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Speaker 5: do we have a lot of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 5: I got a ton of stuff on the blog. I
Speaker 5: can already tell you Nancy's not going to be happy
Speaker 5: with this one either. Okay, I go as fast as
Speaker 5: I can. I do, I really do. We also have
Speaker 5: some great guests today, and it's going to be one
Speaker 5: of those shows where we have something kind of intellectual,
Speaker 5: we have something political, and we have something completely off
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Speaker 5: Did you watch Denver's Love Is Blind? Finale? Looking for
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Speaker 5: Goes with the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot.
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Speaker 5: Seriously, that old broad she's getting really picky.
Speaker 6: In her old ash.
Speaker 5: Dang it, man, going as fast as I can.
Speaker 6: Nancy can't help.
Speaker 5: But if there's a lot of information that I need
Speaker 5: to impart to the four people who read the blog
Speaker 5: every day. By the way, if you ever want to
Speaker 5: it is the Johns soundbrae. I'll fix it. I'll fix it,
Speaker 5: you guys. Somebody pointed that out earlier and I just
Speaker 5: didn't have time to go fix it. And now I
Speaker 5: will fix it on the break cuz I got to
Speaker 5: here a little late today.
Speaker 6: One of those days. You ever just have one of
Speaker 6: those days.
Speaker 5: We're just feeling a little running late the whole day yesterday, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 6: It's this morning. I've been running a little late.
Speaker 8: I had to get gas faster than I ever got
Speaker 8: gas yesterday. I had to be one of those I
Speaker 8: was right off the highway and then put them right
Speaker 8: back on in like sixty seconds.
Speaker 5: How like a pitstop?
Speaker 8: Yes woot.
Speaker 5: Taking her wheels off and putting new ones on and
Speaker 5: everything out of it.
Speaker 8: My car would have still finished top five, top ten
Speaker 8: in that rate.
Speaker 6: How big is your gas tank?
Speaker 8: Not very big? I mean we're talking three fifty four
Speaker 8: hundred miles.
Speaker 5: That But for that car, I'm guessing sixteen gallons.
Speaker 8: Like sixteen gallons, same amount of gas miles, well not
Speaker 8: gas mileage, same amount of gas that gets me going somewhere,
Speaker 8: as my Explorer was right, But I unlike the Explorer
Speaker 8: nineteen twenty miles per gallon, I get thirty miles per.
Speaker 5: Gallon exactly, so much better, Yeah, much better. My gas
Speaker 5: tank is twenty six gallons. And when I'm in Thelign
Speaker 5: at Costco the people get so annoyed, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I swear I'm still fueling. Don't worry.
Speaker 8: You won't see me for a month. Seriously, I fell
Speaker 8: up like two and a half times a week. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 8: at least twice.
Speaker 6: Holy macaroni, Kay, Holy.
Speaker 8: And a half hours. Three hours. And the Carl Dudia, Oh,
Speaker 8: that's just work.
Speaker 5: You just hurt my heart. Yeah, it hurt my heart
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Well I'm kind of join the sub three gas
Speaker 8: right now. So yeah, there you go, keep it going.
Speaker 8: Gas prices are ticking down. I saw a story about
Speaker 8: that today. I did not put it on the blog.
Speaker 8: I should have, but I did.
Speaker 5: Have an experience that I did mention this on the
Speaker 5: blog because I've got a video of George Stephanopolis talking
Speaker 5: to the CEO of Walmart. Okay, and George stephanoppflis kind
Speaker 5: of tease up this question about Thanksgiving and it kind
Speaker 5: of starts it with I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but he
Speaker 5: kind of starts it along the lines of, now that
Speaker 5: everything's so expensive, what are people gonna have to shill
Speaker 5: out for Thanksgiving this year?
Speaker 6: Some variation of that, you know, and.
Speaker 5: The Walmart CEO is like, Oh, we've got this basket
Speaker 5: that includes everything you'd want for Thanksgiving. It's got your stuffing,
Speaker 5: it's got your turkey, it's about everything. And he said
Speaker 5: it's fourteen dollars cheaper this year than it was last year.
Speaker 5: Uh oh, sorry, George, sorry, the turkey.
Speaker 6: Price is going up. That was last year's news.
Speaker 5: That was or we'll just call it button admin rules.
Speaker 6: So that was interesting. I've got that on the blog.
Speaker 5: But no, I went to the grocery store Monday, and
Speaker 5: I meant to talk about this because I went to
Speaker 5: the grocery store and I buy pretty much the same thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, you, guys, you realize when you go grocery shopping,
Speaker 5: you're buying pretty much the same things over and over again. Right,
Speaker 5: So if you're like me and your price sensitive, you
Speaker 5: pay attention to how much things cost when you're buying
Speaker 5: the same things over and over again. And I got
Speaker 5: to tell you, like a lot of the things that
Speaker 5: I buy a lot of have dropped in price, some
Speaker 5: of them dramatically. I buy this turkey sausage, it's dropped
Speaker 5: by like like ninety cents and not an on sale price,
Speaker 5: like the normal price is ninety cents lower than it was.
Speaker 6: So I feel like I know.
Speaker 5: That prices are going up on other things. I get it,
Speaker 5: but there are some areas where it's starting to feel
Speaker 5: like am I just the only one that felt that way?
Speaker 5: Has anyone else noticed that with their grocery bill?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 5: Is the text line, go ahead and text me there?
Speaker 5: What's interesting is, look, I now look at how many
Speaker 5: groceries I get for whatever amount of money. Right, It's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I got that, I got that for one hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty dollars.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm now one hundred years old, apparently.
Speaker 5: So that's how you deal with rising prices, is you
Speaker 5: just you just talk about them as if you know,
Speaker 5: as if as if there's some kind of fantasy that
Speaker 5: you can't control.
Speaker 6: Sub three dollars gas?
Speaker 5: Lol, I haven't seen above three dollars in my town. Well,
Speaker 5: aren't you with smarty pants? My ram says this text
Speaker 5: for my Ram thirty five hundred has a fifty gallon
Speaker 5: fuel tank. For being a giant ass truck, it actually
Speaker 5: gets great fuel mileage unloaded.
Speaker 6: You think about people at Costco.
Speaker 5: Getting pissed if I'm a quarter to half a tank
Speaker 5: where I've had them blow the horn. Lol.
Speaker 6: Well, now see what I have, like a mom car.
Speaker 5: At least when I see a big truck, it's reasonable
Speaker 5: to say, well, that truck has a really big gas tank.
Speaker 6: But when you look at my mom car, I.
Speaker 5: Basically have a glorified station wagon crossover thing. Nobody looks
Speaker 5: at that and says, well, that thing probably has a
Speaker 5: pretty good tank in that. I mean, look at that.
Speaker 6: Nobody does that. No one.
Speaker 5: The funniest thing that ever happened to me driving a
Speaker 5: car that was unexpected. I was driving a loaner car
Speaker 5: when my car was in the shop, and it was
Speaker 5: a Mercedes like Mom car, but it was a diesel.
Speaker 5: So I pulled up the diesel pump on the end
Speaker 5: at the convenience store where the diesel pumps usually are,
Speaker 5: and this guy in a big truck comes rolling around.
Speaker 5: He's like, could you have used another pump? And I
Speaker 5: just pointed to the car and went it's diesel, and
Speaker 5: he was like, oh man, I'm sorry, so sorry. It's like,
Speaker 5: there you go, Mandy stuck up when right Brand Bacon
Speaker 5: goes on saying are you kidding me? I have a
Speaker 5: freezer full of righte brand bacon Because of that. You
Speaker 5: really don't know how thrifty I am. So Mandy has
Speaker 5: three more blog viewers than she does listeners go darn touton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably probably, Man.
Speaker 5: I had a flat at the tunnels this morning.
Speaker 6: What no sympathy?
Speaker 5: I am so sorry, Texter, so sorry. Whatever I said
Speaker 5: was wrong with my day. Your day is worse. There
Speaker 5: you go, Yes, Mandy, you're the only one food except chicken.
Speaker 5: What Mandy? Our price is dropping dramatically or grammatically? Haven't
Speaker 5: seen prices go down Kings super shopper? I had not
Speaker 5: either until Monday. And then, like I said, I because
Speaker 5: we've been out of town. So I had to stalk
Speaker 5: up on some staples, right, the staples that you buy
Speaker 5: all the time, and I noticed, how whoa some of
Speaker 5: these are a lot cheaper. Now, let me tell you
Speaker 5: what's coming up on the show today, because we got
Speaker 5: a lot coming up on the show. First of all,
Speaker 5: at twelve thirty, if you heard us talking about Love
Speaker 5: is Blind yesterday, well we got one of the contestants
Speaker 5: on Love is Blind. The finale dropped at midnight. A
Speaker 5: Rod is not watched it yet, so this is hilarious.
Speaker 5: So a Rod is going to have to listen to
Speaker 5: me do an interview without any spoilers, even though because
Speaker 5: I read this recap, I already know what happened. So
Speaker 5: we're gonna have her on and I'm dying to just
Speaker 5: ask questions about what makes people want to do a
Speaker 5: show like this. I'm curious. I'm very, very curious about that.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna do that at twelve thirty at one o'clock,
Speaker 5: Lindsay Datko from jeff Co Kids First. We've got some
Speaker 5: we got some fun stuff in jeff Co Schools and again,
Speaker 5: what are we doing. We're paying attention to the school
Speaker 5: board races today it's jeff Co's turn.
Speaker 6: The union had endorsed some candidates. Well, they have now rescinded.
Speaker 5: Their endorsement of one of them after some unpleasant business
Speaker 5: from that candidate's past was brought to the attention of
Speaker 5: jeff Co Kids First, who did a very good job
Speaker 5: in sharing the information in such a way as to
Speaker 5: be sensitive to the nature of the churches. We're going
Speaker 5: to talk to Lindsay dat COO about that and the
Speaker 5: current Jefferson County Public Schools Board of Education member and
Speaker 5: your comments about safety being a privilege not a right,
Speaker 5: that was in the first meeting back from the Evergreen shooting,
Speaker 5: by the way, and then.
Speaker 6: I am so nerded out.
Speaker 5: And I love this so much because if you guys
Speaker 5: have listened to the show, you've heard Travis Bokenstead on
Speaker 5: the show before, and you may have heard that some
Speaker 5: people are going to see rates go up in this
Speaker 5: open enrollment period for their health insurance.
Speaker 6: I want to offer you options.
Speaker 5: We do have free market solutions here in Denver, We
Speaker 5: really do, and I have two of them coming on
Speaker 5: the show today. I have Travis Bocknstead. He is with
Speaker 5: a company Pinnacle Advanced primary Care. They do direct primary care.
Speaker 5: It is the best system. It is so affordable and
Speaker 5: coupled with a MENA share plan and you can get
Speaker 5: coverage for everything. And I cannot recommend it highly enough.
Speaker 5: It is not health insurance. It is access to health care. Okay,
Speaker 5: I want to be really clear, and we'll get into
Speaker 5: this later. But now I just found out about another
Speaker 5: medical practice called Smith Medical. Wait, let me hang on,
Speaker 5: let me make sure I get this this name right.
Speaker 5: Make sure I got this absolutely right. Smith Medical Direct
Speaker 5: Specialty Care. Now, if you've listened to the show for
Speaker 5: any length of time, you may have heard me talk
Speaker 5: about the Oklahoma surgeon of the Oklahoma City Surgical Center.
Speaker 5: The Oklahoma City Surgical Center was the first place in
Speaker 5: the country to say, Okay, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna open a surgical center with really
Speaker 5: good doctors, and then we're gonna make everything cash pay. Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna just say you're gonna cash pay and go
Speaker 5: from there, and and we're gonna make a website and
Speaker 5: we're gonna put all of our prices on that website.
Speaker 6: And that's what they did.
Speaker 5: So not only is it absolutely transparent pricing, they have
Speaker 5: also had a downward effect on the hospitals in the
Speaker 5: immediate vicinity of the Oklahoma City Surgical Center when it
Speaker 5: comes to what they can now expect to charge for
Speaker 5: those same surgeries. Well, I found out we've got one here.
Speaker 5: So today Travis Backinstead from Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care and
Speaker 5: CEO Lisa Fagan from Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care are
Speaker 5: going to be on to talk about how you can
Speaker 5: have access to incredible medical care without breaking the bank.
Speaker 6: So lots of good stuff happening there. That's coming up
Speaker 6: at two thirty.
Speaker 5: So as you can see we've got a very busy show,
Speaker 5: and I have all this other stuff on the blog
Speaker 5: that we're probably not going to get to, but I
Speaker 5: want to get in one school board story really quickly.
Speaker 5: There's a great article, and what are we talking about
Speaker 5: school board races?
Speaker 6: For you guys. Three things.
Speaker 5: Number one, you got kids in schools and you don't
Speaker 5: want them to suck. Number Two, you don't have kids
Speaker 5: in schools, but you own property in the district and
Speaker 5: you want to make sure you're getting a return on
Speaker 5: all of those property taxes that you're paying. And number three,
Speaker 5: if you want a vibrant economy, you must have a
Speaker 5: vibrant public school system. Companies look at that when they're
Speaker 5: moving people to new places. It is a big part.
Speaker 5: If you have a large workforce. You're expecting a large workforce,
Speaker 5: especially of young people. You want to make sure that
Speaker 5: our schools are good. And I'll add in number four.
Speaker 5: These people are going to be in charge of your
Speaker 5: nursing homes when you're old, so let's make sure they're
Speaker 5: getting a decent education. Okay, that's why we're paying attention
Speaker 5: to school board races. I've got something in Douglas County
Speaker 5: I thought was super interesting. There's a lot of questions,
Speaker 5: and there's a CBS four story on the two different
Speaker 5: slates of candidates that are running, and one of the
Speaker 5: things that I jumped out of me actually was a
Speaker 5: comment from one of the union.
