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So you know, first of all, I always say, you know, weatherwise,

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here we are in LA and I was just telling Mark,

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our producer who's based in Florida. They're used to the

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warm weather pretty much even during the winter, and we

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were talking about rain here in La. We had not

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such a great great April a you know April, we

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say April showers, We get that. But yesterday it was

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the first day that we really had sunshine here in Maine.

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It was what yesterday was the tenth and now it's great.

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So today here in La says to make you jealous.

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First of all, gorgeous blue skies. It's going to be

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eighty three here in La, eighty eight or ninety in

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the valley. And so that is really really great. So

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I'm waving to those who joined those of you at

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first timers. If you have any kind of questions, now

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this's time to ask. We would love to hear what

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you any issues you have. So I had a great

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The main reason was that, you know, I post, as

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you know on Instagram, I post a lot of my

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surgeries and love doing surgery, love seft tassue, love cancer surgery.

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Speaker 1: So I had two.

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Speaker 2: I mean first, besides the fact I said, we had

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free sistotomies removing stones out of a bladder in the

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last three weeks, which is not unusual. Me I'll do

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maybe I don't know. Five a year. I had three

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in three weeks, and I have another one coming up.

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I think, sadly it's another cat. One of the three

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was a cat, and this is a cat that already

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had what's called a pu.

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Speaker 1: What is it pu?

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Speaker 2: When you have male cats, typically female cats don't block

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as much as males. Why because the opening of the

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urethrap okay, at the vaginal canal is much wider than

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a male's, so males usually plug that stone can leave,

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the bladder starts coursing through that in your eath. You're

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ready to come out, and all of a sudden, boom

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gets plugged. We have to do as we catharize, then

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try to push it back into the bladder and try.

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Depending on what it is, some of the diets can

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be somewhat still dissolving. It helps a little, sometimes it works.

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Usually still we're gonna have to go in. That'sally if

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it's a big stone. Anyway, this cat presents again not

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only he materia, which means bleeding out of the penis,

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but it doesn't even have one anymore, because the last

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time it was so small that this cat blocked a

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few times they did what's called a pu, A paraneal

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your a thrust to me, that's where they literally and guys,

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don't hold your feet together and cringe. They actually amputate

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the penis and they go all the way back to

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this gland and that's where you want to remove it

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and then open up. Basically, you change the male's plumbing

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into a female and it's called it as your athrostomy.

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You open it up, you pull the urethra out a

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little bit, and you sew to the outside at the

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same area where it would have been, but now it's

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much wider and they can still they can do everything

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they can. Well obviously, oh these cats have been neuter anyway,

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so it doesn't make a difference. So this one had

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the pu might appear on yourthrostomy and well is past

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stones again and they're big enough. I don't think they're

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going to pass. So now what does that mean? That

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means that we are BacT to another surgery. What's so

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sad about these cases are? And this is the take

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home lesson. If you have a dog or a cat

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that is a stone farmer that means form stones and

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your veterinarian tells you you need to change the diet

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to one of these special diets. You gotta do it

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because so far now we might be two of the

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three that I did, they were redos redoing because a

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year later in the case that we had last week,

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the diet was never changed, even though they came back

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like a midway point. I asked, I said, so that's

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a dog doing on the diet and the new diet

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you we didn't we didn't try it yet. I don't

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think myself, what you didn't try it? I mean, how

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do you expect to make a change. So sure enough

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they're going to change the diet. So so that's what's

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going on with this cat. But I had two cases

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that were both as I posted.

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Speaker 1: One was Barney.

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Speaker 2: Now, Barney had this huge tumor on his album sixteen

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year Old Large Redog. I mean, that's that's pretty amazing

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by itself, but it was getting bigger based on his

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feel and its location on an extremity probably something called

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Hamanngio Perry's Sitouma. And you know, they are very aggressive locally,

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they have a very low metastatic potential that means probably

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not going to spread to the loyal liver and lungs.

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Speaker 1: So it was like, now what do you do?

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Speaker 2: So we convinced them owners because it was getting bigger

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and it was starting to affect his nobility, let me

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take it out.

