Speaker 1: Now here's nick coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, So we now know that the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: where the uh, the Eagles got it done for us, right,
Speaker 2: the uh those of us that are in the haters
Speaker 2: club of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Man, we had a good night on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Chiefs got blown out, Taylor Swift gets booed, Travis Kelsey's.
Speaker 3: Boohooing My home stunk. I mean it was. It was
Speaker 3: really exactly what what we wanted.
Speaker 4: Kelsey's wearing that ridiculous outfit. Did you see that?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's fit. I saw it yesterday for the first time,
Speaker 3: actually saw.
Speaker 4: It out all sad.
Speaker 2: But when he showed up looking like, you know, like
Speaker 2: a peaky blinders looking, I mean it was.
Speaker 3: It was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And you know obviously that a lot of pro athletes
Speaker 2: where things that probably cost more than our homes. But
Speaker 2: you know, they it's it's fashion, it's style. We wouldn't relate.
Speaker 2: But one of the it might have been I don't remember.
Speaker 2: It was on Twitter, one of these very well followed
Speaker 2: accounts that you know is more satire, but they just
Speaker 2: posted the screen the picture of Kelsey when he arrived
Speaker 2: in his outfit and said, imagine having to put this
Speaker 2: back on after that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's very fitting.
Speaker 4: So just got to walk out with joggers and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: Just put the hoodie on, bro.
Speaker 2: But anyways, the Super Bowl was the most watched super
Speaker 2: Bowl ever, averaging one hundred and twenty seven point seven
Speaker 2: million viewers across all Fox platforms. So, I mean, as
Speaker 2: much as there seemed to be some fatigue with the Chiefs,
Speaker 2: and I really do believe that the NFL season, like
Speaker 2: I said yesterday, just kind of didn't have It wasn't
Speaker 2: a great year, I feel like for the league. And
Speaker 2: I don't say that because my team didn't win or
Speaker 2: anything like that, but I mean, I think there were
Speaker 2: some real factors I had discuss I think Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: is is well.
Speaker 3: I think he's phenomenal. But I think when he has.
Speaker 2: A year where everybody's talking about how he's having a
Speaker 2: better season than he's ever had before, and oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, he's already got an MVP or two MVP
Speaker 2: trophies and the Ravens look great, and then they get
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and lose in their first postseason game
Speaker 2: or maybe their second one, that ends up being one
Speaker 2: really bad for Lamar, but it's also not good for
Speaker 2: the league. And I don't want to act like the
Speaker 2: league needs Lamar to be great, but your season is
Speaker 2: a story, right like this is entertainment, and some really
Speaker 2: notable stories throughout the season just didn't extend into the postseason.
Speaker 2: And Lamar maybe looking like getting Derrick Henry and look,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's still worth mentioning. But when you don't,
Speaker 2: when you're Lamar and you don't get it done in
Speaker 2: the playoffs and you've already proven you could be really
Speaker 2: great in the regular season, there's going to be a
Speaker 2: lot of folks underwhelmed when you fall short like he did.
Speaker 2: But you know, Lamar, I mean, the storyline for me
Speaker 2: was and I don't mean like my storyline, but this
Speaker 2: is how I viewed it, just the way I kind
Speaker 2: of felt the noise was shifting when it comes to
Speaker 2: Lamar and the Ravens being talked about this year was
Speaker 2: that this guy's even better than he's ever been and
Speaker 2: he's already got two MVPs and oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: they just added Derrick Henry, I mean, and then they
Speaker 2: fall flat and lose to the Bills. So you know
Speaker 2: that that that sucks for Lamar, but it also you know,
Speaker 2: it ended a story that could have carried into the
Speaker 2: postseason a little bit more.
Speaker 3: The Bills.
Speaker 2: I mean, they they were still a big part of it,
Speaker 2: but you know, I think they got into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, maybe there would have been even more viewers.
Speaker 3: I don't know. And then I talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 3: The Lions.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's weird to say, oh, the NFL needs
Speaker 2: the Lions, because the NFL has never had the Lions
Speaker 2: and they've been just fine without them the Lions. But
Speaker 2: but the lines were good this year, and that was
Speaker 2: that was clearly a storyline. So again, I don't think
Speaker 2: that the league had a great year, but that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that each and every year the league could get
Speaker 2: worse Next year, the regular season could be even worse
Speaker 2: the year after, and if we continue to see a
Speaker 2: bigger number of viewers for the Super Bowl, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be shocked. Because the NFL could have terrible seasons.
Speaker 2: The NFL could could take a huge hit, and people
Speaker 2: are still going to consume it like they can like
Speaker 2: nothing else, because it's the NFL. It's king so I'm
Speaker 2: not surprised at all to see that that one and
Speaker 2: twenty seven point seven million viewers was the average across
Speaker 2: all different Fox platforms and some of these numbers though,
Speaker 2: and we already had somebody text in and say this,
Speaker 2: and you're right.
Speaker 3: When you compare.
Speaker 2: Viewership now compared to five, six years ago, even further back,
Speaker 2: it is different because now, like if you had the
Speaker 2: Internet back in the day and you could watch on
Speaker 2: different platforms other than just your standard television. You could
Speaker 2: watch on an app like YouTube TV on your phone,
Speaker 2: or you could have a Roku, like the streaming world
Speaker 2: has definitely given us a bigger number like one and
Speaker 2: twenty seven point seven million.
Speaker 3: But I mean it's I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: Still it's still a record, right, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: what like, I don't know for example, if you've got
Speaker 2: a guy.
