker 7>Soon as she got well, she'd start it all over again,

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<v Speaker 7>the same thing. Yeahs the bumb tramp, no good at all,

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<v Speaker 7>no good.

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<v Speaker 5>Tramp, no good tramp.

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<v Speaker 6>Chadwick, mister Chesswick is.

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<v Speaker 5>All what you do, Carley, She's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably when the dead woman's husband there was Cherswick recovered.

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<v Speaker 4>We continued questioning him, but we got nowhere. Before we

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<v Speaker 4>left the plant, we checked his time card, talked to

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<v Speaker 4>the machine shop foreman and some of the men Chesswick

432
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<v Speaker 4>worked with.

433
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<v Speaker 6>We got the same story. All along the line.

434
00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.839
<v Speaker 4>Chesswick had showed up for work at nine forty six

435
00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.160
<v Speaker 4>pm the night before, and had not left the plant

436
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<v Speaker 4>since that time.

437
00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:18.160
<v Speaker 6>Four thirty five am.

438
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<v Speaker 4>Bylla and I got in the car, drove back to

439
00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:22.039
<v Speaker 4>the office and typed up a fifteen point seven report

440
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<v Speaker 4>for Captain Wrman.

441
00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:24.839
<v Speaker 6>Eight thirty am.

442
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<v Speaker 4>Over in the County Morgue, the body of missus Cheswick

443
00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:27.920
<v Speaker 4>was being posted.

444
00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:29.640
<v Speaker 6>A few minutes past ten.

445
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<v Speaker 4>Am, Bill Lockwood and I drove out to the bar

446
00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:33.799
<v Speaker 4>in the corner of Eighth and Rosewood, the same bar

447
00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:35.960
<v Speaker 4>where Ernest Cheswick told us his wife did most of

448
00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.680
<v Speaker 4>her drinking with a typical neighborhood talk heal lounge in

449
00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:41.519
<v Speaker 4>the early morning, two customers sipping beer at the bar

450
00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:43.799
<v Speaker 4>under the bar, the manager busy.

451
00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:45.079
<v Speaker 6>Washing glasses and bringing in supply.

452
00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.440
<v Speaker 4>We called him over and identified ourselves.

453
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<v Speaker 7>Popular girl married, old Ernie Chesswick separated.

454
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<v Speaker 6>Now, yeah, do you know she was in here last night?

455
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<v Speaker 9>That's right?

456
00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.599
<v Speaker 7>She was hardly missus Knight.

457
00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:58.599
<v Speaker 4>Why would you have to know about what time she

458
00:18:58.680 --> 00:18:59.960
<v Speaker 4>left last night?

459
00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:02.799
<v Speaker 8>Thirty about that mine? I sat frona there downtown in

460
00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:04.039
<v Speaker 8>the bar' no better than me?

461
00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:16.279
<v Speaker 9>How's that he left with us?

462
00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.920
<v Speaker 3>You are listening to drag meth authentic stories of your

463
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<v Speaker 3>police force and action.

464
00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:32.799
<v Speaker 4>November tenth, Thursday, ten fourteen am, the manager of the cocktail.

465
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<v Speaker 6>Lounge pointed out the man at the end.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Of the bar who was supposed to have left the

467
00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.480
<v Speaker 4>place shortly after eight o'clock the night before with the

468
00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:38.799
<v Speaker 4>dead woman, Carla Cheswick.

469
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<v Speaker 6>Bill Lockwood and I.

470
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<v Speaker 4>Went up to the man, identified ourselves and questioned him briefly.

471
00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.359
<v Speaker 4>He appeared tense and highly nervous. He told us his

472
00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.200
<v Speaker 4>name was John Gables, an assistant sales manager for a

473
00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.559
<v Speaker 4>downtown jewelry. Concerned, he didn't deny that he was in

474
00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.960
<v Speaker 4>the bar the night before, but he refused to admit

475
00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.480
<v Speaker 4>that he left with missus Cheswick. He insisted he didn't

476
00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:58.599
<v Speaker 4>even know her. We asked him to a comper how

477
00:19:58.599 --> 00:19:59.839
<v Speaker 4>he spent his time the night before.

