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April twenty fourth, nineteen fifty two, here is the Big Elevator.
Speaker 2: The story you're about to hear is true. The names
have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a detective sergeant.
You're assigned a homicide detail. You've got a call from
the receiving hospital in your city. A dead body has
been left in the hospital elevator. There's no lead to
the identity of the corpse. There's no apparent cause of that.
Your job investigator.
Speaker 3: Drag Net the documented drama of an actual crime. All
the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
side of the law through an actual case transcribed from
official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment,
drag Net is the story of your police force and action.
Speaker 4: It was Wednesday, November ninth. That was foggy in Los Angeles.
We were working the night watch out a homicide detail.
My partner's Bill Lockwood. The boss is Captain Lrmon. My
name's Friday. It was eleven, twenty eight pm when we
got to the third floor at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital,
doctor Terrell's office right right to see You've been waiting
for you. We made it as soon as we could. Doctor, Like,
have you meet my new partner, Bill Lockwood, Doctor Carroll.
Speaker 5: Bill, how I think I've seen you round Lockwood?
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, how I understand you got a problem talk
with the start.
Speaker 7: Odd one after a few minutes after eleven, you want
to sit down a minute, I'll fill in.
Speaker 5: Before we go back and take a look at the body.
Speaker 6: Thanks very much.
Speaker 7: I understand it's a woman that right, Yeah, Grace Morgan,
she's a night nurse son duty. She told me she
was sitting at the desk checking over.
Speaker 5: Some patients cards.
Speaker 7: It was about five ten minutes after eleven when she
heard the elevator come up. She heard the elevator stop
and the door's open. Kept on checking the cards there,
didn't pay any attention to it, and then she realized
nobody got out of the elevator. She looked up and
the elevator doors were still open. She saw this young
woman slumped over in a wheelchair sitting there in the elevator.
Speaker 6: A woman was alone with her. That's right.
Speaker 7: The nurse went over and wheeled her out of the elevator.
A woman was wearing a nightgown a bathroom over that.
She's unconscious, nurse called me. The two of us took
the woman into a treatment room, examined her. She was
dead in any indication, how long the body was still warm,
She didn't lived in dead a short time, any idea
of the cause of death. And then there's a couple
of abrasions on her right shoulder, another one in the
right temporal region. Not positive, but I don't think any
of them were severe enough to cause death.
Speaker 6: No other markings at all.
Speaker 7: No, she seemed to have been in good physical condition. Know,
it's a strong smell of alcohol, though, could be cheap
and drinking.
Speaker 6: Here's a nurse. Pretty sure.
Speaker 7: The woman came up the elevator alone. Possibility one of
the attendants might have brought her up.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 7: I checked for the attendant on duty down the first
floor lobby, Ray Collins. He didn't bring her up. He
said a man came in the lobby about eleven o'clock
said he had a sick woman out in his car.
He asked for a wheelchair to bring her in. Ray
asked if he could help, but the man said he'd
take care of it. It's all Rady knows about it.
He let the man have a wheelchair, then he went
in the back room to change some linens on the
ambulance striction.
Speaker 6: Any possibility one of the other attendants might have brought
her up on the elevator.
Speaker 7: No, Collins was the only attendant on duty.
Speaker 6: I'd like to talk to him. Is he still around?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew you'd want to see him. He was
off duty eleven thirty. I held him over. He's down
at the corner having a sandwich. He'll be back in
a few minutes. What do you figure, doctor, I think
the one could have operated the elevator self possible, not
too probable, though it's a self operating elevator automatic. Someone
could have wield a woman into the elevator, pushed the
button for the third floor, and then stepped back. We're
taking her straight up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the nurses sure the elevator didn't go back down
after it got up here.
Speaker 5: Positive, she heard the elevator doors open. They stayed that way.
Speaker 7: She kept waiting for someone to come out, and that's
what attracted her attention.
Speaker 6: How about identification the woman have a person or anything
like that.
Speaker 7: Not, No, all she had was what she was wearing
nightgown slippers in the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Let's go back and have a look on of swimming.
