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Speaker 1: Well, it is my pleasure to be joined on our

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podcast this week by Lamont Roach. Lamar Roach, you have

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another challenging fight coming up December sixth. You'll be main

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event of the PBC Prime Video pay for view CARDI

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B challenging the WBC Interim Junior Welterweight titleholder, Isaac Pittbull

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Cruz in the Great Fight City of San Antonio at

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the Frost Bank Center. So welcome to the show. The

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last time we spoke was before you had your last

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fight against Tank Davis earlier this year, so you know,

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I got it before we get into everything with Pitbull,

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which I find to be a very intriguing fight, to

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be honest, we got to get into a little bit

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about what we've seen earlier this year. That fight was

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back in February. You moved up in wait to lightweight

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to challenge him for his WBA Lightweight championship, and you

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were held to what most people considered a highly controversial

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draw in that fight. A lot of people thought that

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you won that fight, that the referee blew the knockdown

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call in the ninth round, did not penalize him by

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points or DQ for running to the corner getting wiped off.

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There was all kinds of things that went haywire. They

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screwed up the potential for replay. So all these months

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later where you made him take the knockdown in front

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of the whole world, how do you reflect on that

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fight and what the heck happened? Do you feel like

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you were robbed?

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Speaker 2: For sure?

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Speaker 3: It's exactly how you you know, how you described it though,

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that's exactly how I feel. I mean, it's it's it

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was in plain sight. So it's sad. It's sad that

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you know, boxing comes to situations as such and it

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doesn't go the right way like it's supposed to.

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Speaker 2: This is that wasn't the first time, and it probably

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won't be the last I had to say.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's just it's just, you know, spill

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milk that I really can't cry over.

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Speaker 2: But I do definitely feel like I was robbed.

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean, watching the fight, I thought I

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won without the knockdown being counted as well.

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Speaker 2: But you know, everything's subjective, right, that.

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Speaker 1: Is very true. But one of the things that really

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irritated me about it, and I don't have I didn't

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have a dog in the fight. I was you know,

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looking forward to seeing you guys put on a highly competitive,

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good interesting fight. But what irritated me was that they

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put replay in place for the commission to examine these instances.

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That was obviously the perfect example to view the replay

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of what occurred when he went down on the knee.

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After the fact, the Commission in New York recognized that

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it was a knockdown, but said because of their technical

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issues that they were having supposedly with the production truck. Yeah,

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exactly that they people will some people will see the

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video of this, others will hear the video you are

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given the supposedly the quote marks ye, so that they

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recognized it. But because it wasn't able to be viewed

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by the replay official within the time frame during the fight,

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they couldn't suddenly post fight award you the extra point

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give you the win because they didn't know how the

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final three rounds would have played out. You know, if

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everybody knew there had been a knockdown. What is your

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thought about that aspect of it?

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Speaker 3: My thought is just, you know, they definitely dropped the rock,

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and I think, uh, it's I just I just think

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it's a little shady, that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's a great word. That's a great word for it.

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Speaker 2: I just I just I definitely just think it's a

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little shady.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of things come in the factor

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when you have a superstar and such who brings uh,

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how do you say it value to a lot of

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people involved with the event and maybe the potential next event.

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So it's it's just it's just a little shaky, that's all.

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That's how I feel.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned about the next event. So it was

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a good fight. Some controversy. Boxing never helped sell a rematch. Uh,

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you know, he exercises right to a rematch, so we

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all thought that would happen. First they talked, you know,

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he said right away, you want to get right back

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and during as quickly as possible. Obviously you did. Also

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they talked about doing it in June. Then it was

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supposed to take place in August, and then a lot

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of stuff went on. He ended up pulling out of

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the fight to take what was going to be a

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far more lucrative exhibition fight, not even a real fight

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against Jake Paul. I guess somebody, allegedly nobody can really

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argue if you're taking a huge payday, I suppose. But

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how did you feel about basically getting strung along post

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the first fight in February for him saying we'll do

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it this way, you'll do it, then he'll take accept

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the rematch, and then he belled on you kind of

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left you high and dry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely did.

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Speaker 3: That's dirty business and that's what contracts and stuff I'll

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put into play for.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if if I was a guy who

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was super pressed.

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Speaker 3: For you know, money or anything like that, you know

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you can easily go to arbitration.

