WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:02.759 Boundless Authenticity Podcast. 2 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:08.400 Thanks for tuning in to Boundless Authenticity. A big thank 3 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:11.519 you to all our new subscribers and followers. If you're 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.839 not following the show yet, be sure to hit that 5 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:19.960 follow button right now. Boundless Authenticity is available on Spreaker, Spotify, Apple, Rumble, 6 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:23.440 and sometimes YouTube, of course when they're not censoring my ass. 7 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:27.000 I recommend using the Spreaker app because it's free and 8 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:29.359 there's no sign up needed. You just have to hit 9 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:33.479 play and enjoy. By subscribing, you'll get notified when new 10 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:36.280 episodes drop, and you'll help the show reach more listeners, 11 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:38.840 which obviously means we can bring on the guests that 12 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.039 you want to hear from. New episodes drop three times 13 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:45.560 a month, the sixth, the sixteenth, and the twenty sixth, 14 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.119 so mark your calendars. Today's guest is Justin l. Shaw. 15 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:54.000 He says he's a little bit deepok and part Tupac, 16 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.880 and we're about to find that out, honestly, and he's 17 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.280 all about healing with a healthy dose of humor. He's 18 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:06.079 a former stand up comedian turned spiritual guide at least 19 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:09.400 I think so. Justin's journey from heavy drug addiction to 20 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.760 emotional enlightenment is as crazy as it is inspiring. Drawing 21 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.519 from the Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous, Justin's own thirteen 22 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:22.760 Rungs of Sorcery don't just target drug and alcohol issues. 23 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:28.680 They tackle everything from phone addiction to soul sucking materialism because, 24 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:33.920 let's face it, spiritual bankruptcy can take many forms. So 25 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.519 if you're ready to laugh your way to a healthier soul, 26 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:41.799 Justin's got you covered. Justin, how's it going, great, man? 27 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:43.239 How are you? Yeah? 28 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:46.439 I'm doing good over here in sunny Barbados where it's 29 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:47.599 always steamy hot. 30 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.920 Yeah. Yeah, it's sunny Phoenix, Arizona where I'm at, and 31 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.079 it's a different kind of hot. It's sawn, not over 32 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:58.120 steam room here. 33 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:02.400 Yeah. Yeah, I've been there, so I know what you're 34 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:02.959 talking about. 35 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:03.920 Yeah. 36 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.040 Yeah, Well today's a more one for sure. 37 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:12.199 Yeah. So you were a former stand up comedian. Why'd 38 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:12.680 you stop? 39 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:19.479 Well? Good question. So I have suffered from all kinds 40 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:25.840 of mental slash emotional issues throughout my life, and you know, 41 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:29.319 they've all kind of all these things that I've been 42 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:34.120 through all have one kind of similar root, cause that's 43 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.439 branched all these different things for me, like ADHD, and 44 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.360 I've had depression issues and anxiety issues and substance abuse 45 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.800 issues and all these different branches, but it's one root cause, 46 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.840 like we went over, it's that spiritual bankruptcy. And I 47 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:52.520 stopped doing comedy because I just so I went. I 48 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:56.800 moved to LA from Phoenix after college just to pursue 49 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:58.360 a dream. I knew I was funny, I knew I 50 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:02.000 could make people laugh, so I would do comedy there, 51 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.719 just like in open mics, nothing major at all, just 52 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.120 open mics around the town. And but I was always 53 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:11.919 really high when I was doing it. Xana's in particular, 54 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.520 Opiate's just things that made me forget and get me 55 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:17.000 more loose, so I didn't have like panic attacks when 56 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.159 I hit the stage. So things got really out of 57 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:26.759 hand with drug addiction there, and I just I eventually 58 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:30.479 went to rehab out in California and got sober, and 59 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.719 then I tried to do stand up comedy without the drugs. 