Speaker 1: What's happening? Billy badness?
Speaker 2: That's the thing in the past. What's the word your
Speaker 2: frigging nerds? We're back with the fire escape cast. It's
Speaker 2: just one hundred. Oh my god, Dan, what one of
Speaker 2: these days I'm gonna do an intro where you don't
Speaker 2: interrupt me and make it about you.
Speaker 3: Mary is interrupting too. We're both interrupting you.
Speaker 2: She gets to interrupt. I heard it speaking rules. He didn't.
Speaker 2: Marry didn't get the Cardigan memory.
Speaker 3: Calm feet January or February.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking fancy man, fancy look older. Episode one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five. Ye, it is thirty four, thirty four
Speaker 2: degrees in Frankfurt. How have you guys been? Is it snowy? No? Mary,
Speaker 2: probably not where you are.
Speaker 1: Oh my weather, it's weird. It's a it's been kind
Speaker 1: of warm. So it's been forties and maybe sometimes the fifties.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it rains, but it's too warm and it's weird.
Speaker 1: We don't like it. It's supposed to be cold and
Speaker 1: rainy and cloudy. This is not our vibe, Like our
Speaker 1: rainy season is all off. I don't think it's good.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I do like not rain, but I
Speaker 1: I think there's something wrong. It should be raining right now.
Speaker 2: It's like Ireland weather pack Northwest, Ireland West Coast. It
Speaker 2: felt like the pack Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: When I was in Galway, they said that our ice
Speaker 1: pack is really low. So my worry is if it
Speaker 1: doesn't get cold enough and we don't get snow, it'll
Speaker 1: affect our rivers and streams in the spring, and I
Speaker 1: think that has downstream impacts.
Speaker 2: If the will Lammett dries up. You can get your
Speaker 2: phone back, though, damn it.
Speaker 1: I know it's not worth it. Global warming is not
Speaker 1: worth it to retrieve my twenty sixteen iPhone.
Speaker 2: Dan, How's how's how's the weather with You's? Sure it's cold, the.
Speaker 3: Brutally cold, not getting a lot of snow right now,
Speaker 3: but definitely holding up towards just you're not really going outside.
Speaker 3: But on that note, are you guys aware of like
Speaker 3: there's like some conspiracy theory now about snow being plastic?
Speaker 3: No fill me in, Okay, Well, you know I follow
Speaker 3: you know, wrestlers, so I get I get clued in
Speaker 3: on a lot of dumb shit.
Speaker 2: Theirs are in good shape, right, Uh.
Speaker 3: This one in particular, I'm thinking of is just the worst.
Speaker 3: But this one guy was posting stuff about like I'm
Speaker 3: looking out here. It's like, this is the weirdest thing.
Speaker 3: I'm holding the lighter up to my snow. It's not melting.
Speaker 3: There's something up with this. There's something like I don't
Speaker 3: even know what the conspiracy is. I don't know if
Speaker 3: they're saying like, oh, Democrats are raining plastic snow down
Speaker 3: or something. But yeah, then I just googled like snow uh,
Speaker 3: and it's everyone a certain type of person is saying
Speaker 3: a lot about snow being plastic and it must mean something.
Speaker 2: Interesting like if there you would think that the people
Speaker 2: who are also trying to fake global warming would refrain
Speaker 2: from dropping fake snow from the sky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Logic's great. Here they're saying, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the video now. Yeah, they're trying to
Speaker 3: burn it with the lighter, and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it turned black instead of melting, like this is government snow.
Speaker 2: This is like what is this?
Speaker 3: Like the fuck does that mean? It's like, okay, it's
Speaker 3: a residue from the lighter. Yeah, the snow doesn't turn black. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm reading about it now on Yahoo creators your your
Speaker 3: best source for news. I don't know. I just googled them.
Speaker 3: This what popped up. But that seems stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stupid. Maybe dancing around?
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he has like a he lives near a
Speaker 1: mountain and they have to have fake snow so that
Speaker 1: people can ski.
Speaker 2: No, I think he's just stupid.
Speaker 1: Even that's not plastic though, that's just a form of
Speaker 1: real snow.
Speaker 2: Speaking of conspiracies, I finally caught up and watched Pogonia
Speaker 2: since last Good.
Speaker 1: That's a good conspiracy movie. Also, Jesse Plemmons might be
Speaker 1: one of the best actors.
Speaker 3: I just watched Jesse Plemmons in the movie last night.
Speaker 3: For the first time. I watched The Master.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, oh my god, holy shit. That's
Speaker 2: I okay, good to know. What do you mean you
Speaker 2: watched him the movie for the first time. You saw Pogonia?
Speaker 3: I saw the movie. No, I watched Oh I saw
Speaker 3: the movie. It was a weird way to put it.
Speaker 3: I saw The Master for the first time.
Speaker 2: I remember that came out when I was at Game
Speaker 2: Former in twenty twelve, and I thought you'd seen it,
Speaker 2: but we talked about this last episode. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you watched it, but yet really really quick Pogonia,
Speaker 2: really good movie. It's definitely I don't I still don't
Speaker 2: know that it broke my top five from last year.
Speaker 2: We had talked about our top five, but it's it's
Speaker 2: really good, really well made.
Speaker 3: Weird because like, as soon as I started seeing Jesse
Speaker 3: Plemons kind of pop up, which is like what mid
Speaker 3: twenty tens, maybe I always thought he had a very
Speaker 3: Phillips Seymour Hoffin deal about him, and then like he
Speaker 3: plays Phillip sy Moore Hoffin's son and The Master, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, there you go. I'm not the
Speaker 3: only one thing in that. But yeah, he doesn't have
Speaker 3: a huge role in that. But God Walking Phoenix is
Speaker 3: just he's a guy that like every time I've seen
Speaker 3: him in a movie, I don't know if this is
Speaker 3: good or bad about him, but I'm like, I bet
Speaker 3: that guy's actually fucking nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, so so yeah, so Freddy Quail, Wait, So,
Speaker 2: generally speaking, what did you think of The Master? I
Speaker 2: liked it a lot.
Speaker 3: I remember thinking like, oh, at first I thought Paul
Speaker 3: Thomas Anderson when it was in production was like making
Speaker 3: a movie specifically about like Eron Hubbard and Scientology and
Speaker 3: steff Ooh, that's going to be interesting. And then I
Speaker 3: heard it's like, uh, it's kind of a loosely based
Speaker 3: They don't it's not really based on it's it's pretty
Speaker 3: thinly veiled. It's very much Aroon Hubbard and Scientology, but
Speaker 3: you know, it's a fictionalized version of all. I think
Speaker 3: I lost a little bit of interest, and like, reviews
Speaker 3: weren't that great necessarily when it first came out, so
Speaker 3: I just didn't watch it when it came out, even
Speaker 3: though like, There Will Be Blood was I think the
Speaker 3: previous one that's like one of my favorite movies ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, There Will Be Blood was nine, I believe Master
Speaker 2: was twelve. After that it would have been Inherent Vice.
Speaker 2: And then the one before There Will Be Blood I
Speaker 2: believe was Punch Drunk Love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just watched that recently. Yeah, that old us.
Speaker 2: It's it's funny. We talked about it because I think
Speaker 2: it's I go back and forth sometimes. I think it's
Speaker 2: actually my favorite pta movie. I love The Master. It
Speaker 2: hit me hard the first time I watched it, and
Speaker 2: that is one of his movies that I rewatch the most,
Speaker 2: and I feel like it is making the rounds lately.
Speaker 2: I think because Jesse maybe again Jesse Plemmons has like
Speaker 2: four lines in it, but like.
Speaker 3: Or one Battle. I mean, I think people are just
Speaker 3: talking about I think people.
Speaker 2: Are going back to that. So I've been seeing people
Speaker 2: a lot of people saying they're watching it now, and
Speaker 2: I think watching it after understanding Paul Thomas Anderson's other
Speaker 2: movies a bit more, it's more fun because the first
Speaker 2: time I was trying to watch is trying to figure
Speaker 2: it out, but like, ultimately it really is about the
Speaker 2: quasi battle kind of like homo erotic relationship between Philip
Speaker 2: Seymour Hoffman and Freddy Quell and what the hell is
Speaker 2: name Dodd Lancaster Dodd h.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that was the thing is like I at
Speaker 3: the end, I was talking to Bonk and I was like,
Speaker 3: we both liked it, But I said, like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if I'm just stupid or it's like the thing
Speaker 3: that kind of bugged me about this was that, like,
Speaker 3: I liked it. It was very well made and the
Speaker 3: acting this is an actor movie capital a, you know,
Speaker 3: but like I didn't really take away like what's the message, Like, well,
Speaker 3: what do I take away from here?
Speaker 2: You know? That?
Speaker 3: Is it like Mother where it's like I watched that
Speaker 3: whole movie and didn't realize there were like allegories and stuff,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like totally missing something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never seen Paul Thomas Anderson to
Speaker 2: be someone who makes things for people to figure out.
Speaker 3: To me, I was like, Oh, yeah, what the fuck
Speaker 3: was that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Magnolia, I really don't think like Punch Drunk Love.
Speaker 2: I guess Punchdrunk Love wraps up tidally because that he
Speaker 2: actually finally kind of does find love after having a
Speaker 2: really rough life. But like The Master, very much to me,
Speaker 2: is like Lancaster Dodd, who is someone who a cult
Speaker 2: leader who is trying to convince people of this intangible thing,
Speaker 2: and then he finds Freddie, who they compare to an
Speaker 2: animal visually and even like in the script many times
Speaker 2: throughout when they both go to jail, he's literally like
Speaker 2: a caged animal freaking out. And I think Lancaster Dodd
Speaker 2: sees this like impossible convert in him because the big
Speaker 2: thing that movie doesn't touch on after the first like
Speaker 2: ten minutes is like the this is a generation of
Speaker 2: people suffering from PTSD before we truly understood it, and
Speaker 2: we still and truly understand it. But so Freddy's dealing
Speaker 2: with that and not knowing how to handle it. But
Speaker 2: it's very much Lancas or Dodd trying to quote unquote
Speaker 2: like tame an animal, realizing it's impossible. But I think
Speaker 2: there's also some sexual undercurrent with them in a way
Speaker 2: like that's.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're like grab assen in the lawn and stuff.
Speaker 2: He sings. He sings him an old timey run grab yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're straight up grab yeah.
Speaker 3: They're rolling around pants and stuff.
Speaker 2: The last five minutes is Philip seymour Hoffman, just a
Speaker 2: one shot on him crying as he sings, I want
Speaker 2: to get you on a slow boat to China. I walked.
Speaker 2: I remember watching that was like, this is the best
Speaker 2: movie I've ever seen in my like doucheier years.
Speaker 1: Like, no, I haven't seen The Master.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think like you can really spoil it.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not something where like there's.
Speaker 1: No nothing that you guys have said is tangible in any.
Speaker 2: Way you can't. I was gonna say that was great.
Speaker 1: Nothing that you have said is is is functionally able
Speaker 1: for me to like put together and understand what this
Speaker 1: movie is. I don't know what's going on. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the characters are. I do know that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of grab assen going on and the last third, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like think it's I genuinely think it's a very
Speaker 2: fun movie to watch.
Speaker 3: It's funny at times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the like the pace of the editing. I love
Speaker 2: how the soundtracks amazing. But just like that tracking shot
Speaker 2: when he's he accidentally poisons the guy and he's running
Speaker 2: across the field and that tracking shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the people are chasing them, and the motorcycle
Speaker 3: shot and everything there's there's Paul thom Sanderson's just fun to
Speaker 3: watch it, even if it's not your favorite one of
Speaker 3: his movies. They watching it though. I At the same time,
Speaker 3: I'm reading this book about Lauren Michaels that just came
Speaker 3: out like last year, and at one point they're talking about, like,
Speaker 3: you know, when he was first kind of coming up
Speaker 3: and going to la and stuff, like at some point
Speaker 3: he was like doing some on stage stuff, wondering if
Speaker 3: he wanted to be an actor like Lauren Michaels was,
Speaker 3: And he said that, like there was a scene where
Speaker 3: he was like playing against like a real deal actor,
Speaker 3: and Lauren realized that, like, oh I looked in that
Speaker 3: guy's eyes and like that guy was that character, and
Speaker 3: I realized, oh, I'm just pretending to be a guy,
Speaker 3: you know, Like that guy's becoming the guy. And he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm not an actor. I need to just kind of
Speaker 3: be behind the scenes here, you know. So, yeah, that
Speaker 3: this movie was like actor actors, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like Philip sever Hoffmann rightfully gets his flowers
Speaker 2: for that movie. But Joaquin Phoenix is unreal.
Speaker 3: I mean, he seems like he seems like he would
Speaker 3: be unsufferable right in real life.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he doesn't have a reputation for it.
Speaker 3: I mean I think I might just be judging it
Speaker 3: by that weird Letterman appearance, like you know, fifteen years
Speaker 3: ago or whatever where he was he felt this weird.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's apologized sort of apologize for it and
Speaker 2: also acknowledged that it was duchey.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he showed up and like he didn't let
Speaker 3: anyone know he was basically in k fabe, like in
Speaker 3: character for this stupid, like mockumentary thing.
Speaker 1: He's no, I'm okay, okay, so he was like, what
Speaker 1: do they call it method?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but he was a drunk and high on yeah,
Speaker 2: but it.
Speaker 1: Was acting and drunken high.
Speaker 3: But it was also part of like he was trying
Speaker 3: to do the stunt basically, where like the whole deal
Speaker 3: of this movie was like a documentary about like in
Speaker 3: real life. Joaquin Phoenix started saying things like I'm quitting acting,
Speaker 3: I'm becoming a rapper, and like you know, he was
Speaker 3: basically manufacturing all these things where it's like, oh, I
Speaker 3: I was wrapping at this party and then drunk and
Speaker 3: fell off a table or whatever, and it went viral
Speaker 3: and everybody was legitimately thinking, like, what the fuck is
Speaker 3: Joaquin Phoenix doing. He's becoming a rapper, He's quitting acting.
Speaker 3: And it turned out later that it was all part
Speaker 3: of this movie stunt where.
Speaker 2: It was a bit it was just like an.
Speaker 3: Trying to do Andy Coffin down to the going on
Speaker 3: Letterman thing where Kaufmin did it successfully and Joaquing Phoenix
Speaker 3: basically just showed up and seemed like a really aloof asshole.
Speaker 3: At one point, he like takes his gum out and
Speaker 3: sticks it on Dave's desk and stuff like that, and Dave,
Speaker 3: Dave handles it incredibly well. He just has no time
Speaker 3: for people doing dumb shit like that. So Dave just
Speaker 3: been the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. I don't see what Keen is being easy
Speaker 2: to work with. I don't know if Philip Seymour Hoffin
Speaker 2: was either.
Speaker 1: Though excuses it. If they're good actors, do you think
Speaker 1: that that gives them, like, you know, the right where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, their performance was so good, it's
Speaker 1: understandable that they were a huge prick to work with
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Know, I I I think if you asked me this
Speaker 2: ten years ago, I was said, like, of course, it's
Speaker 2: all it's all for the arts. Same but like it
Speaker 2: years ago New York was it the New Yorker article
Speaker 2: that uh interviewing?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that god yeah.
Speaker 2: But my favorite quote from that was when for like
Speaker 2: a supporting quote, they asked Brian Cox. They're like, they're like, so,
Speaker 2: like you get into the you're you're a very well
Speaker 2: known actor on the stage and on you know, the
Speaker 2: big screen and on television shows, you're you you seem
Speaker 2: to like embody your actors. How do you go home
Speaker 2: at night after pretending to be someone that well all
Speaker 2: days like it's called acting, and they use that quote
Speaker 2: in the same story that is basically a profile of
Speaker 2: Jeremy Strong. Jeremy Strong like he by all accounts, sounded
Speaker 2: like he's he not just the show's he's shooting, but
Speaker 2: it sounds like someone like him takes everything in his
Speaker 2: life too seriously.
Speaker 3: He would be completely inseparate. I think that he's a
Speaker 3: great example of like the worst of the worst, sounding
Speaker 3: you know, like I just fucked.
Speaker 2: That guy, and then like, but no, it's sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was gonna say at the end of
Speaker 3: that Letterman interview it was just great because the whole
Speaker 3: time walking Panks is just on another planet, and at
Speaker 3: the end, Letterman just wraps it up by being like, well,
Speaker 3: walking and I'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually really good. Good Letterman to be able
Speaker 1: to be that fast. I was thinking this was years ago,
Speaker 1: but I actually have this like vivid memory of a
Speaker 1: weird walking in Phoenix interview on like a red carpet
Speaker 1: and a random person is asking him an interview question
Speaker 1: and he can't focus and he's talking about the fact
Speaker 1: that there is a sensation of a frog in his hair.
Speaker 3: That sounds like the shit he was doing during that,
Speaker 3: Like it was just like maybe like seven eight something.
Speaker 2: Like that cosmic gumbo of seventy.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's like really out of his rocker, and I
Speaker 1: think he says something like I'm worried about the sensation
Speaker 1: of my brain being eaten by a frog, and then
Speaker 1: he like walks away, and the person on the mic
Speaker 1: is like what and that's it. And I remember being
Speaker 1: like that guy's on acid. But I never really thought
Speaker 1: too much into it. I always just kind of assumed
Speaker 1: that celebrities are always on drugs because if I was
Speaker 1: on a red carpet, I would probably do drugs too.