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Speaker 1: So I got as much I could. They're very, very

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very difficult to get all.

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Speaker 2: Because they're so intertwined with this issue. It's really really bad. Anyway,

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we had it coming Friday for follow up. Took the

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bandage off. It looks amazing and he is doing so well.

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probably Tuesday one. We'renn take the stitches out. But for me,

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you know, as a bed on the area, as a surgeon,

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knowing that these hands are helping this dog. He look,

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I can't promise he's going to make it to seventeen

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or eighteens, sixteen. He's already way past his longevity statistical longevity.

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But he's doing great. His blood's were fine, your analysis,

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everything was good. I said, come on, we got to

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do it. If he looks this good on the insight,

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he will tolerate the anissect very well.

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Speaker 1: Which he did.

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Speaker 2: So now it's just good knowing that I can't predict

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when's he going to go. It might be a year,

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might be more, might be less, but I will tell

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you it's not going to be because of that to

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him and that to me, that brings a lot of joy.

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Steph Iya, how are you so question from let's see Potter?

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You got to help me on this one. Petter Algiro,

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that's a good one. You have to tell me what

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it is. Potter means father, I know that in Latin.

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But my three year old cat has always had very

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loose tools. Is there a foody, a conrect commend that

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might help? She's currently getting Kirkland salmon fila maintenance. Well,

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loose tools can be a number of things, number of reasons,

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sometimes just simple adding some fiber to the diet. I

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mean a cat an eighth of a teaspoon of silium

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husk powder pure silium husk. Do not give the silium

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that is artificially sweetened, because that potentially could be an

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artificial sweetener like xylotol, which is terrible, well, not trouble

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for us, terrible for cats. So anyway, we do not

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want to use that. And or adding a little cooked

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oat meal or can pumpkin if that doesn't work. I

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amount and see if that works. You know, typically it

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could be something else that the cat is eating. If

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that's all he's eating, nothing else and everything else is cool.

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that is otherwise okay, good appetite, right, good coat, active, animated, Everything.

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Speaker 1: Else is normal.

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Speaker 2: So it's just localized to probably the colon. So we say, okay,

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he's got this colitis. Nerves, stress, anxiety, excitement, diet, diet change,

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parasites unlikely to vi real cap but if he hasn't

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had a fecal sample in a while, it would be

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worth just to rule it out before you start worrying

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about some sort of food hypersensitivity. Now, if all that

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is negative, you cannot come up with anything else, then yes,

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different diet. And if it is a diet related problem,

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hopefully it'll resolve. But the only way to test it,

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you know, salmon is probably good. It's a feline maintenance diet.

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all of that stuff is crap, And is it the

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best food out there as far as ingredients and the

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way it's made.

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 2: But you know a lot of these commercial foods you

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have to go through a lot of testing, AFTCO, certification,

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't jump to that yet.

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turns out to be just a food hypersensitivity, or more

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specifically that food hypersensitivity. However, I would not jump to

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another salmon diet. I would jump to something else first.

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All right, hello, steph Okay, Now, the warm weather. We

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talked about it just a little bit ago. Eighty three

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degrees here. That kind of brings me to a subject

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that we need to obviously discuss. It's great that here

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it is in May, we're already talking about it. Hopefully

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it'll be a lesson throughout the summer. But we really

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do need to treat our animals in this heat differently

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than we would otherwise. So too cold, those of you

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who live in climates where it gets below zero, I know, Minnesota, Illinois,

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Speaker 2: I've been there in the winter February and Kansas City

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not nice, not good. I mean, when I was walking

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three blocks and when I got to my destination, I

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had to feel my ears. I felt like they were

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going to crack off. Then you know it's cold. Well,

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it's also that cold for our pets. So just like

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here's some hot weather precautions. Number One, exercise a lot

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of these animals, a lot of you. It's nice outside,

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you want to get out. You want to work off

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the excess winter weight that you may have put on,

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don't go from zero to sixty all right in one day,

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so you got to paste it and slowly gradually get

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them back into their routine.