Speaker 7: Okay, have it? You saw the only markings on the
body of those abrasions on the shoulder and the forehead. Yeah, yeah,
you don't think that's why she's dead. You any ideas
at all? I wouldn't want to say Lockwood strange one.
Then I have to wait for the autopsy. How about
the wheelchair? The woman came up in dockwards it though
back here in the same room with the body, and
I gave notice it wasn't to be touched.
Speaker 5: I knew you'd want to check it.
Speaker 6: Oh far in here, all right, just spoke in here?
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, no thanks, No over here on the table,
nurse put the woman's clothing over there, nightgown, slippers, bathroom
I see. Seems to be a fairly young woman, i'd.
Speaker 5: Say, in her early thirties.
Speaker 7: Nice looking girl, well groomed nose, her hair and fingernails,
well kept bruised.
Speaker 6: There on her head. Took a pretty good blow to
cause that.
Speaker 5: When you say, yeah, it might even be worse than
it looks hard to say right now. Other abrasions I.
Speaker 7: Was telling you about right here along the clavicle seem
to be fairly distinct for or forum.
Speaker 6: That's all of them.
Speaker 7: Uh, it's it, like I say, we'll no more after
they post the money. Take a look at the clothing,
O're he? You want to check over the bathrobe bill, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 4: No label here, size marking though, size thirty four, just
an ordinary rayon nightgown seems to be fairly new. It's
not damaged. Nothing in the bathrobe, Joe. Both pocket's empty,
no visible marking. Manufacturer's label here fairly common.
Speaker 6: Trade name Lodi Marks.
Speaker 7: No, none showing we can have a crime lab check
them over.
Speaker 6: How about the slippers, though it's the same nothing.
Speaker 5: Do you fellows want me to notify the corner, No,
we'll get a doc.
Speaker 6: We have to call in for the crime lab crew. Anyway,
it looks like a rough one.
Speaker 7: We don't even know what we've got.
Speaker 5: And figured if somebody murdered the woman, why did they
bring her here to die?
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was sick or.
Speaker 7: Hurt and they were worried enough about it to bring
her here. Why do they want to get rid of her?
Leave her alone in an elevator? Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Somebody's got something to hide. Sure could use a lead
man puts her on the elevator and sends her up
three floors. Who she is? How she died? I don't
even know where she came from.
Speaker 4: No choice when we start at the beginning, Yeah, ground floor,
eleven fifty two pm. The receiving hospital attendant Ray Collins
returned and we interviewed him.
Speaker 6: In doctor Terrell's office.
Speaker 4: He told us substantially the same thing the doctor had
told us at a few minutes past eleven o'clock that night,
a man entered the lobby of the hospital and asked
for a wheelchair to move a patient up to the
third floor. Colin stated he gave the man the wheelchair,
the man refused his offer of assistance, and Collins went
on about his work. He didn't see the patient, he
didn't see any car park outside, and he was able
to give us only a partial description of the man,
himself a male Caucasian about thirty five years old, short,
heavy built, old dark hair.
Speaker 6: The group from the Prime Lab arrived and began their investigation.
The body was.
Speaker 4: Photographed and fingerprinted, and the wheelchair was also dusted for prints.
The clothing was packed up to be taken downtown for
further examination. After the men from the Prime Lab left,
Bill Lockwood began a canvas of the immediate neighborhood for
possible witnesses. Meantime, I checked with the rest of the
hospital person out.
Speaker 6: On the patience. They could tell me nothing.
Speaker 4: Twelve thirty am I met Bill back at doctor Terrell's office.
Speaker 7: How'd you do? Joey?
Speaker 4: Lock After the nurses and some of the other attendants
they couldn't help any checked with a dispatcher on incoming
and outgoing ambulance.
Speaker 6: There's nothing there? What about you? No good?
Speaker 7: Most of the business places around here a lock up.
Talk to the newsboy down at the corner. He was
about the only one in the street. He didn't see anything.
