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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Iconic Studio A Here at proven

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<v Speaker 1>winners color Choice shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>radio and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick Weist,

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<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, if I

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<v Speaker 1>had a dime for every time somebody asked me about

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<v Speaker 1>flower bulbs and the fact that they bought them in

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<v Speaker 1>fall left them in the trunk of their car or

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<v Speaker 1>in their garage, Now what do I do? Or if

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<v Speaker 1>I had a dime for every time somebody said to me, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's early spring and my bulbs are coming up. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to freeze? Cause we're going to get cold weather.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had a dime, I'd be a pretty rich guy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when people say bulbs, they're often referring to true bulbs

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<v Speaker 1>as well as corms, rhizomes, tubers. Bulbs are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a tagline in marketing. You know, you're not getting a tissue,

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<v Speaker 1>You're getting a kleenex, You're you know, nothing runs like

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<v Speaker 1>a deer. We know we're talking about tractors. It's a tagline.

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<v Speaker 1>They're bulbs, and the four big keys to success with

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<v Speaker 1>bulbs are well drained soil planting, depth and timing in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Oh and one other thing that is a

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<v Speaker 1>total pet peeve for me with bulbs. If you're purchasing

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<v Speaker 1>them and you're planting them bulbs, rhizomes, corms, tubers, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they may be. And let me mention that here in

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<v Speaker 1>the North, things like tubers and rhizomes or corms, we're

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<v Speaker 1>lifting them in the fall and we're putting them into storage.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannas and dahlias are a perfect example, or one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites, tuberous begonias. They're not really bulbs, they're tubers

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<v Speaker 1>or rhizomes, but we'll just loosely define them as bulbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the pet peas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say, let's not get off of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to miss out what this is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>dying over here.

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<v Speaker 1>The pet peeve is again. Having run a garden center

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<v Speaker 1>for years, the size of the bulb matters, and for

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<v Speaker 1>years I would sell only bulk bulbs because people love

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of rummage through the box and dig for

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<v Speaker 1>the bulbs. And for example, take a tulip bulb as

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<v Speaker 1>an example. I believe the tulip bulb should be twelve

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<v Speaker 1>centimeters in size or bigger in order to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good bloom for next spring. My pet peeve is when

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<v Speaker 1>they get put into fancy packages with colorful header cards,

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<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of effort is put into the header card.

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<v Speaker 1>But the size of that bulb, in my opinion, at

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<v Speaker 1>least from what I see out there, in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to lead to disappointment nextpert.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, so often in gardening, and definitely no

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<v Speaker 2>exception for bulbs, you get what you pay for, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And you may sit there thinking, oh, I'm getting such

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<v Speaker 2>a bargain. I saw them over at this place and

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<v Speaker 2>they were this much, and here it's the same amount,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they only cost this much, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting the bargain. Well, there is something that is being

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<v Speaker 2>made up there, and it is the size of the bulb,

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<v Speaker 2>because those bulbs are being raised in the Netherlands, and

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<v Speaker 2>most flower bulbs in the US are actually still imported

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<v Speaker 2>from the Netherlands. It is the capital of bulb production

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. You know, not everything is a top

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<v Speaker 2>grade bulb. There's some smaller bulbs, and they're not just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna throw those away. They're just going to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and sell them at a lower price to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>second tier retailers, and it's perfectly fine, but you just

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<v Speaker 2>need to know what to expect. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get the same results is if you're buying that top

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<v Speaker 2>grade bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. As a matter of fact, if you take a

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<v Speaker 1>bulb like a tulip bulb and you were to slice

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<v Speaker 1>it with a sharp knife length wise, you would see

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to call it embryo within the bulb,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's sitting there, and that is the promise of

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<v Speaker 1>spring sitting right there in your hands, and that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge when the conditions are right now. At the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of being pedantic, I'm using your word here, Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>at the risk of being pedantic, cooling the bulbs is

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<v Speaker 1>a confusing thing for people, but really, simply put, cooling

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the embryo from emerging at the wrong time, but

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<v Speaker 1>it also provides the opportunity for root formation for the bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>They'rein my case that the depth that you plant at,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the fact that the soil needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be well drained, is very very important because while that

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<v Speaker 1>bulb is resting throughout the winter, and we're talking here

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<v Speaker 1>about bulbs like daffodils or tulips, or hyacinths, crocus aliums,

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<v Speaker 1>any of those fall planted non tropical bulbs. They need

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to root. That's why when we force bulbs

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<v Speaker 1>and we say you need a cooling period, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about frozen soil. We don't want ice frozen soil.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about chilled soil. That is number one, going

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<v Speaker 1>to allow the bulb to prepare so that when the

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<v Speaker 1>temperatures are right and when the conditions are right, that

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<v Speaker 1>embryo is going to emerge in spring as a beautiful flower.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the key to understanding this really is to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the bulb you're interested in, look at where

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<v Speaker 2>it is native to, and look at the climate and

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<v Speaker 2>the terrain there, and that will give you so much

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<v Speaker 2>of a better idea of what you need to try

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<v Speaker 2>to replicate. And shoelips, daffodils, they're native to Central Asia,

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<v Speaker 2>the Near and Far East, and you know they just bake.

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<v Speaker 2>They just bake in rocky, sandy soils all summer. They

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<v Speaker 2>are not equipped to deal with wet, regularly watered perennial beds.

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<v Speaker 2>Eggs where so many people want to plant, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't plant from there. You can, It's just

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<v Speaker 2>you have to know you're only going to have probably

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<v Speaker 2>a one year display because otherwise the bulb is going

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<v Speaker 2>to rot as you keep your flowers going. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>such an interesting way to do your research and to

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<v Speaker 2>understand how you're growing your plants is to really take

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<v Speaker 2>it back to that area and learn what you can

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<v Speaker 2>and then again do your best to replicate it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point to where they are native, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings up the point for all our Southern listeners and viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the game here too. Number one. My son

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<v Speaker 1>worked for quite a bit of time in Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw tulips do magnificent in Tennessee. But even further

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<v Speaker 1>south there are tropical and subtropical bulbs that would grow

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<v Speaker 1>well in the South or in Florida. I think of agapanthus.

