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your support. Speaking of the two tiers of justice or
two tiers in our society, moving from Britain, as we
discussed in the last hour, we now arrive at our
nation's capital, the Federal District of Columbia, where you may
have heard this person referred to as the sub chucker
or maybe the salami slinger. Federal prosecutors have somehow not
been able to indict the subway sandwich thrower, Sean Charles Dunn,
which I had always heard that you know you can
you can indict a ham sandwich, which makes sense because
if this one was salami, then you couldn't indict. That's
I am curious as to how we know it's a
salami sub like who went and checked on that do
we know what condiments were used? I just I feel
like that's like journalism one oh one. You go to
the scene and unless it's like, you know, taped off
with the crime scene, which I don't think it would
have been, then you you go and you pick through
the refuse of the sub right and you determine what
kind of sub it was, because those are the details
that really make a story come to life. So federal
prosecutors have failed to obtain a felony indictment against a
man who was seen on camera hurling a sandwich at
a federal law enforcement official in the nation's capital. This
is according to the Associated Press. Sean Charles Dunn was
arrested on an assault charge after he threw a substyle
sandwich at a Customs and Border Protection agent. A video
of the incident went viral, and shortly after he was
fired from the Justice Department, where he worked as an
international affairs specialist in the department's Criminal Division. The case
is one of the examples of the legal pushback to
President Donald Trump's law enforcement surge in Washington that has
led to more than a thousand arrests. Okay, let me
just pause here. Legal pushback a grand jury refusing to
indict a guy for assault on a federal official when
it's caught on video and the guy apparently acknowledged that
he did it, and you can't indict him. Okay, that's
not legal pushback. That's ignoring the law. That jury engaged
in a thing called jury nullification. It's what they did.
And why would they do that? Because it's DC and
they hate Donald Trump, and so therefore we're not going
to indict this guy for assaulting a law enforcement officer
with a foreign object. Because that's the thing, Like, you
don't know what's in that sub. It was all wrapped up.
He had just bought it. Right, that's how you know
it's not Maga country. Like the attack on Juicy Smolley,
when they were screaming it's Maga country, they didn't that
the sub remained intact after the attack. Right, Smolay was
able to take the sub home while he kept that
like shoe string noose around his own neck. And you know,
he took it home and ate the sub. See in
Maga country, if you get attacked, but they you know,
they have boundaries. They're not going to destroy your sub.
But for a leftist Moon bat they will destroy your
sub Hence you're not in mega country. Another tip that
you're not in mega country is the fact that the
jury won't indict somebody who is on video doing the
thing that he is being charged with. So the AP
calling it legal pushback is a whitewash. It's laundering the truth.
It's it's so this way. If you have not seen
the video, if you don't know anything about the story,
and you're just reading this for the first time, you'd say, oh,
legal pushback. Who's pushing back? It's the people on the
grand jury. It is highly unus usual for grand jurors
to refuse to return an indictment, and it was once
said that prosecutors could persuade a grand jury to indict
a ham sandwich. Again, this was Salami reportedly, so that
that does not apply here. Grand jurors decide in secret
proceedings whether there is enough evidence for an indictment, and
prosecutors could go back to try again in this case.
So again, these are secret proceedings. There's no defense presented,
it's just the prosecutors. That's why they say a prosecutor
can indict a ham sandwich is because the grand jury
never hears any kind of counterclaims. All they hear is
the prosecution laying out the evidence and saying this is
what we're going for, and then the grand jury, like
ninety nine percent of the time, they say, yeah, you
got enough to charge and then work it out in trial.
So they indict. And so what could the grand jury
have seen or heard in this secret proceeding where they
were left with not enough evidence when the whole thing
is caught on video, the whole thing. No, this was nullification.
This is actually an indictment. I mean, the grand jury
did not indict Sean Dunn, but it indicted themselves. It
indicted all of the people that make up the jury
pool in Washington, DC. That's what they did with this decision.
Dun's arrest came in one of the first days after
Trump's August eleventh order for federal agents to flood Washington, DC.
Authority Say Done approached a group of Customs and Border
Patrol agents, pointed a finger in one of their faces,
started screaming crazily at and swore at him, called them
a fascist, said you're in my city. I don't want
you in my city. Once again, not your city. You idiot.
This isn't the only time, though. In another recent case,
prosecutors acknowledged that three grand juries had voted separately against
indicting a woman accused of assaulting an FBI agent outside
the city's jail in July, where she was recording video
of the transfer of inmates into the custody of ice.