Speaker 4: Sure going slow and then might give Bergmann a call
see if he's got the woman's princes classified that.
Speaker 7: How about the corner show up yere?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's in there now, yes, ma'am give
me station two five five seven, Yeah, that's right, late
in print, All right, let me talk to Bergman plice right, yeah, Dean,
Joe Friday.
Speaker 6: Now we're still over at the hospital. And do any
good to those prints? That's what we figured How about
her princes? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay Dean, thanks, yeah right, we're still betting a thousand
when you say they make her princes? Nothing in records
on her. Dean's going to set along a set to
Washington see if they got anything.
Speaker 6: How about the wheelchair? Any prints there?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 6: The nurses and Doc Carrell's that's all we figured on that,
didn't we how's he luck? Sure is?
Speaker 4: I checked with missing persons while you were up. There's
nothing there either, I mean, how about finish this up here, Holly.
Speaker 6: We better get back to the office. Joe, Yeah, I
think I got something for you here, you know.
Speaker 7: Nurse at the switchboard got a call a minute ago.
Man's voice wanted to know the condition of Colline Cheswick.
Nurse checked the list of patients, didn't find anyone by
that name. The man insisted she's here. The nurse asked
him one time the woman was admitted to the hospital.
He told her at eleven o'clock tonight. Now, man said,
I know she's there. I brought her myself along.
Speaker 6: With doctor Terrell.
Speaker 4: Bill Lockwood and I went down the hall and talked
to the nurse who'd received the phone call. She told
us that she tried to question the caller as to
his name and his relationship to the allegation Carla Chaswick,
but the man refused and hung up. We put in
a call to R and I and asked him to
run the name for us. There was no one for
that name in the files. We went back to the
doctor's office and started checking through the telephone directories.
Speaker 6: In the northwestern section.
Speaker 4: We found a listing for a missus Carla z Chaswick
on North Capitol Avenue. We called the number but there
was no answer, and we checked with the office, told
him what we had and we were going to follow
through on it. One eighteen am.
Speaker 6: It was only a possibility, but it had to be
checked out.
Speaker 4: Bill Lockwood and I left Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, got
in the car and drove out to the address on
North Capitol Avenue. Was a large apartment house, fairly new.
The name on the mailbox for apartment eighteen was missus
Carla Chaswick. We rang but there was no answer. We
finally had to get the manager out of bed, Missus Herbert.
We identified ourselves and explained the reason.
Speaker 6: For our visit.
Speaker 4: She got a pass key, showed us upstairs to the
second floor and let us in apartment eighteen. There was
no one there, but there was evidence of a recent
party within a matter of hours. Half filled cocktailed glasses,
an empty whiskey bottle, a glass bowl containing partially melted
ice cubes. An end table in the corner has been overturned.
In the bedroom, women's clothing was scattered on the floor
and on the dressing table.
Speaker 6: On the mantel in the living room there was a
picture of a woman did.
Speaker 7: You notice anything unusual about her at that time?
Speaker 6: Is her?
Speaker 7: I mean anything out of the ordinary.
Speaker 10: Oh, don't think so. She'd been drinking some I'm pretty
sure of that, and that's not unusual for missus Cheswick.
She drinks quite a bit, parties and things, runs around
a lot.
Speaker 6: Yes, you didn't notice anything about her face, No cuts, bruises.
Speaker 10: Anyone, No, nothing like that.
Speaker 7: Why and you told her she had quite a few
men friends. Do you know any of their names? Where
they live?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: CA's they to do? She was just rooms.
Speaker 9: The tenants.
Speaker 10: I didn't try to get acquainted. It didn't have much
in common with her. The other tenants isn't either a
matter of fact, she kept pretty much to herself, her
and her friends.
Speaker 4: I see now about this party she had last night
with Herbert. They say, you don't know who was there
with her?
Speaker 7: No, I'm afraid of don't.
Speaker 10: When I called her on the phone to ask her
to quiet things down, I heard that one man's voice talking.
Speaker 7: That's about all.