Speaker 6: Back to candidates.
Speaker 5: There are four candidates running that the Douglas County Federation
Speaker 5: has endorsed and that the AMERICA or a American Teaching
Speaker 5: what is it ATF American Teachers Associate Federation. I can't
Speaker 5: remember what ATF stands for. They are four candidates. One
Speaker 5: of them is I believe his name is Brian Callahan.
Speaker 5: He's quoted in this story for CBS saying no one
Speaker 5: on our slate has committed to a collective bargaining agreement.
Speaker 5: What I think we are really eager to do is
Speaker 5: to sit down and listen to teachers and all educators
Speaker 5: and listen to what they need to be successful in
Speaker 5: the classroom and working with our kids.
Speaker 6: Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 5: The reason that's important, and especially in Douglas County is
Speaker 5: Douglas County did away with their collective bargaining agreement many
Speaker 5: years ago, and since then they have ascended to the
Speaker 5: top of the heap both in the metro area, they
Speaker 5: are the highest performing school district, and they have also
Speaker 5: done that for every school district of their size in
Speaker 5: the state. So I was surprised to hear that when
Speaker 5: I have a letter from the Douglas County Federation that says,
Speaker 5: in endorsing the four candidates, they endorse it. We believe
Speaker 5: electing these four candidates who are running as a slate
Speaker 5: will give us the best chance of restoring collective bargaining
Speaker 5: and getting a contract.
Speaker 9: Huh.
Speaker 5: But that's not all, then, the ATF whatever, the Teachers
Speaker 5: Federation American Teachers Federation, they sent out in their newsletter
Speaker 5: information about the various candidates.
Speaker 6: And they break it down.
Speaker 5: Candidate number one has made it very clear she would
Speaker 5: fight for educators to secure a strong and binding contract.
Speaker 5: Candidate two, and this is a quote, by the way,
Speaker 5: from the newsletter they sent out. While supportive, he was
Speaker 5: more cautious about how publicly vocal he would be during
Speaker 5: the election cycle, not shouting it from the rooftops. He
Speaker 5: understands that his public position on collective bargaining while trying
Speaker 5: to get elected is different from his public stance one elected.
Speaker 5: Now Candidate number three, this is what they said. Admitted
Speaker 5: she has green in certain areas, but demonstrated openness and
Speaker 5: a genuine desire to grow into the role. Non committal
Speaker 5: candidate for mister Callahan, who said none of the candidates
Speaker 5: had committed to a collective bargaining agreement, appeared open to
Speaker 5: the idea but hesitant to commit publicly at this time.
Speaker 5: Emphasized he would not make decisions without input from staff
Speaker 5: and wanted to hear directly from district educators before fully deciding.
Speaker 5: Also an open mind, but it's hard to say that
Speaker 5: the other two have not at least signaled to the
Speaker 5: union their intention to bring back a collective bargaining agreement
Speaker 5: while telling the public something different. So I just think
Speaker 5: take that into account because all of these races matter.
Speaker 5: You guys, If you want to know how our schools
Speaker 5: have gone insane, it's because we stopped paying attention to
Speaker 5: school boarding. You want to know why kids think that
Speaker 5: they can change gender when they're three, because we stop
Speaker 5: paying attention to school board races. I mean, that's people
Speaker 5: talk about getting the culture back. We have to get
Speaker 5: the schools into some semblance of a political life.
Speaker 6: That's all I want from schools.
Speaker 5: I don't want schools to never have any teachers who
Speaker 5: lean left. I don't want any of that. I don't
Speaker 5: want to know the politics of a single person who
Speaker 5: works at a school. That's what I want for my kids,
Speaker 5: and we don't have that now, and we don't have
Speaker 5: leadership in these districts that wants the same thing. So, okay,
Speaker 5: here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna take a very quick
Speaker 5: time out. I'm gonna fix my mistake on the blog,
Speaker 5: and then we're going to come back with one of
Speaker 5: the contestants cast members. I guess they should say from
Speaker 5: the now wrapped up season of Love is Blind Denver.
Speaker 5: So we're going to do that next. Keep it right
Speaker 5: here on KWA. We've got to get into this.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: First of all, Madison Maidenberg, welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5: You were one of the contestants on Love Is Blind,
Speaker 5: and I have to ask this question, what makes someone
Speaker 5: You're an attractive woman, what makes someone go, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm gonna I'm just gonna sign up to get
Speaker 5: married on television. What was that thought process like for you?
Speaker 6: It's a great question. You know, I've always watched Love
Speaker 6: is Blind.
Speaker 7: I absolutely loved the concept and the experiment, and you know,
Speaker 7: with my eye condition, I have something called retinitis pigmentosa
Speaker 7: and it is considered a blinding eye disease.
Speaker 6: So I really wanted to.
Speaker 7: Go on the show because it simulates what my life
Speaker 7: could be like if I were to lose my vision,
Speaker 7: and it was just incredible to be able to kind
Speaker 7: of get a taste of that and feel that.
Speaker 6: Out in this experiment.
Speaker 5: So now that you're on the other side of it,
Speaker 5: the show has aired, we cannot have any spoilers, by
Speaker 5: the way, because Anthony and his friends, you are die
Speaker 5: hard fans, they're not watching until tonight, So we'll just pretend.
Speaker 5: We'll just talk around what you know, things that happened
Speaker 5: or didn't happen. We'll just leave it all out there.
Speaker 5: But i'd love to know from your perspective, now that
Speaker 5: you've seen how they edit you, they see what happens.
Speaker 6: What do you think you would you do it again?
Speaker 7: You know, honestly, I would do this experiment a thousand
Speaker 7: times over. I mean, just the amount of personal growth
Speaker 7: that I got from this, it's insurmountable and I.
Speaker 6: Could have never expected it.
Speaker 7: You know, obviously my story didn't end with a fairy
Speaker 7: tale ending the way I.
Speaker 6: Would have hoped.
Speaker 7: But I always say I really did find love in
Speaker 7: the Pods, and that was through the incredible women that
Speaker 7: were there that've become my personal Pod squad, and also
Speaker 7: just the love that.
Speaker 6: I found in myself.
Speaker 8: Madison, we have been talking so much on the show
Speaker 8: over the really the course of years, from textures that
Speaker 8: say that the love scene, the dating scene in Denver
Speaker 8: is notoriously just one of the worst, if not the worst,
Speaker 8: in the country. What do you say to those out
Speaker 8: there that say that this season of Love is Blind
Speaker 8: did not really help that narrative?
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, unfortunately, I feel like our season did
Speaker 7: not do my native state the service.
Speaker 6: That it should have been done.
Speaker 7: But you know, the Denver dating scene has been called
Speaker 7: Menver for a reason, and you know, there are definitely
Speaker 7: a few Peter Pans out there, But I think overall,
Speaker 7: really Denver gets such a bad rap, and I want
Speaker 7: to set the record straight that it's not as bad
Speaker 7: as our season.
Speaker 5: You know, and the season wrapped up last night. Did
Speaker 5: you guys already film the reunion show? Because I got
Speaker 5: to tell you when I was a high consumer of
Speaker 5: reality television. I lived for the reunion shows because that's
Speaker 5: when the crap really hit the fan, right, That's when
Speaker 5: the real stuff came out.
Speaker 6: Did you guys already film the reunion?
Speaker 7: We did, and it's coming out next week October twenty ninth.
Speaker 5: Wow. So, now did you learn anything about yourself in
Speaker 5: this process that maybe you weren't expecting in terms of
Speaker 5: what you saw on the screen and you were like, wow,
Speaker 5: didn't know that came across that way?
Speaker 6: I mean, how how?
Speaker 5: Because I can't even imagine putting myself out there like that.
Speaker 5: That's that's a level of brave I just don't have.
Speaker 7: Oh, I appreciate that, Mandy. You know, honestly, I learned
Speaker 7: a lot about myself watching it back. It's definitely it's
Speaker 7: a little bit of a humbling experience. You know, there's
Speaker 7: certain moments they are like, gosh, I didn't realize that
Speaker 7: my face did that, or you know, wow, I didn't
Speaker 7: realize that maybe my total voice came across as this,
Speaker 7: or you know whatever. But I'd say the biggest thing
Speaker 7: that I learned from this is to really trust my intuition.
Speaker 7: You know, there was so much there that I could
Speaker 7: have leaned into and read a little bit better than
Speaker 7: I did in the moment. So I really learned to
Speaker 7: trust my intuition, lean into my gut, you know, and
Speaker 7: really truly not let myself be influenced as much by
Speaker 7: other people's words.
Speaker 8: Well, Madison, a good follow up to that is, I'm
Speaker 8: sure you've heard over the years having watched Love Is
Speaker 8: Buying the horror stories that people have in terms of
Speaker 8: issues with their portrayal on the show. Do you feel
Speaker 8: like the producers the show gave you a good representation
Speaker 8: or do you feel like maybe you fell more into
Speaker 8: that camp of you don't feel like you were portrayed
Speaker 8: the way that you had hoped based on having the
Speaker 8: fact that they pick and choose what they want to show.
Speaker 2: You know, I will.
Speaker 7: Say, in general, I'm really proud of the way that
Speaker 7: Love is Blind handles editing. They're really good about kind
Speaker 7: of capturing the essence of who people are and the
Speaker 7: essence of what conversations are. So, you know, in general,
Speaker 7: do I think maybe my edit shows me being a
Speaker 7: little bit more clinging, a little bit more needy than
Speaker 7: I really am. Yes, But I think it's also important
Speaker 7: to note that I was operating from a space of insecurity,
Speaker 7: you know, because of some of the things that Joe had.
Speaker 6: Said on camera.
Speaker 7: So you know, as far as the edit goes in general,
Speaker 7: I think that you do get a sense for us
Speaker 7: as people, but you don't see all of the other
Speaker 7: moments that kind of create the whole story.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: Did you follow along with any of the online stuff,
Speaker 5: because I know reality shows those like chat areas, message boards, whatever,
Speaker 5: they can be brutal. Did you pay attention to any
Speaker 5: of that?
Speaker 7: Honestly, Manny, I cannot stay out of the comments section.
Speaker 5: I know everyone tells me not to, but damn, it's
Speaker 5: so fun. Sometimes people are so creative. But I love that.
Speaker 5: I love your attitude about that because it's tough. And
Speaker 5: one of the things that I always say about my
Speaker 5: job being in talk radio over the years, like I
Speaker 5: have the thickest skin in the world. Nothing affects me
Speaker 5: if you attack me personally, nothing, I promise you it
Speaker 5: does not affect me. So at a young age, you
Speaker 5: now have had that experience and let it toughen you up.
Speaker 5: It's much easier to go through the world when you
Speaker 5: have a little bit of a thick skin. What advice
Speaker 5: would you give for someone else before going on.
Speaker 6: A show like Love is Blind.
Speaker 5: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: My advice would be really good, get a very good
Speaker 7: sense of who you are and really know who your
Speaker 7: character is at your core, because there are going to
Speaker 7: be so many voices and so many different opinions, and
Speaker 7: if you can really just stay grounded in what you
Speaker 7: know to be true about yourself, then it makes it
Speaker 7: so much easier to deal with the trolls, you.
Speaker 8: Know, Madison last one for me and I've been nice
Speaker 8: and cordial throughout this, but we got to talk about
Speaker 8: Tom some tea at the end of this thing, because
Speaker 8: this season was absolutely bonkers storylines glor or whether be
Speaker 8: Edmund making out with the floor, whether it be Joe's
Speaker 8: scene with you in the hotel room making it seem
Speaker 8: like he was just off the rails watching this thing back.
Speaker 8: It could be whether it be you and Joe or
Speaker 8: any other couple up to the finale. What were some
Speaker 8: of your favorite and most funny highlights that you remember
Speaker 8: from this season.
Speaker 7: Oh, my favorite and most funny highlights. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 7: one of the funny moments for me was like when
Speaker 7: we were in the pods and We're trying to have
Speaker 7: this deep conversation and we have this box of like
Speaker 7: games and toys, and there was this one toy that
Speaker 7: kept making the most obnoxious sounds and We're like in
Speaker 7: the middle of a very deep conversation and it just
Speaker 7: keeps me like bop it, twist it, you know whatever,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 8: So it got to the point that.
Speaker 7: I ended up throwing it out of the pod and
Speaker 7: when I came back out, it's gone.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: It's just kind of funny.
Speaker 7: Seeing the behind the scenes a little bit of just
Speaker 7: how the machine kind of works.
Speaker 6: That was definitely a funny moment.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: Another one that was funny when we were in Mexico
Speaker 7: kind of filming that whole scene with all the group.
Speaker 5: We actually had one on ones with each.
Speaker 6: Other guy and with you know, the guys with each
Speaker 6: other girl.
Speaker 7: And I was trying to go down the stairs and
Speaker 7: production told me that there was like five stairs and
Speaker 7: there were.
Speaker 5: Six, and I fully wiped out, you know.
Speaker 6: And it's just kind of like these silly, little.
Speaker 7: Very human moments that you just don't see as much
Speaker 7: that make it kind of an interesting behind the scenes.
Speaker 8: And I lied, I have I'd be remiss if I
Speaker 8: didn't ask. At the end of the day, how much
Speaker 8: better do you feel knowing the response has been so positive?
Speaker 8: You mentioned Team Madison at the end of the day.
Speaker 8: How really grateful for yourself and your growth at as
Speaker 8: a person in all reality? Are you glad that you
Speaker 8: did not go to the altar with Joe because he's
Speaker 8: bad news? Uh?