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<v Speaker 1>I grow that here in Michigan, also known as lily

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<v Speaker 1>of the Nile. It's native to South Africa. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you have cannas, kala lilies, elephant ear, Colocacia esculenta. Alocasia's

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<v Speaker 1>kalladiums are wonderful, wonderful plants for warm climates. Eucumus, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pineapple lily, eucharis amazon lily, and of course, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>this one always trips me up. But it's zephyra anthees,

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<v Speaker 1>zephyr anthes grand a floor, the rain lily when it

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<v Speaker 1>rains in the south, and all of a sudden, these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful amaryllis like blooms up here. It's really cool to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Right And you know, if you're sitting there going whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like a lot of information and I'm already

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<v Speaker 2>confused about bulbs. Don't worry. All you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>is shop locally, because if you are going to your

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<v Speaker 2>local garden center, all of the bulbs that you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be seeing for sale right now in your

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<v Speaker 2>garden center in fault are going to be the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that you should plant.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, so you enjoy in spring, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the bulbs that just listed will make

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<v Speaker 2>a resurgence in spring to be planted imediately and then

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<v Speaker 2>go on to bloom in summer. So you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about knowing all of this. All of these

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<v Speaker 2>are different types of bulbs and corms, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>these are the kinds of plants that have a dormant

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<v Speaker 2>period where all their energy is stored into that fleshy,

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<v Speaker 2>energy packed potato like structure, and they grow and then

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<v Speaker 2>they go dormant again, and all of this combines to

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<v Speaker 2>make them, in my opinion, some of the most rewarding,

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<v Speaker 2>easiest to grow plants. I mean, I've said it already

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but I'm going to say it again. You

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<v Speaker 2>never regret planting bulbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm glad you brought that up, because we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about marketing taglines for the Netherlands Bulb Institute or that organization.

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<v Speaker 1>For a long time they had the tagline dig Drop Done.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that, so you know, and I like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great also to your point, Stacy, about

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<v Speaker 1>the bulbs that you find in stores wherever you live

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<v Speaker 1>at this time of the year. Great example of that

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<v Speaker 1>is freezi's now cut flower gardening is very, very popular,

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<v Speaker 1>and we love freezias. In the deep South Florida, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be planting freezias and find them in fall,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas here in the north or Midwest, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find those in garden centers in spring and would be

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<v Speaker 1>planting them in spring. So freezias are a good example

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Also, here's a little limb a rick for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bulb planting time. Whoopee, use your tulips and speak

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<v Speaker 1>to me. They'll sleep in the ground and then spring

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<v Speaker 1>will abound with blooms. I guarantee, and they will, they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I do have to mention again that in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>when I planted bulbs, usually what I would do is

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<v Speaker 1>have some old screens around, and after I planted them

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<v Speaker 1>backfilled the soil. I'd throw the screens on the soil

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<v Speaker 1>to keep squirrels from digging because they see that freshly

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<v Speaker 1>dug soil. But you're better off using chicken wire digging

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<v Speaker 1>your hole, putting the chicken wire in plant the bulbs,

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<v Speaker 1>peel the rather wrap the chicken wire around the bulbs,

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<v Speaker 1>then fill with soil. That will work well for you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're planting.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have that issue. You know, surprisingly, despite having

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<v Speaker 2>a number of squirrels in walnut trees around my neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't typically have a huge issue with squirrels digging

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<v Speaker 2>them up. Now when things come up, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>another issue. I have long since given up growing tulips

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<v Speaker 2>living surrounded by deer. But yeah, that's I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>an easy way to make sure that they don't dig

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<v Speaker 2>them up and mess with them, because you know they're

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<v Speaker 2>probably like, hey, another squirrel buried a walnut around here,

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<v Speaker 2>I better get that walnut. Oh crap, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>But they'll eat them in it.

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<v Speaker 2>But they will potentially eat them anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, a couple of other quick things. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as deer resistance is concerned, remember iris, daffodils, aliums,

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<v Speaker 1>fritile area. They're great, they're beautiful, and the deer tend

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<v Speaker 1>to leave them alone. Also, I love to naturalize with

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<v Speaker 1>bulbs and drifts and grow them through groundcovers. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a groundcover of sweet woodruffer, let's say this

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<v Speaker 1>fall you plant some pansies that will be blooming next spring.

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<v Speaker 1>Plant those bulbs right in with those groundcovers, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when they grow through them in spring, they'll be really pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll be gorgeous, you bet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's find out what Stacy has on her mind for

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<v Speaker 1>plants on trial that's coming up next here on the

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<v Speaker 2>Prooven Winners Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. That's why we trial and test all of

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<v Speaker 2>our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they

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<v Speaker 2>outperform everything else on the market. Look for them and

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<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center. Greeting's

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,

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<v Speaker 2>It could be anything from you know, animal related, pest related.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like a real pain. So anyway, whatever you're

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<v Speaker 2>We would love to hear from you. Now, before I

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<v Speaker 2>to say something. My pet peeve about bulbs, okay, is quantity?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because you like go out, you buy a

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<v Speaker 2>package of bulbs and you're like, whoa twenty five bulbs?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that scares some people away and not

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<v Speaker 2>and it shouldn't it shouldn't. This is not like I

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<v Speaker 2>show up to your house and say, here's twenty five shrubs.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to find spots for them and plant them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like that. Bulbs are very easy to fit

