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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, hour number two here on a Thursday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for hanging with us. It's coffee and company fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me Austin Montgomery alongside. As we get closer and

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<v Speaker 2>closer to Derby one fifty one, I just got just

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<v Speaker 2>got the the the I guess the assignment for me

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<v Speaker 2>on Derby Day. I'm ready to ready to put in

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<v Speaker 2>a good ship for the team, and you contribute in

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<v Speaker 2>any way I can for News Radio eight forty WHS.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna be on in the morning with the

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<v Speaker 2>one and only Tony Cruz. I mean, with Tony retiring

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<v Speaker 2>and this being his last derby with us here at has,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's an honor to be to be out

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<v Speaker 2>there with the one and only Tony Cruz. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be doing some stuff with him on air. Part you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be a two man team essentially for a little while

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and then I'll also do some some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff with the Bennetti and then I'll do my roaming

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<v Speaker 2>reporter type of stuff and you know, who knows what

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<v Speaker 2>else we'll get into. Hopefully we can just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stay stay dry. May not be easy, but we'll certainly try.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you more You're you're more of an interviewer on

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<v Speaker 2>Derby Day for us, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I just go around and I do the man on

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<v Speaker 4>the street thing, yeah, or man at.

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<v Speaker 2>The derby, yeah, man at the derby and and those

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<v Speaker 2>you know, those are I was just telling our boss,

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<v Speaker 2>Gus Allen that I used to be scared to death

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<v Speaker 2>to do those, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I still get pretty nervous. Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get like, I don't know, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>could see you getting nervous initially, but you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good ability to just like you, you know, break

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<v Speaker 2>the ice, start a combo.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Like once you start talking to somebody and it just

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<v Speaker 2>turns into where you're having a conversation, it's not doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really feel like an interview. Because here's what I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>not that I'm some expert that should be giving out advice,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an interview.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>If you make it seem as if you're interviewing people.

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<v Speaker 2>Some will run with it and they'll execute and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be great, but others will be uncomfortable because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>used to being interviewed, you know. Like it's like if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever like when you see somebody talking on a documentary,

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, a sit down interview, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not looking they're not staring directly into the camera. It's

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't hear it in the post because they

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<v Speaker 2>in the post production.

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<v Speaker 3>It's added out.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way to get that like most like you

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<v Speaker 2>would think some of those people are like actors or

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<v Speaker 2>they're trained, but no, it's a gifted person who's really

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<v Speaker 2>good at sitting in front of somebody and having a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation to where they truly don't even realize they're being interviewed.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just having a convo. The camera's not directly in

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<v Speaker 2>their face. Sure, it's off a little bit to the side,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know that. I kept trying to interview people

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of years, and sometimes you the only

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<v Speaker 2>ones I had somewhat success with were the drunk people,

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<v Speaker 2>which those can still be fun, but if it was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody sober and I was like, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I just came off a little too serious, like hey,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what you're doing here derby, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm enjoying the races, Like leave me alone, you weirdo.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Casually start a convo and then get it roll, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's usually when it when it works out best. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just, honestly, and I don't say this just to

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<v Speaker 2>gash you up, I feel like your personality, your demeanor

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<v Speaker 2>is one that would people would be pretty easy to

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, chat up.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank you know what I'm saying a lot? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>well you know you're meant Julob's help too.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, absolutely little liquid courage can can go a

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<v Speaker 2>long way.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just I just kind of mingle in, like

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<v Speaker 5>I know the people, so I actually start conversations with

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<v Speaker 5>people before by like just kind of telling them that, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, you know, you think I can get

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<v Speaker 5>an interview with you. I'm with eight forty w h.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, all I have is the the credentials out

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<v Speaker 5>there that they had to look at there's like I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have WHS suit or anything, or I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>the microphone with the flag on it because I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>doing it off my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you really this part?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just do it off my phone and I

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<v Speaker 5>send it to the lovely John Alden. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 5>he's going to be doing it again this year, but

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<v Speaker 5>that's usually who who I send them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm amazed by how good you can have me

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<v Speaker 2>Like it still is is noticeable if you're producing or

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<v Speaker 2>recording in a live production studio like we have here,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can get amazing quality of anything audio video

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<v Speaker 2>on your smartphones now, and I mean it it. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason I'm thinking of this is because last week, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you all were able to tell

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you could, but like I did my show

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<v Speaker 2>through a phone, like just a phone call, and that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I didn't. I didn't want to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>throughout because I didn't want to bring attention to it

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a weirdo about that stuff to where I

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<v Speaker 2>get like I'll bring it attention to stuff that most

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<v Speaker 2>listeners would never notice. But it's because I just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't the last thing I want is to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have any type of technical issues or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just my personality more than it is anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not something like I'm happy with. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>who I am. But Joe Elliott is filling in for

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Minors today and I was listening to him before

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<v Speaker 2>the show talking with with Gus. He wasn't live on

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<v Speaker 2>the air, but he was coming in like he would

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<v Speaker 2>be on the air in the control room and like

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<v Speaker 2>you would never know that he's on a phone just

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<v Speaker 2>having a phone call, Like it's crazy, how it's amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the the interview, like what I would do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know what you used this morning? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can plug that into a phone and it

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<v Speaker 2>and it records.

