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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. Look Michael Wolf is the perfect example of

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a guy who wants to play both sides of the

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street and pretend that it's journalism. He's a dude who

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shows up smelling like self promotion and stale book deals,

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then act shocked when people point out that he's collecting

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royalty checks off the suffering of people who are trafficked.

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This is a man who has made a career out

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of stirring up chaos and then pretending he's documenting it.

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A carnival barker dressed up like a newsman, a ring

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master who wants you to believe he's exposing the circus

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while he's the one selling popcorn at the gate. And

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the wild part is he genuinely doesn't see anything wrong

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with it. He thinks it's the hustle, he thinks it's

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the grind, But what he's really doing is exploiting a

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tragedy for profit and then acting insulted when people call

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him out. He spent years painting himself as a guy

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with the inside scoop, the fearless truth teller who's not

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afraid to take on Donald Trump, And sure he's made

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a mint trashing great, fantastic, But while he's cashing in

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on those hit pieces, behind the curtain, he's closing up

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to Jeffrey Epstein, giving him pr advice and whispering about

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strategy like some dime store of Machiavelli. Homie. That's not journalism.

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What that is is somebody who is an opportunist. And

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the kicker is that he tries to have it both ways,

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publicly torching Trump as if he's a moral crusader while

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privately positioning himself as Epstein's wise Conciglieri. You can't be

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both the avenging angel of accountability and the whispering advisor

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to a monster. That's not duality. That's duplicity dressed up

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as media savvy. And if Michael Wolfe really cared about

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the truth, he dumped every email, every note, every nugget

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of Epstein intel that he has just upload it. Let

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the public see it, let the survivor see it, let

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the investigator see it. But he won't. He holds it

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close because the longer he drags out the mystery, the

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more he profits. He's milking the suspense like a new

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Netflick's true crime showrunner. It's gross, and it gets grosser

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when you realize that he's not protecting sources or ensuring accuracy.

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He's protecting future revenue streams. He needs the fog, he

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needs the ambiguity, He needs the slow drip of pseudo

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revelations so he can keep feeding the content beast. It's

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exploitation disguised as responsible timing, and everybody can see through

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it except him. The man literally shaped an entire personal

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fortune by beating Trump like a pinata for years, And

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how that Epstein's emails have dropped his name in the mix.

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Suddenly it's all about context. Spare me. You don't get

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the cash checks off both sides of the scandal and

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then stand there pretending you're some kind of noble chronicler

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of history. It's a kind of silence that screams louder

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than words, because if you really have the moral backbone,

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he claims, he'd be front and center addressing the contradictions. Instead,

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he retreats into vague statements and intellectual fog. He knows

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what he's doing. He's dodging, deflecting, and hoping the new

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cycle moves on before anyone presses him too hard, and

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in my opinion, Wolf's biggest flaw isn't even the hypocrisy,

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it's the arrogance. He genuinely thinks he's the hero of

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all of this. He sees himself as a lone, brave

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storyteller cutting through the noise, when in reality, he's adding

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to the noise. He pours gasoline on a fire and

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then brags about knowing the fire department. It's the kind

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of delusion only money and media attention can give a man.

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He walks around with this self inflated sense of importance,

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as if the entire narrative hinges on his next revelation,

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when really nobody asked him to be a central figure.

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He inserted himself into the story and then convinced himself

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that he was indispensable, because, let's get real, if he

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actually had a treasure trove of useful, groundbreaking Epstein information,

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he dropped that shit like a grenade. Not for the

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public good, mind you, for the attention, for the clicks,

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for the book deals, But he doesn't, so instead he

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lingers on the sidelines, giving Epstein pr advice like a

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washed up consultant who can he can't believe no one

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asked him to the big game. He wants to be

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the puppet master, but ends up looking like the guy

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muttering strategies from the back row. And the whole time

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he keeps pretending this is some noble sacrifice when it's

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actually the cheapest form of self preservation imaginable. And look

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at the damages caused to the credibility of the investigation.