Speaker 3: Like the wh who's it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Sequon Barkley he broke the record that Terrell
Speaker 2: Owens had right where not Trell Owens, Buttrel Davis had
Speaker 2: where he had the most rushing yards in an entire
Speaker 2: season start to finish, And as we talked about yesterday,
Speaker 2: he was the first Sawan. Barkley was the first running
Speaker 2: back to lead the NFL and rushing and be a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion in the same season. It hadn't happened
Speaker 2: since Davis did it with the Broncos in ninety eight.
Speaker 2: So I do think it's worth mentioning when you talk
Speaker 2: about those numbers and you include the fact that they
Speaker 2: played more games.
Speaker 3: Now, you know what I'm saying, Like that matters.
Speaker 2: Like that, Like if I was somebody and maybe this
Speaker 2: is just me being you know, self absorbed, if I
Speaker 2: had a really impressive record that like was a part
Speaker 2: of my legacy that I was really proud of and
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was a big deal, I
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't be the guy because you'll clearly look like
Speaker 2: the guy. Nobody wants to look like the guy. But internally,
Speaker 2: I would think that you were really lame for telling
Speaker 2: somebody else they broke my record when they got an
Speaker 2: extra game to do it, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: it's just quite literally a different thing. So again, when
Speaker 2: you bring up that kind of stuff with records, I
Speaker 2: think it's worth mentioning. But like saying, well, hey, this
Speaker 2: super Bowl back in the eighties, had we had the internet,
Speaker 2: more people would have watched it. Well, you know you
Speaker 2: may be right, but we'll never no. All right, it's
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Speaker 2: a wet Tuesday afternoon. I'm not sure what it's doing
Speaker 2: outside right now, but I know when I got here
Speaker 2: about an hour and a half ago, it was I mean,
Speaker 2: freezing rain maybe. I mean it wasn't rain and it
Speaker 2: wasn't snow. It was something in between. And I know
Speaker 2: that it made a very light sound when it hit
Speaker 2: when it hit my vehicle, So I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's sleep. But the good news is we're gonna be
Speaker 2: staying abuff freezing, it looks like for the next couple
Speaker 2: of days, so it'll just be sloppy. I would imagine
Speaker 2: schools will be back tomorrow. Don't quote me on that.
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, but today's one of those
Speaker 2: days where they were able to do the you know,
Speaker 2: the cautious NTI remote learning thing, because they have the
Speaker 2: ability to do it. But I mean, if they knew
Speaker 2: exactly what we'd be dealing with today, I feel like
Speaker 2: today probably would have been.
Speaker 3: A regular school day for everybody.
Speaker 2: But you know, they're gonna always here on the side
Speaker 2: of caution, and uh, they always should be honest with you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're looking at these next uh, I mean really,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be aboff freezing from now until the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: We will get some more snow this there's some more
Speaker 2: I guess winter weather this evening. But like I'm seeing
Speaker 2: right now that we could get up to four inches
Speaker 2: in the in the region. But like where I'm at,
Speaker 2: it's not mean, it's not even I mean, it's sticking,
Speaker 2: but like not it's not really stacking up, if that
Speaker 2: makes sense. Maybe I'm just not getting as much snow
Speaker 2: where I'm at compared to others. But stay safe and
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Speaker 2: look like it's gonna be anything close to what we
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Speaker 2: This tech says Nick was Duke losing the Clemson actually
Speaker 2: good for the ACC or bad for the ACC. I
Speaker 2: guess it depends on who you talk to. I think
Speaker 2: for Louisville it was good because their best win is Clemson,
Speaker 2: and looking at their schedule not only what they've played
Speaker 2: so far and who they but also who they play
Speaker 2: the rest of the way, there's no scenario Clemson is
Speaker 2: not going to end up being your best win. So
Speaker 2: Clemson beating Duke and their resume getting better that helped Louisville.
Speaker 2: Now for the ACC, I mean, I don't really think
Speaker 2: it matters, to be honest with you, like Clemson, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it. It's not going to put anybody in
Speaker 2: like that isolated result Duke getting upset by Clemson on Saturday, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, Clemson beat the hell out of North
Speaker 2: Carolina last night, which that's got to be the death nail,
Speaker 2: right like body bag this Carolina season because somehow they
Speaker 2: keep losing and yet I don't know, huh, maybe this
Speaker 2: is gonna make it to where Carolina really has a
Speaker 2: tough time making the tournament. Carolina has lost five of
Speaker 2: seven games and they have no win we're speaking of,
Speaker 2: and some of their losses in those five out of
Speaker 2: seven were to bad teams that we know aren't making
Speaker 2: the tournament. So, like, I don't understand like how Carolina
Speaker 2: has still been able to stay alive. I think Louisville,
Speaker 2: I mean, I do believe that Louisville losing to any
Speaker 2: of these teams the rest of the way could substantially
Speaker 2: change how they're viewed as far as making the tournament.
Speaker 2: But when I see Carolina and Pittsburgh continue to lose
Speaker 2: and yet they still have I guess a chance when
Speaker 2: it comes to the bracketology experts out there that think
Speaker 2: they could still get in, Like maybe Louisville has a
Speaker 2: loss or two they could give up. You wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to risk it. But yeah, Duke losing it helped elevate
Speaker 2: Clemson and Louisville right now is the only team in
Speaker 2: the ACC that has beat Clemson that will make the tournament. Right,
Speaker 2: So Georgia Tech got him in, Louisville got them. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Clemson is sitting here in the top twenty
Speaker 2: five now in the net and then the kN Palm
Speaker 2: they're twenty and five overall and Louisville is the only
Speaker 2: team in the league to beat them. So I'm trying
Speaker 2: to give you a legitimate answer, but as I dance around,
Speaker 2: I think there really is no way to know for sure,
Speaker 2: and it didn't really have much of an impact on
Speaker 2: anybody outside of Louislle. Because again, if you are Carolina
Speaker 2: and last night you beat Clemson at their place, then yeah,
Speaker 2: that would be good because maybe that would put Carolina
Speaker 2: in a better spot to potentially make the tournament, and
Speaker 2: Clemson beating Duke would have made that win more valuable.
