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your support. Speaking of the two tiers of justice or

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two tiers in our society, moving from Britain, as we

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discussed in the last hour, we now arrive at our

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nation's capital, the Federal District of Columbia, where you may

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have heard this person referred to as the sub chucker

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or maybe the salami slinger. Federal prosecutors have somehow not

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been able to indict the subway sandwich thrower, Sean Charles Dunn,

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which I had always heard that you know you can

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you can indict a ham sandwich, which makes sense because

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if this one was salami, then you couldn't indict. That's

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I am curious as to how we know it's a

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salami sub like who went and checked on that do

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we know what condiments were used? I just I feel

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like that's like journalism one oh one. You go to

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the scene and unless it's like, you know, taped off

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with the crime scene, which I don't think it would

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have been, then you you go and you pick through

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the refuse of the sub right and you determine what

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kind of sub it was, because those are the details

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that really make a story come to life. So federal

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prosecutors have failed to obtain a felony indictment against a

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man who was seen on camera hurling a sandwich at

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a federal law enforcement official in the nation's capital. This

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is according to the Associated Press. Sean Charles Dunn was

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arrested on an assault charge after he threw a substyle

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sandwich at a Customs and Border Protection agent. A video

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of the incident went viral, and shortly after he was

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fired from the Justice Department, where he worked as an

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international affairs specialist in the department's Criminal Division. The case

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is one of the examples of the legal pushback to

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President Donald Trump's law enforcement surge in Washington that has

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led to more than a thousand arrests. Okay, let me

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just pause here. Legal pushback a grand jury refusing to

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indict a guy for assault on a federal official when

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it's caught on video and the guy apparently acknowledged that

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he did it, and you can't indict him. Okay, that's

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not legal pushback. That's ignoring the law. That jury engaged

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in a thing called jury nullification. It's what they did.

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And why would they do that? Because it's DC and

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they hate Donald Trump, and so therefore we're not going

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to indict this guy for assaulting a law enforcement officer

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with a foreign object. Because that's the thing, Like, you

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don't know what's in that sub. It was all wrapped up.

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He had just bought it. Right, that's how you know

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it's not Maga country. Like the attack on Juicy Smolley,

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when they were screaming it's Maga country, they didn't that

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the sub remained intact after the attack. Right, Smolay was

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able to take the sub home while he kept that

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like shoe string noose around his own neck. And you know,

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he took it home and ate the sub. See in

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Maga country, if you get attacked, but they you know,

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they have boundaries. They're not going to destroy your sub.

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But for a leftist Moon bat they will destroy your

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sub Hence you're not in mega country. Another tip that

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you're not in mega country is the fact that the

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jury won't indict somebody who is on video doing the

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thing that he is being charged with. So the AP

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calling it legal pushback is a whitewash. It's laundering the truth.

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It's it's so this way. If you have not seen

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the video, if you don't know anything about the story,

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and you're just reading this for the first time, you'd say, oh,

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legal pushback. Who's pushing back? It's the people on the

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grand jury. It is highly unus usual for grand jurors

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to refuse to return an indictment, and it was once

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said that prosecutors could persuade a grand jury to indict

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a ham sandwich. Again, this was Salami reportedly, so that

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that does not apply here. Grand jurors decide in secret

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proceedings whether there is enough evidence for an indictment, and

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prosecutors could go back to try again in this case.

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So again, these are secret proceedings. There's no defense presented,

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it's just the prosecutors. That's why they say a prosecutor

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can indict a ham sandwich is because the grand jury

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never hears any kind of counterclaims. All they hear is

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the prosecution laying out the evidence and saying this is

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what we're going for, and then the grand jury, like

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ninety nine percent of the time, they say, yeah, you

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got enough to charge and then work it out in trial.

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So they indict. And so what could the grand jury

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have seen or heard in this secret proceeding where they

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were left with not enough evidence when the whole thing

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is caught on video, the whole thing. No, this was nullification.

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This is actually an indictment. I mean, the grand jury

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did not indict Sean Dunn, but it indicted themselves. It

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indicted all of the people that make up the jury

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pool in Washington, DC. That's what they did with this decision.