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<v Speaker 2>in anywhere. And I will tell you what I have

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<v Speaker 2>my own garden. I don't dig twenty five holes. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be ridiculous. Not only would it be more work

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<v Speaker 2>tiny flowers spread out over like you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>square feet, and that doesn't have the impact. So what

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<v Speaker 2>I do is I will dig one slightly larger hole,

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<v Speaker 2>Usually i'm looking for things. I tend personally to go

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<v Speaker 2>more with what's known as the minor bulbs, so smaller,

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<v Speaker 2>more unusual things. I do love daffodils. Those are bigger

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<v Speaker 2>and they need a lot more space. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>dig a lot deeper for them. But even if I

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<v Speaker 2>plant a daffodil, you know, I'll dig that hole for

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<v Speaker 2>the daffodils, put in some soil, and then just put

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of mixed minor bulbs, So that could be

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<v Speaker 2>great hyacinth, crocuses, kyona, doxa, pushkinia, I mean so many

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<v Speaker 2>different things. I'll just mix them all up and just

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<v Speaker 2>take a handful and PLoP it right in that hole.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as I've said before, like is too short

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<v Speaker 2>for proper spacing by and large, and that is no

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<v Speaker 2>more that's no more so true than with bulbs. So

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<v Speaker 2>don't be intimidated by that quantity. You know, there have

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<v Speaker 2>been many years where I have finished up planting bulbs

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<v Speaker 2>and said, okay, I planted about seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>bulbs this year, and that seems insane to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people. But it's actually a lot faster and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier. And as long as you are picking bulbs

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<v Speaker 2>that are appropriate for your area, that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>resist the challenges of your yard, whether that's moist soil

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<v Speaker 2>or deer or whatever, that little investment in time and

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<v Speaker 2>money will last two decades. Yes, you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those minor bulbs are great for naturalizing. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the look that I'm Mascari's snowdrops. You bet they'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep coming back year.

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<v Speaker 2>After year, So don't be intimidated by the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>bulbs are sold by multiples of twenty five. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to plant twenty five shrubs or perennials. Just

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<v Speaker 2>go for it. You will never regret planting bulbs. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>all that said, I do love bulbs. You and I

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<v Speaker 2>both love bulbs, but they do have one little liability,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course nothing's perfect, right, and the liability that

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<v Speaker 2>bulbs have is that they do not make their exit gracefully.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. They it's they're very easy to plant, they're

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to maintain, They require almost no work, and

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<v Speaker 2>they come up in spring and they look amazing. You

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<v Speaker 2>get that fresh growth of green right when the snow

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<v Speaker 2>starts to melt, and you're getting super psyched to see

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<v Speaker 2>your bulbs and they bloom and that was great. And

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<v Speaker 2>now all the rest of your garden is coming alive,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is that bulb foliage looking like that dog's

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast and it's yellow and streaky, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sad really, because you know, again, the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>garden is just starting to get going and is looking

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<v Speaker 2>fabulous and fresh and beautiful, and here's this foliage just

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<v Speaker 2>like no I'm gonna die now, And it's kind of depressing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you feel guilty chopping it back because you're told

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<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you shouldn't do that, and I have certainly seen

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<v Speaker 2>bulbs not come back. The reason that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>tolerate this long slope, painful death of the bulb foliage

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<v Speaker 2>is because all of that is photosynthesizing, and photosynthesizing is

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<v Speaker 2>making energy for the plant, and because bulbs do have

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<v Speaker 2>this very very short window in which they are actively growing,

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<v Speaker 2>they need that time to photosynthesize in that foliage translocate

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<v Speaker 2>all of the energy that they're making through the chlorophyll

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<v Speaker 2>in their leaves, and that's why they turn yellow. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's super crucial. Now, some bulbs can withstand it once

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<v Speaker 2>or twice, but if you were to repeatedly cut back

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<v Speaker 2>your bulbs every single year because you're like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>look at that yellow foliage, you will not have bulbs

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<v Speaker 2>for are very long. They really truly do need that period,

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<v Speaker 2>so you do have to to put up with it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the years, gardeners have found many interesting ways to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of deal with this little life ability ponytails. The

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<v Speaker 2>people will put them in a little ponytail, gather them

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<v Speaker 2>all up raiding famously, as Martha Stewart did, And those

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<v Speaker 2>are okay. First of all, I think their life is

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<v Speaker 2>too short to probably sit around braiding your daffodil foliage.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if you did want to do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the issue is that that hides a lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>photosynthetic surfaces from the sun so that they're not able

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<v Speaker 2>to fully, you know, make create all the energy that

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<v Speaker 2>they need through this process. So one thing that some

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<v Speaker 2>people do is pair their bulbs with a plant that

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<v Speaker 2>will kind of either grow up to cover the dying

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<v Speaker 2>foliage or distract from it. So daffodils and hostas are

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<v Speaker 2>two very popular choices for doing just that, because the

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<v Speaker 2>foliage is small when the bulbs are active, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not shading them out or anything like that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>as the bulb foliage starts to die back, their foliage

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<v Speaker 2>is really expanding. But I wanted to propose another idea,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is today's plant on trial. Cody fresh Drvilla

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<v Speaker 2>and so Durvilla is a native shrub North American native.