478
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<v Speaker 7>He refused.

479
00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.160
<v Speaker 6>We got him a car and drove downtown.

480
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<v Speaker 4>To the City Hall while Bill took the suspect of

481
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<v Speaker 4>the interrogation room.

482
00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:08.400
<v Speaker 6>I stopped by the R and I counter and had

483
00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:10.319
<v Speaker 6>to make a run on Gables. He had no.

484
00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.039
<v Speaker 4>Previous criminal record. I called him morg but there was

485
00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:16.000
<v Speaker 4>no report on the autopsy yet. Ten fifty two am

486
00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:18.240
<v Speaker 4>I signed in at the office brief Captain Lorman on

487
00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:20.319
<v Speaker 4>the developments, and then I haded down the hall for

488
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<v Speaker 4>the interrogation room.

489
00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:26.279
<v Speaker 7>We had a couple of drinks together, and that's all

490
00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.160
<v Speaker 7>it was to it. You didn't ask anybody who was there.

491
00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:29.799
<v Speaker 7>She got up and left by herself. I didn't go

492
00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.279
<v Speaker 7>with it. Jill Eables, who was just telling me you

493
00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:34.160
<v Speaker 7>did see missus Cheswick in the bar last night. I

494
00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:35.200
<v Speaker 7>had a couple of drinks with us.

495
00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:36.359
<v Speaker 6>Why did you hold out, Gable?

496
00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.240
<v Speaker 7>Why couldn't you told us that when we asked you,

497
00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.240
<v Speaker 7>I didn't remember. Then you came up to me and

498
00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.119
<v Speaker 7>the bar started asking questions. I got a rattle. Did

499
00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:43.799
<v Speaker 7>make a different?

500
00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:43.920
<v Speaker 9>So?

501
00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:46.039
<v Speaker 7>I didn't even know her name, said those couple of

502
00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.319
<v Speaker 7>drinks with him, and then she got up and left.

503
00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:48.680
<v Speaker 7>That's all. I didn't go out with him. And the

504
00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:51.079
<v Speaker 7>bartender says, you did, sure of it. He says he

505
00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:52.920
<v Speaker 7>can get half of another people to back him up.

506
00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.039
<v Speaker 7>He's wrong, He's got to be. He's thinking of somebody else.

507
00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.000
<v Speaker 6>Well, if you didn't leave the bar with miss Chesswick,

508
00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:57.920
<v Speaker 6>when did you leave?

509
00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:00.359
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. At five to ten minutes later, I

510
00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.039
<v Speaker 7>get where'd you go? Then I walked around a little bit,

511
00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.319
<v Speaker 7>got a little fresh air, and I went to a show,

512
00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.000
<v Speaker 7>which one I don't remember the name of the places.

513
00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:09.920
<v Speaker 7>So n rose with a couple of blocks down from

514
00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.759
<v Speaker 7>the bar or pictures you see. I'm not sure. I

515
00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:13.559
<v Speaker 7>had a couple of drinks.

516
00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:14.880
<v Speaker 6>I went to the movies. You don't even know what

517
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:15.160
<v Speaker 6>you saw.

518
00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:16.960
<v Speaker 7>I told you I had a couple of drinks, feeling

519
00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:19.160
<v Speaker 7>pretty good. I just don't remember that song. Not much

520
00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:20.880
<v Speaker 7>of an hour bar gave us talking about it.

521
00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:23.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't mean Alabama's dead, mister, you were with her

522
00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:24.559
<v Speaker 4>the last time she was seen alive.

523
00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:26.359
<v Speaker 7>It wasn't with her. I don't care what anybody tells you.

524
00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.160
<v Speaker 6>I wasn't with this movie. You say you went to

525
00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:29.359
<v Speaker 6>What times you get.