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Dun's arrest came in one of the first days after

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Trump's August eleventh order for federal agents to flood Washington, DC.

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Authority Say Done approached a group of Customs and Border

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Patrol agents, pointed a finger in one of their faces,

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started screaming crazily at and swore at him, called them

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a fascist, said you're in my city. I don't want

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you in my city. Once again, not your city. You idiot.

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This isn't the only time, though. In another recent case,

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prosecutors acknowledged that three grand juries had voted separately against

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indicting a woman accused of assaulting an FBI agent outside

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the city's jail in July, where she was recording video

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of the transfer of inmates into the custody of ice.

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So the grand jury refused to indict those On three

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different grand juries made up of twenty three people a piece,

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they all refused to indict her. Yesterday, Scott Pischon, thirty three,

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was arrested on a charge that he spit on two

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Army National Guard members from South Carolina who were patrolling

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near Union Station. He faces a felony assault charge maximum

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prison sentence of eight years. I suspect he won't be

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indicted either by a grand jury in DC. And by

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the way, you spit on a cop, you spit on

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a law enforcement agent, like most jurisdictions drop the hammer

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on you for that because they don't know what you've got.

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Not to mention, it's pretty gross. I mean, it's just gross.

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So you spin on like you're spitting on National Guard members.

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So you get arrested, and now you got a jury

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that's gonna cut you loose. What do you think you're

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gonna get more of? Now? By comparison, you may be thinking, well,

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maybe these grand juries, maybe they're just always lenient to

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all defendants. Hah, they are not. They are not. Do

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you remember an incident some folks like to like to

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I don't understand what this even means. You're doing the

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same thing with this sandwich nonsense that Mary Mayor Lyles

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did with the Ukrainian girl's murder. I mean, that's just stupid.

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That is not at all what I've been doing. Mayor

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put out a six paragraph statement, mentioned the victim once,

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and then spent five paragraphs talking about how we failed

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her attacker. It's not even like it's a non sequitur.

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Doesn't even analogize to the sub chucker. Let's see. Dennis

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says this sets up that next time a troop gets

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spat upon, the perp could be getting an M four

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through his teeth justified response to an assault. Yeah. I mean,

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like that's the thing. When you don't police these types

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of things, you get more of them. When jury's engage

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in this nullification because of Orange Man Bad and we

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don't like the orange hitler or whatever. Then you're going

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to get more people behaving like that, and then you're

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going to get the reaction because now the troops and

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the people who are there CPB and everybody else that's

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there to help the local law enforcement, which is understaffed

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has been four years ever since Saint George Floyd in

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the defund the police movement. Now they're going to be like, well,

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no one's got my back. I'm not going to just

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stand here and get spit on. I'm just going to

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take the guy down right away. Maybe the sandwich hurled

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itself at the agent and then laid on the ground

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without moving to frame the sandwich owner. The grand jury

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is smart enough to see that. Oh, that would explain it.

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That might be it. Dave asks, do I think the

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next step in DC is martial law? I do not.

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They are in a supportive role with the Metro Police,

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and even the mayor came out yesterday and thanked Trump

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and said this has led to a reduction in crime,

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which is the same position to take. That is the rational, logical,

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sane thing to say. And I don't know why Democrats

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have such a hard time acknowledging that that, yes, a

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greater presence on the streets of law enforcement will act

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as a deterrent. In fact, I saw a video just

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this morning of a man, a black guy, who is

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recording and there's some guy in the middle of the

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road screaming and yelling at all of the officers. And

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there was a mix. There was some METROPD, there was

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some National guardsmen and stuff, so you had federal and

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local agents that were kind of stationed on the streets

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around the park. And some guy is just walking down

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the street screaming obscenities, making threats and all of this

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and acting all tough and everything. And finally, after about

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two or three minutes of him doing that, the cops

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all start walking towards him, and the guy takes off running,

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and the guy who is videotaping just starts laughing and

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he's encouraging the officers to take the guy down. He's like,

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this is like, this is why we have an unsafe city.