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Speaker 2: Number Two, you don't do it in the heat of

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the day. I haven't seen too many animals come in

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with heatstroke because of they're running the trails at noon

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you want to do it early in the morning, late

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in the evening, and you want to make sure you

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have plenty of water with you and take plenty of stops.

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That's good for them as well. Now, also just remember

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another couple of things. Let me just wave for you

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guys here all right, Luise, Hello, Okay, if you need

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to give fleam edge here around a just mind, we'll

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talk about that in a minute. Oh go, we got

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some questions coming in, so maybe let's talk to these

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questions because then we'll complete and we make it to

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some of these answers.

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Speaker 1: Things that I want to talk about in these questions.

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Talk about that.

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Speaker 2: But so far is plenty of water early and late

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in the afternoon. You got to read them, by the way.

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You gotta read when they are starting to pant. Remember

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FESSI dogs, they love us, they want to be with us.

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They will do anything we want them to do, and

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they will actually over exert just to satisfy that need.

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So you got to be really careful read your pet

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to learn. Watch the tongue, watch the panting, take a

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break with them. See if they continue to pant aggressively.

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wet it, roll it up and stick it in the

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freezer overnight. In the morning before the walk, I wrap

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it around their neck and tie it and then it'll

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just add some chilling and it seems to keep them

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a little more calm. But again, the water is essential.

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Foot protection essential foot protection is also essential. Let's talk

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about that after a couple of these questions. So do

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we need fleam edge year round or just when it's warm, Well,

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really that depends on the fleet population. Typically in many

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climates we don't see a lot of fleas during the winter,

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even here in LA when it's not freezing cold, but

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we see a drop in flea population. Now, if you're

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in the southeast, if you're down in Texas, if you're

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in Florida and run the Gulf coasts Louisiana, you have

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fleas year round and you should never stop flea treatment. Now,

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having said that, the same thing goes because you have

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fleas and ticks. Now, if you're an area where ticks

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aren't afraid of cold weather, so you still might get

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a lot of tick disease during the winter, in which

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case you want to continue throughout the year. And lastly,

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heartworm if you're going to get either one of the

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newer eieshocks, azoleine treatments which are Next Guard, Simperico or

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Cordelio pervectos. Also they have vectos that doesn't have one

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for heartworm, but you can get Next Guard or Next

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ticks and heartworm. So again, warmer weather, moist weather, humidity.

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tons of mosquitoes, we're starting to see more more mosquitos

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a trio. And during the warmer weathers or the climate,

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of threat you have during the different seasons. So if

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use the ear Around twelve year old female dog keeps

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getting irritated in your vaginal area, red and crusty and

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smells and he okay, So cushings test because the skin

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issues is not my first thought. Excessive water drinking and

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excessive peeing, that's my first thought. And then I would

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do a blood test and if the alkaline phosphatas is

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very high, then yes, why I consider cushings as a

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rule out just bad skin, I would say allergy. But

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of dermatitis in the vaginal area, we call it vulvar

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fold hioderma. That is an infection deep in the vulvar folds.

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or just has prominent vulvar folds inside around the vulva,

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it's dark, it's moist, and it's a perfect environment for

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easton deck carrier. So you need to first of all

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check that if you stick your finger in there, and

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have a lot of black debris or dark renfigures, it's

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vulvar fold biodharma. And that's what I be treating now.

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always getting its volvo fl polyderma, then we have to

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do a vulvar fold plastic, which is we reduce the

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vulvar fold. It's a plastic surgery procedure. Most veterinarians should

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be able to do it. Unfortunately many won't. I'm not

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going to get into a discussion about the lack of

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surgical training a lot of our new graduates are getting.

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But it's not a difficult surgery. And if there's concern

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and your veterinarian doesn't do it, take it to a

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surgeon or find a veterinarian that does so. What it

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does basically, it reduces the depth of those volvar folds.

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to work with it again, treat allergy side a point

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apple quill or old fashioned corticosteroid antibiotic for sure, And

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for those I really like either some sort of anti fungal,

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anti bacterial, something with schlorhexidine and ketoconazole. I for example,

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have a spray called dermamist. I also have my derma

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wipes which have both of those ingredients. For that reason,

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we see a lot of this and also neopreedaf powder

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and not getting page produced any to endorse these. Well,

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maybe on my product I am, but not the Neopredaft.