Speaker 10: Though I couldn't tell you who was there?
Speaker 4: Was there anyone at all that you know of? It
was close to her, I mean someone we could talk
to about her.
Speaker 10: Well, her husband. I suppose he's the only one close
to her. I know he comes around every month and
takes care of the rent. Kind of peculiar thing, but
I never questioned it. I figured it's their business live
and let's live. You any idea where we can find
the husband, I'm not sure. He works at a machine
shop out near Glendale. I have these home address in
my rent book downstairs. If you want it, yes, man,
we'd like to have that if we could.
Speaker 4: Would you happen to know how missus Cheswick and her
husband got along, I mean the separation of there.
Speaker 6: Was it friendly or did they still quarrel quite a bit?
Speaker 10: No, as far as I know, they got along all right,
as long as they didn't have to live together. For
mister Cheswick, I's sorry for him. It's going to take
it hard his wife. I don't know whether to blame
or pity or she was a terrible disappointment to him,
that's all. I had a long talk with him once.
Seemed like such a nice man, hard worker, and he's
a wife. He was so disgusted, I mean, drinking all
the time, going out with different than men. Bitter disappointment.
Speaker 6: He told me how well or did he see violent
on the subject iming did he feel angered toward his wife, wh.
Speaker 10: Just pit a City'd rather have her dead than go
on the way she was.
Speaker 4: We checked through the dead woman's apartment for names and
addresses of some of our men friends, but we found nothing.
The crew from the crime lab went over the apartment thoroughly.
The only evidence found were fingerprints on some of.
Speaker 6: The cocktail glasses.
Speaker 4: Along with the apartment manager, missus Herbert, we went downstairs
and she gave us mister Chesswick's home address and also
his place of employment.
Speaker 6: Two thirty am we got to a phone and called.
Speaker 4: Cheswick's home, but the people he was staying with told
us that he wasn't there.
Speaker 6: He was working the.
Speaker 4: All night shift at a farm implement factory on Glendale Boulevard.
Three to zero five am, Bill and I drove out
to the factory and checked with the night personnel superintendent.
He directed us to the factory repair shop, where Chesswick
was employed as a welder. The forarman at the repair
shop pointed him out course Chaswick was working on the
welding line.
Speaker 6: A tall, thin man slight build.
Speaker 4: Bill Lockwood and I went back and introduced ourselves.
Speaker 8: Say any Cheswick. That's my name. What can I do
for it?
Speaker 11: Like to talk to you for a few minutes as
we could. It's about your wife, Donna. What's the matter
of seeing trouble again?
Speaker 6: It might be better if we can step outside and talk.
It will take very long, all right.
Speaker 8: I gotta finish up this little job here. If you
don't mind waiting a couple of pieces of tube, It
won't take a minute.
Speaker 6: Here you go right ahead.
Speaker 8: You might stand back a couple of steps.
Speaker 11: This thing pops a little okay, thanks, Ah, too much oxygen.
Speaker 8: I have to light it again. Ah, that does it?
Don't look at the flames go bast of your eyes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 8: For suring their money, don't they Yeah?
Speaker 6: They seem to a lot of work.
Speaker 8: Manish just tacond hair. Okay, that's got it. Now, what's
this about my wife? Sergeant? What's the matter?
Speaker 6: Well, I understand you're separated from missus Chadwick.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right about a year ago now. Finally gave
it up as a bad job. Wasn't anything I could
do for nothing else anybody could do for her hopeless.
Speaker 6: Well when's the last time you saw?
Speaker 11: First of the month went by the pair of Rent
dropped in and say hello, that's all.
Speaker 8: I stay away as much as I can. No good, plumb.
Speaker 11: That's about all you can say about her. James to
admit I was eating married to? Or why do you
ask anyway?
Speaker 6: The wife's dead, mister Cheswick?
Speaker 8: Uh? Yes, but she died late last night. Found her
at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital.
Speaker 11: Oh, because I've been expecting something like that.
Speaker 8: I can't feel sorry. Probably the best thing for ither
have to.
