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<v Speaker 1>Now here's nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we now know that the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>where the uh, the Eagles got it done for us, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the uh those of us that are in the haters

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<v Speaker 2>club of the Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, we had a good night on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs got blown out, Taylor Swift gets booed, Travis Kelsey's.

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<v Speaker 3>Boohooing My home stunk. I mean it was. It was

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<v Speaker 3>really exactly what what we wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey's wearing that ridiculous outfit. Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's fit. I saw it yesterday for the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>actually saw.

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<v Speaker 4>It out all sad.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he showed up looking like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>a peaky blinders looking, I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know obviously that a lot of pro athletes

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<v Speaker 2>where things that probably cost more than our homes. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they it's it's fashion, it's style. We wouldn't relate.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the it might have been I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on Twitter, one of these very well followed

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<v Speaker 2>accounts that you know is more satire, but they just

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<v Speaker 2>posted the screen the picture of Kelsey when he arrived

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<v Speaker 2>in his outfit and said, imagine having to put this

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<v Speaker 2>back on after that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I saw the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's it's very fitting.

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<v Speaker 4>So just got to walk out with joggers and yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Just put the hoodie on, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, the Super Bowl was the most watched super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl ever, averaging one hundred and twenty seven point seven

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<v Speaker 2>million viewers across all Fox platforms. So, I mean, as

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<v Speaker 2>much as there seemed to be some fatigue with the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really do believe that the NFL season, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said yesterday, just kind of didn't have It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a great year, I feel like for the league. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say that because my team didn't win or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that, but I mean, I think there were

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<v Speaker 2>some real factors I had discuss I think Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>is is well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's phenomenal. But I think when he has.

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<v Speaker 2>A year where everybody's talking about how he's having a

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<v Speaker 2>better season than he's ever had before, and oh, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, he's already got an MVP or two MVP

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<v Speaker 2>trophies and the Ravens look great, and then they get

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<v Speaker 2>to the playoffs and lose in their first postseason game

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe their second one, that ends up being one

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<v Speaker 2>really bad for Lamar, but it's also not good for

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<v Speaker 2>the league. And I don't want to act like the

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<v Speaker 2>league needs Lamar to be great, but your season is

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<v Speaker 2>a story, right like this is entertainment, and some really

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<v Speaker 2>notable stories throughout the season just didn't extend into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lamar maybe looking like getting Derrick Henry and look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's still worth mentioning. But when you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're Lamar and you don't get it done in

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs and you've already proven you could be really

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<v Speaker 2>great in the regular season, there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks underwhelmed when you fall short like he did.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Lamar, I mean, the storyline for me

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<v Speaker 2>was and I don't mean like my storyline, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is how I viewed it, just the way I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of felt the noise was shifting when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar and the Ravens being talked about this year was

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<v Speaker 2>that this guy's even better than he's ever been and

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<v Speaker 2>he's already got two MVPs and oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>they just added Derrick Henry, I mean, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>fall flat and lose to the Bills. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>that that that sucks for Lamar, but it also you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it ended a story that could have carried into the

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<v Speaker 2>postseason a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they they were still a big part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I think they got into the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know, maybe there would have been even more viewers.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. And then I talked about it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's weird to say, oh, the NFL needs

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<v Speaker 2>the Lions, because the NFL has never had the Lions

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<v Speaker 2>and they've been just fine without them the Lions. But

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<v Speaker 2>but the lines were good this year, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>that was clearly a storyline. So again, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that the league had a great year, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that each and every year the league could get

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<v Speaker 2>worse Next year, the regular season could be even worse

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<v Speaker 2>the year after, and if we continue to see a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger number of viewers for the Super Bowl, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be shocked. Because the NFL could have terrible seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFL could could take a huge hit, and people

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<v Speaker 2>are still going to consume it like they can like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing else, because it's the NFL. It's king so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised at all to see that that one and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven point seven million viewers was the average across

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<v Speaker 2>all different Fox platforms and some of these numbers though,

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<v Speaker 2>and we already had somebody text in and say this,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>When you compare.

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<v Speaker 2>Viewership now compared to five, six years ago, even further back,

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<v Speaker 2>it is different because now, like if you had the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet back in the day and you could watch on

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<v Speaker 2>different platforms other than just your standard television. You could

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<v Speaker 2>watch on an app like YouTube TV on your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>or you could have a Roku, like the streaming world

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<v Speaker 2>has definitely given us a bigger number like one and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven point seven million.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean it's I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Still it's still a record, right, Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what like, I don't know for example, if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the wh who's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Sequon Barkley he broke the record that Terrell

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<v Speaker 2>Owens had right where not Trell Owens, Buttrel Davis had

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<v Speaker 2>where he had the most rushing yards in an entire

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<v Speaker 2>season start to finish, And as we talked about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the first Sawan. Barkley was the first running

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<v Speaker 2>back to lead the NFL and rushing and be a

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl champion in the same season. It hadn't happened

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<v Speaker 2>since Davis did it with the Broncos in ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do think it's worth mentioning when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about those numbers and you include the fact that they

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<v Speaker 2>played more games.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you know what I'm saying, Like that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, Like if I was somebody and maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is just me being you know, self absorbed, if I

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<v Speaker 2>had a really impressive record that like was a part

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<v Speaker 2>of my legacy that I was really proud of and