Speaker 7: You know, I always say Joe really did me a favor,
Speaker 7: And you know, I'm thankful that things ended when they
Speaker 7: did because I am absolutely a true lover girl and
Speaker 7: when I'm in something, I'm in something and I want
Speaker 7: to see it all the way through. So at the
Speaker 7: end of the day, you know, thank you, Joe gave
Speaker 7: me the favor I couldn't do myself.
Speaker 8: Yes, thank you, Walmart Brand, knockoff Bone, NICKX. We appreciate that.
Speaker 6: That did not happen, Madison Maidenburg.
Speaker 5: Thanks for your time today and best of luck and
Speaker 5: all you do in the future.
Speaker 6: Madison. And you know I couldn't do it. I just
Speaker 6: I could not do it.
Speaker 5: But you know what, A Rod and his friends are
Speaker 5: sure glad you did that because the show you guys
Speaker 5: so much, right.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you so much, Madison.
Speaker 5: All right, you gotta do that a rod, because I
Speaker 5: am going to take a quick time out and when
Speaker 5: I get back, I have so much stuff on the
Speaker 5: blog today, but I want to talk about something that's
Speaker 5: just cool. Right.
Speaker 6: It's not controversial, it's just cool.
Speaker 5: And this is one of those things that we don't
Speaker 5: have enough of happening right now. A couple of guys
Speaker 5: whose home was almost well, I don't want to say
Speaker 5: it came uncomfortably close to the tarbag and fire, or
Speaker 5: rather the tarmaic and fire came uncomfortably close to his
Speaker 5: family's home as at Silverthorne. So he said, you know what,
Speaker 5: We're going to create a way to protect homes in
Speaker 5: a wildfire. I'm going to tell you about it when
Speaker 5: we get back. It's super super cool. Listen to this story.
Speaker 5: I love this so much. I think this is so cool.
Speaker 5: For whatever reason. I love the idea of kind of
Speaker 5: an inventor, right, like you know, an inventor sitting just
Speaker 5: tinkering in his garage. Two graduates from Colorado's Summit High
Speaker 5: School who grew up watching wildfires threaten the mountain hometowns.
Speaker 5: They're leading the way to help homeowners protect their properties.
Speaker 5: Their company Defense Delivered builds fully autonomous wildfire sprinkler systems
Speaker 5: that can detect heat from approaching flames and sparks and
Speaker 5: automatically hose down a home in targeted areas to ideally
Speaker 5: prevent it from burning dustin dolamor As the CEO, he
Speaker 5: said he got the idea after his home was uncomfortably
Speaker 5: close to the Ptarmigan fire. He said, when we experience
Speaker 5: that fire, the feeling of helplessness that really nothing could
Speaker 5: be done, it drove us to make a working solution.
Speaker 5: We've essentially returned to the community we were raised in
Speaker 5: to try and give it back.
Speaker 6: The camera use or the system.
Speaker 5: Uses thermal cameras to sense heat and activate sprinklers, but
Speaker 5: only when needed. They spray about thirty five gallons of
Speaker 5: water permanent per zone. That efficiency doesn't put too much
Speaker 5: strain on municipal water systems who are trying to fight
Speaker 5: fires other places. We saw what happened in California. They
Speaker 5: just everybody hit it at the same time and they
Speaker 5: just didn't have any water. So they're trying to make
Speaker 5: sure they're not creating an undew burden. I love that
Speaker 5: The division chief Matthew Benedict with Red, White, and Blue
Speaker 5: Fire Protection District said, we have to be smart with
Speaker 5: every drop of water. A system like this that uses
Speaker 5: about thirty five gallons a minute, that's a low drag
Speaker 5: on the municipal system and it can make a real difference.
Speaker 5: Unlike traditional sprinkler systems that are on top of houses
Speaker 5: for wildfire defense, defense delivered setup is designed to withstand
Speaker 5: Colorado's high altitude climate. It automatically drains itself to prevent
Speaker 5: freeze damage and can operate year round.
Speaker 6: This is so cool, so so cool. And here's the thing.
Speaker 5: You know, I realized that homes are full of all
Speaker 5: kinds of family things and heirlooms that can't be replaced.
Speaker 5: But I'm not sure I would want my home to
Speaker 5: survive if everything else around it burned down. I know
Speaker 5: that sounds crazy, but I also don't live there full time.
Speaker 5: If I had a mountain house, it would not be
Speaker 5: my primary home, so it wouldn't have all of my
Speaker 5: you know, super special valuables in it. So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just love stuff like this, and I'm interested to
Speaker 5: see how homeowner's insurance is affected by this because there
Speaker 5: is a lot of trouble in the sort of urban
Speaker 5: rural interface areas in the actual wildlife areas and wilder
Speaker 5: areas of Colorado for homeowners being able to get reasonably
Speaker 5: priced homeowners insurance, and a lot of the homeowners that
Speaker 5: I have known who lived in the mountains or in
Speaker 5: the foothills spend an awful lot of their time just
Speaker 5: doing wildfire mitigation, chopping down trees, making sure brush was managed,
Speaker 5: you know, things of that nature. I think this just
Speaker 5: sounds like a game changer. That's just that's really really good,
Speaker 5: and it looks like it can be completely retrofitted. One
Speaker 5: of the problems with sprinkler systems overall internally in your house.
Speaker 5: We have friends who suffered a horrific tragedy their home
Speaker 5: burned down and they lost their daughter into granddaughters in
Speaker 5: the fire. And they're big advocates for sprinkler systems inside homes,
Speaker 5: which is great, that's the gold standard for fire suppression
Speaker 5: in a home, but it's not reasonable if you've already
Speaker 5: built your home, it's hard to go back and retrofit.
Speaker 5: This looks like they can just slap it on the
Speaker 5: outside and call a day. I love that they saw
Speaker 5: a problem the experience to need and now they're solving it.
Speaker 5: I bet they make a billion dollars and I support
Speaker 5: them one hundred percent in their endeavors. Well done, young men,
Speaker 5: Well done. All right, when we get back, we have
Speaker 5: several things on the blog. I want to follow up
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 6: On the No Kings.
Speaker 5: I wasn't the only one to notice who actually went
Speaker 5: to the No Kings rallies around the country.
Speaker 6: I was right in my assessment, by the way.
Speaker 5: But I also want to talk about a story I
Speaker 5: had yesterday. But I think it's so cool that I
Speaker 5: want to talk about it in the middle of the show.
Speaker 5: When you guys are supposed to be paying attention, do
Speaker 5: you realize that there is a strong bit of evidence
Speaker 5: that guys, especially we can watch you walk and know
Speaker 5: if you can fight.
Speaker 6: I'll explain after this.
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Speaker 6: Keeping a sad thing well FOOTBALLCA.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the second hour of the show. And because
Speaker 5: the theme until the election is pay attention to school board.
Speaker 6: Races, we continue with that.
Speaker 5: Only we're jumping over to Jefferson County, where one formerly
Speaker 5: endorsed by the teachers' union candidate has lost that endorsement
Speaker 5: in part because of the very delicate work of an
Speaker 5: organization called jeff Co Kids First and joining me now
Speaker 5: from that organization, Lindsay, Dadco, Hi, Lindsay, Hey Manby, I
Speaker 5: corrected the information that you sent me. My blog is
Speaker 5: a disaster today, just misspelling all over the place. It's
Speaker 5: been a nightmare just getting it up and running. And
Speaker 5: I have no one to blame about myself.
Speaker 6: But thank you. Welcome back to Yeah, welcome back to
Speaker 6: the show. First of all, thank you so much. Well,
Speaker 6: let's talk about the.
Speaker 5: Jeffco school board race, but only in the context of
Speaker 5: your organization, which has been really critical of the current
Speaker 5: superintendent for a lot of very very good reasons. I
Speaker 5: might add, you have you came into possession of some
Speaker 5: information about one of the candidates running for Jefferson County
Speaker 5: school Board who had been endorsed by the union, and
Speaker 5: I'd like you to I don't want to, I just
Speaker 5: want to have you lay out what happened and what
Speaker 5: has happened since then.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, we heard directly from contacts of more than
Speaker 11: one victim of this school board candidate named Michael Yoakam,
Speaker 11: and we became very concerned knowing how direct these these
Speaker 11: contacts were. We actually listened to our recording at.
Speaker 3: A board forum.
Speaker 11: Where he admitted to a sexual offense as a juvenile
Speaker 11: and a deferred adjudication, which means that someone is found
Speaker 11: guilty or pleased guilty as long.
Speaker 3: As they and as long as they meet certain.
Speaker 11: Rehabilitative steps, their actual sentences deferred for a few years,
Speaker 11: and it can be dismissed and those records can be filed.
Speaker 11: And so that is what occurred here. There's actually Colorado
Speaker 11: state law that provides avenues for records to be unsealed
Speaker 11: when someone seeks public office, and we began a very
Speaker 11: direct and careful process to alert the community of what
Speaker 11: the candidate himself admitted to. The circumstances are tragic. The
Speaker 11: facts behind it are extremely serious. This is not a
Speaker 11: Romeo and Juliet case, a term that I've been people
Speaker 11: have been asking about indicating was this an eighteen year
Speaker 11: old and a seventeen year type thing. No, this was
Speaker 11: far more serious. It would potentially present a major conflict
Speaker 11: for him to hold public office, especially in a decision
Speaker 11: making role over over children. And let me just mention too,
Speaker 11: I was notified that a constituent, aware of the circumstances,
Speaker 11: quietly asked him to step.
Speaker 3: Down on September thirtieth, and eight.
Speaker 11: Days after that, we noticed this candidate still intended to
Speaker 11: continue running. We launched a deliberate and careful process, as
Speaker 11: we said, to alert the public, alerted the campaign manager.
Speaker 11: The same constituent did, and we noticed then that JCEA,
Speaker 11: which is the teachers union, withdrew their enforcement of him.
Speaker 11: So they must have also seen the gravity of this situation.
Speaker 5: Well, and what's interesting is they did not endorse him
Speaker 5: until they took a shot at your organization for having
Speaker 5: the temerity to actually point out that this person And
Speaker 5: am I. I don't want to get into the details
Speaker 5: of the case. And I'm assuming you know the details
Speaker 5: of the case. What are these are sexual crimes that
Speaker 5: involved children? Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 3: That is what we're talking about.
Speaker 12: Okay.
Speaker 6: I want to be as clear as I can without
Speaker 6: being too clearly, you know.
Speaker 5: So you're the problem for pointing out that a school
Speaker 5: board candidate has this in his history.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, The first paragraph of their statement said that
Speaker 11: they failed. Basically, it was a procedural error.
Speaker 3: So they were withdrawing. They called it their recommendation, which
Speaker 3: was clearly watering down what this is.
Speaker 11: This was an endorsement and a full funding. We're talking
Speaker 11: potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on their candidates,
Speaker 11: so to call it a recommendation, it was definitely watering
Speaker 11: that down. But the second paragraphs then called those who
Speaker 11: who brought this forward extremists, and so they blamed their
Speaker 11: vetting process rather than the unacceptable risk children. And we
Speaker 11: keep saying, if this makes us a political extremist, just
Speaker 11: sign us up. Mandy Well, I want to.
Speaker 5: Play something for you, Lindsay, and I want to play
Speaker 5: it for the audience as well. This is why school
Speaker 5: boards matter. I just want you guys to listen to
Speaker 5: this sound bite. This is why I'm talking about school
Speaker 5: boards and this kind of nonsense that you're about to
Speaker 5: hear from the Jefferson County Board of Education by Aaron Kensworthy.
Speaker 5: You are going to this is the kind of stuff
Speaker 5: that's happening in school districts all over the area.
Speaker 6: So this is just indicative.
Speaker 5: This was the first board meeting back after the Evergreen
Speaker 5: school shooting, when parents were obviously extremely concerned and looking
Speaker 5: for answers about what the district was going to do
Speaker 5: to ensure the safety of students.
Speaker 12: For one of the gentlemen, I wanted to say, safety
Speaker 12: is actually a privilege. It is not a right, and
Speaker 12: it cannot be guaranteed, which is incredibly hard for any
Speaker 12: parent to say to their child, but it is true
Speaker 12: in the culture and the time that we live in.
Speaker 12: It's not just in schools. It is in movie theaters.
Speaker 12: It's happening at grocery stores and in public parks and
Speaker 12: also in schools.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 12: I wish that I felt that I could walk through
Speaker 12: this world entitled to safety, but I am not. And
Speaker 12: there are people in this world who have never experienced
Speaker 12: a feeling of safety and may not in their lifetime,
Speaker 12: and so to expect that we can guarantee safety for
Speaker 12: ourselves and for our children is an unfortunate untruths. We
Speaker 12: just cannot guarantee it. We can do everything we can
Speaker 12: to support it. That I wanted to say that because
Speaker 12: safety absolutely is a privilege. Feeling safe is a privilege.
Speaker 12: And ultimately I'm going to end with I'm very grateful
Speaker 12: for those folks who showed up at public.
Speaker 6: So safety is a privilege.
Speaker 5: And in saying it like that, Lindsay, she essentially takes
Speaker 5: the onus off with the Jefferson County school Board if
Speaker 5: really working to really do their best to achieve a
Speaker 5: modicum of safety at a high level so kids can
Speaker 5: feel comfortable going to school. Why would kids go to
Speaker 5: school if there's no effort, because well, you know what,
Speaker 5: we can't, we can't and nobody can guarantee safety. She's
Speaker 5: absolutely right about that, And at first I was like, well,
Speaker 5: maybe she's going to say, you know, we can't expect
Speaker 5: one hundred percent to guarantee safe, but then she went
Speaker 5: in there are other people who never expect safety.
Speaker 6: This school board is a clown show.
Speaker 5: And I'm not asking you to to agree or disagree,
Speaker 5: but man, does this school board need to be changed?
Speaker 6: It really really needs to be changed.
