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Speaker 1: This is Jeff Johnson from a film by podcast and

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for the Dearly Departed flow. Hymen, you're listening. You're listening

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to this Surely you Can't Be Serious podcasts. I had

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it locked and he's got to laugh at at me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Here at the Sureley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. We try to stay a political but

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there is an important event coming up and you guys

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really have to know what our stance is on this,

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and we're going to give it to you later on

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in this podcast. But this is a decision that everybody

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should make. It's very important and even though normally we

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stay political, we have to take a stance on this.

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We need you to decide by the end of this

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episode do you love Nickelback or do you hate them?

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Speaker 3: Going on and.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are back with the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast, Here to talk about Nickelback. On our

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Are They Worth the Hate series, we have covered Billie

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Vanilli and on that one we decided they were not

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worth the hate. We will be covering Creed next week's right,

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asking the big question are they worth the hate? Nickelback

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was the number two spot for the most hated bands,

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according to Rolling Stone.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to show my cards, but that is

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absolutely ludicrous, dye.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you are joining us for this podcast,

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and you know you're not just your standard fan. Even

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if you are just our standard fan, you are probably

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one of three things. You are either someone who loathes Nickelback,

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or you like them a lot, or you're on the fence.

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Maybe you haven't really given it much thought, but you

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really don't know why everybody hates Nickelback, and so you're

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here to find that out. And so whatever camp you're

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in on that one, let me just ask you a question. Okay,

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are you a follower or do you listen to music

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with an open mind and make decisions for yourself? Yes,

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Because if you're among the group of people hate Nickelback,

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you might be somebody who says something like when asked

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the question why do you hate them, you might be

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somebody who says something like, well, because they're formulaic or

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because they're vacuous. Right, So clue number one. You said

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they're formulaic. Can you name me a band that's not formulaic?

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I mean ac DC, Yeah, every hugely formula completely formulae

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but their songs are incredible, right, Okay, tell me what

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the formula is that they're following him. It's so freaking easy.

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Why aren't you going and making millions of dollars playing music?

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Speaker 1: Hey, that formula sold fifty million albums.

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Speaker 2: D Then the next one, vacuum? Did you just pull

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out the dictionary for that one?

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Speaker 1: If you ever listened to Doctor Phil Good, for example,

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there's a couple of songs on there there are about

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nothing but strippers.

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Speaker 2: Are the songs meaningless? Yes? Are some of them less

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than meaningless. I could pull a handful of songs by

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Nickelback and say, compare these to all of the Van

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Halen songs written from nineteen seventy eight to nineteen eighty four,

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and you tell me which is more vacuous. David Lee

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Roth was deliberately vacuous in the lyrics that he would

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write to those songs. These are not reasons to hate

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the band. You don't like them personally, Yeah, Hey, they

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got into some trouble here and there. What frickin' band

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do you know that didn't have somebody get in trouble. Okay,

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so I guess I've tipped my hand as well. Obviously

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we have a concern about this, but we do need

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to listen to this with an open mind. I don't

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love Taylor Swift, but there's a handful of songs that

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I've listened to and I'm like, oh, this is good.

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I like this song.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to her music and go I understand

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why she's very popular.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, she has found something that people like, and Nickelback

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found something that people liked, and because so many people

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liked it, they became hated.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. Chad Kroger sat down and dissected popular songs

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and said, why is this song popular? What can I

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learn from it? How can I make my songs better

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from it? And it worked like a friggin charm and

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people hate him for that. That's ludicrous.

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Speaker 2: So, guys, we're going to jump into basically what we're

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calling the ten songs that you got to know by

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Nickelback that you got to look at and go is

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this worthy of the hate? We're going to go chronologically

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from the earliest to the most recent that we have picked.

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Speaker 1: They came out when we had young kids, and you know,

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radio was starting to become less important to me, and

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what were we doing. I told you and Amanda Janic

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that I might be the president of the Nicoback Fan

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Club of Norman, Oklahoma after going through.

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Speaker 2: These Yeah, this band, just as a brief overview. They

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are from a tiny little town in Canada called Hannah,

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population about twenty three hundred people, teeny tiny and it's flat.

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I'm already with these guys because we live in Oklahoma, right.

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These guys were born in the seventies, just like us.

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early nineties, trying their best to get some shows, playing

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cover songs of Led Zeppelin and Metallica. That's exactly what

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I was doing in the early nineties. That's exactly what

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I was doing. These guys could be you, Yeah, they could.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you my buddy Cameron Cameron Accord Patreon. Remember

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he's from Alberta. I texted him the other day, I said,

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have you ever been to Hannah? And he said no?

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And I said why on? He's like, I would have

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no reason to go there.

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Speaker 2: There's not yeah. Like they talked about how it was

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awful when you broke a guitar string because there was

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nowhere to go to buy new guitar strings. You had

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to go find somebody else who played a guitar and say, please, can't.

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I'll give you five bucks for an e Just give

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me an Eastream please. They said it was so flat

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that you could watch your dog run away for a

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couple weeks.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the documentary on Netflix?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, It's fantastic, Okay, I totally enjoyed it. I thought

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it was a lot of fun. These are guys that

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Speaker 2: They put out a couple of albums and they weren't successful.

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Speaker 1: That's right, they were initially they were not.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, even after they got signed

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by a very small record label. Roadrunner is the name

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of the record label. Their biggest name was Typo Negative.

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Do you remember Typo Negative? I do too. They were

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never huge, right, And if that's the biggest guy you got,

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that's not much.

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Speaker 1: Let's camp out there for a second. Because if you're

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a heavy metal label, your peers aren't these heavy metal

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bands and your nickelback you're not going to be popular

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with the other crazy, heavy metal, insane guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there may have been a few guys that

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had some issues with them, but as the owner of

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the record label put it, it was like, guys, these

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guys are keeping the lights on forces right, but they weren't. Initially,

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they had an album that did very badly. As a

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matter of fact, they lost money. The record label lost

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a lot of money. Had they been on a major label,

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they would have been cut loose and we never would

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have heard from them again. But they said, hey, guys,

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it's okay, We're going to do one more album, and

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this one just needs to be a hit. Don't make

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some money, go go give us something that's a hit.

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we're about to jump into right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that album that you talked about was actually

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their third album. That album is called Silver Side Up.

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The song is how You Remind Me.

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Speaker 4: Never made it as a wise man. I couldn't cut

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in as a poor man stealing it. I oft living

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like a blind man. I'm six, simone out of sense.

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Speaker 3: Some fealing in.

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Speaker 4: This is album You Remind Me, This is You Remind Me?

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Speaker 3: Really okay.

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Speaker 1: This song was released July seventeenth, two thousand and one.

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It reached number one on the Hot one hundred and

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was the lead single for their third album, Silver Side Up.

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That album was released September eleventh, two thousand and one.

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I don't know if you remember, but there's a little

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something big that happened on that day, right, and a

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lot of people tie this song kind of with the

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memories of the World Trade Center disaster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so this song is considered their signature song.

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Rock Chad Kroger is writing this song, right, and he's

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just at his house. He's just got an acoustic guitar.

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and he goes over to their lead guitarist house, Ryan Peak,

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and he says, Hey, Ryan, I'm gonna play this for you.

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Tell me if it sucks or not. That's it, right,

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And so he starts playing it and Ryan is like, yeah, no,

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that's yeah, that's that's pretty good. Ryan's wife is up

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in their loft and she's like, that's a hit. That's

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a hit right there. Ye, she called it.

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Speaker 1: She I mean, we say a hit. I mean it's

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the most played song from two thousand and one to

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two thousand and nine streamed over one point two million times.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and two, the rumor is there was

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not a second of the entire year that this song

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was not playing on some radio stations somewhere. Mine. Sorry,

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I mean, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was an escapable.

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Speaker 1: And I asked our buddy deaf Dave if he's ever

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heard this song. Tony Stark was sick of hearing this

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song in the Afghanistan caves. Dave had never heard. Okay, hey,

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I'm the genesis of this song, though, so he did

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go to Peak's house to play it for him. The

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genesis was he was talking to his girlfriend. They got

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it an argument. He goes downstairs and he's like, he's

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so pissed. He cranks up his amp. He's like, I'm

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gonna work on music because I'm pissed at my girlfriend.