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<v Speaker 2>it was you know, it was a big deal, I

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<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't be the guy because you'll clearly look like

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. Nobody wants to look like the guy. But internally,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that you were really lame for telling

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else they broke my record when they got an

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<v Speaker 2>extra game to do it, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just quite literally a different thing. So again, when

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<v Speaker 2>you bring up that kind of stuff with records, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's worth mentioning. But like saying, well, hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl back in the eighties, had we had the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>more people would have watched it. Well, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>may be right, but we'll never no. All right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and company feel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety. Thanks for hanging out with us here on

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<v Speaker 2>a wet Tuesday afternoon. I'm not sure what it's doing

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<v Speaker 2>that it made a very light sound when it hit

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<v Speaker 2>when it hit my vehicle, So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's sleep. But the good news is we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>staying abuff freezing, it looks like for the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days, so it'll just be sloppy. I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>schools will be back tomorrow. Don't quote me on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know for sure, but today's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>the cautious NTI remote learning thing, because they have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to do it. But I mean, if they knew

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what we'd be dealing with today, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>today probably would have been.

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<v Speaker 3>A regular school day for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, they're gonna always here on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of caution, and uh, they always should be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we're looking at these next uh, I mean really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be aboff freezing from now until the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 2>We will get some more snow this there's some more

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<v Speaker 2>I guess winter weather this evening. But like I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>right now that we could get up to four inches

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<v Speaker 2>it's not mean, it's not even I mean, it's sticking,

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<v Speaker 2>but like not it's not really stacking up, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. Maybe I'm just not getting as much snow

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<v Speaker 2>this this is certainly messy and sloppy, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>had in January, which was fun like for a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it became kind of annoying how cold it

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<v Speaker 2>was and how nothing would melt and it, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't fun after a while. All Right, If you guys

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<v Speaker 2>This tech says Nick was Duke losing the Clemson actually

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<v Speaker 2>good for the ACC or bad for the ACC. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it depends on who you talk to. I think

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville it was good because their best win is Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at their schedule not only what they've played

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<v Speaker 2>so far and who they but also who they play

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way, there's no scenario Clemson is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to end up being your best win. So

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson beating Duke and their resume getting better that helped Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for the ACC, I mean, I don't really think

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<v Speaker 2>it matters, to be honest with you, like Clemson, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it. It's not going to put anybody in

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<v Speaker 2>like that isolated result Duke getting upset by Clemson on Saturday, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Clemson beat the hell out of North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina last night, which that's got to be the death nail,

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<v Speaker 2>right like body bag this Carolina season because somehow they

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<v Speaker 2>keep losing and yet I don't know, huh, maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna make it to where Carolina really has a

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<v Speaker 2>tough time making the tournament. Carolina has lost five of

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<v Speaker 2>seven games and they have no win we're speaking of,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of their losses in those five out of

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<v Speaker 2>seven were to bad teams that we know aren't making

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament. So, like, I don't understand like how Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>has still been able to stay alive. I think Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do believe that Louisville losing to any

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams the rest of the way could substantially

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<v Speaker 2>change how they're viewed as far as making the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I see Carolina and Pittsburgh continue to lose

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<v Speaker 2>and yet they still have I guess a chance when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the bracketology experts out there that think

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<v Speaker 2>they could still get in, Like maybe Louisville has a

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<v Speaker 2>loss or two they could give up. You wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to risk it. But yeah, Duke losing it helped elevate

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson and Louisville right now is the only team in

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC that has beat Clemson that will make the tournament. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So Georgia Tech got him in, Louisville got them. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Clemson is sitting here in the top twenty

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<v Speaker 2>they're twenty and five overall and Louisville is the only

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<v Speaker 2>to give you a legitimate answer, but as I dance around,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there really is no way to know for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and it didn't really have much of an impact on

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<v Speaker 2>anybody outside of Louislle. Because again, if you are Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>and last night you beat Clemson at their place, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be good because maybe that would put Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>in a better spot to potentially make the tournament, and

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson beating Duke would have made that win more valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, louis I think it to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it benefited Louisville and really nobody else, of

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<v Speaker 2>down to just how the bubble bounces. When it comes

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<v Speaker 3>They're in.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost to Clemson and their resume didn't change. There's

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<v Speaker 2>still a one seed. Clemson is safely in. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville right now is safely in as of now, and

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<v Speaker 2>then outside of that you got Wake Forest SMU and

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<v Speaker 2>chance Carolina and Pittsburgh can make it, because I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see that happening. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, North Carolina is now fourteen and eleven, Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>is fourteen and nine. Pittsburgh's projected to go ten and

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<v Speaker 2>ten in the league, Carolina's projected to go twelve and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know how you could you could finish

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at Lonardi and others like Jerry Palm,

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<v Speaker 2>they still act as if those teams are alive and

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<v Speaker 2>potentially could make it. And I guess, look, maybe they could.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they went out, maybe they win the ACC tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>But to answer your question, I would say it benefited

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville and outside of that probably didn't have much of

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<v Speaker 2>the NCAA tournament bids that they could get.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So let's see here, where do we want

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<v Speaker 2>But do I want to be greedy here and try

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<v Speaker 2>to get to something before we get to a break

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<v Speaker 2>and then maybe throw the clock off and regret it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll mention this though the clock oh clock management not

