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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app Number one. I'm really sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>having you smell my pants. I just it was overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>to me that they smelled like China, and they because

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<v Speaker 1>they are new pants and I didn't wash them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted you to know that that was the smell

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<v Speaker 1>of my pants. It wasn't just me. It all didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out right. And I feel awful about it about

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<v Speaker 1>forcing you to smell my pants.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sorry. I don't even know where to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have other things to get to, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to make you extremely happy. The second

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<v Speaker 1>thing to get to is was the woman in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the road holding the Bible verse sign when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Arrived to work today? No, she was not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a woman in the middle of the crosswalk.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a green light. I'm headed into the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in the middle of the crosswalk in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I stop. She's holding a big poster board that

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<v Speaker 1>says Isaiah forty one to ten. It was important enough

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<v Speaker 1>for her to risk her life, so I looked up

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible verse and it's a good one Isaiah forty

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<v Speaker 1>one ten Old Testament stuff. So do not fear I

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<v Speaker 1>am with you. Do not be dismayed, for I am

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<v Speaker 1>your God. I will strengthen you and help you. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>don't fear. God's with you all the time. Don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that anxiety. Don't worry about that fear. God is

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<v Speaker 1>right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought that that was a pretty good message

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<v Speaker 1>to risk your life for, right out of the gate

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<v Speaker 1>here in Burbank in the eight o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if any part of this town needs it, it's Burbank.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Well the fire, Oh you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>the fire. There was augh fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the third piece of housekeeping I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get to before I forgot was good news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Six of BTS's seven members have completed their mandatory military

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<v Speaker 1>service in South Korea, so the reunion is upon us.

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<v Speaker 1>The seventh member is lady to finish June twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the boys are back.

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<v Speaker 3>The boys are back, good, because I have tickets to

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<v Speaker 3>something of Theirs. Do you a show of Theirs?

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<v Speaker 4>Did?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they already have a schedule out?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>They've been planning this for a long time. Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 2>good at that. But aren't you excited? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you thought I would be used to all be

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<v Speaker 1>all about bts.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I've had the life wrenched out of me in

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<v Speaker 3>the first nine minutes of this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a I'm a whull of my former self, a shell.

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<v Speaker 1>If really so me? Having you smell my pants, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ruined you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, there are going to be a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 3>from a lot of people about what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy King smelled my pants too. I also had Amy

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<v Speaker 1>King smell my pants, right. She was also smell like

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<v Speaker 1>China to me. Forced into she was forced into the

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<v Speaker 1>labor Yeah, labor. A little traumatized, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize to you as well. Amy, I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 2>your red pumps are just the bomb. Ya start telling

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<v Speaker 2>people to smell your shoes. I'm out. Just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out.

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<v Speaker 5>I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew

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<v Speaker 5>for downtown Los Angeles. So my message to you is,

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<v Speaker 5>if you do not live or work in downtown LA,

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<v Speaker 5>avoid the area. Law enforcement will arrest in the visuals

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<v Speaker 5>who break the curfew, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm curious as to what it was that forced

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<v Speaker 3>her hand on that. Why would we wait until Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>of all days to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because what we saw. I heard Mo

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it the other night. You know, the sun

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<v Speaker 1>goes down and the people that remain are not there

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<v Speaker 1>to protest anything of any substance. Sure they are the

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<v Speaker 1>people there to cause harm, the people there for no good.

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<v Speaker 1>The people there don't alute all the violence, all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that are not peace full protest that the country

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<v Speaker 1>was built on. I don't know why she waited so long,

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<v Speaker 1>other than that has been the approach for Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years when it comes to protest, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>the police response or otherwise, they give it a breathing room.

