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Speaker 1: special welcome back to the fifty five Karssee Morning Show.
Speaker 1: FOP President Ken Coob. We're representing the Cincinnate Police Department Union.
Speaker 1: Could you have you on the show? Ken, appreciate the
Speaker 1: time you're spending with us this morning.
Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got the word from Mayor Aftab Purvol
Speaker 1: and I've been sort of rhetorically asking the question the
Speaker 1: residents of the city of Cincinnati vote to become a
Speaker 1: sanctuary city back in early seventeen twenty seventeen, he said
Speaker 1: the city will not enforce federal immigration laws for those
Speaker 1: here illegally. Quote, there have been no ice raids in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati as of now, none despite the rumors and conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: but we are prepared if there is an ice rate
Speaker 1: in our community. There's nothing we can do to prevent
Speaker 1: that based on federal law, but there are things we
Speaker 1: can do to support the community and mitigate the damage
Speaker 1: from those raids, and we're working on that.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can.
Speaker 1: Explain what the hell he means, but he said, we
Speaker 1: are The Cincinnati Police Department has no role in federal
Speaker 1: immigration enforcement and Charmie McGuffey. I guess chimed in a
Speaker 1: similar light. Do you have any personal feeling about the
Speaker 1: duties of the Sinsint Police Department with respect to arresting
Speaker 1: the obviously criminal illegal immigrants that are in our community.
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean, we all take an oath of
Speaker 4: office when we get sworn in as police officers, and
Speaker 4: our oath is that we will enforce all federal, state,
Speaker 4: and local laws.
Speaker 2: And having a mayor saying that.
Speaker 4: We are not going to do this is just wrong
Speaker 4: and it's very misguided because if we decide that we're
Speaker 4: not going to help federal law enforcement, then it's violating our.
Speaker 2: Oath of office.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you came with loud and clear and
Speaker 1: very straightforward on that one. That's kind of my perception
Speaker 1: as well. And I don't know how much control the
Speaker 1: mayor has. I mean, he can say whatever he wants
Speaker 1: to say, but what goes on within the police department
Speaker 1: that seems to be the role of the chief of
Speaker 1: police and the hierarchy within the police department has three
Speaker 1: Thiji said anything with regard to how the Cincinnati Police
Speaker 1: Department will deal with ice and or cooperate or not
Speaker 1: with Ice agents.
Speaker 4: No, this far, we've been given you zero directives, and
Speaker 4: you know, I kind of treating this as status quo,
Speaker 4: which has been you know, any time that we have
Speaker 4: any kind of interaction with federal law enforcement, we help
Speaker 4: them because they're federal law enforcement officers.
Speaker 2: That's what we're expected to do.
Speaker 4: If we have Green Township call us and ask us
Speaker 4: for help, or Dellai Township, or you know, whatever department
Speaker 4: asks us for help, we help them. That's what we're
Speaker 4: sworn to do. We're sworn to uphold laws. And that's
Speaker 4: what the Cincide Police officers will be doing.
Speaker 1: And that's refreshing to hear. And you know that has
Speaker 1: been my understanding as well. I remember Jim Neil talking
Speaker 1: about cooperation among the various law enforcement agencies in the
Speaker 1: general region, and the cooperation was, you know, shared responsibilities
Speaker 1: and shared services and everyone played nicely together in the sandbox.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still the case with Charmie
Speaker 1: McGuffey as head of the sheriffs the apartment, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's nice to know you guys do play well together.
Speaker 1: But this is a two way street too, because the
Speaker 1: federal government helps Cincinnati law a CINCINNTI Police Department with
Speaker 1: you know, their investigations as well, don't they.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, there has to be cooperation among law
Speaker 4: enforcement agencies. We've done this for years.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I go back to my years when you know, I
Speaker 4: was on the street working in our fugitive unit and
Speaker 4: we would.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, every so often we'd have like the
Speaker 2: FBI would.
Speaker 4: Come in and you know, they're gonna they're gonna execute
Speaker 4: thirty different search warrants around Cincinnati, and they don't have
Speaker 4: the resources to do it all themselves, nor do they
Speaker 4: have the lay of the land.
Speaker 2: So what do they do.
Speaker 4: They call local law enforcement and ask them for assistance. So,
Speaker 4: you know, we would be up at three or four
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. We would meet with these teams.
Speaker 4: They would give us the addresses of places where they
Speaker 4: have search warrants for and we would go assist them,
Speaker 4: tell them that, you know, the most efficient route to
Speaker 4: get to an address, you know, if there was any
Speaker 4: concerns of neighborhoods, whatever else. We would give them all
Speaker 4: this intelligence and then we would go with them and
Speaker 4: serve these warrants. It's something that's been done for years,
Speaker 4: and you know, unfortunately this is just a highly politicized thing,
Speaker 4: and I just we have to do these things.
Speaker 2: This is what we're required by law to do.
Speaker 4: And to have americ come out and say, well, no,
Speaker 4: we're not going to help them.
Speaker 2: We don't have a choice in the matter.
Speaker 1: Well, and I appreciate how straightforward you are with that reality.