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When someone like Wolf sticks his finger in the pie,

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the whole thing starts to rot. People assume it's bias,

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slanted and tainted. He injects partisanship into a story that

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should never have had political flavoring. This is about survivors, predators,

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and a criminal enterprise that went on checked for decades,

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not Red versus Blue, not who can sell the most books,

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and once partisanship creeps in, the bad actors get exactly

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what they want chaos, doubt, and distraction. Wolf is the

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kind of guy who says he wants justice while unintentionally

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decapping the people actually fighting for it. His involvement muddies

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the water instead of clearing it. And the worst part,

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the enabl and protectors of Epstein love what Wolf does.

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They thrive on this kind of noise every time he

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leans into sensationalism instead of clarity. They get more cover,

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They get to say, see, it's all biased, it's all political,

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it's all noise, and Wolf hands them that shield like

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he's passing out party favors. They use him as a prop,

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a convenient example of media distortion, even though he thinks

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he's exposing them. It's like he's playing checkers while they're

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playing intergalactic chess. His blunders become their talking points, his

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bias becomes their camouflage, and he's too wrapped up in

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himself to even notice. The guy can't even pretend to

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engage with the survivors. He doesn't talk to him, He

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doesn't ask what they want, He doesn't consider what they think.

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Their voices don't matter because survivors don't generate the kind

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of headlines he likes. The misery they live through is

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in content. For him, it's leverage, it's a backdrop, it's

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background music. And that's the difference between an opportunist and

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a real journalist. One uses tragedy to build brand, the

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other uses a platform to amplify the voices that matter.

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Wolf predictably chose the brand. He always chooses the brand.

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Real journalists, actual ones spend time listening to survivors, checking documents,

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chasing leads, piecing together timelines, verifying claims. Wolf parachutes in

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when there's a bag of money and leaves a second

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the cameras turn away. He's a tourist and tragedy, and

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when the tour stops being profitable, he hops off the bus.

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There's no commitment, no consistency, no loyalty to truth, just

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sound bites, theatrics, and the ceaseless pursuit of attention. He

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treats journalism like a grab and go buffet. Take what

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looks profitable, leave everything that requires effort or empathy. And

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the sickest part for me is how he frames himself

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as the one pulling back the curtain on corruption, when

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in reality he's knee deep in it. You can't play

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advisor to Epstein and then pretend you're exposing Epstein. It's

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like consulting with the mob and then pitching a book

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about how brave you are when you break the silence.

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Give me a break, bro. The mental gymnastics required to

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hold both positions without collapsing from embarrassment is mind blowing. Well.

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Wolf pulls it off because he's convinced himself that his

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contradictions aren't contradictions, they're layers. He thinks he's complex, he's not.

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He's compromised. He knows knows that he's handing ammunition to

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every creep who wants this story to go away. Every

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time he plays KOI with what he knows. Every time,

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he frames this as some partisan chess match instead of

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a human nightmare. He gives the defenders and a SKA patch.

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He gives them a talking point. Look, the media is biased,

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and yes they're talking about him. They weaponize his nonsense

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to undermine real reporting. They elevate his worst instincts to

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discredit the truth. He becomes their poster boy without even

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realizing he's been drafted, and the legacy media eats it

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up because he's one of them, He's one of their own.

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He plays the game. He pretends to be righteous, they

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pretend to believe him, and everybody gets to cash out. Meanwhile,

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the truth gets buried under layers a branding and bullshit.

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The survivors get pushed to the bottom of the page,

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and the powerful state protected. It's the same old media cycle, outrage, debate, distraction, repeat,

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Wolf doesn't fix anything. He feeds the machine that broke it.

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And let's be honest, Bro's not hurting for money, not

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even close. He has a kind of bank account that

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lets you sit in a Manhattan apartment and lecture the

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world about morality without ever having to touch it yourself.

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He's got small level riches hoarded from years of tearing

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people apart and calling it journalism. And the saddest part

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is that he treats that wealth like validation, like proof

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that he must be right because he's rich. In reality,

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it's just proof that outrage is profitable and tragedy sells.