Speaker 5: And at least the good news is mister Yoakam has
Speaker 5: lost the endorsement of the Jefferson County Education Association, But
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean that they're not going to continue to
Speaker 5: keep more people like this woman on the school board.
Speaker 5: What was the were you at that meeting? Lindsey.
Speaker 11: You know I was listening. But Mandy, just minutes before
Speaker 11: Evergreen parents who had children running their lives, in addition
Speaker 11: to John Castillo, who's the father of Kendrick Castio, the
Speaker 11: hero who died rushing the shooter at the sent school shooting,
Speaker 11: spoke to the board and poured their hearts out. And
Speaker 11: this was her message as someone on a governing board
Speaker 11: of education.
Speaker 3: And let's just say the quiet part out loud. What
Speaker 3: she's doing here is equating.
Speaker 8: Safety and DI.
Speaker 3: She's saying that safety is an equitable an equitable issue,
Speaker 3: and that is a catastrophic view. These two terms collide
Speaker 3: so catastrophically. But we know that this is the case
Speaker 3: in jeffco because Evergreen High School was deprioritized and didn't
Speaker 3: have an FRO assigned to them. And so she's basically
Speaker 3: just reiterating what we've seen in jeff COO with the
Speaker 3: placement of SROs, and we can't have children safety as
Speaker 3: an equitable issue.
Speaker 5: Well, I need to say the We played the audio,
Speaker 5: but you guys didn't hear it because it was only
Speaker 5: in one channel and it didn't go out on the radio.
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you the audio in this audio
Speaker 5: the school board member said that safety is a privilege,
Speaker 5: not a right, that the school district cannot ensure the
Speaker 5: safety of every student, which is true, but then she
Speaker 5: went on to kind of excuse it as there are
Speaker 5: people in this world do never feel safe, and applying
Speaker 5: somehow that it's ridiculous for white people to expect to
Speaker 5: be safe when there are people who are not in
Speaker 5: their same situation who are safe. Ever, it's just the dumbest,
Speaker 5: stupidest line of claptrap I've ever heard.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and three TV news stations picked this up.
Speaker 11: It just went wild amongst community members. Her most important duty,
Speaker 11: it's a very unique duty of care, is to assume
Speaker 11: the responsibility in schools, you assume the responsibility of the
Speaker 11: parent for a child safety. It's called in loco parentis
Speaker 11: She mentioned grocery stores and movie theaters. Is not the
Speaker 11: same as institutions that watch over our children safety for thirty.
Speaker 3: Hours a week, say jeff Coe School's.
Speaker 11: Board member, it's unacceptable.
Speaker 5: Amen to that, Lindsay, I appreciate everything that you guys
Speaker 5: have done at jeff Co Kids first, and I've already
Speaker 5: told my listeners that in my if I were in
Speaker 5: Jefferson County. I would vote for Deneen at Shaveria, I
Speaker 5: would vote for Samuel Myrat, and I would vote for
Speaker 5: Gloria Terry Gascone for the school board and hopefully inject
Speaker 5: some common sense. I think that the superintendent needs to
Speaker 5: be replaced immediately because Jeff Coe's schools used to be
Speaker 5: a powerhouse and they're still good. They're still good, but
Speaker 5: if you look at what Cherry Creek is allowed to happen,
Speaker 5: you don't want that to happen to Jeff co Right,
Speaker 5: So those are my opinions, Lindsay, And I'm not going
Speaker 5: to ask you to say anything because I know your
Speaker 5: organization does not get involved in politics. You merely inform
Speaker 5: people of things that happen, Lindsay, yat Co, I appreciate
Speaker 5: your time today, Thank you so much.
Speaker 8: Any all right, have a good one.
Speaker 5: So important school board races so so so important. Okay, guys,
Speaker 5: got a couple of things. We're done talking about school
Speaker 5: board races for today. Got a couple of things. One
Speaker 5: is that there is a small newspaper in Johnstown. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm assuming it's small because Johnstown's kind of small. I'm
Speaker 5: not hating on you. I'm just saying I'm not telling
Speaker 5: you anything you don't already know. So the Johnstown Breeze
Speaker 5: is run by a uh will a person. You really
Speaker 5: decided to do something stupid.
Speaker 6: And that stupid thing was this.
Speaker 5: When you work for news media organization, as Leslie Banger,
Speaker 5: the publisher of the Johnstown Breeze, does you get all
Speaker 5: kinds of press releases from.
Speaker 6: All kinds of organizations.
Speaker 5: I get all kinds of press releases from left wing
Speaker 5: organizations about things they're doing, and I just ignore them.
Speaker 6: I don't care. And she got one.
Speaker 5: About the Weld County Republican hodown that's coming up and
Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun and there's gonna be music.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a great time.
Speaker 5: And so she was on the mass email and she
Speaker 5: just decided to respond with what time is the flag
Speaker 5: burning and the Mexican whipping. She's the publisher of the
Speaker 5: Johnstown Brees. Now, I'm not gonna call it a boycott,
Speaker 5: but what I am gonna call it is this. If
Speaker 5: you have a business that does business with the john Stownbrees,
Speaker 5: this is who you're giving your money to. And if
Speaker 5: you own a business and you're doing business with the Johnstownbrees,
Speaker 5: and you are listening to this show because ideologically you
Speaker 5: and I align. That's who You're giving your money to,
Speaker 5: someone who thinks. By the way, the chair of the
Speaker 5: Weld County GOP Hunter Rivera, didn't appreciate the Mexican whipping comment.
Speaker 6: It's just absurd, just absolutely absurd.
Speaker 5: And I'm tired of acting like you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to be I'm not going to urge people
Speaker 5: to not do business. No, I'm urging you not to do.
Speaker 6: Business with them. I'm urging you to call it.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine they have tons and tons of subscribers,
Speaker 5: but if you're a subscriber, cancel your subscription and.
Speaker 6: Tell them why.
Speaker 5: There can't be that many lefties to support this kind
Speaker 5: of rag in Johnstown. I mean, I'm sure there are,
Speaker 5: but I'm tired of just giving people money that not
Speaker 5: only disagree with me. I don't mind giving money to
Speaker 5: people who disagree with me. I shop at Costco. Costco
Speaker 5: is owned by.
Speaker 6: A bunch of progressives in Washington State.
Speaker 5: I don't care. You know why, because they're not messing
Speaker 5: with me. They're not being rude, they're not sending mess
Speaker 5: to emails they're not doing any of that.
Speaker 6: They're just giving me great prices on products that.
Speaker 12: I really like.
Speaker 5: But when you have somebody like this, when you have
Speaker 5: the vile CEO of Penzi's Spices, and if you are
Speaker 5: a cook like I am and you love Penzy's, please
Speaker 5: never give them another dollar of your money. The CEO
Speaker 5: is the most hateful man I have ever encountered against Republicans.
Speaker 5: He hates every Republican and he's open about it all
Speaker 5: the time. He openly hates you. So stop giving them
Speaker 5: your money. I mean, there's some ways you can't get
Speaker 5: around it, right, there's some monopoly type situations. Really well, okay,
Speaker 5: I've got to do that anyway. Don't do business with
Speaker 5: Johnstown Breeze, just just don't. The only way you can
Speaker 5: prevent them from spreading that kind of nonsense and idiocy
Speaker 5: is to not give them any money to do it
Speaker 5: and just stop it. Oh, I have bad news. I
Speaker 5: want to get this story in before the break because
Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about it very long. It
Speaker 5: wasn't that long ago that the long time abortionist in
Speaker 5: Boulder died at the age of eighty seven after taking
Speaker 5: the lives of some I don't know, forty thousand babies.
Speaker 6: And the clinics shut down.
Speaker 5: And it was one of the clinics that allowed women,
Speaker 5: up until the moment they were, you know, ready to deliver,
Speaker 5: to come in and ask for an abortion and get
Speaker 5: it for no reason.
Speaker 6: In interviews, the.
Speaker 5: Doctor was forced to admit that, yes, they did do
Speaker 5: a lot of late term abortions for women that found
Speaker 5: out that their baby had some kind of fatal situation
Speaker 5: that was only going to lead to suffering if they
Speaker 5: were born, and they decided that that was more humane
Speaker 5: than allowing a baby to be born that was going
Speaker 5: to die for sure. I get it, hard, horrible choice.
Speaker 5: I don't think i'd make it. But that's on them,
Speaker 5: and that's their path they have to walk. But he
Speaker 5: was forced to admit the like half of his patients
Speaker 5: were just women who went through that long of a
Speaker 5: pregnancy and then decided they didn't want to be pregnant.
Speaker 5: I find this incredibly I can't even imagine what it
Speaker 5: must be like to do that job and still go
Speaker 5: home and look at yourself in the mirror and not
Speaker 5: feel like a monster.
Speaker 6: I mean, I could kind of understand it.
Speaker 5: If you're helping women there finding out their babies have
Speaker 5: some kind of horrible fetal anomaly that's going to make
Speaker 5: them suffer when they're like, I get, I kind of
Speaker 5: could maybe understand that the guy's a baby is thirty
Speaker 5: four weeks. Thirty four weeks. That is a fully formed baby.
Speaker 5: They may have lungs that aren't fully formed, that need
Speaker 5: a little help, maybe they need to be in the
Speaker 5: nikey for a little while, but.
Speaker 6: That is a fully formed human being.
Speaker 5: All those fingers, all the toes, everything is there, and
Speaker 5: they're injecting it with poison and cutting it into pieces
Speaker 5: and removing those pieces. Those little hands, those little feet,
Speaker 5: those little chunky legs. I don't understand. There are things.
Speaker 5: There are jobs that suck in this world, right There
Speaker 5: are jobs that I just think to myself, I wonder
Speaker 5: what kind of person actually enjoys that job. I'm sure
Speaker 5: there's a lot of people who do that job, but
Speaker 5: I think there's people like who enjoys being an IRS
Speaker 5: auditor who signs up for that. Hey, I want to
Speaker 5: be the guy who works for the taxman to go
Speaker 5: after people, to try I find where they cheated. Maybe
Speaker 5: your sense of righteousness can gird you through that process.
Speaker 5: But this is a job. I don't understand how you
Speaker 5: can do it. I really don't. I just I don't understand.
Speaker 5: And now it's back up and running the new Colorado
Speaker 5: abortion business. I guess it's an improvement. I should correct myself.
Speaker 5: They're only gonna kill babies up to thirty four weeks
Speaker 5: for any reason. Yeah, you just have to suffer through
Speaker 5: the last six weeks. If you can't decide before that
Speaker 5: that you don't want the little human being that you have,
Speaker 5: it's just gross. It's just gross, really really really gross.
Speaker 5: From the Common Spirit Health text line, you can text
Speaker 5: us at five six six nine zero. Mandy, can you
Speaker 5: say the names again you recommended for the jeff Co
Speaker 5: school Board?
Speaker 6: I absolutely can.
Speaker 5: That would be Gascon, Terry Gascon, Samuel Myron, and Denen
Speaker 5: at Shaveria. Nina Cheveria is also endorsed by the Democrats.
Speaker 5: But she's the best thing going in that race, So yeah, yeah, Mandy.
Speaker 5: I also drop Penzi's, which I love. Savory Spice is
Speaker 5: an excellent alternative. I am now I dedicated Savory spice shopper.
Speaker 5: They really do have the most amazing cinnamon. If you're
Speaker 5: going into your holiday baking let me give you two suggestions,
Speaker 5: and these are splurges. Okay, go get some of the
Speaker 5: Indonesian cinnamon that they have at Savory Spice. It is Oh,
Speaker 5: it is like a chef's kiss.
Speaker 9: It is so good.
Speaker 5: And then go ahead.
Speaker 6: It's Indonesia. Oh no, is it Vietnamese? I think it
Speaker 6: might be. I think they have both.
Speaker 5: Go get some fancy.
Speaker 6: Cinnamon, and then if you email me, I'll send you the.
Speaker 5: Cocoa that I order. You have to special order it.
Speaker 5: It is gobsmackingly expensive, so expensive, I'm not gonna lie's
Speaker 5: like thirty nine dollars for two pounds, but for holiday
Speaker 5: it will change your life. Mandy the Lineman Leader is
Speaker 5: every bit is bad. We've had a local paper for
Speaker 5: close to one hundred years, and now the current owners
Speaker 5: taking it upon themselves to be political. Needless to say,
Speaker 5: they're going out of business first of the year, Mandy
Speaker 5: whipping Mexicans. What if I'm white and that's my thing?
Speaker 5: What time then? Lol? Mandy. We canceled our subscription a
Speaker 5: while back because of the obvious bias. Yep, yep, Mandy.
Speaker 5: All of these so called legitimate reasons for abortion, why
Speaker 5: it must always be allowed?
Speaker 6: Almost never apply.
Speaker 5: It is done for convenience, you guys. I personally know
Speaker 5: someone who, at like the four month mark, found out
Speaker 5: that her child had a significant defect that would lead
Speaker 5: to a tremendous amount of suffering, and she chose to
Speaker 5: terminate the pregnancy. And she was absolutely gut wrenchingly heartbroken
Speaker 5: about the entire thing destroyed. I don't know if I
Speaker 5: if I, if I would, I don't know. I cannot
Speaker 5: put myself in that person's shoes because I've never had
Speaker 5: to make that decision. I probably A'm just gonna say
Speaker 5: it would ride the whole thing out and let God
Speaker 5: decide when it was over. Mandy, what CEO did you
Speaker 5: say hated Republicans just because they were Republicans. That would
Speaker 5: be Bill Penzie of Penzi's Spices. You can google Bill
Speaker 5: Penzy Republicans and you will see it all. He is
Speaker 5: the nastiest bit of work, the nastiest bit of work.