60 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:36.639 And although I felt funny, the panic attacks and the 61 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.639 anxiety and being in that scene that it's you know, 62 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:43.080 it's very much a scene that isn't too healthy for 63 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.240 those of us with substance abuse issues. There's a lot 64 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.599 of drinking and just that whole night club. I mean, 65 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.639 and you have to wait all day before you go 66 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.919 on stage, like it's just anxiety riddled and then the 67 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:56.719 panic attacks and the bad scene. I was just like, 68 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:59.840 this isn't this isn't for me. So I just kind 69 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:02.680 of gave it up and you know, put comedy in 70 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:07.039 my pocket and realizing that now, you know, I get 71 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.120 to reinvent the whole new thing, and you know, I'd 72 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:11.479 like to use this book to kind of become a 73 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.280 mystical comedian is what I call it. It's not a 74 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.120 thing until now hopefully, and do kind of stand up 75 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:21.920 philosophy and kind of kind of combine the two worlds 76 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.720 of comedy. I've I see a lot of my spiritual 77 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.560 leaders and teachers and you have your comedians, and I 78 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:29.600 don't see a lot of mixing in between the two. 79 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.360 And I found that, like, wow, I could really you know, 80 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:36.639 spirituality and trauma healing and it doesn't have to all 81 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.680 be serious. It's sometimes needs to be serious, but it 82 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.879 can be really fun and funny too. And so the 83 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.839 book I wrote is is there's it's just a it's 84 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.240 a cycling of laugh thing feel, you know, like I 85 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.879 had to keep the shattered concentration of generation TikTok. So 86 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.800 I knew, like I had to really keep people's attention, 87 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:58.720 and the comedy really keeps people's attention, like it really 88 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:00.560 like you know, you laugh and then you feel something 89 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.759 and think and then like so I just I really 90 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.639 I leaned on my skills a lot to write this book, 91 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.800 and I'm going to continue to lean on them, you know. 92 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:11.959 I hope to do lectures and things like that. This 93 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:13.959 is very much the beginning. The book's been out like 94 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.920 five weeks, and like, I have plans and visions for 95 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.800 the future, but right now, I just want to get 96 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.639 get that book out there and just let people know 97 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:23.839 who I am, and then hopefully maybe people will show 98 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:25.639 up and hear what I have to say. 99 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:31.600 Okay, so let's jump into the book's concept and the purpose. Really. 100 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:37.040 So the title of the book is sorcery one on one. 101 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:37.319 Is that? 102 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:37.560 Am I? 103 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:43.360 Right? Yeah? So stem wrong to higher elevation consciousness. 104 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:49.680 Yeah, yeah, So explain what sorcery means in this context 105 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.839 and how that connects to the idea of elevating your consciousness. 106 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.000 Yeah, so sorcery. Let's let's get this straight here. So 107 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:02.600 sorcery is spelled with you. So this isn't you know, 108 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:07.120 you can leave your footed robes and cauldrons in the 109 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:11.480 closet for now, and uh, you know, get your magic 110 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.920 wands out when you're doing your Harry Potter thing. This 111 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.000 is not Hogwarts. And I'm not Dumbledore. I'm not I'm 112 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.319 not that kind of a sorcerer, my sports sorceress. But 113 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:24.319 to the you, So we're using source energy, which is 114 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:26.319 where we all came from and where we're all going 115 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:32.639 to the energy that fills space to heal trauma and thrive, 116 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.920 to make heal and thrive. That's that's that's the two 117 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:41.040 key points that to sorcery. And I use that. So 118 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.240 it's kind of it's it's a it's a step by 119 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.600 step or rung by wrung guide to become a sorcerer 120 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:52.240 with a you. And so it is. And and I 121 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:54.199 kind of bird that I had all this stuff in 122 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:57.240 my head, you know, after a series of horrible events 123 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.879 and you know, things in my childhood and just all 124 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.480 the horrible things, and then in my adulthood, I had 125 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:04.160 a series of four years where just I had just 126 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:08.160 ten major things happened, you know, like major losses, of 127 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:11.319 all kinds of things and just this horrible cycle of 128 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.560 events that really brought me to my knees and I 129 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.879 and this this is kind of what was burned from it. 130 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.600 And I just I had all this stuff in my 131 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:22.959 head thinking like, I, you know, I could really help 132 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.160 people get through things. And I've learned so much, you know, 133 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.279 because I was in such pain. All all that made 134 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:30.399 me feel good during during my years of getting better 135 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:35.600 and and healing was just learning. And I've learned. I've 136 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:37.639 learned so much stuff that I had to think about, 137 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:41.439 how do I want to like organize this, and so 138 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:43.519 I thought about the twelve steps and so like, as 139 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.279 you know, here's a system of healing that like helps people. 