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<v Speaker 2>It's native here to Michigan. In fact, you find it

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<v Speaker 2>in many many places, but all over Mackinaw Island if

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<v Speaker 2>you are familiar with that, and it's a relatively plain

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<v Speaker 2>but tidy shrub. It has nice, high quality foliage. And

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<v Speaker 2>what we have been doing here at proven Winter's Color

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<v Speaker 2>Choice Shrubs with Durvilla is trying to capitalize on its

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<v Speaker 2>tendency to have some quite nice color, especially in its

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<v Speaker 2>new growth. And so we have been working with Durvilla

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<v Speaker 2>for a number of years now, and we have Kodiac

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<v Speaker 2>Red Durvilla, which has red foliage. We have Kodiak Orange,

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<v Speaker 2>which has orange. We have Kodiak Black which has nice

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful purple black foliage, and Kodiak Fresh is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a mix of most of these. So Kodiak Fresh Dravilla

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<v Speaker 2>has chartruse foliage that emerges in shades of red and

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<v Speaker 2>orange and yellow, and it just really lives up to

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<v Speaker 2>its name and has this pretty vivid fresh look. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to plant a Kodiak Orange or a

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<v Speaker 2>Kodiak Fresh Terravilla next to your bulb planting, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you would genuinely find that as this starts to

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<v Speaker 2>come out for spring, and it is so much more colorful,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it is not directly covering your bulb foliage.

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<v Speaker 2>It is easily distracting enough from them because it does

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<v Speaker 2>bring so much color and life that you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of forget about all of the sadness going on just

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<v Speaker 2>over there with your daff at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you call it dogs breakfast?

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<v Speaker 2>I called it the dog's breakfast, Yeah, because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I wouldn't mind so much, like if it happened now.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are some bulbs that actually put their foliage

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<v Speaker 2>out in fall, right and then go on to bloom

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<v Speaker 2>and spring. But you know, it's just kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>insulting that, like here's spring and everything's livening up, and

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<v Speaker 2>the bulbs are like, nope, I'm done. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a weird thing. So I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel I guess I kind I find it kind of depressing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Kodiak freshtervilla is a great way to

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<v Speaker 2>lighten up the area and forget about that dying foliage.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kodiak dur villas are so incredibly easy to grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, they are native. There are very very

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<v Speaker 2>durable shrubs. They kind of just grow as a natural

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<v Speaker 2>sort of rounded habit, so you can let them be,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you prefer to have something with a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more shape. They're very easy to trim and maintain into.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't want to put them into like a tight

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<v Speaker 2>shape like you would a boxwood, but you can easily

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<v Speaker 2>give it like a light trim to give it a

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<v Speaker 2>more rounded, sculpted shape. In summer, it puts out tons

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<v Speaker 2>of yellow flowers, and those attract native pollinators, especially bumblebees. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>one name that you might hear sometimes as a common

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<v Speaker 2>name for durvilla is bush honeysuckle. Now we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to use that term because it is not a honeysuckle,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course people think honeysuckle and they think wow, invasive,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they are in the same family. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry about CoDIAK dri villa's being invasive or

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<v Speaker 2>making a pestive themselves in your garden. They will tolerate

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<v Speaker 2>just about any soil. Kodiak fresh is hardy down to

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<v Speaker 2>USDA's own three. All aren't through USCA Zone eight. It

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<v Speaker 2>gets to be two to three feet tall and wide,

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<v Speaker 2>so again just a nice size for adding to your garden.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think much like bulbs, you won't

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<v Speaker 2>regard planting it because it's one of those plants that

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<v Speaker 2>really just looks fabulous without having to do anything to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the plant in my landscape and in summary, easy

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<v Speaker 1>to grow, and I love the fall color.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can see all the photos of it on

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<v Speaker 2>Gardening Simplified on air dot com of course, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching us on YouTube, you'll see them there, or

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<v Speaker 2>check us out on Instagram. We're going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>and conundrums. So if you want to reach us, we

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<v Speaker 2>Simplified on air dot com or just visit Gardening Simplified

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<v Speaker 2>on air dot com and there's a contact form where

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<v Speaker 2>you can send us your message. Now you have seen

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things come across your radar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, it doesn't have to be a question,

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<v Speaker 1>It can be a comment, it can be a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michio from Tokyo, Japan sent us a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>a hydrangea that she felt was interesting and unique. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is so the folks watching on YouTube you see

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll be able to see it on our website.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was very interesting and interesting looking hydrange

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what kind of you don't?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? What?

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a smooth hydrangea. Hydrangea are ok.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's flat?

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<v Speaker 2>No, and sometimes they do that. You know, there are

444
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<v Speaker 2>some that are much more mophead like, like Incredible, which

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<v Speaker 2>is available in Japan, and in fact, a number of

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<v Speaker 2>proven Winner's color choice shrubs are available in Japan. And

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<v Speaker 2>what's so funny about this? Of course, is that Japan

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<v Speaker 2>is like the hydrangic capital of the world. There are

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<v Speaker 2>so so many wonderful hydranges that are native to Japan, Taiwan, Korea,

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<v Speaker 2>and China, and the one that Michio has is a

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<v Speaker 2>North American native. So it's a true example of how

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<v Speaker 2>that grass is always green on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's probably why she found it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because it's so much different than although I have

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<v Speaker 2>to say, someone did send me a photo of off

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<v Speaker 2>of Instagram this week of some of our hydranges blooming

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<v Speaker 2>in a park in Japan, so it was invincible spirit

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<v Speaker 2>to Hydrangea and in Vinci beel we white hydrange of

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<v Speaker 2>both of which are available there. Blooming in a park

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<v Speaker 2>with Mount Fuji in the background, absolutely positively took my

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<v Speaker 2>breath away. So we will put a link or some

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<v Speaker 2>shots of that in the YouTube video so you don't

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<v Speaker 2>miss that and miss out on that opportunity to make

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<v Speaker 2>your yard look as fabulous as that is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Mitchell. We also have a picture a screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>from Wells Orchard here in West Michigan. It's a Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>post that they put up about their apple trees blooming.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Granny Smith apples. So there's apples on the trees, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's also blooms, which is crazy. And Michelle also sent

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<v Speaker 1>us two pictures from the Luddington area of apple blossoms