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written down in a book and he thought those were

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those were really good, and so he's like, Okay, I'm

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gonna use that in this song. And then also I'm

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gonna scream. It's not like you to say sorry. And

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he's like shooting missiles upstairs to let her know how

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unhappy he is. She says, what was that you were

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working on down there? And he's like, nothing, just song

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I was working on. She's like it was awesome. I

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loved it, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well he never made it as a wise man. This

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is basically like a sarcastic vengeful If you've ever been

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with someone or known someone who just can't ever just

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apologize for anything, this is so this is the song

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for them. It's not like you to say sorry and

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then you just get mad to be around him. And

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are we haven't fun yet? Are? It's sarcasm? Right? Are

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we haven't fun?

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Speaker 1: This sarcasm?

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Speaker 2: But the chord progression in the song it's relatively simple,

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it's not complex, but it's good. It's great and the

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dynamics of the song are incredible.

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Speaker 3: This is you make.

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Speaker 5: Me, This is you.

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Speaker 3: You're sorry.

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Speaker 2: One of our guys sent us a meme on this, say,

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what do they call the TikTok the reel or something

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one of those? Right, and it's it's it's this guy

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in his car, But like, this is what happens when

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you pull up to somebody who's blair and nickelback, and

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he's he's like looking out, shaking his head, putting his

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thumbs down, you know, until it hits that chorus, and

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all of a sudden, he's banging his head and he's singing,

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singing along to the song, because that's what you do

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to this song.

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Speaker 1: That's it, man, that's it. By the way, I got

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a little trivia nugget for you. I love the idea

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that this is the number one most played song on

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the radio in the first decade of the two thousands, right,

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one point two million times? Do you know the number

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Speaker 5: Train the Way You Love Him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that one. That one was everywhere all

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the time. My wife and I were dating in the

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in the same year, and that song was there all

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love that song too. I'm a

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sucker for these. Billboard ranked it as the number one

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song of that decade and the number four alternative rock song.

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It was brought in as a last second addition to

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that album and ended up being their signature song forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So they went from Hey record label. We're really

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sorry you spent all this money and we didn't make

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any for you too. Hey, guys, we're gonna have to

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We're gonna have to do a world tour. And they're like,

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I'm sorry, what a world tour? Like? You're going to Australia,

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you're going to Africa, you're going to Europe. What do

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you guys want? And they're like, what do you mean?

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on the stage. You've made enough money to pay for

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whatever you want and you're going to make more. What

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do you want?

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Speaker 1: They want a bathroom, they can play baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the king size bed big enough for ten

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plus me. That's right. So Chad Kroger, you know, he's

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been accused of being a frat guy. Not remotely is

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he the guy at all, But he's he's a guy

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who likes to drink beer and have fun like a

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fat guy would. And so do I write so? But

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he was he was like, what do you mean? What

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do I want? And they're like, you can just you know,

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tell us what. He was like, I want explosions, I

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want fire, I want a gigantic TV that everybody can

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see like he's literally he's like, I want to be

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a rock star, and that is exactly what they did.

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And since that day, no matter how much everybody seems

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to quote unquote hate them, they've been filling up arenas

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over and over and over. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've got a trivia question for you, and I gave

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this to you the other day, but I just am

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so in love with it I have to share it

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with our audience. Okay, Yeah, hit me, So, how you

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remind me? Hit number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred. Yes,

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that is the sixth total Canadian band hit number one

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on the American Billboard Top one hundred, sixth total.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh, okay, So but there was something that came after. Yes,

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they're the fifth chronologically. Yes, okay, all right, so let

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me try to remember I because I guessed a couple

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of these he did. Yeah. I said it had to

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be a band, right, Brian Adams was off the table.

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Speaker 1: That's right, got to be a band.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And without giving away too much, I know that

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one of the bands is Sheriff.

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Speaker 1: That's right. When I'm with You from nineteen eighty nine

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Patreon episode on it.

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Speaker 2: And it was a big secret at that point, but

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I guess we've just given it away. Guys. By the way,

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if you want to go listen to some of our

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Patreon episodes, we cover mostly one hit wonders and then

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some other fun songs along with them. You can sign

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the community. Man, just hit us up. We love talking

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to people, right yep? Okay, And I remember talking during

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that episode that I because I remember that the other

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band Aachman Turner Overdrug.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And the name of the song is you

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Ain't Seen Nothing Yet, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Of course four. By the way song, do you know

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that song was written as a joke. No, yeah, so

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you Ain't Seen Nothing like how he stutters through it.

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He was making fun of his brother and his brother

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had a stutter. They do this joke song as a

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way to make fun of him. Had no intention to

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release it, and then the record label hears it and

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they're like, this is a hit, guys, and they're like, no,

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this is a joke, and they're like, no, this is

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a hit, and they're like, well, let's record it without

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the stutter. They did it without the stutter, and it

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was like, yeah, it's not as good, put the stutter

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back in.

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Speaker 1: But bah bah baby, Wow, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, okay, and then there's one more.

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I can't remember who it is. Who's the third one

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that was.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you got American Woman by the Guests Who

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nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: You ain't seen nothing yet by Bto in seventy four,

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when I'm with You by Sheriff in eighty nine, One

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Week by the Bare Naked Ladies in nineteen ninety eight. Nice,

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and then a song called Rude by Magic in twenty fourteen,

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which I've never heard of. So this song has been

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covered by Avril Levine.

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Speaker 2: Who they were married, right, they.

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Speaker 1: Were marriage and Chad Kroger were married.

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Speaker 2: At one point and that I think is the only

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time he's been married. No kids.

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Speaker 1: They were married for a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't work out, Okay. I love talking about

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this song. This is obviously the song that broke them.

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But we got to keep on going. Let's real quick

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hit one that's not a Nickelback song but basically is,

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and that is the song from the Spider Man soundtrack

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by Chad Kroger called hero.

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Speaker 3: I Can you hear Him?

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Speaker 2: So for me, this is the song that I could

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not get enough of. I mean this one. I was

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just like, this is such a fantastic song, just played

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it over and over. Any chance I got, I would

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play this song. So this one, as I said, was

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for the Spider Man soundtrack. The unfortunate release date of

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Silverside Up spider Man. The trailer had this scene in

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it where Spider Man is like, basically I think saving

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a helicopter from crashing, and so he spins webs between

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the twin towers to catch the helicopter to save it.

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But then of course we had nine to eleven happened

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and they're like, oh, we got to cut that out.

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But it's yeah, just two times that the September or

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eleventh attacks have played a factor in these Nickelback songs.

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Speaker 1: This song was so big that summer of two thousand

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and two, my son went as Spider Man, little guy

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like one year old, dressed up and I made a

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little video and I put it to this song. This

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song peaked at number three July thirteenth of two thousand

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and two.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what the two songs are.

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Speaker 1: You can tell me if you've even recognized these. So

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number two is Without Me by Eminem Sure, I don't

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know that one. And number one is Hot in Here

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by Nelly.

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 1: But we knew this song loud and clear.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The cool thing to me is this is a collaboration.

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This is not Nickelback like you said. This is Chad

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Kroger and Josie Scott, who is the lead singer of

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a band called Saliva. And I saw Josie Scott talking

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about they were on the same tour together and like

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Saliva had opened for Nickelback, and Chad Kroger is like, hey,

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I've got some ideas. I thought maybe you and I

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could kind of work on a song together. And Jose

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Sctt's like, yeah, man, let's do this. And Jose Scott

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said he played that first line like I am so

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high I can hear heaven. He said he got chills,

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like right off the bat. He's like, this guy is

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an amazing songwriter. He's killing it right off the bat.

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This reached number one on the Modern Rock chart number

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one on the mainstream chart. It was Grammy nominated. It

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won the two thousand and two MTV Music Award for

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Best Video for a Film. To Me, this is the

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song of the Summer of two thousand and two. Love

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It Okay?

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Speaker 2: Moving on next song now.

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Speaker 1: This is off their next album called The Long Road,

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which was released in two thousand and three, and that

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song is called Someday.

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Speaker 3: Hold will you wind up like this? Why weren't we

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able to see the signs that way? Messed It said,

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let's say this. I wish you I'm planching.

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Speaker 1: Mass another banger.