Speaker 2: But right now, louis I think it to answer your question,
Speaker 2: I think it benefited Louisville and really nobody else, of
Speaker 2: being honest with you, So I think it still comes
Speaker 2: down to just how the bubble bounces. When it comes
Speaker 2: to Duke.
Speaker 3: They're in.
Speaker 2: They lost to Clemson and their resume didn't change. There's
Speaker 2: still a one seed. Clemson is safely in. I think
Speaker 2: Louisville right now is safely in as of now, and
Speaker 2: then outside of that you got Wake Forest SMU and
Speaker 2: I mean, are we still gonna act like there's a
Speaker 2: chance Carolina and Pittsburgh can make it, because I just don't.
Speaker 3: I don't see that happening. I really don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, North Carolina is now fourteen and eleven, Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: is fourteen and nine. Pittsburgh's projected to go ten and
Speaker 2: ten in the league, Carolina's projected to go twelve and eight.
Speaker 2: I just don't know how you could you could finish
Speaker 2: with with with those records and even sniff the bubble.
Speaker 2: But if you look at Lonardi and others like Jerry Palm,
Speaker 2: they still act as if those teams are alive and
Speaker 2: potentially could make it. And I guess, look, maybe they could.
Speaker 2: Maybe they went out, maybe they win the ACC tournament.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But to answer your question, I would say it benefited
Speaker 2: Louisville and outside of that probably didn't have much of
Speaker 2: an impact at all as far as the ACC and
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament bids that they could get.
Speaker 3: All right, So let's see here, where do we want
Speaker 3: to go? We need to get to a break in
Speaker 3: just a moment.
Speaker 2: But do I want to be greedy here and try
Speaker 2: to get to something before we get to a break
Speaker 2: and then maybe throw the clock off and regret it.
Speaker 2: I'll mention this though the clock oh clock management not
Speaker 2: my strong suit, but real quick, just because this won't
Speaker 2: take much time at all. Tyler Shuck we talked last
Speaker 2: week or whatever it was. I guess it was a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago about how he was really impressing
Speaker 2: folks at the Senior Bowl and he's somebody that had
Speaker 2: a full season of good health and it really seemed
Speaker 2: to show that he's a good quarterback. And Jeff used
Speaker 2: him in a way that an NFL team would use
Speaker 2: him if they ever wanted him. And when he was
Speaker 2: at Oregon at Texas Tech, he was used a little
Speaker 2: bit differently in a way that the NFL would never
Speaker 2: intend to use him. So the momentum is still there,
Speaker 2: but like it's I mean, there's some people that think
Speaker 2: that he may actually be one of the top four
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this draft, and maybe you know, he doesn't
Speaker 2: have the upside of some of these guys, but I mean,
Speaker 2: the more I consider what we watched him do here
Speaker 2: at Louisville, I mean, if he ends up with a
Speaker 2: good roster, meaning like if he ends up here's a
Speaker 2: scenario where he could maybe be in the league and
Speaker 2: be a starter. At some point he ends up getting
Speaker 2: drafted by a good franchise that like, let's say the
Speaker 2: Rams draft him and they've got Stafford for another two years.
Speaker 2: Stafford gets hurt and then retires, and Shuck came in
Speaker 2: as the backup and really did a good job doing
Speaker 2: what Sean McVay wanted to do. Like that's the scenario
Speaker 2: where he could potentially be a guy that starts. But
Speaker 2: I also think he's benefiting from I mean, is this
Speaker 2: is Austin you would know better than I. Is this
Speaker 2: viewed as a really strong quarterback draft. I don't think
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Not, like not at all?
Speaker 4: Right at all? I think even because you obviously have
Speaker 4: cam Ward and then you have Shador, but literally after that, I.
Speaker 3: Mean Jackson Dart. I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Know, I know some people like him, but hell, you
Speaker 4: had I've seen a lot of people come out and
Speaker 4: say that, let's say, if one or two of the
Speaker 4: back end quarterbacks from last year were to come in
Speaker 4: this draft, that would probably be the best, like JJ McCarthy, yeah,
Speaker 4: or that would probably be the best. So this is
Speaker 4: pretty not all that strong. And even Jaylen Milroe is
Speaker 4: a lot of people. He's pretty controversial, and he's one
Speaker 4: help player.
Speaker 2: What it could come down to is that Shuck may
Speaker 2: just be getting all this love because comparatively speaking, this
Speaker 2: is just a bad class. But I also wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked if he was able to maybe last in the
Speaker 2: league for a few years. And I mean, who knows,
Speaker 2: You never really know, but yes, I mean I don't
Speaker 2: think there's any quarterback that is like a can't miss guy.
Speaker 2: I mean Sanders, cam Ward Jackson, Dart Quinn, Ores, Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 2: Those are the top five quarterbacks in this class according
Speaker 2: to what I'm looking at right here in NFL draft
Speaker 2: buzz dot Com. And I think that's probably maybe not
Speaker 2: the exact order, but like, those are the names you're
Speaker 2: going to hear more than anything. And after Milrow you
Speaker 2: get to Riley, Leonard, Callum mccorr, Dylan Gabriel, Will Howard,
Speaker 2: and then Shuck. So like if he ended up being
Speaker 2: one of the best of that bunch, it wouldn't shock
Speaker 2: me at all. And really, when you're in a situation
Speaker 2: like this where these guys probably don't have like the
Speaker 2: end on maybe cam Ward does, maybe shure Sanders does too,
Speaker 2: but to me, it's more about situation and timing than
Speaker 2: it is anything else.