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<v Speaker 1>in bloom in the fall and lilacs in bloom. Crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have seen this before. I think it's triggered

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<v Speaker 1>by drought and heat. We've had a lot of drought

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<v Speaker 1>and heat in the Midwest in late summer September Stacy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that drought and heat can do two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one sometimes mess up fall color dominic Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>number two mess up the I don't know calendar or

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<v Speaker 1>cycle of spring blooming for some plants, and that in

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<v Speaker 1>itself also could at least diminish a few of the

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<v Speaker 1>bloom's next spring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. It is always very odd to see, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's certainly not unheard of. And it basically what it

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<v Speaker 2>means is that the plant has created flower buds without vernilization,

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<v Speaker 2>and vernilization just means that the plant has gone through

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<v Speaker 2>a cold period much like bulbs, and that's what triggers

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<v Speaker 2>the flowers to open. And so when we have a

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<v Speaker 2>reblooming shrub like we do, improven winters like the bloomerang

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<v Speaker 2>lilacs or lets dans hydrangs. The reason that those are reblooming,

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<v Speaker 2>or why they bloom on new wood as well as

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<v Speaker 2>on old wood, is because those new wood flowers don't

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<v Speaker 2>require vernalization. And so what's happened here is these plants

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<v Speaker 2>are blooming without somewhat without vernilization. They're not, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in full bloom and absolutely covered in flowers, just a

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<v Speaker 2>bit here and there, But it is not unheard of.

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<v Speaker 2>Always a little bit distressing, especially when it has been

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<v Speaker 2>as hot and as dry for as long as it

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<v Speaker 2>has been here. But nature does crazy things. What can

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<v Speaker 2>I say, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bet, carl Assis, Do I need to prune small shrubs

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<v Speaker 1>like arrowood, viburnum or nine bark to make them more

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<v Speaker 1>dense or will they take care of that on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>They were planted last year, so they're in their creep year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to listen to Stacy and not touch them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, now you know, I'm not a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>like needlessly pruning stuff just because you want to. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is true that pruning does make shrubs bushier. Every

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<v Speaker 2>time that you prune off the top of a plant,

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<v Speaker 2>it will branch out below that and you will get

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<v Speaker 2>greater bushiness. And I think as more and more people

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes purchase plants online, you're usually getting smaller plants. And when,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with shrubs, when you get a smaller shrub, the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time that a grower would have spent trimming

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<v Speaker 2>it and building it into a bigger and bushier and

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<v Speaker 2>more full shrub, that's not there to actually do that yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is totally fine. If you feel as though

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<v Speaker 2>they need, you know, a little bit more bushiness, go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and prune them. But do be aware that both

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<v Speaker 2>aerowood viburnum and nine bark bloom on old wood, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to see the flowers, you're gonna want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this after they bloom. If you don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about the flowers and you're just willing to sacrifice it

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, getting a nice full shrub, no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do it in spring with the aerowood viburnum, though,

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<v Speaker 2>do be aware that, of course, because that is a

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<v Speaker 2>flowering and fruiting shrub, that if you prune it after

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<v Speaker 2>it blooms, you will be removing the ability for it

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<v Speaker 2>to actually set fruit. But again, these are just esthetic considerations,

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<v Speaker 2>not plant health considerations, and you can safely prune these

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<v Speaker 2>back by up to half, even a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>if you need to. It's really going to depend on

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<v Speaker 2>the look that you're going for and what you're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with already.

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree waiting with the pruning, but go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and prune. I see no problem with doing that pruning. Stacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha sends us a long note here. She's from Zone

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<v Speaker 1>six A and I love this, Martha. Thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>mult She went out and got a soil test based

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<v Speaker 1>on our record.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I was so excited, so thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, Martha. That means a lot. It's good to

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<v Speaker 2>know that people are actually doing that. Even though Martha's

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<v Speaker 2>soil test results were maybe not quite ideal, it's still

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<v Speaker 2>good to know what you're dealing with. Because Martha found

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<v Speaker 2>out that her soil is a pH of seven point six,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>That's high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So anything above seven is alkaline or basic, anything

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<v Speaker 2>below seven is can it be acidic? Most plants prefer

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<v Speaker 2>soil on the acidic side because that is where the

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<v Speaker 2>most nutrients are available to them. She also found out

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<v Speaker 2>that her soil is very high in magnesium, which can

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<v Speaker 2>happen for a number of reasons. It can just be

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<v Speaker 2>your water. It can be due especially if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard water in your area. It can be due

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<v Speaker 2>to just the parent material or whatever rock formation it

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<v Speaker 2>was that your soil was created from. Can also be

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<v Speaker 2>created through the use of limestone if you were using

559
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<v Speaker 2>that to lower or to raise your pitch, which hopefully

560
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the case because if so, that was way overused

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<v Speaker 2>to get your soil up into at seven point six.

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<v Speaker 2>But the high magnesium is a concern because that can

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<v Speaker 2>induce deficiencies of other nutrients because it ties up the

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<v Speaker 2>plant's ability to take up other nutrients. But what Martha

565
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<v Speaker 2>is actually asking is, you know they gave her, they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>use this fertilizer three two zero, And she says, what

567
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<v Speaker 2>fertilizer should I use? And I have to say, Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>I have never seen a three two zero fertilizer for

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<v Speaker 2>sale in my life. So Extension, I'm sure is well

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<v Speaker 2>meaning and saying this would be the ideal fertilizer, But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that most consumers are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to find. You know, as a homeowner, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to find a fertilizer anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, definitely read the labels of the fertilizers

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<v Speaker 2>that are available at your gardens ter make sure they

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<v Speaker 2>do not contain magnesium, because some will have trace elements

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<v Speaker 2>or trace nutrients in them. So you're going to want

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<v Speaker 2>one that does not contain magnesium, so that you're sure

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<v Speaker 2>to not you know, increase that issue. But then Martha

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<v Speaker 2>goes on to ask, you know, so I'm sorry, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have an exact recommendation for you. They're just recommending

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the ideal, so get as close as you can,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the low potassium could resolve itself with

584
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<v Speaker 2>the magnesium going down, which it will in time because

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<v Speaker 2>magnesium does tie up potassium in the soil. So how

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<v Speaker 2>you'll apply that will depend. It will probably be a granular.