Speaker 2: No, I would not, No, I would be drink.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine being in a red car were being
Speaker 3: interviewed and stuff on drugs.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see how, because sometimes the questions that
Speaker 1: you are asked are silly and mundane and meant to
Speaker 1: elicit a response, and I think that would just exhaust me.
Speaker 1: I don't think I I could do a press tour
Speaker 1: at the end of a movie. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would want to be asked like my favorite Muppet and
Speaker 1: then like have like a serious space, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I made a movie about a war. I don't want this.
Speaker 3: Don't ask me about Fozzy.
Speaker 2: Was awful. We wanted to pay tributes everything that happened there.
Speaker 2: My fucking favorite ice clean ice cream flavors, Rocky Road, like,
Speaker 2: let's move on, well, you want to go up.
Speaker 3: There was one where you know, obviously Tom Cruise sucks
Speaker 3: in his own special way and everything, but there was
Speaker 3: one red carpet moment where it's like, man, he really
Speaker 3: handled it well where it was like the interviewer was
Speaker 3: trying to do some prank thing where it's like he's
Speaker 3: it's one of the things where he's like, you know,
Speaker 3: go in person to person doing little interviews in the
Speaker 3: red carpet, and he walks up for this guy to
Speaker 3: give him an interview, and the guy's like hey Tom,
Speaker 3: and then like squirts him in the face with like
Speaker 3: he had like a I don't know if it's like
Speaker 3: a clown flower or the microphone was gimmicked to spray
Speaker 3: water something. I think it might have been the microphone
Speaker 3: spraying with water and Tom Cruise like just like grab
Speaker 3: some microes, what do you do?
Speaker 2: Why? Why would you do that? Why?
Speaker 3: Why would you do that. I'm going into this thing,
Speaker 3: I'm coming over here to give you an interview, and
Speaker 3: you're gonna pull something like he like lectures the guy
Speaker 3: in a way that's like, oh, I would like a child. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would feel like if I was that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd rather Tom Cruise gets pissed and tries to
Speaker 2: fight you. That'd be a better story then what the
Speaker 2: person was going to Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, people wanted to clip whers look at crazy
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I was gonna say. Amanda's also been
Speaker 2: uh more open to watching horror movies lately, so Friday
Speaker 2: night finally showed her get Out, and then I told
Speaker 2: her there was a few scenes in Weapons that I
Speaker 2: thought might actually scare her, because get Out is scary
Speaker 2: in its own way. I remember telling her. I was like,
Speaker 2: I think it's it's not going to be truly scary
Speaker 2: because you're white, but like that's kind of the point
Speaker 2: of the movie. So then we watched Weapons the next day.
Speaker 1: I think scary. Yeah, they're both scary Weapons.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of scenes Amanda really doesn't love clowns,
Speaker 2: and certain parts and weapons kind of present as clown
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anythingcause if people haven't seen
Speaker 2: that movie, they still should. But like she liked them
Speaker 2: both quite a bit. And every time I watch Weapons,
Speaker 2: I think I've seen it three times now, I think
Speaker 2: I like it more, which is crazy because of the
Speaker 2: way it's structured like that Raschaman, it works for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really Saturday. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if I appreciated that the first time I
Speaker 1: saw it either, But I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: really brilliantly laid out and it's almost I bet it's
Speaker 1: more fun, Mike to watch it with someone who hasn't
Speaker 1: watched it, is you know what's going down and why
Speaker 1: and they don't yet, And I think that's that's probably
Speaker 1: like a very fascinating way to look at the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun because I had a really good theater
Speaker 2: audience for that movie the first time I saw it,
Speaker 2: so I was curious if Amanda was going to react
Speaker 2: to it the same way that we all kind of did.
Speaker 2: And there's definitely certain parts that just elicit a bit
Speaker 2: of like Catharsis and laughing in that movie, because that
Speaker 2: movie is really funny in many places, especially at one
Speaker 2: particular part where Amanda was also like cackling laughing, but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: she loved get Out as well. Get Out so awesome.
Speaker 2: I don't have a spe for us. I like that
Speaker 2: a lot. I don't like us all that much.
Speaker 3: There's ideas in both, Like I think they're all good movies,
Speaker 3: but I do think it was kind of diminishing returns.
Speaker 3: I'm still very interested in anything he does. I mean, yeah, great,
Speaker 3: but like get Out was definitely my favorite. You're talking
Speaker 3: like backlog stuff. I am finally tackling the Sopranos. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that walked with Bonk, who is like from there.
Speaker 2: Podcast the Sopranos cast.
Speaker 3: Did you know the Sopranos is a good TV show?
Speaker 2: Oh? I I okay. There's actually an email question later
Speaker 2: kind of about this. I don't always give people the
Speaker 2: hard sell on mad Men, which is one of my
Speaker 2: it's tied for for shows, and I've been talking to
Speaker 2: Bank about that as well. But the Sopranos. Every time
Speaker 2: someone tells me I haven't seen it, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be annoying. I'm gonna tell you watch it. I
Speaker 2: promise it. There's a reason every but he talks about it.
Speaker 2: It is. I think it like it's like The Godfather.
Speaker 2: You go your whole life hearing how good it is.
Speaker 2: But even if you haven't seen it The Godfather, I
Speaker 2: like to think when you finally watch it, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I get it for.
Speaker 3: The first time with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like The Sopranos similarly, like there are some
Speaker 2: bad episodes in that show in my opinion, but like
Speaker 2: overall still incredible. And it's funny that during COVID it
Speaker 2: took off again with like the younger generations. I think
Speaker 2: they reacted. I think there's a bit of Catharsis there
Speaker 2: as well for them, in the sense that like, this
Speaker 2: is a group of people who brought ideas from the
Speaker 2: old world which are pretty bad and almost evil in
Speaker 2: many places, but like they were doing it as a
Speaker 2: result of the authorities not really protecting them and the
Speaker 2: economy sucking for immigrants, and now I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people are like, oh shit, this is so this
Speaker 2: is like them. Their excuse for a lot of the
Speaker 2: shit they do is they're taking things in their own
Speaker 2: hands because the police aren't going to help them.
Speaker 3: So like you know, you know earlier about me not
Speaker 3: getting messages or deeper meaning and stuff.
Speaker 2: I didn't catch any of that. I oh, I watched
Speaker 2: this show every year, but also like this is that's
Speaker 2: the Also like by the end of the show, I
Speaker 2: think a lot of those things become more apparent, like
Speaker 2: they literally talk about it. But how far are you?
Speaker 3: I'm three episodes? I'm good, Mary. Have you seen Sopranos?
Speaker 1: I've seen the first season like three times, and then
Speaker 1: I always fall off and there's this is not a
Speaker 1: knock on the Sopranos. I just think it's a really
Speaker 1: long show, and I usually am like what else is
Speaker 1: what else? And then I end up fading. There's no reason,
Speaker 1: I have no.
Speaker 3: Excuse to me. This is a lot like my relationship
Speaker 3: with the Wire, where it's like I heard about it
Speaker 3: for so many years and then I started kind of
Speaker 3: watching in college and it was like I was doing
Speaker 3: it while I was doing other stuff, or I was
Speaker 3: on my laptop and had it on in the background
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 3: a cop show whatever. And it wasn't until I finally
Speaker 3: like sat down. I was like, I am making a
Speaker 3: point to watch the show that I have, and it's
Speaker 3: like I did the same thing. I watched a little
Speaker 3: bit of Sopranos. I got season one on DVD in college,
Speaker 3: and I watched a couple of seasons, but in like
Speaker 3: the background, and so I didn't really have any pre
Speaker 3: siation for it. And now like Bank and I are
Speaker 3: sitting down and watching it, and it's like, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is making all the difference in the world.
Speaker 2: Like, this is a tremendous show.
Speaker 3: You said your three episodes in Yeah, and I've in
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, I've gotten up to the
Speaker 3: college one like or whatever. So like I I've seen
Speaker 3: these first few a few times, but this is the
Speaker 3: most like we're actually paying attention to and talking about it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, let me ask of course, you know the
Speaker 3: theme song. Now this is crazy to me because this
Speaker 3: is the thing I've thought for thirty years or however
Speaker 3: long it's been on almost thirty years. And then Leo
Speaker 3: Vader posted something, uh like the day after I had
Speaker 3: this conversation with BNK. I always thought in the theme song,
Speaker 3: there's the part where he goes game about it. You
Speaker 3: know that part, and it won't and.
Speaker 1: The theme song, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm always sends.
Speaker 3: A feeling shaved my body. It's going to shave my body,
Speaker 3: save yourself or uh no, no, shame about it is
Speaker 3: what it is. Yeah, yeah, I've never heard shaved ninety nine,
Speaker 3: so weird a song where the guy just goes, shaved
Speaker 3: my body.
Speaker 2: Weird.
Speaker 3: Falk I was like, why does he say he shaved
Speaker 3: my body? And the next fucking day Leo posted like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's it's shaved my body, right, they said shave my girl.
Speaker 2: It's not just me.
Speaker 3: It's like we'd timing too, but no, it turns out
Speaker 3: it's a shame about it.
Speaker 1: I love when that happens with a song where you
Speaker 1: hear it incorrectly and then you actually can't unhear it,
Speaker 1: and it's becomes this thing that like when now when
Speaker 1: you hear that song, it's all messed up. When I
Speaker 1: was growing up, my sister and I, there was a
Speaker 1: song I.
Speaker 3: Think it was by Lit, Uh steal my sunshine?
Speaker 1: No, my own worst enemy? That song where you're just
Speaker 1: like it is despriad to me. I am my own
Speaker 1: worst enemy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: What what I did?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Lynn, steal my sunshine?
Speaker 2: I understood you should be shame. I understood the confusion,
Speaker 2: but the thought of Lit singing steal my sunshine so fight.
Speaker 2: They're very very different like taking Back Sunday Emo band.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means either, surprised me.
Speaker 3: Punk kids, Charlotte and Ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a good Charlotte s Okay, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: My sister always heard that lyric and said, uh, because
Speaker 1: every now and then a kick the living ship happy,
Speaker 1: and she thought that they say shit happy, which doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. The lyric is ship out of me,
Speaker 1: living out of me. But because we both grow up
Speaker 1: grew up singing shit happy when I do hear that song,
Speaker 1: which isn't I actually do like that song. When I
Speaker 1: hear that song, I'm always if I hear it on
Speaker 1: the radio or wherever, I'll be like, I sing shit
Speaker 1: happy because that's the version I know. I wonder like
Speaker 1: when you hear it, you're just like ship my body.
Speaker 2: Shap my body. It's the weird lyric. Yeah, I still
Speaker 2: do that for like new songs I'm hearing that I
Speaker 2: love like I don't. I don't actually know the you
Speaker 2: think I know every word Rocky Road to Dublin when
Speaker 2: I see it in Center. Oh, we rewatched Centers last
Speaker 2: weekend as well.
Speaker 1: That's a horror movie. Yeah, and she accepts that one too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I mean it's Michael B. Jordan's. She'll
Speaker 2: she'll deal with anything to see him, particularly scary. I
Speaker 2: like Nicky Glacier, Nicky Glai. Yeah. Yeah, but Michael Jordan
Speaker 2: plays twin brothers in this movie, which made me Nicky
Speaker 2: b Jerkin or something like that. Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's Sopranos. I I love that show. I try
Speaker 2: to rewatch it like once a year. But it's an
Speaker 2: undertaking for sure. And yeah, it's funny, like like if
Speaker 2: I were to call an uber to the neighborhood whore
Speaker 2: Bank grew up, I would drive past several shooting locations from.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've gone past Satin Dolls, which was the
Speaker 3: bottom end club a million times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's funny. Like my buddy who lives in
Speaker 2: West Orange now he does like a tour of the
Speaker 2: area for people who are coming, not not like a
Speaker 2: paid to her friends, and he'll show the different shooting locations,
Speaker 2: the scuba store that Polly's outside the beginning of an
Speaker 2: episode still there. I'm not I'm saying this to you, Dan.
Speaker 2: This is for people listening, Like Gloria's house is also there.
Speaker 2: It's actually the like gatehouse to a bigger mansion wedding venue.
Speaker 2: It's just really cool to live semi close by it
Speaker 2: all that now.
Speaker 3: But it's interesting having like, you know, I watched some
Speaker 3: in college when I just had I'd never been to
Speaker 3: New York City, i had never you know, like it
Speaker 3: was just just a totally foreign concept everything going on
Speaker 3: in the Sopranos. And now I've lived in Jersey for
Speaker 3: a few months when we were moving out to the
Speaker 3: East Coast. You know, I've been out there a million.
Speaker 3: I've spent a lot of time, specifically in like North Jersey,
Speaker 3: where most that show takes place. And so now it's
Speaker 3: like I hear these characters talk, and I hear the accents,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I've met a lot of people
Speaker 3: that talk exactly like this, you know. So there will
Speaker 3: be like a Polly Walnuts line or something, and I'll
Speaker 3: turn a bother and that's your dad, that's what your dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for you to get there's a
Speaker 2: few episodes in there that I'm really excited to hear
Speaker 2: your thoughts on. Have you seen college? Yeah, okay, gotcha,
Speaker 2: that's that's an all timer. But there's like, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've heard of the Pine Barrens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, Mike. I think Mike Manatty might have
Speaker 3: spoiled that for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh it's it's like a Cohen Brothers movie
Speaker 2: in mid miniature. Well, he spoiled it for me.
Speaker 3: Even though Mike Manatty won't watch The Sopranos because he
Speaker 3: said the mob is mean and he doesn't like seeing
Speaker 3: mean stuff in movies.
Speaker 2: He spoiled the episode. I don't even know how you'd spoil.
Speaker 3: It because he was talking about like I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say what he said specifically, but he was just
Speaker 3: talking about, like I can't watch the Sopranos. They do
Speaker 3: mean stuff, like there was that one where this happens,
Speaker 3: and there's the one I know they do this thing
Speaker 3: to that person. And it's just like he's saying, you
Speaker 3: won't watch it because of the mean things, and so
Speaker 3: I know about a mean thing that happens.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that episode is full of them though, So
Speaker 2: I don't curious. I'll ask you off off, Mike, but
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're liking it. But yeah, I was talking
Speaker 2: a bank too, because now with mad Men on HBO,
Speaker 2: I think that's having a resurgence as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've sat down with her a few times just
Speaker 3: at the same deck. Well she's been watching that and
Speaker 3: you know, just through osmosis, seeing a bit of it,
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, there's something about the pace of mad
Speaker 3: Men that I just could never really.
Speaker 2: Do you know, Yeah, so slow, it's slow. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is the show that like more than the Sopranos
Speaker 2: or The Wire, which are very like I think, verb heavy,
Speaker 2: and there's still a lot going on into the surface.
Speaker 2: I think mad Men is really relies on the stuff
Speaker 2: going on on the surface, and that that's why I
Speaker 2: don't push that show all the time, because if the
Speaker 2: pace doesn't work for you, I can't like.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't like the characters, and it's just
Speaker 3: like I don't know, like I can I can recognize
Speaker 3: it's clearly a very well made show, but just nothing
Speaker 3: about it makes me want to watch it.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: If you are looking for like a faster pace, you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get into Naruto.
Speaker 2: It is just action packed.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe how much these kids go through. I'm
Speaker 1: constantly almost dying.
Speaker 2: I believe you, it's so good.
Speaker 1: I'm still down with Rudo. I also started an you
Speaker 1: anime which I know neither of you guys will watch.
Speaker 1: Best not to talk to you about it.
Speaker 2: It's not anime.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're anti anime. I think you'll be
Speaker 1: anti this anime. It's called high School of the Dead. Actually, Mike,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I could sell this on you. It is
Speaker 1: uh so, it's zombies attack a high school. So all
Speaker 1: these high school students are like navigating what would happen
Speaker 1: if the entire world was like completely transformed, and now
Speaker 1: there's a zombie outbreak and you have to deal with it.
Speaker 1: And they show a lot of students dying in the
Speaker 1: first episode, like immediately, like all these kids are like
Speaker 1: fucking dying in front of everybody. But the fan service
Speaker 1: is outrageous.
Speaker 2: Let me stop.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question there, because I have
Speaker 3: used that phrase before fan service. I did it on
Speaker 3: John Bomb East podcast once and I talked about something
Speaker 3: like I used it in the phrase of like there's
Speaker 3: a lot of fan service in terms of just like
Speaker 3: references in winking at like hay your eggs, Easter eggs,
Speaker 3: and like like a thing doing a lot like a
Speaker 3: New Star Wars show doing a lot of callbacks to
Speaker 3: the original trilogy or something like that. That was my
Speaker 3: seeing a fan service and I were abby was like,
Speaker 3: wait what, I didn't know. There's a bunch of like
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of DNA and whatever. I was talking
Speaker 3: about P and A.
Speaker 2: What are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about references and stuff like.
Speaker 1: In anime, fan service means paying tribute to the horny
Speaker 1: boys and having like.
Speaker 3: Boys watch anime.
Speaker 1: They love it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't track to me, they love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. I guess it depends. A fan
Speaker 1: service in a Star Wars is very different than fan
Speaker 1: service in an anime, But in anime, fan service means
Speaker 1: heavily like suggestive upskirts and shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah people, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. It's there's this like iconic scene where
Speaker 1: they're shooting a really high caliber rifle at zombies and
Speaker 1: the recoil is making these boobies like ripple, that's that's
Speaker 1: funny and yeah, and it's it's it is so vivid.