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It's fantastic. It's a powder you kind of take your fingers,

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you spread the folds open a little bit and put

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this powder around. It's anti inflammatory, it's anti itch, it's drying,

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it's antibacterial, it's anti fungal. It's got it all and

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it really helps those areas as well. So one hundred

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percent I would recommend that okay, And cushings only if

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the dog is If all that fails and the dog

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is has a high alcin faster any dairy eye, it

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could be eight hundred and nine one thousand or more.

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And you're coming not because of the valagin a problem.

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You're coming because my dog doesn't stop drinking water and

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it's peeing all over the place. That ivy thinking of

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cushings or of course diabetes or kidney problems. All right,

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is it okay to keep a tu shirt on your

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dog to cover up stitches? Does that cause a problem

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to heal and popts and an air little orange?

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Speaker 1: C's okay?

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Speaker 2: So we have two maya, Luise, and I'm gonna keep

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gonna mute myself and we'll talk for a minute.

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, it's all fun and games until someone ends

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up in a cone. That's right, we are animals.

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Speaker 2: Deal with it.

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Speaker 1: Then we're back here live on bet life Radio.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about baby teeth and neutering, so I like

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for all the teeth to be and unfortunately the large

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breeds and giant breath don't usually get deciduous teeth, so

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it's less common to have to worry about it. So

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I then look at how badly misplaced is the adult tooth.

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If it is badly misplaced, we got to get the

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baby tooth out of the way and give the chance

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of the adult tooth to go back into normal position.

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If it's really not that badly displaced, then I would

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wait until I can do them all in one sitting

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or wait till neutering. With the large breeds, if I

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do have one, I may recommend six eight months or so,

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taking the baby and then still coming back because the

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anesthesia for deciduous teeth is really quick, so it's not

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like it's a long procedure. So I would probably do that.

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But you know, every case is individual. It depends on

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a lot of factors. So but neutering, there you go.

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Small breeds, it can be really anytime after they're fully mature.

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Big breeds, I like to wait until they are built

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fully mature, but it might be a year to year

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and a half a large breeze, and it could be

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up to two years in a giant breed. Okay, now

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let's go back to some great questions from El Luis

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pat Rescue. VICKI always has good questions for me. Is

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there okay to keep a T shirt on your dog

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to cover stitches? It won't a pede healing because T

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shirts are loose, it's not good and pedealing at all.

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But because it's lose, it may also not keep the

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animal away from licking. So it's a double edged swords.

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Speaker 1: There. Is it convenient? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Is it less obtrusive for the dog, and yes, because

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they can still get around it pretty easily. It's not

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going to confine them. We want them, and it's going

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to really protect the incisions. And it may not do

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such a great job, however, it is easier for you.

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And because it is not as confining, then the dog

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seems to like it better. All right, we have palm

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trees and my dog keeps eating the little orange seeds.

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Speaker 1: Your dog mostly. I can't it what you would do?

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not sure exactly those little palm

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seeds how toxic they are. If they're swallowing them, and

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they can swallow a bunch at once, I'd worry more

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of an impaction than I wore to toxic. I don't

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think they're toxic, but that's something I would even have

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to look up. You can go to a toxicology if

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they're a toxicology website, or ask Google. All right, are

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orange palm seeds toxic to pets? A lot of things

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we try to avoid are not that they're toxic, but

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they're irritative to the gastro intestinal trap, meaning could cause vomiting,

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could cause impaction if they're clumped up together. But it's

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not like a poison, So that would be my answer

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for that. One necessary to give your dog the lepto shot.

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What are side effects?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: So all the vaccines leptoi, it's very personal. I look

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at the lifestyle. For me, except for a couple of

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years ago here in La it wasn't lifestyle because they

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were finding hotst of lepto. Cases of dogs are just

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going to parks because of the rat feces, so you

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haven't seen many cases. I personally do not do my dogs.

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either in canyons or in the mountains, and there are

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a lot of wild animals, wild rodents that might be

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urinating and defecating around streams, and the stool in the

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urine gets into the streams, then the dog going dreams

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though stream water, then yes, I would protect them against lepto.

