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Speaker 1: right direction. Welcome back, Donovan and O'Neil from Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure having you on the program.
Speaker 2: Brian. Good to be here with you.
Speaker 1: You know, and are you going to talk about energy today?
Speaker 1: And we'll get to that topic. I just had to
Speaker 1: just say out loud, filling the gas tank isn't as painful.
Speaker 1: It just seems like in five minutes time, the price
Speaker 1: of gas has dropped fairly dramatically. What magic one did
Speaker 1: Donald Trump waive to cause that.
Speaker 2: To happen.
Speaker 3: Four weeks in a row. I think of consistent drop
Speaker 3: in national gas price averages. I think what it is, right,
Speaker 3: there's no single action I think that's been taken, But
Speaker 3: I think what it is is an increased confidence and
Speaker 3: the fact that all energy sources here in this country
Speaker 3: are going to be embrace right, We're not pushing towards
Speaker 3: this green new deal, Green energy new deal.
Speaker 2: It's recognizing that.
Speaker 3: We've got to have fuel to fuel our cars and
Speaker 3: an apportable price right now, and folks are making that investment.
Speaker 1: And making that investment, and that is like having a
Speaker 1: tax cut it. I mean, if you can lower the
Speaker 1: price of our monthly energy bills, for example, we all
Speaker 1: benefit from that. It frees up more resources. I just
Speaker 1: get this idea that, you know, the forces in government
Speaker 1: are doing everything that they can possibly do to eradicate
Speaker 1: our extra income and reduce our consumption power. It's like this,
Speaker 1: it just seems to be this sort of grand conspiracy
Speaker 1: to limit what we can spend on and soak it
Speaker 1: all up with outrageous energy prices and you know, increase
Speaker 1: insurance premiums and increase every I mean, it's just every
Speaker 1: little bit around us is whittled away, whittled away, whittled
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, there's the there's a direct form
Speaker 3: of taxation, right that we feel every two weeks at
Speaker 3: our pocketbook. Then you've got the inflationary form of taxation, right,
Speaker 3: It's that hidden taxation that comes from the government printing
Speaker 3: more money and spending more money and debuting value of
Speaker 3: the dollar. And then there's a regulatory right, so it's
Speaker 3: even more hidden. But it's the kind of taxation that
Speaker 3: occurs through the rules and regulations, the red tape that
Speaker 3: government creates that makes it more cost, creates compliance costs
Speaker 3: that get passed on to consumers. I think what we're
Speaker 3: seeing right now is an undoing of a lot of
Speaker 3: those things, right, lower taxes, less government spending, and cutting
Speaker 3: a red tape that's leading to relief for American people
Speaker 3: after four years of Bidenomics.
Speaker 1: Indeed, and this whole idea that you know, climate change,
Speaker 1: climate change, and forcing energy companies to invest in renewable
Speaker 1: resources which are not reliable that drives the cost of
Speaker 1: energy up too, and of course leaves us with less
Speaker 1: reliable energy sources. And AFP is a hell bend for
Speaker 1: leather here in Ohio to improve our energy policy. Am
Speaker 1: I right?
Speaker 3: That's correct? No special interests, no favorite energy. We want
Speaker 3: an abundance energy, an abundance approach to energy policy making
Speaker 3: here in the state of Ohio. And I'm happy to
Speaker 3: report lawmakers in the state of Ohio have started. I
Speaker 3: have taken some important first steps and getting us.
Speaker 1: There and what might those steps be and I got
Speaker 1: my fingers crossed and includes a nuclear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we actually issued our first key vote alert yesterday.
Speaker 3: They voted it out of the Senate Energy Committee unanimously
Speaker 3: eleven yes.
Speaker 2: Votes, zero no votes. Senate Bill two.
Speaker 3: This is an important piece of legislation that will undo
Speaker 3: subsidies that were brought in through Houspital six, the scandal
Speaker 3: written Nuclear Energy LG and will most importantly.