526
00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.480
<v Speaker 7>Out at the midnight? I think I don't remember.

527
00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:33.279
<v Speaker 6>Where'd you go after that? Bar?

528
00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:34.920
<v Speaker 7>Had a few more drinks, and then I went back to

529
00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.920
<v Speaker 7>my hotel. Which bar was a place on West Seventh.

530
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.559
<v Speaker 7>I'd go there sometimes. I know the bartender.

531
00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:40.599
<v Speaker 6>What times you leave there?

532
00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:42.880
<v Speaker 7>Closing time two o'clock? And then I went back to

533
00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:43.400
<v Speaker 7>my hotel.

534
00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:46.039
<v Speaker 6>You say you know the bartender there, I guess he'd

535
00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:47.480
<v Speaker 6>be glad to vouch for you. I mean that you

536
00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:48.440
<v Speaker 6>were there when you said you were.

537
00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:50.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. Maybe not. He was pretty busy last night,

538
00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.480
<v Speaker 7>maybe didn't notice me. How about your hotel h the

539
00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:55.640
<v Speaker 7>desk clerk, somebody like that. They should be able to

540
00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:57.519
<v Speaker 7>tell what time you got in. Don't you think they

541
00:21:57.559 --> 00:21:59.480
<v Speaker 7>wouldn't know. I always carry my key with me. I'd

542
00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:01.119
<v Speaker 7>go into side door. They wouldn't know what time I

543
00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:01.400
<v Speaker 7>got in.

544
00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.400
<v Speaker 6>What are you trying to sell? Mister? What are you

545
00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:03.960
<v Speaker 6>talking about?

546
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:05.920
<v Speaker 4>You knocked around town from eight o'clock last night till

547
00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:07.599
<v Speaker 4>past two o'clock this morning. You can't think of anyone

548
00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.119
<v Speaker 4>that could watch for you where you were, what time

549
00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 4>you got here, what time you left?

550
00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Speaker 7>I can't think of anybody right now. I don't take

551
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.519
<v Speaker 7>down names and the dresses every time somebody looks at me.

552
00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.400
<v Speaker 7>What's the difference, anyway? I didn't have anything to do

553
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:16.839
<v Speaker 7>with a girl.

554
00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:19.359
<v Speaker 4>This difference gable attendant at the hospital. He got a

555
00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:20.640
<v Speaker 4>good look at the man who came in and asked

556
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:22.480
<v Speaker 4>for that wheelchair. He gave us a man's description that

557
00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:24.960
<v Speaker 4>fits you pretty close, So it doesn't mean anything.

558
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:26.920
<v Speaker 7>He could make a mistake too, just like that bartender.

559
00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:28.599
<v Speaker 6>They're all wrong. But you's know what you're trying to say.

560
00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:30.319
<v Speaker 7>Look, as far as I'm concerned, I only got one

561
00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:31.720
<v Speaker 7>thing to say. I had a couple of drinks with

562
00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:33.599
<v Speaker 7>Karla last night, and that's all. She left by herself.

563
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:34.680
<v Speaker 7>I didn't even go near the apark.

564
00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:35.920
<v Speaker 6>How do you know she had an apartment?

565
00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.359
<v Speaker 7>Well, you told me, you said, so, you know, we

566
00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.839
<v Speaker 7>didn't say anything like that, And I guess I heard

567
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.640
<v Speaker 7>around the bar. Maybe she mentioned to me, Yeah, that's

568
00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:44.039
<v Speaker 7>probably it.

569
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:45.319
<v Speaker 6>Why don't you come off at Gables?

570
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:46.079
<v Speaker 12>Come off what.

571
00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:47.160
<v Speaker 7>I don't even know what you getting.

572
00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.000
<v Speaker 4>We want a straight story, and we're not getting it.