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<v Speaker 5>Like well I was going to ask, I didn't listen.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>well it's on the horse.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like, Like, if I'm not gonna I don't

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<v Speaker 2>plan on bringing into my own stuff because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>some production video audio stuff that I just have had

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. But like they have actual microphones that

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<v Speaker 2>you can connect to like a little recorder and that

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<v Speaker 2>actually will make it sound better and it will make

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<v Speaker 2>you probably be you know, it'll it'll seem a little

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<v Speaker 2>more I guess official to the person who's being interviewed.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean just because you can do it on

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<v Speaker 2>your phone and it'll still sound good and you can

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<v Speaker 2>just send the file to somebody like that's that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>the more convenient and efficient way to do it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The quality difference isn't noticeable enough to where like it

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<v Speaker 2>would really you would really need to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That, But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just something about carrying your phone around and interviewing

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<v Speaker 2>people that I like, I would try to avoid that

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<v Speaker 2>if I could. But that's just me because again, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a weirdo. Sure you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>and no, believe me, I sort of feel all the

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<v Speaker 2>way with you. That's why I feel I got to

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<v Speaker 2>butter them up and let them know who I am

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<v Speaker 2>before I just they just don't think I'm just this

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<v Speaker 2>wacko bulling out. Yeah, because the credential, like is all

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<v Speaker 2>you got to show that you are a big deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and like they need to know.

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<v Speaker 5>That because I always see when I introduce myself and

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<v Speaker 5>I ask I've done it. I've done a case study

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<v Speaker 5>every time I just introduce them, just just a just

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<v Speaker 5>a super cold open, just coming in with Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>on the radio, would you guys like to do an interview?

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<v Speaker 5>Their eyes immediately go down to the credentials, or they

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<v Speaker 5>might be looking at something else. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 5>just assume it's the credentials. So other than like me

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<v Speaker 5>just going in, hey, I like your suit. Where'd you

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<v Speaker 5>get that hat? You guys enjoining everything today? And then

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<v Speaker 5>they once they started asking like, oh what do you do?

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<v Speaker 5>What are you doing out here? Then that's a while

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<v Speaker 5>I'm with the news, and then you hit recorded in

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<v Speaker 5>your rolling when we're there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was a couple of years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 2>never even I never even put it out there because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't I did a few different vibe check videos

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<v Speaker 2>that I never put out because I just wasn't really cold.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel good about like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably fine, but like I developed, I think

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<v Speaker 2>to where we had a pretty good run with them,

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<v Speaker 2>I just abandoned them, which is probably really stupid because

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<v Speaker 2>I put a lot of time into that content and

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was you know, no, it's great something

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was seemingly going well for me. But

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<v Speaker 2>we did some at Derby and I was asking people

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<v Speaker 2>who were not from here, and I did not have

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<v Speaker 2>my credential, but I had, you know, had my blazer

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and I had one of our mics and

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<v Speaker 2>I had somebody with a camera that was helping me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would ask people.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, have you heard you know wh Nick Coffee is

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<v Speaker 2>and they would be like no, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's his radio hos. He's a real he's a real clown,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh know of you you know, And most people

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<v Speaker 2>like it played out the way that I wanted, But

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<v Speaker 2>there was a drunk person that I could tell did

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<v Speaker 3>Know that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you heard him. He's a real dumbass.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't even know why people listen to him,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, well you know what station's he on now?

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<v Speaker 2>They got him on I think he's on that rock

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<v Speaker 2>station now And I'm like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, that's doing But you know, so that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I would tell people about being nervous about it before,

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<v Speaker 2>that is the biggest thing is just to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you know. It's because I can tell within the

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good interview for the for the for the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>or if I'm just gonna you know, small talk and

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<v Speaker 2>and not even like I've ordered many that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't use that, but I don't tell the people that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, yeah, you'll be on us ready, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for your time. And like you were a real

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<v Speaker 2>dud or you cursed a bunch when I told you

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<v Speaker 2>that you couldn't. But like doing the vibe check stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is so different than like I mean that this is

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<v Speaker 5>You don't indulge in cigars, do you? No, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Never, never smoked a cigar, never smoked a cigarette, never

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<v Speaker 2>smoked anything, And I remember anything never, And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>like I would say that when I was young adult,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom and my stepdad would be like, oh yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was doing so here I am at thirty six, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason for me to lie about that now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I indulge in other things to give

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<v Speaker 2>me a similar feelings as what you would get by

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<v Speaker 2>smoking something. But you know, I've never and honestly, here's

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's rare, not extremely rare. But I

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<v Speaker 2>would say more often than not, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>in my age would have at least smoked a cigarette

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<v Speaker 2>or smoked a joint or something. Right, Yeah, so like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's I feel like it's pretty common, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something that I think you should be ashamed of.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was never offered not to say that I

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had the fear of, like if I

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to get in trouble and then it

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<v Speaker 2>I was very, very very paranote about getting in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid. And I don't really know why because

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<v Speaker 2>I never really did get in trouble and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>Would have, you know, put me in any position.

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<v Speaker 4>But as your health person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as I've said before, I watched a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>really really aware of the fact that I wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>on the straight and narrow and not end up there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like I've I've never been in a position

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<v Speaker 2>where somebody offered me a cigarette, where they offered me

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<v Speaker 2>like I've been around people who are smoking pot, Like

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never completely skip you. Yeah, I guess I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not good blunt rotation material. I mean that's just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's something I accepted long ago, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been working on it, but you know, so far it's

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<v Speaker 3>So I maybe maybe I just gave.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I just begged nonchalantly for like the biggest invitation

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<v Speaker 2>for somebody to roll up with me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, what you were doing, I

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<v Speaker 4>was so listen. My mom always smoked.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to wake up and like get down ready

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<v Speaker 5>for school, and like the the house would be smoky.