Speaker 6: But we're not sure.
Speaker 4: I wonder if we could step outside triby a lot
easier to talk with it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, fine, over here, we can duck out
the back way.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 5: You say they found her at Georgia Street, huh?
Speaker 6: Or was it she in an accident? I say it
doesn't look like that.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to wait for the coroner's report.
Speaker 6: What time do you check in at night for work,
mister Cheswick.
Speaker 5: We're supposed to be on the job by ten o'clock.
I punched in before that tonight.
Speaker 7: Why teen question?
Speaker 11: I suppose I've been around the Planet'll watch for your
check in a ten and you've been here ever since?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: You can ask any of them what's the pitch You.
Speaker 7: Think I had something to do with it, Charlie getting killed?
Speaker 6: Well, we didn't say that, Cheswick.
Speaker 4: Your wife's dead and we have to check out all
the leads, all the possible suspect.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know how it happened, but I didn't
have anything. I lived nine years with her. I was
just nine years of my life, booze parties, going out
all the time.
Speaker 5: She wasn't my wife. She didn't know what the word meant.
Speaker 4: I understand she's been running around with different men lately.
Do you have to know any of them?
Speaker 6: Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I couldn't care less. Stupid dame, Sergeant. That's the easiest
way you can let her off. I tried to make
a go of it, wasn't any good. I worked for her,
try to give her everything she wanted. Didn't make any difference.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a bum Some of them must be born
that way of bum day.
Speaker 5: I could have killed her. I had reason enough to.
I didn't.
Speaker 6: How about your wife's drinking him?
Speaker 7: But did she do most of it at home or
did you go out.
Speaker 6: To the bars?
Speaker 5: I always at the bar.
Speaker 7: Only one place she ever went to place on Nathan
Rosewood right on the corner. Went there all the time,
six seven nights a week, hang over the bar all night.
I'd like to put up with that for nine years,
so drinking, going off somewhere and weekend I'll come. It
lasted that long, Chesswick, I don't know. I guess I
should have had my head examined her just the bomb.
I figured I could change her. Kept trying. They were
worked out. After drinking, she'd have these terrific headaches, would
make her sick.
Speaker 5: I'd stay home from.
Speaker 7: Work and take care of her, wait on her hand
and foot. She always made promises, nothing but a liar.
Soon as she got well, she'd start it all over again,
the same thing. Yeahs the bumb tramp, no good at all,
no good.
Speaker 5: Tramp, no good tramp.
Speaker 6: Chadwick, mister Chesswick is.
Speaker 5: All what you do, Carley, She's dead.
Speaker 4: Probably when the dead woman's husband there was Cherswick recovered.
We continued questioning him, but we got nowhere. Before we
left the plant, we checked his time card, talked to
the machine shop foreman and some of the men Chesswick
worked with.
Speaker 6: We got the same story. All along the line.
Speaker 4: Chesswick had showed up for work at nine forty six
pm the night before, and had not left the plant
since that time.
Speaker 6: Four thirty five am.
Speaker 4: Bylla and I got in the car, drove back to
the office and typed up a fifteen point seven report
for Captain Wrman.
Speaker 6: Eight thirty am.
Speaker 4: Over in the County Morgue, the body of missus Cheswick
was being posted.
Speaker 6: A few minutes past ten.
Speaker 4: Am, Bill Lockwood and I drove out to the bar
in the corner of Eighth and Rosewood, the same bar
where Ernest Cheswick told us his wife did most of
her drinking with a typical neighborhood talk heal lounge in
the early morning, two customers sipping beer at the bar
under the bar, the manager busy.
Speaker 6: Washing glasses and bringing in supply.
Speaker 4: We called him over and identified ourselves.
Speaker 7: Popular girl married, old Ernie Chesswick separated.
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, do you know she was in here last night?
Speaker 9: That's right?
Speaker 7: She was hardly missus Knight.
Speaker 4: Why would you have to know about what time she
left last night?
Speaker 8: Thirty about that mine? I sat frona there downtown in
the bar' no better than me?