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And listen, nobody's asking this dude to be a saint.

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Nobody expects Michael Wolf to transform into Woodward overnight. But

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there's a line, a basic moral line, and he shoved

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three miles past it when he chose to advise Epstein

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while simultaneously positioning himself as some kind of moral authority

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on Trump. It's a kind of apocracy that would even

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make the most cynical Washington operator cringe. That's the problem

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with guys like him. They think that their own intellect

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exempts them from scrutiny. They think that because they speak

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in a certain cadence because they know which buzzwords the

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media likes. They're immune. They really believe the public won't

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notice the contradictions. But the public notices everything now. Audiences

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aren't passive anymore. They connect dots faster than the gatekeepers

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can hide them, and Wolf, my Friends, has a lot

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of dots. Wolf keeps insisting that he's not part of

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the story, but he is. He's woven into the fabric

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of it. He'll never say it out loud, but he

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knows damn well that dumping what he has, if he

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has anything real, would actually help the investigation. It would

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help the survivors, it would help the public cut through

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the fog. But it wouldn't help him. It wouldn't help

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the brand, so it doesn't happen. He keeps the vault

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locked while pretending it's for the greater good, when really

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it's for the greater wallet. Brodie's compass doesn't point, it

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points to whatever sells, So we're left with this, a

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loud guy with the microphone who's more interested in his

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next best seller than the actual accountability, pretending to be

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a truth teller while hiding in the truth. It's everything

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wrong with the legacy media wrapped up in one man,

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the ego, the opportunism, the manufactured morality. He's a walking

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billboard for why people don't trust journalists anymore. He's the

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reason public rolls her eyes when the word investigation gets

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thrown around. And I know I'm not alone when I

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say this, But this story Epstein, the emails, the survivors,

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the corruption. It deserves better than a carnival barker. It

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deserves better than someone who sees pain as a paycheck

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and scandal is a pr opportunity. It deserved honesty, it

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deserved urgency, It deserves someone who gave a damn. Instead,

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it got a guy who treats one of the darkest

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chapters of modern history like a marketing opportunity. That's what

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we needed. But instead it got Michael Wolfe. And that

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says everything. It says everything about him, everything about the

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legacy media, and everything about why so many people have

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lost faith in the so called truth tellers. And that's

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why they've stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt.

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When the story needed courage, it got opportunism. When the

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survivors needed amplification, they got silence. When justice needed clarity,

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it got chaos, and now that we all got the emails,

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Michael Wolfe has been exposed. All of the information that

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What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

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As the lawsuit between the US Virgin Islands and JP

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Morgan continues to make its way through court, we're finding

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out a lot more about the emails and the scheduling

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that was going on within Jeffrey Epstein's universe. Well, one

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of the people that was a bit chummier with Epstein

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than he has let on is Michael wolf And Michael

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Wolfe is an author who thought it would be a

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good idea to continue to palle around with Epstein after

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Epstein's conviction. So who is Michael wolf Well, let's talk

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about him real quick. Michael Wolfe is an American journalist

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as well as a columnist and contributor at USA Today,

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The Hollywood Reporter, and the UK edition of GQ. He

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has received two National Magazine Awards, a Mira Award, and

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has authored seven books, including burn Rate, about his own

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dot com company, and The Man who Owns the News,

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a biography of Rupert Murdoch. He co founded the news

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aggregation website newser and is a former editor of Badweek.

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On January fifth, twenty eighteen, Wolfe's book Fire and Fury

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Inside the Trump White House was published, containing unflattering descriptions

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of behavior by US President Donald Trump, chaotic interactions among

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the White House senior staff, and derogatory comments about the

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Trump family former White House Chief strategist Steve Bannon. The

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book quickly became a New York Times Number one bestseller

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and became the first of a trilogy about Trump and power,

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the other two books being Siege and Landslide. There was

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like a whole ass industry that popped up around Trump,

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all of these jerkoffs who wrote all of these stupid books,

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and all they're doing is rehashing the same stuff that

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the other knucklehead said before them. Here's an idea. If

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you're going to have some kind of investigative piece, it's

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a good idea to give us some new news and

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not just rehash the bs that you've been talking about

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or other people have been talking about ad nauseum that

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goes nowhere. And that's what all of these books pretty

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much were. Did any of them offer up anything worthwhile?

