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best at Banterwealth. It is time to talk to college

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basketball BYU basketball season is right around the corner. They

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tipped off essentially their exhibition season at Nebraska. They fell short,

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but it's just practice. We're talking about practice here. Despite

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a late surge from its newcomers, Number eight b YU

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fell short in a ninety to eighty nine exhibition loss

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to Nebraska at Pinnacle Bank Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: The cool thing was.

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Speaker 1: After this loss, they had a high high power jet

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that got them to Provo right before kickoff, and aj

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De Bonds and the basketball players were first row of

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the rock, rising and shouting as the Cougar football team

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beat up on the utes. But let's talk basketball with

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in the six foot eight two and twenty pounder out

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of Brasil. Let's welcome in the uh the one, the

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only Jonathan Tabinari for three JT Jonathan Tabernari.

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Speaker 4: How the heck are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: I keep getting taller, I keep getting leaner, and I

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haven't worked out even yet.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine when I actually get started working out

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with Kyle Collins, work man, I'm gonna be six one ninety.

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My goodness, what.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys, finalize on. I said, I'd throw in money.

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I don't know how much, I'll know whatever, right, But uh,

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but what did you guys finalize on for this weight

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loss challenge?

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Speaker 3: So the reason why, the reason why Kyle said I'm

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gonna give him a thousand dollars is because I'm like, look, man,

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basketball is now my job anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know, I run tech companies for a living out

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ben you know. And then I have talked about.

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Speaker 3: Sales, and uh, I'm busy, man, you know, I work

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on startups.

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Speaker 2: I speak you know, four or five languages, and I'm busy.

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And so the last.

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Speaker 3: Thing on my mind is you know, stinging shape because

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in my mind, I don't need to be healthy. Well,

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I don't need to be in shape for me to

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you know, close deals.

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Speaker 2: I mean in front of my computer. I'm working out

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of you know, on a road.

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Speaker 3: And so Kyle's like, well, let me throw some money

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for me to see if that's going to incentivize.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, Kyle, a thousand bucks then you know, like,

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let's just at least let's make that well, you know.

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And I told him, I said, hey, look, let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Let's do something for the giving machines like, I think

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it's pretty cool. And so on Thursday, I'm on a

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road right now, I'm in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm on the DO campus for some business.

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Speaker 3: And on on Thursday, he and I are getting together

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doing an official weight in and see where the thing goes.

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Speaker 1: I love it, man, well, I support you and your

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quest to lose some lbs, but also to do something

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good with the money raised, which you always do. I

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love and appreciate your brother and willing to support you

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anyway that I can. But this bou basketball team, you know,

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some people you know got eyes on this team nationally locally.

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Speaker 4: What did you make of it? What did your eye see?

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Speaker 1: The good, the bad, the beautiful, the ugly in this

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exhibition game versus Nebraska?

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Speaker 3: All So, I remember how you know, when we did

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the show, a lot of times you go, let's go

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with the nitty, greedy, you know, and then you said

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you know you would didn't do also the good, the.

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Speaker 2: Bad, and the ugly. Let's start with the good.

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Speaker 3: Y aj debansa an absolutely terror, a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: For opposing defenses. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Then, just like Aaron Rodericks said, that bear running the

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ball the way he did against Arizona's unsustainable? Is aj

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getting to the line ten times the game sustainable?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time imagining that anybody can take

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that level off counting right, Michael Jordan did it, Kobe

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did it, but there's not a ton of players you

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know that actually did it, you know once the adjusted

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the rules. James Harden, you know, kind of disappear, right, Shay?

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is he going to disappear?

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Speaker 2: And so to be determined?

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Speaker 3: Right, what I can tell you is that he is

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not your typical freshman. And you know, I think Bhim

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asked me, asked me last week is he going to

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live up to the hype? And my brother in Christ,

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hype because if he did that on a on a

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he was going full speed and you could tell. But

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can you imagine when you know the popcorn actually has

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the extra butter on it, and you know the tickets

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are actually sold and all of this stuff, My goodness gracious,

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the bad what I.