140 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:51.000 But for me, there's a lot more that I needed 141 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.000 out of a that I did not get. And you know, 142 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.720 there's a there's a focus on sobriety and AA, but uh, 143 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.120 there's no focus on thriving. It's just gives people sober. 144 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.480 And and my problem was I became stagnant and I 145 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.639 was sober, and I was bored with my life, and 146 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.480 you know, so you know, something happens and then I 147 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:11.839 was already looking for an excuse to go back out 148 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:14.199 and drink and use because I was just bored with 149 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.000 AA because I was not thriving. I was just sober, 150 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:18.879 you know, I kind of got sober. I was like, 151 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.319 so now what you know? So there was just much 152 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:25.360 more to desired for this concept. And I knew that 153 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:29.800 AA kind of has this symptom discrimination of you know, 154 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.480 not only does AA, you know, like separate between drugs, 155 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:39.799 which originally the NA was an original that offshoot oft 156 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.000 AA because all the old timers and geezers didn't want 157 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:45.440 to hear the hippies talk about their drugs and they're 158 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.840 in their alcohol meetings without realizing first of all that 159 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.759 alcohol is absolutely a drug, and so they offshoot and 160 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:54.679 all these different you know, all the different drugs have 161 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.919 at different meetings, and everyone's separate and doing you know, 162 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.679 like no one wants to hear, you know, cocaine talked 163 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:02.960 about heroin meetings, all this prap, and and they you know, 164 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.919 they don't have meetings for a shopping addiction or a 165 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.879 phone addiction. They just recently started doing meetings from like gambling. 166 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.200 But it's all the same thing. So I started realizing, like, 167 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.679 this is all the same things. So I created the 168 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.399 system where it's runs so because I mean, moving forward 169 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.519 is good. Steps forward is good, but moving up is 170 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:22.240 better because you get a better perspective on things, Like 171 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:25.759 the bird has a better perspective on things than a worm. 172 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.840 So I rungs to get a higher elevation of consciousness. 173 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:35.120 So that's kind of where it all came from. And 174 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.200 is it's pretty it's pretty fun and exciting the whole 175 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:39.840 thing for sure. 176 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.559 That makes sense to me because I think a lot 177 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.840 of people get caught up in this fantastical idea of 178 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:54.480 what spirituality is that it should have a particular trajectory, 179 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.519 it should end up at a particular destination, it should 180 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:03.240 look at particular way, and then in reality, it's kind 181 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.840 of just like claiming a ladder, but maybe the ladder 182 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.639 is a little bit more than thirteen rungs because if 183 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.360 you're yeah, if you're coming up on something new, then 184 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.480 you're just kind of like ah, Jesus Christ, and then 185 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.279 you got to go up a little bit more and you're. 186 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:23.399 Like, ah, I can't see it yet, you know, so yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 187 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:24.799 that's yeah, it's it is. 188 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:29.480 It is a journey that it never ends. It's it's 189 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:31.759 kind of like having you know, you can't get to 190 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:36.799 the top of adverse without a sherpa. But spirituality is 191 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:40.639 different than climbing address because there is no summit to climb. 192 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:43.080 But I like to consider myself a spiritual shep because 193 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.399 what a sherpa does not do is put you on 194 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.879 his back and carry you to the to the to 195 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.320 the peak. And you know, surp is there to just 196 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.879 simply guide you along. It's your journey. He's just there 197 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.519 to guide you. But you also would get lost and 198 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:58.759 die on the way up to the top of average 199 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:01.919 without one. So I needed spiritual sharp but I found 200 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.159 lots of them. And now I was like, I want 201 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.840 to be one of those two. Right. 