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Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, I mean the lyrics on this one. You

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just take a little time just to look at these lyrics.

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They're well written lyrics. I don't know how anybody, says

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Vacuus who has actually looked at the lyrics that they've written.

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I mean, this is a intense moment. The girl is

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ready to walk out on him, and he says, I

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wish you would unclinch your fists and put your suitcase back.

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I don't want you to go. This is a heartfelt thing. No, man,

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right now, I just don't get it.

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Speaker 1: These guys have a knack of writing catchy, lighter rock songs.

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Speaker 2: Give def Leppard if you tuned in to find out why,

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like you didn't never understand it. Like I can't tell

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you how many people that I've polled in the last

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couple of weeks where I've been like, hey, how do

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you feel about Nickelback? And most of the time the

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answer is yeah, I mean they're okay. I never really

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understood the hate. Well, I'm about to explain it to

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you this. So we said that the song came out,

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this one right here, Someday came out in two thousand

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and three.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: There was another event that occurred in two thousand and three,

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which is probably the reason for the hate. This goes

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back to a comedian named Brian Poyce. He was a

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guy who was on The Mister Show with Bob and David.

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Heavier guy wore glasses, and he was on a Comedy

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Central show with Colin Quinn. All right, and he does

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what I would say is they're talking about whether the

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violent lyrics in songs actually promote real violence, and his

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joke is, I don't want to talk about the violent lyrics.

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I want to just talk about bad music that makes

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you want to be violent. He's like, Nickelback songs make

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me want to be violent towards Nickelback, Right, And that's it.

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That's the joke. Pretty innocuous, kind of a chuckle and

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throw it away. Here's the problem. Comedy Central chowse that

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little clip as part of the promo for that TV show,

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and they ran it for the next six months. No

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one talks about the studies that show that bad music

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makes people violent, like Nickelback makes me want to kill Nickelback.

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Two thousand and three is when the Internet starts exploding

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because it's just in your ear. You don't even really

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realize why, but it's in your ear for six months.

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People are taken to the Internet to say whatever they

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want to say now because it's open for them. It

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becomes a trend off of this one stupid little joke

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that was a throwaway, but because it happened to be

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part of an advertisement that ran for six solid months,

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it got on everybody's ear and everybody jumped on the bandwagon.

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Speaker 1: This is the equivalent of Lars throwing a dart at

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Kip Winger's face in the Metallica video.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like all of.

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Speaker 1: A sudden, everybody in the world is like, I hate Winger, right,

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wait a minute, five minutes ago, you love Winger.

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Speaker 2: There's this theory or syndrome called the tall poppy syndrome.

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It's not big in the US, but it's pretty well

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known in Canada and Australia. The idea is poppies, they're

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growing a big plant, but that some of them will

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grow taller than the rest. Okay, and to keep the

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plant looking good, you chop the heads off of the

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ones that have grown too tall. And this idea is

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sometimes things become so popular that people want to find

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a reason to chop them down. And we're talking about

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a band that the year before was on every second

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of the entire year. Of course the response is going

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to be, let's cut those guys down down, let's make

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some stuff up, let's make some hate. And it caught

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on and I saw an interview with the guy and

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they're like, you hate Nickelback and he's like yeah, and

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he goes why and he goes same reason everybody else does,

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because the Internet told us too, And that's it. That

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is the reason that everybody hates is because it became

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a viral hate and let me just tell you, guys,

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if you jumped on that bandwagon, you jumped in with

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the bullies. Okay, these guys have children that faced hate

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in their schools from other kids because they were kids

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of the guys in this band. These Chad Kroger, because

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he's the face of the band, would walk down the

473
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street and have people roll down the window to say

474
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,720
fuck you, your band sucks. That song Signed was on all

475
00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,119
the time, and I grew to hate it. But I

476
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,640
would never cuss at the members of Ace of base Right.

477
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,920
I mean, that's just ludicrous. If you don't like it,

478
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,160
don't listen to it. But why would you jump on

479
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:01,279
this bullying bandwagon that is spewing hate and violence towards

480
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:04,440
these guys. We're just writing songs that people.

481
00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary. These guys are cool dudes. I

482
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000
think they're all a lot of fun to hang out with,

483
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,440
and they make fun, catchy, pump your fist arena rock songs.

484
00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So what's our next fun pump your

485
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,599
fist arena rock song?

486
00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,039
Speaker 1: Okay, this is not a pump your fist song, huh,

487
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:26,559
but this might be one of the best songs of

488
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:27,920
the first decade of the two thousands.

489
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,839
Speaker 2: Oh, you're saying, these guys have variety in their music.

490
00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:33,319
They're not only an arena rock band. They actually have

491
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,599
different types of songs.

492
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,839
Speaker 1: This song blows my socks. It is a top ten

493
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,200
song for me the first decade of the two thousand.

494
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:52,160
That song is called Photograph.

495
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, we covered that one back in Season one. Everybody,

496
00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,039
if you'd like to go check out the Pyromania album.

497
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, and I love that song too.

498
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,640
So let's play this one Photograph by Nicoback.

499
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:11,839
Speaker 3: Look at this photograph having someone. It makes me laugh

500
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:17,240
at it as get solid. What the hell is on?

501
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:23,039
Julie said, this is where I grew up. I'm big

502
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,440
the president. I want to fix it up. I never

503
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,759
knew he ever went out the second.

504
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm better stop it. We're gonna listen to the whole song.

505
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: It's hard to turn it off. The song, just you

506
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480
just said, it keeps leveling up and leveling up.

507
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,279
Speaker 1: It's one of those rare songs where the verses are

508
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,920
great enough to catch me. The chorus tackles me and

509
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720
puts me in jail, and then at the end of

510
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,400
the song, as it's trailing out you have this wonderful

511
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,039
like I love this town, I love this place. It

512
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:55,799
affects me emotionally. Yeah, I absolutely love this one. This

513
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,200
is my favorite nicobaccent.

514
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:22,759
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. So this is in the Vein of Glory

515
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:26,400
Days by Bruce Springsteen. Summer sixty nine by Brian Adams.

516
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,839
This is about what it was like when we were kids.

517
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 6: Right.

518
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,319
Speaker 2: What I love is that it's literally about his life.

519
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,039
If you go through the lyrics, it says criminal record

520
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,519
says I broke in twice, must have done it half

521
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:43,079
a dozen times. Chad Kroger was on the verge of

522
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240
going to jail for a long time before he figured

523
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,240
out how to get out of that town and make

524
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,759
some music. Fourteen, he had multiple breaking and enterings. He

525
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:54,440
got caught breaking into his school, and he was like,

526
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,799
I didn't even like to go to school. Why would

527
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,400
I have broken into it? But it's this sweet I

528
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,759
remember those good old days, even though they were not

529
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,400
that great, still good old days. I remember the great things.

530
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,279
This band was not always called Nickelback.

531
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,559
Speaker 1: Before you go and tell us the history of the band,

532
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,200
I've got the story on what's on Joey's head. Okay, Right,

533
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359
so I heard Chad Kruger say he came up with

534
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,359
the line look at this photograph, and he's like, what

535
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,359
photograph am I thinking of when I'm writing these lyrics?

536
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: Right?

537
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,039
Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, the photograph that always makes

538
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:29,920
me laugh is the one from New Year's Eve a

539
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,799
few years ago with their producer, Joey moy. He's like,

540
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,039
we were so hammered and it was New Year's Eve

541
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,279
and we were having a great time and he had

542
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,960
this giant like wine chiller thing on his head. He

543
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,279
said it looked like the Stanley cup. And you take

544
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:47,279
photos and later you're like, what the what were we

545
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,359
doing there? Man? I mean, that's good. So that's the

546
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,680
answer to the question what was on Joey's head? Yeah,

547
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,839
the giant wine chiller. It looks like a Stanley cup.

548
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: So this band starts off in Little Hannah Alberta, Mike Krueger,

549
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:02,079
Chad Krueger, and Ryan and on the drums they've got

550
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,440
their cousin, Brandon Krueger.

551
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: That's right.