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It's because of fools like this, and so he's happy

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for the police presence. I've seen the videos of local

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residents driving through DC. They're like, I finally get to

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drive my car with the windows down because I couldn't

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do that for safety purposes. Okay, so let me see this.

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You know this helps better area code eight oh three.

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If you tell me your name so I can I

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can identify you better because otherwise it's just a list

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of names, list of numbers here that I see. I

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don't understand why you can't comprehend what I'm talking about. Mary.

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It's Mayor Lyles gave very minimal publicity to the murder

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of the Ukrainian girl on the transit line. You, on

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the other hand, are given a lot of time to

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this dumbass sandwich chucker. Yeah, because I haven't covered the

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Ukrainian girl's murder at all this week, like every freaking day.

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This is why I said, this is so stupid. It's look,

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we all say stupid things every now and again. Now granted,

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not all of them are immortalized in text messages and

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then read on the radio. That is true. But I

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do understand because I am on the radio, so I

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do understand what it means to say things that sometimes

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you may not wish to have said on the radio.

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I totally understand that I have spent a lot of

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time over the course of the last week since I

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got on the air on Monday, I've covered it every day.

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In fact, I have an update. It's the very next

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next topic that ties into this topic. But now I

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had spent all of this time trying to explain to

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you the actual importance of the grand jury not indicting

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something that is clearly against the law only for political

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reasons during nullification, and the connection here is that that

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which you accept, you get more of. I don't know

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why this is so difficult for you to understand, but

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it's okay. Look, I'm the professional communicator. If that is

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not obvious at this time, the connection with these stories,

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then I blame myself, Okay, because I'm the professional here,

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I should have communicated this better so you understand the

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connection that these two stories have. Bill Shipley, he has

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represented many many J six defendants, and he said, I

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had a J six client charged with throwing a potato

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chip bag. He so a J sixer threw a potato

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chip bag and got charged, got indicted. The refusal of

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DC grand juries to indict in at least two different

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cases involving assaults on officers that were captured on video

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now proves what I argued to judges in DC for

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three years, it is not possible for the J six

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defendants to get a fair jury trial in DC. There

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wasn't a single failure to indict J six defendants on

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video evidence. That is no different than these two cases.

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There was not a single jury acquittal of a J

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six defendant on all counts. He says, I came the closest.

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Though it was generally accepted that the conviction rate in

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DC jury trials prior to January sixth was around sixty

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five percent, which is one of the lowest of any

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federal district in the country, but the conviction rate for

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J six defendants that was one hundred percent. And that's

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why I advised every client I had to opt for

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a bench trial. It's now clear to me why the

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Biden DOJ decided to agree to these bench trials. They

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knew what it would look like to the rest of

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the country. If there was a one hundred percent conviction

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rate on five hundred plus jury trials, it would have

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etched in stone exactly what I was arguing. A J

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six defendant could not receive a fair jury trial in DC,

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so their constitutional right to a jury was denied to them.

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It's about a two tier justice system, a two tier society.

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three year old Arena Zarutska, the Ukrainian refugee who is

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stabbed to death and apparently there is video of this.

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The FOP president told Brett Jensen last night on his

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program that there is video. He has apparently seen it,

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and he said every city council member should watch that.

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I don't know if he wants to force them to

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watch it. I don't know if, but they should. They

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should see it. This is what people in your city

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are dealing with. And I know, like you go out

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into the community and you talk to people at various

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events and that sort of stuff, But unless you actually

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have any kind of personal experience with violent crime, you

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don't understand it. Just based off of the words people

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come down to the city council and they say things

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to you, like one did on Monday, and I've got

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that audio, and the reaction is always this sort of oh,

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I'm sorry that happened to you. And you know that's

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not us though, that's some other entity. You should take

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your complaint to them. So the Ukrainian community and Charlotte

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grieving the death of twenty three year old Arenas Routsco

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Police said was randomly stabbed to death Friday night in

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a light rail car at the Blue Line stop near

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West Boulevard and Camden Road. She came to Charlotte seeking

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safety after fleeing the war in Ukraine. The suspect, to

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Carlos Brown, remains hospitalized. Authority said he has a history

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of mental health issues. The City of Charlotte said that

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Professional Security Services or PSS, entered into a contract with

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CATS back in December to provide security. The firm was

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founded by former CMPD officers and is embedded across the

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cat's system. I don't know what that means though, I

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don't know how many officers they have. I don't know

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if it's on buses, trains at the stations. Don't know,

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the city said PSS. Is in charge of security and

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fair enforcement. That's fare so collection affairs, which, as I

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went over yesterday, a big problem with the CAT system

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is it does not enforce its borders, shall we say.