Speaker 5: And I will never darken the doorsteps of any of
Speaker 5: his stores ever again, because if he doesn't like me,
Speaker 5: then he certainly won't like my money. Mandy, trying to
Speaker 5: find the info on the Emerald River Cruise, Please advise
Speaker 5: one more time where to find it. Thank you always,
Speaker 5: mandyconnelltrip dot com. Did you hear we're going to Europe?
Speaker 5: Did you hear next October?
Speaker 8: Where are you going to Europe?
Speaker 5: We're gonna fly into Switzerland before we hop on the
Speaker 5: Emerald Dawn to sail on the Rhine River through Germany,
Speaker 5: stopping in some parts of France as we end up
Speaker 5: in Amsterdam. It's the Mandy Connell Adventure. It's already over
Speaker 5: half sold. If you want to go, you better go today.
Speaker 5: Mandyconnell Trip dot com. Mandy, what a ridiculous publisher as
Speaker 5: there is a decent Hispanic population in Johnstown, Talking of course,
Speaker 5: about the hateful editor of the Johnstown Breeze. It responded
Speaker 5: to a announcement about a gop ho down with when
Speaker 5: are the Mexican whippings?
Speaker 6: And something else? Mandy, Fyi, I vote for most.
Speaker 5: Mill levies for schools, but why isn't taxing people without
Speaker 5: kids to pay for school? Socialism? It one hundred percent?
Speaker 3: Is it is.
Speaker 6: There's no two ways about it.
Speaker 5: But many many, many many moons ago, we decided as
Speaker 5: a society that an educated population is a necessity to
Speaker 5: make our economic fortunes rise.
Speaker 6: That is that is what we decided, So yes we are.
Speaker 5: Mandy Penzi's is based in Wisconsin. That sucks because I
Speaker 5: love Wisconsin. Bill Penzy puts anti Republican rhetoric on the
Speaker 5: packaging of his products.
Speaker 6: That's how horrible he is. Yes, indeed, and if.
Speaker 5: Anybody knows the owners of Savory Spice, let them know.
Speaker 5: I've been dying to do commercials for them for so
Speaker 5: so many years, so so many years. Here's a text
Speaker 5: responding to the conversation we had about the late term
Speaker 5: abortion clinic that's reopening in Boulder. It says, my wife
Speaker 5: and I made the same decision as your friend and
Speaker 5: aborting our baby as being unviable.
Speaker 6: And a threat to her health. Worst day of our life.
Speaker 5: Best decision for my wife's physical health, although it took
Speaker 5: a toll on her mental health. I try not to
Speaker 5: let her know. I think about this with tears in
Speaker 5: my eyes several times a week. Even fourteen years later,
Speaker 5: I have tears right now. I hope our child and
Speaker 5: God can forgive our decision. I told my dad I
Speaker 5: feel like a murderer. And you know, textor I appreciate
Speaker 5: you sending that in because it's very easy to demonize
Speaker 5: women who have abortions and demonize people who decide to
Speaker 5: make that choice. But it's there are people that make
Speaker 5: that choice, and like this gentleman, have to live with it.
Speaker 5: And that's the penance, right, that's the penance for doing
Speaker 5: what you thought was the right thing to save your wife.
Speaker 6: And my heart goes out to you.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I can't even imagine being in that situation.
Speaker 5: I count my blessings and I've talked about this before.
Speaker 5: I'm a big believer in gratitude. I think that no
Speaker 5: matter what your situation in life is. I've always said
Speaker 5: this about myself. When someone asked me, like, what's a
Speaker 5: good quality You're not a job interview, what do you
Speaker 5: think you have a good quality about yourself? I always
Speaker 5: say I am situationally happy. And what I mean by
Speaker 5: that is, whatever the situation is, for the most part,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna find some reason to be happy. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: find some reason to find satisfaction in whatever is going on.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's kind of hard. Sometimes stuff just sucks right,
Speaker 5: and you really can't do that. But now I realize
Speaker 5: that's just gratitude in action. And one of the things
Speaker 5: I'm grateful to grateful about is that I never had
Speaker 5: to make these hard choices and never had that situation.
Speaker 5: My daughter had a dramatic birth, but that was it.
Speaker 5: No text or I did not say I moved the
Speaker 5: blog to Mandy connalltrip dot com. But you can try
Speaker 5: and find the blog at Mandy connalltrip dot com and
Speaker 5: you may end up going to Europe with us. You
Speaker 5: don't know, you don't know, you have no idea. Could
Speaker 5: have happened, could absolutely happen. I want to play oopscrap,
Speaker 5: got the wrong blog open. I was looking for something
Speaker 5: for someone. I want to play a quick Oh, I
Speaker 5: don't know if I can. Let's play that guy's video
Speaker 5: A Rod. So I said this ad and I said,
Speaker 5: A Rod, I need you to beep out a couple
Speaker 5: words for me. And I saw this yesterday and now, Ayrod,
Speaker 5: you've watched the video.
Speaker 6: Do you think this guy is real or do you
Speaker 6: think he's somebody putting on a video? I mean, do
Speaker 6: you think that I kind of think he's real. I
Speaker 6: don't know that I think he's real because it's so outrageous.
Speaker 5: So this guy is on TikTok talking about his food
Speaker 5: stamps being cut and initially you're like, Wow, that's Tara.
Speaker 5: Listen to this clip of this guy, and just I'm
Speaker 5: gonna see if it strikes you the same way it
Speaker 5: struck me.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Hey, Roud Trump has cut my food stamps
Speaker 4: from twenty eight hundred dollars down to three hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty dollars.
Speaker 10: Now what am I supposed to do? Huh?
Speaker 4: So I literally just got this piece of mail today
Speaker 4: saying that due to new policy changes from the Trump administration,
Speaker 4: all this all this whatever that, all these cuts and
Speaker 4: whatever he's doing over there. Now now they're telling me
Speaker 4: I have to go work.
Speaker 10: Now I have to go do all this.
Speaker 4: Well, I literally got five kids, Okay, I'm trying to
Speaker 4: sit here and spend time with them.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to go work, you know, fifty sixty
Speaker 5: hours a.
Speaker 10: Week so I can pay bills. I'm I just really
Speaker 10: don't understand.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I've voted for him this last election because I thought, well,
Speaker 4: he had good was going on. But now all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, all this policy stuff's coming out, and now
Speaker 4: he's making all these cuts and now now he doesn't
Speaker 4: want to help the less fortunate people no more. I'm
Speaker 4: done with that guy. I'm doing with that guy.
Speaker 10: I'm not.
Speaker 4: If literally, if he gets voted in again, I'm leaving
Speaker 4: this country because I'm not dealing with this no more.
Speaker 10: This is all. This is all.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, guys.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't imagine that this guy thought and
Speaker 5: the part of me that's saying this can't be real
Speaker 5: is also going But Mandy can.
Speaker 6: It absolutely can.
Speaker 5: When he said, I got five kids, it's not like
Speaker 5: I want to go to be going to work to
Speaker 5: pay bills? Oh ay, Rod, how much do you love
Speaker 5: getting up every day to go work and pay bills?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 5: How much you love it? Do you love getting up
Speaker 5: every single day to go to work to pay bills?
Speaker 1: Heay?
Speaker 3: Work?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: This guy doesn't want to be bothered.
Speaker 9: So it's.
Speaker 5: Are you looking for sympathy there?
Speaker 6: I just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's telling the truth, but I
Speaker 5: do know that Senator Amy Klobashar, he of the Nasty reputation,
Speaker 5: decided to make a point about the Democratics shut down
Speaker 5: on the government over subsidies for people who get their
Speaker 5: Obamacare premiums paid for them. That's why they've shut down
Speaker 5: the government and so they can give health care to
Speaker 5: illegal immigrants. This is the example that Senator Amy clovishar
Speaker 5: shares on x dot com. Now see if you are
Speaker 5: swayed or it all moved by this? She writes about
Speaker 5: a news story. Early retirees like Bill and Shelley will
Speaker 5: see their health insurance premiums increase nearly three hundred percent
Speaker 5: from four hundred and forty two to seventeen hundred dollars
Speaker 5: per month if Congressional Republicans refuse to extend the enhanced
Speaker 5: tax credits. That's an extra fifteen k a year of
Speaker 5: families can't afford. How about this, Bill and Shelley, take
Speaker 5: your happy asses back to work. Why don't we start
Speaker 5: with that. She's really showing me early retirees, and I
Speaker 5: am supposed to be out here in the workforce paying
Speaker 5: taxes to the federal government. So they can turn around
Speaker 5: and Bill and Shelley can go to the beach again
Speaker 5: in their early retired years because I'm freaking paying for
Speaker 5: their healthcare. They think this is a moving example. This
Speaker 5: is gonna move the needle all of a sudden, people
Speaker 5: do well, God, we can't let Bill and Shelley down.
Speaker 6: Holy cow, let me.
Speaker 5: Get a second job so they don't have to go
Speaker 5: back to work.
Speaker 6: James, Louise, Bill and Shelley, They're gonna be it hard.
Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: I begrudge you no one in early retirement. I wish
Speaker 5: we could all retire early. But I also don't want
Speaker 5: to pay for someone else's early retirement. If you can't
Speaker 5: afford the full freight of your health care costs, you
Speaker 5: can't afford to retire. How about that, Bill and Shelley.
Speaker 5: How about that dude who doesn't want to go get
Speaker 5: a job and work fifty to sixty hours a week.
Speaker 5: How about that? Let's start with that anyway, Mandy, this
Speaker 5: man sounds like he needs to get with the program.
Speaker 5: I wish I could stay on with my two kids.
Speaker 5: I work sixty to seventy hours a week to keep
Speaker 5: food on the table. What a geek that boy? As
Speaker 5: he needs to snippet or practice abstinence. Agreed to the
Speaker 5: textures that are you trying to raise my blood pressure?
Speaker 5: I am not, and I'm sorry. Also, this is the
Speaker 5: other kicker text her you caught it too. Also, if
Speaker 5: he can't pay bills, how does he leave the USA?
Speaker 6: Exactly?
Speaker 5: Mandy slightly off topic speaking about Johnstown reminded me of
Speaker 5: what a family friend told me. Doctor Jeff of the
Speaker 5: TV show has a clinic and conifer. In the employee
Speaker 5: only areas, he wears a shirt that reads F Trump.
Speaker 5: He harasses his employees in a political manner. She resigned
Speaker 5: because of his behavior. You know, here's the thing, Like
Speaker 5: I said, I if you keep it to yourself and
Speaker 5: I don't work for you, I don't care.
Speaker 6: But as soon as you make it publicly known.
Speaker 5: Because here's the.
Speaker 6: Thing, he thinks that's okay.
Speaker 5: To walk around like this. This Jefferson County Public School
Speaker 5: board member thinks it's okay to tell the parents of
Speaker 5: children who were running away from a shooting at Evergreen
Speaker 5: High School that they just have privilege for expecting their
Speaker 5: kids to be safe at school. This is how they
Speaker 5: think all the time. If that's what they say in public,
Speaker 5: what are they saying in private? We've really seen over
Speaker 5: the last month or so, especially since Charlie Kirk's murder.
Speaker 6: Exactly how uh well, exactly what many on the left
Speaker 6: think of people on the right.
Speaker 5: That they would be fine with us dying, they'd be
Speaker 5: fine with somebody assassinating President Trump.
Speaker 6: They'd be fine with you know, people on the right
Speaker 6: being murdered. I guess. I mean, it's like a thing now,
Speaker 6: but they're very casual about it.
Speaker 5: It's not nobody's whispering, you know, nobody's like I have
Speaker 5: these feelings that I know that they're.
Speaker 6: Wrong and shameful. No, they're all in, let's do it.
Speaker 5: So I'm at the point now where somebody shows me
Speaker 5: who they are in a way that makes me feel unwelcome,
Speaker 5: I will take them at their word. I will absolute
Speaker 5: take them at their word and never visit their business again.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing.
Speaker 6: It's not even a boycott.
Speaker 5: It's not like I'm specifically like, oh, I'm just not
Speaker 5: giving my money to people who hate me. It's one
Speaker 5: of the reasons that I have no desire to travel
Speaker 5: in the Middle East outside of Israel. I cannot wait
Speaker 5: to go back to Israel again. Cannot wait. But do
Speaker 5: I want to go to Egypt or Saudi Arabia where
Speaker 5: women are second class citizens. No, I'm not giving you
Speaker 5: my money. No, Mandy, I told my kids since Sora
Speaker 5: Too came out, you can literally not trust videos online exactly.
Speaker 5: I agree. I absolutely agree that we are in a
Speaker 5: very perilous situation where it is rapidly becoming darn near
Speaker 5: impossible impossible to tell the difference. So be careful with
Speaker 5: what you're consuming, be careful with what you are sharing.
Speaker 5: Do not end up making yourself look silly something that
Speaker 5: turns out to be AI. The easiest way to begin
Speaker 5: the process of verifying if something is AI or not
Speaker 5: is simply go to Google and put in the you know,
Speaker 5: Google box, whatever is the video circulating of Donald Trump
Speaker 5: flying an aircraft pooping on people in a protest reel
Speaker 5: or AI.
Speaker 6: Start with that. That should be your starting position.
Speaker 5: And if you don't get a clear, clear, clear answer
Speaker 5: one way or the other, just don't share it. Don't
Speaker 5: get sucked in, don't make yourself look stupid. I have
Speaker 5: a great column on the blog today and I want
Speaker 5: to get into it on the other side of the break,
Speaker 5: but it's kind of long, and it's by Seth Dylan.
Speaker 5: He's the editor of The Babylon B, which the Babylon B.
Speaker 5: If you don't know what the Babylon B is, you
Speaker 5: are missing out. The Babylon B is a satire site
Speaker 5: and it is so wildly funny. It is what the
Speaker 5: Onion used to be before the Onion lost its sense
Speaker 5: of humor and just started trying to score cheap political points.