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<v Speaker 2>my strong suit, but real quick, just because this won't

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<v Speaker 2>take much time at all. Tyler Shuck we talked last

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<v Speaker 2>week or whatever it was. I guess it was a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago about how he was really impressing

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<v Speaker 2>folks at the Senior Bowl and he's somebody that had

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<v Speaker 2>a full season of good health and it really seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to show that he's a good quarterback. And Jeff used

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<v Speaker 2>him in a way that an NFL team would use

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<v Speaker 2>him if they ever wanted him. And when he was

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<v Speaker 2>at Oregon at Texas Tech, he was used a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit differently in a way that the NFL would never

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<v Speaker 2>intend to use him. So the momentum is still there,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it's I mean, there's some people that think

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<v Speaker 2>that he may actually be one of the top four

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks in this draft, and maybe you know, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the upside of some of these guys, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the more I consider what we watched him do here

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<v Speaker 2>at Louisville, I mean, if he ends up with a

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<v Speaker 2>good roster, meaning like if he ends up here's a

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<v Speaker 2>scenario where he could maybe be in the league and

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<v Speaker 2>be a starter. At some point he ends up getting

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<v Speaker 2>drafted by a good franchise that like, let's say the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams draft him and they've got Stafford for another two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford gets hurt and then retires, and Shuck came in

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<v Speaker 2>as the backup and really did a good job doing

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<v Speaker 2>what Sean McVay wanted to do. Like that's the scenario

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<v Speaker 2>where he could potentially be a guy that starts. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also think he's benefiting from I mean, is this

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<v Speaker 2>is Austin you would know better than I. Is this

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<v Speaker 2>viewed as a really strong quarterback draft. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Not, like not at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Right at all? I think even because you obviously have

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<v Speaker 4>cam Ward and then you have Shador, but literally after that, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean Jackson Dart. I mean, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I know some people like him, but hell, you

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<v Speaker 4>had I've seen a lot of people come out and

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<v Speaker 4>say that, let's say, if one or two of the

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<v Speaker 4>back end quarterbacks from last year were to come in

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<v Speaker 4>this draft, that would probably be the best, like JJ McCarthy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>or that would probably be the best. So this is

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<v Speaker 4>pretty not all that strong. And even Jaylen Milroe is

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people. He's pretty controversial, and he's one

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<v Speaker 2>What it could come down to is that Shuck may

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<v Speaker 2>just be getting all this love because comparatively speaking, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just a bad class. But I also wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked if he was able to maybe last in the

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<v Speaker 2>league for a few years. And I mean, who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>You never really know, but yes, I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's any quarterback that is like a can't miss guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Sanders, cam Ward Jackson, Dart Quinn, Ores, Jalen Milroe.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the top five quarterbacks in this class according

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<v Speaker 2>to what I'm looking at right here in NFL draft

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<v Speaker 2>buzz dot Com. And I think that's probably maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>the exact order, but like, those are the names you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to hear more than anything. And after Milrow you

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<v Speaker 2>get to Riley, Leonard, Callum mccorr, Dylan Gabriel, Will Howard,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Shuck. So like if he ended up being

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best of that bunch, it wouldn't shock

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<v Speaker 2>me at all. And really, when you're in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>like this where these guys probably don't have like the

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<v Speaker 2>end on maybe cam Ward does, maybe shure Sanders does too,

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<v Speaker 2>but to me, it's more about situation and timing than

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<v Speaker 2>it is anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>With these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>There's certain quarterbacks that when you draft them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they end up being what you think they are,

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<v Speaker 2>when you take them in the top three or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it may be, you kind of feel like, no matter what,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be able to help you because they're that gifted,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a Joe Burrow in this class, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I just that's that's not realistic, So I hope he.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I when I see these guys that

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<v Speaker 2>cover the NFL, and obviously now that if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL world, you're already onto the draft because you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's the next event on the NFL calendar. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's continuing to get love and get in praise as

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody who could be taken in like the top

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<v Speaker 2>four rounds, which again kind of sounds surprising. But from

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<v Speaker 2>what I saw, and what do I know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>an NFL scout. I mean, I think the guy's got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ability, a lot of talent, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to see him have a I mean Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>already is viewed as one of the qbus in college

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<v Speaker 2>football just because they've had a lot of successful guys

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<v Speaker 2>move on to the NFL. But Chuck ad him to

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<v Speaker 2>the list that'd be even better. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mentioned that Louisville has already kind of been

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<v Speaker 2>viewed as a as a QBU, right, a program that

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<v Speaker 2>has had good results as far as putting guys in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL at the quarterback position. And I wasn't saying

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<v Speaker 2>they were the best, but there was some some pushback

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<v Speaker 2>on with that on the text line. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the most recent list I can find from ESPN was

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty three that mentions Oklahoma as far as

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<v Speaker 2>just I guess historically and maybe modern you have Baker,

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts. But who claims Jalen Hurts? Right, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're if if you're claiming Jalen Hurts, is that Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>or is it Oklahoma? I mean, can both claim him.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they can because he was successful for both.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like Oklahoma's got to be have the rights

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<v Speaker 4>to claim him, right, Yeah, because he spent this last

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<v Speaker 4>was it two years there?