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<v Speaker 5>Like my mom would like probably smoke a cigarette before

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<v Speaker 5>she took her first breath and she stopped now and

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<v Speaker 5>she was I mean she she was crushing them, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>And I always hate it, just burn. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I still like, I'm not a regular smoker, but

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<v Speaker 5>get me at the bar on a nice night and

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<v Speaker 5>oh yeah, there's you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hand me one of those and then we're good.

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<v Speaker 5>It's some of the best conversations have came with you

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<v Speaker 5>got a light?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Or can I boma sick? Actually? You know what

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<v Speaker 4>that sort? And I've done that.

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<v Speaker 5>Before at the track several times too. I just have

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<v Speaker 5>a drink at Boma sig off with somebody and then

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, hey, you want to be on the radio.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it's a good time. It's a good way to

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<v Speaker 5>do it. That's a So it's my pickup line.

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<v Speaker 2>So when it comes to cigars, how does one like

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<v Speaker 2>Cause I feel like you have to give some effort

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of get into that. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that I know that, Like, I've got a buddy

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<v Speaker 2>who I would be willing to bet has probably never

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<v Speaker 2>smoked marijuana or a cigarette just because we grew up

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of the same. In fact, he's very much

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<v Speaker 2>into like he was very much a church kid and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a little bit of a different lifestyle than

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<v Speaker 2>I had as a young and but he's really like

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<v Speaker 2>he's like i'd say, cigars are like a hobby of his,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's a thing. So because people, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>so I love the smell of cigars. I've just never

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<v Speaker 2>actually like, can I tell you something really embarrassing? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't know how to smoke something like I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I would try, and I would be the one that like,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it was the lightest hit, as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be coughing as if like I'm a thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old who just got handed his first cigarette probably

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, so I guess you got to start

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere that would be good. So that might be good

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<v Speaker 2>social media content. Let's just see what Nick does the

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<v Speaker 2>first time he ever tries to smoke something.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I was always told to kind of use

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<v Speaker 5>it like a straw, if that makes sense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>but you're obviously you're talking monster bong rips or what. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm well, you know who you're talking to.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess not. I didn't really well.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, well, I mean like, yeah, that's what was with

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<v Speaker 5>my cousin. And oh yeah, blame it on your cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just you're a good kid.

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<v Speaker 2>The cousin got in the way influenced you to do

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<v Speaker 5>The thing is, I just waited till I was after

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen and after I graduated school. And uh, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>anytime I guess you smoke anything, whether that be a

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<v Speaker 5>dube or a cigarette or a cigar, it's just more

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<v Speaker 5>or less just kind of you wouldn't You wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 5>once once you put hands to me, you would know.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you got me thinking back to my younger years,

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<v Speaker 2>when I, like I I didn't drink alcohol.

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<v Speaker 3>I I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably like two different instances where I was at a

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<v Speaker 2>party and people were drinking some were like people that

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<v Speaker 2>were a little bit older than me, either seniors, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was a junior or sophomore. And and then we

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<v Speaker 2>still partied with and hung out with people that were

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<v Speaker 2>like a year older than us right after high school,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, around that people around my age range,

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<v Speaker 2>and like drinking was going on, and I remember, like

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<v Speaker 2>I tried, I tried to drink of something. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I took like some Jaeger. And then there was this drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember a drink called hypnotic.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, with the with the cool bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the tea. They still don't still make that, do

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<v Speaker 3>they still make it?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So like that was the that was like if if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in high school was going to get somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>buy them booze, like they would get liquor, like, you know, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>what is what's the what's the real rough vodka? That's

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<v Speaker 2>like I'd be heaven Hill you Yeah, so we would

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<v Speaker 2>get like heaven Hill vodka and just mixed drinks. But I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I genuinely didn't like the taste of alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never was somebody that was eager to like

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<v Speaker 2>see what it felt like to get a buzz, So

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know. It wasn't like I was some prude.

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, I didn't partake, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>delusional thinking, well, I'm gonna you know, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>impact my basketball career, which clearly wouldn't have mattered.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I was going into my freshman year of.

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<v Speaker 2>College, that was the first time i'd ever actually like

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<v Speaker 2>drink alcohol enough to like, you know, get a buzz,

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<v Speaker 2>get drunk right.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably took a couple of beers, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>With you, and it was vodka first, you said, Jaeger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, So I got probably got like drunk

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time on Yaeger. And this was the

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<v Speaker 2>summer after I graduated. And then a couple of my

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<v Speaker 2>buddies they'd started to like, Okay, we're gonna drink beer now.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I'll say it, I drink beer a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had to. I think everybody has to acquire

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<v Speaker 2>the taste of beer. I mean so, and there's still

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<v Speaker 2>people I know that now drink but just don't really

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<v Speaker 2>like they're they're not eager to drink beer. They're more

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<v Speaker 2>so going to get a cocktail or a seltzer. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even you know, just some people drink straight liquor, just

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<v Speaker 2>depending on if it's like high it's high quality.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody's got their own preference.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I remember being young, eighteen nineteen, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still thinking, like, man, I'll pound some of these natty lights,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to lie to you and say

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<v Speaker 2>I like the taste of them, right, But eventually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it changes.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got caught.