Speaker 3: With these guys.
Speaker 2: There's certain quarterbacks that when you draft them, you know,
Speaker 2: if they end up being what you think they are,
Speaker 2: when you take them in the top three or whatever
Speaker 2: it may be, you kind of feel like, no matter what,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to help you because they're that gifted,
Speaker 2: like a Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a Joe Burrow in this class, right,
Speaker 2: I just that's that's not realistic, So I hope he.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I when I see these guys that
Speaker 2: cover the NFL, and obviously now that if you're in
Speaker 2: the NFL world, you're already onto the draft because you
Speaker 2: know that's the next event on the NFL calendar. And
Speaker 2: he's continuing to get love and get in praise as
Speaker 2: to somebody who could be taken in like the top
Speaker 2: four rounds, which again kind of sounds surprising. But from
Speaker 2: what I saw, and what do I know, I'm not
Speaker 2: an NFL scout. I mean, I think the guy's got
Speaker 2: a lot of ability, a lot of talent, and I
Speaker 2: would love to see him have a I mean Louisville
Speaker 2: already is viewed as one of the qbus in college
Speaker 2: football just because they've had a lot of successful guys
Speaker 2: move on to the NFL. But Chuck ad him to
Speaker 2: the list that'd be even better. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 2: So I mentioned that Louisville has already kind of been
Speaker 2: viewed as a as a QBU, right, a program that
Speaker 2: has had good results as far as putting guys in
Speaker 2: the NFL at the quarterback position. And I wasn't saying
Speaker 2: they were the best, but there was some some pushback
Speaker 2: on with that on the text line. And I mean,
Speaker 2: the most recent list I can find from ESPN was
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three that mentions Oklahoma as far as
Speaker 2: just I guess historically and maybe modern you have Baker,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. But who claims Jalen Hurts? Right, Like, if
Speaker 2: you're if if you're claiming Jalen Hurts, is that Alabama
Speaker 2: or is it Oklahoma? I mean, can both claim him.
Speaker 2: I guess they can because he was successful for both.
Speaker 4: I feel like Oklahoma's got to be have the rights
Speaker 4: to claim him, right, Yeah, because he spent this last
Speaker 4: was it two years there?
Speaker 3: Just one? But yeah, yeah, I mean in two uh,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Just kind of exiled away from sure from Alabama.
Speaker 3: So you claim him yet you didn't use him, but
Speaker 3: you can only play one quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: So I don't like Ohio State fans claimed Joe Burrow
Speaker 4: even though they have like one of his six years
Speaker 4: in college.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think they've tried, and he's I
Speaker 2: think he's kind of told him, don't claim me, right,
Speaker 2: But Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and then Dylan
Speaker 2: Gabriel is also somebody that people would mention. But Dylan
Speaker 2: Gabriel played at Oregon to finish his career.
Speaker 4: Played several colleges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Central Florida, Oregon and Central Florida, Oklahoma and Oregon,
Speaker 2: that's right. And then with USC, I mean, they put
Speaker 2: a lot of guys in the league, but I don't
Speaker 2: really like For example, Kayla Williams is the newest guy
Speaker 2: in the league for USC and it's yet to be
Speaker 2: seen if he's going to be any good or not.
Speaker 2: And then you've got guys who played in the league
Speaker 2: but really weren't great Lioner Matt Castle, Sam Darnold, I mean,
Speaker 2: he did kind of resurrect his career this past year
Speaker 2: in UH in Minnesota. And then I don't know, like
Speaker 2: Oregon has Mariota, Herbert bow Nix, and then you go
Speaker 2: back to like Joey Harrington and Dennis Dixon. So I
Speaker 2: guess it just depends are you talking about just guys
Speaker 2: that end up in the league or guys who are
Speaker 2: successful in the league, because it really is a different conversation.
Speaker 2: I mean Louis has had Lamar Jackson, Teddy Bridgewater, I mean,
Speaker 2: Brian Brom, Dave Ragone, Chris Redman, I mean, even Jeff Brom.
Speaker 2: I mean, but again, we're talking about guys that were
Speaker 2: in the league. But really, when it comes to quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that have had like put it this way, if you've
Speaker 2: got a quarterback that has played played for your program
Speaker 2: and went to the NFL and either won a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl as a starting quarterback or won an MVP in
Speaker 2: the regular season as a quarterback or won Super Bowl
Speaker 2: MVP like that. That's not many that can claim that, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, because that's a mean it only happens once.
Speaker 2: Look Brady, I mean, how many how much hard word
Speaker 2: he'd collect, right, I mean that, and he's he's Michigan,
Speaker 2: But yeah, Michigan doesn't really have any other quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: necessarily come to mind. So it's I think Lamar simply
Speaker 2: just being a guy that has already won two MVPs
Speaker 2: and he's still seemingly in his prime, like Louisville can
Speaker 2: claim it. But even before that, I mean, Teddy was
Speaker 2: a first round draft pick and had had had you know,
Speaker 2: a stint in the league. I mean never really, I
Speaker 2: still think Teddy when people look back on his career
Speaker 2: outside of Louisville fans, because he'll just be remembered here
Speaker 2: as a guy that was beloved and is an all timer.