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<v Speaker 1>They give it breathing room, They give it a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to live its life before they come in. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the LAPD hold off a bit. They let

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<v Speaker 1>things get a little crazy, and then they move in.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to show up right away. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to make it look like a police state where

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<v Speaker 1>no one can protest as Americans. They give it a little,

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<v Speaker 1>they give it a minute, and that's what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>the curfew.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave it a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Should they have put it in the night before, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but they gave it a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>There were several arrests last night at the right after

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<v Speaker 3>eight o'clock when the curfew started. Things were very quiet

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<v Speaker 3>overnight because of that, and then at six am that

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<v Speaker 3>specific area around downtown was reopened for people. If you

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<v Speaker 3>live there, you're not subject to the curfew. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 3>can go home and if you work and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But basically it was an attempt to get those kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of people out of the downtown core so that they

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<v Speaker 3>could not continue to do damage.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved this article I read this morning in the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal about Gavin Newsom leaning into this. It

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<v Speaker 1>led me to get to the next topic. The first topic,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously is the protest. What's going on right now? Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the looting? Is there violence? How are we responding? But

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<v Speaker 1>the second story is who benefits from this and who

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<v Speaker 1>benefits more Trump. A lot of people would argue that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wants to make a spectacle of Los Angeles for

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<v Speaker 1>his own political gain which will turn into financial gain

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<v Speaker 1>or Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom has a lot to benefit

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<v Speaker 1>from being the name and the voice and the face

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<v Speaker 1>behind the resistance.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting because that was the mantle that Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to wear during the campaign, right, is that

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<v Speaker 3>she was going to be the face of anti Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>She was going to be the one that ran against

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<v Speaker 3>everything that he stood for. And whether it was her

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<v Speaker 3>personality that fell flat, her position as a campaigner that

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<v Speaker 3>fell flat, her ideals that just didn't support what everybody

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<v Speaker 3>wanted that fell flat, She didn't materialize.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not the face of the opposition. And well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the thing. It was weak stream with Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been week stream with Gavenusom, especially once you

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<v Speaker 1>get outside of California. What kind of gravitas, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of muscle does he have outside of California with the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party?

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<v Speaker 2>This is his chance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a make or break moment for Gavenusom

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<v Speaker 1>if he can show he's not weak stream, that he

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<v Speaker 1>has the balls to put behind this resistance to the administration.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the way he's going to run for president.

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<v Speaker 1>If he fails, if he comes out week stream, you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick of forking them. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>They referred to that address last night as a national

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<v Speaker 3>address from gavenusom.

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<v Speaker 4>We're no longer any checks and balances. Congress is nowhere

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<v Speaker 4>to be found. Speaker Johnson has completely abdicated that responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>The rule of law has increasingly been given way to

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<v Speaker 4>the rule.

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<v Speaker 3>Of don we'll talk more about his speech and leaning

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<v Speaker 3>into this leader of the opposition role that he's taken on.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we come back, Trump threatening anybody who protests

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<v Speaker 1>his military slash birthday parade this weekend with very big force,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about what that means.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>So the President this weekend is going to oversee military

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<v Speaker 3>parade planned for Washington, d C. To celebrate the army's

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fiftieth birthday, and in remarks from the

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<v Speaker 3>Oval Office before he left for North Carolina yesterday, he

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<v Speaker 3>said it's going to be an amazing day, saying that

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<v Speaker 3>any demonstrators would be met with would be met with

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<v Speaker 3>big force, and if.

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<v Speaker 6>There's any protester wants to come out, they won't be

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<v Speaker 6>met with very big force.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a problem because you can protest in this

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<v Speaker 1>country well all the time, whenever you want. You can protest,

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, what the country was built on. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if it gets violent, that is one thing. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a definite difference.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a line. That's a line.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of any protesters will be met with

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<v Speaker 1>big force, that's a problem in this country. If this

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<v Speaker 1>is not North Korea the last time I checked.

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<v Speaker 3>The good thing is, I mean the difference between what

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying and what the reality is on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>in an instance like that. I understand he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>control over DC Metropolitan Police Department, who would likely be

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<v Speaker 3>the ones handling security around a parade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I want us to move out of the

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<v Speaker 1>what he says and what he means world of speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've been doing that for ten years. For the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States to say that any protests

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<v Speaker 1>would be met with big force is a problem and

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<v Speaker 1>should be fixed or altered or tweaked. Somebody should go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and be like what he meant was if

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<v Speaker 1>there's violence and it will be met with big force.

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<v Speaker 3>So then they're doing the same thing that we are

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<v Speaker 3>trying to sure but.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they're doing it because they're officially his mouthpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>They said that.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously he was talking in the context of what we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen here in LA over the last couple of nights.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, those protests have spread to other cities.