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We don't see it very often. It is very serious.

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an active tighter and we have to keep an eye

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on the kidneys because it definitely caused kidney problems. So

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That would be my criteria. What is your lifestyle Do

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you take your dogs to these areas where the disease

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is prevalent because of these wild animals and wild rodents.

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If the answer to that is yes, then the lepto

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vaccine is a necessity. If it's not, then don't now

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side effects. It seems, even though they've claimed a lot

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of the companies claim that the nectro shot has gotten

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so much better than it, doesn't call it. I've seen

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a lot of dogs that will have a day or

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two of soreness. I have never, in all my years,

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seen a dog die from a lecto shot. So get

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that out of here system.

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Speaker 1: Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Google says it's that dangerous. No, doctor, Google doesn't know

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if there was one death, and therefore you have to

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report it and Google gets a hold of it, and

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all these people talk about the other people about what

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they read on Google.

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Speaker 1: Doctor.

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Speaker 2: That's how it expands into like fear. But there's no doubt.

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I get call some people after a lepto shot. My

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dog's depressed, he doesn't want to eat, and it goes

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on for a few days.

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Speaker 1: Not the worst.

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Speaker 2: So I would not use only the post op potential

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problem as an excuse not to get it. If your

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dog is going to be exposed, why because the lepto

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SHOT's not going to kill him, but lepto can. So

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it's you got to do the right thing. So we

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got them all. We got them all, the palm tree seeds,

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the lepto shot. Uh right, all right, Janice JB. How

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you doing any other questions?

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Speaker 1: Ask away? We got three minutes, so all right, let

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me there was.

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Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to talk about, and unless we

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get a question that I will do that first.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the question is it's not me a question.

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and I always like to share because I guarantee if

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I'm getting them, you're thinking about them. And that is

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food allergy. How many times the animal people come in

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and they're concerned about food alogy? Why is on the

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internet it talks about all these food allergies. So let

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me give you what I know. And again things can change,

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and probably so foods can more frequently cause a GI

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upset than actual skin allergy. So keep that in mind.

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it into allergies that are affecting the skin and allergies

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that are affecting the gi trap and the treatments are

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unfortunately pretty much the same but so critical signs of

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food allergy. As far as skin, you're going to notice

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an animal that first of all is chewing its feet,

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especially front feet, licking like crazy, but enough that we

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see saliva staining. I have a lot of people to

474
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come in with dogs with just licking their feet, almost

475
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like an ail bier or a thumbsucker. They just it

476
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soothes them, It gives them some mental relief. That's non

477
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allergy food allergy. Dogs that have true food allergy that

478
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also often you might catch them rubbing at their face

479
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or dragging their face against the carpet or a wall.

480
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Speaker 1: Okay.

481
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Speaker 2: And lastly ears, so food face and ears, those are

482
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the things that we most commonly see in dogs that

483
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are food allergies and most importantly non seasonal. Why because

484
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unless you're changing your dog's food every season, okay, and

485
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you're probably eating the same thing if it was true

486
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food allergy but only happened started April, May, June, July, August, whatever,

487
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it's not food Because why atopy atopic dermatitis okay, which

488
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is the inhaled allergen dermatitis much more common. That is

489
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seasonal and also could be lictric ear, terrible ears, ears

490
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and overlap ears, get both and even chewing the feet,

491
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so you gotta be really careful. Dermatologists say that fifteen,

492
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maybe max twenty percent of all skin allergies are actually

493
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food related. That means eighty to eighty five percent are not.

494
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So don't just jump to food allergy now. If it is,

495
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if you have everything that completely fits the bill, it's

496
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all year round, it's feed ears, rubbing the face, all right,

497
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then I would.