Speaker 2: But I think in the NFL he'll be remembered as
Speaker 2: a journeyman, but also a guy who came back from
Speaker 2: an injury that a lot of people thought he'd never
Speaker 2: play again, and a lot of people thought he'd never
Speaker 2: walk again.
Speaker 3: I mean, we never saw the injury. I mean I
Speaker 3: think maybe a clip.
Speaker 2: From practice did surface, but like, I don't remember watching
Speaker 2: it because that kind of stuff grosses me out. But
Speaker 2: you remember the day like that news broke, right, Austin,
Speaker 2: I mean you're Vikings fans, I'm sure you remember Teddy injury. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when he got hurt, they acted like he might lose
Speaker 2: his leg.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a very dark day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know for him to even come back.
Speaker 2: And then honestly, the best moments of Teddy's career as
Speaker 2: a quarterback in the NFL as far as just you know,
Speaker 2: where he was playing well and there was some success
Speaker 2: and he was getting a lot of love. It was
Speaker 2: in his rookie season when he became the starter.
Speaker 3: Who got hurt? Was it Bradford? Bradford yet, Yeah, he
Speaker 3: got hurt.
Speaker 2: So Teddy got to play and Teddy ended up taking
Speaker 2: Was that the year took them to the playoffs?
Speaker 4: No, No, When Teddy first came in his first start,
Speaker 4: or well he had his first, it was against the
Speaker 4: Saints because Matt Castle, Matt Castle was a quarterback then,
Speaker 4: and then he eventually ended up having a pretty decent year.
Speaker 4: Then the very next year is where he led them
Speaker 4: to the playoffs. They were still playing where the Gophers
Speaker 4: play like outside stadium. They had that below freezing playoff
Speaker 4: game against the Seahawks and Playerwash like hooked it way left. Yep,
Speaker 4: they're being ten yards out and there was it just
Speaker 4: seemed like progression under the Teddy years. And then that
Speaker 4: very next season is when or like two weeks before,
Speaker 4: two weeks before the game, before the season started in
Speaker 4: training camp, it's when he drops back untouched. It's completely untouched,
Speaker 4: and he like shattered his leg and they had to
Speaker 4: break glass in case of emergency. And they went out
Speaker 4: and found Sam Bradford created literally everything for Sam Bradford,
Speaker 4: and and Sam even did all right, but then he
Speaker 4: ended up getting injured too, and that's when case Kenam
Speaker 4: took the reins.
Speaker 2: So in Teddy's rookie year, he ended up starting twelve
Speaker 2: games and ended up being named Rookie PEPSI Rookie of
Speaker 2: the Year, Rookie of the Year, whatever that means. So
Speaker 2: then it was the next year where he had momentum.
Speaker 2: He started all sixteen games. They went eleven and five
Speaker 2: and won the division. Yeah, I mean, And in that
Speaker 2: playoff game was that it was against the Seahawks, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: was at.
Speaker 4: Home against the Seahawks. It was like below freezing then.
Speaker 2: And then the next year, of course he didn't he
Speaker 2: didn't play at all because of the injury. The following
Speaker 2: year he was back in Minnesota and did get in
Speaker 2: one game, yeah Bengal, but didn't get it, didn't you know,
Speaker 2: didn't record any stats. And at that point it got
Speaker 2: awkward because obviously they've got to decide what they want
Speaker 2: to do. They love Teddy, he was, but there was
Speaker 2: really no way to know what would ever happen with him.
Speaker 2: I mean to be honest, I understood even at the time,
Speaker 2: if you're the Vikings or really any team and you
Speaker 2: weren't going to just take a big risk on Teddy
Speaker 2: with a long deal like it made sense because of
Speaker 2: the injury that he had. And he ended up going
Speaker 2: to the Jets if I remember correctly, and did some
Speaker 2: preseason action there, and then that's when he signed with
Speaker 2: the Saints and he was the Saints backup for two years.
Speaker 3: And when it was.
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen when Breeze went down, Teddy came in
Speaker 2: and started five games, went five and zero, put up
Speaker 2: some big numbers. They look really good, and then after
Speaker 2: that it was time for him to cash in, and
Speaker 2: he still made the right decision because he got a
Speaker 2: deal that changed his life financially. I mean, he's already
Speaker 2: an NFL player at the time, making a lot of money.
Speaker 2: But when he got that contract with the with the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers after two seasons in New Orleans, I mean,
Speaker 2: what was that. He has a three year, sixty three
Speaker 2: million dollar contract. Now a lot of people said, well,
Speaker 2: he should have just stayed behind and waited for Breese
Speaker 2: to retire. Then they would have just handed him the job.
Speaker 2: And you might have been right, But like, you don't
Speaker 2: know that for certain, right, I mean, you just you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't pass up on especially when he already had
Speaker 2: the injury that he had. If somebody's going to pay
Speaker 2: him that much money, three years, sixty three million, you
Speaker 2: can't turn that down. So I hated that everybody was like,
Speaker 2: he made a mistake. He should have stayed in New
Speaker 2: Orleans as Breeze is backup for one more year. But like,
Speaker 2: that's not I mean, you're not in his shoes. This
Speaker 2: isn't Madden. This is his life. This is his chance
Speaker 2: to get a paycheck. Essentially, really a contract that he
Speaker 2: probably never thought he'd ever see again or anything close
Speaker 2: to it because of the injury that he had. So
Speaker 2: it did not work out in Carolina. He was only
Speaker 2: there one year and they were bad and he wasn't good.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I also, you know, to defend him, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know who would have been good for Carolina
Speaker 2: that year. Then he got traded for Denver and then
Speaker 2: after that, it's kind of all she wrote as far
Speaker 2: as him being a starting quarterback. So I think people
Speaker 2: will remember him for bouncing back from that injury coming back.