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<v Speaker 3>In many cases they're small gatherings, but that there have

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<v Speaker 3>been arrests in places like Seattle and San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 3>San Antonio. The remarks he said. When he said those remarks,

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<v Speaker 3>he was in the Oval office. As I mentioned, he

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<v Speaker 3>was on his way to Fort Bragg for yesterday's big ceremony.

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<v Speaker 3>There are protests that have been planned for Saturday for

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<v Speaker 3>June fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about it. We talked about it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>The No King's Day Nationwide Day of Defiance has been

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<v Speaker 3>put to put together by a bunch of progressive groups.

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<v Speaker 3>They said originally this they were planned before anything up

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<v Speaker 3>and here in La. Said that they were intended to

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<v Speaker 3>draw attention away from the president and to reject corrupt

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<v Speaker 3>authoritarian politics in the United States. They have opted against

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<v Speaker 3>an event in Washington. By the way, at least the

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<v Speaker 3>groups that we're putting together the No King's Nationwide Day

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<v Speaker 3>of Defiance said they're not even going to bother with DC. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to me, shows a certain amount of intelligence, Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the opportunity to do what you plan, which

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<v Speaker 3>is to create what's the word diversion to draw attention away.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to do it by getting into a

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<v Speaker 3>fight with d C Metro police on the streets of Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem with these types of organizations now is

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<v Speaker 1>I hated that protest with the women and the hats.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even going to get into the name of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awful, but like that was a very large

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<v Speaker 1>protest to show opposition to Trump that did not get

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part. It was peaceful and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a showing. And I don't think there's anything wrong

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<v Speaker 1>Trump saying no protesting at all. At my birthday party

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<v Speaker 1>or else you know there's going to be heavy force.

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<v Speaker 1>That just that sounds like another country to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>to me, the fact that these protesters or the No

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<v Speaker 1>Kings people say that there's not going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>effort in DC, to me, what that says is that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have anybody signing up for this thing in

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say we're going to protest his birthday

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<v Speaker 1>party and then show up with twenty five people. You

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be the one hundred thousand in strength

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing. And if they don't have the people

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<v Speaker 1>then of course you're going to scrap plans.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also about this parade.

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<v Speaker 3>There is something interesting going on because of the way

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<v Speaker 3>the media has already said they're going to cover it.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, ABC News is going to do it on

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<v Speaker 3>their streaming service, the twenty four to seven streaming news channel.

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<v Speaker 3>NBC is going to do special coverage on NBC's news Now,

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<v Speaker 3>which is also their streaming outlet, and CBS. These are

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<v Speaker 3>the three major networks are going to cover the parade,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're going to do so on their streaming networks.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not breaking into regular programming, They're not doing any

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<v Speaker 3>sort of special programming in order to do it. Part

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason is it's Saturday afternoon. They make tons

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<v Speaker 3>of money on sporting events on Saturday and Sunday afternoons,

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<v Speaker 3>so this is not going to rise to the level

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<v Speaker 3>of getting the coverage from those major networks.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that with Trump, in terms of his

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to protesters, Mark Esper was really the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was like, all right, let's just pump the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to the use of military for any

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<v Speaker 3>Law enforcement is exactly anathema to what we believe in, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if Trump has that same mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, from what I've read, all the people the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Espers in the room have been shown the door, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's nobody left to be like, hey, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>He can't really has said the military into Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's part of the court fight that Gavin

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<v Speaker 3>Newsom has now instigated with the administration is to try

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out what can the president do when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to National Guard.

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<v Speaker 2>We're calling in the Marines and we'll talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later.

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<v Speaker 3>About that update, about where that case now stands and

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<v Speaker 3>what the future holds. Maybe there's a decision of some

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<v Speaker 3>kind later today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Newsom've got a little puppy slap yesterday afternoon, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that as well.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think when you retire you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to day games a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I do think I would too.