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Speaker 1: Look at the food. So a couple of things we know.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the most common proteins that are implicated

500
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in food allergies are your poultry it's so ticket and

501
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,000
turkey beef. Okay, keep that in mind. And as far

502
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as grains is corn, wheat and rice. So the first

503
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thing you want to do is look for foods. And

504
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the same thing, by the way, let's talk about the

505
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GI allergies, inflammatory bowel disease, Okay, things like that. Those

506
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also could be food related, and we want to get

507
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them on hypoallergenic diets, single antigen diets and best could

508
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be both, but it's not only single aanagen, but it's

509
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either low fat and it is HA which is hypoalergenic,

510
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or HP hydrolyzed protein. So they're what we're looking at.

511
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We're looking at low anigen diets and single protein, single

512
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grain or a single car But it could be a vegetable,

513
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it could be a fruit, it could be an actual grain.

514
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Things that the body has never been exposed to before.

515
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It's really hard to be allergic to something if the

516
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body has never seen it before, such as and you're

517
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gonna some of these are kind of wacko venison, bison, rabbit, alligator, kangaroo, salmon.

518
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Most of the time, tilapia cod duck is a good one,

519
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so whitness last time a dog eate kangaroo or alligator.

520
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So you're looking for weird proteins. So chances are they

521
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won't have signs of allergy. At least it could happen

522
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six or eight months later. They can develop analogy. They've

523
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already shown that they have that sensitivity. However, it's going

524
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to be a while. As far as great again, you

525
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want to avoid the cornba so you're can look it

526
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things like barley, oats, sweet potato, potato, quinoa, so again

527
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:51,839
things that they've probably never seen, or green pea and

528
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broccoli cauliflower.

529
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Speaker 1: So you can look for foods that.

530
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Speaker 2: Have really weird, unique combination that the body has never

531
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been exposed to before and put them on that minimum

532
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,319
minimum six weeks, might take eight. Well, here's the key

533
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during this food trial as we call it, called them

534
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,920
elimination trial. If we truly suspect food allergy, it's going

535
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to take a while to see a result. And that

536
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,839
means also means six eight weeks. And also you got

537
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to watch the treat that you give. The treats they

538
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,920
have to be the same as the food. So if

539
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you're going to buy a cod based or a venison

540
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based or a rabbit based type, you need to get

541
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rabbits treats, rabbit or venison treats the same things, the

542
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same protein and very small amount, and don't mix it

543
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with something else.

544
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Speaker 1: It's the biggest mistake.

545
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Speaker 2: A lot of people make the food, They feed the

546
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right food, but then they're going back to the regular

547
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,799
treats and guess what, there's chicken or beef in the treats. Well, yeah,

548
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,359
that's not going to work. So you've got to be really,

549
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,000
really strict. That's my recommendation. How long can ibdcat be imbudesciinie.

550
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,559
That's a great question. So first all, we love being estaite.

551
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It's a steroid that a lot of us are using

552
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over predice own or a cat pritness alone, And it

553
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,960
really depends on I liked it. We start every day,

554
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then we try to go to every other day, and

555
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,000
I would just do routine lab tests maybe every twelve,

556
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,279
sixteen weeks or four months, whatever, and just make sure

557
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,599
that their values the liver values. One good thing about

558
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,039
a cat when it comes to cats and steroids is

559
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they can tolerate these.

560
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: Steroids way better than dogs.

561
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Speaker 2: So it's almost and don't get this the wrong way,

562
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,839
they can tolerate almost as I care with reckless abandon

563
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,759
They seem to do so much better than dogs do

564
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,400
on steroids. We don't see the same side effects, and

565
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:34,920
they do tolerate the steroids. But even still, sometimes we

566
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,400
can't see how the liver is doing on an outward sign.

567
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Speaker 1: So I would still.

568
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,759
Speaker 2: Monitor their bloods, and if their bloods are fine, they're

569
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doing fine, they're still maintaining their appetite, et cetera. Then

570
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I would just try decreasing as much as you can see.

571
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If you do it every other day, every third day,

572
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,920
you get to a point where youding b neestla every

573
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third day, there's very little damage to be able to do.

574
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You still monitor, but that's what I recommend.

575
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Speaker 1: Now.

576
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Speaker 2: If you stop and like after a day, and they start,

577
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then then you know you got some issues. Do you

578
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,400
think apple cider vinegar with water can help with feet

579
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,200
licking they cleaned with after a walk, Well, that's a

580
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,599
really good question. If we think that the chewing is

581
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because of cleanliness or picking up some bacteria or something.