So the grand jury refused to indict those On three
different grand juries made up of twenty three people a piece,
they all refused to indict her. Yesterday, Scott Pischon, thirty three,
was arrested on a charge that he spit on two
Army National Guard members from South Carolina who were patrolling
near Union Station. He faces a felony assault charge maximum
prison sentence of eight years. I suspect he won't be
indicted either by a grand jury in DC. And by
the way, you spit on a cop, you spit on
a law enforcement agent, like most jurisdictions drop the hammer
on you for that because they don't know what you've got.
Not to mention, it's pretty gross. I mean, it's just gross.
So you spin on like you're spitting on National Guard members.
So you get arrested, and now you got a jury
that's gonna cut you loose. What do you think you're
gonna get more of? Now? By comparison, you may be thinking, well,
maybe these grand juries, maybe they're just always lenient to
all defendants. Hah, they are not. They are not. Do
you remember an incident some folks like to like to
call J six You ever heard of this event? All right?
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I don't understand what this even means. You're doing the
same thing with this sandwich nonsense that Mary Mayor Lyles
did with the Ukrainian girl's murder. I mean, that's just stupid.
That is not at all what I've been doing. Mayor
put out a six paragraph statement, mentioned the victim once,
and then spent five paragraphs talking about how we failed
her attacker. It's not even like it's a non sequitur.
Doesn't even analogize to the sub chucker. Let's see. Dennis
says this sets up that next time a troop gets
spat upon, the perp could be getting an M four
through his teeth justified response to an assault. Yeah. I mean,
like that's the thing. When you don't police these types
of things, you get more of them. When jury's engage
in this nullification because of Orange Man Bad and we
don't like the orange hitler or whatever. Then you're going
to get more people behaving like that, and then you're
going to get the reaction because now the troops and
the people who are there CPB and everybody else that's
there to help the local law enforcement, which is understaffed
has been four years ever since Saint George Floyd in
the defund the police movement. Now they're going to be like, well,
no one's got my back. I'm not going to just
stand here and get spit on. I'm just going to
take the guy down right away. Maybe the sandwich hurled
itself at the agent and then laid on the ground
without moving to frame the sandwich owner. The grand jury
is smart enough to see that. Oh, that would explain it.
That might be it. Dave asks, do I think the
next step in DC is martial law? I do not.
They are in a supportive role with the Metro Police,
and even the mayor came out yesterday and thanked Trump
and said this has led to a reduction in crime,
which is the same position to take. That is the rational, logical,
sane thing to say. And I don't know why Democrats
have such a hard time acknowledging that that, yes, a
greater presence on the streets of law enforcement will act
as a deterrent. In fact, I saw a video just
this morning of a man, a black guy, who is
recording and there's some guy in the middle of the
road screaming and yelling at all of the officers. And
there was a mix. There was some METROPD, there was
some National guardsmen and stuff, so you had federal and
local agents that were kind of stationed on the streets
around the park. And some guy is just walking down
the street screaming obscenities, making threats and all of this
and acting all tough and everything. And finally, after about
two or three minutes of him doing that, the cops
all start walking towards him, and the guy takes off running,
and the guy who is videotaping just starts laughing and
he's encouraging the officers to take the guy down. He's like,
this is like, this is why we have an unsafe city.
It's because of fools like this, and so he's happy
for the police presence. I've seen the videos of local
residents driving through DC. They're like, I finally get to
drive my car with the windows down because I couldn't
do that for safety purposes. Okay, so let me see this.
You know this helps better area code eight oh three.
If you tell me your name so I can I
can identify you better because otherwise it's just a list
of names, list of numbers here that I see. I
don't understand why you can't comprehend what I'm talking about. Mary.
It's Mayor Lyles gave very minimal publicity to the murder
of the Ukrainian girl on the transit line. You, on
the other hand, are given a lot of time to
this dumbass sandwich chucker. Yeah, because I haven't covered the
Ukrainian girl's murder at all this week, like every freaking day.
This is why I said, this is so stupid. It's look,
we all say stupid things every now and again. Now granted,
not all of them are immortalized in text messages and
then read on the radio. That is true. But I
do understand because I am on the radio, so I
do understand what it means to say things that sometimes
you may not wish to have said on the radio.
I totally understand that I have spent a lot of
time over the course of the last week since I
got on the air on Monday, I've covered it every day.