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<v Speaker 2>I got caught that summer drinking, you know, having a

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<v Speaker 2>party with a bunch of beer. And it was the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I like got drunk on beer. And at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, I guess like I'd committed, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>can stand, I can live with the taste. And then

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<v Speaker 2>surely over time I began to like beer, and now

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<v Speaker 2>was born and now I'm craving beer right now. But

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<v Speaker 2>I told, I told my parents that I had never

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<v Speaker 2>like that was the first time that I'd ever you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like pounded beers. Because they found a bunch of beer

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<v Speaker 2>cans that we left behind, and that's how we got caught.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just me, it was a bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 2>So but they were like, oh yeah, real convenient the

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<v Speaker 2>time you get caught. That was the first time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like beer's disgusting. No I've drink Oh yeah, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you would say. And I'm like okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm telling you, like it's not like I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had any alcohol before, but like beer is gross and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't don't typically like to drink it. And they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh yeah, you're just trying to get over

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<v Speaker 2>on us. I'm like all right, whatever. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, maybe I'm different than others,

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<v Speaker 2>but has anybody ever had their first taste of beer

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<v Speaker 2>that you can remember, like when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know people who this is probably the Bullet

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<v Speaker 2>that like their parents would let them try beer because

424
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<v Speaker 2>they wanted them to taste how gross it was, so

425
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<v Speaker 2>they'd never so they'd never sneak in and drink some

426
00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:40.240
<v Speaker 2>of them, like it was more so just to make

427
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<v Speaker 2>sure you wouldn't drink it. So even when you have

428
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<v Speaker 2>your first one that's like handed to you and you

429
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<v Speaker 2>want to drink it, like I would imagine most people don't.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Really enjoy the taste of it, right, I Mean, let's

431
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<v Speaker 3>be real.

432
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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people I grew up with when we

433
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<v Speaker 2>were drinking between the age of seventeen and like twenty one.

434
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<v Speaker 2>We weren't doing it for anything other than to get hampered, right.

435
00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.079
<v Speaker 2>We weren't doing it to you know, to you know,

436
00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.720
<v Speaker 2>sample different alcoholic beverages to see what we like, or

437
00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:08.960
<v Speaker 2>just to you know, get a nice get a nice

438
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<v Speaker 2>taste of a red red cabernet, or you know.

439
00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we were.

440
00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Getting the cheapest stuff possible, mixing it and trying to

441
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<v Speaker 2>get the effects of it. So but yeah, I.

442
00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:20.079
<v Speaker 4>Was, I was.

443
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<v Speaker 3>Pretty I don't know.

444
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<v Speaker 2>The older I get, the more I realize that I was,

445
00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I was pretty mild mannered compared to i'd say the average.

446
00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't like I was some choir boy

447
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<v Speaker 2>who never had any fun. But you know, I didn't

448
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<v Speaker 2>live as much as a lot of people, and I

449
00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:35.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of I don't know if I regret that or not.

450
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<v Speaker 2>But now that we're talking about it, like, I don't

451
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<v Speaker 2>think I knew at the time that.

452
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<v Speaker 3>I really liked to party.

453
00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Now at thirty six, I'm confirmed party big time guy.

454
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<v Speaker 5>Could you see yourself partying with your younger self, your

455
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<v Speaker 5>twenty year old self.

456
00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Now, no, because that person wouldn't be interesting.

457
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<v Speaker 2>There wouldn't be relatable, like wouldn't be like I wouldn't

458
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<v Speaker 2>be a good I wouldn't be a good vibe enhancement,

459
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<v Speaker 2>if you know what I'm saying. But I'm now looking

460
00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:05.240
<v Speaker 2>forward to like my son getting older to where like

461
00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:08.319
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, like to this day. This is gonna

462
00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:11.240
<v Speaker 2>sound really corny, but like there's nothing cooler than like

463
00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:13.680
<v Speaker 2>having a beer with my dad talking about life and

464
00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:16.400
<v Speaker 2>me being a dad and him being you know, a

465
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<v Speaker 2>grandpa and that kind of stuff. So one day, Moose,

466
00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:21.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, he'll be of age, trust me, and we'll

467
00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:24.119
<v Speaker 2>have a beer together and crack one and he'll hopefully

468
00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.440
<v Speaker 2>he'll he'll spit it out and say this is disgusting,

469
00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.559
<v Speaker 2>because if so, then I'll know, Yeah, he wasn't pounding

470
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<v Speaker 2>him in high school behind my back, although I don't

471
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<v Speaker 2>know his name's Moose.

472
00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Like he's gonna be the.

473
00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Beer drinker of the group, right, and he's a big fella,

474
00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:38.400
<v Speaker 2>like he's he's you know.

475
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<v Speaker 5>He's going to be the one that has like the

476
00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.000
<v Speaker 5>camel back, yeah, like with the beer at place.

477
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<v Speaker 2>If he if he ends up like being the guy

478
00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that is, you know, the beer drinker providing it, maybe

479
00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:51.480
<v Speaker 2>he's got a party trick where he pounds one and

480
00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.119
<v Speaker 2>crushes it over his head. I'll have to also look

481
00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.359
<v Speaker 2>in the mirror and blame myself. You did name him moose,

482
00:19:57.640 --> 00:19:59.039
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like, that's that that that

483
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<v Speaker 2>kind of kind of and help a situation.