202 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.519 So with that point, why did you choose the number thirteen? 203 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:16.440 Ah, good point too, So that is extremely important. So 204 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.840 the number thirteen is so I came from a background 205 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.159 of very christian I found kind of Christianity when I 206 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:30.759 got sober and in my twenties, late twenties, and there 207 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.360 was a lot of false beliefs I had to overcome 208 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.679 that were really holding me back in my spiritual journey, 209 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.759 really holding me back. You know, I consider Christianity to 210 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.840 be this this amazing, beautiful mansion house that you see, 211 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.399 but it's built on this cracked foundation of judgment and fear. 212 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.279 So when I was living in my beautiful house of Christianity, 213 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.799 all of a sudden my mother fell it terminally ill 214 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.360 and it was bad, and so she ended up dying. 215 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:06.639 But her dying days were absolutely traumatic for me because 216 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.440 I had it programmed into me from my Christianity that 217 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.320 because my mother never went to church and she wasn't 218 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.600 a practicing Christian, that she was going to help. And 219 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:19.919 this made her dying days absolutely dread. Dread. Instead of 220 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:21.879 being kind of this shepherd of the next life that 221 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:24.600 I would be, I'd be super excited for like you know, 222 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:27.440 you're you're a glass of water getting pourn back into 223 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.200 the ocean bomb, you know, like it would have been 224 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:34.039 so different and so healing for me. Instead, I was 225 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.960 filled with dread and fear and and just was I was. 226 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.240 Probably she probably didn't even want me there, like my 227 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.879 energy was so bad. So after that whole thing, I 228 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:46.000 really started questioning my beliefs. And the whole point of 229 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.919 this thirteen to get back to it is because the 230 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.480 number thirteen is set in our culture to be unlucky, 231 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.159 and apparently it's kind of like a Christian thing. One 232 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.559 of the things is is that there were thirteen people 233 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:01.559 at the Last Supper and was considered the thirteenth person, 234 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.360 and so therefore thirteen is unlucky. So means absolutely nothing, 235 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.480 and for some reason that caught on and in society, 236 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.240 thirteen is extremely unlucky, to the point where we don't 237 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.399 have thirteenth floors and hotels like this is ridiculous. Thirteen 238 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.960 is actually a divine number. It is a number for 239 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:24.240 the divinity, and it's it's actually said to bring good 240 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.399 luck to those who embrace it. So I chose thirteen 241 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:32.240 very purposely in that one of the main concepts of 242 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.759 sorcery is to start questioning things that we believe that 243 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.759 might not be true, things that we hold truth that 244 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.039 might not be So the number thirteen kind of gets 245 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.519 that going. So, yeah, it was very important number thirteen. 246 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:53.279 Fair enough, all right, Well with that, then what's your 247 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:59.440 definition of higher elevated consciousness? And if you could just 248 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:02.799 well you explain that just bringing a moment from your 249 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:07.000 life that was like, okay, I'm going to have to 250 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:07.720 write this down. 251 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.120 Oh yeah, oh we can do that, yeah for sure. 252 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:18.120 So I I started, so, really, this is about four 253 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:23.360 years ago that I had my first experience that things 254 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:26.759 are not what they seemed to be and started really 255 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:30.720 like elevating myself and started let going of old false 256 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:35.879 beliefs and you know, letting spirit take over me and 257 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:40.799 elevate that consciousness. And it happened at the time I 258 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.279 was introduced to this shaman and he started working with 259 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.039 me on an individual level, and I got to introduce 260 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.279 some meditation. I'd always heard of meditation that tried it, 261 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.840 and it just I wasn't for that. The meditation stuff 262 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.240 wasn't for me, you know, like I just couldn't you know. 263 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.240 My mind was like my mind was like my web browser, 264 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.360 you know. I you know, four tabs opened and two 265 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.480 were frozen, and I had no idea where that music 266 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:04.720 was coming from, you know, like so it's just just 267 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:09.159 