573
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:50.640
<v Speaker 4>You told us she didn't even know the chairs with

574
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.319
<v Speaker 4>women before last night. You didn't even know her name,

575
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:53.799
<v Speaker 4>that's right. And why did you say Carla? Just a

576
00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:55.160
<v Speaker 4>minute ago you said I had a couple of drinks

577
00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:58.319
<v Speaker 4>with Carla. They say that that's what you're saying. Maybe

578
00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.559
<v Speaker 4>I just hadn't remembered. I was drink quite a bit

579
00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.599
<v Speaker 4>talking to her. Maybe I just remembered, won't.

580
00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:05.279
<v Speaker 7>Do Gables story, doesn't know water? How about it? I

581
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:06.839
<v Speaker 7>don't know. I was drinking quite a bit. A lot

582
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:07.640
<v Speaker 7>of things I don't remember.

583
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:09.599
<v Speaker 6>How I've given it to a straight What do you remember?

584
00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:13.680
<v Speaker 7>I thought about it, thought about it all night. The

585
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 7>more I went over, the worst it got. I just

586
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.799
<v Speaker 7>couldn't remember. I knew what it did sound like in court.

587
00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:18.559
<v Speaker 7>I couldn't tell it that.

588
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:19.319
<v Speaker 6>We couldn't tell what.

589
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:21.559
<v Speaker 7>I didn't kill her. I didn't even touch it. You

590
00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:24.480
<v Speaker 7>gotta believe that. I left the bar with her about

591
00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 7>eight fifteen, eight thirty. She invited me up to her apartment.

592
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:29.519
<v Speaker 7>She was pretty well gone. I had quite a few drinks,

593
00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:32.400
<v Speaker 7>got there and had some more to drink, and Karla

594
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:33.960
<v Speaker 7>got up and started for the kitchen to get some

595
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.839
<v Speaker 7>more ice. She tripped, I think stumbled a little bit,

596
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:38.920
<v Speaker 7>and then she fell down. I think that's the way

597
00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:41.720
<v Speaker 7>it was, all right, go on. She tried to get up,

598
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.119
<v Speaker 7>and then she fell again. Wasn't a bad fallow. I

599
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.759
<v Speaker 7>figured she just passed out. Got some cold towels, ice water.

600
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 7>I tried to bring her around. It wasn't any good.

601
00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:51.519
<v Speaker 7>She was white as a sheep. I got scared. I

602
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 7>didn't know what happened.

603
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:52.960
<v Speaker 6>What'd you do that?

604
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I don't remember. I just kept trying to bring her around.

605
00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't remember any of it very well. I don't

606
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:00.559
<v Speaker 7>even know why she fell down, could have hit her.

607
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:00.799
<v Speaker 6>Gable.

608
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:02.720
<v Speaker 7>Do you think maybe that's why she fell down? No,

609
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:05.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I don't think so, I don't. I

610
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 7>don't think I was mad at her for anything. I

611
00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.519
<v Speaker 7>think we were having a pretty good time. I just

612
00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:13.480
<v Speaker 7>don't remember, that's all. I'm not sure about any of it.

613
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 7>It was no good at all.

614
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.480
<v Speaker 6>Did you kill her? Gable?

615
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 7>No, Sergeant, I swear it, as far as I can remember,

616
00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:19.880
<v Speaker 7>I didn't. We were having a good time, that's all

617
00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.039
<v Speaker 7>I know. I know I wasn't mad. I'm not a

618
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 7>nasty drunk, not as far as I can remember. Anyway,

619
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 7>What did you do when you couldn't revive missus Cheswick?

620
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:27.400
<v Speaker 7>He brought her to the hospital.

621
00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:28.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the shape I was.

622
00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:30.759
<v Speaker 7>In, I couldn't figure anything else to do. I got

623
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 7>her in the car, drove down to Georgia Street. I

624
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:34.440
<v Speaker 7>put her in the elevator, pressed the button and sent

625
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.880
<v Speaker 7>her up. I'm a married man, you know. I didn't

626
00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 7>want any scandal. I didn't want to get involved, and.