484
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<v Speaker 4>There not even madam just depressed.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's get to a quick break. We'll

486
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<v Speaker 2>come back on the other side talk a little more

487
00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.319
<v Speaker 2>about this. This matchup we're gonna get between Mark Pope

488
00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:13.279
<v Speaker 2>and Rick Patino in the CBS Sports Classic, Big Time

489
00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.759
<v Speaker 2>matchup for college hoops, for sure, But is it weird

490
00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:17.519
<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky? Like are they going to have any kind

491
00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of Oh, we're going up again, because there's nothing you

492
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.319
<v Speaker 2>wanted more than to beat Rick's brains in when he

493
00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.599
<v Speaker 2>was at Louisville. But I don't think you feel the

494
00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.319
<v Speaker 2>exact same way now. You clearly want to win. You're

495
00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.559
<v Speaker 2>not saying, oh, I hope Rick gets one over Pope.

496
00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:31.559
<v Speaker 2>But it's just a reminder. This news coming out today

497
00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:36.640
<v Speaker 2>is a reminder for me of how crazy I mean,

498
00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Like we would have never expected Rick to have any

499
00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:44.680
<v Speaker 2>type of warm welcome in Lexington, and he did so. Anyways,

500
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<v Speaker 2>Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven.

501
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

502
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven to nine.

503
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Day, we'll let you hear a brief back and forth

504
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 2>between Mark Pope and and Rick Pattino from earlier. Today

505
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>is Day confirmed that they are going to meet in

506
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:05.319
<v Speaker 2>just a year two. For Mark Pope, the former Kentucky

507
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Wildcat who was a captain for Patino on that championship

508
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>team in ninety six, he's now in his second season

509
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>coaching his alma mater and he's gonna be going up

510
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>against his former head coach. Which somebody reminded me of

511
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>this and I totally forgot about it. Mark Pope brought

512
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>his Utah Valley team to the Youum Center to play Rick,

513
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and I don't remember that being like a real big

514
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>like storyline, if that makes sense. Now, it's a random

515
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>game in like November, December or whatever, So I mean,

516
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>it's not like it would ever get a lot of attention.

517
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 2>But you know, for as much as Rick has just

518
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>gone out of his way to kind of inject himself

519
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>into this whole story of Pope coming back to Kentucky

520
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.359
<v Speaker 2>to coach, you know, I just I feel like if

521
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>it was, like if there really was such a strong

522
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 2>connection between former co I mean, clearly he was a

523
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.559
<v Speaker 2>good player for him and he was the captain, so

524
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>he was a leader on a team that coach that

525
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>that that Rick you know, wanted won a title with.

526
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean I I I forgot all about that.

527
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>In fact, I questioned if the if the the Texter

528
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>was even if it was it was for real, but no,

529
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up and yeah, Utah Valley he was

530
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 2>there in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and that's when he

531
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>brought him to the Louisville And I don't remember there

532
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.920
<v Speaker 2>being any like I remember now him coaching because I

533
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>remember Pope for the Pope if you remember, Pope played

534
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>for Pacers, so like when Reggie and that era was

535
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.359
<v Speaker 2>going on, and I was really all into the Pacers.

536
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, Pope was the guy they had drafted and

537
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>he was on the team and they played for him

538
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>for two years. But I didn't even know he was coaching.

539
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I remember, oh yeah, like I remember that guy, didn't

540
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.759
<v Speaker 2>know he was coaching at Utah Valley State. So I'm

541
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>sure there is a genuine relationship, But it also wouldn't

542
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>shock me if Rick is maybe doing it up a

543
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit because he wants to make it about him.

544
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Because Rick is really good at a lot of things.

545
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 2>One of those things is making everything about him. But

546
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.799
<v Speaker 2>here are the two on a I guess a FaceTime

547
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 2>call discussing the discussing the big matchup here in the

548
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>CBS Sports Classic.

549
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 7>It's thirty years since you won your first national championship

550
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 7>and I got mine thanks to you, and I think

551
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 7>we should give the Johnnies and all of BBN the

552
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 7>greatest Christmas gift ever on December twenty and CATLANDA, what

553
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 7>do you say?

554
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 5>You know?

555
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.680
<v Speaker 8>It's it feels like it was about seven eight years.

556
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 4>Ago that we won the championship.

557
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 7>But I coached one of the greatest teams in the

558
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 7>history of the game, and you were the captain, and

559
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.880
<v Speaker 7>now we get to coach against each other. I'm just

560
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 7>turning sixty years of age and you're still young.

561
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 6>I can't wait, Coach.

562
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 7>I love you so much, man, Let's go make this happens.

563
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 7>Love you, Mark.

564
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 4>Let's go and be so exciting for both programs.

565
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 8>And I look forward to a great Christmas.

566
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>So you know that was pretty it is pretty fluff, right,

567
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot there, but uh, this is like Rick,

568
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, he needs this game more so than

569
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky would. And that's the same thing when it comes

570
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to the Louisville matchup. And I mentioned this at the

571
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the show. I don't know if anybody was

572
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>able to I'm not sure if those with us now

573
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 2>were with us, then hopefully there's many of you.

574
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying, like.

575
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>The Louisville Kentucky or the Louisville and Saint John's matchup

576
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that got put out there a couple of weeks ago

577
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>from and I understand, like Rick exaggerated sort of where

578
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 2>they were in the process of that. I think it's

579
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>been thrown out there, but like any talk of it

580
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>actually happening next season in the Garden, as Rick indicated again,

581
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I think he's getting a little bit ahead of himself.