Speaker 2: But I think the best days, like when people think
Speaker 2: of Teddy Bridgewater on the field making plays, being a
Speaker 2: successful quarterback, they think of him being the breeze backup
Speaker 2: because the Saints were having a phenomenon and he came
Speaker 2: in and they didn't miss abeat. They went every game,
Speaker 2: So they'll think of that, and then also think of
Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen season where he went eleven and five
Speaker 2: and they lost because of a pathetic kicker. That's what
Speaker 2: ended up happening. Speaking of quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers, he's out
Speaker 2: in New York. Apparently he traveled to New York on
Speaker 2: his own dime to meet with the team last week
Speaker 2: and they alerted him that he would be his services
Speaker 2: were no longer needed. That's essentially what they told him.
Speaker 2: And look, he's a really talented guy. And I've always
Speaker 2: thought he seemed like a real I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know him, so maybe this is the wrong assumption
Speaker 2: to make, But to me, he kind of seems like
Speaker 2: the worst.
Speaker 3: Like I just have never liked that guy.
Speaker 2: He has a weird I don't like who likes arrogance, right,
Speaker 2: But he's got like a smug arrogance about him that
Speaker 2: I just can't stand. Like I'd rather you be flamboyant
Speaker 2: with your arrogance than just like the smug.
Speaker 3: And then the whole.
Speaker 2: And I don't even I don't care about his anti
Speaker 2: vaxxing stuff, like not that I agree with a lot
Speaker 2: of his nonsense, but I genuinely just don't care. But
Speaker 2: I think he has such an insecurity to want to
Speaker 2: seem as if he is just on a different level
Speaker 2: than all of us intellectually. So he challenges anything that's like,
Speaker 2: you know, mainstream authority kind of stuff. He goes in
Speaker 2: the woods and lives in a box for a you know,
Speaker 2: a month or something, calls it some retreat. I mean,
Speaker 2: and look, maybe he's genuine, but I think he's a
Speaker 2: very insecure human that does a lot of this stuff
Speaker 2: for like attension, and it's backfired because I think the
Speaker 2: way he's handled himself the last like three or four
Speaker 2: years has made it to where not many people like
Speaker 2: him at all. So not a big fan. That was
Speaker 2: a long winded way of me saying all of that
Speaker 2: to say, I've always felt like he's one of the
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks that I've ever watched in the NFL in
Speaker 2: my time as a football fan. Now he's he didn't
Speaker 2: look that great this year, although he did actually he
Speaker 2: specifically finished.
Speaker 3: Rather strong, but the Jets were just, you know, a mess.
Speaker 2: So I am very intrigued to see where he ends up,
Speaker 2: what kind of deal he gets, because at forty one
Speaker 2: and you know, still freshly off of a torn achilles,
Speaker 2: I mean, teams that know that their weakness might be
Speaker 2: quarterback play, wouldn't they be foolish not to go get him?
Speaker 2: But I kind of answer my question by saying, like
Speaker 2: he's not a good locker room guy, like he's gonna
Speaker 2: come in and not going to conform to what you're
Speaker 2: doing as far as your identity, your culture, He's going
Speaker 2: to come in and want to run the show. Likes
Speaker 2: he's very much, very much self absorbed. And I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be real, the Jets shouldn't have been as bad
Speaker 2: as they were, right, I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just what makes it so fascinating to me is because
Speaker 2: I think even at an older age and fresh off
Speaker 2: of an injury, he's shown enough.
Speaker 3: To where he'll have a job.
Speaker 2: But I could also see teams that might really, you know,
Speaker 2: seem like the type of team that would benefit from him.
Speaker 2: Right now saying no, I'm not going to do it
Speaker 2: because we know we now know what comes with bringing
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers into our into our franchise. But have you
Speaker 2: heard anything Austin as far as which teams may like
Speaker 2: be interested?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't, But I did hear was it? I
Speaker 4: can't remember who it was, but I saw a really
Speaker 4: good review on Chook about a week ago and how
Speaker 4: he had a pretty good like Senior Bowl campaign and
Speaker 4: how he looked.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm talking about I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were talking about Chuck Stone.
Speaker 5: No, No, if anything, Uh, because I I the last
Speaker 5: lot to take on The last I saw was that,
Speaker 5: and I think this actually actually no.
Speaker 2: I saw it on Twitter thinking it was nonsense, and
Speaker 2: then Colin referenced it yesterday on his show. I say, Colin, like,
Speaker 2: I know him firsthand. That's your guy cow Heard. We
Speaker 2: are technically kind of colleagues, right, he's on this station
Speaker 2: and he works for iHeart.
Speaker 4: He leads right into our show. Yeah, we're peers. He's
Speaker 4: my lead in. That's right.
Speaker 2: But he mentioned Mike Tomlin and the Steelers, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: what that seems like the least compatible. But apparently there
Speaker 2: is like a bromance to where Rogers and Tomlin have
Speaker 2: always had like a lot of respect for one another.
Speaker 2: But that's a there's a difference in that then signing
Speaker 2: up to have him come in, because look, the Steelers
Speaker 2: are they are quite literally the one NFL franchise that
Speaker 2: they're gonna do what they're gonna do. They don't care
Speaker 2: who you are. I mean, that's why they've kept Tomlin
Speaker 2: as long as they have. He fits exactly what their ownership,
Speaker 2: with their front office wants to do. They do way
Speaker 2: more with less. In man, no team has ever in
Speaker 2: my lifetime been able to get a lot out of somebody,
Speaker 2: they start bitching and crying about money. Then they let
Speaker 2: him walk, and those guys can't even maintain employment in
Speaker 2: the National Football League once they're no longer within the
Speaker 2: Steelers organization. So to me, that seems like the least
Speaker 2: compatible thing ever. But then again, I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: maybe they have such a such a consistent and respected
Speaker 2: culture that Rogers would go in and kind of know, like, hey,
Speaker 2: there's one place I'm not going to run the show.