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It doesn't have turnstiles. It has a kiosk that you

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walk up to and get a ticket. Then you go

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on the train and it's not a very long route,

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and if you're able to jump off before somebody comes

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through and asks to see your ticket, well then you've

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ridden for free. And people can ride for free, and

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they do ride for free all day long, all through

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the night. And it's a problem not just from an

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economics standpoint, but also from a safety standpoint. Then there

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is a statement from the suspect's mother, and she spoke

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to wsoc's Hunter Saints. Joe Bruno gave a recap of

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her statement that appeared in Saints's story. She's not made

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making excuses for her son. She says what he did

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was atrocious, it was horrible, and it was wrong. She

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said that the point of her speaking is not to

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make her son out to be a victim, because he's not.

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She says she wanted to speak about the arrest to

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highlight how the system failed and things got to this point.

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He has not yet appeared before a judge. Police are

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largely quiet about the details of what happened, but his

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mom provided more context on how things escalated to this point.

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He served more than five years on an armed robbery charge,

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and when he was released from prison, his mother says

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he started saying weird things. She says she got Brown evaluated,

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but his behavior became aggressive, so she got an involuntary

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commitment order from the courts. He was placed under psychiatric

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monitoring for two weeks and diagnosed with schizophrenia. But after

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he was released, she says he became so aggressive she

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had to kick him out of the house and he

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became homeless. And she mentioned she and her husband had

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to kick him out of the house because I know

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there was questions about does he have a father or

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anything like that. That's when he becomes homeless. In January,

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he's arrested for misusing the nine to one to one

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system and the other day I gave you those details.

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Police say he called from a hospital and claimed somebody

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had given him some man made material quote unquote that

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controlled when he ate walked and talked. Despite his criminal

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past and his homelessness. Magistrate Teresa Stokes allowed him to

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be released from jail on a written promise to appear. See,

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this is the role of the magistrate, which is to

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make sure that you know set conditions that ensure that

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you come back for your appearance in court. Now, if

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you're a flight risk or something, or you're a menace

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to the community, then they can impose, you know, bond

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and bail and stuff like that. But for some reason,

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this person was essentially released on their own recognizance. In

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other words, Hey, you got to come back to court

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and I trust that you will come back to court,

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so I'm not going to put you under a bail

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condition in court last month on this charge. So he

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did show up to court. That's what the magistrate did.

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Like the magic let him go, has him with the

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promise that he will appear, and he did appear in court. Right,

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So it doesn't seem like the magistrate making that decision

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to make sure he shows up in court. It doesn't

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seem like that was the wrong decision to ensure he

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shows up. However, if you are a menace to the

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society around you, then maybe that would have been a

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condition to keep him in court, his public defender questioned

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his mental capacity. The judge in the case, Roy Wiggins,

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ordered a forensic evaluation. Brown's mother says that the court

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should have never let her son be out in the

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community knowing that he had mental health issues and previous arrests.

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And I agree with him. I agree with her, like

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you have a rap sheet that includes violent offenses and

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you've now been involuntarily committed by your family, and you've

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been diagnosed schizophrenic, and you're out on the street, you're aggressive, Like, yeah,

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red flags all over the place. Cmpd's community policing team

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was also well acquainted with the suspect. They encountered him

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three times last year and referred him to resources each time.

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CMPD has still not answered questions about what those resources are,

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and if he accepted any of them, if police have

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any recourse, if they keep encountering somebody who refuses help,

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and why Brown wasn't arrested if he was accused of

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criminal activity. By the way, Katz reportedly spends about fourteen

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million dollars for security. All Right, so you've heard me

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the Alzheimer's Association. The Walk to End Alzheimer's occurs in

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starting in September through October different locations all over the place,

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all over America. So they've got one in like every county.