a mess of jumble mess in there. So I really 268 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.639 needed meditation, but I just gave up so quickly. So 269 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.879 he started really honing me into it, and it made 270 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:21.039 me realize the importance of this giving your mind a 271 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:25.679 break and how critical it is now. I mean, like 272 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.440 I do it every single day, But when I first 273 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:34.320 started doing it, it was very difficult and it didn't 274 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.919 seem very rewarding, but after after a while, I started 275 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.320 to get better at it. And it's just like, you know, 276 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.559 a lot of people understand the body better than the mind. 277 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:47.320 So it is much like going to the gym, where 278 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.639 when you haven't been to the gym your whole life, 279 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.480 and maybe you've been eating garbage and weigh three hundred pounds, 280 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.200 that first gym experience kind of sucks. But you after 281 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.679 repeated visits and keep going, you see yourself get stronger, 282 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:03.960 you see your body changing, and it gets more fun. 283 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.600 It starts to get you high, and you started lot 284 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.639 liking it, enjoying it. But it's only repeated visits, and 285 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.399 especially in the beginning, the first you know, especially month 286 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.279 really you know, because you're rewiring your brain and getting 287 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.559 everything you know, creating good habits. And that's what meditation 288 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:24.000 did for me. And I had an experience early on 289 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:28.480 in meditation where drug free, absolutely no no drugs. A 290 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.200 lot of people say this is the kind of experience 291 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.039 I hear people say when they talk about you know, 292 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.519 like mushrooms or keademene or something, and I had a 293 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.960 similar experience, but this there was I was completely drug free. 294 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.559 There was no no drugs at all. I think I 295 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:47.320 had coffee that morning. That was it. And so I 296 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:51.440 had this experience to where it was about three hours 297 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.279 and it was just it was like a it was 298 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:57.440 a bliss attack, like I've always had panic attacks, and 299 00:16:57.440 --> 00:16:59.000 like you can feel kind of an conset of a 300 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.480 panic attack, and and like the breathing heavy, and this 301 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:08.079 was like a bliss attack. And it was truly transformative. 302 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:12.279 And I just laid there on my bed, eyes open, 303 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:17.160 like just having this bliss attack in my mind. At 304 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:21.039 the same time realizing that I had been in airplane 305 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.359 mode my whole life. Like you know, airplane mode you 306 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.319 turn on your phone when you go on the plane 307 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:29.000 and it blocks all the messages, you know, like all 308 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.440 the calls and messages, and like you know, when you 309 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.559 get to your landing spoke, you turn off all the 310 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.559 messages come in. I felt like I had been on 311 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.279 airplane mode my whole life. So all these things that 312 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.160 all of a sudden I knew were true because they 313 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:46.319 were coming from my higher self, the outside outside of 314 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:51.480 the illusion. All these things started realizations started coming to 315 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.880 me and started uplifting me. And as I was feeling amazing, 316 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:58.119 and that's how I knew they were true because I 317 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.200 was just I was just getting this these ways is 318 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.519 of ecstasy that would just were incredible, and all these 319 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.160 thoughts that were like everything I thought in my life 320 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.160 was you know, with all these things I thought were true, 321 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.039 we're not true. And and there is a force in 322 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:16.680 the universe that is all around us at all times. 323 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.720 And and they say God is around us. But it's 324 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.480 it's it's different than that. It's I mean, science has 325 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.119 a name for it. Even it's dark matter, although I 326 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.319 don't like to think it sounds nefarious. I'm not a 327 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:29.240 big fan of that term dark matter. I feel like 328 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:34.799 I'm the dark matter. It's light matter. But it's it's 329 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:39.920 like it's it's it's like fish when you when you 330 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:41.759 go to fish and you ask them about the water 331 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.480 these swim in, They're gonna say what water, And it's 332 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:49.880 it's it's like that. And this experience was like it 333 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.839 was like a fish that's been living in a pond 334 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:55.279 its whole life, and all of a sudden it gets 335 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.880 caught by an angler and pulls out into this whole 336 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:03.200 new like majestic, stick insane reality. It didn't have any 337 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:08.119 idea existed, you know, like what is this? So that 338 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:12.440 is that's what it felt like, and that's what started 339 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:19.480 really my new healing journey, and and and just kept 340 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.440 going at like this is okay, I need I need 341 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:24.480 to chase this and more people need to know about 342 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:26.400 this because this is something that should be taught in schools. 