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<v Speaker 3>Just one? But yeah, yeah, I mean in two uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Just kind of exiled away from sure from Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>So you claim him yet you didn't use him, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can only play one quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't like Ohio State fans claimed Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 4>even though they have like one of his six years

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I think they've tried, and he's I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's kind of told him, don't claim me, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and then Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>Gabriel is also somebody that people would mention. But Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>Gabriel played at Oregon to finish his career.

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<v Speaker 4>Played several colleges.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Central Florida, Oregon and Central Florida, Oklahoma and Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. And then with USC, I mean, they put

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys in the league, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really like For example, Kayla Williams is the newest guy

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<v Speaker 2>in the league for USC and it's yet to be

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<v Speaker 2>seen if he's going to be any good or not.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got guys who played in the league

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<v Speaker 2>but really weren't great Lioner Matt Castle, Sam Darnold, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in UH in Minnesota. And then I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon has Mariota, Herbert bow Nix, and then you go

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<v Speaker 2>back to like Joey Harrington and Dennis Dixon. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it just depends are you talking about just guys

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<v Speaker 2>that end up in the league or guys who are

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<v Speaker 2>successful in the league, because it really is a different conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Louis has had Lamar Jackson, Teddy Bridgewater, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but again, we're talking about guys that were

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<v Speaker 2>in the league. But really, when it comes to quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>that have had like put it this way, if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a quarterback that has played played for your program

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<v Speaker 2>and went to the NFL and either won a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl as a starting quarterback or won an MVP in

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<v Speaker 2>MVP like that. That's not many that can claim that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because that's a mean it only happens once.

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<v Speaker 2>Look Brady, I mean, how many how much hard word

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<v Speaker 2>he'd collect, right, I mean that, and he's he's Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Michigan doesn't really have any other quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily come to mind. So it's I think Lamar simply

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<v Speaker 2>and he's still seemingly in his prime, like Louisville can

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<v Speaker 2>claim it. But even before that, I mean, Teddy was

424
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<v Speaker 2>a first round draft pick and had had had you know,

425
00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.640
<v Speaker 2>a stint in the league. I mean never really, I

426
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<v Speaker 2>still think Teddy when people look back on his career

427
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<v Speaker 2>outside of Louisville fans, because he'll just be remembered here

428
00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.079
<v Speaker 2>as a guy that was beloved and is an all timer.

429
00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:14.559
<v Speaker 2>But I think in the NFL he'll be remembered as

430
00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:17.799
<v Speaker 2>a journeyman, but also a guy who came back from

431
00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:19.599
<v Speaker 2>an injury that a lot of people thought he'd never

432
00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:21.559
<v Speaker 2>play again, and a lot of people thought he'd never

433
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<v Speaker 2>walk again.

434
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we never saw the injury. I mean I

435
00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:25.880
<v Speaker 3>think maybe a clip.

436
00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.640
<v Speaker 2>From practice did surface, but like, I don't remember watching

437
00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it because that kind of stuff grosses me out. But

438
00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.319
<v Speaker 2>you remember the day like that news broke, right, Austin,

439
00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're Vikings fans, I'm sure you remember Teddy injury. Yeah,

440
00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:39.559
<v Speaker 2>when he got hurt, they acted like he might lose

441
00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:39.839
<v Speaker 2>his leg.

442
00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:41.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a very dark day.

443
00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know for him to even come back.

444
00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:48.440
<v Speaker 2>And then honestly, the best moments of Teddy's career as

445
00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.519
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback in the NFL as far as just you know,

446
00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:54.000
<v Speaker 2>where he was playing well and there was some success

447
00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:55.839
<v Speaker 2>and he was getting a lot of love. It was

448
00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:57.559
<v Speaker 2>in his rookie season when he became the starter.

449
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<v Speaker 3>Who got hurt? Was it Bradford? Bradford yet, Yeah, he

450
00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:01.640
<v Speaker 3>got hurt.

451
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:03.440
<v Speaker 2>So Teddy got to play and Teddy ended up taking

452
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<v Speaker 2>Was that the year took them to the playoffs?

453
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<v Speaker 4>No, No, When Teddy first came in his first start,

454
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<v Speaker 4>or well he had his first, it was against the

455
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<v Speaker 4>Saints because Matt Castle, Matt Castle was a quarterback then,

456
00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.119
<v Speaker 4>and then he eventually ended up having a pretty decent year.

457
00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Then the very next year is where he led them

458
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<v Speaker 4>to the playoffs. They were still playing where the Gophers

459
00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:27.279
<v Speaker 4>play like outside stadium. They had that below freezing playoff

460
00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:31.640
<v Speaker 4>game against the Seahawks and Playerwash like hooked it way left. Yep,

461
00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.839
<v Speaker 4>they're being ten yards out and there was it just

462
00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.680
<v Speaker 4>seemed like progression under the Teddy years. And then that

463
00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:42.920
<v Speaker 4>very next season is when or like two weeks before,

464
00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.559
<v Speaker 4>two weeks before the game, before the season started in

465
00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:50.559
<v Speaker 4>training camp, it's when he drops back untouched. It's completely untouched,

466
00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.720
<v Speaker 4>and he like shattered his leg and they had to

467
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:54.799
<v Speaker 4>break glass in case of emergency. And they went out

468
00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:59.240
<v Speaker 4>and found Sam Bradford created literally everything for Sam Bradford,

469
00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:02.240
<v Speaker 4>and and Sam even did all right, but then he

470
00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:05.119
<v Speaker 4>ended up getting injured too, and that's when case Kenam

471
00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:05.759
<v Speaker 4>took the reins.