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Of course they didn't. It was the shiny object in

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the room though, and people knew, grifters knew that there

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was a whole ass cottage industry popping up around this.

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So all of these people were like, you know what,

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I'm gonna write a book. I have an inside source. Meanwhile,

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they're all just telling the same ass story, just repackaged.

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So today we have an article from The Daily Beast

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talking a little bit more about Michael Wolfe and how

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he conveniently omitted his own relationship with Jeffrey Epstein from

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that part of his book headline, Michael Wolfe is all

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over Jeffrey Epstein's date book. This article was authored by

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Lachlan Cartwright. Gossipy provocateur and author Michael Wolfe has long

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been accused of being too chummy with his highest profile subjects,

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which at one point included Jeffrey Epstein. New documents obtained

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and reviewed by Confider reveal the extent to which the

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pair spent time together even after Epstein was found guilty

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of sexually abusing a fourteen year old girl. Now, how

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can you ever justify hanging out with somebody who is

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a convicted sex offender? Like, maybe if it's your family member,

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and you guys are out like a barbecue or something.

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All right, Look, Uncle Jed's coming over, the fucking diddler.

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But all of these people, they willingly were hanging out

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with Epstein because let's be very clear, they were all

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looking to benefit in some sort of way riding on

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this dude's close taels, and if that meant closing their

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eyes and ignoring that girls were being harmed all around them,

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then that's what they were going to do. According to

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Newly on Earth's scheduling records and emails from the US

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Virgin Islands Attorney General Wolf and Epstein, who were close

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in late nineties and early two thousands, at one point

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partnering up to try and buy New York Magazine, had

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at least nine planned meetings between twenty twelve and twenty

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and fifteen. Harvey Weinstein was also involved in that planned

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purchase of New York Magazine, and the idea behind that

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was obviously for Epstein to continue to refurbish his image

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and to make it look like, with his own narratives

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coming out of his own paper, that he's just a

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guy that has been much maligned. All of these girls

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or liars Thankfully it never happened. Unfortunately, there's a bunch

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of jerkofs in the media like this clown, who have

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done nothing but run cover for Jeffrey Epstein for all

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of these years. These previously unreported meetups, which were not

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disclosed in Wolfe's most recent book, Too Famous, and its

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chapter title The Last Days of Jeffrey Epstein, provide a

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unique window into just how much the two socialized even

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after Epstein served jail in two thousand and eight and

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became a registered sex offender. Pretty convenient that he left

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his own palin around with Epstein out of the book. Huh, Yeah,

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you'll know what. We'll just we'll admit this and we'll

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make everybody else look bad. Meanwhile, it's not a big

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secret that these two were friends. So just be honest

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in your book and explain your friendship with this guy

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instead of just talking about how he's friends with everyone else.

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The first schedule hang was dated February sixteenth, twenty twelve,

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a breakfast in New York that listed both wolf Sell

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and email. Confider cannot verify whether the meeting took place,

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but confirmed the listed cell number and email belonged to

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wolf And while we can't confirm some of these meetings.

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My guess is that they took place. Do you really

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think that Epstein would just have them penned into his

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calendar if they weren't going to happen. Whatever else this

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guy was, he was somebody that was about his shit,

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somebody that wanted this whole enterprise to keep moving, and

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to do that, he needed to have people in his pocket.

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He needed to have people writing all kinds of BS

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stories about him, all kinds of puff pieces. So all

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of these people would come and hang out with them,

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break bread with them, and they'd catch something on the

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back end, whether it's money, a trip down to the island,

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or something else entirely. On July thirtieth, twenty thirteen, Wolf

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was listed as having a scheduled lunch with Epstein at

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twelve thirty pm in New York City. In early twenty fourteen,

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Wolf was slated for a January breakfast in the city

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with Epstein, as well as dinner where Woody Allen, his

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wife sun Yee Previn, and former JP Morgan executive Jess Day,

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among several others, were listed as attending, followed by two

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meetings in September and another lunch in October that year.