Speaker 1: They're like it's in slow mo and she's like no,
Speaker 1: and as they shoot it, it just goes into slow moost
Speaker 1: so she's like no, and you see the ripple of
Speaker 1: the boob go all the way through the nipple to
Speaker 1: the other boob. It's so amazing watching this.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: And then this one, this one's for you, Mike. And
Speaker 1: then there's a shot where he shoots a bullet through
Speaker 1: that same gun and one of the other girls she's
Speaker 1: fighting a zombie, right, so she's in the limelight. She's
Speaker 1: like in the line of the shot of the bullet,
Speaker 1: and she does a sick backflip and as she does
Speaker 1: the backflip, her boobies cross and the bullet goes in
Speaker 1: between the boobies as they flow, and it misses both
Speaker 1: boobies and then hits a zombie in the head. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I just crazy.
Speaker 2: Thought of someone like staying after work one of the
Speaker 2: animators like fucking Taco Bell and half drunk like Baja blasts,
Speaker 2: just working to make sure the boob gap is perfect
Speaker 2: for the fifty round, which was really moved. Thereous really
Speaker 2: need to do. I know people are jaying it to
Speaker 2: that stuff like I'm sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's what this is. It's like, that's
Speaker 1: what fan service I suppose is doing. Is it's like
Speaker 1: this ability to have and it is a good show.
Speaker 1: I think it's really entertaining and really interesting, and it
Speaker 1: just has these vivid shots. I just have to be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I basically have these like reactions of
Speaker 1: like I can't believe they did that. But at this
Speaker 1: point I can't really be shocked at anything because it's
Speaker 1: so claringly obvious. But I'll have to see if I
Speaker 1: can find like a gift or something of the Booby one,
Speaker 1: because it was one of the ones where I was like,
Speaker 1: that is absolutely outrageously well done. Like it's so it's
Speaker 1: so blunt and obvious, but it's also like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: someone animated that, someone put a lot of energy in
Speaker 1: that and made sure that it worked.
Speaker 3: It's like in the middle of an action scene where
Speaker 3: they're all shooting and stuff, are people just expected to
Speaker 3: like drop their trousers and just whack off real quick?
Speaker 3: Like if it's just like a it's like not a
Speaker 3: sex scene, right, they're racing against the SCD get.
Speaker 2: Done real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I found a gift of it. Can I
Speaker 1: share it with you?
Speaker 2: Guys? I'm going to get put on a list.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get put on a list.
Speaker 3: Oh god, Okay, here it is. There's a bullet, there's
Speaker 3: a what that's that's stupid. That's very fucking stupid. That's
Speaker 3: so fucking dumb.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I love it. Are things slow and
Speaker 2: then they're like.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It's so shocking.
Speaker 2: Like a scissor motion with the boot. This is dumb.
Speaker 4: They are supposedly in high school and moving so fast
Speaker 4: for that bullet past one and then they just which
Speaker 4: figure eight and then it goes past another one.
Speaker 3: Is it supposed to be ridiculous or like funny or.
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's humor, it's silly, a lot of violence.
Speaker 1: It's also very violent. It's also very serious in the
Speaker 1: sense like you know, their friends are dying, like their
Speaker 1: loved ones are dying, So serious elements to it. But
Speaker 1: I would say more than not. This is like cheeky
Speaker 1: and funny action and like hyper sexual and like the
Speaker 1: weirdest ways. And this is a good example of like
Speaker 1: that is such a strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's over the top on purpose.
Speaker 1: It's over the top intentionally. And I was laughing during
Speaker 1: these scenes. I could not get over how funny they were.
Speaker 2: But it looks like a Roman ruin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're in the they're in Japan, like
Speaker 1: in the city now, and so like a lot of
Speaker 1: it because it's been taken over by zombies. It's no
Speaker 1: longer inhabitable, and so you're probably I think they're like
Speaker 1: in a what do you call that, like a waterway.
Speaker 2: Or something like that, that's a viaduct or something.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this because I know all these shows have
Speaker 3: like nine thousand episodes, so like, is this sit down
Speaker 3: paying attention or is this like steam deck and it's
Speaker 3: not on the pack.
Speaker 1: I usually have a steam deck, but I'll put it
Speaker 1: down for the booby scenes.
Speaker 2: I think you need you need both hands for the
Speaker 2: booby scenes.
Speaker 1: You need you need all the concentration. When there's an
Speaker 1: action shot, I think it's I probably missed some of
Speaker 1: them because of the steam deck action. But to me,
Speaker 1: same thing with Naruto. There's usually filler episodes. So an anime,
Speaker 1: it's like really standard that after a heavy action scene,
Speaker 1: just because the animators put a lot of energy in
Speaker 1: these action sequences, they need a filler episode. This is
Speaker 1: an episode where they have almost no animation and the
Speaker 1: characters talk to each other and one of them maybe
Speaker 1: flirts with another one and they get like all flush
Speaker 1: and I go and they go, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you said that to me. And that's an
Speaker 1: entire episode, and so I can be steam decking during that.
Speaker 1: That is a waste of my time. I'll listen to
Speaker 1: it kind of and like do it. But when I
Speaker 1: hear someone be like let's fight, I put the steam
Speaker 1: deck down and I watch the action sequences. There are
Speaker 1: animes where they specifically cut out all of the filler episodes,
Speaker 1: and I don't do that that steam deck time.
Speaker 3: That's what we did per dragon Ball because they did
Speaker 3: the dragon Ball Z. And then there was Kai, which
Speaker 3: was like just cutting out the part where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Goku and Piccolo or getting their driver's license or whatever,
Speaker 3: and cut that stuff, and I think that's an actual episode.
Speaker 1: That's really funny. Yeah, Kai is. It's kind of important.
Speaker 1: Like if if I were to recommend an anime, I
Speaker 1: would definitely be like, watch the shortened versions or even
Speaker 1: look up a guide. You can look up a guide
Speaker 1: to Naruto that will prevent you from watching six episodes
Speaker 1: of them walking to town, and like that's it. It's
Speaker 1: just like you don't need all you don't need that.
Speaker 1: That's obviously filler and it can make people leave the show,
Speaker 1: but for me, I use that as like really excellent
Speaker 1: gaming time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am braced for anime and because Gershon and
Speaker 3: I are about to start up all systems Goku again,
Speaker 3: and it's like but like, since we're doing a podcast
Speaker 3: about it, like I'm paying attention, I'm taking notes and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I think I think we're gonna
Speaker 3: do the original one, the original run of dragon Ball
Speaker 3: with like no you know, like filler episodes at all.
Speaker 2: Is wow?
Speaker 3: The plans So yeah.
Speaker 1: Well there's some fan service in that one. So in
Speaker 1: Joe Dragonball, there's a little bit really oh yeah dragon
Speaker 1: Ball there, that one I think is I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just a classic. What else can you say? But I
Speaker 1: mean I would I would die to have you guys
Speaker 1: watch one episode of High School of the Dead and
Speaker 1: like react to how absurd it is. It's just so
Speaker 1: it's so ridiculous and it knows what it is to
Speaker 1: an insane degree. And the character designs. You'll see so
Speaker 1: many characters you'll be like that girl, their boobs are
Speaker 1: too big, and I'm very open about all boobs. I'll
Speaker 1: be like, that is unnecessary. You have made this character's
Speaker 1: boob too big and they cannot walk, they cannot run,
Speaker 1: they cannot do anything because you have made their boobs
Speaker 1: so big.
Speaker 2: But they can make a mean apple pie.
Speaker 1: They can. In this anime, they're the nurse and so
Speaker 1: they're like, can I help you? I are trying to
Speaker 1: stitch people up, But she just has like Triple F's
Speaker 1: and she looks ridiculous.
Speaker 2: She just gets in the way during surgery.
Speaker 1: Ever be a doctor with those.
Speaker 2: We started the pit speaking of surgery. Yeah, yes, episode
Speaker 2: a very different show eat Triple F and Surgery.
Speaker 1: I'm on season two, so I've seen season one. I
Speaker 1: won't spoil it for you, but I actually thought it
Speaker 1: was absolutely phenomenal and I'm really excited to hear what
Speaker 1: you think. The only thing that it's like is hard
Speaker 1: about it is after a long, stressful day, is very
Speaker 1: difficult to recommend someone this show because it is so RESTful,
Speaker 1: and it is very vivid of the scenes of people
Speaker 1: getting hurt and so somebody has a bone sticking out.
Speaker 1: They show it.
Speaker 2: Oh, they show.
Speaker 1: All of it.
Speaker 2: They show how to do plenty of very invasive medical procedures,
Speaker 2: not howitorialize.
Speaker 3: But like, is it supposedly like pretty accurate.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it looks real.
Speaker 1: They say so, like I think they're always taking liberties.
Speaker 1: But when when they're saying this is probably like every
Speaker 1: medical show, but you know, they'll be like, this person's
Speaker 1: bleeding out and they'll be like, you just need to
Speaker 1: flip the lung upside down and that'll stop it. And
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, I don't know about that, but
Speaker 1: like I do think there are other elements where maybe
Speaker 1: something will pop out of socket and they will show
Speaker 1: vividly how to put a bone back into socket and
Speaker 1: someone who's like bleeding out, and I think that's pretty fucking.
Speaker 3: Cool and combat X ray. But like in reverse where
Speaker 3: it's like fixing the bone.
Speaker 2: Someone gets her de gloved from the like knee down
Speaker 2: in the first episode. Is that what that means? You
Speaker 2: loved loved basically more deeper than skin. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: just her leg is just nerves and veins and that's
Speaker 2: no good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a conception is disgusting. Is that what
Speaker 1: happened to Jimmy Kimmel's wearing his wedding ring? I get
Speaker 1: them mixed up because they're the same guy. His ring
Speaker 1: Stark and something and it rips his finger skin off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you should not get I forget what
Speaker 2: metal is titanium married. Wanna talk about video games? All right? Dan?
Speaker 2: I have to ask right off the bat. I see
Speaker 2: you're playing Securo. Are you doing it the weekly thing?
Speaker 2: Hour a week for stream? Are you like playing playing now? I?
Speaker 3: Uh, it's too good. And I also think that like
Speaker 3: the muscle memory and things like that, I don't want
Speaker 3: to wait a week between sessions with it. So like
Speaker 3: I've just dreamed a bunch of sessions at like two
Speaker 3: plus hours a time, like every almost every other day
Speaker 3: or so, like several times a week since I started out.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm glad you're doing that, because that would
Speaker 2: be a rough way to play that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, remind me, do you beat this?
Speaker 2: Yes? Nice?
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that that's good to hear because I'm so
Speaker 3: intimidated by it. But like I did just get past
Speaker 3: a really big skill check from what people told me.
Speaker 3: And they told me if I could beat this Cane
Speaker 3: Tiro guy, that I could beat the game. And I did,
Speaker 3: and it took like better part of two hours of
Speaker 3: like fighting him over and over and over and over again,
Speaker 3: and three phases of this fight, and the introduced this
Speaker 3: crazy mechanic just in the third phase. But man, it's
Speaker 3: like the feeling I had when I beat him was
Speaker 3: like it's I can only compare it to like when
Speaker 3: I beat my tyson for the first time, you know,
Speaker 3: where it's like this huge thing that you overcome that
Speaker 3: just takes just a genuine amount of skill. You can't
Speaker 3: just kind of match with this stuff. You have to
Speaker 3: learn this stuff and learn this attacks, and then like
Speaker 3: when you have that moment, it's just like fuck, that's
Speaker 3: just like this is what video games are all about,
Speaker 3: you know. So I just continue to adore this game.
Speaker 2: Also, like the level design. The environments are amazing too,
Speaker 2: Like the little sandboxes you could if you're playing stealthily
Speaker 2: and trying to clear out a horde, if you pick
Speaker 2: off enemies from a horde before you go in and
Speaker 2: fully fight them, yeah sorry, mob, not horde. That you
Speaker 2: could do that, And like, you know, like the verticality
Speaker 2: of the grappling hook and everything kind of gives you
Speaker 2: that option, which I appreciate that because in many of
Speaker 2: the Frumsoft games it's harder to go in and kind
Speaker 2: of whittle away at the crowd before you fully dive
Speaker 2: in there. This wee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was an area. There's an area that had like,
Speaker 3: you know, seven normal sized dudes and like two big
Speaker 3: dudes with hammers and stuff that I was at recently,
Speaker 3: and like, you know, it's a lot if you go
Speaker 3: in there and they're all going to be swinging at you,
Speaker 3: and no matter how good you are at Perry's, you're
Speaker 3: not going to hit them all with like them all
Speaker 3: gang up on you. And then it's like, okay, wait,
Speaker 3: I can go underneath this building here, and then I
Speaker 3: can kind of get out this fence here and I
Speaker 3: can stab this guy ooh, and I can hop down
Speaker 3: and kill this guy here. I can throw the ceramic
Speaker 3: shard here and make him go over there. And like
Speaker 3: I've never been great at stealth, but like it's really
Speaker 3: elegant in this game. And like once you just started
Speaker 3: kind of like you said, yeah, the verticality, You're like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit on this free branch here and then
Speaker 3: I'll be able to pop down on this guy go
Speaker 3: over Like it it works and it makes you feel
Speaker 3: awesome when you're able to do it with stealth. And
Speaker 3: it also makes you feel awesome if you go in
Speaker 3: and you fight him head on, and it's just that
Speaker 3: game is just nothing but like incredible gameplay moment after
Speaker 3: incredible gameplay moment.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there's some bosses later on. I'm excited
Speaker 2: for you to see.
Speaker 3: I thought the night guy on the bridge, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a fun one. That was like I had
Speaker 3: a gimmick to killing him, which was funny.
Speaker 1: It's also beautiful, isn't it. Like it's it's stunningly gorgeous.
Speaker 1: The sequences that they put in lots of like the
Speaker 1: fall and the leaves and stuff like that. I just
Speaker 1: think it's a very pretty game. I found it so stressful.
Speaker 1: I have not beaten Sakio. I think I think I
Speaker 1: probably quit like halfway through. I just think I was like,
Speaker 1: this game is too hard for me. But I did
Speaker 1: really I loved what I played of it.
Speaker 3: And how many times is there that thing where you
Speaker 3: reach a mini boss or boss or sex and it's
Speaker 3: just like the first two or three times, I think
Speaker 3: this might be it. I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be able to do this. And then you just keep
Speaker 3: trying and trying and trying, and your brain just keeps
Speaker 3: learning and learning and learning and knowing when to predict
Speaker 3: certain things, and then you beat it and you feel
Speaker 3: awesome and rinse and repeat over and over. Like not bad,
Speaker 3: especially like this big like as.
Speaker 2: Well designed.
Speaker 4: Well Mary Mary press away.
Speaker 1: Dan is right one that to be banned.
Speaker 2: Sorry I could not. That was a low hang.
Speaker 3: No, the run backs are great because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I defended it in Silk Song because I I didn't
Speaker 3: think it was ever that bad really, but I would
Speaker 3: be pissed off if, like before this gan T fight,
Speaker 3: which I did over and over and over again, if
Speaker 3: I did had to do a bunch of horse shit
Speaker 3: to get up there, you know, that would have annoyed me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, there is something they're not having the
Speaker 3: run back for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The also, like it's the Cantiro fight is just
Speaker 2: unreal for it. I think the game literally tests you.
Speaker 2: It makes sure at that point that you legitimately know
Speaker 2: how to do everything as that character, because there's not
Speaker 2: a single encounter like knowing when to jump as opposed
Speaker 2: to countering and when to dodge as opposed to jumping.
Speaker 2: Like it's it's incredible, really really good boss fight, but
Speaker 2: there's stuff later on. I think Jake. Jake definitely has
Speaker 2: beaten the game more than I have. I believe he
Speaker 2: likes it quite a bit. But it's funny. Everybody has
Speaker 2: that one boss that just gives them a lot of
Speaker 2: trouble comparatively, and I have one in that game. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen it yet. No, okay, it's like a midway boss.
Speaker 2: Definitely anothers but you might find it. You might be like,
Speaker 2: oh that was yours? Like that? I found that really easy.
Speaker 2: There's just certain types of bosses I always have difficulty
Speaker 2: with in from soft games. But when you when, I'll
Speaker 2: check it again next episode and I'll know if you
Speaker 2: have fought him yet.
Speaker 3: I'm about to fight the monkey, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay? And I know the gammick with them, gotcha?
Speaker 1: I remember the monkey.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you've you've You've made it pretty damn
Speaker 3: fart then nyeah, under the monkey.
Speaker 2: I feel like I might yeah, yeah, that might have been.
Speaker 1: That might have been who did it for me? And
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: That might have been. That might be almost halfway, might
Speaker 2: as well be halfway, I guess. Yeah. Okay, Ish, what
Speaker 2: are you like twenty five hours in or something?
Speaker 3: I'm like fifteen I want to say, uh yeah, but
Speaker 3: I looked at like a long play, and I looked
Speaker 3: at where I was, and I'm like halfway on the timeline.
Speaker 2: Basically, I love that game. It's that was. If it
Speaker 2: wasn't for Outer Wilds, I would have been my favorite
Speaker 2: game of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3: It's just interesting how that stuff happens where It's like,
Speaker 3: especially with certain outlets where it's like there are just
Speaker 3: always blind spots and stuff where like I don't remember
Speaker 3: this being talked about much of Giant Bomb back then,
Speaker 3: you know, so Hidden Gem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Dan.