552
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:06,599
Speaker 2: And I think Chad had to go live with Brandon

553
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,160
for a while because of all of the criminal problems

554
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,400
that he was having. Yes, but the band at that

555
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:16,119
time was called Village Idiot, right, and they had a

556
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,920
different lead singer. Ultimately, Brandon leaves the band later on,

557
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,200
just decides, Hey, this touring thing isn't for me this,

558
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,200
you know. A couple of years later before they really

559
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,559
hit right, they have another drummer that is from Hannah

560
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:31,000
that plays with them, and he does. He's on their

561
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,359
first few albums. But then okay, Brandon Krueger was their cousin.

562
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,000
He was playing drums on their first couple of albums,

563
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000
which weren't record label albums, right, This was Heysher and

564
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:45,400
Curb right, and then he was like, hey, guys, I

565
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:47,839
just the band life is not for me. I want

566
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,880
to go do something else. And then they get a

567
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,599
guy named Mitch Gwindon who played songs on the State,

568
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200
which was what they did in nineteen ninety eight that album.

569
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,039
He didn't get credited though, right, but he's just another

570
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,079
local guy. But again, just didn't feel like he was

571
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,480
right for the band. I'm telling you all this to

572
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,200
tell you that just a few years ago he calls

573
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,960
them up and he's like, hey, guys, you know, I

574
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,279
know that the likelihood that you're actually gonna do this

575
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,000
is low, but I just thought, maybe you like to

576
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000
come back to hannah hometown and play but not as

577
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:20,440
nickelback as village idiot, and they.

578
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,079
Speaker 1: Said, yes, I love it.

579
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: They all came back. I mean, they're running into their

580
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,880
high school friends and it's the first time they've been

581
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,599
back in forever. And Chad Krueger is like, yeah, I

582
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,599
used to break into that window right up there. That's

583
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,839
how I would get into this house. When they play

584
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
all of the old cover songs that they used to

585
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,319
play when they were a village idiot for the community

586
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:42,519
to help raise money for charity.

587
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Over there, I absolutely love that.

588
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:44,799
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.

589
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,319
Speaker 1: And you know, everybody comes from somewhere. Yeah, and they

590
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,359
are in the you know, Canadian Music Hall of Fame now,

591
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,039
all right, and they're from little bitty Hannah.

592
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: I can't imagine if I was in that crowd if

593
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,359
they played the song photograph, I don't know that there

594
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,839
could have been a dry in the house. Absolutely, the

595
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920
nature of the song and then being back after becoming

596
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,920
so big and being gone so many years, it would

597
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,039
have it would have moved anybody to tears.

598
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Especially when you close with I love this town, I

599
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:32,759
love these faces. That whole thing just hits my heart absolutely.

600
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,400
By the way, this song hit number two on the

601
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,839
Billboard Hot one hundred. Number one was gold Digger by

602
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,359
Kanye West and Jamie Bucks. I do think it's interesting

603
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,440
Ryan Peak. When Chad Krueger brought this song to Ryan Peak,

604
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,920
Ryan Peak was the one who said, I think the

605
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,720
chorus needs to be the bridge, and the bridge needs

606
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:53,799
to be the chorus. And that's sort of the magic.

607
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,519
Speaker 2: That happened that made this song great, fantastic.

608
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: In October of twenty nineteen, Donald Trump tweeted a bit

609
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:02,640
that used this song. I don't know what the tweet

610
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,519
was about, right, but Chad thought it was hilarious, right.

611
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480
He thought it was a scream that Trump is using

612
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,599
his song for some tweet that goes viral on the internet.

613
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,640
He said, because of that tweet alone, the song Photograph

614
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:21,160
was played an additional seven hundred million times, laughing all

615
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,240
the way to the bank.

616
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: That's an interesting idea, right there. You know, we've talked

617
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,759
about other bands like Twisted Sister, who have said to

618
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,279
certain political figures, hey, I don't want you to use

619
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,240
my song. You know. Don Henley famously has said, noe,

620
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,359
please stop using my song, right and so it's interesting

621
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
to me that the bands do this. Now. I get

622
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,279
it if you've got this really strong political stance, but

623
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,279
I mean, these guys are from Canada. What do they care?

624
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,640
But the idea that they're so widely hated. Mike Krueger

625
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,640
has gone so far as to say, guys, we need

626
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,079
to embrace this hate because it's given us legs for

627
00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:00,400
the last twenty years. He's right. I mean the album

628
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,799
that I grew to love because we're doing this episode

629
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,119
and because I was like, well, I guess I should

630
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440
listen to Nickelback and see if they're any good. The

631
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,200
one that I grew to love came out in two

632
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,240
thousand and eight. Like they've been going a long time,

633
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,400
and they've had albums. I mean, they had an album

634
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,960
a year or two ago, but I don't know any

635
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,559
of the songs that have come out in the last

636
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:19,640
ten years. But the fact that they've got all of

637
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720
this hate number one, it keeps their names in people's mouths,

638
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,000
just like that viral video from Trump did, and causes

639
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:29,160
people to go download their music seven hundred million times,

640
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,480
And it also creates a reaction for all of those

641
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,079
folks who do like them they're like, hey, screw you, guys,

642
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,359
and this is really what this is really what rock

643
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,599
and roll is all about. If you're not hated at

644
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,279
least a little bit, you're not really a rock band.

645
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I posted a meme on our Facebook page two days ago.

646
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:51,119
That's a picture of Chad Kruger holding up and it says,

647
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,880
look at this photograph. Huh And it was the Northern

648
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,319
Lights that everybody was working pictures.

649
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,839
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen to Candlebox, No, you know what I mean,

650
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,079
does not Yeah, or the Meat Puppets. That's right, by

651
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:04,880
the way, guys, go check out our Best of nineteen

652
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,599
ninety four episode that we pulled out a few weeks ago.

653
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,359
Ready to move on to the next song, where we

654
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:10,119
got next song list?

655
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: So the next song was the second single released from

656
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,319
all the right reasons. That song is called Animals.

657
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: So here's the arena rock fist pumping anthem that I

658
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:37,640
was looking for.

659
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely this is about you and your girlfriend doing it

660
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:43,319
like animals.

661
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,519
Speaker 2: Well, we've heard a few bands do that exactly. I

662
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:50,440
think that's actually the lyrics of one of those animal

663
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,680
songs I believe Ruined five.

664
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: There you go. Anyway, fun song, right, this is a

665
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:55,759
concert song.

666
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: Don't Know that you are missing.

667
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: They showed some footage of the documentary and people are dancing, singing, partying,

668
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:19,920
having a good time. And I guarantee there are babies

669
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,599
made after Nickelback comes to town. Without a doubt, But.

670
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:26,599
Speaker 2: This song escaped my listening, Like They've got a huge

671
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:28,519
catalog and I'm just trying to prep for this thing.

672
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,320
I missed this one. I know that they use this

673
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,760
to open up shows because everybody loves this song. They

674
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880
like banging their heads and pumping their fists and does

675
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,719
it sound like a great hard rock song? Yes.

676
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,119
Speaker 1: I loved how in the documentary they were talking about

677
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,159
how they've gotten big enough where each guy can have

678
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,360
their own tour bus, right, And so Ryan Peek he's

679
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,840
got his dog, his wife, his little boy, and they

680
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,920
have the little family bush. Chad has the party bus.

681
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,679
Even Mike Krueger is like, I can't go on Chad's

682
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:01,280
bus because I like being.

683
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Married, right, right, right, that's right? Yeah, his Mike and Chad,

684
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,320
I mean, obviously they grew up together. And so Mike

685
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:12,559
is the older brother. He's a couple years older than Chad, right,

686
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239
And he was always the guy who was protecting Chad.

687
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,280
Chad is the if there was trouble to be made,

688
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,199
he was making it. Kid and Mike is that rule follower, right.

689
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,800
He's a great dad, wants to stay married, wants to

690
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,679
have that very normal life in addition to being a

691
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,480
guy who is an arena packing rock star. Sure at

692
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,559
some point he's like, Chad, you know, before they're famous,

693
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,599
He's like, why do you keep doing this? Like why

694
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,519
do you keep breaking the rules? And Chad is like, listen, man,

695
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,320
I just got to tell you there's no amount of

696
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719
trouble I can get in that I can't talk myself

697
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,320
out of. And so that kind of mentality led to

698
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:57,119
a guy who was a great front man for a

699
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,840
band that wants to be super successful. What being able

700
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,280
to bs your way through situations get you is things

701
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,519
you might not get if you just follow the rules,

702
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,960
and that's what they needed to make their big hit. So,

703
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:14,320
for example, their first album they financed by asking other

704
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320
people for money. It was a thirty thousand dollars venture

705
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,440
and they didn't have thirty grand Chad literally says to

706
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:23,960
Ryan Peak, He's like, hey, man, your parents have the

707
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,280
capacity to loan thiss money and I can tell you

708
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,199
we're gonna make it. We are gonna be a success.