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By twenty fifteen, they had plans to meet in January

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for breakfast and on April eighth for a late afternoon appointment. Oh,

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a late afternoon appointment, is it? And it's so funny

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how all these people who were close to Epstein back

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in the day have tried to profit on the back

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of that relationship while not exposing just how close they were.

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While such engagements could ostensibly be characterized as source meetings

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for a reporter like Wolf, they are certainly curious considering

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the long running questions about their connections. New York Magazine

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notably killed Wolf's rehabby profile of Epstein in twenty nineteen

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over fact checking concerns, which were later alleged to include

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the author allowing Epstein to dictate the piece and field

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all fact related questions, according to Alex Yablin, the fact

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checker on the piece, and that is far too common

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these days. You have these journalists who trade their morality

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for access, and you see it time and time again.

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Look at what ABC did with the Amy Robots story

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when she had all of the details from Virginia Roberts,

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but instead of running that story, they killed it. That

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way they could keep their access to the royal family.

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And there's a lot of journalists that'll do that as well.

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They'll suspend their integrity to get the story as long

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as it's going to get them clicks or it's going

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to get them views. To hell with having any sort

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of integrity or any sort of morality. I'm just gonna

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say whatever to try and get clicks and try and

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secure that bag. And there's just way too much of

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that going on, way too many people that'll see whatever

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because they know it's going to tickle people's confirmation bias.

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And the goal is to play on people's emotions. The

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more emotional people are, the more invested they are, and

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the more willing they are to come out of their

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pocketbook to continue funding the grift. Wolf did not respond

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to Confider's multiple requests for comment about the purpose of

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their scheduled meetings or what was discussed. And while Wolfe's

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book includes the forty page chapter about Epstein largely centered

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on the convicted sex offenders relationship with Steve Bannon, he

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curiously made no mention of his own extensive association with Epstein,

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and Epstein was trying to get some tips from Steve

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Bannon as well. Don't forget that Steve Bannon was coaching

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him as far as the interview process, and things escalated

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to a point where allegedly there was a whole interview conducted.

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But I guess it's never going to see the light

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of day. However, Wolf has never been shy about sharing

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his thoughts on Epstein. Never been secretive about the girls,

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Wolfe told New York in two thousand and seven. At

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one point when his troubles began, he was talking to

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me and said, what can I say? I like young girls?

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I said, maybe you should say I like young women.

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Imagine that's your advice. Instead of saying, here's an idea,

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stop being a sick, disgusting diddler and go find a

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woman in your own age, he says, just change the language.

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And that's the real problem, folks. That's the problem with

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all of these so called elite and the gatekeepers in

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the media that protect them. You would think that somebody

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like Michael Wolf would find what Epstein did abhorrent and

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not want to associate with him and tell him something

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a little bit different. Besides, oh, just change the way

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you word that, repackage it a little bit better. I mean,

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that's your advice as opposed to writing an absolute hit

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piece on the guy. That's the advice you give him. Huh.

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And then you go and write a book with a

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forty page chapter about Ebstein where your tight relationship with

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the guy is conveniently left out. Huh. Well, I'm not

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surprised because guess what, folks, it's just par for the course,

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all right, everybody that's going to do it for this one.