Speaker 3: Well, like like this year Yota was one that I
Speaker 3: was the only one that played it at Giant Bomb,
Speaker 3: and like it's just interesting.
Speaker 1: You'd think someone there would be like really stoked about
Speaker 1: a game like Yota. That's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean that's always the case with any
Speaker 3: outlet I think where it's just like okay, yeah we
Speaker 3: got X amount of people and just no one really
Speaker 3: played this one this year.
Speaker 1: You know, It's still interesting though, because that's like a
Speaker 1: major one. It's like sometimes I wonder though, when you're
Speaker 1: playing games all the time, you're like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: replay Banjo KAZUOI and we don't have time to play
Speaker 1: this from soft can.
Speaker 3: Look Mike Nadia played Virtuos over the three d O
Speaker 3: right now and it's impair.
Speaker 1: We're booked and busy.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Started Resident Evil nine.
Speaker 2: Did you play that? I did not.
Speaker 3: Jan did and we put up a video. I did
Speaker 3: not watch it because I don't want to. I want
Speaker 3: to go in pretty blind. But like just hearing Jan
Speaker 3: talk about it, like, oh man, I'm in a Resident
Speaker 3: Evil mood right now.
Speaker 2: I don't even like I'm not. I'm trying not to
Speaker 2: even read about it. I know. The big thing news
Speaker 2: that was came out a couple weeks so that it's
Speaker 2: like open world or like sort of open world SAMBARTI.
Speaker 1: But they did that in previous ones kind of.
Speaker 2: This is yeah, that's what I said, and then people
Speaker 2: were like, no, this is you know, this is more
Speaker 2: open world kind of interesting, yeah, or at least like
Speaker 2: open that. I was like, yeah, The Evil Within two
Speaker 2: sort of did that as well, like several open worlds
Speaker 2: in that game, and I like that.
Speaker 1: I liked that and Evil Within I think it's nice
Speaker 1: to give you a little bit of choice as long
Speaker 1: as you generally know what you're supposed to do. I
Speaker 1: just don't like it when I'm like, no, I'm just lost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, modern R games are so good with maps, you know,
Speaker 3: like RI two remake and four. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not worried if it is more open. I'm sure
Speaker 3: they'll be pretty good about that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll be good. But apparently enemies are on.
Speaker 2: Like what did I see? I think Jesse Vittelli had
Speaker 2: done a quick like Instagram.
Speaker 3: Video for I saw that on idea of the butcher
Speaker 3: and stuff where you're standing in one spot and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the AI is on more of like a Hitman
Speaker 2: kind of clock where they're actually going about doing more
Speaker 2: believable things or not just like waiting at that one
Speaker 2: fireplace until you walk in. Mm hmm. That's pretty enticing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Is the most excited I've been for Resne Evels since
Speaker 3: maybe four.
Speaker 2: Four remake.
Speaker 3: I had four or four, I think in terms of
Speaker 3: his excitement levels and like, like, I got excited for all
Speaker 3: the new ones.
Speaker 1: But the one where they uh is seven, the one
Speaker 1: with the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, seven, I was excited for eight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think seven had some real excitement built up once
Speaker 1: people realized that the dad did different things based on
Speaker 1: where you were. I think that's so sick, like he
Speaker 1: would kind of bust through different walls based on where
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 3: But I think there's also my mind gpticism, like leading
Speaker 3: up to seven, because it's like we're coming off of
Speaker 3: six would suck to ass and it's like, okay, we're yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like we're doing some new stuff.
Speaker 1: A real donker. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So like the stock was not high, so it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: we're doing first person. It's just like, okay, we'll see
Speaker 3: hopefully this is good. But like the hype factor wasn't
Speaker 3: as there, and like now it's like we're coming off
Speaker 3: of two numbered ones that were good, too, great, great,
Speaker 3: you know, I would say I would say Village was
Speaker 3: very good and seven was excellent, and like so I
Speaker 3: think nine and everything they've shown of nine just seems
Speaker 3: like everything I like out of resioneval games, you know,
Speaker 3: the action of the poor, you know, the more kind
Speaker 3: of like the survival horror stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I liked seven quite a bit for doing the
Speaker 2: like Texas Chainsaw, Maascar Vibe, rural horror. Eight did more
Speaker 2: gothic Dracula inspired horror. I'm not as psyched to go
Speaker 2: back to Raccoon City again. I feel like I've seen
Speaker 2: all I need to see of Raccoon City like that,
Speaker 2: I think there are six games set there that I played.
Speaker 2: I've if they could squeeze more out of it, awesome,
Speaker 2: But I think.
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna I prefer a setting that is a
Speaker 3: relatable like, oh, this is like an American city. I
Speaker 3: think I'll always find that more interesting than like a
Speaker 3: gothic fantasy thing or you know, like I mean seven
Speaker 3: was set in just like rural South, you know, but
Speaker 3: like I don't know, just like a city that seems relatable,
Speaker 3: you know. I think that's that's my favorite type of setting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, and I like that
Speaker 2: it's the first time since well seven had two playable characters,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like interchangeable. It was a gimmicks section. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but eight had eight did too, But it's way at
Speaker 2: the end you play. But this is when you can
Speaker 2: actually go back to the old school, like choose which
Speaker 2: one to play first, as which is exciting? Is it
Speaker 2: choosing to play first or is it like a reason? Oh?
Speaker 2: Is it interweaving, like.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm not positive how it works. If
Speaker 3: it's like interset moment like now your grace or whatever, or.
Speaker 2: Is it like an old school one where it's like
Speaker 2: playing as Leon first will change it for when you
Speaker 2: play as.
Speaker 3: I think it's one campaign. But again, I've kind of
Speaker 3: been avoiding most stuff about herself.
Speaker 2: Yeahana Wan, Yeah, OK, Mary, what have you been playing.
Speaker 1: I've been playing a couple of things, but the one
Speaker 1: that I'm most excited to talk to you about is Mio.
Speaker 1: This game was recommended to me by multiple people, which
Speaker 1: is so awesome when that happens, when people are like,
Speaker 1: I think this is for you. Uh, they were right.
Speaker 1: This is a metroid vania. Uh it is. It is
Speaker 1: between Hollow Night and Or for me. It has the
Speaker 1: difficulty curve of a Hollow Night, but I think that
Speaker 1: it is kinder and it is more is easier for
Speaker 1: people to understand and adapt to. And I like the
Speaker 1: Or comparison because it's in a fantastically beautiful world where
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like this weird, little floaty creature
Speaker 1: and it really plays on the platforming mechanics of how
Speaker 1: floaty and how delicate you can be in these absolute
Speaker 1: brutal platforming spaces. But it is. It is awesome. A
Speaker 1: couple things that I really like about it. It's challenging,
Speaker 1: but again it's not frustrating. These boss fights are absolutely learnable.
Speaker 1: You will figure them out. Each boss fight that I
Speaker 1: have encountered, I've been like, holy shit, this guy beat
Speaker 1: my ass, and then within like thirty minutes, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know this guy's skills. I know exactly what to
Speaker 1: do here. I can get through it. There's no contact damage,
Speaker 1: so you can get right up in a boss's face
Speaker 1: and unless it attacks you, no damage. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: that about this game.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: It has a currency that you lose when you die,
Speaker 1: and you do not go to get it back. It's
Speaker 1: gone when you die, it's gone. But here's what I
Speaker 1: like about it. There are different areas in the game
Speaker 1: where you can harden your currency into an item that
Speaker 1: you don't lose when you die.
Speaker 2: Yes, but you don't you don't pay like a backpack
Speaker 2: and Escape from Tarkov.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of course, just like Escape from Duckov. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know you love Escape from Duckov.
Speaker 2: I like that game.
Speaker 1: Actually, so the currency system, it feels like it's you
Speaker 1: don't get too frustrated. I've definitely lost my my currency before.
Speaker 1: I forget what it's called, doesn't really matter. It's like
Speaker 1: shape hard money. You pick it up from fallen enemies
Speaker 1: or from the dead that you occur. You know, you
Speaker 1: you like find along the way, but you want to
Speaker 1: harden it and then you buy upgrades with it. The
Speaker 1: upgrade system is also sick and very hollow night It
Speaker 1: is a badge based system. But think you're a machine,
Speaker 1: so you have to implant these different pieces, but you
Speaker 1: only have so much hardware like hardware like, you can
Speaker 1: only accept so many pieces at once, and they're all
Speaker 1: worth different amounts. And so I gave up being able
Speaker 1: to see my own health to being so that I
Speaker 1: could see the enemy's health. I gave up scraping more
Speaker 1: money from each enemy so that I could do a
Speaker 1: better final move of my triple move. And so my
Speaker 1: third move on my combo does like way more damage.
Speaker 1: Now I just added one. I think this one's really fun.
Speaker 1: I have one now that all of the health upgrade
Speaker 1: spaces cost nothing, and I have that one on so
Speaker 1: that when I'm doing a platforming section, I can just
Speaker 1: heal without spending a dime. I can heal all the
Speaker 1: time and do these like really brutal platforming sections. And
Speaker 1: then when I'm going to get to a boss, I
Speaker 1: take that off because I don't need it anymore, and
Speaker 1: I put on something that as I take more damage,
Speaker 1: I do more damage. And so I'm constantly changing my
Speaker 1: system out based on the environment that it's put me in.
Speaker 1: A Couple more things I just like wanted to quickly
Speaker 1: bring up. I think it's stunning. The background environments look
Speaker 1: and drawn and almost like hand painted, but you are
Speaker 1: very mechanical, so it's half looks like natural environment half
Speaker 1: mechanical robot, which I think is a beautiful way to
Speaker 1: do it. There's a city that is covered in ice
Speaker 1: that I just found that I think is so stunningly
Speaker 1: beautiful and I can't wait to figure out more of it.
Speaker 1: And again, I think the platforming is phenomenal. I keep
Speaker 1: learning new moves. God I want to dash, but right
Speaker 1: now I have like a double jump while jumping, a
Speaker 1: floaty move. I mean, I've found all these really good
Speaker 1: moves that have completely blown this game out of the
Speaker 1: water for me. I mean, this is my number one
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is good the game the
Speaker 1: only game I want to play right now.
Speaker 3: You're selling me on this because, like I had heard
Speaker 3: some rumblings of gime Bomb, and I believe Chuck was
Speaker 3: playing it and enjoying it, and but I think the
Speaker 3: thing that scared me off was like he said, it
Speaker 3: was a really slow start, I want to say, and
Speaker 3: I just like, I like mentored Banias, but I hate
Speaker 3: slow starts, and so I think I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm interested. And then I heard that and I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm not so how bad is the intro?
Speaker 1: I found it really quick? And I think what's interesting
Speaker 1: to me is that I needed a fill in for
Speaker 1: bowling this week, and the guy who bowled on our
Speaker 1: team also was playing MEO and he was like, wasn't
Speaker 1: it cool when you found this boss? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I haven't found that boss and he was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you have this item, right, and I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't have that item. And we're both five hours in.
Speaker 1: We went opposite directions. It's very possible that the experience
Speaker 1: that you have and the experience that the other person
Speaker 1: who's played this had very different experiences playing it. Sounds
Speaker 1: like you can level yourself up in a totally different order,
Speaker 1: which I think is great. So it's maybe not a
Speaker 1: great answer for you. But what I will say is
Speaker 1: I found a boss almost immediately. This game is chalk
Speaker 1: full of secrets hidden Heidi holes, nooks and crannies, and
Speaker 1: so if he missed them, he might have just been
Speaker 1: doing like a long section of nothing. Now, whereas I
Speaker 1: found a boss within like five.
Speaker 3: Minutes, I think I'm fine with like gameplay, slow start,
Speaker 3: like I'm fine with like the build up to getting
Speaker 3: I just don't want to like, and then then the
Speaker 3: king was evil, and then you got to kill the
Speaker 3: king like I just don't want to like textboxes for
Speaker 3: six hours.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Remember that either. I felt like it was pretty dewey. Okay,
Speaker 1: I will say, I will say, okay, it has an
Speaker 1: interesting I will I will acknowledge that this has a
Speaker 1: really odd start. But I fell in love with it.
Speaker 1: Which is it starts to du with like little lines
Speaker 1: and dots, and it goes back to it multiple times
Speaker 1: to teach you new moves in a new environment. That's
Speaker 1: very simplified. I'll try to explain it. But like the
Speaker 1: very first time you get uh, there's a Oh, you
Speaker 1: can hit something to get your jump back, right, this
Speaker 1: is a common upgrade, right, Yes, you hit something in
Speaker 1: mid air and all of a sudden you get your
Speaker 1: jump back and now you can travel a little further.
Speaker 1: It takes you out of the game. It puts you
Speaker 1: into this two D environment that's very simple. It's it's
Speaker 1: got stunning audio. It's so simple, and it pairs everything
Speaker 1: down and it goes now, you're just going to learn
Speaker 1: this skill. We're going to give you six challenges to
Speaker 1: learn this skill to make sure you learn it, and
Speaker 1: then we'll throw you back into the game. The game
Speaker 1: starts in that mode, and so when you start you
Speaker 1: might be like, what is this? But by the sixth time,
Speaker 1: not even by like the third time, you're getting your upgrade.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh sick, this is my learning a skill mode.
Speaker 1: And then you get to play the game. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's what threw him off. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: can think of. I'm about the game visually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm narrative a slow start.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of narrative mumbo jumbo. But you
Speaker 1: just you know, you look at your watch. Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't have to read I was like really surprised. I
Speaker 1: will also say, after that opener, whatever it is, there's
Speaker 1: like no story at all. Like every once in a
Speaker 1: while you'll run across a robot and he'll be like
Speaker 1: the city used to be big, it's dead now, and
Speaker 1: I'll be like okay, and then I go fight six bosses.
Speaker 1: I haven't bogged down with text at all. I've really
Speaker 1: loved it again, like the floatiness. Oh there's ice in
Speaker 1: a lot of these areas, and I'm slipping and sliding
Speaker 1: all over the place. Like the enemy design is pretty fun.
Speaker 1: In several of the areas I've been fighting, like just
Speaker 1: really cool mechanical animals. You know, different robots that maybe
Speaker 1: look like hummingbirds or they look like spiders, and they're Oh,
Speaker 1: there's one that looks like a chameleon and he literally
Speaker 1: hides into the walls and so you won't see him
Speaker 1: unless you're really paying attention, he'll get you. It's just
Speaker 1: a fun little game. I really do think it's I
Speaker 1: hope more people talk about it. I think it is
Speaker 1: a fantastic platformer. So for someone who's like really interested
Speaker 1: in platforming, this is a good platformer game with some
Speaker 1: good boss fights. I'm liking a the one.
Speaker 3: I got some flights coming up for sure that I
Speaker 3: made some stuff for so I'll make sure this is
Speaker 3: like on the steam deck.
Speaker 2: Before someone point.
Speaker 1: Planning on the steam deck, it's a steam deck game
Speaker 1: faue show. I don't think it's perfect, Like there's some
Speaker 1: things that like I haven't I haven't been super in
Speaker 1: love with. And I do think it's it. There are
Speaker 1: some pain points around, like sometimes I don't know where
Speaker 1: the hell I'm going, and a lot of places it'll
Speaker 1: just be like you can't go in there, and so
Speaker 1: I'll have to repeat. I repeated a space like twice
Speaker 1: looking for secrets, and I finally found one and realized,
Speaker 1: you know, I had missed something. So that can be
Speaker 1: a little frustrating.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm curious. That sounds cool.
Speaker 2: They're like two point five d S five, so it
Speaker 2: kind of remind me of Bloodstained. The art specifically, this
Speaker 2: is more sci fi. It looks like futuristic, but it
Speaker 2: does remind me a bit of Bloodstained. How they use that,
Speaker 2: I don't even know what engine that would have been, but.
Speaker 1: I agree, and it's it's cool to see people play
Speaker 1: with this style. I appreciate that connection because the two
Speaker 1: D three D is the biggest crossover here. They look
Speaker 1: very different. But what you're essentially saying is like your
Speaker 1: character looks very different than the background, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like it should work, but it does.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, the camera's not completely tracking your character.
Speaker 2: It's actually pulled out and kind of like tilted in
Speaker 2: to look at them from certain angles. So you can
Speaker 2: actually see the sides of some geometry environment, which can
Speaker 2: look ugly in some games, but I think when it's
Speaker 2: done well, it's attractive. Yeah, Dan, you played a round
Speaker 2: of High Guard, the multiplayer game.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about her.
Speaker 3: Tell us that's what I hear. Yeah, is Mary? Is
Speaker 3: it mostly All I know is that people are talking
Speaker 3: about it. Is it mostly bad or mostly good or mixed?
Speaker 1: I think that I don't think this will color your
Speaker 1: opinion at all. I think it is mostly bad and
Speaker 1: it is and it is so volatile that if you
Speaker 1: like it, I feel like gamers will come for you.
Speaker 2: It's weird. I think that's.
Speaker 1: Still enronments for people. But I have not heard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a tough launch. Is the vibes that I'm
Speaker 1: getting from this game? So what was your experience.
Speaker 3: Uh it's one of those games that a lot of
Speaker 3: online multiplayer games seem to be these days to me,
Speaker 3: which is in the genre of Okay, uh, spend the
Speaker 3: first few minutes of the round doing a bunch of
Speaker 3: boring chores and then something changes and then you go
Speaker 3: die and then you.