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<v Speaker 2>I would personally just broadcast that in probably late March myself,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you ask how Martha asks how soon can

589
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<v Speaker 2>she plant after the fertilizer has been applied, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, again, apply that in about late March when

591
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 2>your soil is starting to thaw. And if you give

592
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that probably two to three weeks for you know, rain

593
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<v Speaker 2>and everything to weather that fertilizer. I think think you

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<v Speaker 2>should be good to plant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, you know, the big issue here for me

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at this is the soil pH at

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<v Speaker 1>seven point six, and I would question it. Now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying, Martha that the test was not taken appropriately. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in our soil test show, we talked about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to take multiple samples, and the samples

601
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that you take are very very important to get a

602
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<v Speaker 1>good reading on the lawn. Seven point six is pretty high. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're comfortable that the soil test taken was done

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<v Speaker 1>with plenty of samples so that that's an accurate reading

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<v Speaker 1>of the soil, just make sure of that before you

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<v Speaker 1>start applying something like aluminum sulfate to try and bring

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<v Speaker 1>that pH down right.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I would also say that plants can

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<v Speaker 2>grow at a soil pH of seven point six. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, of course you're not going to be growing blueberries,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be growing rhododendrons and all of

612
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 2>those plants that we know loves. But overall, most plants

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty flexible in their pH as long as it's

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<v Speaker 2>not extreme. So like if you're in that six to

615
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<v Speaker 2>eight range, you can grow most plants now, if you

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<v Speaker 2>start to see nutrient deficiencies, you will know that those

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<v Speaker 2>are like yellowing foliage or unhealthy growth. You will know

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<v Speaker 2>that's a result of nutrients that are being tied up

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<v Speaker 2>at that pH level and that is something that can

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<v Speaker 2>easily be remedied with by applying fertilizer regularly and eventually

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<v Speaker 2>it will sort itself out. You know, that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>long term solution, but if you if you do want

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<v Speaker 2>to take that pH down, like Rick said, with aluminium sulfate,

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<v Speaker 2>you can use fertilizer on the plants that are showing

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<v Speaker 2>signs of that pH level issue. And of course, for

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in your gardens, steer clear of anything

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<v Speaker 2>that you know is notoriously acid loving. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a little break. When we come back, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a special guest, so you won't want to miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to The Gardening Simplified Show today for our

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<v Speaker 1>Branching News segment in interview with Jenny Rose Carrie. Jenny

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<v Speaker 1>Rose Carrie is a horticulturist, a speaker, and an author

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of books, Gloria Shade and The Ultimate Flower

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<v Speaker 1>Gardener's Guide. They're currently available for purchase through her website

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<v Speaker 1>Jennyrosecarrie dot com and Amazon. Jenny is working on a

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<v Speaker 1>new book on bulbs to release sometime in September twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Jenny, thanks so much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>The Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me. I'm likely to talk about whatever

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<v Speaker 3>we'll end up talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for all the work you do as a horticulturist,

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<v Speaker 1>a speaker, and an author. I follow you on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and you're the person with that icond of pink hat.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that come along? Every time I see you,

651
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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing that pink hat's what's the story behind that? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm very into colors altogether, and I have

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<v Speaker 3>had different phases over the course of my life. I

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<v Speaker 3>had a red phase and then a green phase, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a put of phase and you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>then each one of my family, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>two families choose their toothbrushes by color, and you you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, do you know what color your toothbrush is?

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<v Speaker 3>If you do, you're a color person, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it just won't do to have, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>yellow toothbrush, you know, and then you get muddled up.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was sort of like self preservation that I

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<v Speaker 3>always got my pink toothbrush and my pink hat and

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<v Speaker 3>my you know, I knew it was mine and no

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<v Speaker 3>one else was going to use it. But more to

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<v Speaker 3>the point, I love think it makes me happy, and

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<v Speaker 3>I try and encourage people to do the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>in their gardens, because if you are a color person,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, the color of your toothbrush, then you want

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<v Speaker 3>to go for you know, swaps of your favorite color

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<v Speaker 3>in the garden or accessories or benches, and they'll just

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<v Speaker 3>make you happy every time you go out to your garden.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. We we were talking on today's show about bulbs,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I personally have a real interest in

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<v Speaker 1>bulbs because my parents were from the Netherlands. They survived

676
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<v Speaker 1>the hunger winter of nineteen forty four forty five. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, my parents ate tulip bulbs to

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<v Speaker 1>stay alive during World War Two. I love bulbs because

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<v Speaker 1>there's such variety and they're so beautiful in our landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be that you feel people in general love

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<v Speaker 1>bulbs based on the fact that you're writing a book

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<v Speaker 1>about bulbs. Why do we love them so much? Jenny Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in England, as you can probably tell

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<v Speaker 3>from the accent, and I think we've been buying bolves

685
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<v Speaker 3>from the Netherlands for centuries now, you know, because you

686
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<v Speaker 3>do such a good job of producing them, and there

687
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 3>is just something special about them because you plant this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of anonymous brown package in the ground and then

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<v Speaker 3>you just like, oh when sometimes sometimes it all you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something will happen, but you go about your day, and

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<v Speaker 3>you go about your you know, next couple of months,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden you look back at

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<v Speaker 3>that spot and there's a green shoot, and then all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden there's an amazing colored flower popping out