709
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,599
The writing is on the wall.

710
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,639
Speaker 1: It was not right right.

711
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that album wasn't success success. The next album

712
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,199
wasn't a success, The next one on a record label

713
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,880
was not a success. Like he was bsing his way

714
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,480
through it, and he kept bsing long enough until ultimately.

715
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: He was right, Hey, I gotta tell you while we're

716
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,360
right here. Yeah, how did they get the name Nickelback?

717
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: So this is the nineties, so of course you know

718
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,559
one in five guys works at Starbucks. Well, one of

719
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,599
those guys was my Krueger, and so you know what

720
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,639
was coffee? It's four dollars and ninety five cents. Somebody

721
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:06,239
to give him a five and you go, thanks, here's

722
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,519
your Nickelback.

723
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: One of the biggest bands ever. And the guy's making change,

724
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:12,559
giving people nickels.

725
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: That's Starbucks.

726
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,199
Speaker 4: Hey.

727
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: You know one of the moments in the documentary that

728
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,320
really touched my heart is that they didn't have great

729
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,320
dad figures in their lives, right, And one weekend it

730
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,760
was supposed to be time with Dad and Dad doesn't

731
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,280
show and Mike has fallen apart the seams, and mom

732
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,000
says to Mike, I don't know why you're so upset.

733
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:35,320
He's not even your real dad anyway. Yeah, and it

734
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,559
was like record scratch, what right? What a terrible time

735
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,360
to tell your children the truth.

736
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:45,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she said it, you know, she was just like,

737
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,199
I did not handle that situation right. I made a mistake.

738
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,800
It was a terrible thing to do, and I regret

739
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
it to this day. Yeah. But here's the rest of

740
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,119
that story. Number One, the guy that he thought was

741
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,639
his dad, I mean, he never really was around that much.

742
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,239
He was kind of a ne'er do well as well,

743
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,559
right at the racetrack, like putting the horses in and

744
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:05,480
stuff like that. Ultimately, Mike was like, hey, I'm going

745
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:07,119
to try to figure out who my real dad is.

746
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:08,639
And this has just been in the last few years.

747
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,000
This event occurred when there are kids. He finally basically

748
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,679
tracked down who his dad was. The sad part of

749
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,960
the story was the guy had just passed away the

750
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,000
year before, so he never got to meet him. Okay,

751
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:24,599
but he now has a new brother and a new sister,

752
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,480
and new cousins and new family members that have welcomed

753
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,880
him in and become He's found a new family and

754
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,079
it's really kind of this bittersweet result of this whole thing.

755
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,840
And the guy who was Chad's dad, right, who Mike

756
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,920
thought was his dad. They're about to go on out

757
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,159
on their first to like we've got this rickety old van.

758
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,000
We're going to go from place to place in Alberta.

759
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,039
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, and five hours to the next gas

760
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:51,920
station boys.

761
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,639
Speaker 2: And Chad is like, man, I wish I just I

762
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,800
just wish I had a decent guitar and decent amp.

763
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,159
You know, it's just kind of not good. And his dad,

764
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,280
I mean, they're at a bar and his dad's like,

765
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:04,719
what kind of guitar? If you could pick your guitar,

766
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,159
what kind of guitar would it be? And what kind

767
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,840
of amp would it be? Chad tells him. He's like okay,

768
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,119
and how much would that cost? And he's like like

769
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,280
four thousand dollars. I mean it's a lot. And his

770
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,639
dad starts going around at the bar to all of

771
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,559
his friends and he's like, hey, my kid needs money

772
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,559
for a guitar, and an amp helped me out, makes

773
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:24,880
the rounds in the bar, comes back and sets down

774
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,920
four thousand dollars. I can tell you that having A

775
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,360
good guitar and a good amp is an absolute difference

776
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,960
maker for being a successful live band. If you've got

777
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,519
crappy equipment, people will not like to listen to you.

778
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,639
It made or broken the band in that situation. I

779
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:40,960
love it.

780
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: I love it. By the way, we talked about how

781
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,840
they toured and all these little ratty places around Canada.

782
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,960
They went to one place in bamf which is.

783
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: You know, bam baff. Here we are in bam bamf.

784
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: Is on my bucket list. I would absolutely love to

785
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,280
go there. They went to play this gig. Not one

786
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:01,239
scene person showed up.

787
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and if you as the band, if people

788
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,400
don't show up, you don't get paid.

789
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,119
Speaker 3: Jeez.

790
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,679
Speaker 1: They kept going Yeah. Next song, yep. Next song is

791
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:12,000
called far Away.

792
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 3: This time this please bexcused.

793
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,679
Speaker 2: So here's a song for the Makeout List of two

794
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,440
thousand and six.

795
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Release January twenty third, two thousand and six. This peak's

796
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,599
at number eight in two thousand and six, the number

797
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,599
one song that week. I actually recognized sexy Back by

798
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:38,840
Justin Timberlake.

799
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:39,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

800
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: This was their fourth top ten single, and it's about

801
00:40:42,800 --> 00:41:02,119
loving somebody no matter what. I was talking to our

802
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:05,039
buddy Jeff Johnson, who claims to not be a Nickelback fan,

803
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,599
called though I'm hoping to change his mind. He is

804
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,719
a fan of certain songs but wants them to kind

805
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,480
of stay in their lane.

806
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: That was kind of his complaint. Well, here's let me

807
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,519
just say this on that note. Yeah, I haven't met

808
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:20,000
anybody who says I hate Nickelback other than Amanda Janic,

809
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:24,519
and Amanda Janic after watching the documentary, was like, Okay,

810
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:26,599
I kind of want to have a beer with Chad Krueger,

811
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,079
Like even she would even the needle move for her. Now,

812
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,119
I don't think that she's turning up any of their songs,

813
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:34,880
but I don't think she hates them anymore. And other

814
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,199
than her, I've never met somebody who outright says I

815
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,360
hate them. Right, it's just the Internet.

816
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: After watching the documentary, you realize the adversity that these

817
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,719
guys have endured. Number one for being the whipping boy

818
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,719
publicly on the internet, for being a bad rock band

819
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,480
which they are not, having bad songs, which they don't.

820
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,639
And then you see things like Mike Krueger had a stroke, yeah,

821
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,079
and I had to learn to walk again, yeah, And

822
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:06,199
then their longtime drummer Daniel Adair develops this neurological disorder

823
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,800
in his arm and it's like frozen shoulder. He can't

824
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,679
play the drums anything.

825
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: This story made me tear up. I want to tell

826
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,840
this the story. This is during COVID. You don't know

827
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,800
when they're going to play next, right, But he's trying

828
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,039
to stay in shape, but his arm is he says,

829
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,800
it's like granted, like he's doing everything he can, but

830
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,880
his arm just locks and won't do anything. And he's like,

831
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,840
I can't. I can't be a drummer. And so ultimately

832
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,800
he talks to his wife and he's like, I just

833
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,320
have to quit. I have to quit the band. I

834
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,440
can't hold him back. And so he sends an email

835
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,880
and just is like, hey, guys, you know I can't

836
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,119
do it anymore. I'm sorry, I have to quit. Send right,

837
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:43,360
and he's like within five minutes, the phone is ringing

838
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,119
and his wife answers the phone and she's like it's

839
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,639
chat and he's like, just tell him I'll call him back, right.

840
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,119
So he gets control of himself, goes and sits in

841
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:55,159
the car, calls him on the cell phone and he's

842
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:59,320
like hey, and she has like anybody.

843
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:00,519
Speaker 4: Did.

844
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,599
Speaker 2: And then he's like, this guy is he was their

845
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:09,320
fourth drummer, right, and he came from three doors down.

846
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: He left three doors down, left.