Speaker 2: Wait to do it again.
Speaker 3: Uh so I yeah, no, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I very quickly was like I just don't get like,
Speaker 3: even like good ones and these like this, this is
Speaker 3: well made. Like when I was doing the tutorial, I
Speaker 3: was like, this looks good, this feels good. I like
Speaker 3: shooting these guns. I like it's got a you know,
Speaker 3: like I love the feel of like Apex in titan Fall,
Speaker 3: like I like, you know, I know a lot of
Speaker 3: there's a through line of certain developers there, but like
Speaker 3: I love titan Fall cause I don't know, the campaign
Speaker 3: was great and two and then the multiplayer gimmick was
Speaker 3: simple and worked where it's like, all right, you're these
Speaker 3: pilots and these titans. It's multiplayer. It's it's pretty understandable.
Speaker 3: And then like Apex was like, okay, it's this weird,
Speaker 3: like I'm never going to play online with people really,
Speaker 3: so like I don't like that you always have to
Speaker 3: be in three person squads, and it was just like
Speaker 3: kind of confusing, and it was like they're pubg in Fortnite.
Speaker 3: I got into those because that's pretty straightforward. You drop
Speaker 3: onto a thing, you try to survive as long as
Speaker 3: you can. I like that Apex. I recognized it was
Speaker 3: well made, but it's like I don't there's just too
Speaker 3: much stuff going on here and this is like way
Speaker 3: worse than that, where it's just like, Okay, I guess
Speaker 3: at the first phase, I need to put up reinforcing
Speaker 3: walls on this building, and I don't really know why
Speaker 3: or where. I'm sure there's a reason to. I mean,
Speaker 3: if I played more, I'm sure I would learn what
Speaker 3: I was doing. But like when it's not fun at
Speaker 3: all to start out, I don't feel incentivized to keep going.
Speaker 3: So like you've enforce all these walls and then you
Speaker 3: go out and you're just like harvesting crystals, and then
Speaker 3: I guess you can buy stuff from vendors, and then
Speaker 3: it's like capture the flag for a little bit, and
Speaker 3: then once you bring a shield breaker's sword to someone's dome,
Speaker 3: it breaks their dome open. Then you can try to
Speaker 3: breach walls, and then it turns into like a search
Speaker 3: and destroy a thing where there's a and it it's
Speaker 3: just like I I knew I was gonna hate it
Speaker 3: once the tutorial kept going and going and going. It's like,
Speaker 3: all right, you had me at the beginning when it
Speaker 3: looked good and it felt good to play, and then
Speaker 3: it's like you just keep explaining more and more shit,
Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, I'm done.
Speaker 2: I don't I have no interest in It's like a
Speaker 2: personal thing.
Speaker 3: Obviously shit like that's kind of popular now, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just the thing that makes me feel like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this has never been my thing, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Think it should work. Like I love the idea of
Speaker 1: mixing the magic and the bullets and everything, like did
Speaker 1: you get to play as multiple people? Like how how
Speaker 1: much did you play?
Speaker 3: I like around basically, and then I bailed on it
Speaker 3: pretty quick. But it's like it's not even just like
Speaker 3: like I was a big Twisted Metal fan and in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve they brought it back and I was like,
Speaker 3: fuck yeah, PlayStation three Twisted Metal. And then they did
Speaker 3: this E three presentation where it was like okay, so
Speaker 3: this is our our Marquis mode where it's a multiplayer
Speaker 3: online where it's like, okay, you got to go around
Speaker 3: and you got to like drag these clowns behind your car,
Speaker 3: and you got to load the clowns into a cannon,
Speaker 3: and then you shoot the clowns at this like hiju
Speaker 3: clown and then it's just like it's like whoa, whoa,
Speaker 3: we we had it, we had it. We just cars
Speaker 3: drive around and blow each other up. It doesn't need
Speaker 3: to be much more complicated than that. And I just
Speaker 3: don't like the over complication of things. I like simpler objectives.
Speaker 3: You know. It's why something like Doda or League I
Speaker 3: see that or I hear it explain, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this seems like the most miserable fucking.
Speaker 2: Thing I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 3: And it seems like a lot of that shit has permeated,
Speaker 3: like FPS and other genres and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: whenever I see it, I'm out.
Speaker 2: I'm out.
Speaker 3: It's like, I know some people like it. I just
Speaker 3: it's Mike. Mike is an anathema. Anathema. Yeah yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. To me, it's I just fucking hate it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I got out real quick. I don't know
Speaker 3: if other people are liking what it sounds like. They're
Speaker 3: maybe not, but uh yeah, not for me.
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like my thing either. I like a straightforward,
Speaker 2: simple I like complex shooters, but like I like deep shooters.
Speaker 2: This sounds like more that. Like they're trying to go
Speaker 2: like broad wide, a lot of rules, a lot of
Speaker 2: different objectives like Rainbow six Siege, like get in, plant
Speaker 2: a bomb at one of these two sites in a
Speaker 2: close quarter space, or kill everybody. Yeah, Mike, you you
Speaker 2: had to do that over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: You had a real period with Siege, and you got
Speaker 3: me playing some and I did like some Siege, like
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was going to. But like, that's
Speaker 3: the thing with Siege is that the objective was simple enough.
Speaker 3: The complexity and the stuff you can really get good
Speaker 3: at is through learning the different operators and their skills
Speaker 3: and the way they can play off each other and
Speaker 3: things like that. And I think that's cool. It's like
Speaker 3: you're winding like Soul Caliber, like you want to get
Speaker 3: in there and match buttons, You're gonna have a good time,
Speaker 3: play good fighting game, or if you want to go
Speaker 3: in there and spend five hundred hours and all these tutorials,
Speaker 3: you know, like learning everyone's combos and everything, like, you
Speaker 3: can enjoy it on several different levels where I don't know,
Speaker 3: like a mobile type thing or something like There's it
Speaker 3: feels like you have to be a specific type of
Speaker 3: person who plays a specific type of way to enjoy it,
Speaker 3: and I just don't find that stuff accessible or fun.
Speaker 2: You know. The objective of chess is very simple. Yeah,
Speaker 2: each of the different pieces has many, many layers and complexities.
Speaker 2: Like I think the best games, like the rule sets
Speaker 2: are pretty easily explainable quickly. It's the more like the depth,
Speaker 2: the more you repeat and play it, the death comes out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 3: Every board game is like that now. Every time I
Speaker 3: feel like I've ever sat down to play a board game,
Speaker 3: it's like it's not fucking guess who anymore. It's just like,
Speaker 3: all right, you have six super tokens and three minor tokens,
Speaker 3: and you are able and tell you're good, and then
Speaker 3: you if you flip this crystal to its left side,
Speaker 3: then it's this, but if it's December, then you're a Gemini.
Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't.
Speaker 2: I have a certain person who listens to this podcast,
Speaker 2: it's my wife will hear this and she'll know exactly
Speaker 2: who I'm talking about. But we both know someone. You know.
Speaker 2: Like a few months ago, we were staying with them
Speaker 2: at their place and they're like, so, do you want
Speaker 2: like a really in depth board game or do you
Speaker 2: want to do something? I was like, we just like,
Speaker 2: you know, we took trains to get here. We want
Speaker 2: something relaxed, have a few ture total totally. So they
Speaker 2: bring out like three options and they're walking us through
Speaker 2: the options and I'm like, oh, sorry, we said we
Speaker 2: wanted the simple ones. He's like, oh these are I was.
Speaker 3: Board game people under. I think they've got lost and
Speaker 3: I know when.
Speaker 2: You love something, and like, these people also don't get
Speaker 2: a ton of chances to play like board games with
Speaker 2: people who appreciate games. So like I was like, all right, game.
Speaker 1: People love bringing out the board game.
Speaker 2: It's I get it. It's like their board games are
Speaker 2: my like super interesting bottles of bougeleet that you probably
Speaker 2: I've gotten my thing too, but oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 2: board game people. I applaud them because I I can't
Speaker 2: do it every time. I'm up for the coffee in
Speaker 2: the morning when I have the day to learn something
Speaker 2: and that's all we're doing. But like late at night,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, guys, like Checkers would be fine right now,
Speaker 2: that would be great because respect for it.
Speaker 1: There's so many good ones, and you have to be
Speaker 1: open to them, right Like you could find your next
Speaker 1: favorite game through one of these things. You just have
Speaker 1: to be, to Mike's point, in the right head space.
Speaker 1: I have been tricked before. I think Wingspan is great,
Speaker 1: So this is not a I don't like Wingspan. I
Speaker 1: just want to say that I feel like there are
Speaker 1: probably mothers out there that were disappointed when they were
Speaker 1: like excited to play a board game about birds and
Speaker 1: then found out that there were four hundred rules. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just thought it was cool to have eggs way eggs,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, shit, this is extreme. This
Speaker 1: is way more complicated than I was prepared for.
Speaker 3: That's another example. It's like these are all like good,
Speaker 3: these aren't like like a lot of these things are
Speaker 3: good and they're popular for a reason. But like Wingspan,
Speaker 3: I heard everyone talking about it and I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, oh, and a lot of people should just that.
Speaker 2: It's me.
Speaker 3: It's like oh me and bonk.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll play like it is good. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: great game. Yeah, and we bought it and we did
Speaker 3: some one on one with it and stuff. But it's
Speaker 3: like most of the time it's just like, okay, So
Speaker 3: then if you are in the swamp, you can do
Speaker 3: this type of bran and if you have this bird,
Speaker 3: it can if you have six eggs, then it can
Speaker 3: land on the shoulders of a grass bird. And it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, it's just I code names. It's wavelength.
Speaker 1: Like these are like Wavelength is good.
Speaker 3: I like games where it's like you got a party together.
Speaker 3: There's six people that want to squirrel away into this
Speaker 3: room or whatever. It takes fucking four minutes, and then
Speaker 3: the game is about talking and having a fun like
Speaker 3: social time, and like Wavelength is like debating about like
Speaker 3: you know, like having a conversation with something and not
Speaker 3: just like dealing with a million chotch keys and shit,
Speaker 3: you know, and rules like that drives me insane.
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. Someone gave me Wavelength
Speaker 1: as a gift and it is my number one when
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh I need something to do with six people.
Speaker 1: To Wavelength is great. You're gonna have a good time,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have fun, And I don't think it's stresses well,
Speaker 1: actually it will stress people out when they have to
Speaker 1: choose what the thing is. Yeah, but if yeah, if
Speaker 1: people were like I want a board game and I
Speaker 1: want something different and I haven't played a board game
Speaker 1: since Apples to Apples, I would say Wavelength is the
Speaker 1: number one easy. It's not so easy, but it's it's
Speaker 1: easy gaming. Yeah, you have to be able to read.
Speaker 3: Well, Like, how the fuck did Dungeons and Dragons ever
Speaker 3: get popular at all? Because it seems like the most
Speaker 3: complicated thing on the planet.
Speaker 1: Weirds, but.
Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons, like similarly, is more just a vehicle
Speaker 2: for people to tell a comedicals story.
Speaker 3: There are books of like, well, here's the six chapters
Speaker 3: about what the dexterity number means if you roll like
Speaker 3: it is. Every time I've sat down, it just seems
Speaker 3: like the most complicated thing ever. And I have no
Speaker 3: idea how people hYP parties and get togethers where it's
Speaker 3: like this is what we do, Like you you know
Speaker 3: five people who know how this works.
Speaker 2: How the fuck did you meet that well that they
Speaker 2: took the time as a group to get to know
Speaker 2: it and like they have a good DM. Like there's
Speaker 2: a difference between like playing. People have parties where the
Speaker 2: objective of the party is to play that game, whereas
Speaker 2: wavelength is something that you can bust out on a
Speaker 2: whim at a party and people.
Speaker 1: Want to here like uncle that you don't really know
Speaker 1: super well, but like you want to be able to
Speaker 1: have with them.
Speaker 2: Aunt Nancy, how to play Dungeons and Dragons.
Speaker 3: When I think of a party, I think a lot
Speaker 3: of people of just different Like, you know, if I
Speaker 3: have a party here, people who don't play video games period,
Speaker 3: you know, where it's like I can't imagine having a
Speaker 3: party where it could be confident enough to be like, hey,
Speaker 3: all of you, let's come play Dungeons and Dragons. You
Speaker 3: all know how that works.
Speaker 1: Do not play Dungeons and Dragons. No one does that.
Speaker 2: No one does that. They have planned nights where they
Speaker 2: are like, hey, let's play Dungeons and Dragons on like
Speaker 2: on Tuesday nights. And there are a group that knows how.
Speaker 1: To play Dungeons and Dragons.
Speaker 2: What's more comparable party and says like who knows how
Speaker 2: to play it? Here? That's my point is that they're
Speaker 2: very different kinds of game dedicated to games. My point
Speaker 2: which was refuting you.
Speaker 3: Don't, I just I am standing firm in the fact
Speaker 3: that I think Dungeons and Dragons is the most confusing
Speaker 3: and weird thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 2: It's kind of.
Speaker 3: Flat down and apparently I played it with like world
Speaker 3: class caliber dms and stuff where everyone's like, oh, you
Speaker 3: play with like like Austin Walker is supposed to be
Speaker 3: tremendous at it, and I believe them, but like I've
Speaker 3: played with him, and it's just like every time do
Speaker 3: I what does this mean? How do I do? What
Speaker 3: do I do?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Oh, I just make the Like I just don't understand
Speaker 3: what the point of it is. I don't understand how
Speaker 3: to win. I don't understand how you can play with
Speaker 3: no board and sometimes there's a board, and then there's
Speaker 3: a company that makes it. But it's also just a
Speaker 3: loose cloud of ideas, Like none of it makes any
Speaker 3: fucking sense. How does just the exist If it's just
Speaker 3: like you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: It's improv the game. It's an engine for communal storytelling.
Speaker 2: I don't think the objective is to win is to
Speaker 2: tell this long form story together to what happens. Someone like,
Speaker 2: why are you watching the Sopranos, because you don't win
Speaker 2: by watching the game. But the show, I know, But
Speaker 2: like the point is it's you're seeing it's.
Speaker 1: The show.
Speaker 3: Or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's like cinematic and explorative. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like acting out of play.
Speaker 3: Yes, they go to your local theater and audition.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can stare you. You're one of the biggest dorkiest
Speaker 1: nerds out there. Stare you hat on.
Speaker 2: This giant fucking nerd. It's not you are stupid thing.
Speaker 1: It's not stupid, you're ignorant.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is That is what I was getting toward.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's domb and no one should like it.
Speaker 5: Dan, listen, this is your this is your snow is plastic.
Speaker 5: You are embarrassing yourself and someone is going to clip
Speaker 5: you and say that this moron doesn't.
Speaker 1: Know about this world. And there a long time your
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory and you were gonna You've embarrassed yourself.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for all the people who like getting around
Speaker 3: and pretending they're playing a game with rules when it's
Speaker 3: just weird and fantasy Lord of the Rings time. But
Speaker 3: it's just it's nonsense.
Speaker 1: Mike. You're playing Shadow, gambit, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: I know. I was about to do the thing where
Speaker 2: I point out to Dan that wrestling has a lot
Speaker 2: of the same aspects, but let's skip. That sucks now.
Speaker 1: Too, Okay, well you're kind of suck.
Speaker 2: Oh hear that. Yeah, I've been playing Shadow, But again,
Speaker 2: I talked about it last episode. That game is still incredible.
Speaker 2: It still makes me said that, Mimi, me games are
Speaker 2: gone incredible. Isometric, top down stealth game, really creative characters.
Speaker 2: I'm unlocking characters in a very different order than I
Speaker 2: did the first time I played it, which is cool
Speaker 2: that you could do that. Similar to Wild Bastards. You
Speaker 2: guys played that, you know how the first the first
Speaker 2: that game, the first run, you unlock the characters at
Speaker 2: a certain order and then it becomes randomized. This one,
Speaker 2: you unlock the same there's the main character who is
Speaker 2: the navigator, but then after that you can revive these
Speaker 2: undead pirates in any order you want. For the most part,
Speaker 2: there's a few point points where they're like you have
Speaker 2: to pick from this pool. But it's playing really differently
Speaker 2: with these different character and playing on a higher difficulty.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: There's different ones. What do you mean, Shadow Gambit, Cursed Cruse,
Speaker 1: Shadow Gambit, Yuki's wish, Shadow.
Speaker 2: Gambit, Curse Crew is the game the latter two? You
Speaker 2: mentioned our DLCs with new.
Speaker 1: Characters, Okay, thank you and missions?
Speaker 2: Yeah, incredible game. I think I said this last time.
Speaker 2: But if you're someone who really likes first person immersive
Speaker 2: sims like Dishonored or Prey, or you played h Dark
Speaker 2: Messiah way back in the day or Thief, I this
Speaker 2: is essentially kind of an immersive sim. Definitely more heavily
Speaker 2: stealth focused than a lot of those where you can
Speaker 2: be stealthy, but it's an option. This one's very much
Speaker 2: about stealth and uh, but it's you know, top down isometric,
Speaker 2: incredible maps, vibrant locales, some some fun character writing. It
Speaker 2: ever gets in the way halts the momentum with the
Speaker 2: game though, also just kind of a puzzle game really
Speaker 2: like it's it's less immersiontive, more like a puzzle stealth game.
Speaker 2: But I say immersive sim because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: ways you can interact with the environment and approach objectives differently. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd recommend it to either of you.