Speaker 5: And Seth Dylan has a column in the Free Press
Speaker 5: and it is paywalden. I'm sorry about that. There was
Speaker 5: no way for me to get around the paywall, but
Speaker 5: I am going to share part of it with you
Speaker 5: because it is specifically about the notion that there should
Speaker 5: be no enemies on the right. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: the title of the column is the foolishness of no
Speaker 5: Enemies to the Right, and it's about whether or not
Speaker 5: Republicans need to be the ones standing up against the
Speaker 5: fringe elements of the right who are now trying to
Speaker 5: become mainstream in the party. And I got to tell you, guys,
Speaker 5: I have never seen a more correct sentiment in my
Speaker 5: entire life. It makes a great straight line between the
Speaker 5: Democrats refusing to stand up to the fringiest parts of
Speaker 5: their party to where they are now, where they have
Speaker 5: been completely taken over by the fringiest parts of the party. So, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a fantastic column. We'll get into it next in
Speaker 5: the next hour. We have uh oh, we have at
Speaker 5: two thirty. You're gonna want to stick around for this.
Speaker 5: If you need if you're shopping the market for health insurance,
Speaker 5: if you're a small business trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: to provide your employees some kind of healthcare without breaking
Speaker 5: the bank, you're going to want to hear my interview
Speaker 5: at two thirty because not only are we talking direct
Speaker 5: primary care, we're also talking direct medical specialty care. What
Speaker 5: is that, Oh, you need a knee replacement. You want
Speaker 5: to pay cash. Here's how much it's gonna cost right
Speaker 5: on the website.
Speaker 6: It's so cool. We'll be right back with all that.
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Speaker 5: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to.
Speaker 6: The third hour of the show.
Speaker 5: I'm your host for the next one hour, Mandy Connell,
Speaker 5: joined by Anthony Rodrigue. Today we will be taking you
Speaker 5: right up until three pm when ka Wa Sports will
Speaker 5: take over. Now, coming up a little bit later, we're
Speaker 5: going to have a conversation about what injecting free market
Speaker 5: principles into the delivery of healthcare really looks like and
Speaker 5: if you're in the market for healthcare health insurance. This
Speaker 5: is not health insurance. It is healthcare. We'll explain it
Speaker 5: to thirty in the meantime, though, I want to share
Speaker 5: some of this column by Seth Dylan at the Babylon
Speaker 5: B because it is it is. Hang on one second,
Speaker 5: I forgot to log in on this thing. This is paywald,
Speaker 5: and I apologize for that, but I couldn't get around it,
Speaker 5: and it is what it is. So I grabbed a
Speaker 5: snippet of it that you should already subscribe to the
Speaker 5: Free Press anyway, just throwing that out there. It's really good.
Speaker 5: There we go, this is inconvenient. Oh fantast Oh there
Speaker 5: we go. Okay, it just popped up. But Seth Dylan
Speaker 5: is the editor of the Babylon B and the Babylon
Speaker 5: B does satire better than anybody else's doing satire right now,
Speaker 5: and he wrote a column that I got to tell you,
Speaker 5: I completely agree with, completely agree with. As much as
Speaker 5: I want to see unity in the Republican Party on
Speaker 5: the right whatever, there are things happening in the Republican
Speaker 5: Party that need to be called out. And a perfect
Speaker 5: example is the recent story about the Young Republicans in
Speaker 5: New York State who had a chat thread full of
Speaker 5: gallows and Nazi humor that was a little too over
Speaker 5: the top for my taste, and immediately all of these
Speaker 5: Republicans disabout it like, oh, that's absolutely terrible, we cannot
Speaker 5: have that. They pulled the charter of the Young Republicans
Speaker 5: Club in New York because of it. So I want
Speaker 5: to share some of what Seth Dylan has to share.
Speaker 5: Bad ideas are like cancer. If you don't deal with
Speaker 5: them quickly and decisively, they spread. One way to deal
Speaker 5: with bad ideas is to refute them, as C. S.
Speaker 5: Lewis said, good philosophy must exist if for no other reason,
Speaker 5: because bad philosophy needs to be answered.
Speaker 6: Another is to satirize them.
Speaker 5: Ridiculing bad ideas stops them from being taken seriously. This
Speaker 5: is the mission of the Babylon b the conservative fake
Speaker 5: news publication I've been gradually running into the ground since
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. We mock anyone and anything that deserves it,
Speaker 5: not just because it's funny, because it's imperative. Bad ideas
Speaker 5: taken seriously can have catastrophic consequences. I'm a conservative, and
Speaker 5: it's fair to say that a lot of bad ideas
Speaker 5: we make fun of at the Babylon b are progressive ones. Recently, however,
Speaker 5: I've come under fire from fellow conservatives for pointing out
Speaker 5: what should be obvious. They're bad ideas on the right too.
Speaker 5: Never scrutinize your friend, as I'm told, focus on the enemy.
Speaker 5: They're the ones promoting abortion on demand, gender transition for miners,
Speaker 5: open borders, censorship, DEI, and a whole host of other
Speaker 5: absurdities that no one from a couple of decades ago
Speaker 5: would have believed could have ever become mainstream. I'm steadfastly
Speaker 5: opposed to those ideas. I've spent years and millions of
Speaker 5: dollars fighting them in both the courts and the culture.
Speaker 5: But what if those aren't the only bad ideas? If
Speaker 5: bad ideas spread like cancer, shouldn't we check for them everywhere.
Speaker 5: I recently visited an imaging center for a diagnostic CT scan.
Speaker 5: I'm glad the technician wasn't only interested in scanning the
Speaker 5: left side of my body.
Speaker 6: By insisting on no enemies to.
Speaker 5: The right, the right is repeating the left's biggest mistake.
Speaker 5: The phrase comes from the French Revolution, when the meeting
Speaker 5: was pad denim a ghosh, no enemies to the left.
Speaker 5: It was meant to establish strength through unity, but it
Speaker 5: quickly turned into an excuse to avoid self scrutiny out
Speaker 5: of confronting one's own radicals by insisting the only real
Speaker 5: danger was on the other side. This is how the
Speaker 5: American left has operated in recent years. Looking at all
Speaker 5: the ground the Left is lost lately, it's clear it
Speaker 5: was a huge mistake. Instead of taking on their own
Speaker 5: radicals and self correcting, the left ignored uncomfortable questions and
Speaker 5: let its most extreme factions set the agenda. The result
Speaker 5: was a self defeating overreach, with policies pushed into the
Speaker 5: mainstream that ordinary Americans couldn't stomach. And so despite all
Speaker 5: the cultural power they acquired, the Left is now managing
Speaker 5: a movement in decline. Ridiculous ideas like pregnant men and
Speaker 5: drag shows for kids were almost impossible to satirize. I
Speaker 5: often said the hardest part of our job at the
Speaker 5: Babylon b was coming up with jokes that were more
Speaker 5: absurd than whatever democrats were doing in real life.
Speaker 6: This should serve as a warning to the right.
Speaker 5: Ordinary people have their limits pushed too hard, and you
Speaker 5: start losing people. My argument now is simply this, if
Speaker 5: the right doesn't learn from the left's mistakes, we risk
Speaker 5: suffering the same fate.
Speaker 6: It may already be too late.
Speaker 5: Bad ideas in those pushing them see them to be
Speaker 5: multiple seem to be multiplying by the day. Nick Fuentes,
Speaker 5: a man who glorifies Hitler, has grown his reach and
Speaker 5: influenced dramatically in recent months, finding his way onto mainstream platforms.
Speaker 5: According to Alex Jones, Fuentes is set to appear on
Speaker 5: Tucker Carlston's podcast. Last week, Politico reported on leaked group
Speaker 5: checks that showed young Republican members reveling in open racism,
Speaker 5: anti Semitism, and violent fantasies.
Speaker 6: The right, including JD Vance, have.
Speaker 5: Dismissed the story, arguing that it pales in comparison to
Speaker 5: what leftists have said and done.
Speaker 6: In other words, our friends get a pass.
Speaker 5: The Daily Wires, Mount Walsh has reportedly promised he will
Speaker 5: unite with anyone on the right. Presumably this radically inclusive.
Speaker 5: An inclusive offer extends even to the openly racist and
Speaker 5: anti Semitic gropers who call for the death of his
Speaker 5: own boss, Ben Shapiro. Whenever I criticize the bad ideas
Speaker 5: on our side, anti Semitism, historically illiterate revisionism, baseless conspiracy theories,
Speaker 5: authoritarian impulses. A mob forms to accuse me of treachery
Speaker 5: and betrayal. I'm attacked for punching right, dividing the movement,
Speaker 5: and hurting the cause. What the radical right is demanding
Speaker 5: of conservatives like myself is that we unify with our
Speaker 5: extremists to win. But in what sense are we winning?
Speaker 5: If we're giving up our principles and tolerating evil in
Speaker 5: our own ranks, How does.
Speaker 6: That advance our cause?
Speaker 5: How can it be?
Speaker 6: Do you anything but hurt our cause?
Speaker 5: If unity means refusing to confront evil within our ranks,
Speaker 5: then I don't want it. I don't want to lock
Speaker 5: arms with anyone who thinks bigotry, collectivism, or post constitutional
Speaker 5: tyranny belongs under the banner of conservatism. The slogan knows
Speaker 5: enemies to the right isn't a strategy for defeating the left,
Speaker 5: it's suicide. And then it goes on from there. But
Speaker 5: he's absolutely right. I want to close with this last part.
Speaker 5: Every victory we've earned came through courage and conviction, not
Speaker 5: cruelty or coercion. We're winning because we're right, and because
Speaker 5: our constitutional republic makes it possible to course correct when
Speaker 5: free people stand up and speak out. Conservatism has never
Speaker 5: been about power or tribal victory. It's about conserving what's
Speaker 5: good and true, regardless of what's trending or how much
Speaker 5: it might cost us. The principles that make conservatism worth defending,
Speaker 5: individual liberty, constitutional government, objective truth aren't impediments to victory.
Speaker 6: They're its only foundation.
Speaker 5: Abandoning our principles in pursuit of power is not a
Speaker 5: winning strategy. It's confession that we never really believed in
Speaker 5: them at all.
Speaker 6: Can't tell you how much this spoke to me today.
Speaker 6: A good column you just.
Speaker 5: Read, but when you start thinking about politics instead of editorials.
Speaker 5: We need the votes for radicals on the right to win,
Speaker 5: just as Dems need to court the votes of leftist
Speaker 5: radicals to win. And you have to win to hope
Speaker 5: for any of your lofty ideals to be realized. There's
Speaker 5: a difference between accepting someone's vote and elevating them within
Speaker 5: the party. We're now seeing this in the Democratic Party,
Speaker 5: and I love the fact that South Dylan kind of
Speaker 5: uses them as the example. We now have a situation
Speaker 5: in the Democratic Party where you have a guy running
Speaker 5: for lieutenant or excuse me, attorney General in Virginia who texts,
Speaker 5: not even just text messages, has conversations wishing for the
Speaker 5: death of his colleague's children, and the Democratic Party cannot
Speaker 5: bring itself to condemn such language. That's what happens when
Speaker 5: you let them become elevated in the party.
Speaker 6: There's a big difference there.
Speaker 5: And I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, you
Speaker 5: know what, I don't.
Speaker 6: Really care if Nick fwent Tase is a part of
Speaker 6: the party system.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 5: If he wants to vote Republican, great, If he wants
Speaker 5: to vote for a white supremacist, great, do whatever he
Speaker 5: wants to do. If you need the tiny fraction of
Speaker 5: Americans who are true white supremacists to win an election,
Speaker 5: we're in bad shape. And I would argue that you
Speaker 5: drive more people who may be persuadable, those people who
Speaker 5: feel lost right now, who have no political party, who
Speaker 5: are truly centrist, who probably have some beliefs that lean
Speaker 5: to the left, and probably have some that lean to
Speaker 5: the right. Those people are persuadable when you let a
Speaker 5: white supremacist have a seat at the table, and that
Speaker 5: table is the main table. You now alienate a group
Speaker 5: of persuadable people that could have been a part of
Speaker 5: your coalition. So we have to make choices, and I
Speaker 5: think Seth Dyllan is absolutely right a text or texted
Speaker 5: in I could agree with you, but then we'd both
Speaker 5: be wrong, which is the best way to say this.
Speaker 5: But then they follow it up with Mandy, I'm all
Speaker 5: for unity, except when I could agree with you, but
Speaker 5: then we'd both be wrong. By the way, that's meme
Speaker 5: I collected. I'd love to take credit to finish the thought.
Speaker 5: A unity between Washington and Adams was a pipe dream,
Speaker 5: but they were united in believing in the New Union.
Speaker 5: But you can disagree with someone on policy issues, as
Speaker 5: Washington and Adams did. But we're talking about people on
Speaker 5: the right who are white supremacist, and we're talking about
Speaker 5: people on the hard left that are anarchists. Do you
Speaker 5: see the difference here. You're not talking about two people
Speaker 5: who may generally speaking a line on the bigger issues
Speaker 5: while disagreeing on the finer points. We're talking about people
Speaker 5: who believe vile things. And I don't have any need
Speaker 5: to be associated with them. One of the reasons that
Speaker 5: I'm still a registered independent. I have not changed my
Speaker 5: party affiliation back to Republican. I left the Republican Party
Speaker 5: because I didn't want to be associated with the leadership
Speaker 5: of the Colorado Republican Party.
Speaker 6: And I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting to see what
Speaker 6: happens next.
Speaker 5: You know, Mandy, I've noticed a lot of pro Nazi
Speaker 5: stuff seeping.
Speaker 6: Into the algorithm.
Speaker 5: I always say not interested, but it's strange how it's
Speaker 5: being pushed on the right. Has anybody else had that experience.