Speaker 3: It's in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: But he look, I thought about my colts doing something
Speaker 2: to get him, and I don't like him, but I
Speaker 2: know he's way better than anybody else we have.
Speaker 3: And we're already a joke anyway. If Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Wants to come and bring, you know, his Shenanigans and
Speaker 2: really mess things up even further, what's it gonna hurt?
Speaker 2: We already are a joke. I mean that's kind of
Speaker 2: the way I view it. But again, like it comes
Speaker 2: down to money, and I'm not sure what kind of
Speaker 2: deal he thinks he's gonna get. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: without question, wouldn't you say, Austin the most humbling stretch
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers' career where he's basically.
Speaker 3: Been dumped by the Jets, Right, it's one thing to.
Speaker 4: A poor guy, right, Yeah, who would have thought that
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, the leader and the great character that he is,
Speaker 4: would just destroy the organization from within? He got like
Speaker 4: so he got like three people fire her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what he does. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: I mean, that's quite literally what he does. And it's
Speaker 2: one thing if if his play is just so like
Speaker 2: when you really get down to balancing the pluses and minuses,
Speaker 2: the pros and the cons, I'm not I'm not sure
Speaker 2: he's really ever because you get him. If he's if
Speaker 2: he's the piece that puts it to where you're actually
Speaker 2: going to potentially maybe win a Super Bowl. Yes, but
Speaker 2: I just don't really know if there's a team out
Speaker 2: there right now and where Rogers is right now in
Speaker 2: his career, I just don't see a scenario where you know,
Speaker 2: he like, honestly, the teams that we view as legitimate
Speaker 2: teams that could potentially get to the Super Bowl next
Speaker 2: year as of right now. Obviously there's a lot that
Speaker 2: could change from now until the next season. We just
Speaker 2: ended the season two days ago. But I just like
Speaker 2: I don't know who would, who would who would make
Speaker 2: that kind of a deal because they feel like he's
Speaker 2: the guy that really puts.
Speaker 3: Him over the top.
Speaker 2: I mean, let me just do a quick little Google
Speaker 2: search here, because the Steelers can't be Yeah they are. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's already DraftKings are. There's odds out there as far
Speaker 2: as the betting favorites for the next Aaron Rodgers destination,
Speaker 2: and the Steelers are the betting favorite.
Speaker 4: Which again interesting.
Speaker 2: They make sense for every reason other than the fact
Speaker 2: that they don't put up with this nonsense, right Like
Speaker 2: they didn't pay Antonio Brown, they didn't pay Levey on
Speaker 2: Bell when everybody else would have, and they let those
Speaker 2: guys walk, and clearly they look smart for doing so.
Speaker 3: I just Aaron Rodgers would have to. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to say that that somebody is
Speaker 2: stupid if they want to bring in Aaron Rodgers as
Speaker 2: their quarterback, because you know, he's Aaron Rodgers. But I
Speaker 2: just feel like it's it certainly seemed towards the end
Speaker 2: in Green Bay as if he was a bigger issue
Speaker 2: for them than he was. Like a positive, he was
Speaker 2: a good quarterback, but man, their culture wasn't great. He
Speaker 2: was toxic, he was a diva, and man, the guy
Speaker 2: hadn't won a Super Bowl yet. But Jordan Love has
Speaker 2: been able to do just fine. I mean, like they
Speaker 2: haven't really missed Aaron Rodgers, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: because you know, he had some really good seasons, and.
Speaker 3: You know he did have one Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But oftentimes you'd get a really good year of Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers where he put up big time numbers. The Packers
Speaker 2: were good, but never never good enough to get back
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Steelers have enough confidence and beliefs in what
Speaker 2: they do to where Rogers wouldn't be able to kind
Speaker 2: of wreck things like he has at the end in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And certainly, I mean, look, the Jets are
Speaker 2: a mess anyway. I can't blame that at all on Rogers.
Speaker 2: We are talking about the New York Jets. But I
Speaker 2: would definitely sign up to see him in Pittsburgh just
Speaker 2: to see how that would play out. But the other
Speaker 2: teams in by the way, this absolutely makes sense. I
Speaker 2: just out of sight, out of mind. I wouldn't thinking
Speaker 2: about him now. This probably wouldn't put.
Speaker 3: Them over the top to where they'd be a super
Speaker 3: Bowl contender.
Speaker 2: But man, the Raiders, aren't they the kind of team
Speaker 2: that you could absolutely see making a move for him.
Speaker 4: Of course they just got in. Uh they just Pete Carroll, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: just dug up Pete Carroll to come in. And that's
Speaker 4: that seems like somebody the whole bag of bones. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm shocked, you know, But if he's got
Speaker 4: a couple of years left in him, that's somebody that
Speaker 4: I think Aaron thinks that he could probably boss around
Speaker 4: rather closer than I would think.
Speaker 3: To take his seat. Grandpa, party's over.
Speaker 2: He'll tell the coordinator upstairs, Hey, turn his head set off.
Speaker 2: Just don't tell him, you know, we'll let him think
Speaker 2: he's talking to us. But he's not Weekend at Bernie's
Speaker 2: kind of situation. I mean, but the Raiders, they're not
Speaker 2: in any way built with a roster that, like Rogers,
Speaker 2: is the piece that puts him over, because I mean,
Speaker 2: where's who Who are the Raiders franchise players right now?