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Speaker 2: Would say is probably the fact that.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Young is going to have a hard time with

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the rotations. And I don't think it's going to be

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an early situation like it was, you know, him figuring

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out the Foo situation, like if you remember last year.

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clear path to figuring it out how to get foos

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and how to get Keva in the game. And he

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got their rotation down pretty quick, and and he figured

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that out and it was a smooth one.

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Speaker 2: The problem is this year.

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Speaker 3: I you know, how is he going to play Xavion?

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in his career, he's going to be much more than that.

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do you play Dominique? Which I was, you know, incredibly

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impressed by their physique, their body, They look like NBA players,

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still developing and so but to me, the main question becomes,

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how are they going to be able to do that

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and develop quick? Because you know it's it's going to

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be interesting when Keva comes out, who's the inside presence,

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who is going to protect the paint?

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Speaker 2: Who is going to cause the teams to collapse? And uh,

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Speaker 3: Create the space, which kind of brings me a little

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bit to the ugly, which is I personally was expecting

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more out of Richie Saunders. Now I'm not saying Richie

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played bad, you know, like you know all you know

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that lightning and thunder will strike me right now, I

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don't mean that, but Richie was the very help me

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out here with the word then he was almost like nonchalant,

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like he was waiting for, you know, the ball.

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Speaker 2: To come to him. And I don't think that this

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Speaker 3: For now that it's going to have a ton of

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bulk movement like it was last year.

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Speaker 2: Aj needs the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 3: To the effect if we saw that, you know at

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the game, how many times.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a chance to watch the game, then by.

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Speaker 1: Way, yeah I was capable of watching it. And look,

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look what type of offense do you want? Do you

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want a pro style offense or do you want a

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collegiate offense? And and well if age is going to

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be when when Rob's out and agent is going to

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be your primary ball handler. I think you're gonna get

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a lot of ISO. That's just the nature of this

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game right now.

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Speaker 3: And and and I don't disagree with you, which is

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why I said that that to me was the bad.

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Speaker 2: Figuring out the rotations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one with with Xavion, to me is just

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a tip of this here.

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Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. Robert right can go like he

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Speaker 3: Go right, And and we saw in the first five

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seven minutes he made some move that like he felt

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like it felt like he was a like a senior

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in high school playing against seventh graders. Like he looked

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like they he made people look stupid. And that's fine.

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The problem is you need to have you need to

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have either AJ or Robert or Richie on the court

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at all times. Now, when Robert and AJ are on

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the court at all times, you can have more of

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a pro style offense where it's more isolation. When Richie

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Speaker 5: You need to have you know, potentially Kadeen and Dominique

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and Canar Dave is there because the ball needs to

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move and Richie is a system player in terms of

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the ball needs to move and needs to rotate so

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Speaker 2: It on the go and go.

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Speaker 3: Richie is not a giving the ball and I'm going

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to create a shot that's not his game.

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Speaker 2: And so that to me was the.

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Speaker 3: Ugly is you know, in terms of I, you know,

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Richie an incredible season last year, right, and we've all

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due respect to a J right, And I don't mean

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to put it down, and we're talking about the number

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one recruit in the country, but like, Richie has been

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say I expected a little bit more out of Richie

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lot of room to AJ to operate. But I don't

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think that it's necessarily only Richie's fault, right, I think

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that this is one of those things that Kevin Young

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and the staff is going to have to adjust the

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rhythm off the game, you know, and then if I

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can just throw one last seam, there is just you know,

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the three point shooting, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mihilo's supposed to be a shooter.

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Speaker 3: Ale Say is supposed to be a shooter, but we

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actually saw AJ be more of a shooter than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: And so again props to AJ.

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Speaker 3: But who's going to be the guys that are going

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to spot up and catch and shoot and open up

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the floor for everybody else.

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Speaker 4: That's my an Now the game ban Yeah, I love that.

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Let me give you a quote from Kevin Young.