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<v Speaker 3>I have become spoiled because there are times when we

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<v Speaker 3>have the opportunity to go, for example, to the suite

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<v Speaker 3>and watch a game there, and that's always fun. It

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<v Speaker 3>allows a little more socialization during a game. If I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sitting down on the field, I don't like to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either, so it's a different experience for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Will we take a listener to the suite for an

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<v Speaker 1>award or an auction winning item or something. It's for

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<v Speaker 1>me not going to a ballgame. It is socialization with

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<v Speaker 1>a ballgame in the background. I want to watch baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to not talk. I want to hear the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch the game. I want to feel

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<v Speaker 1>the sun, see the grass, hear the bat, hear the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't talk to me. Yeah, I totally agree. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>beauty of baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's and it's a football.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to hear loudness and swearing and feel the

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<v Speaker 1>testosterone in my veins. Baseball I go for peace and serenity.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken up by bursts of activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, little little, little little heart heart rate rises.

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<v Speaker 2>Football. It's just three and a half hours constant. There.

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<v Speaker 3>You get about a twenty minute break in the middle,

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<v Speaker 3>but other than that, it's just hard charging the entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the other issues that's going on is the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration. At least according to documents obtained by Politico

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<v Speaker 3>and a report in The Washington Post, the administration is

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<v Speaker 3>planning to dramatically ramp up the use of Guantanamo Bay

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<v Speaker 3>once again. They said that they could starting this week,

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<v Speaker 3>transfer at least nine thousand people undocumented migrants to Guantanamo Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be an exponential increase from the five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>or so who have been held there off and on

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<v Speaker 3>since February. Of course, President Trump had announced in January

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<v Speaker 3>that he wanted to blow the dust off the old

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<v Speaker 3>GITMO and get some get that thing used again.

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<v Speaker 1>The official reason is to free up bedspace at detention

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<v Speaker 1>facilities on domestic American soil, but to use this facility,

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<v Speaker 1>which would also send another signal aim it's just doubling

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<v Speaker 1>and tripling down on deterring illegal immigration to the US.

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<v Speaker 1>You come here, you're caught. We're going to throw you

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<v Speaker 1>in Guantanamo Bay like a tearst.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the Yeah, that's the images that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be going to be talked about. They're about eight hundred

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<v Speaker 3>Europeans that are being considered for these transfers through Guantanamo Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to stay there, but this is a

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<v Speaker 3>place for them to reside until they can be taken

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<v Speaker 3>either to their country of origin or to some other US.

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<v Speaker 1>Diplomats are raising and waving their hands going wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Most European countries are allies.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that we're going to take these people and

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<v Speaker 1>throw them in Guantanamo Bay. What kind of message does

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<v Speaker 1>that send the people who have signed up to do

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<v Speaker 1>battle with US?

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, Yeah, friendly European nations think and the majority I

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<v Speaker 3>would assume the majority of the people from places like Britain, Italy, France, Germany.

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<v Speaker 3>Those people are not people who are smuggled into the

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<v Speaker 3>country in the back of a U haul van across

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<v Speaker 3>the Rio Grande. These are people who come here on

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<v Speaker 3>travel visas or student visas or work visas and overstay

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<v Speaker 2>They're still illegal, They're still here illegal. This is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a different kind of enforcement that they're looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>And the idea that they're going to ramp up these

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<v Speaker 3>transfers to get MO is going to cause some feathers

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<v Speaker 3>to be ruffled amongst our allies taking.

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<v Speaker 2>A hard line approach like they have been.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go back to Tom Holman's interview with John

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<v Speaker 1>you and let people know kind of a line of questioning,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom Holman's like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're here illegally, you have a problem. We'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you money.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll give you a thousand dollars whatever to get you

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<v Speaker 1>back home, but then you've got to stand in line,

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<v Speaker 1>go through all the paperwork, and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're here illegally for whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Reason, student visa lapse, nanny been here for ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of grant, you've got a problem. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very hard line approach, considering that we have

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<v Speaker 1>let this immigration issue fester forever. I mean, how long

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<v Speaker 1>have you been hit over the head with the term

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<v Speaker 1>comprehensive immigration reform, but yet nothing really has been done.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's been piecemeal solution here and there, and

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<v Speaker 3>Pushback, and we're seeing it and played out on our

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<v Speaker 2>All right. A lot of times your inbox is way too.