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<v Speaker 3>of the ground. And it's sort of like, I don't know,

696
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<v Speaker 3>delayed gratification or something like that. But also it may

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<v Speaker 3>are just you know, they're in the moment. They're in

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<v Speaker 3>the moment. And one when you look at the daffodil,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's spring when you look at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>now in my garden, I say dahlia, but no one

701
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<v Speaker 3>can think that, you know, I can understand what dahlia

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<v Speaker 3>now right now, my you know, my cupping garden and

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<v Speaker 3>my varose gardens are four of dahlia's and I've got

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<v Speaker 3>two barrows out and I've got you know, all these things,

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<v Speaker 3>oh gladiolus. But I popped up on Instagram the other

706
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<v Speaker 3>day with a lovely white outside and a pink center,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, there's there's nothing quite like it for

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<v Speaker 3>just a real bloom power.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking to the season, I think, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>make a great point because especially nowadays, you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>we live in a kind of largely seasonless society. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get any type of produce anytime of the

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<v Speaker 2>year pretty much, and you know, you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>a florist and find flower out of season for almost anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, you don't really see daffodils out

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<v Speaker 2>of season, and you know, you don't really have these

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<v Speaker 2>other plants just popping up and they are one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things that truly are just completely rooted in the springtime.

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<v Speaker 3>Well or in their season. So you know, like dailias,

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<v Speaker 3>the best stalyi as you can get are in the autumn,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, summer into autumn, unless you fly them around

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<v Speaker 3>the world, you know, which we're trying not to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to grow local and use our flowers from

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<v Speaker 3>local you know, growers, and support them. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I am a very big proponent, and in all of

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<v Speaker 3>my books, I have sections where I divide up and

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<v Speaker 3>tell you these things are going to be in flower

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<v Speaker 3>at this season and they will go together like this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you put them in the same bed or adjacent

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<v Speaker 3>beds or adjacent pops, you know, these will combine well,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll flower at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Pick your tall one and your flat one and you're

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<v Speaker 3>run on all these things and then they'll look lovely together.

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<v Speaker 3>So I spend a lot of time encouraging seasonality, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in well produced as well, because like we have a

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<v Speaker 3>strawberry patch, and there's nothing like a fresh strawberry or

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<v Speaker 3>a fresh tomato tomato, you know, to make you understand

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<v Speaker 3>how to relish the moment and exact sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to me, if I buy strawberries all year round, then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, where's the joy in that. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like we are in such a rush and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much going on in the world that makes

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<v Speaker 3>us all anxious and everything like that to have these

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<v Speaker 3>little calming moments of our first you know, the first daffodil,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the first crotus, the first anything. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I really encourage people to plant them, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing like after the winter in particular, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>going outside there's still a chill in the air, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you just walk outside and you see just a

751
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<v Speaker 3>little touch of white or purple or yellow, and you're like, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the year is going to be okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready as the hope message. Really, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>We're being inspired by Jenny Rose Carey. She's a horticulturist, speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>and author. Jenny I always get a kick out of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we kind of loosely define a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these plants as bulbs, but in reality we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about corms and tubers and rhizomes and true bulbs. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it causes some confusion for people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I would agree, and I've spent a long time

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<v Speaker 3>thinking before I wrote the book about this. In the

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<v Speaker 3>gardening world, and for most gardeners, you call them all

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<v Speaker 3>bulbs because they are sort of brownish, maybe a bit

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<v Speaker 3>purple or cream, but they're you know, leaning towards the brown,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are, you know, a discreet like a little

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<v Speaker 3>plant in miniature and you can plant it in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the soil and up it comes and does its

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<v Speaker 3>own thing. So you know, they're all storage units. I

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<v Speaker 3>am a biologist, and my dad and uncle were all botanists,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we would debate about whether it was

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<v Speaker 3>a tuberous route. Oh no, it's not a tuberous route.

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<v Speaker 3>It must be a risomotous route, you know. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>most people couldn't give a hoot about whether it was

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<v Speaker 3>one or the other. So I've called them all bobs

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<v Speaker 3>in the text, I've you know, gone through you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what is a corm for those and those people at

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<v Speaker 3>once know otherwise you skip that bit because it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>smacks too much of bio one oh one, and you

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<v Speaker 3>move on and look at the pretty pictures. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've given you, I've given it to you. In the book.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not you know, you don't have to. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel like I have to belabor the point because

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<v Speaker 3>they they whatever they do, the plant has figured out

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<v Speaker 3>that it is a wonderful way to get through in

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<v Speaker 3>clement weather. So they all have the same function. Whether

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<v Speaker 3>they are summer dormant or winter dormant, they are all

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<v Speaker 3>a coping mechanism for getting that plant through the time,

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<v Speaker 3>either of hot and dry or cold weather, and then

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<v Speaker 3>allowing it to pop up at the right season of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. So you know, it's a storage unit when

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<v Speaker 3>it boils down to it and what was inside it,

792
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, is less relevant to us than it is

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<v Speaker 3>to the plant.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, and that's well said, really well said.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I personally have coping mechanisms to get through

796
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.039
<v Speaker 1>winter this season that I really don't care all that

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<v Speaker 1>much for. But Jenny, a question for you. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>writing this book on Bob's going to be released in

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty twenty five. Jenny has a couple of other books,

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<v Speaker 1>Gloria Shade and The Ultimate Flower Gardener's Guide. Ask you

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<v Speaker 1>an unfair question. So you're working on the bulb book,

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<v Speaker 1>give me two bulbs that are absolute favorites of yours

803
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<v Speaker 1>that you must have in your garden, regardless of what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have these two. Share those with our

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<v Speaker 1>viewers and listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, can I have three?