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Speaker 1: He said three things I wanted out of this game

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was to see our starters together, rob out AJ Wood,

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shooters around him, and our defensive group. I feel good

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about learning more about our group based on those criteria

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that I laid out, no matter who we had out there,

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just being able to play a team like that who

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is well coached. That's Fred Hoiberg is a really good coach. Offensively,

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they run their stuff super hard. That was a good

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thing for us to experience. On the defensive side of

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the ball, do you feel like you know, I mean,

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this is all repetition we're talking about here. They're going

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to get better defensively as well. One cohesion having it

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Speaker 3: Well, Right, Yeah, I totally agree. I to be honest

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with you, Ben and listen, people like to make fun

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of me j T who couldn't guard anybody.

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Speaker 2: Go look at the stacks.

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Speaker 4: Now you bodied up, bodied up some dudes. Man, you

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got out there. Great for it.

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Speaker 3: But but if you actually look at but Ben I

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was never a grade one on one player.

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Speaker 2: I was a great team defender exactly. And if you

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Speaker 3: Look at the metrics and the stats, I'm one of

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the top five top seven defensive players in Duyu history

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in terms of wind share. Because when you have a

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system down and you have people with high basketball IQ,

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which you know I would probably say I have, that

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makes the game easier. And so defensively to me, obviously,

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it's not a concern as I watched this Uyu team,

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because they will figure it out.

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Speaker 2: They had enough guys there, you know, with.

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Speaker 3: Will and John and Chris Burgess and the whole staff,

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they're gonna be okay defensively right offensively, you know, finding

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a ridm on offense, it's a whole lot more difficult,

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you know, because you know you can't you know, it's

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difficult for you to change the DNA of certain players,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: And so how can how can to me?

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Speaker 3: And I told you this from the again, John Rothstein

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has said, well, how is BYU gonna deal with the subs?

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Speaker 2: And the bench. That's not my number one concern for

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the year.

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Speaker 3: My number one thing this year is how soon can

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Cavin Young figure out the dynamics between Rob Wright, Aj

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and Richie because those are going to be his three

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leaguing scores this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Aj de Bonco scored nineteen of his team high thirty

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points in the first half is the freshman win. Ten

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of nineteen from the field, two to four from the

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three point line, eight of eight from the charity stripe.

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He also had seven rebounds, three assists, three steals in

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the block. That's a nice healthy stat line. Kadi Maboo

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he recorded a double double as a retro freshman with

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eleven of BYU's thirty nine rebounds. He also went four

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to four from the field and four to four from

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the charity stripe. Richie Saunders and Alecxi Coastick also reached

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double figures, finishing with eleven points up piece and the

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Cougar shot forty five point three percent from the field. Uh,

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but thirty two point three from three point range. You

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alluded to maybe three point shooting. You want to see

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a little bit more efficiency maybe from the three point line.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that when you look at when you

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look at what made u i U success, what makes

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UIU successful last year? Right, and we're saying last year

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because that was Kevin Young's first year. The he was

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absolutely three point shooting and facing Now this is a

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completely different roster. You have a team. You start with

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the point guard where you have a scouring first point

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guard right in comparison to Yegua. And then you have

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a two guard who is arguably the best two guard

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that has ever played at Uyu. And so as you

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make all of these things and all of these these

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these these distinctions.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to figure out a way. You

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have to figure out a way too, You have you

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have to figure out a way.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm just trying to walk away from This's like

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wherever growth, it gets you worse, but you have to

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figure out a way to adapt. And so to me,

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this year, the number one thing that becomes important is

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how can you find more space for everybody to to operate?

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Speaker 2: How can you find more space for a gagword to operate?

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Speaker 3: How can you find more space for Richie to actually

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catch him penetrate?

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Speaker 2: And you know, we didn't see a ton of debt

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in the game. We saw a lot of individual work

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one on one, which, again.

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Speaker 3: I get what you said about a pro style offense

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versus the collegiate offense. But you know two, you know one,

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you know your leading returnings for is not a individual

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one oh one, create his.

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Speaker 2: Own shot type of player.

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Speaker 3: He's a system guy that needs the ball to rotate

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for him to be successful.