847
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,079
Speaker 2: Three doors down at this very kind of critical moment

848
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:15,880
when they were not really that big of a band,

849
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
and decided to go with them. But because he wasn't

850
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,239
an original guy, didn't go to high school with these guys,

851
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,159
he always kind of felt like not a full member

852
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,280
of the band. And they all love him, you know,

853
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,159
they talk about how crazy is and how funny is.

854
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:32,000
But he's just like, you know, they've got stories that

855
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:34,679
are just their stories. Those guys went to high school together,

856
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,199
and so I always just was like, you know, I

857
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,920
feel like slightly like an outsider. But he's having this

858
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,239
conversation with Chad and he's like Chad is like, listen, buddy,

859
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,960
we have money. Let's figure out what's wrong. We'll figure

860
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,519
out who the best person is to treat whatever it

861
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,760
is that you have, and we'll get you taken care of.

862
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,280
But you know, it's so much. And he's like, yeah,

863
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,440
but we want you in the band, We want you,

864
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,559
we want you.

865
00:43:58,119 --> 00:43:58,599
Speaker 1: I love it.

866
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: Man, broke my heart. It's like, oh, these are good guys,

867
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,239
even the most reckless wild member of the band is

868
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,079
a decent guy with a good heart.

869
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: Yes, love it. Let's turn to maybe the most fun

870
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,119
song we're gonna talk about. Okay, this song is called

871
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,199
rock Star.

872
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,679
Speaker 4: Was standing in line the clubs of never Again. It's

873
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,280
like the bottom of the nine that I'm never on

874
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,800
a win. This five hasn't turned out quite the way.

875
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: To what you want.

876
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,519
Speaker 4: I want a brand new sound of an episode of

877
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:38,400
Crams and a bathroom I can play basebowl in and

878
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,079
a gang size time begging nine.

879
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: Ten plus me.

880
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So this was the nickelback song that I've always loved,

881
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,119
like the first time that I heard it. Up until

882
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:52,079
this moment right here, I have loved it. And because

883
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:53,960
we've been covering this band, and because I've been listening

884
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,599
to their various songs, this song I've sung in my

885
00:44:57,639 --> 00:44:59,920
head more times in the last two weeks than ever

886
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,079
before because it is a friggin' earworm. Like you, you

887
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:08,360
can't stop singing it once you know these words, right, fantastic.

888
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,280
But this may be part two of why this is

889
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,960
a hated band.

890
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: Interesting bab might even got mine and change my name

891
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:25,360
goes God want me bag Rockstarnhill, Time Bosses, Driving fifteen Cows.

892
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 6: The Girl's Gun and the Drugs Gun, Sheep, Wlast Day's

893
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:32,039
Skinny as we just wanting Well.

894
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: So, the interesting thing about this song is that it

895
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,079
was released originally in two thousand and six and did

896
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:41,800
basically nothing. It was released without a video, but the

897
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,039
record label is like, you know what, that's a great song.

898
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,639
We need to give it a second line.

899
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: Hey, I want to be a rockstar.

900
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:55,639
Speaker 3: I want to be a rockstar.

901
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: So they re released it in two thousand and seven

902
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,719
with a killer video full of celebrity lip sinkers and

903
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,280
random people on the streets and random people on the street,

904
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,159
and it becomes a number six hit on the Hot

905
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,960
one hundred. Yeah, listen to this list of celebrities that's

906
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,360
in this video. Freaking So you've got Billy Gibbons from

907
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,639
zz Top who also is featured singing if you can.

908
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: Call it that, the little deep voice parts.

909
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: Tell me what you want.

910
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

911
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: By the way, he's supposed to be the voice of

912
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,679
the devil. Oh wow, Okay, that's what he's playing. I

913
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,480
want to be a rock star and.

914
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I was gonna say in the video, he's

915
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920
sitting in front of like skulls and flames and stuff.

916
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,840
So yeah, I could see that.

917
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:35,199
Speaker 6: Ye.

918
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: Right, so you've got tastefully done the skulls and things

919
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:39,599
in flames.

920
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,199
Speaker 1: But right, so Billy Gibbons from Zezi Top. You've got

921
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,719
UFC Fighter, Chuck the Iceman Liddell, he's got a guy

922
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,639
in a headlock, and it's really funny. You have Dale

923
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,639
Earnhardt Junior. You have Eliza Douschku, she's the little girl

924
00:46:54,639 --> 00:47:00,239
from True Lies, Dana hang on to the Yeah, okay, yeah.

925
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: I knew you would know that one.

926
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: You have Gene Simmons yep from Kiss.

927
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

928
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: You've got Grant Hill, world famous basketball player. You've got

929
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:12,119
Wayne Gretzky, nice Canada, mister Canada. You got Kendra Holly

930
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:14,400
and Bridget the Playboy Bunnies.

931
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,559
Speaker 2: That Eric, You've got a playboy bunny to spend my

932
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:18,760
money for me. That's it.

933
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: You've got Kid Rock. You've got the guys from American Chopper.

934
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,639
You've got Ted Nugent. You've got Cynthia Taylor, Dominic Swain,

935
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,159
all these beautiful, great successful people. And then you've got

936
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:31,599
people out the street singer rockstar.

937
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: I love the video people just lip syncing the song.

938
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:36,960
Did the band even show up and for this video? Like,

939
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,360
are they in it at all? I don't know if

940
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,360
they are all right. So the reason that this is

941
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,280
part two of why they're a hated band is because

942
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,760
they licensed this song to a furniture company okay in

943
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,079
the UK. And I don't know if it was before

944
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,599
they did the video release and the song became big

945
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,639
like it's second release. I don't know if it was

946
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:01,039
in that stage or if it was after it. But

947
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,000
if you watch this furniture video, I mean, it's cheesy.

948
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:10,800
It's like low grade, low quality commercial. People are lip

949
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,480
singing the song, playing a lamp as an air guitar,

950
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,559
and jumping up and down on the furniture and it's

951
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,920
a lame commercial. And these guys are one of the

952
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,440
most popular bands in the world and they're licensing their

953
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,840
song to this And it was just this idea that

954
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,360
they're just they'll sell their songs to whoever wants to

955
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,559
buy them. Okay, have I introduced you guys to Bonjovi yet?

956
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:32,280
Because they literally said they will hoore themselves out for anything, right,

957
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,960
But I'm wondering if maybe it was in that in

958
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,960
between stage where they're like, well, you know, we thought

959
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,320
this was a great song, but it didn't really do much,

960
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,800
and so hey, if they like it they want to

961
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,760
use it, sure, why not maybe? And then it turned

962
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,639
to bite them because everybody's like, see, they're just sellouts.

963
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,039
Speaker 1: This is such a fun song. And I heard them

964
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:53,280
talking about how they have released thirty three singles so far. Well,

965
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,519
you can't play thirty three songs in concert, but you

966
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,159
can't not play rock Star. This is a song that

967
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,039
they have to play every time they're in concert.

968
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the big Rocks bosses dropping fifteen.

969
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 6: Cows, the Girl's County and the drugs count Cheap, the

970
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,719
Last Day's Skinny as We're.

971
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 3: Just wanting and well and the cool is bos and

972
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,639
the bey me with the move do every good gold

973
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,400
dig is gone.

974
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: And for those folks who you jumped on that bandwagon

975
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,880
to say, you know, look at them selling their music

976
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,400
to a dumb little furniture company in the UK. I

977
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,000
would like to quote the Lawyer from the documentary. I

978
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,159
love the Lawyer man, like he's a character. He's got

979
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,719
long hair and it's kind of heavy and just you know,

980
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,159
he looks like a rock and roll lawyer, but I

981
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,880
think that's by design. He's me as a rock and

982
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:49,840
roll lawyer, right, Like he's a small town attorney. He

983
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,639
reminded me of Doc McGee a little bit, except that

984
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,079
he's not big. This guy is nothing except for nickelback,

985
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,800
and he was with them before they were big. He's

986
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,480
just trying to help them, Like they came to him

987
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,599
because they had a contract and they wanted it to

988
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,239
make sure they didn't get screwed cheap, and he was cheap, right, right,

989
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,719
So he's talking about he's continued to help them out

990
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,440
throughout this whole process. But they struggled a lot. You know.