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<v Speaker 1>You can have three bonus down.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a negotiator, okay, I like it. So the one

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<v Speaker 3>that gets me through like the winter months, because I'm

810
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<v Speaker 3>like you, I really am not a winter plan. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so the one I that starts blooming for

812
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<v Speaker 3>me around Thanksgiving not the same bulb itself, but different

813
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<v Speaker 3>ones within the snowdrop genus. So that's the genus Galantus

814
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<v Speaker 3>snow drops. And if you live in the at south,

815
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<v Speaker 3>then you might grow snow flakes which are very similar.

816
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<v Speaker 3>They're white and dangly. So they get me through the winter.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have set about whether it has one green dot,

818
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<v Speaker 3>two green dots, you know, you know, whether it's a double,

819
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<v Speaker 3>whether it's a single, loose sort of things, and that

820
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<v Speaker 3>keeps me going through the winter. And then the daffodils

821
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<v Speaker 3>are a real favorite because no deer eat them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>no rabbits eat them. And you know, I have a

823
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<v Speaker 3>lot of wildlife in my garden because my garden for

824
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<v Speaker 3>wildlife and they come in such a great diversity that

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<v Speaker 3>there's something for every garden, and there's some that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like cold weather better and some that do well in

827
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<v Speaker 3>warm weather, like the tazettas. So I can obsess about

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00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 3>daffodils because I get my first daffodil out usually January

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00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 3>or February, and then the last one in May, so

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00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 3>that gives me a good few months for that, and

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<v Speaker 3>so that would get through that bit of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I have to say my dahlias or dahlias

833
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<v Speaker 3>however you want to announce them that are in full

834
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.559
<v Speaker 3>bloom right now, because they're in bloom now and you

835
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<v Speaker 3>always want, well, you know, to obsess about what you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at this minute. And that really sends me right

837
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<v Speaker 3>through until we get a very hard frost. So they

838
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:24.679
<v Speaker 3>come out starting in usually August, I get my first one,

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<v Speaker 3>and then really through September is the peak, and then

840
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<v Speaker 3>into October if I'm lucky. So that gives me a

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<v Speaker 3>good eight weeks probably of bloom, if not more of

842
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<v Speaker 3>you know, we don't get the frost. And again there's

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<v Speaker 3>one for cutting. There's low growing ones that people are

844
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<v Speaker 3>growing more as an edging in a display garden. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I love the cutting ones because I've got

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<v Speaker 3>You won't believe how tall they are this year. I

847
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know why because we had no rain, but they are.

848
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I would say I've got eight foot nine foot talls Daly.

849
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<v Speaker 3>And you know how many blooms were on. I really

850
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<v Speaker 3>should put some up on Instagram, but it's you know,

851
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 3>there's so many things in bloom. We had garden tours

852
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 3>this weekend. We had one hundred and thirty five people

853
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<v Speaker 3>through on a tour on Sunday, group yesterday, another group

854
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<v Speaker 3>last week. And I really enjoy this time of year

855
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 3>because there's just so many flowers out. All the ass

856
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.960
<v Speaker 3>were everything is out, yes, just for a rain. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's my three. Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Having worked in garden centers my entire life, Jenny,

859
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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that I see bulbs as the

860
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>ultimate impulse buy. People buy them impulsively. They don't have

861
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a shopping list with them. I think that's why the

862
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 1>colorful pictures are so important, as opposed to buying a

863
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 1>candy bar or some garden gloves. At checkout, people will

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<v Speaker 1>pick up a package of bulbs, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what keeps it going.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's a good that's a good way

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<v Speaker 3>to look at it. But also think about how much

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<v Speaker 3>better it is than a candy bar, because if you

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<v Speaker 3>want a perennial bulb like a daffodil, that will come

870
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 3>up four years, and if you choose one that's really

871
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 3>adapted to your conditions, it will be generations. I have

872
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<v Speaker 3>daffodils in my garden that were in my husband's great

873
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 3>grandmother's garden that we've that and so, you know, a

874
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 3>candy bar here and there, as much as I love

875
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 3>my candy bars, but you know something else, if you

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00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 3>find the ones that really suit your growing conditions, you

877
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 3>can dig and divide them after a few years and

878
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 3>make you know, three clumps instead of one, and give

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00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 3>one to a friend. And that's the other thing. They're

880
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 3>so rewarding, because even the things like the dahlias, if

881
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 3>they do well for you and you can figure out

882
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<v Speaker 3>how to overwinter in which I've put all of us

883
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<v Speaker 3>in the book, all the tips and tricks that I've

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<v Speaker 3>learned over the years. Or if you decide not to

885
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 3>owe with them, that's fine because of treatment as an annual,

886
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.639
<v Speaker 3>but if you do dig them up and divide them

887
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<v Speaker 3>you know, usually from one plump, you get two or

888
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<v Speaker 3>three plumps and then you can share with a friend,

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<v Speaker 3>and the sharing with a friend is always the fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitch. Well, I can tell you I have difficulty resisting

891
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<v Speaker 1>the candy bar at checkout. I do my best, but

892
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<v Speaker 1>I can't resist a good package of bulbs. Her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jenny Rose Carrie. She is a horticulturist, speaker and

894
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<v Speaker 1>author Just a Delight. Look for at Jenny Rosecarrie dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Look for books also on Amazon Jenny, good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>the bulb book. We look forward to seeing it in

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<v Speaker 1>September of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you so much. It's been fun talking with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and anytime you want to talk gardening, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>I love to do. So thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, well Rick for a moment there, I thought that

903
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<v Speaker 2>you were going to say that you can't resist a canna,

904
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<v Speaker 2>not a candy bar, and I know both things are true.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much to Jenny for your time

906
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<v Speaker 2>and expertise. Thank you Rick, thank you Adriana, and thanks

907
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<v Speaker 2>so much to all of you. We hope you have

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful week ahead.