Speaker 2: Expedite the sighting process. This is what you like, Brian.
Speaker 3: I've just prepping for this on the nuclear because I
Speaker 3: know you're a big nuclear fan. The sighting process, So
Speaker 3: if you're in the state of Ohio, you'll be able
Speaker 3: to get an energy project up and going within forty
Speaker 3: five days. The Power Sighting Board has forty five days
Speaker 3: to get to a yes or a no.
Speaker 2: Give give an energy company and answer.
Speaker 3: If they were failed to respond, that project's automatically approved.
Speaker 3: And so what that's gonna do is it's going to
Speaker 3: signal to energy generators across the country who want to
Speaker 3: make investments and energy projects that Ohio is open for
Speaker 3: business and ready to bring. If you've got a project,
Speaker 3: you can get excited here in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: And you're not gonna have.
Speaker 3: To wait years to figure out if you're gonna if
Speaker 3: it's going to be approved. You're gonna have answers within
Speaker 3: a month and a half on these expedited processes.
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Speaker 1: It's seven thirty nine on a Wednesday, talking with Domin
Speaker 1: and Neil for Americans for Prosperity. You two can help.
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Speaker 1: help you help ourselves here in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Talking energy policy today was Senate Bill too Donovan, forty
Speaker 1: five days to approve or deny a project. In terms
Speaker 1: of what building an energy plan or a power plan
Speaker 1: or maybe a nuclear plan is it is that?
Speaker 2: Is that? My is that? The is that?
Speaker 1: What is this bill is all about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a number of different provisions in there as
Speaker 3: well as like removing the electric security plans in place
Speaker 3: of market rate offers. But on the permitting piece, what's
Speaker 3: really key here is you'll you know, you hear about
Speaker 3: all the time, right like Keystone Pipeline and these other
Speaker 3: energy projects that that that get featured in election years.
Speaker 3: It's the bureaucracy, right Yeah, the knowing whether projects going
Speaker 3: have you approved or not that oftentimes can kill these
Speaker 3: things before they ever see the light of day. I
Speaker 3: think that's a key part of this, right is that
Speaker 3: they're saying saying, you know, if we can we find
Speaker 3: these it's these designated areas of the state where we
Speaker 3: need the energy generation to occur, We're going to create
Speaker 3: that expedited that expedited process and for the rest of them,
Speaker 3: they'll also have a quick and reliable process.
Speaker 2: I think it's something like ninety or one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty days. But either way, Brian, what this legislation is.
Speaker 3: Going to do is give folks the confidence that if
Speaker 3: they're going to invest in an energy project, they're going
Speaker 3: to have an answer within a defined period of time.
Speaker 3: No more bureaucrafts slow walking the process. We're going to
Speaker 3: get it in, we're going to get it out, or
Speaker 3: you get energy on the grid.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm almost afraid to ask this question, but quite
Speaker 1: often these projects are held up in litigation. There's all
Speaker 1: kinds of environmental lawsuits, you know, the oh this particular
Speaker 1: fish or turtle is going to be impacted by and
Speaker 1: they run into court and it court slaps an injunction
Speaker 1: on it, preventing the project from going forward. Does this
Speaker 1: deal with those types of concerns and resulting delays.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good point. I guess it's not all
Speaker 3: sunshine and rainbows, right. They don't have a little problem
Speaker 3: known as the federal government, and you got or nerk
Speaker 3: if you're dealing with nuclear power. What I think is
Speaker 3: key here is is you know, and as a state,
Speaker 3: we're able to move a little faster than the federal government.
Speaker 3: So the state's going to get its business in order
Speaker 3: and be ready to go.
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to be then.