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Speaker 2: That didn't take place.

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Speaker 1: That as you decided you didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's just coming to a point where you know that's

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going to be strong along too. It's gonna be a

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lot of bs, and nobody wants to go through more

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bs than he already. You know what I'm saying that

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he already put me in or put me through. We

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already knew that the fight was kind of in limbo

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as we were in camp, so it was just really

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pissing me off, honestly. But you know, once we came

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to terms with they are pretty much aren't going to fight,

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it was just like, all right, where do we go

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from here, but we always been working since to find

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the next to do so, so we always knew that

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we were going to.

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Speaker 1: Fight this year when you when you heard he was

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taking the Jake Paul fight, and they went through their

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press tour, and then we all know what happened about

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the lawsuit from a girl, an ex girl friend, that

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alleged yet another case of domestic violence committed by Tank Davis.

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Obviously we'll go through the process with that, uh, But

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he ended up getting dropped from the fight, so he

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doesn't get a what would have been still a lucrative

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payday and a rematch against you. He doesn't get perhaps

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an even more lucrative situation with Jake Paul and isn't

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fighting at all. What is your thought about that? It

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seems to me like karma maybe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have any thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Whatever happened happened, doesn't have anything to do with me anymore. So,

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you know, I wish the best to anybody who is

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involved in that, you know, that situation with MVP, with

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you know, the other side, whatever the case may be, however,

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they move on. They better figure it out. But I

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don't have any thoughts about it. I don't have anything

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to focus on. But Pitbull cruise December six.

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Speaker 1: Well down down the road, whatever happens, would you like

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to maybe see Tank again just to settle that score.

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Speaker 2: I doubt it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just off the simple fact that he wouldn't, you know,

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rematch me.

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Speaker 2: It's like the proof is in the put in. If

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you look at everything at face value, it probably doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: So that would get to Pitbull. So I have to

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say I was a little surprised that Pitbull and his

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team took this fight. You are not a big name.

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You're certainly a bigger name than you were before you

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fought Tank Davis. Uh and put on an excellent performance

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in that fight. Were you surprised that they called your

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name and decided to then ask to fight you?

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Speaker 4: Uh, surprise, No, because people kind of always been an option,

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Like I'm pretty sure they were knowing of it, Like now,

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surprise that they say, yes, Well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit okay, but but.

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Speaker 3: You know, uh, surprised that you know, I'm saying that

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they that they were aware, and because we were aware,

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we've been aware, so you know, he was always on

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the list of what can happen next.

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Speaker 1: But they picked they picked you out and I sort

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of anyway, my take was view you as as the

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favorite and him as the underdog. Your five foot seventies,

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five foot four. He's always a smaller guy, but you

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obviously are going to be much bigger than him. You're

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obviously a very consummate bock.

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Speaker 2: Sir.

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Speaker 1: You have excellent defense, You're fast. Uh, you've we talked

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about it before the Tank fight, how good of a

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chin you have, and you certainly showed that against a

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big puncher like Tank Davis. How do you approach him then?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What do you have to be warried from him? I

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already know what he has to be warried from you.

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You know you have to be.

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Speaker 3: Worried of, you know, just his powerful punching wide looping shots.

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There's not a list of things that you have to

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look for. There's things that he does well and that

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he makes work for him. But that's that's his plan A,

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B and C. So, uh, if the if the shots,

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if the big looping shots don't work for him, where's

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he going to go?

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Speaker 2: Like? What is he going to do? If the relentless

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pressure doesn't work for him? What is he going to do?

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I have multiple avenues to win this fight,

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and I'll explode them all night until you know, either

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the bell rings or he falls.

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Speaker 1: Well, the way the way you just put it, I

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was what I was sort of thinking, like, he has

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one way to win, which is a good way, but

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that Lamont Roach had probably three or four ways.

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Speaker 2: To win for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, one thing about this. You still are the

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WBA Junior Lightweight World Champion. You defended that title once,

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but in your next fight you moved up and took

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the challenge to fight for the lightweight belt against Tank Davis.

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Now in your next fight after that, you're moving up

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yet again tow one hundred and forty pounds to take

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on Pitbull Cruise for his interim belt. So I wonder,

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does this mean that you are done with one hundred

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and thirty pounds or is it still in the back

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of your mind that someday you might go back down

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and defend it, or I don't know how much longer

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the WBA would even allow you to hold it after

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all this time without defending it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, It's in the back of my

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mind for sure. It's just look at so be realistic.