582
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's because you know, playing Rick Patino if you're Kentucky,

583
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>or playing Rick Btino if you're Louisville. I mean, I'll

584
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>put it this way, Kentucky it's a favor to him

585
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 2>because they play in the SEC, which is loaded, and

586
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 2>they also play in the Champions they already were in

587
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 2>the Champions clas and Saint John's has now got has

588
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 2>now jumped in and taken UCLA spot. But also, you know,

589
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>they're in the CBS Sports Classic, I'm sorry, in the

590
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Champions Classic, and you know, they played a tough enough

591
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 2>schedule to where they're not gonna have to worry about

592
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 2>having a schedule that, at the end of the season

593
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 2>is tough enough to get you in the tournament.

594
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Louisville didn't used to be in that position, but.

595
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Now they are, so I guess adding Rick to the

596
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>schedule could give you a chance to have a really

597
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 2>good non conference opponent, and clearly we need that as

598
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 2>ACC members now just because of how far the league

599
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:35.279
<v Speaker 2>has fallen. But overall, like Louisville could also go schedule

600
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody else that's not Saint John's and Beatino and still

601
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>give themselves a chance to go get a really good win.

602
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think Rick wants both of these games because one,

603
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it will help Saint John's because they will be playing

604
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>in non conference games against two big brands. But also,

605
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think Rick knows that like he's.

606
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Going to be.

607
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Cheered and applauded when it comes to Kentucky fans in

608
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 2>this game now, they're not going to want him to win.

609
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>But on the Louisville side of things, here's what I

610
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Like, does Rick want this because he wants

611
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to stick it to us? I kind of feel like

612
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the case. I really do, And even if there

613
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was no history, like you always want to win. But

614
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I think Rick, I think he still has an issue

615
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 2>with with with Louisville the way things went down. And

616
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I think honestly, despite him making it back and having

617
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 2>a hell of a year, winning National Coach of the

618
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Year a share of it this year, I mean, they

619
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 2>had a really good team and they just fell short

620
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 2>in the second round. But you know, I think he's

621
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>really content and happy now. But I do think like

622
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the you know, anybody would probably still feel a certain

623
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 2>way for him to you know, to have lost their

624
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>job that way now. Again, he also, I think multiple instances,

625
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>has said that he understands why he got fired and

626
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>like he knows why they did it, but he's also

627
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, like put it this way, when his son

628
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 2>was a candidate, I suppose like Richard did get a

629
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 2>phone call when the job opened up last year and

630
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>it and it ended up being something that U of

631
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 2>L did not pursue. They were going to go in

632
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a different direction, but they did, you know, reach out

633
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and talk to him, and as you could expect, Richard

634
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>was interested because obviously, going from New Mexico to Louisvie

635
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>would be a big jump, but what does it do

636
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>for the family? And Richard later came out and talked

637
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>about how that would be, like it would have been

638
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 2>an issue, like it wouldn't have been a comfortable comp

639
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>like basically, I don't think his dad would have tried

640
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 2>to stop him, but his dad probably didn't want him

641
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.039
<v Speaker 2>to take that job, and I'm pretty sure he told

642
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>him that. So I don't, you know, I think if

643
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Richard was up for the UK job, I don't think

644
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Rick would feel the same way. I think he would

645
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>like want his son to get it, or Rick wouldn't

646
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 2>get it himself, to be honest with you, So you know,

647
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I just think the scenarios here are really different. Like

648
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky in Rick's eyes, never wronged him, because you know,

649
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 2>he left them and he wronged them in their eyes

650
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 2>understandably so because he chose to go to the rival

651
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and picked Louisville, over, you know, Michigan, and then of course,

652
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was.

653
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 3>Pretty playful in whatever.

654
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Although I will say when I'll never forget it when

655
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Rick walked into Reperena the first time as the Louisville

656
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>coach and heard the booze. I mean, I don't know

657
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>if he said it publicly, but those who know him

658
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>have talked about it that he was he could not

659
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 2>believe and had zero expectation to hear booze like that.

660
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you, you go back and watch it. The

661
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>body language shifts to where he was visibly stunned, like

662
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 2>he didn't you know, he has a good poker face,

663
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like I don't think he looked like wide eyed and scared,

664
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't stop in his tracks, but like there

665
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>was a shift in his body language because he was

666
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>on he could not believe that they bowed him. And

667
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 2>you got to keep in mind this was just four

668
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 2>years after he left, and at that point he was

669
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a made man. I mean, he was a rock star.

670
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>He brought Kentucky back from the dead essentially. I mean

671
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>they were in there. I mean, Kentucky was in a

672
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>bad way as a program when he took over, and

673
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 2>by the time he left, they were on track to

674
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>just continue to be the best program in the country

675
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>with no end in sight had he not taken the

676
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Celtics job. So you know, he just thought, I I

677
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>for what I did for this fan base and for

678
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 2>how far down they were, and I propped them up,

679
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 2>and hell, they got a second title off of my

680
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>players with Hubby Smith. I don't think he's ever said

681
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that publicly, but like Rick just assumed there was no

682
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>scenario he'd ever not be loved and worshiped because he

683
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>was loved and worshiped in a way that, like you know,

684
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>only coaches at places like Kentucky get loved and worshiped.