Speaker 2: It's then I think it's too stealth focused for you.
Speaker 2: Very same thing. I don't think you like stealth games
Speaker 2: all that much.
Speaker 1: I struggle with stealth, but sometimes I can get into it.
Speaker 1: But I this looks very I'm like looking at the
Speaker 1: gameplay and it's got the cone of vision everywhere, so
Speaker 1: it looks like it's very stealth focused.
Speaker 2: No, it's awesome. I love it. Yeah, me me, me games.
Speaker 2: They put out the two DLCs for it, and then
Speaker 2: they're basically like, we're fucking tired because they made Desperados three,
Speaker 2: which is incredible, and Shadow Tactics, which was feudal Japan
Speaker 2: and you had like a ninja and a sniper. That
Speaker 2: was the first that was also good, one of my
Speaker 2: one of the biggest bummers of a studio closure, although
Speaker 2: it was self imposed. I still wish they were making
Speaker 2: another game of some sort. Don't know where they are now,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's mainly what I've been playing. I've been
Speaker 2: playing stuff for work that I can talk about in
Speaker 2: a few months or something. Probably that's been most of
Speaker 2: my time. So more on that. I guess down the road.
Speaker 2: But Mary, you played other stuff beside MEO, right, I
Speaker 2: have a couple quick ones.
Speaker 1: One I played a game called Deepest Sword, which I
Speaker 1: was thinking, Dan, when you do Blake Club, Like, what
Speaker 1: if the game is really quick, like twenty minutes, would
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 3: Like you have something called Blightning Round where that is
Speaker 3: like done in one episode, which was what Mike. I'm
Speaker 3: not he was supposed to do with this current game,
Speaker 3: but I picked one that's probably gonna take him like
Speaker 3: eight hours.
Speaker 1: So oh that's funny. Y Well, I think I have
Speaker 1: like a mini one for you, and it's the Deepest Sword.
Speaker 1: This game is free, which I love. I always love,
Speaker 1: like Hawk in a nice free game. You can tell
Speaker 1: this is like maybe like this is like an early
Speaker 1: on dev cycle game. This is not meant to be
Speaker 1: like a full on adventure, but it's we've got a
Speaker 1: really cool premise. You're a night you need to kill
Speaker 1: a dragon, and your sword is not big enough to
Speaker 1: get to the heart of the dragon, and so every
Speaker 1: time they make your sword a little longer. But that
Speaker 1: makes you have to navigate the space completely differently because
Speaker 1: now you can't fit. Also, your character can't jump. This
Speaker 1: is kind of important, so you have to use the
Speaker 1: sword to climb or to navigate a space. And by
Speaker 1: the time you get to the end, and don't look
Speaker 1: it up, because again, this game isn't very long. It's
Speaker 1: like a basically it's like a free demo, but it's
Speaker 1: like as you get through it, the sword gets so long.
Speaker 1: You have to do these like totally wacky things in
Speaker 1: order to beat this game. And I actually really liked
Speaker 1: it and thought it was very fun. But the first
Speaker 1: time I realized how stuck I was with this giant sword,
Speaker 1: I was like laughing at myself. I think it's a
Speaker 1: cute little gimmick.
Speaker 3: Every image I see is just this dragon with the
Speaker 3: dude on his back trying to get the sword in there.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is a bit horny, I will admit to you. Well,
Speaker 1: it is the euphemism, right.
Speaker 2: Sword.
Speaker 1: And the I know there's a bit of fan service
Speaker 1: with you with the dragon, because when you put your
Speaker 1: sword in the dragon, the dragon will say like is
Speaker 1: it even in? And then it'll flight you up, and
Speaker 1: then you get a longer sword because eventually you need
Speaker 1: to get the longest sword to the deepest sword to
Speaker 1: get it in.
Speaker 2: To kill the dragon euphemism some short I got the
Speaker 2: fucking and I'm just looking at the pretty clear I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the clip at the I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: clip and it looks like at the beginning, right after
Speaker 2: you press the stark key at the menu, the first
Speaker 2: dude is like venture deep into the cavern of longing. God,
Speaker 2: I am an idiot.
Speaker 3: I would have it would not have even like registered
Speaker 3: for me that that was a sex thing.
Speaker 2: Along the dragon lies ahead resolve, Yeah, oh god, it's
Speaker 2: almost like, what do you want to call it?
Speaker 1: It's a bit literal.
Speaker 2: One of the games called where like climbing a hill
Speaker 2: or whatever. Celeste, no, oh, the Benefatti stuff, fadi in Yeah,
Speaker 2: almost the movement sort of is it even in? And yes,
Speaker 2: she's given sex eyes, for sure.
Speaker 1: She's given sex eyes, but you can ignore that. What
Speaker 1: I think I would say is like, I think it
Speaker 1: is a genuinely cool mechanic that you need your sword
Speaker 1: in order to jump and traverse the space. But as
Speaker 1: your sword gets longer, it also becomes a hindrance. It
Speaker 1: gets to a point where it's like this sword is
Speaker 1: actually so annoying and now I'm stuck, and so it
Speaker 1: has it has buttons to reset your character because you
Speaker 1: will get stuck an environment with your sword. I found
Speaker 1: it frustrating and yet enjoyable, and it I just thought
Speaker 1: maybe it could be like a good blight experience to
Speaker 1: try and get through this game in about twenty thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: It's very frustrating.
Speaker 3: Wow, that was sure, But it is. It's not a demo, right,
Speaker 3: It's fully released.
Speaker 1: It's a game. It's a still game. I just I
Speaker 1: feel like it was kind of like a game jam
Speaker 1: game gotcha, Okay, if that makes sense. It's it's a released,
Speaker 1: free to play a game. The next one was a
Speaker 1: Big Hops. I think you recommended this for me, Dan,
Speaker 1: So I did download it and play it, and I
Speaker 1: liked it. I haven't beaten it yet. I've started playing Meo,
Speaker 1: and I think that's like now that I've now that
Speaker 1: I've tasted Meo, it's like, Okay, this is a different world.
Speaker 1: But like what you said about Big Hops is still true.
Speaker 1: It's a fun, lighthearted platformer. It has it has some
Speaker 1: weird physics you can like, it's just a little janky.
Speaker 1: I die a lot in the stupidest ways that I
Speaker 1: think the game is like just slightly broken it is
Speaker 1: so cute and colorful and adorable, and I love the
Speaker 1: mechanics of unlocking locks with my tongue. They're like tiny
Speaker 1: little puzzles that are like BioShock puzzles, but you use
Speaker 1: your tongue to crack the code. It's sweet. Have you
Speaker 1: gone to the park where there's ropes and you use
Speaker 1: this goo and it connects two areas with a rope.
Speaker 3: You must be further in me because I don't think
Speaker 3: I've seen any lock puzzles or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's it's a really neat thing that they've done to
Speaker 1: open the game up. So there's uh, they've had all
Speaker 1: these different I know you've seen them and they're like
Speaker 1: mushrooms and they let you jump, or they've had this, uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It goes up. And now you have
Speaker 1: a climbing vines so you can get yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now there's a new one and it's it's like
Speaker 1: a googball and when you when you throw it, a
Speaker 1: rope automatically connects to spaces and so they'll throw you
Speaker 1: in a cavern with absolutely no way to get out
Speaker 1: and give you a bunch of gooballs. And so I'm
Speaker 1: making rope nets to climb out. It's kind of cool
Speaker 1: you can make them the way you want to. I
Speaker 1: think it's neat. I think like, if I hadn't just
Speaker 1: played Meo, I'd be like, what a great platformer for
Speaker 1: me to sink my teeth into. But now all I
Speaker 1: can do is play Meo. So if I were to
Speaker 1: pick a platformer Metroidvania Space to be, it would be Meo.
Speaker 1: And then finally, quarantine Zone. This is a weird one.
Speaker 1: I love zombie apocalypses, you guys know that, and I
Speaker 1: love any type of zombie games. So this is just
Speaker 1: a weird one where you're in a zombie outbreak. You're
Speaker 1: in a quarantine zone, and you're the scanner. Your job
Speaker 1: is to scan people and decide whether or not they're zombies.
Speaker 1: As a fantasy. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love the idea. If their eyes are yellow, that's okay, fella.
Speaker 1: If their eyes are red, they gotta be dead. And
Speaker 1: so like, I've made all these little catchphrases to like
Speaker 1: let people in, I like decide whether or not if
Speaker 1: you send them to your death. Also, JANKI, if you
Speaker 1: send them to your death, you can follow them and
Speaker 1: watch them get murdered because you don't tell them. You're
Speaker 1: just like, you need to go to section D, bud
Speaker 1: and then he goes to section D and then he
Speaker 1: rag dolls and they kill him. There's lots of different
Speaker 1: devices that you need, and so each each day or
Speaker 1: each section of the game, you progress with different items.
Speaker 1: At first, you're just checking their eyes and their skin,
Speaker 1: then you're checking their temperature. Then you can actually find
Speaker 1: a device that goes under their clothes. There are sections
Speaker 1: where you're shooting zombies because they get in They mix
Speaker 1: it up a lot. I do think it's kind of
Speaker 1: it's just in general, I would just say it's just
Speaker 1: a little jank. It's it's obvious that it's really not
Speaker 1: fully baked. If you like fantasies of a zombie apocalypse
Speaker 1: and doing like a papers Please situation, yeah, you're like
Speaker 1: deciding people's fate. There's no time limit. If you aren't sure.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the people will be in a gray area. They
Speaker 1: might be a zombie, but they might be fine. You
Speaker 1: can put them in quarantine and then check on them
Speaker 1: the next day and see if they've become a zombie,
Speaker 1: which is cool, but you can only put three people
Speaker 1: into quarantine, so you have to be thoughtful. If you
Speaker 1: put someone who's actually sick in the safe area, then
Speaker 1: they light up your entire space that you have a
Speaker 1: zombie outbreak and a bunch of people that you saved
Speaker 1: get sick. If you kill people, that's also not good
Speaker 1: because you need them. You get more points and more
Speaker 1: money if you're like saving people, so you want to
Speaker 1: save as many people as possible. I ended up getting
Speaker 1: really frustrated at a at a section where I was
Speaker 1: shooting zombies. I just don't think that that's where this
Speaker 1: game shines. It's not a shooter. It's not intended to be.
Speaker 1: I don't even know why they added that part of
Speaker 1: this game. I'm here to scan people and determine whether
Speaker 1: or not they're sick enough for me to kill them,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't think it's for me.
Speaker 1: But I can appreciate a zombie apocalypse fantasy game, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what this.
Speaker 2: Is, right, all right? I think that's everything. Do you
Speaker 2: guys want to talk about emails? Sure? Yeah, okay? As usually,
Speaker 2: you can ride into Fireescape Cast at firescape cast at
Speaker 2: gmail dot com for questions you want read on the show.
Speaker 2: Got a bunch of new ones since the last episode
Speaker 2: starting twenty twenty six off in a strong way, Mary,
Speaker 2: do you want to read this first one? From Thomas?
Speaker 1: Hello, Lovely Fire Escape Ease. I picked a hell of
Speaker 1: a month to do my first dry January. I've been
Speaker 1: replacing most of my alcohol intake with cava. Cava is
Speaker 1: a root tea from the South Pacific that gives you
Speaker 1: a nice, mellow buzz. It's relaxing, not intoxicating, there's no hangover,
Speaker 1: and you can't have too much. On the flip side,
Speaker 1: it tastes like mud. It makes your lips and tongue numb,
Speaker 1: and it takes quite a while to prepare and if
Speaker 1: you have to drink a lot of it on an
Speaker 1: empty stomach because the effects are very slight. It's a
Speaker 1: hard sell and a tough thing to explain to people
Speaker 1: who have never tried it. Do you have anything that
Speaker 1: you do frequently that it's hard to explain or hard
Speaker 1: to sell? Thanks to the podcast, love y'all, Joy is
Speaker 1: an act of resistance. Thomas from Northeast East Sorry I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Northeast Nord East Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: I'm drink.
Speaker 3: For you knows about those I live Northeast.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, uh much love to you, Thomas. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: a cool that's a cool setup of like stuff that
Speaker 1: you that you feel like you struggle to sell people on.
Speaker 1: I will say, like, uh, speaking of tongue numbing, it
Speaker 1: wasn't until recent years. The last five years, I got
Speaker 1: really into sesshuan peppercorns. Sashwan is a spice that numbs
Speaker 1: your tongue, and it alters flavor profiles, so it can
Speaker 1: make meat more savory, it can make beer taste like
Speaker 1: apple juice. It just changes things. And I am so
Speaker 1: obsessed with sesshuan and I will crush these bad boys
Speaker 1: into soups and into different dishes. Crushed, they look like seeds.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 1: You should google it, but they look like a crunchy,
Speaker 1: dry seed, which I think they are. They look like
Speaker 1: a peppercorn. How about like an open peppercorn?
Speaker 2: Okay, assume.
Speaker 1: And I keep them at my house specifically so that
Speaker 1: if I have hot pot, which I love, it's like
Speaker 1: one of my favorite meals to make, I cram a
Speaker 1: bunch of sesshuan in my tongue and rub them all
Speaker 1: over my tongue until my tombs tongue is so numb
Speaker 1: that I can't feel it. Then I have guess. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you gotta put the jobs on your tongue, directly on
Speaker 1: the tongue. You gotta mash them in the mash the
Speaker 1: gou in your tongue, and then and then have a
Speaker 1: sup of beer. It tastes like apple juice. And everyone's like,
Speaker 1: you're fucking weird, and I can't. I have a hard
Speaker 1: time convincing people that it's so fun to mess with
Speaker 1: your tongues flavor profiles and to make things taste more
Speaker 1: like umami or like more savory. Everyone thinks I'm a freak.
Speaker 2: I love no, you know what, I do that quite
Speaker 2: a bit with changing flavor profiles of food. That's literally
Speaker 2: what wine and food pairing is. But anyway, I love.
Speaker 3: Mary brings them to New Orleans.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: I will. I'll bring the baggie of them. You can't know.
Speaker 2: It comes from the prickly ash tree, which is an
Speaker 2: invasive species in states. It's not allowed and you have
Speaker 2: to quarantine it. What he's tree. But I'm you you can't.
Speaker 2: You can bring it.
Speaker 3: I will try that, bring it, bring the neurons.
Speaker 2: I'll try some.
Speaker 1: I think it's great in a soup, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Mine is definitely meditation because it's the thing that's like
Speaker 3: helped me so much for so long with anxiety, and
Speaker 3: it's like it's something that like even if I don't,
Speaker 3: I have like a dedicated practice every day where I'm
Speaker 3: doing it for thirty minutes a day, and it's just
Speaker 3: the things I've learned through meditation and like just ways
Speaker 3: of thinking is it's very much just change the way
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: And the way I deal with certain things.
Speaker 3: But every time, like there's a certain type person where
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, they'll be asking about anxiety or
Speaker 3: certain things, and ibody like, you know, what would really
Speaker 3: help you is a meditation and people will be like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's no way I could ever do that. It's to
Speaker 3: my mind's always going to a million different places. There's
Speaker 3: no way I just be able to sit and think
Speaker 3: about nothing for fifteen minutes. And it's like, that's the
Speaker 3: fucking point. It's not about thinking about nothing. It's about
Speaker 3: recognizing when the thoughts are coming into your head, acknowledging
Speaker 3: them and then letting them pass on by. It's and
Speaker 3: then like if somebody will even try it, it's always
Speaker 3: the same thing with certain types of people, where it's
Speaker 3: like I just kept having I just kept having different
Speaker 3: thoughts stuff I couldn't just like clear my mind. It's
Speaker 3: like it's not about clearing your mind. It's not that's
Speaker 3: not what it is. There's just so many like misconceptions
Speaker 3: about it, and everyone thinks they're bad at it when
Speaker 3: it's like, that is the fucking practice. It's like I've
Speaker 3: meditated for over twenty years. I sit down to do it,
Speaker 3: I am still like sitting there thinking like, oh fuck,
Speaker 3: I gotta return to that email. And it's like wait, nope, nope.
Speaker 3: The practice is acknowledging that thought. Let it pass on by,
Speaker 3: back to the breath, back to the body scan, whatever
Speaker 3: I'm doing. That is the practice. That is doing a rep,
Speaker 3: that is doing a bicep curl. That is like you're
Speaker 3: not just sitting there with a clear mind for you know,
Speaker 3: thirty minutes on a pillow, Like that's not what it is.
Speaker 3: So it is just like if I can even get
Speaker 3: someone to try it, it's like they still think like
Speaker 3: I'm bad at it.
Speaker 2: I could never do this.
Speaker 3: That's just that's it's a practice. Something you got to
Speaker 3: work on and you will get better at it and
Speaker 3: you will see the results and not that much time.
Speaker 2: If if you give it a shot. But a lot
Speaker 2: of people just.
Speaker 1: What do you do in it?
Speaker 2: Though? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: How do you do win?
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing this goal I was.
Speaker 2: I was Dungeons and dragons just we both run nice one.