472
00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:09.480
<v Speaker 2>So in Teddy's rookie year, he ended up starting twelve

473
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<v Speaker 2>games and ended up being named Rookie PEPSI Rookie of

474
00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.559
<v Speaker 2>the Year, Rookie of the Year, whatever that means. So

475
00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:18.960
<v Speaker 2>then it was the next year where he had momentum.

476
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:21.400
<v Speaker 2>He started all sixteen games. They went eleven and five

477
00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:24.799
<v Speaker 2>and won the division. Yeah, I mean, And in that

478
00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>playoff game was that it was against the Seahawks, right, Yeah, Yeah,

479
00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:28.079
<v Speaker 2>was at.

480
00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Home against the Seahawks. It was like below freezing then.

481
00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.160
<v Speaker 2>And then the next year, of course he didn't he

482
00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:35.519
<v Speaker 2>didn't play at all because of the injury. The following

483
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:38.240
<v Speaker 2>year he was back in Minnesota and did get in

484
00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:41.039
<v Speaker 2>one game, yeah Bengal, but didn't get it, didn't you know,

485
00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't record any stats. And at that point it got

486
00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>awkward because obviously they've got to decide what they want

487
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.200
<v Speaker 2>to do. They love Teddy, he was, but there was

488
00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.680
<v Speaker 2>really no way to know what would ever happen with him.

489
00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean to be honest, I understood even at the time,

490
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>if you're the Vikings or really any team and you

491
00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:59.440
<v Speaker 2>weren't going to just take a big risk on Teddy

492
00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:01.480
<v Speaker 2>with a long deal like it made sense because of

493
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:04.279
<v Speaker 2>the injury that he had. And he ended up going

494
00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.400
<v Speaker 2>to the Jets if I remember correctly, and did some

495
00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>preseason action there, and then that's when he signed with

496
00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:11.799
<v Speaker 2>the Saints and he was the Saints backup for two years.

497
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:13.079
<v Speaker 3>And when it was.

498
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.680
<v Speaker 2>In twenty nineteen when Breeze went down, Teddy came in

499
00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and started five games, went five and zero, put up

500
00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:21.839
<v Speaker 2>some big numbers. They look really good, and then after

501
00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.519
<v Speaker 2>that it was time for him to cash in, and

502
00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>he still made the right decision because he got a

503
00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.880
<v Speaker 2>deal that changed his life financially. I mean, he's already

504
00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:35.799
<v Speaker 2>an NFL player at the time, making a lot of money.

505
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But when he got that contract with the with the

506
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers after two seasons in New Orleans, I mean,

507
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:44.839
<v Speaker 2>what was that. He has a three year, sixty three

508
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.920
<v Speaker 2>million dollar contract. Now a lot of people said, well,

509
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 2>he should have just stayed behind and waited for Breese

510
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:52.160
<v Speaker 2>to retire. Then they would have just handed him the job.

511
00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:54.319
<v Speaker 2>And you might have been right, But like, you don't

512
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:57.759
<v Speaker 2>know that for certain, right, I mean, you just you can't.

513
00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:00.440
<v Speaker 2>You can't pass up on especially when he already had

514
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.559
<v Speaker 2>the injury that he had. If somebody's going to pay

515
00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>him that much money, three years, sixty three million, you

516
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>can't turn that down. So I hated that everybody was like,

517
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:12.519
<v Speaker 2>he made a mistake. He should have stayed in New

518
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Orleans as Breeze is backup for one more year. But like,

519
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 2>that's not I mean, you're not in his shoes. This

520
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>isn't Madden. This is his life. This is his chance

521
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to get a paycheck. Essentially, really a contract that he

522
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>probably never thought he'd ever see again or anything close

523
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>to it because of the injury that he had. So

524
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 2>it did not work out in Carolina. He was only

525
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>there one year and they were bad and he wasn't good.

526
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I also, you know, to defend him, like,

527
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who would have been good for Carolina

528
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that year. Then he got traded for Denver and then

529
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 2>after that, it's kind of all she wrote as far

530
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.440
<v Speaker 2>as him being a starting quarterback. So I think people

531
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:50.720
<v Speaker 2>will remember him for bouncing back from that injury coming back.

532
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>But I think the best days, like when people think

533
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>of Teddy Bridgewater on the field making plays, being a

534
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:58.559
<v Speaker 2>successful quarterback, they think of him being the breeze backup

535
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.519
<v Speaker 2>because the Saints were having a phenomenon and he came

536
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.039
<v Speaker 2>in and they didn't miss abeat. They went every game,

537
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So they'll think of that, and then also think of

538
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:07.559
<v Speaker 2>the twenty fifteen season where he went eleven and five

539
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.519
<v Speaker 2>and they lost because of a pathetic kicker. That's what

540
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 2>ended up happening. Speaking of quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers, he's out

541
00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 2>in New York. Apparently he traveled to New York on

542
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 2>his own dime to meet with the team last week

543
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>and they alerted him that he would be his services

544
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>were no longer needed. That's essentially what they told him.