Speaker 3: Looking to is creating that upward pressure to the federal
Speaker 3: government and making sure And I think we've got a
Speaker 3: good voice and advocate in the White House. We've got
Speaker 3: the right folks in Congress. We need them to do
Speaker 3: their part. I think a lot of that happens in
Speaker 3: the one big beautiful bill that's that's being worked on
Speaker 3: right now in Congress to get the federal government alignment
Speaker 3: so that, yeah, we can get these projects done and
Speaker 3: get to focus on relief.
Speaker 2: On their entranty bills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Keystone pipeline. It was you know, approved
Speaker 1: across the board and you know, over multiple administrations and
Speaker 1: only to have Biden pulled the plug on it again
Speaker 1: when he got elected. It's just I have never understood that.
Speaker 1: And from an environmental standpoint, the pipeline much better than
Speaker 1: loading up oil onto trains and sending it on train
Speaker 1: tracks down to the refineries in Texas. So I just
Speaker 1: really really baffling. So anything else in this centibil too,
Speaker 1: you want to bring my listeners attention, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Think the other thing is these market rate offers. I
Speaker 3: hint it out just a moment ago. So you know,
Speaker 3: when we originally deregulated the state of Ohio. Right, and
Speaker 3: we said energy generators are in a generator. Energy distributors
Speaker 3: are going to distribute the energy. Neverthe two shall meet.
Speaker 3: The distributors sound a number of different loopholes and ways
Speaker 3: to kind of put riders and new fees on your
Speaker 3: bill that get us all scratching our heads and wondering
Speaker 3: why our bills keep going up. The market rate, requiring
Speaker 3: market rate offers is going to force companies to go
Speaker 3: to the market like they should in a free market
Speaker 3: economy and get the best and cheapest options and deliver
Speaker 3: those to the customers. We think that's going to help
Speaker 3: do is bring down the costs on energy and again
Speaker 3: allow all forms of energy wind, solar, nuclear, coal, oil, gas,
Speaker 3: whatever to compete on the same marketplace, in the same
Speaker 3: marketplace for your energy dollar, ultimately resulting in a better
Speaker 3: product for the consumers. And that's what this bill is
Speaker 3: all about, empowering the consumers.
Speaker 1: Well, that's wonderful. And lower energy prices mean we have
Speaker 1: a greater magnet to draw business and industry in the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. I mean, can you imagine trying to
Speaker 1: set up a business in California with the outrageous price
Speaker 1: of energy there. Oh, look, here's a cheaper option. We've
Speaker 1: got plenty of land resources and abundant cheap energy in
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. I know Viva Grammarsom he's planning
Speaker 1: on getting rid of the income tax. Whether he's successful
Speaker 1: in that or not, but that also is a type
Speaker 1: of magnet. It's certainly worked for Texas and Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and when you talk about businesses, there's also provisions
Speaker 3: in here to allow behind what they call behind the
Speaker 3: meter for large companies. So if Amazon or Google want
Speaker 3: to locate their big data centers here in the state
Speaker 3: of Ohio right now, many of the proposals have had
Speaker 3: taxpayers on the hook. If those projects fall through or
Speaker 3: something happens, taxpayers, the rate payers are going to have
Speaker 3: to shoulder some of that burden.
Speaker 2: This removes that.
Speaker 3: Provision, removes that ability and says no, Amazon, Google, you
Speaker 3: can build your energy behind the meter here in the
Speaker 3: state of Ohio. In fact, we want you to do it,
Speaker 3: but you're not going to put it on the backs
Speaker 3: of the rate payers. And so what we think that'll
Speaker 3: do is allow those private companies to partner with energy
Speaker 3: generation companies to build their necessary energy infrastructure to put
Speaker 3: their projects here in Ohio, and then I Yali Bryant,
Speaker 3: with Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey fail to actually embrace
Speaker 3: energy abundance in their states. They're going to come knock
Speaker 3: on Ohio's door asking to get that energy onto the grid.