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Liberty Park in Mooresville. There's also one Iredell and Lake

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Norman in October Gastonia on October eleventh, I'll be m

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seeing that walk, and then in Charlotte on the eighteenth

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of October, I'll be participating in that walk. And if

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you would like to join my team and walk with

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me and raise money for the Alzheimer's Association, you can

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do that by going to alz dot org slash Walk.

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And it's a really great event. We have a lot

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of you know, a lot of good moments. There's a

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ceremony at the beginning, and again if you want to

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walk with me and the team, you can do that.

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You just go to the website alz dot org slash

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and you show up and you walk with us. If

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you cannot make it to the event, or you don't

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want to walk, or you can't walk, that's fine. You

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can make a donation. We're trying to raise. Like I

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think I set the goal at five thousand. I did

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it a couple of weeks back. It's either five or

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six thousand, and we hit our goal last year, so

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I want to try to hit the goal again to

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this year. So if you can make a donation, we

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would very much appreciate it. Again, that's alz dot org

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slash walk. Let me go to the phones in chat

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with Susan. Hello, Susan, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey Pee, I heard your quoting of I believe they

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had fourteen dollars in secure excuse me, insecurity for cats.

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Speaker 1: That's what Yeah, that's what I've seen reported.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, my question is this, When the right

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the light rail first started, there was a lot of

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security on there because they had to make sure that

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everyone was paying their own way.

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Speaker 1: That's theoretically check. Yeah, and that's what this private contractor

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is supposed to be doing as well. Fair collection and security.

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Speaker 2: Oh, supposed to be good, nice joy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean, there was there did

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not appear to be obviously any security on that train.

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And it's not like we have this like massive fleet

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of trains, you know, so I like, maybe it was

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on a different train. Maybe there wasn't anybody on any

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train that night. I don't know, but a Friday night

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in South End seems like a it seems like a

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pretty you know, high priority for the light rail system,

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particularly when you build up an entire area of the

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city around that light rail that line, and you've encouraged

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all of the apartment buildings and all of the restaurants

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and bars to build there, and now they're there, and

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I don't think it's wise to then just abandon the

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train line security after you've invested all this effort to

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making that area boom.

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Speaker 2: It's just being funneled into somebody else's pocket.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I don't know. I mean, and maybe the

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fourteen million isn't enough. I don't know. If they're riding

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a round on buses, I don't know if they're uniformed

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officers or something, or if they are you know, like

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a TS or not. I guess TSA or the sky marshals. Right,

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maybe they're undercover. I don't know. I know nothing about

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their security system, and I would understand why they wouldn't

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want to divulge all of those details if they are

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doing undercover monitoring. But it's obviously there wasn't anybody on

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that train on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Night, right that girl would still be alive exactly.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, so, Susan, I appreciate the call, Thank you. I

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appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Take care.

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Speaker 1: Back to the WSOC TV story. Glenn Counts a long

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time cops and courts beat reporter guy. I've known Glenn

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for a very long time. He does very good work.

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In my opinion. You don't have to agree with me,

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but I think Glenn is a straight shooter. He spoke

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with Kimberly Best, a retired judge who presided over the

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mental health court. Did you know there's a mental health court? Okay?

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And she said, quote, it's broken and we've known that

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for a long time. Referring to the mental health system,

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she noted that the mental health system can only accommodate

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a select few, particularly those accused of serious offenses. She

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emphasized the need for societal change in addressing mental illness

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and the importance of funding mental health resources. Look I

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am perfectly willing to have a conversation about mental health resources.

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Here's my condition. Commitment has to be one of those

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topics of discussion, the ability of the courts to put

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somebody into involuntary commitment and to keep them there until

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the crisis quote unquote is over and they are then

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able to go back into the society. If that's part

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of the conversation, then I'm open to having it. But

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if you're just gonna tell me that we got to

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fund a bunch of non government organizations and nonprofits, then

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that's not a robust conversation in my mind. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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