Speaker 5: I don't get any kind of pro Nazi crap.
Speaker 6: I just don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know how I keep my algorithm so clean.
Speaker 5: I don't have any the evil, awful, horrible thing. Well,
Speaker 5: if I do, it's because I see it on libs
Speaker 5: of TikTok or someone else. That's the only way I
Speaker 5: see it. I don't have the neo Nazi stuff coming
Speaker 5: at me. So, Mandy, is there any room for us
Speaker 5: to emulate the jazz musician Darryl Davis didn't He set
Speaker 5: a good example of how we sway people from the
Speaker 5: radical edge to come back towards the center. I don't
Speaker 5: know you.
Speaker 6: I don't feel.
Speaker 5: I don't feel any responsibility to try and change someone
Speaker 5: else's mind that I think is terribly terribly wrong unless
Speaker 5: they're in my immediate sphere, you know.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And then again, I don't think I have any friends
Speaker 5: that I would, even for a moment, would consider.
Speaker 6: Themselves white supremacists.
Speaker 5: I just don't.
Speaker 8: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I do not know, Mandy. There is no problem Nazi
Speaker 5: stuff on the right, Yes there is. Yet, yeah, there
Speaker 5: really is, you guys, there really is. And the fact
Speaker 5: that you're like there's nothing over there, you're either willfully
Speaker 5: ignorant or you're not willing to call it out when
Speaker 5: you see it.
Speaker 6: That's kind of the point self Dylan is making. It's
Speaker 6: not like we have to have the most.
Speaker 5: Pure party in the world. I welcome all viewpoints, I
Speaker 5: really really do, I truly do. I want to hear
Speaker 5: everybody's viewpoints from the right. I want to hear what
Speaker 5: they're thinking, But I'm not going to treat all of
Speaker 5: those ideas with the same level of seriousness or respect.
Speaker 5: And I think that should be easy to understand. And
Speaker 5: yet there does seem to be this slight elevation of
Speaker 5: the cuckoo.
Speaker 6: Somebody asks of Candace.
Speaker 5: Owens is on the hard right and she didn't used
Speaker 5: to be, but boy, she is just she is moving
Speaker 5: into that grifter territory that, in my mind undermines everything.
Speaker 6: So you can put her, I would put her on
Speaker 6: the far far right and part of the problem.
Speaker 5: And if Tucker Carlson is gonna have Nick Fuentas on
Speaker 5: his podcast to really have a tough interview, as Tucker
Speaker 5: is very capable of doing, then that's one thing. But
Speaker 5: if he's gonna have him on to do the kind
Speaker 5: of softball interviews that he's done for other people lately,
Speaker 5: that's just gross. It's gross and unnecessary and uncalled for, Mandy.
Speaker 5: All white supremacists vote Republican, but that does not mean
Speaker 5: that all Republicans are white supremacists. Again, just like all
Speaker 5: anarchists probably vote Democrat, but not Democrats are all anarchists, Mandy.
Speaker 5: It's not pro Nazi in the sense of hardcore push
Speaker 5: but more of jokes than when you go down the
Speaker 5: rabbit hole of not PC jokes and means that stuff
Speaker 5: starts to pop up.
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe it's my own fault. Lol. Well, yeah,
Speaker 6: I think it is.
Speaker 5: I am going to talk about alternatives to health insurance
Speaker 5: that are actually about making healthcare.
Speaker 6: Both affordable and accessible.
Speaker 5: And joining me now is a like I mean, Travis
Speaker 5: is like a multiple time guest, He's practically a co host.
Speaker 5: Travis Bocenstaid is the Chief Experience Officer for Pinnacle Advanced
Speaker 5: Primary Care. They do direct primary care. And if you
Speaker 5: don't know what this is, hang in. We're going to
Speaker 5: help you understand the whole process. And joining her today
Speaker 5: is a new Travis Bocenstaid guest. Travis books all the
Speaker 5: guests now when it comes to healthcare. Lisa Fagan is
Speaker 5: the CEO of Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care, and this
Speaker 5: piece of the puzzle answers the question what if I
Speaker 5: need a knee replacement?
Speaker 6: But we're going to start with Travis first.
Speaker 5: Travis, for my listeners who've never heard you on the
Speaker 5: show before, let's do the elevator speech.
Speaker 6: What is direct primary care?
Speaker 13: So Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care and the DPC movement think
Speaker 13: about it like the Netflix of healthcare. You are going
Speaker 13: to pay a fixed monthly membership fee for unlimited access
Speaker 13: to primary care and family medicine with.
Speaker 2: No copays, deductibles, or offices at fees.
Speaker 13: So I want you to think about direct primary care
Speaker 13: like family medicine used to be forty fifty years ago
Speaker 13: before insurance ruined all of it, and DPC can take
Speaker 13: care of ninety percent of a member's everyday health and
Speaker 13: wellness needs.
Speaker 2: But for your listeners and Mandy, what we talk about
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 13: Of times is well what happens outside of the direct
Speaker 13: primary care space. And it's really exciting in the marketplace
Speaker 13: right now that we're not only seeing the growth of
Speaker 13: direct primary care, there's a new strong movement called the
Speaker 13: direct specialty care movement. And Pinnacle's been very excited to
Speaker 13: partner up with our friends at Smith Medical because they're
Speaker 13: solving that problem in the market and actually making big
Speaker 13: procedures affordable for people.
Speaker 5: If you guys have listened to the show at all,
Speaker 5: I have been talking since I got a show in
Speaker 5: two thousand and five about the Oklahoma City Surgical Center.
Speaker 5: The Oklahoma City Surgical Center is a surgical center staff
Speaker 5: by fine surgeons and doctors. And if you need any replacement,
Speaker 5: you can go right now to their website Oklahoma City
Speaker 5: Surgical Center and you can find out how much ane
Speaker 5: replacement is going to cost because they publish all of
Speaker 5: their prices online and I have held it up as
Speaker 5: the gold standard since two thousand and five. And now
Speaker 5: we have one in our neighborhood and it is called
Speaker 5: Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care. And on their website, I
Speaker 5: am right now clicking over to the page that says
Speaker 5: surgery pricing. So let's bring in CEO Lisa Fagan to
Speaker 5: talk about that aspect of it now.
Speaker 6: Lisa, I asked you why.
Speaker 5: You called it Smith Medical Direct Specialty Care. It's actually
Speaker 5: named in honor of the doctor from the Oklahoma City
Speaker 5: Surgical Center. So it was a long introduction, but I
Speaker 5: wanted to get all that in to kind of give
Speaker 5: the background. So you guys are just doing the same thing.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 9: Yes, we named our company after Keith Smith because he's
Speaker 9: the pioneer and we were honored that he allowed us
Speaker 9: to name our company after him. So we are a
Speaker 9: cash pay option for your surgical needs. We're affordable, transparent,
Speaker 9: bundled pricing. We're multi specialty, so we can cover anything
Speaker 9: from a total joint to a spine to a hernia
Speaker 9: and everything. All of our pricing is right online, like McDonald's.
Speaker 9: You take a look on our website and you can
Speaker 9: scroll through and you see a rotator cuff repair, you
Speaker 9: see a total joint and there are no hidden fees.
Speaker 9: You know the exact price upfront prior to surgery. You'll
Speaker 9: never get a bill on the back end. And our
Speaker 9: patients are loving it well.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's funny because you look at some
Speaker 5: of these prices, and some of them are are high prices.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about twenty two thousand dollars for
Speaker 5: a total knee replacement. But when you get into the
Speaker 5: cost of health insurance for someone over the age of fifty,
Speaker 5: they're paying that much in annual premiums for coverage that
Speaker 5: doesn't give them a whole bunch more, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. It's like you have to break it down
Speaker 5: into how you actually use healthcare. Now, I want to
Speaker 5: ask Travis a question, because the number one question I
Speaker 5: get is, so I sign up for direct primary care,
Speaker 5: or maybe even I sign up my business to take
Speaker 5: care of my employees with direct primary care. What happens
Speaker 5: if I have some kind of catastrophic event. Would you
Speaker 5: guys recommend these meta share programs or you work with
Speaker 5: some of those, but now you also have you know,
Speaker 5: Smith Medical where you can say, look, you can go
Speaker 5: over here at Lisa. I'm assuming you have some kind
Speaker 5: of financing options.
Speaker 9: We do have a financing option. But for employers, they
Speaker 9: actually love to pay direct too, because they save a
Speaker 9: significant amount of money on like their premiums for insurance,
Speaker 9: so they save about forty to sixty percent if they
Speaker 9: go directly to companies like US. So a total knee,
Speaker 9: like you said, yeah, it's a big price, but it's
Speaker 9: a lot more affordable than if they go to a
Speaker 9: hospital or another surgery center and they know exactly what
Speaker 9: they're going to pay. A total knee is the same
Speaker 9: price every single time they do it. I'm like, when
Speaker 9: you go to a hospital, it could be a bunch
Speaker 9: of different prices. It can range anywhere from three hundred
Speaker 9: percent for the same exact CPT code.
Speaker 6: So there's everything including plastic surgery.
Speaker 5: By the way, I was like, wait what, I love
Speaker 5: that And I think that eventually and I'm hoping this
Speaker 5: kind of model catches on that this is going to
Speaker 5: create some downward pressure on these prices in our metro area.
Speaker 5: Because years ago, when I interviewed doctor Keith smith On
Speaker 5: about this. He said, look, we've really seen some price
Speaker 5: reductions even in the hospitals because they have to compete
Speaker 5: with us. Now, you guys haven't been around that long,
Speaker 5: But how did you decide on this pricing? Like, tell
Speaker 5: me how you and I don't need like a you know,
Speaker 5: bullet pointed every single aspect. But when you're setting pricing,
Speaker 5: what do you look at.
Speaker 9: Well, we're really going off of Medicare pricing, So we're
Speaker 9: doing about one hundred and fifty percent of what Medicare
Speaker 9: charges and that's for across the board, so physician anesesia facility.
Speaker 9: And then we don't upprice the implant, which most of
Speaker 9: the most places do. They charge like a ten percent
Speaker 9: increase from the implant. We give it to them at cost.
Speaker 9: So really we're just wanting to be affordable for these patients.
Speaker 5: And that's another thing Travis about direct primary care is
Speaker 5: that you go in, you get your office visits, they
Speaker 5: don't cost you anything extra. But say you need a
Speaker 5: blood test, say you need a strip test, say you
Speaker 5: need something along those lines, you guys will do the test,
Speaker 5: but you only charge wholesale pricing, and those price differences
Speaker 5: are shocking, Like what you will pay less paying for
Speaker 5: the test than a lot of us paying a copay
Speaker 5: to go to a doctor's office.
Speaker 13: Right right, What you're finding here is we all follow
Speaker 13: the same principle. We believe that you can get high
Speaker 13: quality care at a very affordable price. And if we
Speaker 13: start to lift the veil on the madness that is
Speaker 13: happening behind the scenes, we can create stronger healthcare consumers.
Speaker 13: If you're someone that owns a business right now, and
Speaker 13: what's super exciting in the market is that Pinnacle now
Speaker 13: has our own health plan overlaid on top of our practice,
Speaker 13: and we are partnering specifically with Smith to refer surgeries
Speaker 13: over to them because we know those who take our
Speaker 13: health plan, we will be saving them hundreds and thousands
Speaker 13: of dollars by doing a direct pay relationship with Smith Medical.
Speaker 2: So it's like two p's in a pod.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We're keeping them happy and healthy.
Speaker 13: But when we want our members to get really affordable
Speaker 13: surgical care with no surprise medical bills, we are perfectly
Speaker 13: aligned with Smith and we have the opportunity to save
Speaker 13: local employers and their employees.
Speaker 2: It's of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 6: I got a couple of.
Speaker 5: Text messages earlier Travis from one of them from a
Speaker 5: guy who said, look, i run a business out of
Speaker 5: Dia and I've got forty employees and I need to
Speaker 5: do something just to keep employees. And I was like, well,
Speaker 5: you're gonna want to listen to this interview and give
Speaker 5: them a call now. At least people don't have to
Speaker 5: have a membership with you though, because you've only made
Speaker 5: I may only need Smith Medical Direct one time. Maybe
Speaker 5: if I go to get my I'm not getting my
Speaker 5: nose done. I have a good nose, but you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I mean, so I don't have to
Speaker 5: have a membership with you. Guys, No, no membership.
Speaker 9: And the average person has a surgery every fourteen years, right,
Speaker 9: so I mean hopefully you don't see us all that often,
Speaker 9: but when you do need us, we're here, and it's
Speaker 9: affordable and transparent pricing.
Speaker 5: So there are so many questions, so many questions. What's
Speaker 5: the warranty on a knee replacement or any surgery do
Speaker 5: you offer? Do do you get like five thousand miles
Speaker 5: on that knee replacement? How does that does that even work?
Speaker 9: So we don't have warranties on nee replacement vints. However,
Speaker 9: we stand by our work, so if you get an
Speaker 9: infection here from our surgery center, we will take care.
Speaker 5: Of it for free.
Speaker 2: We won't make you pay.
Speaker 9: If you need to come in for a washout, or
Speaker 9: if you get a hematoma or something like that, a
Speaker 9: small complication, we'll take care of you for free. But
Speaker 9: if your knee you're rejecting your knee implant, then unfortunately, yes,
Speaker 9: you would have to have another surgery. But yeah, so
Speaker 9: no warranty. However, we do stand by our infection rates
Speaker 9: and quality care, and our quality care is just as
Speaker 9: great as everyone everyone else around here. Everyone thinks, oh well,
Speaker 9: if it's cash pay, they're not following the same rules.
Speaker 9: That's actually not true. We went through the same licensing
Speaker 9: and accreditation that everyone else has gone through, and our
Speaker 9: quality care is high.