582
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,319
I don't imagine it could help personally. I've never tried

583
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:17,839
it myself, so I can't tell you. I can't even

584
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:20,440
tell you how it tastes. But you're gonna baterly gonna

585
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,680
lick for feet. If it also helps prevent them from

586
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,119
linking their feet, ah, that's a good thing too. So

587
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,039
there's no downside to it. There's nothing toxic a poisonous

588
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,680
about it. So I would try it and if it works, fantastic,

589
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,799
and if it doesn't work, you could say at least

590
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I try it. All right, Okay, I think there you go, Julia,

591
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So I see a lot of names I've not seen before.

592
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Thank you for joining me. Please tell your friends I'm

593
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here every Sunday morning, same time, same channel. If you

594
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have questions, reach out to me during the week we

595
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,599
get a great subject for me to talk about. And

596
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if not, if you want to wait until the show

597
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is live, then you can go ahead and ask me

598
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,960
your questions, et cetera. Would love to answer them help

599
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,880
you out. So once again, you can reach me verbs

600
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Underscore DVM here on Instagram. You can reach me on

601
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,680
doctor Jeff at Petlafe radio dot com, and that's here

602
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:07,400
on Instagram. And other than that, I think that's it.

603
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That's all we have time for. So again, tell your

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friends that if they were first of all, I would

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love to have them join me. And just check into

606
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my Instagram only because I post really cool stuff. I

607
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,119
get a lot of good feedback, especially my surgeries and

608
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the after serve. Oh the other surger I was going

609
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:26,359
to tell you about was amazing and if you've seen

610
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,240
I posted pictures, they were really gross. I even warned

611
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,039
everybody be careful. That was a dog. His name was Brian,

612
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and Brian was bitten. It was my rescue went to

613
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,200
a first foster was bitten pretty badly, but they didn't

614
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,480
know because it was long hair. Foster had him. He

615
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,079
wasn't doing great. You'll know why in a minute. Went

616
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back to the rescue and then to another foster. The

617
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960
other foster noted this swelling around his neck and when

618
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,559
he was feeling it, he looked at his hands and

619
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it was like a gross discharge. So he brought him

620
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in and the prost discharge was draining two holes. They

621
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,759
said he was trying to get under a fence and

622
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,000
they have cut himself. No, no, no, two holes like that. That

623
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is a dog bite.

624
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Speaker 1: From one or the other. Somewhere along the line.

625
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Speaker 2: This dog was bitten because of the long hair. Was

626
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000
never really determined why or that it was even there

627
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,200
until it blew up. So we knew we had to

628
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400
open up put some drains in. Well, no, that wasn't enough.

629
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Check my instagram you're going to see what it looked like.

630
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,839
It was absolutely disgusting. We had to cut away so

631
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,559
much tissue, so much necrotic dead tissue and smelly and

632
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,960
plus pockets. It was just disgusting and horrendous for Ryan.

633
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:38,240
So we started on drew heavy duty antibotics. Cleaned out

634
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640
as much as we could, freshen the edges of this

635
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,839
of this disgusting wound. Put suitus in, put a drain in.

636
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160
We just pulled a drain Friday. You would not believe

637
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440
what this thing looks like now. It is unreal. You

638
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,559
would never in a million years imagine from what we

639
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,920
did now what it looks like now and what it

640
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,000
looked like when we started.

641
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,559
Speaker 1: It is night and day.

642
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: So I'm of pictures that we took on Friday, still

643
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,759
not one hundred percent heeled.

644
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: We're going to see you next week for the suser and mooval.

645
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:06,799
There's one little.

646
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,559
Speaker 2: Spot near where one of the drain put in that

647
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,559
is still It may needed just a little refreshing of

648
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:13,960
the tissue. We call deep writing and then a couple

649
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,039
of suitors, but overall it's a new dog and again

650
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,359
thinking about what we can do to help these animals.

651
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Speaker 1: And this is why I get so excited about what

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I do. See you next week.

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Speaker 3: Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on Petlife

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