Speaker 9: How's that he left with us?
Speaker 3: You are listening to drag meth authentic stories of your
police force and action.
Speaker 4: November tenth, Thursday, ten fourteen am, the manager of the cocktail.
Speaker 6: Lounge pointed out the man at the end.
Speaker 4: Of the bar who was supposed to have left the
place shortly after eight o'clock the night before with the
dead woman, Carla Cheswick.
Speaker 6: Bill Lockwood and I.
Speaker 4: Went up to the man, identified ourselves and questioned him briefly.
He appeared tense and highly nervous. He told us his
name was John Gables, an assistant sales manager for a
downtown jewelry. Concerned, he didn't deny that he was in
the bar the night before, but he refused to admit
that he left with missus Cheswick. He insisted he didn't
even know her. We asked him to a comper how
he spent his time the night before.
Speaker 7: He refused.
Speaker 6: We got him a car and drove downtown.
Speaker 4: To the City Hall while Bill took the suspect of
the interrogation room.
Speaker 6: I stopped by the R and I counter and had
to make a run on Gables. He had no.
Speaker 4: Previous criminal record. I called him morg but there was
no report on the autopsy yet. Ten fifty two am
I signed in at the office brief Captain Lorman on
the developments, and then I haded down the hall for
the interrogation room.
Speaker 7: We had a couple of drinks together, and that's all
it was to it. You didn't ask anybody who was there.
She got up and left by herself. I didn't go
with it. Jill Eables, who was just telling me you
did see missus Cheswick in the bar last night. I
had a couple of drinks with us.
Speaker 6: Why did you hold out, Gable?
Speaker 7: Why couldn't you told us that when we asked you,
I didn't remember. Then you came up to me and
the bar started asking questions. I got a rattle. Did
make a different?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 7: I didn't even know her name, said those couple of
drinks with him, and then she got up and left.
That's all. I didn't go out with him. And the
bartender says, you did, sure of it. He says he
can get half of another people to back him up.
He's wrong, He's got to be. He's thinking of somebody else.
Speaker 6: Well, if you didn't leave the bar with miss Chesswick,
when did you leave?
Speaker 7: I don't know. At five to ten minutes later, I
get where'd you go? Then I walked around a little bit,
got a little fresh air, and I went to a show,
which one I don't remember the name of the places.
So n rose with a couple of blocks down from
the bar or pictures you see. I'm not sure. I
had a couple of drinks.
Speaker 6: I went to the movies. You don't even know what
you saw.
Speaker 7: I told you I had a couple of drinks, feeling
pretty good. I just don't remember that song. Not much
of an hour bar gave us talking about it.
Speaker 4: I don't mean Alabama's dead, mister, you were with her
the last time she was seen alive.
Speaker 7: It wasn't with her. I don't care what anybody tells you.
Speaker 6: I wasn't with this movie. You say you went to
What times you get.
Speaker 7: Out at the midnight? I think I don't remember.
Speaker 6: Where'd you go after that? Bar?
Speaker 7: Had a few more drinks, and then I went back to
my hotel. Which bar was a place on West Seventh.
I'd go there sometimes. I know the bartender.
Speaker 6: What times you leave there?
Speaker 7: Closing time two o'clock? And then I went back to
my hotel.
Speaker 6: You say you know the bartender there, I guess he'd
be glad to vouch for you. I mean that you
were there when you said you were.
Speaker 7: I don't know. Maybe not. He was pretty busy last night,
maybe didn't notice me. How about your hotel h the
desk clerk, somebody like that. They should be able to
tell what time you got in. Don't you think they
wouldn't know. I always carry my key with me. I'd
go into side door. They wouldn't know what time I
got in.
Speaker 6: What are you trying to sell? Mister? What are you
talking about?
Speaker 4: You knocked around town from eight o'clock last night till
past two o'clock this morning. You can't think of anyone
that could watch for you where you were, what time
you got here, what time you left?
Speaker 7: I can't think of anybody right now. I don't take
down names and the dresses every time somebody looks at me.