991
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:16,280
They were riding in a van that looked like it

992
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,679
was going to break down, and they were going to

993
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,199
these tiny clubs where nobody would show up, and they

994
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,719
were paying for their first CD with money they borrowed

995
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,239
from their parents. I mean, they're gutting it out. And

996
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,760
he's this guy. Just imagine him, right, like long, gray haired,

997
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,960
kind of stubbly faced guy, right, and he's like everybody

998
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,159
pulled together as a team and sort of moved the

999
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,559
ball down the field. So to those of you who

1000
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:44,280
see the band as some big corporate sell out.

1001
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,119
Speaker 1: You Okay, d So let's talk about the seventh and

1002
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,440
final single from all the right reasons. This song is

1003
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:54,400
called side of a Bullet.

1004
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 3: Shoot me Aler on the.

1005
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,559
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're going to talk about guys you like

1006
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,639
this band even though everybody else hates them, right, Yeah.

1007
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,840
And one of the guys that likes this band is

1008
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,960
a guy named Vinni Paul. He was one of the

1009
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:34,480
founders of a band called Pantera. And if you haven't

1010
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:37,119
heard of Pantera, then you are either not from Oklahoma,

1011
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:41,039
Texas or Louisiana, which is where they grew to mild

1012
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:43,480
fame before they hit the big scene. But they are

1013
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,760
a heavy metal band and almost assuredly, even if you

1014
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,159
haven't heard of Pantera, you've heard of the other founder

1015
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:57,480
of the band, Diamond Bag DARRYL Abbott, Yes, tragically December eighth,

1016
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:00,800
two thousand and four, almost exactly twenty years dime Bag

1017
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,039
Daryl and his brother Vinny Paul had formed a new

1018
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,800
band and they were playing a show and a guy

1019
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,880
named Nathan Gale, who had been he'd been in the military,

1020
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,119
was kind of a ne'er. Dwell had some mental issues.

1021
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,840
Ultimately got discharged from the military because he was diagnosed

1022
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,719
with paranoid schizophrenia. Tragically, his mental health went significantly downhill

1023
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,079
after that, and for reasons that are still not completely clear.

1024
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,239
One night, December eighth, two thousand and four, he went

1025
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,880
to this new band's concert called Damage Plan, got up

1026
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,599
on stage and used the nine millimeter to shoot Dimebag

1027
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Daryl in the head multiple times, ended up killing at

1028
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,599
least three people there before he was ultimately shot by

1029
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:51,960
a police officer who responded to a nine to one

1030
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,920
one call. Impressive time too, Like three minutes after the

1031
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,719
nine one one call, he's there and he took this

1032
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:03,639
guy out, this Nathan Gaale out, And this was devastating

1033
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,280
to the rock and roll community. Dine Bag Daryl was

1034
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:10,800
a hero to many guitarists out there. He is an

1035
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,000
incredible guitarist himself, and he was also a hero for

1036
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,079
the guys from Nickelback, But it was them who dine Bag.

1037
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:22,480
Darrell's brother, Vinnie Paul said, I want you guys to

1038
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,679
have a guitar solo that he had recorded that had

1039
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,800
never been released. I want you to have it and

1040
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,480
you use it in your song. That's the tribute to

1041
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:34,320
dine Back Daryl, and that's this song side of a Bullet.

1042
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: They actually invited Vinnie Paul to play drums on this album,

1043
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,599
but Vinnie's like, man, there's nothing that I could do

1044
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,280
that Daniel can do. Yeah, But I do love the

1045
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,559
idea that they were allowed to sort of pill for

1046
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:51,000
the library and piece together this guitar solo that dine

1047
00:53:51,039 --> 00:54:20,119
Back Darrel played, Yeah, And I love the fact that

1048
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:22,840
these guys are friends, right, the Pantera guys are friends

1049
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,440
with the Nickelback guys. I heard Chad Krueger say that

1050
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,559
the guy in the limo one time and the Pantera

1051
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:31,480
guys were listening to Christina Aguilera, and he's like, what

1052
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,079
do you guys do it? And they're like, we just

1053
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:34,400
love all types of music.

1054
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:38,679
Speaker 2: I listened to Richard Marx talk about how Hysteria was

1055
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,000
like he pulled the album and he went to his

1056
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:43,039
producer and he's like, I want my next album to

1057
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:48,480
sound like this, and would blatantly steal ideas from that album.

1058
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,760
And then later after his album came out, Phil Collin

1059
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,800
is like, hey, you should come over the studio. We're

1060
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,519
putting together a new album. He comes over and he

1061
00:54:56,599 --> 00:54:59,480
sees his CD. He sees the Richard Mark CD there

1062
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,559
and he's like, oh, okay, guys, thanks, thanks for just

1063
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,760
planning my CD, like you listen to me and they're like, no,

1064
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,320
we love how this sounds. We're totally like stealing your

1065
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,679
ideas right now. So literally he stole from def Leppard,

1066
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,719
who then stole back from him on the album that

1067
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,519
he stole them from.

1068
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: That's right.

1069
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: And Cliff Burton I saw an article before he passed

1070
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,800
where he was listening to the police. You wouldn't expect

1071
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,679
the guys from this thrash metal band to be listening

1072
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,360
to the police. But guys, people who love music and

1073
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,039
musicians love music. They listen to all types of music.

1074
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,360
They're always looking for something that is good and just

1075
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,519
because it's popular doesn't mean.

1076
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: It's bad, right, That's right. This reach number seven on

1077
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:44,840
the Mainstream Rock chart. This was only released to US

1078
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,519
rock stations and it became their fourth top ten hit.

1079
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: From All the Right Reasons. Fantastic great song, tragic story,

1080
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,840
but what a what a tribute. Awesome. Yeah.

1081
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Next song song called if today was your Last day?

1082
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 3: My best friend game the best and he said he

1083
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,239
stays a game.

1084
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 4: Then again and ride be no Stone and turn leave your.

1085
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: Fings be at pad.

1086
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: So this is the This is the first song off

1087
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:25,800
of what has become in the last few weeks my

1088
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,239
favorite Nickelback album right right.

1089
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: This album is called dark Horse, released in two thousand

1090
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:31,079
and eight.

1091
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:36,159
Speaker 3: You have said it was your last day. It's a

1092
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,519
motto to say good bys today.

1093
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, So because Spotify wants to make me happy, right

1094
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,760
it says, oh, hey, you liked this song. And I'm

1095
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,199
listening to a lot of Nickelback songs trying to get

1096
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,960
familiar with things before we have this episode. As I

1097
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,679
work out in the mornings, I've got this Andy's workout

1098
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,199
playlist that I'll play, and I have it where it

1099
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,480
suggests a song every three songs, and they were very

1100
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:10,199
happy to suggest a lot of Nickelback song and I

1101
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:13,119
would be like, oh, crap, dang, this is good. I've

1102
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:16,320
never heard this. And as I kept hearing these new

1103
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,400
Nickelback songs, every single one of them was off this

1104
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:24,199
dark Horse album and they're fantastic. The whole album is

1105
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:28,559
full of bangers. But this is a good five years

1106
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,519
into the let's jump on that. We hate Nickelback Bandwagon,

1107
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,639
so I just didn't hear him as much. Rolling Stone

1108
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,639
flat out said, we will not publish any Nickelback positive articles.

1109
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,679
Screw them, man, Like a guy that works for him

1110
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,960
listened to the album, had intelligent, good things to say

1111
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:50,440
about the album, and brought his review to the editorial

1112
00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:53,480
staff and they said, no, we're not publishing this. It's like, why,

1113
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:55,400
what's wrong with it? And they're like, we do not

1114
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:59,199
publish songs that put a positive spin on Knickelback. What

1115
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,679
Stone has just lost several cool points in my book

1116
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,199
for that kind of attitude. That is ridiculous.

1117
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Right, by the way, I called you the other day,

1118
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,079
I'm like, okay, do you've told me that you love

1119
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:13,000
this album and that there's a banger after banger after banger.

1120
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1121
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: And I said, do you know who the producer of

1122
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:17,239
Dark Horse is?

1123
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,119
Speaker 2: And I did not know, and I was.

1124
00:58:19,159 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: Pleased to tell you that it is Robert John Mutt Langah.

1125
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:27,679
Heck yeah, Mutt Lange, No wonder. That's so good, right.

1126
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,119
Speaker 2: They brought him out of retirement to produce this album.