343 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:28.920 There should be everyone needs to know about this. There 344 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.880 is a force that can be used for It's a 345 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.920 sea of information, the Kashik Field. It's everything that ever was, 346 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:36.920 it ever will be, and all this information is in 347 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.599 there and I tapped into it. I didn't write that 348 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:43.319 book with my brain. I tapped the brain is the 349 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.759 receiver and I tapped into something that is all around 350 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:50.720 us to write something that is well beyond what you 351 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:53.160 know a C plus college student could have ever wrote. 352 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:56.799 Like I mean, if you read this like it's I 353 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:59.079 read it, and I just I'm in shock. This came 354 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:01.200 out of me because I I was tapping into something 355 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:05.599 that wasn't me. So so yeah, it was not written 356 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:07.400 with the use of my brain. I was tapping into 357 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.000 something that force. The force the Star Wars Force. Star 358 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:13.920 Wars really explains it so perfectly. Obi Wan Kenobi says, 359 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.519 it's it's a it's a it's an energy field created 360 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:21.519 by all living creatures and it and it binds the 361 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:25.599 universe together and energizes us, and that's exactly what it is. 362 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.319 So I yeah, I found the force and that that 363 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.920 is what truly started me on my higher elevation of 364 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:34.000 consciousness journey. 365 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.319 Okay, so what do you think set pretty much sets 366 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:42.440 your book apart from other works that would be in 367 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:43.279 the same genre. 368 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.319 Well, it definitely humor big time. It also has a 369 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.519 you know, like with the humor it it has, I mean, 370 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.000 it has a lot of my It's kind of I'd 371 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.720 say it's the Secret meets the Four Agreements meets a 372 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:00.960 million Little Pieces if it were in by Jerry Seinfeld. 373 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.519 So it's it's got aspects of all kinds of things. 374 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:06.920 It's got aspects of my life that I have a 375 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.720 lot of really humorous stories in there from my times, 376 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:12.200 and I make them funny, but I make them relevant 377 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:15.599 to whatever I'm talking about. And I also use a 378 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.720 ton of pop culture. So I grew up part of 379 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:23.359 my childhood was rather neglectful, so emotionally wise, it just 380 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.200 was a very whole atmosphere and emotional vacuum that I 381 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:31.519 grew up in and I gravitated and globbed on towards 382 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:34.200 pop culture because that's what made me feel good. So I, 383 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:36.960 you know, all these movies from childhood, I'd watched eighties, 384 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.559 nineties and two thousands, and I'd watched them over and 385 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:41.920 over again. And you know, the music of that time 386 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.920 period and the movies and the shows and the video games, 387 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.920 and they're all extremely important to me. I'm a huge geek, 388 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:53.839 nerd whatever. So there's aspects of pop culture that I 389 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.519 bring into this that was already programmed into me that 390 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.799 is like, oh my gosh, I can mesh these two things. 391 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.039 And I mean I truly now believe and I and 392 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.960 I and I see the things that I grew up 393 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.240 on in a different light, like Star Wars, like Holy 394 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:10.240 they have they have it right the whole time. So 395 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:11.720 I see these things that I grew up on, I'm 396 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.519 able to like work them into the spiritual spirituality aspect. 397 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:19.599 So I just believe that that some of many of 398 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:24.440 life riddles are are hidden in the you know, the 399 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:26.400 answers to many vice ridles are hidden in the kind 400 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:28.400 of the nukes and crannies of pop culture. So I 401 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:35.039