What's the difference, anyway? I didn't have anything to do
with a girl.
Speaker 4: This difference gable attendant at the hospital. He got a
good look at the man who came in and asked
for that wheelchair. He gave us a man's description that
fits you pretty close, So it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 7: He could make a mistake too, just like that bartender.
Speaker 6: They're all wrong. But you's know what you're trying to say.
Speaker 7: Look, as far as I'm concerned, I only got one
thing to say. I had a couple of drinks with
Karla last night, and that's all. She left by herself.
I didn't even go near the apark.
Speaker 6: How do you know she had an apartment?
Speaker 7: Well, you told me, you said, so, you know, we
didn't say anything like that, And I guess I heard
around the bar. Maybe she mentioned to me, Yeah, that's
probably it.
Speaker 6: Why don't you come off at Gables?
Speaker 12: Come off what.
Speaker 7: I don't even know what you getting.
Speaker 4: We want a straight story, and we're not getting it.
You told us she didn't even know the chairs with
women before last night. You didn't even know her name,
that's right. And why did you say Carla? Just a
minute ago you said I had a couple of drinks
with Carla. They say that that's what you're saying. Maybe
I just hadn't remembered. I was drink quite a bit
talking to her. Maybe I just remembered, won't.
Speaker 7: Do Gables story, doesn't know water? How about it? I
don't know. I was drinking quite a bit. A lot
of things I don't remember.
Speaker 6: How I've given it to a straight What do you remember?
Speaker 7: I thought about it, thought about it all night. The
more I went over, the worst it got. I just
couldn't remember. I knew what it did sound like in court.
I couldn't tell it that.
Speaker 6: We couldn't tell what.
Speaker 7: I didn't kill her. I didn't even touch it. You
gotta believe that. I left the bar with her about
eight fifteen, eight thirty. She invited me up to her apartment.
She was pretty well gone. I had quite a few drinks,
got there and had some more to drink, and Karla
got up and started for the kitchen to get some
more ice. She tripped, I think stumbled a little bit,
and then she fell down. I think that's the way
it was, all right, go on. She tried to get up,
and then she fell again. Wasn't a bad fallow. I
figured she just passed out. Got some cold towels, ice water.
I tried to bring her around. It wasn't any good.
She was white as a sheep. I got scared. I
didn't know what happened.
Speaker 6: What'd you do that?
Speaker 7: I don't remember. I just kept trying to bring her around.
I don't remember any of it very well. I don't
even know why she fell down, could have hit her.
Speaker 6: Gable.
Speaker 7: Do you think maybe that's why she fell down? No,
I don't know. I don't think so, I don't. I
don't think I was mad at her for anything. I
think we were having a pretty good time. I just
don't remember, that's all. I'm not sure about any of it.
It was no good at all.
Speaker 6: Did you kill her? Gable?
Speaker 7: No, Sergeant, I swear it, as far as I can remember,
I didn't. We were having a good time, that's all
I know. I know I wasn't mad. I'm not a
nasty drunk, not as far as I can remember. Anyway,
What did you do when you couldn't revive missus Cheswick?
He brought her to the hospital.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the shape I was.
Speaker 7: In, I couldn't figure anything else to do. I got
her in the car, drove down to Georgia Street. I
put her in the elevator, pressed the button and sent
her up. I'm a married man, you know. I didn't
want any scandal. I didn't want to get involved, and.
Speaker 6: You didn't feel he Is that what you want us
to believe.
Speaker 7: I don't know what to tell you. I don't remember
if I killed her. I think i'd know it. I'm
sure I would. I just don't remember. I got it.
Speaker 6: Pterrogation room Friday time. Yeah, that's uh, this is I
got a pencil I gave be sure. How was that?
I see?
Speaker 4: No possibility? Yeah, I see. Okay, thanks a lot. Yeah, sure,
we'll pick it up later. Bye bye.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Joe Corner's report just finished the autopsy.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Gable s all right, it's all cleared up. What
do you mean while you're free to go if you like,
we're not gonnology?