685
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>But he also is a really good reminder that, like

686
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>no coach is bigger than any program. Yeah, we appreciate you,

687
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>but you are now coaching the team we hate. It's

688
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>a rivalry, so you know, the hell with you until

689
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe one day you lead Louisville. And of course now

690
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>we see that that doesn't seem to be the same

691
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>feeling that a lot of Kentucky fans have now because

692
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>they do realize that despite him going and the Louisville

693
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>the rival, he did have a big impact in Kentucky

694
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 2>basketball being able.

695
00:35:57.960 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 3>To maintain the brand that they have.

696
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 2>But he and no one else is bigger than that job,

697
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>just like nobody's bigger than the maleives of basketball. So

698
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>with Rick, like I think the can for those for

699
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 2>those that are thinking that one day they'll be the

700
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>same level of.

701
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I guess what do you call it when you when

702
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 3>you reunite?

703
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>And I guess just move on and start anew and

704
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Speaker 2>don't look back at the past. Like from the from

705
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Rick's perspective on the Kentucky side, the only thing he

706
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>could he would probably claim that they did that he

707
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't like is that they hired Caliperi, a guy who

708
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 2>he hates. So he probably was hoping for this day

709
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to where cal wouldn't be there. And what do you know,

710
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>the guy that comes and takes the job as a

711
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>former player of his to where now he can you know,

712
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>really let it be part of his brand that he's

713
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>a you know, he's he's he's BBN. So I'm not

714
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>defending Rick in any way because look, let's be real,

715
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like Rick got away with a lot of stuff here

716
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.159
<v Speaker 2>that most wouldn't. I think the Katina pal thing, despite it,

717
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>in my belief, not being anything he had any direct

718
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 2>doing or any knowledge of, it still happened, and most coaches.

719
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Would just be the sacrifice.

720
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 2>They would they would be the sacrifice of Lamb, right,

721
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>they would be they'd be let go just because of

722
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the optics of what went on at a program that

723
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, is one that we care about. That like,

724
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you would never expect anything like that to happen. The

725
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Karen Cipher stuff is a little different because that that

726
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 2>is very much his personal life. But also like when

727
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you're the Lois of basketball coach, you're not just the

728
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>love of basketball coach. You are a different figure around

729
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 2>here than most. You're the most when things are going well,

730
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you you kind of run this town. I mean, that's

731
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the way it is. So rick by the time, like

732
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>by the time he got let go, even if we

733
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 2>knew at the time that maybe he had little to

734
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the Brian Bowen situation, despite the

735
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>FBI's documents, like it's still like, look, you can't keep

736
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 2>you can't keep having this stuff happen. I mean he

737
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 2>even said as much. So he's you know, I think

738
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 2>it made sense that you moved on from him when

739
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.400
<v Speaker 2>you did. But I think the way it played out

740
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>has left Rick to wear I don't know if he'll

741
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 2>ever not have that Like what Louisville did to him,

742
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>in his mind is something that like he still believes

743
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 2>is really really wrong, and he's a victim. With Kentucky,

744
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>they never did anything to him. He left them, so like,

745
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I just think you're gonna see him much more eager

746
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and joyful to be a part of Kentucky than Louisville

747
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 2>because of the obvious differences in how things came to

748
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 2>an end.

749
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Now with.

750
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, with Rick, like we've talked about this before,

751
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>who's he mad at? Like the situation itself like sucks,

752
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 2>but overall, like there were three people that he really

753
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>really blamed for his downfall at Louisville as far as

754
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>getting fired David Grissom, Papa John John Schnatterer who used

755
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 2>to be on the board, and Greg Postal if you

756
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 2>remember Greg Postal, who was our interim president.

757
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 3>I think for a little while, like those were three things.

758
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I think Rick specifically blames all three of them for everything,

759
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 2>and that you know, it was a witch hunt and

760
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.239
<v Speaker 2>they were looking to you know, he told the story

761
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I told, I told my coaches don't even don't even

762
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:12.719
<v Speaker 2>get caught Jay walkin. They're they're they're trying to bring

763
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>us down, an exact quote I think from Rick. So

764
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>he should understand that, like, none of those people are

765
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 2>around anymore, And honestly, it sucks that they were even

766
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 2>in the position they were in to have influence on

767
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 2>him getting canned, because like, you know, everything good about

768
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>his time at Louisville, as far as the people along

769
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the way are all people that I'm sure he still

770
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>loves and everything, you know, including fans, Like I don't

771
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 2>think Rick relates to fans quite like other coaches do,

772
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.320
<v Speaker 2>but I mean think he realizes he had great fans

773
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 2>support when he was here, nothing like, you know, way

774
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 2>more than he'll ever have at Saint John's. So I

775
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>just wish Rick would you know, he's easier said than done, though,

776
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>because again, think about embarrassing that whole thing was for

777
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 2>him when he locked the doors in my office, changed

778
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the locks, but he was pretty upset about it, understandably so,

779
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>but that whole thing, whoever you're angry at, like if

780
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 2>whoever you think was responsible for it, they're not affiliated

781
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 2>at all anymore around here. And also they were never

782
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>really a part of the success either, Like you didn't

783
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>get betrayed, it was just bad timing to where people

784
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 2>were in position to, you know, take action on some stuff,

785
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>and they took action on getting rid of you. Now,

786
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.280
<v Speaker 2>let's also not act like you didn't give them an

787
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to, you know, feel comfortable and confident in a

788
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 2>swift exit and firing you with calls and not paying

789
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you any money, which is how it played out. So yeah,

790
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we'll see a Louisville Rick Patino reunion in

791
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>some fashion at some point, but I don't think it'll

792
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.119
<v Speaker 2>be anything like the Kentucky one. And I kind of

793
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>think it makes sense to be honest with you quick

794
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<v Speaker 2>break keep you locked out here On Sports Talk seven ninety.