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All of the information that goes with the episode can

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be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and

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welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. So Michael Wolfe,

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the author, has filed a lawsuit against Malania Trump, and

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he says that Malania Trump is attempting to intimidate him

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and to stop them from reporting on her ledged ties

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to Jeffrey Epstein. And now Michael Wolfe is taking it

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a step further, saying that he hopes that he's able

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to depose Malania Trump and Donald Trump when it comes

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to this issue. And look, this fire has been burning

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now since July. And at the center of this controversy

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is Michael Wolfe, the veteran author famous for torching political royalty,

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and now the man who filed a billion dollar lawsuit

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against her in New York, claiming that she tried to

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silence him with a billion dollar threat. Yeah billion with

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a bee. You could rebuild half of Miami for that

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kind of money, but apparently that's what it costs these

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days to keep a journalist quiet. Wolf says her team

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went nuclear after he suggested that Milanna and Trump once

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moved in Epstein's orbit, that maybe their paths weren't as

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distant as they'd like people to believe. Her lawyers naturally

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hit back with a vengeance, letters, warnings, demands for retractions,

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the whole arsenal of high society damage control. But instead

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of backing down, Wolf flip the script and suit her first.

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He wants discovery, meaning depositions, records, flight manifests, the kind

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of evidence that makes powerful people sweat under fluorescent lights,

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and look, let's be real, Wolf, no stranger to controversy.

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Bros made a career out of walking right up to

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the line between journalism and provocation, then moon walking over

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it for good measure. Dude's been called reckless, sin, sation, brilliant,

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and everything in between. But love him or hate him,

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one thing's for sure. He's not afraid of a fight,

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and in this case, he picked one with the family

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that practically trademarked the word litigation. That's like poking a

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hornet's nest just to see if it still stings. Now,

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of course, Milania's side calls it all false. In defamatory,

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they say Wolf is chasing cloud, that he's peddling solicious

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fiction for clicks. Maybe he is, But if this were

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really about shutting down lies, why make it a billion

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dollar spectacle? Because threats like that don't sound like damage control.

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They sound like deterrence. And history tells us when people

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start screaming about defamation in the Epstein orbit, it's usually

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because someone's getting a little too close to something uncomfortable.

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And the irony of it all. If the goal was

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to bury the story, threatening a billion dollar lawsuit against

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a guy who thrives on controversy is like pouring gasoline

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on a barbecue. Wolf'spin in this rodeo long enough to

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know the value of a headline, and Milanya's legal threats

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practically gift wrap them one. The moment those words billion

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dollar lawsuit hit the press, the story became unstoppable, because

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that's how this saga works. If he's on silence, on secrecy,

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on that sense that the truth is always a half

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a page away. Every time a new name gets pulled

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into it, the whole thing reignites. One minute, its bankers,

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the next it's princes, and before you know it, you're

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talking about former and current presidents. And every time it

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comes back to the same haunting question that's been hanging

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in the air since the day Epstein was found dead

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in a cell Who knew what and when? This article

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was published by NBC News and the headline author of

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Michael Wolfe sues Malania Trump over Jeffrey Epstein threat. The

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author of this article is Chloe Atkins and Dora Gregorian.

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Author Michael Wolfe has sued First Lady Malania Trump, charging

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that she threatened a one billion dollar legal action against

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him to stop him from reporting and writing about her

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alleged ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Miss Trump's claims are made

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for the sole purpose of harassing, intimidating, punishing, or otherwise

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maliciously inhibiting mister Wolfe's free exercise of speech, said the suit,

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which was filed Tuesday in New York Supreme Court in Manhattan.

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The filing includes an attachment a letter of Trump's attorney,

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Alexandro Brito, sent to Wolf, the author of Fire in Fury,

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last week, demanding that he retract and apologize for public

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comments he made linking his client to Epstein, the notorious

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sex offender, and that he make a monetary proposal to

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miss Trump for the damages that you have caused. And

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if you think that a guy like Michael wolf is

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going to just open up the bank account and start

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paying out settlements, you're crazy. He can manipulate all of

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this into a story, and that's what he's going to do.

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And look, I have a lot of questions about Michael

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Wolfe himself and about what his motivations are. I mean,

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you would think that if you have all this information

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that you say you have, that you say you've had

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four years, you'd release it, right, But it's always a

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drip with Michael wolf Oh, I have this, I'm gonna

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release it later, And then he just keeps dragging it

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out because he knows it's good for business, right. And

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then of course he'll drop a book or two and

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he'll have a bunch of salacious allegations in the book,

473
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and a lot of them are unverifiable. There's no doubt

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about it. And when we first started talking about mister

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wolf a few years ago, I said that I would

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take everything he has to say with a grain of salt,

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and I still feel that way. But does that mean

478
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that what he's saying is a bunch of bs? All

479
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:39,799
of it? Absolutely not. So I think it's worthy of discussion.