In fact, I have an update. It's the very next
next topic that ties into this topic. But now I
had spent all of this time trying to explain to
you the actual importance of the grand jury not indicting
something that is clearly against the law only for political
reasons during nullification, and the connection here is that that
which you accept, you get more of. I don't know
why this is so difficult for you to understand, but
it's okay. Look, I'm the professional communicator. If that is
not obvious at this time, the connection with these stories,
then I blame myself, Okay, because I'm the professional here,
I should have communicated this better so you understand the
connection that these two stories have. Bill Shipley, he has
represented many many J six defendants, and he said, I
had a J six client charged with throwing a potato
chip bag. He so a J sixer threw a potato
chip bag and got charged, got indicted. The refusal of
DC grand juries to indict in at least two different
cases involving assaults on officers that were captured on video
now proves what I argued to judges in DC for
three years, it is not possible for the J six
defendants to get a fair jury trial in DC. There
wasn't a single failure to indict J six defendants on
video evidence. That is no different than these two cases.
There was not a single jury acquittal of a J
six defendant on all counts. He says, I came the closest.
Though it was generally accepted that the conviction rate in
DC jury trials prior to January sixth was around sixty
five percent, which is one of the lowest of any
federal district in the country, but the conviction rate for
J six defendants that was one hundred percent. And that's
why I advised every client I had to opt for
a bench trial. It's now clear to me why the
Biden DOJ decided to agree to these bench trials. They
knew what it would look like to the rest of
the country. If there was a one hundred percent conviction
rate on five hundred plus jury trials, it would have
etched in stone exactly what I was arguing. A J
six defendant could not receive a fair jury trial in DC,
so their constitutional right to a jury was denied to them.
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promised WSOCTV with the update on the murder of twenty
three year old Arena Zarutska, the Ukrainian refugee who is
stabbed to death and apparently there is video of this.
The FOP president told Brett Jensen last night on his
program that there is video. He has apparently seen it,
and he said every city council member should watch that.
I don't know if he wants to force them to
watch it. I don't know if, but they should. They
should see it. This is what people in your city
are dealing with. And I know, like you go out
into the community and you talk to people at various
events and that sort of stuff, But unless you actually
have any kind of personal experience with violent crime, you
don't understand it. Just based off of the words people
come down to the city council and they say things
to you, like one did on Monday, and I've got
that audio, and the reaction is always this sort of oh,
I'm sorry that happened to you. And you know that's
not us though, that's some other entity. You should take
your complaint to them. So the Ukrainian community and Charlotte
grieving the death of twenty three year old Arenas Routsco
Police said was randomly stabbed to death Friday night in
a light rail car at the Blue Line stop near
West Boulevard and Camden Road. She came to Charlotte seeking
safety after fleeing the war in Ukraine. The suspect, to
Carlos Brown, remains hospitalized. Authority said he has a history
of mental health issues. The City of Charlotte said that
Professional Security Services or PSS, entered into a contract with
CATS back in December to provide security. The firm was
founded by former CMPD officers and is embedded across the
cat's system. I don't know what that means though, I
don't know how many officers they have. I don't know
if it's on buses, trains at the stations. Don't know,
the city said PSS. Is in charge of security and
fair enforcement. That's fare so collection affairs, which, as I
went over yesterday, a big problem with the CAT system
is it does not enforce its borders, shall we say.
It doesn't have turnstiles. It has a kiosk that you
walk up to and get a ticket. Then you go
on the train and it's not a very long route,
and if you're able to jump off before somebody comes
through and asks to see your ticket, well then you've
ridden for free. And people can ride for free, and
they do ride for free all day long, all through
the night. And it's a problem not just from an
economics standpoint, but also from a safety standpoint. Then there
is a statement from the suspect's mother, and she spoke
to wsoc's Hunter Saints. Joe Bruno gave a recap of
her statement that appeared in Saints's story. She's not made
making excuses for her son. She says what he did
was atrocious, it was horrible, and it was wrong. She
said that the point of her speaking is not to
make her son out to be a victim, because he's not.
She says she wanted to speak about the arrest to
highlight how the system failed and things got to this point.
He has not yet appeared before a judge. Police are
largely quiet about the details of what happened, but his
mom provided more context on how things escalated to this point.
He served more than five years on an armed robbery charge,
and when he was released from prison, his mother says
he started saying weird things. She says she got Brown evaluated,
but his behavior became aggressive, so she got an involuntary
commitment order from the courts. He was placed under psychiatric
monitoring for two weeks and diagnosed with schizophrenia. But after
he was released, she says he became so aggressive she
had to kick him out of the house and he
became homeless. And she mentioned she and her husband had
to kick him out of the house because I know
there was questions about does he have a father or
anything like that. That's when he becomes homeless. In January,
he's arrested for misusing the nine to one to one
system and the other day I gave you those details.