627
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.559
<v Speaker 6>You didn't feel he Is that what you want us

628
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 6>to believe.

629
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.160
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what to tell you. I don't remember

630
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 7>if I killed her. I think i'd know it. I'm

631
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 7>sure I would. I just don't remember. I got it.

632
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:58.759
<v Speaker 6>Pterrogation room Friday time. Yeah, that's uh, this is I

633
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 6>got a pencil I gave be sure. How was that?

634
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:07.279
<v Speaker 6>I see?

635
00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:13.880
<v Speaker 4>No possibility? Yeah, I see. Okay, thanks a lot. Yeah, sure,

636
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 4>we'll pick it up later. Bye bye.

637
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Joe Corner's report just finished the autopsy.

638
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, Gable s all right, it's all cleared up. What

639
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 4>do you mean while you're free to go if you like,

640
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:28.319
<v Speaker 4>we're not gonnology?

641
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.160
<v Speaker 6>What was the pitched? Joe Corner's report.

642
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 4>Primary cause of death was a massive cerebral hemorrhage hemorrhae

643
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 4>into the ventricle.

644
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 7>Could have been a blow on the head, couldn't it?

645
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:36.680
<v Speaker 7>You figured that could have done it.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Secondary cause was a brain tumor, a big one. Corner says,

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<v Speaker 4>she's had it for years. It must have caused her

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of pain. Probably would have counted for the

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<v Speaker 4>drinking and the tumor. Wrote on their hemorrhage. That's what's

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<v Speaker 4>killed her, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Say, Corner says. Erosion of the blood vessel.

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<v Speaker 4>By a brain tumor probably grew caused pressure on a

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<v Speaker 4>blood vessel finally gave way caused the hemorrhage, and.

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<v Speaker 7>That killer if she just died, I didn't have anything

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<v Speaker 7>to do. She died and I didn't kill her.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, sir, that's right. Feel free to go if you want.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank God, you know officers, I'll tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know the answer. I didn't know if I

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<v Speaker 7>killed or not.

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<v Speaker 6>I really didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Drinking so much, I came to and there she was dead.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know what happened. I really didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>know the answer.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you went up on that stable. We thought we did.

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<v Speaker 2>The story you have just heard was true. The names

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<v Speaker 2>were changed to protect the innocence.

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<v Speaker 3>On Thursday, November tenth, the meeting was held in the

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<v Speaker 3>office of Captain of Homicide. In a moment the results

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<v Speaker 3>of that meeting, with the filing of the official autopsy

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<v Speaker 3>report by the county coroner, John Gables was cleared of

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<v Speaker 3>all charges. He was released from custody immediately. The death

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<v Speaker 3>of missus Carla Cheswick was listed as due to natural

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<v Speaker 3>causes by the Coroner's Jury.

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<v Speaker 6>Ladies and Gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year's traffic death toll was thirty seven five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>a seven percent increase over nineteen fifty The National Safety

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<v Speaker 2>Council believes that the best way to promote safety on

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<v Speaker 2>the road is for each of us to know and

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<v Speaker 2>obey traffic laws.

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<v Speaker 6>To read and heed traffic signs. So be careful.

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<v Speaker 2>The life you save may be your own.

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<v Speaker 3>You have just heard drag myth a series of authentic

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<v Speaker 3>cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office

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<v Speaker 3>of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police

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<v Speaker 3>Department Technical advisors Captain Jack Donaho's Sergeant Marty Wynn, Sergeant

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<v Speaker 3>Fans Bracier heard tonight were Martin Milner, Vic Perrin, and Gwendolino.