Speaker 6: What was the pitched? Joe Corner's report.
Speaker 4: Primary cause of death was a massive cerebral hemorrhage hemorrhae
into the ventricle.
Speaker 7: Could have been a blow on the head, couldn't it?
You figured that could have done it.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: Secondary cause was a brain tumor, a big one. Corner says,
she's had it for years. It must have caused her
a lot of pain. Probably would have counted for the
drinking and the tumor. Wrote on their hemorrhage. That's what's
killed her, I.
Speaker 6: Say, Corner says. Erosion of the blood vessel.
Speaker 4: By a brain tumor probably grew caused pressure on a
blood vessel finally gave way caused the hemorrhage, and.
Speaker 7: That killer if she just died, I didn't have anything
to do. She died and I didn't kill her.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that's right. Feel free to go if you want.
Speaker 7: Thank God, you know officers, I'll tell you the truth.
I didn't know the answer. I didn't know if I
killed or not.
Speaker 6: I really didn't.
Speaker 7: Drinking so much, I came to and there she was dead.
I didn't know what happened. I really didn't. I didn't
know the answer.
Speaker 6: Now you went up on that stable. We thought we did.
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names
were changed to protect the innocence.
Speaker 3: On Thursday, November tenth, the meeting was held in the
office of Captain of Homicide. In a moment the results
of that meeting, with the filing of the official autopsy
report by the county coroner, John Gables was cleared of
all charges. He was released from custody immediately. The death
of missus Carla Cheswick was listed as due to natural
causes by the Coroner's Jury.
Speaker 6: Ladies and Gentlemen.
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a seven percent increase over nineteen fifty The National Safety
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Speaker 7: Now it's coveror Spy on NBC.
Speaker 1: Welcome Back. There are a couple of moments in this
episode that I really appreciated. The questioning of the husband,
Ernest Cheswick really captures a lot of emotion. He spent
nine years trying to get the relationship to work, is
still paying the rent, but is now in this separated status.
And in this brief scene you capture the sort of
anger and frustration at the broken promises and the end
of this self destructive cycle. But then Finally, when that's
all done, you get to the real core sadness that
this person you spent nearly a decade with is gone,
and I appreciate the emotional complexity of that scene. Very
well done. And then the interrogation, which shows how sometimes
someone in a less than ideal situation might have trouble
giving account of themselves to the police even though they're innocent.
And it also shows the danger of leaning too heavily
into a solution before a full investigation was done. This
wasn't a case where they leapt as far as Friday
and Jacobs did in the Big Casing, but it still
shows that you can get out in front of the evidence,
particularly with Friday's closing line. Listener comments and feedback now
and we go to YouTube for some comments on the
Big Show. Catherine rits a great ending, and Mildred writes,
I have fond memories of the Greyhound Buys station when
it was on sixth and Los Angeles Street. And also
I had a manager whose wife cheated on him and
got pregnant with someone else's baby. Instead of getting divorced,
he raised the sun as if it was his own.
I'm not sure if the boy ever knew that the
man who raised him was not his real father. Well,
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of that story in the episode happening in real life.
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Speaker 12: If you are.
Speaker 13: Willing to pay me, will if you can dig up
the information I want, I'll maybe you a check for
one hundred bucks American immediately journey only.
Speaker 12: For in the steam booth services.
Speaker 13: Okay, two hundred Now listen, there's a little idol, the
mailing Buddha.
Speaker 12: It will. I saw it only this morning here in Paris,
where at the shop of Monsieur dubuisson On he was
mored in only a few weeks ago. And the price
on it well, for such aware and exquisite piece, most
reasonable how much time? Thirty two million francs.
Speaker 7: Good, that's around eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: So it must be the McCoy.
Speaker 12: You wish me to. Shall we see upteam it for you?
Speaker 6: You mean steal it? What?
Speaker 12: Of course?
Speaker 7: With you?
Speaker 12: But for our price?
Speaker 8: No, no, think I hope.
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