Speaker 2: I meditated quite a bit on the West Coast. I
Speaker 2: fell out of practice. But yeah, like I know exactly
Speaker 2: what you mean. It is like a muscle you need
Speaker 2: to work out and maintain otherwise at atrophies. But if
Speaker 2: I was to meditate tomorrow morning, I would suck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: everything flying through my head would linger there and then
Speaker 2: I'd think I would push away and then It'll be
Speaker 2: like yeah, but like I would be better at it
Speaker 2: in three weeks if I do it consistent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because I meditate, is why I can. Like,
Speaker 3: if I'm in a dentist chair or something that I
Speaker 3: used to not be able to, like, I would just
Speaker 3: avoid the dentists like the plague, and I still don't
Speaker 3: like it. No one likes it, but I can go
Speaker 3: in now and if it's like uh, they're kind of
Speaker 3: just like doing something or drilling into something or whatever,
Speaker 3: and like I'm tens enough and I'm like, oh God,
Speaker 3: it's gonna hurt really be Like I will acknowledge that, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm having that thought that I'm anticipating pain, but that's
Speaker 3: just the thought, that's not reality, And I'll kind of
Speaker 3: let that go and I'll focus on my breath and
Speaker 3: I'm able to just kind of like like I can
Speaker 3: feel the tension just leave every muscle in my body
Speaker 3: as I incorporate these things I've learned through meditation, Like
Speaker 3: it is a tremendous skill to have.
Speaker 1: That's great, Dan, That's like such a powerful skill, And
Speaker 1: there's pieces in that that everybody probably does really too.
Speaker 1: There are so many studies that show that naming a
Speaker 1: feeling helps alleviate it. So if there is a spider
Speaker 1: in a room and everybody's like measuring how afraid people
Speaker 1: are of the spider, but then you ask everyone in
Speaker 1: the room, how are you feeling right now, and they say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid because of the spider, they're less afraid. Like,
Speaker 1: naming the feeling helps you process the feeling. It's like
Speaker 1: basic psychology. But those are things that you're learning and practicing,
Speaker 1: and your practice I think you're wonderful.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts and feelings aren't reality, you know, like they
Speaker 3: can be scary and everything, but like as soon as
Speaker 3: you realize, like, oh, this is just the thought, this
Speaker 3: is in my head, this is that's not reality necessarily,
Speaker 3: and like things you can learn through that.
Speaker 1: You know you are right to be afraid of pain.
Speaker 3: All come out and say I don't like pain either.
Speaker 1: I feel like that is a fair fight or flight
Speaker 1: response to me, Like, I'm also anxious in so many
Speaker 1: people are anxious, and the dentist share it's such a
Speaker 1: miserable experience. But like, what I don't like is the
Speaker 1: high pitched weed noise. I don't I just don't like
Speaker 1: that in my head. Yeah, I don't want it in there.
Speaker 1: And so like obviously I wouldn't like the pain either.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I would struggle with meditation in
Speaker 1: that situation is that there's a high pitched noise that's
Speaker 1: so distracting to me.
Speaker 3: But it's a little different because like I'm not technically
Speaker 3: like meditating. When I'm in the dentist chair, I'm saying
Speaker 3: I'm taking I'm taking the things I've learned through meditation,
Speaker 3: the ability to not attach myself to thoughts, and so
Speaker 3: through my meditation practice, when I'm in a situation like that,
Speaker 3: I can have that thought where I'm really tense, like
Speaker 3: oh this is about to hurt, and I can be like, wait, no,
Speaker 3: that's just a thought, and I can just let it go,
Speaker 3: let it just float on down the river there, and
Speaker 3: I can just feel my body relaxed, because like there's
Speaker 3: that's a good practice.
Speaker 1: It's great as it'd be fun though if you were
Speaker 1: like I'm gone, they're drilling you, and you're like you're little,
Speaker 1: You're a little cloud body. He actually disappears.
Speaker 3: Uh ast, Yeah, you just get the fuck out of there.
Speaker 1: You're in a taco bell. They're drilling you.
Speaker 3: Your insurance was rejected in the fire sauce all over
Speaker 3: my meditation pillow.
Speaker 1: You're ordering, you're ordering a kisadiya.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think mine. I mean, I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: preaching the choir here with you two, especially after the
Speaker 2: last episode when Dan was realizing he actually really likes
Speaker 2: horror movies. But I think horror in general as a
Speaker 2: broad genre, the people who get it get it, and
Speaker 2: I realize it's probably bigger than ever now. But like
Speaker 2: I like reading horror. I like playing horror games, I
Speaker 2: like watching horror movies, and a lot of people always
Speaker 2: like why do you The people who don't get it
Speaker 2: often are like, why do you like being scared? I'm like,
Speaker 2: Cuz it's in a safe environment, and also it's cathartic,
Speaker 2: and it's like there's a power in projecting these very
Speaker 2: primal emotions onto other characters in their situations. Especially. But
Speaker 2: they're like, but the but like the world is fucked
Speaker 2: right now, isn't it. Like don't you want to watch
Speaker 2: like some like a rom com or something. It's like no,
Speaker 2: Like there is a way of processing emotions by watching
Speaker 2: these in a very powerful way. It almost is like
Speaker 2: therapeutic in its own its own regard. But also I
Speaker 2: just I don't know, I'm drawn quite heavily to like
Speaker 2: dark stories because then I I find the characters more
Speaker 2: compelling when they're in these situations.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you mentioned like scary things in safe environments.
Speaker 3: That's the same thing where it's like, you know, I
Speaker 3: fucking love roller coasters, and there's so many people that
Speaker 3: are like, oh, why would you like, I don't understand,
Speaker 3: Like it's so scary, and it's like, well, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the thing. You get to experience this adrenaline in
Speaker 3: this feeling of your brain being like this is dangerous,
Speaker 3: but you know you've got the bar there. You know
Speaker 3: you're not going to die.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like that's the appeal is like danger but you
Speaker 3: know you're actually safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's not as hard as much of
Speaker 2: a hard cell these days. But that's probably the one.
Speaker 2: Like I do get detractors. I'm like, hey, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it's for you. I'm just saying I think you
Speaker 2: have a simplistic take on why I like it. Here's why.
Speaker 2: The deeper reason I like it.
Speaker 1: I think that that's really cool that hopefully you can
Speaker 1: convince a couple people like the number one reason is
Speaker 1: people like, why would you be stressed after a stressful
Speaker 1: day of work? And I was like, because if you
Speaker 1: are watching someone get hacked to death, then who cares
Speaker 1: that that email wasn't very smart? All of your worldly issues, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all that shit has gone.
Speaker 2: When you watch a horror movie, you're not trapped in
Speaker 2: a house. You're not going to do the coagula to you.
Speaker 2: To an elderly person, you're fine. Some people are fine. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you, Thomas, Dan, you want to do this one
Speaker 2: from Lucas.
Speaker 3: Yes, escapees. There's always been a fair amount of food
Speaker 3: talk on this pot, but I'm wondering what fast food
Speaker 3: is a bridge too far. I'd assume Mike is nearly everything,
Speaker 3: and Dan is probably nothing, and Mary might be somewhere
Speaker 3: in between. For myself, it's Arby's. I blame the Simpsons
Speaker 3: in the talk of throwing raccoons over the fence and
Speaker 3: letting Arby's worry about it. So they're sandwiches make me
Speaker 3: uncomfortable for a reason. I've never been able to put
Speaker 3: my Figer on love Lucas.
Speaker 2: Uh Arby's is assumption of.
Speaker 1: The three of us is interesting, don't you think? Is
Speaker 1: it accurate?
Speaker 2: No? I mean I don't. I don't think everything's too far.
Speaker 2: I eat fast food. People assume like.
Speaker 1: I'm not a low tolerance.
Speaker 3: I definitely eat it very rarely. But I've never seen
Speaker 3: you turn your nose up at it. I have the
Speaker 3: thing I would say, but for all we give you
Speaker 3: ship for being like high flutin and stuff like, You've
Speaker 3: never been one to like turn your nose up thinking.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite wine food pairings is Popeye's chicken
Speaker 2: sandwich and champagne.
Speaker 3: We did that when you came here, and it was fine.
Speaker 2: It was great. Or Pepperini pizza and caviny frank like that.
Speaker 2: I love high low pairings. But speaking of Arby's, really quick,
Speaker 2: and this kind of touches on Luke's question. I never
Speaker 2: really loved Arby's and I never fully understood Arby's, and
Speaker 2: I never understood how it got so big. Like I
Speaker 2: feel like their whole, very specific thing was the roast
Speaker 2: beef sandwich, and I've had a few of them and
Speaker 2: they're good. But I grew up in Liverpool, New York.
Speaker 2: On Route fifty seven. There was a Arby's and a
Speaker 2: Taco Bell right next to each other, like literally there
Speaker 2: was a curb dividing their drive throughs. So when my
Speaker 2: parents just wanted to get fast food for the night
Speaker 2: because they didn't want to make food for my mom
Speaker 2: specifically didn't want to make food for five kids, they'd say, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're doing Taco Bell slash Arby's. Let us know what
Speaker 2: you want. I would always do Taco Bell. I had
Speaker 2: like two siblings who sometimes went with Arby's, but I
Speaker 2: always was a bit uncomfortable with the Arby's sandwich roast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just such a weird thing that people go
Speaker 2: out of their way to buy. And this was like
Speaker 2: huge nationwide chain.
Speaker 1: The hype like altern like everybody loved this roasty sandwich.
Speaker 2: Sort of like the sandwich just didn't look appetizing. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was clairvoyant because I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen these at the age of nine, but looking back,
Speaker 2: it just looks like a stack of like labia on
Speaker 2: a sandwich. And I never really got how that was.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike gets it, but I I never I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Arby's got so big on like
Speaker 2: such specific things, but like.
Speaker 3: They got the good they're the roast beef people, I mean,
Speaker 3: and I still don't really you know, no one really
Speaker 3: messes with them.
Speaker 2: It's so such a specific thing. No, But I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any like bridge too far from me. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we're talking like health or just like
Speaker 2: gross or.
Speaker 3: I took it as like like blow you or something
Speaker 3: like I I I guess saying that like there's nothing
Speaker 3: I would like say absolutely not at I will say
Speaker 3: I've never liked Burger King, and like, I think the
Speaker 3: only time I would have Burger King is if like
Speaker 3: it's the only option, like if you're on a road
Speaker 3: trip and it's just like, fuck, we haven't had food
Speaker 3: in a while, just whatever the next thing is.
Speaker 2: Okay, it is the lesser of the big three burger
Speaker 2: fast food.
Speaker 3: I think it sucks. I think yeah mc McDonald's is
Speaker 3: the standard. I think Wendy's is like a step up,
Speaker 3: you know, like never frozen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're actually
Speaker 3: my favorite. I'm very excited about this. So Bonk and
Speaker 3: I the last sponsorship. Oh yeah, yeah we did Wendy's. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was great. Valk and I for the last few
Speaker 3: years have done for Valentine's Day. We've done this like
Speaker 3: really fancy, like prefixed, like very fine dining, James Beard
Speaker 3: Award winning thing, you know, like it it's great, but
Speaker 3: we're about to be on a vacation where we're gonna
Speaker 3: have a lot of like fancy meals and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, I don't want to like get
Speaker 3: back to vacation and then like you know, they just
Speaker 3: do another one of those you know it's gonna whatever.
Speaker 3: So we're doing the thing. Yes, so we're doing the
Speaker 3: White Castle thing where what's the way.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, where you could there's select locations that
Speaker 1: are doing Valentine's Day at.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how selected is, Like there were
Speaker 3: a bunch around here that do. And you have to
Speaker 3: make reservations and like I've always heard about this, You
Speaker 3: make reserve and they like do a whole thing where
Speaker 3: they have waiters come to your like thing like at
Speaker 3: the White Castle, and they have like a special menu
Speaker 3: and things like that. So we're gonna go to Applebee's
Speaker 3: for cocktails beforehand and then we get reservations of White.
Speaker 2: Funny, I think it's gonna be awesome. So really looking
Speaker 2: forward good. Yeah, I'm not above the thing. I am above.
Speaker 2: I will say, if I'm in a city I'm new
Speaker 2: to or just a like if I'm somewhere away from
Speaker 2: home or even home, and I have the option between
Speaker 2: like a local small business and I'm not just trying
Speaker 2: to posture here and a chain, I will do my utmost.
Speaker 2: I will, to the best of my abilities do the
Speaker 2: local thing. Or like if I went to when we
Speaker 2: go to Minneapolis, it's not like I'm like, we gotta
Speaker 2: go to fucking to be clear, I could crush Applebee's
Speaker 2: and Chili's. Chilies is a fucking national treasure. I will
Speaker 2: still it is a bridge too far to me if
Speaker 2: I see like a Chili's next to like a I
Speaker 2: don't know, like Minneapolis has a lot of good like faugh,
Speaker 2: I will do the fa every single time. Like if
Speaker 2: I I would feel genuinely bad and it would be
Speaker 2: a bitch too far if I went to the chain,
Speaker 2: sure over that.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I did the same thing. I
Speaker 1: really avoid Starbucks like the plague. There's got to be
Speaker 1: a local coffee shop that's gonna taste so good, and
Speaker 1: I just prefer to support like that whatever. That little
Speaker 1: business is way more than the Starbucks. All drink Starbucks.
Speaker 1: It's not like I won't drink Starbucks, but like I
Speaker 1: just don't want to drink a Starbucks. I would rather
Speaker 1: drink I also.
Speaker 3: Don't think I will like this is not the same
Speaker 3: as like massive conglomerate versus mom and pop, but like
Speaker 3: around here, it's like, yeah, Starbucks is everwhere, but also
Speaker 3: Caribou Coffee is a local chain around here, and.
Speaker 2: I bring back great every after every game of the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very similar to Starbucks, and they're everywhere here,
Speaker 3: but it's like and like, I don't like have a
Speaker 3: super strong feeling about this coffee versus that coffee. But like,
Speaker 3: if a Cariboo and Starbucks next to each other here,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do Cariboo. It's not a tiny little mom
Speaker 3: and pop. It's a chain, but it's a Minnesota chain,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when I go to San Francisco, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: ideally I'll go to Phills for coffee. But I'm also
Speaker 2: not above pets. Like I'm fine there.
Speaker 1: I like Petz, I like PILs too. Those are both good,
Speaker 1: But I think those are both better than like ultimate
Speaker 1: chains that are like everywhere of the same things and
Speaker 1: have harmed their workers and now there's protests.
Speaker 2: Even putting even putting principles aside. I don't think Starbucks
Speaker 2: makes good coffee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, workers, people, it's all about the coffee days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want that coffee.
Speaker 2: Good. Fucking robots can make my coffee. It's got a
Speaker 2: taste good. I don't give a fuck about the employment.
Speaker 2: I was joking. It goes to like.
Speaker 3: Beer and liquor and stuff too. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I just showed you we got an email from NORDIAUS Minneapolis.
Speaker 3: It's literally I'm drinking grain Belt right now.
Speaker 2: Like I I think that's it.
Speaker 1: What a local What a local bro you are?
Speaker 3: You know there's local distilleries and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: I'm not even like it's not even a tasting. I
Speaker 3: don't have the palette necessarily for like, I couldn't tell
Speaker 3: you the differences carily between a nord East and some
Speaker 3: chain beer who chains not the word, but you know,
Speaker 3: like a big national brand.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy a beer.
Speaker 2: This is my home. I'd like to buy a local one,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, don't fucking drink Camus or the Prisoner.
Speaker 2: You could spend less money on better wine from smaller
Speaker 2: producers who are breaking their backs to make better wine,
Speaker 2: you fucos. I would like. There are people in the
Speaker 2: video game industry, developers of games that I love, who
Speaker 2: are like, oh my god, I love Camus. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you like it, then like it, but also don't
Speaker 2: act like it's this cool little niche thing. It's that
Speaker 2: is the like fucking McDonald's of Napa cab. I'm venting
Speaker 2: about something very specifically.
Speaker 1: How much is it? Is it expensive?
Speaker 2: Like sixty bucks for their entry level wine and you're
Speaker 2: spending you could spend less money out. Oh, it's so
Speaker 2: annoying to me.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, you know who else I know likes
Speaker 3: to drink locally. It's a it's Mike Manati.
Speaker 1: I'm getting fucking ad.
Speaker 2: Is not the one you meant to press?
Speaker 3: Local place?
Speaker 2: That's where did I send you? We're getting a we
Speaker 2: might be getting Rainforest Cafe in my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Oh god, he'll be there.
Speaker 2: It used to be this fucking oh speaking of a
Speaker 2: bridge too far. I'm so fucking happy the place that
Speaker 2: shut down, and it technically was a local business, but
Speaker 2: like they lost their soul. They would sell a thousand
Speaker 2: dollars version of their Buffalo Wings with quote unquote gold
Speaker 2: flakes on them as this like Instagram flex and they
Speaker 2: shut down and from funk off with that stupid ship.
Speaker 2: Go fucking be a plague somewhere else. I don't want
Speaker 2: you here. We're getting Rainforest Cafe, which is.
Speaker 1: Which do you want that they're gonna have They're gonna
Speaker 1: have gold flakes.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Rainforest Cafe right right actually doing it and
Speaker 2: then he then he then I have it on him.