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Speaker 2: So how will Kevin Young adapt to that? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I'm intrigued, no doubt about it. JT.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to rivalry talk. I know you love

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to talk a little football. One of the debates I've

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had with friends and foes, when BYU football beats the Utes,

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is there more just happiness and Cougar Country than when

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when BYU basketball beats the Utes on the hardwood? I

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would say yes, that the collective fan base is happier

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when we win on the grid ironers opposed to on

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the hardwood.

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Speaker 2: What say you? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I would agree one thousand percent with that, and that's

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because of their magnitude. One football game means way more

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than two basketball games, right and right?

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Speaker 1: I think from JT, who drives the ship, who's at

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the helm?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I've always said it, man, be you know, football

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rides this show by all Mese, you know. So I

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have always said that, you know, and I think because

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of the impact of that one win, you know, not

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necessarily not only because it's your rival, but it's because

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it's a massive win against the component.

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to Utah.

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Speaker 3: It's your hater rival and with and I think you

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know the successes of lates of Utah versus you know,

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the constant failure that Utah basketball has been, you know

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since pretty much under Bogut left town. It's you know,

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it's a team sport when it comes to college ben basketball,

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when it comes to college is that seems sport?

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Speaker 2: Right? Very few people are like, oh, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Follow you know, this team, and I'm a I'm a

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I'm a Utah State fan because of Jordan Love. Nobody

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says that, right, They're not a Utah State fan. People

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didn't become a UYU fan because of Gym. They were

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YU fans before, right. People are not, Hey, I'm going

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to be a YU fan because of aj No.

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Speaker 2: People have been v YU fans.

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Speaker 3: And so with football and the impact and and the

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things that that are of consequence because of that win

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become a magnitude and so I a thousand percent agree

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with you. One BYU football win every year over Utah

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means more.

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Speaker 2: Than you know, all of the wins.

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Speaker 3: Against Utah in basketball for the last ten years.

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Speaker 4: JT.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the win over the Utes

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this past weekend?

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Speaker 4: How did you watch it? How'd you consume it? And

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how'd you celebrate?

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Speaker 3: I was at home, you know, my my boy, my

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oldest boy, Xander is getting really into it and we're

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watching it. He had friends over the house. You know,

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I enjoy I don't enjoy going to the stadium. I

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think the atmosphere and the experience is great. It's just

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not my my favorite. And the reason why I say

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that is because the reason why I that is because I,

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you know, it's super loud, and I enjoy being able to.

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Speaker 2: Mute the you know, the TV. I able to get

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up and get some snacks, go to the bathroom. You know,

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I'm just I don't know, but you know, from your.

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Speaker 1: Own creature of convenience, that's what you are. You're a

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creature of convenience, which is.

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Speaker 3: Why i'm you know, which is probably one of the

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reasons why it led me to gain you know, one

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hundred and fifty pounds as I retire from playing basketball.

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Speaker 4: And I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Pace with who I am and with the choices that

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I have made. It's true, you know what I mean,

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and so but I am a creature of convenience and

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you know, but again, right, what a fantastic win. And

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watching the cut, Ben, you and I are very similar

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of the way we feel about by U.

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Speaker 2: And every time I watch the cut, I get emotional

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like it.

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Speaker 3: I get emotional because like I remember, and I know

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you do too, because I mean, you even came from

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me in scholars you know, from being a walk on to.

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Speaker 2: Then earning playing time. I remember what it was like to.

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Speaker 3: Work and work and work and work and work and

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sacrifice and sacrifice to be able to earn and to

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get victory, right, and to see other people going through that,

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like it's emotional to me.

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Speaker 2: And even more so you know at the end when

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they sing the fight.

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Speaker 3: Song and the things Kalan he say, and so you know,

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what a great weekend for Kugarnation and a massive basketball

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game here in about three days that I can wait

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to see.

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Speaker 2: How by does Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Uh can't wait to watch you can't wait to see

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it JT. Always a pleasure, always a blessing talking ball

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with you. We'll chat again next week as we were

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recap hopefully another big win for BYU basketball and football.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, brother, Amen and always in forever.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry it looks like I have, you know,

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Elmer Fudd bouncing over here to get the.

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Speaker 2: Bugs bunny, but always in forever gokus, my friend.

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