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But I'd be a liar if I told you that

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I thought that Michael Wolfe was some kind of arbiter

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of truth when it comes to Epstein. I don't believe

483
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that to be the case. I think that Michael wolf

484
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just knows that he could sell books, he can get clicks,

485
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and he can make some money with this story. I

486
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,400
think that's what it comes down to. But with this

487
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,279
lawsuit with Milania Trump, certainly interesting, right And if they

488
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do get to Discovery, boy, that would be exciting. Can

489
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you imagine what will come out in a discovery like that?

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What sort of nonsense all these people have been getting

491
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up to. And I'm not just talking about the Trumps,

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Michael wolf himself, because sometimes you think that you are

493
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going to have the upper hands when it comes to

494
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these depositions, and then it comes time for the deposition

495
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,200
and you find out something completely different. So is that

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what Michael Wolfe has in store for him? I guess

497
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we'll have to see. Trump has been aggressive in pushing

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back against what her lawyers describe as false reports linking

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her to Epstein, and her office said in a statement

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on Wednesday that she is proud to continue standing up

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to those who spread malicious and defamatory falsehoods as they

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00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,440
desperately try to get undeserved attention and money from their

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own lawful conduct. And look, if he's telling falsehoods, if

504
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he's not telling the truth, I'd sue him too. But remember,

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when you see somebody, you have to back it up.

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And that means depositions, that means going to court, that

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means discovery, that means all of that stuff probably going public.

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So if you have anything that you're embarrassed of, chances

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are you're going to try and avoid a deposition and

510
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certainly try and avoid discovery. And that's why you see

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Prince Andrew's bitch ass settle with Virginia when he did.

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The letter from Brito cited comments wolf made to the

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Deli Beasts this year in a story headline Malania Trump

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very involved in Epstein's scandal, as well as comments he

515
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made on a Deli Beasts podcast, And if you remember,

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he was saying that Milania Trump was introduced to Donald

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Trump by somebody who she says wasn't the person who

518
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introduced them. So Milania Trump has said that everything Michael

519
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:52,519
wolf is saying about her and the origin story of

520
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her meeting Donald Trump is defamatory. The website later issued

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a retraction and an apology. The full text of the

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Retractedbeast article is no longer available online instead of the

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publication said in an editor's note. Upon reflection, we have

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determined that the article did not meet our standards and

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has therefore been removed from our platforms. You know, you

526
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have to really be pushing the envelope if the Daily

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Beast is going to remove an article about Donald Trump,

528
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because boy, they love to stick it to him, right,

529
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So if they have something they feel like is going

530
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to be damaging, they're going to run it. So what

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does that say about the credibility of the reporting of

532
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,920
Michael Wolfe. Now you could look at it from a

533
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,119
different perspective, right and say, well, This is all about litigation.

534
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:45,759
They're trying to mitigate their exposure here by pulling this story.

535
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That way, they don't have to deal with a very,

536
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,400
very very litigous Trump family. So that's certainly one way

537
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,599
you could look at it. But of course it could

538
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,880
be spun that the story was a bunch of bs,

539
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and that's why it was pulled. I stand by your work,

540
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,000
and you stand by your reporting. You're not going to

541
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,319
retract something, right, look at the Wall Street Journal with

542
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,599
the fiftieth birthday card that was allegedly sent by Trump.