Speaker 3: We're going to become a net exporter of energy, where
Speaker 3: right now we're a net importer of energy. We ought
Speaker 3: to be exporting our energy to the East Coast, and
Speaker 3: we're going to be able to do that. I think
Speaker 3: if Centebil two becomes law.
Speaker 1: I agree completely. And you know, going back to nuclear,
Speaker 1: which you know I like, and these modular nuclear plants
Speaker 1: which have a very small footprint, not your three mile
Speaker 1: island technology folks. We're decades and decades beyond that from
Speaker 1: a technological standpoint. But those big powerhouse data companies, they
Speaker 1: have massive political influence, they have massive amounts of money,
Speaker 1: and they need huge amounts of energy to run these
Speaker 1: data centers. They'll have they can build their own modular
Speaker 1: nuke plants and we will enjoy the benefits of it,
Speaker 1: because I presume the way these nuclear plants work, they'll
Speaker 1: generate far more energy than the data centers actually require,
Speaker 1: which means local communities can get the benefit of the
Speaker 1: having the nuclear power plants there.
Speaker 2: Yep. And that's the idea.
Speaker 3: And a lot of folks have been hung up on, well,
Speaker 3: was the federal you know, the Fed's going to have
Speaker 3: this stuff go on the grid?
Speaker 2: How's this all going to work?
Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing in Centabile two and from
Speaker 3: the conversations happening in committee and outside of the committee, is
Speaker 3: we're just gonna We're just going to open up the
Speaker 3: state of Ohio for energy bundance. We're going to take
Speaker 3: this energy abundance approach to policy making.
Speaker 2: We're going to ask folks to cite their projects here
Speaker 2: in the state.
Speaker 3: Of Ohio all the above, and as as folks see
Speaker 3: this energy have generating in the state of Ohio, they're
Speaker 3: going to come knock in and asking for it. And
Speaker 3: it's gonna it's gonna end up working out to where
Speaker 3: this this is going to create an opportunity here in
Speaker 3: the state of Ohioland so, uh yeah, that's that's the idea.
Speaker 3: And by the way, we're doing it with how many
Speaker 3: subsidies Brian Zero, We've got fire to have a rate
Speaker 3: payers subsidize anybody's favorite interest projects.
Speaker 2: We're doing it with.
Speaker 3: Zero and they're because they're letting the free market dictate
Speaker 3: how this is going to operate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that last one was attained in controversy. To
Speaker 1: say the least, political careers and freedoms and liberties in
Speaker 1: jeopardy is a consequence of that, Shenanigan. So this is
Speaker 1: a better approach. How come my listeners getting involved on
Speaker 1: Van O'Neill.
Speaker 3: Well, we're at a critical juncture. Go to Buckeye blueprint
Speaker 3: dot com. You go to Buckeye blueprint dot com. Most
Speaker 3: important is reach out to your senators. We anticipate this
Speaker 3: legislation will be on the floor of the Ohio Senate
Speaker 3: later today, if not next week, and then there's legislation
Speaker 3: moving in the House as well. And so most importantly,
Speaker 3: contact your representatives and say, hey, support energy generation here
Speaker 3: in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: And you do that by visiting Buckeye blueprint dot com.
Speaker 1: Well, it came out of committee unanimous. Is there really
Speaker 1: any political opposition to this in Columbus?
Speaker 3: The only folks who are posing this are the utilities
Speaker 3: because they stand to lose the most and the ability
Speaker 3: to impact rate pairs with these new writers that they.
Speaker 2: Keep imposing on otherwise.
Speaker 3: There's pretty pretty widespread support for this legislation because it
Speaker 3: doesn't favor any particular group, a resource, or industry.
Speaker 1: It helps all Ohio residents who consume power and pay
Speaker 1: a power bill. That's great news for everybody in the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Thank you Buckeye Blueprint dot Com. Donovan,
Speaker 1: and you will keep up the great work. I'll look
Speaker 1: forward to having you back on with maybe more good
Speaker 1: news next time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely see right, take.
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