Speaker 1: And I guess more fundamentally, you know, eastwore an oath
Speaker 1: of office and as an officer of the law to
Speaker 1: you know, hold the constitution, protect and serve the community.
Speaker 1: The Trump administration presently is going after. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are vile people. These these crimes that you know, it's
Speaker 1: reported that many of them committed child rape, for example,
Speaker 1: is just horrific and inexcusable and probably one of the
Speaker 1: most heinous crimes that can cross my mind. But we
Speaker 1: as a community, like other residents who live here, citizens
Speaker 1: of the United States, if they get out of hand
Speaker 1: and they commit crimes, they're bad guys. That's why we
Speaker 1: arrest them and prosecute them to keep our communities safe.
Speaker 1: I mean, moving over into the illegal immigrant category, we're
Speaker 1: still talking about criminals here, don't we want to get
Speaker 1: them out of the Greater Cincinnati community.
Speaker 2: Ken, Well, I could say if one law enforcement does.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what the mayor's position on this is,
Speaker 4: but absolutely yeah, we have to protect our communities. And
Speaker 4: just because you're here illegally doesn't mean that you get
Speaker 4: a free pass to come here, break the law and
Speaker 4: stay here.
Speaker 2: It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Think about what you just said, Ken, that we're even
Speaker 1: having this conversation because there are some inelected capacity that
Speaker 1: believe because you are an illegal immigrant somehow you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be arrested and prosecuted or at least expelled for having
Speaker 1: committed crimes.
Speaker 2: It's this crazy, yeh, It's laughable that we're even having
Speaker 2: this conversation.
Speaker 1: I agree all day long. So where are we? I know,
Speaker 1: last time we talked can in terms of numbers of
Speaker 1: police officers. I know the problem hasn't been solved since
Speaker 1: our life conversation a week or so ago, but remind
Speaker 1: my listeners how many we should have in terms of
Speaker 1: officers and where we are presently, and also the fun
Speaker 1: fact of the number of people retiring.
Speaker 4: So we're currently at about nine hundred and twenty one.
Speaker 4: Although I just had an officer called me yesterday who
Speaker 4: went into our drop programs that I've retired last year
Speaker 4: stayed for another year, and she called me yesterday and said, listen, I'm.
Speaker 2: Done, done, I'm leaving. I've had enough. So we've lost
Speaker 2: I think two already this year in the month of January.
Speaker 4: We lost seventy two last year, but our compliments one
Speaker 4: thy fifty eight were at nine twenty one, so we're
Speaker 4: roughly one hundred and forty short. And I just don't
Speaker 4: see this year being any better. I think the staggering
Speaker 4: number is we had eighteen people that left that were
Speaker 4: not retirement eligible. Oh my eighteen, yes, oh much. That
Speaker 4: is a staggering number. And it just seems you seem
Speaker 4: things seem to just not be getting any better anytime
Speaker 4: soon at least well.
Speaker 1: And that's that's walking away from a sizeable post retirement salary.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not envious or I don't think it's
Speaker 1: wrong or anything. But if you're walking away from you
Speaker 1: know what is it could be three quarters of your
Speaker 1: pay or something like that, and you're quitting early you're
Speaker 1: not eligible for that. That is that's a statement and
Speaker 1: a half right there. If I could ask you about
Speaker 1: this most recent person who told you that they're just
Speaker 1: done and over with. Is there a a sort of
Speaker 1: a a trend or a reason that many of them
Speaker 1: are citing specifically for why they can't they can't take
Speaker 1: it anymore.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is just it just burnout.
Speaker 4: You know, when when you're short on a relief and
Speaker 4: you don't get a break from you know, the day
Speaker 4: to day work, and you know, they worked in one
Speaker 4: of the busiest districts here in the city, and when
Speaker 4: you're asked to go and respond to just radio run
Speaker 4: after radio run, and you know, just the violence that
Speaker 4: they're experiencing on a daily basis. People to just get
Speaker 4: burned out. You know, we don't have enough people, and
Speaker 4: I know the city is making an effort. You know,
Speaker 4: we've got a class in now of about forty people
Speaker 4: that would be graduating in May. We're gonna have another
Speaker 4: class in July, but we've got to do things to
Speaker 4: make this place more attractive. And having them here come
Speaker 4: out and say we're not helping a federal law enforcement
Speaker 4: agency that's not helping make this place more attractive, it's
Speaker 4: making it worse. And you know, we're going to see
Speaker 4: eventually what the fallout is going to be from that. Jeez.
Speaker 1: Well, prayers, love and support from my listening audience and
Speaker 1: me to the CINCINNTI Police officers. We certainly appreciate what
Speaker 1: you're doing and we have an understanding and for found understanding.
Speaker 1: Thanks to you, Ken Cover for bringing it to our
Speaker 1: attention of the problems that are facing the insant police department.
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. Thanks for coming on the program
Speaker 1: and in time with my listeners and me, and well,
Speaker 1: best love to all the officers in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Sure, thank Brian. Thanks, I appreciate the support.
Speaker 1: Anytime, my friend, anytime, Ken Kober stick around. Folks at
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