543
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,319
They're standing ten toes down on business when it comes

544
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,559
to that. So if you believe something is true, then

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00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:20,640
you're going to back it up. Wolf Suit says the

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00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,160
statements in the article were taken out of context, and

547
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,839
he maintained he had not to fame Trump. Trump has

548
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,119
not been accused of any wrongdoing connected to Epstein. Epstein

549
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,839
had been friends with Donald Trump in the nineties and

550
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the early two thousands, and look, there's no doubt that

551
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,200
they were homies. They most certainly were same parties, same

552
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,519
social circles, the whole thing, and there is no doubt

553
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,599
that they did have a falling out. That's not in dispute,

554
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,759
And for me, I think the biggest problem is the

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,799
cover up that we're seeing right now. You talked all

556
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:56,000
this nonsense about releasing files, being transparent, making sure the

557
00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:00,079
American people know what happened, only to come into office

558
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and clam right up like everybody else. So that's really

559
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,519
where my criticism's coming from. Don't bullshit me on the

560
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:08,960
campaign trail and then when you get into office do

561
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something completely different. I mean, it's one thing to say, look,

562
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we have to investigate further to see what's going on.

563
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,799
It's a whole less other thing to call it a

564
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:21,119
hoax and to just kill the investigation entirely. And that's

565
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why I think for Donald Trump, the cover up in

566
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200
his case when it comes to Ebstein, is worse than

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00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920
the crime. And that's all compounded by the promises that

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00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,039
were made on the campaign trail by Trump and people

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that are now part of his administration. Epstein died by

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suicide in a New York Jael cell in twenty nineteen,

571
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while he was awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges.

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His death sparked numerous conspiracy theories and vows during the

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twenty twenty four campaign from Donald Trump and his allies

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of increased transparency into Ebstein's case and any possible accomplices.

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And that's the big problem. Like I was just saying,

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you can't run around literally for years talking about this

577
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:03,559
one's involved and that one's involved. And Bill Clinton's going

578
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:05,599
to have some issues because he went to the island

579
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,960
only to show up and say, just kidding, there's nothing

580
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,000
to see here. We're just playing with you guys. That's

581
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,559
not gonna work for anybody. And look, I'll tell you

582
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,119
right now, if they released everything they had, every file

583
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,359
they had, I think that it would be better for

584
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160
them in the long run, even if it's embarrassing now.

585
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,480
But unfortunately, it's all about politics. It's all about optics,

586
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,759
and it's all about trying to continue to control the narrative.

587
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,559
It's not about justice. It's not about holding anybody to account.

588
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,200
And anybody telling you that's lying. And that goes for

589
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,480
Congress as well. Well. They're not trying to use this

590
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,720
as a political cudgel. Why isn't Matthew Menchell being called

591
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,960
or a Villa Fauna or a Krisher or any of

592
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,039
those other people. Ask yourself that wolf suit said that

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00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,920
he had accrued many hours of interviews of Jeffrey Epstein's

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00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,559
conducted over several years, and that the First Lady's legal

595
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:04,160
threats are also intended to shut down legitimate inquiry into

596
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,519
the Epstein matter, which the Trumps and their collaborators have

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00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:11,119
at every turn sought to impede and suppress. In a

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video on Wednesday on Instagram, Wolf said he hopes to

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00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,800
be able to depose the Trumps as part of his

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00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,280
legal action. To be perfectly honest, I'd like nothing better

601
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,079
than to get Donald Trump and Milanya Trump under oath

602
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,719
in front of a court reporter and actually find out

603
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,000
all of the details of their relationship with Epstein. He said, Well, look,

604
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,360
everybody would like to see that. Do you really think

605
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,039
it's going to happen. I highly doubt it, and that's

606
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,599
because it's way too risky a deposition, Really sitting under

607
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,679
oath talking about Epstein. That doesn't work out well for people,

608
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,199
and that's why you see so many people avoiding it.

609
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So we'll have to see what comes of this. But

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I have a hard time believing that this is going

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00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,559
to progress very far inside of the court. My guess

612
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,280
is that it's going to be dropped one way or

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00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,559
the other, some sort of settlement maybe, or maybe the

614
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,360
judge just says, look, there's no merit here and we're

615
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,239
going to toss it. So we'll keep an eye on things,

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and when we have some more information, we'll get it

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added to the catalog. All of the information that goes

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