Speaker 3: Like? Who who right now is like the key who
Speaker 3: are the key pieces for them?
Speaker 2: I mean they got brought Bowers really good tight end,
Speaker 2: but I mean outside of that, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4: Max Crosby, who's there might be looking to ship or
Speaker 4: he's wanting to get out.
Speaker 2: Well it is wild how that works, man, because you
Speaker 2: can have guys who like Sometimes you look at a
Speaker 2: guy who has put together many seasons where they are
Speaker 2: one of the best in the league at their position
Speaker 2: week in and week out, you say, that guy is
Speaker 2: a key piece to what we do. But if you
Speaker 2: don't win at a high level, what's the value?
Speaker 3: Right? So, like you're now so you're.
Speaker 2: Now seeing big time players that you feel like, who
Speaker 2: would get rid of him? Well, hey, we had him,
Speaker 2: he was great, but we didn't win, so we might
Speaker 2: as well trust something different. So anyways, the other teams
Speaker 2: that have odds here at least, you know, good odds
Speaker 2: to land Rogers.
Speaker 3: It's the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Currently at two to one, and then after that you've
Speaker 2: got the Raiders at three to one, and then the
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers plus three point fifty, which.
Speaker 3: I don't think that'll happen.
Speaker 2: And then you've got other teams like the Vikings and
Speaker 2: the Titans and the Colts.
Speaker 3: The Vikings aren't doing that right.
Speaker 4: No, thank you.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna what are they gonna do? With with
Speaker 2: with Donald.
Speaker 4: I think that they're probably gonna move on. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think I think it's just gonna be full blown JJ
Speaker 4: McCarthy season. But I know that there's always that fun
Speaker 4: parallel because uh uh, Brett Farv did the same thing
Speaker 4: when he went to the Jets and kind of fake retired,
Speaker 4: then really retired, then came back and then he had
Speaker 4: one of the years of his career in Minnesota. But
Speaker 4: at least Brett Farv, I know he's been weird the
Speaker 4: last couple of years, but he was likable in Green Bay,
Speaker 4: like he just he just had a flux with with
Speaker 4: the ownership there. But by all means he was a
Speaker 4: great teammate.
Speaker 2: It's like his ego got the best of them at
Speaker 2: the end. Yes, you know what I mean, and that
Speaker 2: that really kind of made that thing in sourly.
Speaker 4: But I want no part of Aaron Rodgers at the stage.
Speaker 3: I don't either.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you, I mean, can can What do
Speaker 2: you what do you want for Donald?
Speaker 3: I'm the Colts.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you as the brass here of the
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe actually second third round?
Speaker 3: He's not even under contract, is he uh no, not
Speaker 3: coming up.
Speaker 4: But it's a franchise tag him, then that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: So they could franchise tag him and then move him.
Speaker 4: And then move him, but I think that that would
Speaker 4: kind of lower his value. You're probably looking at a
Speaker 4: third or fourth round pick for him, because once you
Speaker 4: franchise tag him, other teams are going to know that
Speaker 4: they're only doing this so they can keep them and
Speaker 4: trade them, that they're not looking for him to be
Speaker 4: their quarterback for next year. So they're going to leverage
Speaker 4: that and all right, we'll send you a fourth rounder
Speaker 4: or something like that. But it's all they're all banking of.
Speaker 4: They've seen Kevin O'Connell, the head coach, who's one Coach
Speaker 4: of the Year by the way, and he's what it's
Speaker 4: QB Rehabilitation School is what Kevin O'Connell is running up there.
Speaker 4: And who knows, they might go with Daniel Jones next
Speaker 4: year to start and then subtly move in JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: But frush Shadow rehab in Minnesota. Send Sam Darnold right
Speaker 2: down to to Indianapolis.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd feel better about that than any of
Speaker 2: the other quarterback options. We've had since Andrew Luck retired.
Speaker 4: He's in a dome. You know, it's not not that
Speaker 4: that too big of a you know, the conference that
Speaker 4: he's in, is it really, you know, too tough?
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it really is a no brainer, because
Speaker 2: they can't lie to themselves and act like Anthony Richardson's
Speaker 2: the answer.
Speaker 3: Trust me, they can't do that.
Speaker 4: They've been trying that for too long now.
Speaker 2: I mean, any any game watching him is a sign
Speaker 2: that he's not the guy.
Speaker 4: But everybody just keeps saying that there's there's still something
Speaker 4: left to him.
Speaker 2: They said they said that about Tebow early on too.
Speaker 2: And and by the way, now I'm not kidding. Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson broke Tebow's record for the work for the worst
Speaker 2: passing completion percentage for a starting quarterback in an NFL season.
Speaker 4: We'll just trade you Darnold for Richardson straight up.
Speaker 2: Like the signs are there, you're gonnaut him at punt
Speaker 2: returner or something. I mean, Richardson is I mean, he
Speaker 2: could maybe do some things, but you don't get to
Speaker 2: the NFL and then become a good quarterback.
Speaker 4: It's never happened, right, and he never a Project Child
Speaker 4: coming out like a Project.
Speaker 2: Yeah Child's he's not it, but quick Break will come
Speaker 2: back on the other side. And uh, in fact, you
Speaker 2: want to just double up here with that makes more
Speaker 2: sense since the clock management was not it was not great.
Speaker 4: Double up.
Speaker 3: Uh, let's do that. Let's do that. Stick around five
Speaker 3: o'clock hours next