Police say he called from a hospital and claimed somebody
had given him some man made material quote unquote that
controlled when he ate walked and talked. Despite his criminal
past and his homelessness. Magistrate Teresa Stokes allowed him to
be released from jail on a written promise to appear. See,
this is the role of the magistrate, which is to
make sure that you know set conditions that ensure that
you come back for your appearance in court. Now, if
you're a flight risk or something, or you're a menace
to the community, then they can impose, you know, bond
and bail and stuff like that. But for some reason,
this person was essentially released on their own recognizance. In
other words, Hey, you got to come back to court
and I trust that you will come back to court,
so I'm not going to put you under a bail
condition in court last month on this charge. So he
did show up to court. That's what the magistrate did.
Like the magic let him go, has him with the
promise that he will appear, and he did appear in court. Right,
So it doesn't seem like the magistrate making that decision
to make sure he shows up in court. It doesn't
seem like that was the wrong decision to ensure he
shows up. However, if you are a menace to the
society around you, then maybe that would have been a
condition to keep him in court, his public defender questioned
his mental capacity. The judge in the case, Roy Wiggins,
ordered a forensic evaluation. Brown's mother says that the court
should have never let her son be out in the
community knowing that he had mental health issues and previous arrests.
And I agree with him. I agree with her, like
you have a rap sheet that includes violent offenses and
you've now been involuntarily committed by your family, and you've
been diagnosed schizophrenic, and you're out on the street, you're aggressive, Like, yeah,
red flags all over the place. Cmpd's community policing team
was also well acquainted with the suspect. They encountered him
three times last year and referred him to resources each time.
CMPD has still not answered questions about what those resources are,
and if he accepted any of them, if police have
any recourse, if they keep encountering somebody who refuses help,
and why Brown wasn't arrested if he was accused of
criminal activity. By the way, Katz reportedly spends about fourteen
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with Susan. Hello, Susan, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hey Pee, I heard your quoting of I believe they
had fourteen dollars in secure excuse me, insecurity for cats.
Speaker 1: That's what Yeah, that's what I've seen reported.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, my question is this, When the right
the light rail first started, there was a lot of
security on there because they had to make sure that
everyone was paying their own way.
Speaker 1: That's theoretically check. Yeah, and that's what this private contractor
is supposed to be doing as well. Fair collection and security.
Speaker 2: Oh, supposed to be good, nice joy.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean, there was there did
not appear to be obviously any security on that train.
And it's not like we have this like massive fleet
of trains, you know, so I like, maybe it was
on a different train. Maybe there wasn't anybody on any
train that night. I don't know, but a Friday night
in South End seems like a it seems like a
pretty you know, high priority for the light rail system,
particularly when you build up an entire area of the
city around that light rail that line, and you've encouraged
all of the apartment buildings and all of the restaurants
and bars to build there, and now they're there, and
I don't think it's wise to then just abandon the
train line security after you've invested all this effort to
making that area boom.
Speaker 2: It's just being funneled into somebody else's pocket.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I don't know. I mean, and maybe the
fourteen million isn't enough. I don't know. If they're riding
a round on buses, I don't know if they're uniformed
officers or something, or if they are you know, like
a TS or not. I guess TSA or the sky marshals. Right,
maybe they're undercover. I don't know. I know nothing about
their security system, and I would understand why they wouldn't
want to divulge all of those details if they are
doing undercover monitoring. But it's obviously there wasn't anybody on
that train on Friday.
Speaker 2: Night, right that girl would still be alive exactly.
Speaker 1: Maybe, so, Susan, I appreciate the call, Thank you. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Take care.
Speaker 1: Back to the WSOC TV story. Glenn Counts a long
time cops and courts beat reporter guy. I've known Glenn
for a very long time. He does very good work.
In my opinion. You don't have to agree with me,
but I think Glenn is a straight shooter. He spoke
with Kimberly Best, a retired judge who presided over the
mental health court. Did you know there's a mental health court? Okay?
And she said, quote, it's broken and we've known that
for a long time. Referring to the mental health system,
she noted that the mental health system can only accommodate
a select few, particularly those accused of serious offenses. She
emphasized the need for societal change in addressing mental illness
and the importance of funding mental health resources. Look I
am perfectly willing to have a conversation about mental health resources.
Here's my condition. Commitment has to be one of those
topics of discussion, the ability of the courts to put
somebody into involuntary commitment and to keep them there until
the crisis quote unquote is over and they are then
able to go back into the society. If that's part
of the conversation, then I'm open to having it. But
if you're just gonna tell me that we got to
fund a bunch of non government organizations and nonprofits, then
that's not a robust conversation in my mind. All right,
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