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<v Speaker 3>Script by Jim Mosy, music by Walter Schumann. Hel Gibney speaking.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it's coveror Spy on NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Back. There are a couple of moments in this

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<v Speaker 1>episode that I really appreciated. The questioning of the husband,

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest Cheswick really captures a lot of emotion. He spent

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<v Speaker 1>nine years trying to get the relationship to work, is

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<v Speaker 1>still paying the rent, but is now in this separated status.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this brief scene you capture the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>anger and frustration at the broken promises and the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this self destructive cycle. But then Finally, when that's

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<v Speaker 1>all done, you get to the real core sadness that

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<v Speaker 1>this person you spent nearly a decade with is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate the emotional complexity of that scene. Very

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<v Speaker 1>well done. And then the interrogation, which shows how sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>someone in a less than ideal situation might have trouble

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<v Speaker 1>giving account of themselves to the police even though they're innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also shows the danger of leaning too heavily

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<v Speaker 1>into a solution before a full investigation was done. This

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a case where they leapt as far as Friday

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<v Speaker 1>and Jacobs did in the Big Casing, but it still

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<v Speaker 1>shows that you can get out in front of the evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly with Friday's closing line. Listener comments and feedback now

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<v Speaker 1>and we go to YouTube for some comments on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Show. Catherine rits a great ending, and Mildred writes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have fond memories of the Greyhound Buys station when

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<v Speaker 1>it was on sixth and Los Angeles Street. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I had a manager whose wife cheated on him and

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<v Speaker 1>got pregnant with someone else's baby. Instead of getting divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>he raised the sun as if it was his own.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if the boy ever knew that the

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<v Speaker 1>man who raised him was not his real father. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much, and I guess that is an example

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<v Speaker 1>of that story in the episode happening in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we have some comments on our listeners survey and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Jeremy writes. Uh Uh in Toronto writes when answering

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<v Speaker 1>what aspect I enjoy most about this podcast, the survey

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<v Speaker 1>only allowed me to pick one between the hosts content

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<v Speaker 1>and guest. I selected content, but I feel that separate

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<v Speaker 1>separating the host from the content is a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a disservice to the host. Adam grant their many shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I could choose to listen to with similar programming, but

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<v Speaker 1>I choose to listen to the great detectives of Old

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<v Speaker 1>time Radio because of the insightful, professional, and entertaining commentary

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<v Speaker 1>provided by the host. Adam's commentary is an important portion

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<v Speaker 1>of the content of the show. Well, thanks so much, Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the perspective. And David over in Scotland says

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<v Speaker 1>the show is fantastic. I love the Sherlock Holmes series,

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<v Speaker 1>and Paul writes anything with Philip marlowin. I assume that

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<v Speaker 1>Paul approved of our vacation week programs. Well, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go ahead and thank Damien, Patreon supporter

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<v Speaker 1>since March twenty twenty four, currently supporting the podcast at

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for your support. That will do it

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<v Speaker 1>for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us

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<v Speaker 1>will be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet.

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<v Speaker 1>But join us back here tomorrow for another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Yours Truly Johnny Dollar, where.

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<v Speaker 12>If you are.

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<v Speaker 13>Willing to pay me, will if you can dig up

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<v Speaker 13>the information I want, I'll maybe you a check for

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<v Speaker 13>one hundred bucks American immediately journey only.

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<v Speaker 12>For in the steam booth services.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, two hundred Now listen, there's a little idol, the

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<v Speaker 13>mailing Buddha.

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<v Speaker 12>It will. I saw it only this morning here in Paris,

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<v Speaker 12>where at the shop of Monsieur dubuisson On he was

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<v Speaker 12>mored in only a few weeks ago. And the price

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<v Speaker 12>on it well, for such aware and exquisite piece, most

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<v Speaker 12>reasonable how much time? Thirty two million francs.

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<v Speaker 7>Good, that's around eighty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>So it must be the McCoy.

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<v Speaker 12>You wish me to. Shall we see upteam it for you?

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<v Speaker 6>You mean steal it? What?

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<v Speaker 12>Of course?

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<v Speaker 7>With you?

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<v Speaker 12>But for our price?

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, think I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be with us then in the meantime, send your

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<v Speaker 1>comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, follow

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<v Speaker 1>Se Ataho. This is your host, Adam Graham, sogn and

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<v Speaker 1>off