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Look at the platform that I'm on, look at the.

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Speaker 2: Caliber fighter that I'm taking on.

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Speaker 3: If there's anything similar or bigger than a Pitbull fight

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at one for the super Lightweight Interim Championship at one thirty,

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then then there's a conversation.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a matter if you can't make the

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weight anymore.

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Speaker 3: Some guys would say, yeah, no, no, no, no no no,

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I can make the weight for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you and Pitball should be a good fight. I mean,

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like I said, pretty good matchup. It seemed to me

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you're in a great fight city like San Antonio. Yeah,

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I'm sure you've worked it out where you're making like

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a pretty good purse for this and you are fighting

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for the interim belt. But I always think about it.

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Don't fighters want to fight for real belts like the

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main titles?

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure, definitely, And I think me securing this

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one would. I'm because I'm different.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to press the fact that I'm the intern chap.

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This puts me because even on the wbc UH ranking chart,

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there's champion, Intern Champion, then number one contender. If I'm

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over that number one contender, I'm pressing Subrill Matias or

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the winner of Dulton Smith and subreal Matias to fight

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the next fight literally.

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Speaker 1: So that brings in to my to my uh, I

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guess my last question is that if you are going

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to stay a one hundred forty pounds, if you beat

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Pittbull Cruise or even if you don't beat pit Bull Cruise, whatever,

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but that's a really good division right now, you'll be there.

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Pitbull is there. Tthymo Lopez is the lineal champion, he's

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the WBO champion. He's probably fighting Shaquor Stevenson, who was

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an excellent lightweight champion who's coming up in wait. Probably

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for that fight. You got Richardson Hitchins, a very talented fighter.

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You mentioned of course Sybrill Matias, who you'd be on

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course for in the WBC. You know your Washington brother

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Gary Antewin Russell has one of the as the WBA belt.

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How do you feel about the weather than Mattias, because

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that's the one you would be probably steered towards based

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on the organization. How do you kind of feel about

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the wealth of talent there? And in particular, you know

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you didn't get to do the rematch with Tank, who's

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your DMV guy. You know all from DC and from Baltimore.

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Russell is like a big time All DC championship showdown, and.

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Speaker 3: Man, I love that fight. I actually if people don't know. Okay,

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So the options that were presented to me by PBC

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were people Gary Russell Jr. Gabriel floor Is, and somebody else.

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I told I told them no to.

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Speaker 2: Gabe. I told him no to Gary Russell Jr.

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Speaker 3: Because what the hell has he done in the last

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four years And why does he think he did? Why

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would I gift him a title shot in his second

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fight back in four.

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Speaker 2: Years and one third And and it would have they

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said thirty five. That's weird, but you know, I guess

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it wouldn't have been a title shot exactly.

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Speaker 3: And he's like being disrespectful like woon wom It's not

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gonna work like that. No, SORRYO scooed over, and I

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told him we obviously we said yes the people cruise,

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but we countered and it's like, let us fight Gary

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and swine Russell. That was that was my first option

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me personally, that was my first option. I was like,

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scratch those and asked Gary Antoine Russell, does he want

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to fight yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Straight up?

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Speaker 1: I guess the answer was no, and you guys all

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know each other from you know, being running in the

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DC circles. I assume, yeah, so if you win, maybe

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the unification you can will give him a reason to

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maybe fight you.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm I mean, because he actually said that too,

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and I am from a champion standpoint. I understand he

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said that all fort at one thirty. I haven't done

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anything at one Okay.

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Speaker 2: I believe that. But after I make some noise here,

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I'm not trying to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll be You'll be on roughly the same schedule

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you're fighting Kickball in December. On the sixth of you win,

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you'll have that interim delp you know, he will have

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a fight. I assume they're going to reschedule him on

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the Jake Paul event that was postponed. He was supposed

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to defending his mandatory against Arioka. Uh maybe we'll see it.

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But in the meantime, it's Pitbull Cruise December sixth a

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PBC on Prime Video Pay Review in San Antonio. Laman,

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I thank you very much for your time and I

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wish you good luck in this fight.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, my god.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