545
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:36.640
<v Speaker 2>And look, he's a really talented guy. And I've always

546
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.640
<v Speaker 2>thought he seemed like a real I don't know, I

547
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know him, so maybe this is the wrong assumption

548
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:45.039
<v Speaker 2>to make, But to me, he kind of seems like

549
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the worst.

550
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Like I just have never liked that guy.

551
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 2>He has a weird I don't like who likes arrogance, right,

552
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:54.880
<v Speaker 2>But he's got like a smug arrogance about him that

553
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I just can't stand. Like I'd rather you be flamboyant

554
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>with your arrogance than just like the smug.

555
00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 3>And then the whole.

556
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.079
<v Speaker 2>And I don't even I don't care about his anti

557
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 2>vaxxing stuff, like not that I agree with a lot

558
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.039
<v Speaker 2>of his nonsense, but I genuinely just don't care. But

559
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he has such an insecurity to want to

560
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>seem as if he is just on a different level

561
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.920
<v Speaker 2>than all of us intellectually. So he challenges anything that's like,

562
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, mainstream authority kind of stuff. He goes in

563
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the woods and lives in a box for a you know,

564
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:31.160
<v Speaker 2>a month or something, calls it some retreat. I mean,

565
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and look, maybe he's genuine, but I think he's a

566
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.519
<v Speaker 2>very insecure human that does a lot of this stuff

567
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 2>for like attension, and it's backfired because I think the

568
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>way he's handled himself the last like three or four

569
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 2>years has made it to where not many people like

570
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.400
<v Speaker 2>him at all. So not a big fan. That was

571
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>a long winded way of me saying all of that

572
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>to say, I've always felt like he's one of the

573
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>best quarterbacks that I've ever watched in the NFL in

574
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 2>my time as a football fan. Now he's he didn't

575
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>look that great this year, although he did actually he

576
00:26:57.759 --> 00:26:59.160
<v Speaker 2>specifically finished.

577
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Rather strong, but the Jets were just, you know, a mess.

578
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>So I am very intrigued to see where he ends up,

579
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>what kind of deal he gets, because at forty one

580
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know, still freshly off of a torn achilles,

581
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, teams that know that their weakness might be

582
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>quarterback play, wouldn't they be foolish not to go get him?

583
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of answer my question by saying, like

584
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>he's not a good locker room guy, like he's gonna

585
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>come in and not going to conform to what you're

586
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.359
<v Speaker 2>doing as far as your identity, your culture, He's going

587
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 2>to come in and want to run the show. Likes

588
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he's very much, very much self absorbed. And I mean,

589
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:43.839
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, the Jets shouldn't have been as bad

590
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>as they were, right, I mean, I don't know. I

591
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 2>just what makes it so fascinating to me is because

592
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I think even at an older age and fresh off

593
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>of an injury, he's shown enough.

594
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 3>To where he'll have a job.

595
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 2>But I could also see teams that might really, you know,

596
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>seem like the type of team that would benefit from him.

597
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Right now saying no, I'm not going to do it

598
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>because we know we now know what comes with bringing

599
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers into our into our franchise. But have you

600
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>heard anything Austin as far as which teams may like

601
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 2>be interested?

602
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 4>No, I haven't, But I did hear was it? I

603
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 4>can't remember who it was, but I saw a really

604
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 4>good review on Chook about a week ago and how

605
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 4>he had a pretty good like Senior Bowl campaign and

606
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 4>how he looked.

607
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

608
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm talking about I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers.

609
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought you were talking about Chuck Stone.

610
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 5>No, No, if anything, Uh, because I I the last

611
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 5>lot to take on The last I saw was that,

612
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:47.160
<v Speaker 5>and I think this actually actually no.

613
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I saw it on Twitter thinking it was nonsense, and

614
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>then Colin referenced it yesterday on his show. I say, Colin, like,

615
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I know him firsthand. That's your guy cow Heard. We

616
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>are technically kind of colleagues, right, he's on this station

617
00:28:58.519 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and he works for iHeart.

618
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 4>He leads right into our show. Yeah, we're peers. He's

619
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:04.359
<v Speaker 4>my lead in. That's right.

620
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 2>But he mentioned Mike Tomlin and the Steelers, and I'm thinking,

621
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 2>what that seems like the least compatible. But apparently there

622
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>is like a bromance to where Rogers and Tomlin have

623
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>always had like a lot of respect for one another.

624
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>But that's a there's a difference in that then signing

625
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 2>up to have him come in, because look, the Steelers

626
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>are they are quite literally the one NFL franchise that

627
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do what they're gonna do. They don't care

628
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>who you are. I mean, that's why they've kept Tomlin

629
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>as long as they have. He fits exactly what their ownership,

630
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>with their front office wants to do. They do way

631
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 2>more with less. In man, no team has ever in

632
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:43.279
<v Speaker 2>my lifetime been able to get a lot out of somebody,

633
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 2>they start bitching and crying about money. Then they let

634
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>him walk, and those guys can't even maintain employment in

635
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the National Football League once they're no longer within the

636
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Steelers organization. So to me, that seems like the least

637
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>compatible thing ever. But then again, I don't know, Like

638
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe they have such a such a consistent and respected

639
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>culture that Rogers would go in and kind of know, like, hey,

640
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>there's one place I'm not going to run the show.