Speaker 6: So yeah, go ahead, Travis.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I've been in their operating room.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, we love smooth operator, Travis, but I don't
Speaker 6: want you operating on me.
Speaker 13: You don't because I had to have a chair ready
Speaker 13: just in case I passed out, But I for sure
Speaker 13: was in that room witness the most top notch surgeons
Speaker 13: and support team do that procedure, and I can say
Speaker 13: confidently that we would refer our patients to them.
Speaker 2: Lisa runs a tight ship and they do amazing care there.
Speaker 5: A lot of people are asking how to get a
Speaker 5: hold of Pinnacle or the Smith Medical Center. I put
Speaker 5: them both on the blog, but Pinnacle is PINNACLEAPC dot com.
Speaker 5: And I have probably fifteen super specific questions that you
Speaker 5: guys need to call and talk to Travis about because
Speaker 5: they're so highly specific that I don't want to kind
Speaker 5: of get into the weeds on the radio.
Speaker 6: But just go to Pinnacle a PC.
Speaker 5: That's Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care, PINNACLEAPC dot com. And then
Speaker 5: Lisa can be found at Smithdirectcare dot com. And if
Speaker 5: you're anything like me, you're gonna go to the website
Speaker 5: and look how much every surgery costs. That's what I
Speaker 5: did yesterday, Lisa, So now I know how much every
Speaker 5: single surgery at Smith's Direct Care is going to cost.
Speaker 6: Should I need to use your services?
Speaker 5: Guys? I love what you're doing so much, Lisa. I'm
Speaker 5: so glad you guys brought this to Colorado.
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, and it's really fun to be a part
Speaker 9: of it.
Speaker 5: Does somebody just ask what about physical therapy services after surgery.
Speaker 9: So we do have physical therapists that we work with
Speaker 9: that can be a cash paid price or many times
Speaker 9: they'll use their insurance because it doesn't mean a lot
Speaker 9: of times when people are going direct or employers are
Speaker 9: going direct, it doesn't mean that they don't carry an insurance.
Speaker 9: It just means that they're putting them in a tighter
Speaker 9: box and so they can use their insurance afterwards after
Speaker 9: the surgery.
Speaker 5: I do have probably ten questions of this nature. Would
Speaker 5: I benefit if I have Medicare Travis? How do you
Speaker 5: deal with Medicare patients?
Speaker 13: Though with Medicare patients, they do have to sign an
Speaker 13: opt out waiver.
Speaker 2: From a DPC standpoint, right, you cannot bill.
Speaker 13: Our services back to those government programs, right, But we
Speaker 13: know there are gaps in that care. We know there
Speaker 13: are gaps in payment, so we can actually help bridge that.
Speaker 13: And then too, as people age, they need more than
Speaker 13: a seven and a half visit, so we actually find
Speaker 13: those folks are actually contracting with a DPC and us
Speaker 13: it in direct paid resources even if they're using some
Speaker 13: of those programs.
Speaker 5: So what about the somebody asks, please ask your guests
Speaker 5: what the monthly cost would compare to Blue Cross, Blue Shield.
Speaker 5: We're a family of four and pay out the nose, Travis,
Speaker 5: your prices, you can just give those for a family.
Speaker 6: What do they look like?
Speaker 13: So I would highly recommend that if you are a
Speaker 13: family that's relatively healthy, low utilizer of healthcare, I would
Speaker 13: recommend a combination of Direct Primary Care and Zion Health Share.
Speaker 13: We can cut a We can get a family premium
Speaker 13: to around six hundred dollars for the entire household with
Speaker 13: roughly three thousand out of pocket, and plus you'll add
Speaker 13: you know, one hundred or so on top of that
Speaker 13: for your DPC membership. But we know families paying upwards
Speaker 13: of seventeen hundred a month, Yeah, with fifteen thousand dollars deductibles.
Speaker 5: PINNACLEAPC dot com, Smith Directcare dot Com, Lisa Fagan, Travis Barkinstead,
Speaker 5: thank you so much for making time today and just
Speaker 5: what a great thing to be happening in Colorado.
Speaker 10: I love it.
Speaker 2: Thanks Mandy, Thanks Mandy.
Speaker 5: Thanks Lisa. And now look with cat dragon. Oh you
Speaker 5: got the tiny chair.
Speaker 10: Yeah you did this on purpose though, right, No, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't want Well, you can have the broken armchair.
Speaker 10: That's the broken armchairs chair.
Speaker 6: When I come in for Ross's show, I'm forced to
Speaker 6: sit in the tiny.
Speaker 10: Chair, which of course gives you a big advantage.
Speaker 6: Well, a lollipopkick.
Speaker 14: You know how they do that on the big TV
Speaker 14: talk shows, right, yeah, the guest. If you notice, like
Speaker 14: ter men sitting way higher, the guest is down here.
Speaker 14: That keeps him in a commanding position, you know, the strategy.
Speaker 14: That's why I'm that's.
Speaker 5: Why in your head being tall. I've never had to
Speaker 5: think about that once in my life. I've always just
Speaker 5: been intimidating.
Speaker 10: You know, if I didn't love you'a wouldn't be here.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 10: I'm here so you can humiliate me on your game.
Speaker 5: I Am not going to humiliate it. Stop it right now,
Speaker 5: stop it, just stop it. Oh man, I didn't get
Speaker 5: to the story about how men walk. And you can
Speaker 5: tell how men fight by the way they walk. A
Speaker 5: new study has shown this.
Speaker 10: I'm interested.
Speaker 6: Well it's it's it's not just about men.
Speaker 5: Walking though, because it really does show as human beings,
Speaker 5: we make judgments when we see someone moving towards us.
Speaker 5: Is that person dangerous? Is that person not? And they
Speaker 5: did a breakdown on how men walk and how they
Speaker 5: present themselves, and how some men just look like if
Speaker 5: you mess with them, they will knock you out.
Speaker 14: And every man will tell you when you walk into
Speaker 14: a room, you evaluate, You do a quick evaluation of all.
Speaker 10: The other mens.
Speaker 6: You size them up, You size them up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, just a case, you got to throw it down.
Speaker 10: That's how it is.
Speaker 5: I don't think about it because again I'm just intimidating.
Speaker 5: But no, I was going to extrapolate it out to
Speaker 5: women as well. When you're walking in a city, they're
Speaker 5: women that nobody is going to mess with. I aspire
Speaker 5: to be those women when I am in a city,
Speaker 5: and then there are women who look like they are
Speaker 5: going to be victims. And it's all in how you
Speaker 5: carry yourself. It's all in your presence, in your physical being.
Speaker 5: And for someone who says, well, that's not how I
Speaker 5: am as a person, guess what.
Speaker 6: Feelings follow action.
Speaker 5: Take the action, open up, open up your chest, walk
Speaker 5: like a stone cold baller, and you'll start to feel
Speaker 5: like a stone, even if you're in the tiny chair.
Speaker 10: People people say. People say, walk tall. That's how it
Speaker 10: walk tall.
Speaker 5: When you walk into a room, you do you when
Speaker 5: you're walking on the street in a city like you
Speaker 5: know a busy street, do you make eye contact with
Speaker 5: people as you walk by?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 6: Oh, dude, I do.
Speaker 5: No, no, I I literally everybody knows I see you
Speaker 5: as they walk by me. I gotta tell you, when
Speaker 5: you're a woman, you got to think about this time.
Speaker 5: You've got to throw out a vibe that says, if
Speaker 5: you mess with me, I'm going to be the one
Speaker 5: who takes your eyeballs out.
Speaker 10: We're just pointed Chuck.
Speaker 6: Well, but he's not with me. When he's with me,
Speaker 6: I don't worry about anything. He sizes up everything.
Speaker 14: Every time he sees exactly I stand that chair. But
Speaker 14: this chair has got me quite the disadvantage.
Speaker 6: It really does.
Speaker 5: But now it's time for the most exciting segment on
Speaker 5: the radio of It's gone in the world. Well done,
Speaker 5: Rick lewis, well done.
Speaker 6: All right, here we go. What is our dad joke
Speaker 6: out the day? Please, Anthony, I.
Speaker 8: Am so close to becoming a billionaire. I have all
Speaker 8: the zeros now I just need a one.
Speaker 6: Yep, that is a one one point five because on
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 8: Where what's the word of the day?
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 14: It is a.
Speaker 8: Interjection?
Speaker 6: Hey, what interjection?
Speaker 5: What is interjection?
Speaker 10: Okay?
Speaker 8: Quota quota quotes quota q.
Speaker 6: U O t h as correct quota quoting someone or
Speaker 6: something like quota.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 14: I would say the same. You're you're trying to interject
Speaker 14: something about what they said.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you would both be right if the word would
Speaker 8: suggest what it would sound like.
Speaker 5: But no, it means indeed, quota.
Speaker 6: Of course, a quota. Yes, that's what it meant.
Speaker 5: Where in the world can you find the Bloody Bay
Speaker 5: Coral Wall, a popular diving site featuring a vertical wall
Speaker 5: of coral that glues with bioluminescent organism And why Hawaii?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna go where in Hawaii?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Indian, I'm going in Dni. No, I'm
Speaker 5: going Australia. No, Maui Bloody And yeah you going Mali.
Speaker 6: Oh this is so sad.
Speaker 5: I've actually been to this before and I forgot until
Speaker 5: right now. It's in the Little Cayman Islands, soth Little
Speaker 5: Cayman and the Cayman Islands. One legend claims that Bloody
Speaker 5: Bay's name is a nod to the many pirate battles
Speaker 5: that were once fought there.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 5: Another credit is the name to It's used by nineteen
Speaker 5: century whalers who butchered their catch there.
Speaker 6: I have been there, cool time. Yes, Cayman Island, Hawaii.
Speaker 5: Uh well it's Caribbeans, so it's just a different vot.
Speaker 5: Nothing is quite like Hawaii, you know what I mean? Yes,
Speaker 5: but I love the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 10: I've never been there. Who love Hawaii? Though?
Speaker 6: If you want to go Caribbean, go to the Caymans.
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, all right, for sure?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 6: Rick Lewis Nandy Connell. What is our category?
Speaker 8: The category is and I would never ever ever choose
Speaker 8: a category that is catered towards a guest. I take
Speaker 8: a fence in that. The category is pomp and rock music.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, how convenience Yeah okay for Mandy of course,
Speaker 5: for the pomp sign it's the pop, it's the poppy.
Speaker 6: I lose. Chuck is gonna make fun of me, so
Speaker 6: I gotta win.
Speaker 8: You guys ever had a show together, it'd be called
Speaker 8: pop Rocks. Here we go this hotel, California band first game,
Speaker 8: Andy got it first, and you gave a tour the
Speaker 8: correct Okay, I forgot how the great quish Oddly female
Speaker 8: rapper Megan Pete calls herself Megan v Mandy?
Speaker 6: What is the stallion?
Speaker 10: That is correct?
Speaker 8: In twenty nineteen, this five letter wrap, an R and
Speaker 8: B artist, had the juice to be nominated for Best
Speaker 8: New Artist at the VMA's What year twenty nineteen?
Speaker 6: One word that's not helped?
Speaker 8: Letter wrap an R and B artist? Mm dated Maybe
Speaker 8: a Minnesota Viking?
Speaker 10: What Rick? Ricky? That is?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 5: Who? Who? Lizzo?
Speaker 10: Half poiso? Sure, half pint?
Speaker 6: I'm giving them twite five five?
Speaker 10: Oh wait a minute, you know who it was?
Speaker 6: I didn't in twenty nineteen as well myself a point?
Speaker 8: I gave you a negative one?
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 8: In twenty nineteen, Madonna performed at, but did not compete
Speaker 8: in this international song competition that I've never heard of.
Speaker 6: No, it's the European song it's Mandy. What is Eurovision?
Speaker 8: That is correct?
Speaker 10: Good one.
Speaker 8: This Jackson Brown album about Life on the Road was
Speaker 8: recorded on stage, backstage, in hotel rooms, and on a
Speaker 8: tour bus.
Speaker 6: Say this is what Chuck's gonna yell at me about?
Speaker 5: I should know this?
Speaker 10: Rick running on empty?
Speaker 8: That is correct?
Speaker 5: What is the score?
Speaker 6: One point five to three?
Speaker 8: Oh it was a respectable loss, probably respectable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, it's over. Yeah, it's over to only five question?
Speaker 8: Of course, I mean we can go another any more minutes.
Speaker 6: Okay, you don't get going for the first three?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Fourth quarter, guy, Okay, you were down nineteen to nothing
Speaker 8: going into the like third question. You made it respectable,
Speaker 8: but you missed the field goal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 10: We're so close.
Speaker 2: That is so close.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming that Rick Lewis is going to be on
Speaker 5: KOI Sports today, otherwise you'd be napping right now.
Speaker 10: I came in here just for you, bandy. Then I'm
Speaker 10: going to drive all the way back home.
Speaker 8: No, you did not.
Speaker 10: Now I'm here for the sports show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you know what's what you guys are talking
Speaker 6: about to I'm.
Speaker 14: Sure we'll talk a little bit about the unbelievable game
Speaker 14: Sunday because I haven't had a chance to talk with
Speaker 14: the guys about that yet, and the game coming up,
Speaker 14: big game against the Cowboys coming.
Speaker 10: Up this week.
Speaker 5: I know the Cowboys are ascendant. They're not great, but
Speaker 5: they're better than I thought they were going to be
Speaker 5: this year, and they've been playing hard.
Speaker 14: They're ascending. You're right, and they have a really good offense.
Speaker 14: Their defense kind of stink.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 5: Luckily they should be able to shut us out for
Speaker 5: the first three quarters anyway.
Speaker 6: Koi Sports coming up next.