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<v Speaker 3>Full and you try to unsubscribe. In fact, just last week,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you were lamenting the fact that you unsubscribe.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it last week to you, I said, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Unsubscribe. I've said it numerous times. I love I'll sit

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so good. I'm like cleaning house. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I say, you do last week I go, huh, all

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<v Speaker 1>this unsubscribing I do? I keep getting like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you cut off one head, three other heads

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do that, we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>We are always flooded with emails every single day, one hundreds,

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<v Speaker 3>You go through and you try to clean up what

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<v Speaker 2>And almost all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of those, especially the commercial emails you get from makeup

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<v Speaker 3>companies or clothing companies or Amazon products that you buy,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a link down at the bottom that says you

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<v Speaker 3>can unsubscribe, or maybe it's managed your email choices. There

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<v Speaker 3>is concern that those unsubscribed links maybe taking advantage of how.

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<v Speaker 2>Trustworthy you are.

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<v Speaker 3>The lowest risk is that somebody has acquired your email

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<v Speaker 3>address and they're simply trying to see if you are

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<v Speaker 3>is to make you try to unsubscribe for something that awful.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awful, and then they, just like you said, end

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't this legal action at some point where they put

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<v Speaker 3>use for that site, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 2>That is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime I click unsubscribe and then they say enter your

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<v Speaker 1>email address to unsubscribe, I X out of that because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like that was enough of a trap.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is they say, if you start, if

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<v Speaker 3>you click on the unsubscribed link that's in the body

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<v Speaker 3>of the email, that might not even take you to

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<v Speaker 3>an unsubscribed not even a fake page. It just automatically

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<v Speaker 3>downloads about some malware to your computer gasters. So they

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<v Speaker 3>say the alternative option is your a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you used, if you use Outlook for your email,

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<v Speaker 3>if you use your phone, if you use Apple, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. There are a lot of times the the

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<v Speaker 3>list unsubscribe header that would be built into the button

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<v Speaker 3>a hyperlinked button in a mail service that doesn't appear

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<v Speaker 3>in the email itself. It's up on top, on the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are usually safe. Those are not very little risk

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<v Speaker 3>to those.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good because those are my favorite because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go hunting.

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<v Speaker 3>The other one is if that's not available and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the email out of a moving car, set

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<v Speaker 3>it on fire, set up a filter for the emails

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<v Speaker 3>that use that sender the one in question, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>it would send it straight on to spam, which then spam.

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<v Speaker 2>Your spam folder just gets choked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching that movie that I mistakenly went to

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend that I thought was a different movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out to be the Paul Rudd male friendship

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<v Speaker 1>dark comedy movie called Friendship, and at one point Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Rudd's character says, I don't I don't have a phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I have freedom, and I thought, damn, that sounds nice

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<v Speaker 1>not having a phone. Nobody can get a hold of you,

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<v Speaker 1>hold into anything, you have to look at anything. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to respond to emails or texts or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Hand it over. We'll see how you do for three hours. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you gotta you gotta cut off the you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>cut off the addiction to the phone before you can

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<v Speaker 1>feel the freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>But how freeing does that sound? I remember when I

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<v Speaker 2>used to here.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I used to travel, like internationally or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to pay extra, like ten dollars a day

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<v Speaker 1>to use your phone internationally, and I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for that, so I just didn't have a phone

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<v Speaker 1>when i'd travel and thought, God, this is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a phone. I don't have you have

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<v Speaker 2>to answer, but you just feel lighter. Yeah, ah, so

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<v Speaker 2>not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, you want my phone? See the problem with giving

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<v Speaker 1>you my phone is you know my password, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be trusted. That one time you breached my

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<v Speaker 1>trust and put a Facebook post on it was nine

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Well I remember, I forgive you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do remember, and you know my password, And what's to

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<v Speaker 1>stop you from doing that again?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We're going to break some news here,

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<v Speaker 2>oh Amy, you may have this. Brian Wilson from the

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<v Speaker 2>Beach Boys has passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, he had what did what was he dealing with?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not remember what he's all? I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot going on. There was a lot going

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<v Speaker 2>on there anyway, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Right up next the latest with the LA City Council

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<v Speaker 3>members going after the chief of police.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing? What can you do? What shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Monks is going to join us. You've been listening

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<v Speaker 3>to The Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear

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