641
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 3>It's in Pittsburgh.

642
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 2>But he look, I thought about my colts doing something

643
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>to get him, and I don't like him, but I

644
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>know he's way better than anybody else we have.

645
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 3>And we're already a joke anyway. If Aaron Rodgers.

646
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Wants to come and bring, you know, his Shenanigans and

647
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 2>really mess things up even further, what's it gonna hurt?

648
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 2>We already are a joke. I mean that's kind of

649
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the way I view it. But again, like it comes

650
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>down to money, and I'm not sure what kind of

651
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>deal he thinks he's gonna get. I mean, this is

652
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>without question, wouldn't you say, Austin the most humbling stretch

653
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 2>of Aaron Rodgers' career where he's basically.

654
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Been dumped by the Jets, Right, it's one thing to.

655
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 4>A poor guy, right, Yeah, who would have thought that

656
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Rodgers, the leader and the great character that he is,

657
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 4>would just destroy the organization from within? He got like

658
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.920
<v Speaker 4>so he got like three people fire her.

659
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's what he does. I mean, that's

660
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's quite literally what he does. And it's

661
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>one thing if if his play is just so like

662
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>when you really get down to balancing the pluses and minuses,

663
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>the pros and the cons, I'm not I'm not sure

664
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 2>he's really ever because you get him. If he's if

665
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 2>he's the piece that puts it to where you're actually

666
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 2>going to potentially maybe win a Super Bowl. Yes, but

667
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I just don't really know if there's a team out

668
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.039
<v Speaker 2>there right now and where Rogers is right now in

669
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>his career, I just don't see a scenario where you know,

670
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 2>he like, honestly, the teams that we view as legitimate

671
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>teams that could potentially get to the Super Bowl next

672
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>year as of right now. Obviously there's a lot that

673
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>could change from now until the next season. We just

674
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>ended the season two days ago. But I just like

675
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who would, who would who would make

676
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>that kind of a deal because they feel like he's

677
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the guy that really puts.

678
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Him over the top.

679
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, let me just do a quick little Google

680
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 2>search here, because the Steelers can't be Yeah they are. Yeah,

681
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 2>there's already DraftKings are. There's odds out there as far

682
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>as the betting favorites for the next Aaron Rodgers destination,

683
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and the Steelers are the betting favorite.

684
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 4>Which again interesting.

685
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>They make sense for every reason other than the fact

686
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>that they don't put up with this nonsense, right Like

687
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>they didn't pay Antonio Brown, they didn't pay Levey on

688
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Bell when everybody else would have, and they let those

689
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 2>guys walk, and clearly they look smart for doing so.

690
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I just Aaron Rodgers would have to. I mean, I

691
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

692
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to say that that somebody is

693
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.119
<v Speaker 2>stupid if they want to bring in Aaron Rodgers as

694
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>their quarterback, because you know, he's Aaron Rodgers. But I

695
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 2>just feel like it's it certainly seemed towards the end

696
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>in Green Bay as if he was a bigger issue

697
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 2>for them than he was. Like a positive, he was

698
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 2>a good quarterback, but man, their culture wasn't great. He

699
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>was toxic, he was a diva, and man, the guy

700
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>hadn't won a Super Bowl yet. But Jordan Love has

701
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>been able to do just fine. I mean, like they

702
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 2>haven't really missed Aaron Rodgers, to be honest with you,

703
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>because you know, he had some really good seasons, and.

704
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>You know he did have one Super Bowl.

705
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 2>But oftentimes you'd get a really good year of Aaron

706
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers where he put up big time numbers. The Packers

707
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>were good, but never never good enough to get back

708
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>to a Super Bowl.

709
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

710
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the Steelers have enough confidence and beliefs in what

711
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>they do to where Rogers wouldn't be able to kind

712
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of wreck things like he has at the end in

713
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay. And certainly, I mean, look, the Jets are

714
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>a mess anyway. I can't blame that at all on Rogers.

715
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>We are talking about the New York Jets. But I

716
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 2>would definitely sign up to see him in Pittsburgh just

717
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to see how that would play out. But the other

718
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 2>teams in by the way, this absolutely makes sense. I

719
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>just out of sight, out of mind. I wouldn't thinking

720
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>about him now. This probably wouldn't put.

721
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Them over the top to where they'd be a super

722
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Bowl contender.

723
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>But man, the Raiders, aren't they the kind of team

724
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that you could absolutely see making a move for him.

725
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 4>Of course they just got in. Uh they just Pete Carroll, right, Yeah,

726
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 4>just dug up Pete Carroll to come in. And that's

727
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 4>that seems like somebody the whole bag of bones. Yeah,

728
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm shocked, you know, But if he's got

729
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years left in him, that's somebody that

730
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 4>I think Aaron thinks that he could probably boss around

731
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 4>rather closer than I would think.

732
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 3>To take his seat. Grandpa, party's over.

733
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>He'll tell the coordinator upstairs, Hey, turn his head set off.

734
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Just don't tell him, you know, we'll let him think

735
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>he's talking to us. But he's not Weekend at Bernie's

736
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of situation. I mean, but the Raiders, they're not

737
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in any way built with a roster that, like Rogers,

738
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>is the piece that puts him over, because I mean,

739
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>where's who Who are the Raiders franchise players right now?