1127
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:32,920
That's incredible, I know.

1128
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: And you told me a funny story along with that.

1129
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: Well, so so they they hit him up. You know,

1130
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:41,039
he's he's stopped producing album.

1131
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:42,519
Speaker 1: He's a trillion dollars.

1132
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's done enough, right, And I'm

1133
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,239
wandering through the grocery store picking out groceries when you

1134
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,159
called me back on this one. I don't know how

1135
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:53,000
many people heard me tell you this story in the

1136
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:56,920
Walmart frozen food aisle. Okay, But they call him up

1137
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:59,519
and they're like, hey, we want you to produce. He's like, okay,

1138
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,119
you guys come out here. So they fly out to Switzerland, right,

1139
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:07,559
and they're at his place recording songs, and Chad said,

1140
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,559
we got about three songs done and then we had

1141
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:13,679
to go. So you know who mut Lang married, right?

1142
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: He married Shania Twain.

1143
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: Right, Shania Twain, whose real name is Eileen. It's not

1144
00:59:19,239 --> 00:59:23,719
Senanuel Clemens, as John Ray told this, which was the

1145
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,320
best joke I've ever heard. But no, her name is

1146
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,239
Eileen and there and they're like, there was some trouble

1147
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,519
with Eileen going on, right, So I called you up.

1148
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,960
I said, do you know when that dark Horse album

1149
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,519
came out? He said two thousand and eight? And I said,

1150
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,400
do you know what else happened in two thousand and eight?

1151
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,159
You know, I don't know they did something with mut Lang.

1152
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:41,719
I'm like May of two thousand and eight, it was

1153
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,639
announced that he and Shanaya Eileen, come on, Eileen, we're

1154
00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:48,760
having a little trouble because he was having a little

1155
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,559
bit of a relationship with her best friend, Yes, and

1156
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:55,440
she kicked him out of the house. Like he's there

1157
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,440
are three songs into this album, and he's like, how

1158
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,880
about we go to your house? And so they fly

1159
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:04,920
back across the Atlantic Ocean to go and he lived

1160
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,320
with them for like seven months to finish this album up.

1161
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:11,800
So this album was produced by Mutt Lang at the

1162
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,599
point that everything was falling apart with Eileen.

1163
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: Hi, guys, I'm calling you from my car which has

1164
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,719
a hammer through the windshield right now. That's hilarious.

1165
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: By the way. Shanaia nearly sixty years old, looking good,

1166
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:29,880
Still looking good.

1167
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:32,199
Speaker 1: By the way. The song reached number nine on the

1168
01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:35,599
Hot one hundred. This is another top ten hit. Next

1169
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:38,360
song on the album, there's a song called Burnet to

1170
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the Ground.

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Speaker 2: This is definitely one that found its way into the

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workout playlist. This is freaking awesome. You want to talk

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about vacuous lyrics, Yes, these are vacuous lyrics. Can I

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tell you about a song called girls girls, girls, Can

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I tell you about a song called pour some Sugar

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on Me? Can I tell you about a song called Panama?

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Or Hot for Teacher? Or slide it in any of

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these songs? But heck, do they kick some ass?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: They do, and so does this.

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Speaker 1: This song was featured on the Transformers Revenge of the

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01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:45,440
Fallen soundtrack. And if you ever went to a Kansas

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City Royals game, Colorado Rockies, Baltimore Orioles, Cincinnati Bengals, Dallas Cowboys,

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01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:53,400
Steetle Seahawks, New York Islander, Chicago Blackhawks, or saw the

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01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,159
movie Date Night, you heard this song.

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Speaker 2: So there are some people out there that still like Nicolbodd.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely there are. This was the third most played song

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at sporting events in the two thousand and nine twenty

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ten range. Can you name the number one one?

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Speaker 2: It's got to be Hurricane by Scorpions.

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01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:12,639
Speaker 1: It's we Will Rock You. Of course, I do like

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01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,119
what Buddy Joey Moi, who was the original producer said

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about the song. When he heard the first version of

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the song, he said, I don't know, guys, it doesn't

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make me want to pump my fist in the ear

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and crack open a beer. So they kept working on it.

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Finally Joey said, now I want to crack open a beer.

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Now I want to party with my buddies. Now I

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want to crank the song. And now it's doing all

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that I thought this song should do. Great song.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a rocker is yeah, it's this is a

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song to crack a beer and have fun with your

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buddies with one hundred percent right, hop down, turn it up. Banger. Okay,

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,679
So there are no less than eight singles that come

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off of this Star Cors album. Eat singles, eight singles.

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I told you man full of bangers. I just I'm

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not going to go into detail on these songs. I'm

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just going to give you, Hey, this made it onto

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,119
the workout playlist. These are songs that will pump you

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up and put more weight on the bar. All right, yeah, yeah,

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So number one is something in your Mouth and let

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me just let me just say this, let me just

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say this. When I started listening to these guys, I

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was like, if nobody else in the world can be

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01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:21,559
thankful for Nickelback, at least the strippers can be thankful

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01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,119
for Nickelback, because if it was not for Nickelback, they'd

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still be dancing to Motley Crue and def Leppard.

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Speaker 1: That's right, exactly right.

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01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:33,199
Speaker 2: And this this song Something in Your Mouth is definitely

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one of those songs.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,559
Speaker 2: So this song only made it up to ninety six

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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,679
on the Hot one hundred, but was number one on

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the mainstream rock charts. Okay, the other song, as I

1225
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said in the same vein, is called Shaken Hands. Yeah,

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I mean this is another great stripper song, of course,

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and you know what, the Shirley we Can Be Serious podcast,

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we love our stripper. So this one made it up

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to number eleven on the US Mainstream Rock and number

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twenty four on the Hot Rock and Alternative Songs. And

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so those are two amazing bangers off of this album

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full of bangers. But we gotta keep going or we'll

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,440
never get done. That's it for dark Horse. Did you

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01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,079
have another song you wanted to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just had another one that really struck my

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ear and I really enjoyed it, and so I wanted

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to play it for everybody, kind of cap it off.

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That song is a cover of Don Henley's Dirty Laundry.

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Speaker 3: Living News, Just me something stinting news when you lose.

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Speaker 2: So what a perfect song for this band. Cover number one,

1241
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,480
I love the song, one of my favorite Don Henley

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01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:52,599
songs from the eighties. Absolutely loved it. Number two. Song

1243
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,880
is very well about Nickelback, even though it's not kick

1244
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,760
them when up, kick them when they're down. Yep, everybody

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,000
loves their dirty lune.

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01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,519
Speaker 1: Yes that is.

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01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: This is almost like a dece So it's perfect that

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they're playing this song that almost defines the media reaction

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,719
to them as a band.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun.

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01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 6: I love it.

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01:05:22,159 --> 01:05:25,039
Speaker 1: By the way, just one little nugget on the original version,

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01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:27,679
Don Henley reached number three in the Hot one hundred.

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It was blocked by a man eater and the girl

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01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:33,039
is mine.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:40,039
Speaker 1: I love that song so d That wraps up our

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01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:43,519
coverage of Nickelback, and I will tell you that before

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we started this matchup between Nickelback and Creed, I had

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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,119
already spiked the football, I had done the post game

1261
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:52,079
press conference, and I had showered and was on my way. Okay,

1262
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,039
I am here to tell you that that was premature,

1263
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:58,840
and I'm anxious to tell you what my final judgment

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:05:59,960
is next week.

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Speaker 2: When you're saying Nickelback versus Creed, Nickelback versus Creed because

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,440
you're a huge Creed Creed fan.

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Speaker 1: I started off as a huge Creed fan. Yes, okay, yea,

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01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:10,239
I am a huge Creed fan.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So next week come back for that episode where

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we'll talk about whether Creed is worth the hate or not.

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I had their CDs, I enjoyed them, I know the stuff.

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01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:20,840
But you'll have to tune in next week to find

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01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,199
out whether they're deserving of all of the hate that

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01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:26,000
they get. As I said, they were the number one spot,

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nudged out Nickelback for the most hated band, so it'll

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01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:32,800
be fun to dive in and see whether they are

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01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,159
worth the hate or not. Thank you so much for this.

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We can't tell how much we appreciate your support. We

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see you next week.