795
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<v Speaker 4>I heard on the news about that five year old

796
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:57.159
<v Speaker 4>who found his uncle's gun.

797
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 9>The kid didn't know it was loaded.

798
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I heard on the news about that fourteen year old

799
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>girl who is bullied online for like a year. She

800
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't take it anymore, so she got her dad's gun

801
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 2>from his nightstone.

802
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 3>I heard on the news about that guy who broke

803
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 3>into someone's house stole a gun from.

804
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 8>The hall closet.

805
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 4>He accidentally shot his cousin.

806
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 6>In the head.

807
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 3>She killed herself and later killed the owner of the

808
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 3>store he was trying to wrong.

809
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 8>If you own a gun, you have a full time responsibility.

810
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 8>When you aren't using it, be sure it can't get

811
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<v Speaker 8>into the hands of curious children, troubled teenagers, a thief,

812
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<v Speaker 8>or anyone else who might misuse it. Your family, friends,

813
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<v Speaker 8>and neighbors are all counting on you. Remember always lock

814
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<v Speaker 8>it up. For more information on firearms storage safety, visit

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<v Speaker 8>NCPC dot org. This message brought to you by the

816
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<v Speaker 8>National Crime Prevention Council, the Bureau of Justice Assistants, and

817
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<v Speaker 8>the ad Council.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, as we wrap up the four o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go ahead and get another Derby profile from the

822
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:26.199
<v Speaker 2>one and only Jody Dimmling.

823
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<v Speaker 1>Now look at the Kentucky Derby field one by one Sandman.

824
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 6>Arkansas Derby winner. Sand Man is one of the most expensive,

825
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 6>one of the most race and one of the most

826
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 6>popular horses in this year's Kentucky Derby field. A gray

827
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.719
<v Speaker 6>and Rowan's son of tap It. Sandman is beautiful out

828
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 6>on the track and always draws the railbirds attention when

829
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 6>he is working out in the mornings. Is a one

830
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 6>point two million dollar purchase from the twenty two twenty

831
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<v Speaker 6>four oh Calibreeders March Sale, and he has eight career

832
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:09.239
<v Speaker 6>starts already, three wins, a second and two third place finishes,

833
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 6>one point two five million dollars in the bank all

834
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 6>ready for this closer. Sandman trying to capture Mark Cassie's

835
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<v Speaker 6>first Kentucky Derby winner. Cassie the veteran trainer oh for

836
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 6>ten in the Derby Classic Empire finished fourth in two

837
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:30.119
<v Speaker 6>thy seventeen jockey Jose Ortiz Oh for nine. He was

838
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.239
<v Speaker 6>second aboard Good Magic in two thousand and eighteen. Sandman

839
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<v Speaker 6>is owned by DJ Stables, Saint Elias Stable and West

840
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 6>Point Thoroughbreds. They teamed up to win with Always Dreaming

841
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<v Speaker 6>in two thousand and seventeen. Sandman opened his career at

842
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<v Speaker 6>Churchill Downs with a fifth place finish back in late June.

843
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<v Speaker 6>He broke his maiden at Saratoga. In early August, he

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<v Speaker 6>was fifth in the Iroquois Stakes at Churchill Downs before

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<v Speaker 6>finishing third to Sovereignty and Tims Tastic, both in the

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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky Derby Field on October twenty seven at Churchill Downs

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<v Speaker 6>in the Street Set Steaks. Cassie didn't play sand Man

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<v Speaker 6>in Allowance Optional Claiming Race, where he won. In early

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<v Speaker 6>December at Oakland Park, he was second in the Southwest Stakes,

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<v Speaker 6>third in the Rebel Stakes, and then he came flying

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<v Speaker 6>down the center of the track at Oakland Park on

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<v Speaker 6>March twenty ninth to win the Arkansas Derby by two

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<v Speaker 6>and a half links. He did we even duck around

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit in the Arkansas Derby. Back in the

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<v Speaker 6>Southwest Stakes a bad break. He has been in trouble

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<v Speaker 6>in pretty much each of his last three races. Cassie

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<v Speaker 6>said he believes this horse has grown up and he

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<v Speaker 6>believes Sandman can take him to the Kentucky Derby winner circle.

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<v Speaker 9>My son used to pitch baseball, and I'd always say,

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<v Speaker 9>when we win, we win.

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<v Speaker 4>When we lose, we learn.

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<v Speaker 9>So he's done some learning, and you know things get

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<v Speaker 9>tight and tough the Derby. He's going to have the

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<v Speaker 9>experience of many other stone, so you know we'll need

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<v Speaker 9>some luck. There's no question in my mind that he's

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<v Speaker 9>going to enjoy the mile and a quarter more than

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<v Speaker 9>probably most so, those are two big plusses that we

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<v Speaker 9>have going for.

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<v Speaker 6>US Arkansas Derby winner sand Man

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<v Speaker 8>Passsssssssssssssssssssss