740
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Like? Who who right now is like the key who

741
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 3>are the key pieces for them?

742
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean they got brought Bowers really good tight end,

743
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 2>but I mean outside of that, I mean, I don't.

744
00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Max Crosby, who's there might be looking to ship or

745
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 4>he's wanting to get out.

746
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Well it is wild how that works, man, because you

747
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>can have guys who like Sometimes you look at a

748
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 2>guy who has put together many seasons where they are

749
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>one of the best in the league at their position

750
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 2>week in and week out, you say, that guy is

751
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a key piece to what we do. But if you

752
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>don't win at a high level, what's the value?

753
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Right? So, like you're now so you're.

754
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Now seeing big time players that you feel like, who

755
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 2>would get rid of him? Well, hey, we had him,

756
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 2>he was great, but we didn't win, so we might

757
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>as well trust something different. So anyways, the other teams

758
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 2>that have odds here at least, you know, good odds

759
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 2>to land Rogers.

760
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 3>It's the Steelers.

761
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Currently at two to one, and then after that you've

762
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>got the Raiders at three to one, and then the

763
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 2>forty nine Ers plus three point fifty, which.

764
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that'll happen.

765
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got other teams like the Vikings and

766
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>the Titans and the Colts.

767
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 3>The Vikings aren't doing that right.

768
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 4>No, thank you.

769
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Are they gonna what are they gonna do? With with

770
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.400
<v Speaker 2>with Donald.

771
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 4>I think that they're probably gonna move on. Yeah, I

772
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 4>think I think it's just gonna be full blown JJ

773
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 4>McCarthy season. But I know that there's always that fun

774
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 4>parallel because uh uh, Brett Farv did the same thing

775
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 4>when he went to the Jets and kind of fake retired,

776
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 4>then really retired, then came back and then he had

777
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 4>one of the years of his career in Minnesota. But

778
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 4>at least Brett Farv, I know he's been weird the

779
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 4>last couple of years, but he was likable in Green Bay,

780
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 4>like he just he just had a flux with with

781
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 4>the ownership there. But by all means he was a

782
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 4>great teammate.

783
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like his ego got the best of them at

784
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the end. Yes, you know what I mean, and that

785
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that really kind of made that thing in sourly.

786
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 4>But I want no part of Aaron Rodgers at the stage.

787
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't either.

788
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding you, I mean, can can What do

789
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 2>you what do you want for Donald?

790
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm the Colts.

791
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to you as the brass here of the

792
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis Colts.

793
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 3>What do you want?

794
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe actually second third round?

795
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 3>He's not even under contract, is he uh no, not

796
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 3>coming up.

797
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 4>But it's a franchise tag him, then that's gonna be.

798
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 3>So they could franchise tag him and then move him.

799
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 4>And then move him, but I think that that would

800
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of lower his value. You're probably looking at a

801
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 4>third or fourth round pick for him, because once you

802
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 4>franchise tag him, other teams are going to know that

803
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 4>they're only doing this so they can keep them and

804
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 4>trade them, that they're not looking for him to be

805
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 4>their quarterback for next year. So they're going to leverage

806
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 4>that and all right, we'll send you a fourth rounder

807
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 4>or something like that. But it's all they're all banking of.

808
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 4>They've seen Kevin O'Connell, the head coach, who's one Coach

809
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 4>of the Year by the way, and he's what it's

810
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 4>QB Rehabilitation School is what Kevin O'Connell is running up there.

811
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 4>And who knows, they might go with Daniel Jones next

812
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 4>year to start and then subtly move in JJ McCarthy.

813
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.960
<v Speaker 2>But frush Shadow rehab in Minnesota. Send Sam Darnold right

814
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>down to to Indianapolis.

815
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Let's do it.

816
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd feel better about that than any of

817
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>the other quarterback options. We've had since Andrew Luck retired.

818
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 4>He's in a dome. You know, it's not not that

819
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 4>that too big of a you know, the conference that

820
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 4>he's in, is it really, you know, too tough?

821
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, it really is a no brainer, because

822
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>they can't lie to themselves and act like Anthony Richardson's

823
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 2>the answer.

824
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Trust me, they can't do that.

825
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 4>They've been trying that for too long now.

826
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, any any game watching him is a sign

827
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>that he's not the guy.

828
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 4>But everybody just keeps saying that there's there's still something

829
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 4>left to him.

830
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>They said they said that about Tebow early on too.

831
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>And and by the way, now I'm not kidding. Anthony

832
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Richardson broke Tebow's record for the work for the worst

833
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>passing completion percentage for a starting quarterback in an NFL season.

834
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 4>We'll just trade you Darnold for Richardson straight up.

835
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Like the signs are there, you're gonnaut him at punt

836
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>returner or something. I mean, Richardson is I mean, he

837
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 2>could maybe do some things, but you don't get to

838
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 2>the NFL and then become a good quarterback.

839
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 4>It's never happened, right, and he never a Project Child

840
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:43.559
<v Speaker 4>coming out like a Project.

841
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah Child's he's not it, but quick Break will come

842
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 2>back on the other side. And uh, in fact, you

843
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 2>want to just double up here with that makes more

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<v Speaker 2>sense since the clock management was not it was not great.

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<v Speaker 4>Double up.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, let's do that. Let's do that. Stick around five

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock hours next