Speaker 3: I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never be allowed back and do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The going back to the question, I just wanted to say, like,
Speaker 1: one of the things that I felt like became kind
Speaker 1: of notorious and people still still messaging me about it
Speaker 1: is my hatred of Skyline Chili and that is my
Speaker 1: bridge too far and I won't eat that. I think
Speaker 1: it's disgusting and I don't want noodles with chili and
Speaker 1: weird amounts of cheese on it. The other one that
Speaker 1: I would always say is the seafood sub from Subway
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 2: Kind of.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gross. I used to work there, it was
Speaker 1: my first job, so I used to make it. And
Speaker 1: it is a vat of mayonnaise and a baggie of seafood,
Speaker 1: and I truly think that it is manufactured seafood, Like
Speaker 1: I don't think it's actual real fish or anything. It's
Speaker 1: just particles from the sea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want that. I will say, actually brings
Speaker 2: too far from me is chicken McNuggets. I don't like
Speaker 2: you to hell, and that's not I don't care what
Speaker 2: they're made of or what they're not made of. I actually,
Speaker 2: when I bite into them, it's gross to me. It
Speaker 2: tastes like glue inside of like that's been fried. I
Speaker 2: don't care. I'm much for eating things that aren't actually chicken.
Speaker 2: I don't like McNuggets, Wendy's chicken nuggets. I will boof
Speaker 2: day in and day out. I love that shit. I
Speaker 2: love Wendy's.
Speaker 1: Nuggets basically McNuggets.
Speaker 2: I don't like McNugget standard bearer, standard bearer of Like,
Speaker 2: I need something in my stomach, so I'm gonna shove
Speaker 2: this fucking dog food into me. Yeah right, dude, dude,
Speaker 2: I used to get Wendy's chili when I was hungover.
Speaker 2: I will. I'm not above fast food on principle, but
Speaker 2: chicken McNuggets are like if you're with people with actual palettes.
Speaker 2: Oh me, they're the lowest rung on the fast cuisine.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: Wait, McDonald's doesn't fast was Oh I think you're saying
Speaker 3: fast casual. Okay, sorry, now there straight up fast food,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 3: I know, but like I I will say, they they
Speaker 3: went down.
Speaker 2: I still sometimes like crave Big Max.
Speaker 3: I've had one. Big Mac in my life.
Speaker 2: I love them really Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was always the standard McDonald's orders.
Speaker 3: I love them, the plain quarter pounder and cheese, biggest
Speaker 3: for all you got ten piece nugget, barbecue sauce and
Speaker 3: ramch dicho.
Speaker 2: Okay wow except for the nuggets. Yeah, tenders rather.
Speaker 1: Mind the nuggets. But I'm a I'm a dollar menu girl.
Speaker 1: So it's it's double double burger. What was it called
Speaker 1: the mc double.
Speaker 3: Specific double taper is mcdouble.
Speaker 1: Double cheeburger isn't on the doll menu. MC double is
Speaker 1: a double on the mcduble is two patty's one cheese.
Speaker 1: A double cheeseburger is not on the dollar menu.
Speaker 2: I need a double cheese.
Speaker 1: I understand, but it's not a Then you're spending lots
Speaker 1: of money, lots and over here. Who cares slap another
Speaker 1: cheese on there? And then the chicken alek, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: he's that he begged for.
Speaker 2: Please please tell me you love me? The fuck it works.
Speaker 2: I get here and I get ship done. No, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's not really like a bridge too far though from.
Speaker 1: Me sounds like there is. And it's the McNugget they went.
Speaker 2: Down and just don't like that's not a principal thing.
Speaker 2: I definitely would not eat that seafood conglomerate.
Speaker 3: You just mentioned they used to have dark meat in
Speaker 3: the nuggets and they stopped that like fifteen years ago,
Speaker 3: and that has been a hit in quality. I miss those,
Speaker 3: but they're still great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really preferred when it was just the innards
Speaker 1: and the the holes of the chicken.
Speaker 3: I eat nuggets. I like, literally, it's not even like
Speaker 3: crossing my mind that it used to be a chicken.
Speaker 2: No again, I'm not saying that. I'm well aware that
Speaker 2: like Wendy's and Burger King all these places, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of artificial shit in there. I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: dislike make nuggets because they're not actually chicken.
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, no, no, no no, I'm not
Speaker 3: more it's stupid merry. I'm stupid because like I will
Speaker 3: eat a boneless, skinless chicken breast and it won't register
Speaker 3: to me that that's actually used to be a chicken.
Speaker 2: Like I think we all do that to some extent,
Speaker 2: to kind of like to make it more mentally palatable
Speaker 2: that we are eating an animal. It's hard a lot
Speaker 2: of chicken.
Speaker 1: But it's so manufactured in the nugget, like you don't
Speaker 1: even see the the like meat.
Speaker 2: It's well where it's not real beef in the crunch traps,
Speaker 2: and I fucking love crunch traps. It has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with the providence of the meat. I just don't
Speaker 2: find the texture or the taste of McNuggets good a palette. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't. Maybe I'm just misleading myself with my
Speaker 2: chetons and my reasonings like I don't. Maybe I don't
Speaker 2: know what?
Speaker 3: Then your own voice to mock yourself about the ones.
Speaker 2: Off drying from the sar. That'd be great. Please turn
Speaker 2: into a Dracula, becoming weirder the more I talk. All right, well,
Speaker 2: thank you Lucas, Hello, Daniel, Mary and Michael. What is
Speaker 2: the best nickname? Oh? I get it. What's the best
Speaker 2: nickname you've ever encountered? I work with a bloke nicknamed
Speaker 2: Pothole because everyone tries to avoid him. It's good. There
Speaker 2: is lots of love. Simon from Pith, Australia. I uh I.
Speaker 3: There was a night in college we got back to
Speaker 3: the dorms after the bars and we were all like
Speaker 3: completely shit hammered and just like sitting around the lobby
Speaker 3: and it was with a guy named Ben and a
Speaker 3: guy named Brian and Brian. For some reason, he was
Speaker 3: drunk enough to think it was funny to keep be like, oh, Ben,
Speaker 3: Ben the hen, Ben the hen, and he just wouldn't
Speaker 3: stop saying Ben the hen, and Ben was getting annoyed.
Speaker 3: He's like, God, I wish your name rhymed was something
Speaker 3: like stupid, Like I wish your name was like Lenas,
Speaker 3: And we started calling him Lenas, and it stuck so
Speaker 3: fucking hard that in future years I knew this guy
Speaker 3: all through college. People didn't even know his name was Brian.
Speaker 3: His fucking dad would come to visit and call him Lenis.
Speaker 3: Liked funny, that's Lenis. Yeah, that's that's the dad. Thing's crazy,
Speaker 3: I was Gonnay. I feel like it's the mark of
Speaker 3: a good nickname that people you actually have to either
Speaker 3: rack your brain or truly forget what their name is. Well,
Speaker 3: people would meet him and be like Linas, what where's
Speaker 3: that from? I've never heard that name, and it's like, no,
Speaker 3: it's just because it rhymed with venis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my good friend here. I don't actually use this like,
Speaker 2: it's more of a joke nickname that we use in
Speaker 2: like text chats, not to each other's face, but like, uh,
Speaker 2: I think you guys both met him at one point
Speaker 2: or another. Uh. He's my Australian friend, so we and
Speaker 2: he's from outside Sydney in the suburbs, so we call
Speaker 2: him Bogan sometimes. But that's not like an actual like
Speaker 2: one I use regularly. I can't even remember the last
Speaker 2: time I had like a truly good nick we had.
Speaker 2: We had a friend growing up when we were young.
Speaker 2: His name was Aman like e A M O N N.
Speaker 2: I believe it was Irish something like that, which is
Speaker 2: a cool name. Now that he's older, he goes by that.
Speaker 2: But I remember he was short for our friend group,
Speaker 2: and I think just in general, and I remember people
Speaker 2: started calling him pooch and like the whole high school started.
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't think he didn't dislike it,
Speaker 2: like he embraced it. But I remember at one point
Speaker 2: I also I forgot what his first name was for
Speaker 2: a few days until somebody remind me.
Speaker 1: Isn't too bad, you guys have.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: My stepdad's name was Dan, and so I called him
Speaker 3: Big Dan, and he called me Junior, so he would call.
Speaker 1: Me Junior Junior. That's cute. My dad called me mayor bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go some of the my dad and my
Speaker 2: some of my uncles still call me Mick the Irish family.
Speaker 2: But my sister still to this day, I believe it's
Speaker 2: from the Goonies. She still calls me chunk. Like I
Speaker 2: don't know how. I forget how it started. Oh, he
Speaker 2: does the dance in the movie with the stomach, the
Speaker 2: truffle shuffle, Come on the truffle shuffle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean you haven't seen The Goonies?
Speaker 2: Dan, interesting? That seems like a movie you would have seen.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It's transformative.
Speaker 2: I remember thinking of it.
Speaker 3: I used to always think it was like a Grimlins thing,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I like Grimlins because it
Speaker 3: sounds like Grimlins. And then I would like see the
Speaker 3: cover of the VHS and I'd be like, it seems
Speaker 3: about kids I don't like, and I just wouldn't watch.
Speaker 1: It's better. It's better than the Grimlins. It's such a
Speaker 1: good story.
Speaker 2: You gotta watch watch both of them and then compare.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, I would really like to see on
Speaker 1: your bracket.
Speaker 3: I think Grimlins too. The new batage is going to
Speaker 3: be just about anything I.
Speaker 1: Don't think that's I mean, now we're back to palettes,
Speaker 1: are we.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all got our own.
Speaker 1: My favorite evening is some chicken nuggets and Grimlins too.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a fucking dream. That sounds like half
Speaker 3: of sounds like something I've done many times in my life.
Speaker 1: Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Not to get off topic, well, I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: we do that sometimes. But the first, the only time
Speaker 2: I've ever seen Gremlins two was I had a I
Speaker 2: had a train from here up to Syracuse and Dan
Speaker 2: was still living in New York. This is before I
Speaker 2: moved back, and I was visiting from San Francisco, and
Speaker 2: I went hung out with Dan and Bianca, and then
Speaker 2: Bianca had gone to bed, and it was probably by
Speaker 2: this point one am, and my train was at six
Speaker 2: am out of Penn Station the next morning or later
Speaker 2: that morning. So instead of getting any sleep at all,
Speaker 2: dance like you could just like stay up and watch
Speaker 2: Gremlins two, like you start heading down to the train, like, okay,
Speaker 2: it sounds great. Of course, I keep drinking while I'm
Speaker 2: watching Gremlins two, So it's by the time the movie
Speaker 2: I watched that by the time the movie ends, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like still blown back into my seat from
Speaker 2: the awesomeness I just saw. I'm hammered and I have
Speaker 2: to get down to Penn Station to get on a
Speaker 2: train and get upstate.
Speaker 3: We also watched Rocky four that night.
Speaker 2: I watched Rocky four. Oh that's what it was. I
Speaker 2: watched Gremlins two order and then I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: my train's in like four hours, and you're like, you
Speaker 2: could just watch Rocky four.
Speaker 3: Gremlins two, Rocky Ford Train.
Speaker 2: Before Gremlins two, we had watched John Travolta as John Gotti.
Speaker 1: Oh, go.
Speaker 2: Watch Gotti recorded your podcast.
Speaker 1: And we want to like hell trifecta.
Speaker 3: Fun.
Speaker 2: Well, Gott he was off, Gott, he was tough.
Speaker 3: I've watched it again since then. It's unbelievably bad. Why well,
Speaker 3: I just did like a stream watch along of it.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I had to show back. I like, I
Speaker 3: like making people watch insane movies, and stream is a
Speaker 3: good way to do.
Speaker 2: We got oh we wait, we got a recommendation of
Speaker 2: a movie in the emails. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: could find it quick enough where there won't be a
Speaker 2: bunch of dretit on horror. Maybe the horror horror movies.
Speaker 2: Yes it, Simon said, Mary, if you haven't seen Influencers, No, no, no, sorry, different,
Speaker 2: What is it.
Speaker 1: You read? I'm gonna say something, Dan, I think this
Speaker 1: was the last episode you told me to watch, Annette. Yes,
Speaker 1: here are my messages to Dan in real time. Yes,
Speaker 1: Mary starting a net. I have been told not to fart, Dan, Hell? Yes, Mary?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck? Is this a musical? Dan?
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 1: Who can say, Mary? It can't be this the whole time, Mary,
Speaker 1: They keep singing, Dan, I'm so happy for you. Mary.
Speaker 1: Is the joke that you convinced me to watch this? Dan? No,
Speaker 1: I've watched this seven times. It was around that time
Speaker 1: that I turned this off.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna say the text stopped at a
Speaker 3: certain point.
Speaker 1: Did you even I can't get through this shit.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's you got to keep going. No you,
Speaker 3: I'm telling it goes places.
Speaker 1: It's miserable.
Speaker 3: It was when I watched it the first time, I
Speaker 3: thought it was the worst movie I've ever seen, and
Speaker 3: Balk and I kept looking at each other and like
Speaker 3: we pause to go to the bathroom and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be able to make it through the
Speaker 3: rest of this. We've been there, Mary, We've been where
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 1: Torture. It's torture. It was twenty minutes of torture.
Speaker 3: You haven't even gotten to the baby, Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary,
Speaker 3: promise me no, maybe tonight. You did twenty minutes last week,
Speaker 3: we did twenty minutes at a time.
Speaker 1: It's it's telling marble. I hated it.
Speaker 3: I never said it was like great or you're gonna
Speaker 3: love it. I'm saying you need to watch it.
Speaker 1: I think you're fucking with me. You like it miserable.
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with you. Do another twenty at a time.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. It's shit.
Speaker 3: I thought so too.
Speaker 2: I thought so too.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: What do you mean another twenty tonight and text me.
Speaker 2: I have a movie recommendation from Brian maybe Portland. He said,
Speaker 2: I think Mary and Mike would like it as well.
Speaker 2: It's a horror movie recommendation for Dan. I think Mike
Speaker 2: and Mary would like it as well. It's called The
Speaker 2: Monkey from twenty oh oh.
Speaker 3: I've heard about that.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is people dying in hilarious ways.
Speaker 1: It is it's kind of like a final Destination, but
Speaker 1: zero seriousness. According according to Brian, it's zero seriousness. And
Speaker 1: I would also add zero brain cells because like in
Speaker 1: Final Destination, they will like allude to what might happen,
Speaker 1: you know, like you might see it in the reflection
Speaker 1: of a window and you'd be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be the sign. It's gonna fall. And
Speaker 1: then the sign falls and it starts like a Goldberg
Speaker 1: machine of death that like cascades into their death. And
Speaker 1: it's like it's interesting sequence the monkeys like it's nonsense.
Speaker 1: It's so stupid. I will I will admit with the
Speaker 1: with this person like it's good old fashioned death fun.
Speaker 1: But the whole time when I was watching it, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is this is such a silly way
Speaker 1: to die, where like nothing makes sense. If someone's in
Speaker 1: a pool and you'll be like, oh, this person's gonna
Speaker 1: get like electrocuted or something. Something so stupid unnecessarily will
Speaker 1: also happen to them just because they're like they're like actually,
Speaker 1: like you know, someone's gonna come in and stab them
Speaker 1: at the end, and it's just like fuck you, Like
Speaker 1: nothing makes sense in this movie. It's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a total joke of a film, but it is very
Speaker 1: fun to watch people die.
Speaker 3: I think got time for all these joke movies, but
Speaker 3: not cinema.
Speaker 1: That movie is garbage. Mike, have you seen it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you think? Do you think? You keep going? Yes,
Speaker 2: you liar, We're with you. I like, like the next
Speaker 2: day after it was done, and I was thinking, yeah
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it stays in your head a bit.
Speaker 1: Like you're both liars, you're fucking with me.
Speaker 3: It went from a half start of rocks until like
Speaker 3: four in defense.
Speaker 2: He did talk about it like a year ago on
Speaker 2: the show before, so like this is this is still track.
Speaker 1: It's a musical that makes no sense.
Speaker 2: Give it if you haven't got to the baby.
Speaker 1: They keep singing how they're feeling, I know, give me.
Speaker 3: Another twenty No.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought of one more nickname. When I was young. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's a kid in my friend's neighborhood who was like
Speaker 2: the His family had moved there from I don't remember,
Speaker 2: like Florida or somewhere, and they had a lot of
Speaker 2: money and he was like immediately looking down on us
Speaker 2: for not and uh so we didn't. So I don't
Speaker 2: feel bad about this. But his name was I'm a
Speaker 2: Verdi and uh we my friend came up with it
Speaker 2: and we sorted calling him I'm a virgin and just
Speaker 2: that he was just an elitist dick. It was like
Speaker 2: a fIF fucking fourteen year old like this being like
Speaker 2: an elitist prick about having more money than everybody's. I
Speaker 2: can't stand living here. Like my old neighborhood had a
Speaker 2: gate insecurity. I was like, oh my god, my friend
Speaker 2: was brilliant. I still don't even remember, like I forgot
Speaker 2: what his real name was for a bit, but one
Speaker 2: was good. Thank you for writing in tonight, Lucas, Thomas
Speaker 2: and Simon. That's our show, fire Escape Cast at gmail
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Speaker 3: Guynbomb dot com A lot of fun stuff going on
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Speaker 1: Mary, what about you, I'm streaming every Monday on Twitch
Speaker 1: and posting silly videos of my dog on Instagram. That's
Speaker 1: my entire existence.
Speaker 2: Sweet, I'm here about it.
Speaker 1: I also exist.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. We'll be back in two weeks with episode
Speaker 2: one twenty six. Until then, hopefully everybody shovels digs out
Speaker 2: of the snow if you've bet affected, which is like
Speaker 2: two thirds of the country, so odds are you have,
Speaker 2: and we will see you a couple of weeks. Bye bye,